Don't Skimp Out On Your Motherboard - How Much to Spend / What to Buy

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[@eberdelahoya2781]

Motherboards is the “trickiest” thing to buy for me at least, because I don’t often know at what point I am under/over buying. I try to follow your rule of spending about half the price of the CPU and seems to work. Right now I have a x370 pro gaming carbon I purchased when I built my 1700x. I installed a 3700x couple weeks ago and seems to work fine. Although Idk if a x370 was enough or too little for 3700x

[@ByteSizeTech]

It is just fine, we have a 3700x on a x370 at home, works like a champ

[@twitchmania7614]

@@Pietro395 of course its okay. Dont over think it.if its got all the features you want and its in your budget, then go for it.

[@bluemojos]

First of all, you have to settle on a feature set that makes sense to your personal needs. Once you've found that motherboard that ticks all of the boxes, so to speak, be sure to buy that one and not the cheaper one that sacrifices any of the features that you need.

[@diosyntaxa]

I agree. I didn't end up sacrificing anything meaningful to me, maybe something that has a bit more coolness factor to it, but nothing truly meaningful.

[@ronaldhighlen1041]

I agree completely on this I personally will not spend an extra penny on WiFi for my desktop (wires are more stable for gaming). Same goes for RGB. I don't understand the hole glass case fad just give me a well laid out case with good cooling with a metal side panel.

[@CinderFall96]

I've had to buy either a b550 motherboard or x570 because I wanted wifi 6 onboard, and went with the Asus rog strix-e board. Personally doesn't make a difference if I go with wifi or wired because I do more workstation projects than gaming.

[@romesdoom]

I rebuild my PC every 6 or so years, because that's usually where you see big leaps in performance worth the cost of fully upgrading a system, and I change out the GPU every 4 or so. This year, I built my first AMD system because the 3900x was too good to pass up. I paired that with a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master board for $350. I know it's a bit overkill, but the quality just seemed to be there to last for years. Also changed over to a single 2TB nvme PCI-E 4 drive, the Sabrent Rocket 4.0. That drive cost more than the board haha. Kept my RTX 2080 as 2018 was my 4 year GPU refresh date.

[@progenji6407]

same although my upgrade cycle is 5 years, next january is my next upgrade, going from a ryzen 7 1700 with some cheap shitty b450 board and an RX480 to a next gen ryzen 9, RTX 3080, 32GB ram, 2TB NVMe storage and a Lian Li O11. it's gonna be one hell of an upgrade considering how bad my RX 480 is doing rn lol.

[@JRCxyz]

@@progenji6407 How did you spend on your last setup and how much do you expect to spend on the upgrade? (If you've got everything set, a part picker list would be great.)

[@progenji6407]

@@JRCxyz I am just about finished, with an rtx 2060 ko as temporary gpu it comes to a total of around 2.5k. I unfortunately dont have the pcpartpickers list anymore and i'm afraid it wouldn't do you much good, a bunch of parts got changed during ordering because of everythings shitty availability

[@Moriningland]

I went with that same MOBO too. I was gonna get the pro WiFi but I spend the extra for the money due to the extra m.2 drive and the sound. So glad I did because it fees so premium and the attached IO shield is such a nice touch. I the mobo is the hardest thing to change so I might as well go all out

[@ReaperX7]

When I researched my own system build, I settled on the Ryzen 7 3700X and ASRock X570 Steel Legend WiFi AX for a few reasons. 1. It had plenty of features that scaled well with the CPU I chose, 2. The motherboard wasn't skimping out on any features that would have prevented my CPU from going all out, and 3. The reviews off the motherboard were generally favorable to a system that would stand up against some usage. I didn't go for the Phantom Gaming X because realistically, it was just too expensive for a board that had nearly identical features to the Steel Legend, with some sacrifices that were negligible and wouldn't undercut the performance to value ratio. It was about a $250-275 motherboard, and honestly, it's performed well and supported everything admirably. You don't have to get the most expensive to get good stuff, but it does prove, spending a little more, will net you a little extra. Now I could have compromised with say an X570 Pro4 but honestly, at what expense and cost in the long run? I could have also gone with a B550, but again, to what expense and cost in the long run? Sometimes, you do get what you pay for, and you should draw the line somewhere.

[@YerdaHD]

Got the X570 Tomohawk WIFI to go with my 5600x, was initially going to go for the B550 Tomohawk but the X570 was only £25 more and I figured it was worth it for the added benefits

[@thecatdaddy1981]

I consulted a friend on his upgrade from an old H97 + i5-4690K to a B560 + i5-10400, he initially got the cheapest ASRock B560 board and it was unable to run a kit of b-die ram at XMP (3200 CL14-14-14-34). Even afterwards with lowered clocks and loosened timings it was giving errors in memtest. Then I find out cheap ASRock is general is bad with memory on recent intel platforms, he returned it and spent a little more on a B560 Aorus Pro, now XMP works with 0 errors. Really can't go wrong spending closer to the 200 dollar range vs the 100 range for a motherboard.

[@gunslinga7077]

This is on point . I gave my pre built to my brother just recently and he’s having WiFi problems . Been using a usb network adapter but it has a WiFi card and antenna hooked up but dousnt work without the usb adapter . not sure if it’s the card in there ir wats going on and he’s also having problems with a turtle beach headset he got he can get audio through it but can’t talk to anyone in game . I remember my Astros worked just fine on there not sure why he’s having issues only thing I can think is the mobo and that would explain also why he’s having WiFi issues . Anyways I’m building a new pc rn going with an asus tuf b550 plus WiFi and I’m stoked for the future proof of less hassle lol

[@ibizenco]

Hey, I (also) still have my i5-2500K, on an MSI "P67A-GD65" motherboard, with a RadeonHD 6870. It was the first computer I assembled myself. I had an R5 1600 on my ASUS "Prime X370-A" motherboard. I replaced it with a R7 3700X (two more cores than the 3600 - who knows what the future may bring?) after a BIOS update. It works fine, knock on wood. The 16 GB HyperX RGB RAM finally runs at 3200 MHz too, instead of 2666 MHz (with DOCP enabled). Instead of letting my R5 1600 collect dust (or selling it), I built a new computer for it just 3 days ago: with an ASRock "B450M-Pro4" motherboard, which I already own with a R3 3200G. I am having way too many computers :-)

[@Kevangelo14]

I think it makes more sense to overbuy a bit in motherboard. I mean, if you overbuy a board, it's easier to just pair it with a better cpu than it is with a high end cpu and replace the board.

[@Mizra-dq3lj]

This exactly, for my brother's PC we bought a gigabyte b450m-ds3h and I regret getting it every single day We could've got a b450 aorus m for $20 more and the extra features and quality of life are totally worth it, the layout and placement of sata ports, fan headers, etc on the DS3H are horrendous, the ones on the Aorus are so much much better yet the vrm is the same, funny

[@skerlone]

b450m aorus has a 4 phase vrm and a vrm radiator on 3 of them. I ordered a b450m s2h the one with only 2 dimm slots but then I found a b450 gaming x second hand at good price and cancelled the order. there are very few good b450 boards they all have 4 phase vrm. now I have a b550m aorus pro

[@rushdown3031]

I have this motherboard for my junker PC running a 2200G.. it's a pretty awful board 100%

[@Endrikson_Hallulli]

I have that board too bro,im looking to change it with an asrock b450 gaming k4 because i want better vrm and 2 m.2 slots

[@rushdown3031]

@@Endrikson_Hallulli The upgrade will be well worth it bro!

[@miniweeddeerz1820]

@@Endrikson_Hallulli just get asrock pro4

[@Vaxtin]

I made that 'mistake' on my first PC build. I didn't want spend too much money, or those who got a part for me, for the hardware in 2016. I ended up with a B150 mobo, 8 GB 2133 Ram, i5-6600 and a GTX 960 4G. No overclocking, no real upgrade path, no future. However Ryzen was in my future instead and I'm happy I moved over to their AM4 platform.

[@rangersmith4652]

One thing that motherboard shoppers often overlook is applicability/use case details, in particular, fan headers. Cheap boards often provide just two chassis fan headers, and they always seem to be in a silly place on the board. Splitters, hubs, and controllers can of course be employed, but they all add complexity needlessly. Make sure the board you select has enough headers and that their placement is sensible.

[@angry_zergling]

Real good point on the it's better to err on the side of over-buying than under-buying. The difference between the mid-range motherboard/GPU/CPU and the high end one (not highest end but crossing that line from bestest mid-range to most affordable high-end) is generally, what, $50-$200 depending on what's going on? I had my heart set on building a new computer with a 3070 RTX as the heart of the system. But now I'm thinking maybe a 3080 RTX might be the best bet. Maybe in a few months I'll catch the 4K bug and I'll spend the next 2-3 years (the time between buying new gaming pcs) languishing that I should have gone with the 3080.

[@twistedpixel2558]

I'm actually pretty sure my mobo is the most expensive part of my built. I don't build a new rig very often so I get the mobo that gives me the most options in the future.

[@IAMLEGIT2323]

Honestly gpu should probably be the most expensive part

[@Kitten_Stomper]

@@IAMLEGIT2323 depends. In my case, I do 60fps gaming on a 4k TV. Someone who wants 200+fps at 1080p medium settings might spend more on the CPU and just get a fast 4gb GPU.

[@OutlawNix]

I flat out 100% agree with "Don't Skimp Out On Your Motherboard". All ways buy a good quality motherboard from a brand name you can trust. You don't have to buy the top shelf motherboard but just don't buy that back alley special. That the type of thing that can bite you on the butt and give you more trouble then it's worth. Another piece of hardware you don't want to skimp out on is the power supply. All ways buy a good quality power supply from a brand name you can trust. You want a power supply that can deliver stable voltage while under load for multiple years.

[@SuperHaginator]

Love ITX. Buyed a B550i strix... then saw this 7 min vid ... now I have A Crosshair VIII impact. Never been more satisfied. Same goes with the 32gb ram!

[@realnamesnotgiven6193]

I made a premium PC up to my specific spec. Going from a Q6000+ -> amd A8 6400-> Ryzen R7 1700. Huge difference.

[@GameplayzOfficial]

I thought of that when I bought my 3800x, I got a TUF x570 mobo, and maybe the PCI gen4 can help with the newer graphic cards.

[@F.A.--]

109.99 dlls MSI B550M and using 209.09dlls Ryzen 5 3600x .I did it because I wanted to upgrade, I used to have ddr3 ram and an i5 Haswell cpu. I was just looking for a cheap motherboard and a more or less good cpu. I think I was lucky to find those prices. From now on I wil take your advice in consideration , spending half the price of the CPU in a Motherboard.

[@jimimaru]

Im somewhere in between balance vs performance and "future proofing". The way I see it, you could buy a mobo that is just enough for your cpu and then upgrade your mobo later when its time to upgrade the cpu. But in the end you would have bought 2 motherboards instead of 1 if you had just spend a little more on a board that could handle a few upgrades thus ending up costing less in the long run. At the same time you dont want to go too overkill because there will sooner or later come out new components that "forces" you to upgrade (ddr3 to 4 comes to mind, or pci4 slots for new gen gpus for example). Same principle with any other component really. Stay in the middleground, with something that will last a decent while but dont "future proof" more than max 5 years.

[@dahacksterkent8169]

i like expensive boards only because i think they will last longer with the least amount of issues.. And most are designed to work out of spec. (overclocking) ... 2015 i bought a ASROCK OC Formula Z170m with a 6700k.. and im glad i did.. i now have a 8700k in it... and yes its a z170.... works perfect.. no issues.. and with a few tweaks i could prob put a 9900k in it..

[@rushdown3031]

paired my 9900k with a AORUS Pro Wifi, previously I had it on a cheapo z370 board.. wouldn't go above 4.9 Allcore @ 1.4v, now it's @ 5.0 allcore with 1.315v's.. 100% worth the extra cash.

[@Joeeetato]

Yeah same situation here I plan to upgrade to that motherboard

[@rushdown3031]

@@Joeeetato Oh it's worth the investment! Loved every moment of owning the better board.. I'll never cheap out again.. Lesson learned! :D

[@jouniosmala9921]

In may I got, 3900x with "high tier" B450 board. I hate noise and I wanted to avoid chipset fan. My goal wasn't to build, best PC for 5 years. My goal was to build a work/gaming machine that in good situation would be replaced in 2 years, but if things go side ways wouldn't hurt to keep for very long time. Based on reviews of the power delivery it seemed quite reliable board which is more important for work computer than bling. I would never get below 100$ board anymore, I couple of those have failed withing family right out of warranty . Now that I know better, I would say I would never go for cheapest boards for given Chipset, as those are probably going to cheap out on components that are required for reliability.

[@vernonhampton6973]

I guess I'm the oddball. Years ago, I got an Asus X370-i Gaming and put a, R5 1600 on it. To this day, I STILL have that X370-i Gaming with that same R5 1600. I like the features and ports on the motherboards, as that's more useful to me. And more than likely, I'm going to get an X570-i for an R5 3600 (or perhaps 5600 after today) for the same reason. I'm not an overclocker nor a content creator, but as long as I can play games and do some CAD design work (my principle form of employment) - if it works, it works...

[@captainfatbat9557]

I built a 3600 + rtx 2060 system at the start of this year with a very cheap asus prime b450m mobo. I was just hyped about playing COD Warzone, and my old laptop was just too old to play it. After spending all this much I rarely play Warzone (facepalm). Now my 1000$+ PC is just collecting dust and usually used for youtube. I was previously planning to upgrade to a MSI b550m mobo as my rtx card is msi, and really wanted my GPU and CPU brand to match (Was also looking for a msi case, but they were too meh). Now I really don't regret going for a cheaper mobo. Its getting the work done without any issues.

[@DrearierSpider1]

Be sure to check fan headers. My Gigabyte Aorus Elite X570 is a great board overall, but it only has 2 system fan headers (and 2 CPU fan headers, which is typical). It's not a big deal for me, since my Cooler Master H500 case only needs the two, but it could be an annoyance for some. It's one of those things most people forget to check.

[@Makr0ss]

Or having a case with an usb-c in the front panel but a motherboard without a header for it

[@josephjohnson6626]

I want my motherboard to work and be stable.

[@KTSpeedruns]

The ROG Strix B550-F is actually what I just put in the machine I'm using to type this. It's been a dream. It's like I say all the time: motherboards are more about feature-sets, not CPU or GPU performance.

[@HontTV]

You guys are both so cute, i love this channel!

[@BearfootBob]

yeah they are

[@hansbehrends438]

SO, building a PC in late November/early December and parts are scarce/overprized because demand is high Decided on Intel i5 10400, but I don't like 2666 MHz on the non-Z boards, so Z490 it is Faced with the decision to buy cheapo Z490 or nice VRM/construction quality but expensive, I chose nice because it's what Papa Tech would have wanted me to do

[@mihapeterca7940]

I have a x470 board and a R5 2600 on it ... i was waiting for the 5series for the upgrade to a 12c/24t chip So would you recommmend 5900x on a Prime X470 PRO from Asus or should i sell it?

[@cyberskull9324]

Agreed... i spend 165 eur board (MSI z490 tomahawk) with a 260 eur processor, i5 10600k

[@Markperry123]

Ya like you said and I say you don't need the most expensive thing if you don't have a 4k tv I have 1080p 3d tv. Funny enough the second motherboard driver he one with wifi because it has Bluetooth so you can use your Xbox controller. Also researched till my head poped so I saved money on grafic card whent with ryzen 3400g r9 fury on board I also in your other vid took your advice before even seeing it by going the 32gb route got 4x8gb ram gskill 3600mhz cl16-18-18-16 witch I think it means it can change the cl

[@therealisticgooner8267]

My son wants to move into Pc gaming from consoles so for his 14th birthday he asked if he could build his first PC ! His budget ( his money ) was around £800-£1000 ( $1000-$1300) which was for everything except a monitor. Of course dad being dad I had to have my ‘ input ‘ ( I should point out I know next to nothing about any type of pc ) after educating myself via KZbin during lockdown ! So this is our component list thus far .... GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO ATX Motherboard Ryzen 5 3600 CPU Corsair TX-M Series 650 Watt 80 Plus Gold Certified PSU MSI MAG FORGE 100M Mid Tower CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600 ASUS ROG Strix Western Digital WDS500G2B0B WD Blue 3D NAND Internal SSD M.2 SATA, 500 GB A 2TB external SSD card he stores his console games on . We are thinking about these as GPUs GeForce RTX 2070 Super OC EVO Edition 8 GB GDDR6 ( his choice ) Or Sapphire 11293-03-40G Radeon NITRO+ Rx 5700 Xt 8GB GDDR6 ( my choice) for slightly less $/£ But given the announcement of third gen GPUs will be getting released in September hopefully, I’m advising him to hold fire on buying a GPU at the mo . The MB and PSU / CPU where bought with upgrades in mind in three or four yrs when he starts college but I’m now wondering is the CPU good enough for a third gen 3070 GPU , given all the chat about the improvements they bring ! Any thoughts would be welcomed on the above component list , thks .

[@Neftoodles]

R5 3600 is good with a 2080ti and the 3070 will have similar performance which should be good. If you plan on doing the 3080 or 3090 we still don't know and have to wait but I would say the 3080 would be fine unless you are playing in 1080p

[@Herbfedlion]

I'm putting together a build with a b550 msi board and a Ryzen 5 (3600). I have yet to buy the GPU since the new 30 series cards are about to come out but I kinda feel like I should of went better with the CPU but initially this build started off modest but now I'm thinking of throwing 32gb ram and upgrading the cpu towards the end of the year. Do you think this Ryzen 5 is a good match for this board?

[@25Patman]

You used to try to match the prices, like 200 for a board, 200 for a processor, 200 for a graphics card. These days, thats all f'd up.....

[@harryofficial3743]

this channel is really unique really entertaining

[@diosyntaxa]

So I got an MSI x570-a Pro motherboard for my Ryzen 5 3600 CPU. What ultimately led me to buy that motherboard instead of the ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS I was looking at was the simple fact that the ASUS one was 2500 SEK while the MSI one was about 2100 SEK AND they had an open but complete box of it leading to a further decrease in cost to about 1700 SEK leading to what amounts to almost 90 USD less. But anyway, the motherboard I got still cost about the same as the CPU (YMMW but this is in Sweden) but I made the choice of going for the x570 since it has PCIe 4.0 and I can put a Zen 3 CPU on it later if I feel like it. In a way I feel like I skimped on the motherboard, as I usually get something from ASUS or GB and with a few more features, but I also know I did pay a bit more for a slightly more basic card due to the X570 chipset so yeah :) It can overclock if I want, but nah, I'll just upgrade when I see a Zen 3 I like and can afford :) Oh, and the PSU was about 12% of the cost of the build, well 12% of everything except GPU because I went with what I had in my old one as a new one would add about 50% to the cost, at least :p Will get a newer one later when I can afford it haha. The PSU is just a 550W one, but it's a Seasonic FOCUS GX which is a nice one. IF, a big if, I end up getting anything really hungry as a GPU, which is doubtful since I'd need to get at least a 3080 to top the consumption of my current card and that just isn't happening :) Do note that Ryzen 5 3600 is about 235-240 USD in Sweden so yeah

[@ShomyKajge]

The issue with the 2500k was that you could change the CPU but then the Intel policy went on that all second parts were end of line (i7s) and you couldn't get cheap CPU NEVER. Even until 8th gen and it will keep up with the 10th gen but at least you have up to 8 cores that are not end of the line... And z69 mentality was like oooohhh this will be like hte lga 775, but it was not.

[@Markperry123]

I did get the better on can't wait too see the RGB

[@fahad5177]

hi tech nice video as usual I want to ask you I want to build a new pc for gaming and gaming only is it necessary to buy a MB that has gaming on the name or not? because I found that it's similarly priced as a better MB but the better one doesn't have gaming on the name thank you

[@letni9506]

I'm with you on the gfx card argument but I don't personally find I get my monies worth out of expensive boards. And they are soon outdated. If I'd payed big money for a b350 I'd now be sobbing 😀

[@deezysan]

I recently bought Asus x570 Rog Strix E Gaming for $95 at Micro Center :)))

[@lukastieke7310]

How????

[@Jupa]

@@lukastieke7310 chatting the breeze dude

[@threecats8219]

I might have made that mistake myself. I have Asus Tuf Z370 with an 8700K. I figured just drop a 9900K in it, to save hassle. Two problems have come up though. 1. It's not an enthusiast board so only has what's called a four-phase CPU power supply. Am not sure it will even run a 9900K at full clocks. I think it will, but it's unlikely to overclock a 9900K. 2. I recently discovered that this type of CPU four-phase power delivery may not work how I want. With the 8700K at full clocks, with a single core at 4.7GHz etc, it pulls 135W. The 9900K will pull way more. Also though if the CPU hits 77'C in e.g. Prime 95, it will power throttle the CPU to 95W. No other throttle kicks in, like VRM, temp, etc, just power throttle. It means I will have to pay a lot for a 9900K. Plus it might throttle unless I can fandangle the power throttle in the BIOS. The throttle will however drop the clock speed. In other words, if I can't work around it, a 9900K is money down the drain. On top of that a 9900K is not a good buy right now,. Luckily my 8700K is still powering on, and there is delidding and OC to do yet. Will have to delid for 8700K OC temps. (9900K delidding is a nightmare and I would not even bother.) Might be best to wait and upgrade, or howe to get lucky with 9900K temps.

[@lairddavid]

I ended up with an MSi X570 Ace for the 3900X @ launch. Great but probably overkill.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Yes, but it is a nice board... :)

[@lairddavid]

@@ByteSizeTech also just got the MSi MAG X570 TOMAHAWK to upgrade an X370 (which I'm gifting to my Father-In-Law) with a 2400G I no longer use. Hopefully this will be good enough for PGA Tour 2K21 🤞🏼

[@Lexiforlifeacm]

Do you think a 250€ motherboard is good for a 10700K 400€ (this was last year summer)

[@ElladanKenet]

It's also worth considering that, while you might not care about all the features today, maybe you will in a year or two. I mean, who doesn't like USB slots? You're gonna need several. Mouse, keyboard, headphones, that's three immediately. Having at least two PCI-e slots is also nice, same with m.2. My board has at least two m.2 slots, and they're ready to be used when I upgrade my drives.

[@ElladanKenet]

Hello from the future! Really glad I had those extra m.2 drives because, as suspected, a time came when I was ready to upgrade! I realized earlier last month that the warranty on my harddrive went out. Uh oh. No biggie, right? Well, on my last two computers, guess which part failed first? You guessed it, the harddrive. I'm not even full on my 4tb drive, and it is statistically likely I will lose the drive before I fill it, at the rate I've been filling it over two years. So with black Friday, I decided to go big. I bought two SN 850Xs from WD, a 1tb to replace my WD Blue 500g SATA ssd, and a 2tb to replace my 4tb Seagate 7200 rpm HDD. Prepare for warp drive!

[@rjbee8533]

Not sure if you could classified as overclocking but I know my ASRock that I spent $200 on runs my locked i7 on all core Turbo all the time 10700f at 125w and today I got it up to 200w on a 65w cpu haha ftw

[@starsnstrife]

It's not about cheap or expensive. It's about buying what you need.

[@andrevj6644]

Please If you have time reply. I have a b550 motherboard with a Ryzen 3 3100 and a Rtx 2060 super. I Couldn't buy a Ryzen 5 3600 but wanted 8gb of Vram and DLSS so that the Graphics card will last longer. I Bought the Ryzen 3 3100 Becuase I knew The motherboard needed a bios update to get b550 ready for 5000 series and I am saving for a Ryzen 9 5900. The games I play is new games like Cyberpunk and other AAA games at 1080p 60fps high. But I also play old games like first tomb raider Games and assassins creed games. Also some racing games like F1 2018. Was the Ryzen 3 3100 a good idea since I just wanted to use it to start using pc and a ok CPU till I can afford the Ryzen 9 5900. btw 768p -900p at medium 50 fps is the lowest I will go till upgrading my graphics card.

[@Mustanggt505]

I have a Ryzen 7 3700x on an Asrock b550m pro4 I don't really overclock or anything I found that the memory support is limited since b550 is so new but it's solid otherwise

[@morgorth3242]

i prefer my board with posible maxium futures like more pci-e slits. sata ports. usb 3.0 ports ect

[@latlanticcityphil]

What about MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk $225 dollar Motherboard has the power as the God like Motherboard that cost $700 dollars for 3950x or 3900x which I want up grade from the 3600x

[@just_cuz_un9663]

what would be a good motherboard (highest price 250) for a ryzen 7 3700x

[@phillipzan2005]

So I get what tech deals is saying. I bought a vega 56 which is decent for 1080p gaming. But I should of just waited and got a vega 64 or a 1080 at the time. I would of been way happier in the end.

[@RAGASPH1NXOM3GA]

X570 tomahawk is awesome. N affordable. My mind is rooting for x570 aorus master (more expensive). I m jus gonna game. Don know overclock xD. Ur thumb rule is a good rule. Ty. Tomahawk it is

[@io5362]

just so adorable reaction of these peoples XD

[@thelistener4101]

yep, they're right!

[@ramtin-s8722]

I like these short to the point videos

[@craig_sez8534]

Im lost in a mobo..Got a gold 850w pwr supply..1tb 860 ssd,just grabbed some ripjaw 3200 cl14 ram and a i5 10600k unlocked cpu...I dont mind spending a lil extra on a well amoured,vented,over clockable,lotsa options for later kinda oard..BUT im so lost...

[@jeantechnoir7702]

I would just buy a decent X570, it's more future proof, has Gen 4 lanes independent of the CPU lanes, the difference in price makes B550 irrelevant at least here in Peru, compatibility with Ryzen 3000 and Ryzen 2000 and ultimately X570 motherboards just look awesome.

[@kerenton5897]

I bought a crap motherboard. Now I want RGB and other stuff. It has no 5v rgb header and only 1 m2 slot. I have to wait until a whole new cpu+mobo combo... I know exactly what you are talking about.

[@DiesMemoria]

Actually, makes sense. I come to this channel only for pricing insights.

[@cryora]

Is it worth putting RGB on a budget - midrange PC build (~$800 tower +/- $150).

[@cryora]

@ja nee Streamers like them because it gives them something to show off. It can also be a way to attract a partner or justify an expensive purchase to computer illiterate parents by "showing" them that the PC is high end.

[@nickgames1892]

I mean. You can get 2 led strips for 10 bucks if you want it that bad.

[@cryora]

@@nickgames1892 Yeah it's for visual appeal. You could literally put it on a case, motherboard, and PSU without any CPU or graphics card, and as long as the case as a window, you can make it look really nice, but the computer itself won't be usable. But at least you can use the "wanna come over and see my PC case" pickup line at the bar. This is where dummy RGB memory comes in

[@harshavardhansahoo]

Meanwhile, me using a motherboard more expensive than my CPU...

[@lonniemurray4742]

"your motherboard should cost half of your CPU" Tech would hate that I'm using an $85 1600 AF with a Crosshair VII Hero

[@dangdiggity9916]

i always aim to keep my cpu for 6+ years, currently running my current one for 7.5. tho im looking to upgrade but everything out rn seems half good and i wouldnt be pleased wiht them in 4-5 years. and i always go for "overpriced" motherboard tho i only grab em on a deal! like right now i could get a z490 maximus XII hero for 30 bucks less than an asus z490 strix, tho im not getting it, im sure tempted to, but ill wait til intel has pcie gen 4. or amd straight up beats intel. im also picky on my rear io, i need 4 usb 2.0 ports, if it only has 3 i'd consider it but ive not been a fan or any of the usb type 3 ports and drivers.

[@Vegetto19]

6:52 well that pretty much sums up this video haha

[@jonashediger182]

Very good vid!

[@javierperea8967]

I want to build a machine with a 10100 cpu.... I don't find any MB of 50$ xD.

[@luffararnesugerkuk]

Def true, although it's impossible to win/win with technology hehehe, went for the ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero wifi but should have aimed at slightly cheaper board cause soon after some improved/updated version will surely be available, in my case the Dark Hero so mid range X570 or higher end B550 could be a good choice, can even upgrade the mobo again without spending more in total so?? But again, should not cry over spilled milk and always number 2 in this game, hence never aim for those extreme boards unless LN2, famous overclockers often get them free through sponsorship anyways so? I overspent, have a tendency to do so, must get it under control and do myself a favor since not some extreme overclocker looking to squeeze out every single Mhz

[@luffararnesugerkuk]

EDIT: Correction, went for standard VIII Hero wifi, want the Dark now but will not

[@drewdrew7459]

i've 2200g with b450m mortar ... could've gone with 1400 + rx570 on a320m

[@HarryVoyager]

Yeah. My only over-buy I regret was the 7990. The 870 Pro was overkill; I would have been fine with an Evo, but I don't regret getting it. It was my first SSD and I didn't fully trust them yet, and its run fine since then. (Even including the goofy incompatibility that my Z87 motherboard's onboard sata ports had with SSDs.) When I was building my current machine, I seriously considered a B450 motherboard, but the whole comparability complexity just made me not want to get into that ball of crazy, so I got a $200-250 X570. I'm rather glad I did, not the least of which being, in a couple of years when games are actually streaming from SSD's like the consoles will be, I've got a spare PCIE 4.0 slot for a drive that can really smoke.

[@YourSkyliner]

Half the cost of the CPU for a mobo is a reasonable rule of thumb. I‘d personally add that a CPU should cost about half the money of the GPU you‘re pairing it with.

[@AmirChemE]

i pair a very cheap Asrock b460m ($85) with an i7-10700 ($300)

[@technologu]

Why would I pay for wifi, bluetooth, double lan when I don't use them. Why would I pay for 4 m.2 when I only use 2, or 4 PCIe lanes when I only use 1 maybe two. But I will make use of 16 cores and 16 vs 8 or 12 is a big difference.

[@KNGER1988]

I want this guys memory

[@Bendigo1]

Why? Just buy your own...

[@Darckalejox]

4:30

[@KeinNiemand]

The problem with Motherboard is that other then thinga like the chipset used wheter (X or B or whatever) and features like WiFi(which I don't need on a desktop becouse ethernet is better) it's hard to compare motgerboards there are no really specs for the quality of the components used and things like that and therr are often like 10+ motherboards from the same features, chipset and platform with no diffrence whatsoever in the specs other then the name and the price. Therr just no entry in the spec sheet thats tells you the quality of the components or whatever. Like what's the diffrence between a Prime Z-170 A (I know a bit outdated but that's what I currently have and it's just an example) and a ROG STRIX Z-170-(Insert Letter Here) with no wifi and same number of ports?

[@Ray2001ify]

YIP... did that with my last mobo

[@drbmaitra]

There's practically, repeat practically no difference between a Asus ROG Strix B450- F Gaming Mobo and an Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming Mobo excepting twice the price of the latter.

[@balaaditya9982]

That first sentence aged like milk lol ahem. B560

[@L.Scott_Music]

Of all things in a PC the motherboard is the hardest to upgrade (CPU next but at least you don't have to disassemble the whole PC). So that's the thinking on my part. I wish I was starting with the B550 right now instead of the X470 because my upgrade path would be so much more sound. Sigh, the X470 is on the shelf and so is the R7 1700X. So... free, or $500? Free it is.

[@a.ndy.nonymous]

my build 3900x GIGABYTE x570 gaming x (see? cheap MOBO i payed 167USD @ microcenter 7/14/19) {4ghz all core OC} [i live 1.7 miles from MC, ha] 64gb 3200mhz reference 5700xt (sapphire open box at MC for 360 USD 8/10/19) elgato 4k60 pro mk2 850w GA evga (110 USD!) 2tb rocketQ 1tb vpn 100 (bought @132 USD shipped a year ago!) 9 ql120 fans (LOL) NH D15 (with 3 ql120) LG internal BLU RAY drive fancy cable extensions Fractal Focus G (lol) k95 platinum xg438q ds300 mouse 3xl corsair pad (yay on that purchase) so in hindsight ya i cheaped out my my mobo but not case fans..... HAHAHAHA I swear my monitor says im running 4k MSFS20 at 64ish FPS. ill have to look into another source on that spec haha

[@II-MEDIC-II]

Ditto 3:00 minutes in i5 3570k

[@jonashediger182]

This is what I hate. I biught a nice mobo for my R5 5600X, the B550 Aorus Pro Ax. I payed about 1800$ on my Pc, (with nice corsair rgb fans etc) with an rtx 3060 Ti (keep in mind I live in Switzerland) and then my friend comes at me, like, yiu shiuld have had the cooler I bought, it has rgb and is only 30$ and buy this 80$ case and don't spend s much on your mobo... bla bla bla. He built a pc with an rtx 3070 for 1200$. And now hes like, you overspent (on everything). But I just like to have quality parts! Ofcourse you can build a with a Rtx 3080 (if it's the normal price) for 1500$ (actually you can build one for 1000$) but should you? In my opinion that's a no go.

[@dazeen9591]

I bought a 300€ motherboard and a 100€ CPU 🤣

[@C0d0ps]

Commenting for KZbin Algorithm2

[@dom_m7879]

The point of balance between different components seems not to be understood very well... i also see people getting a 3600x with an rtx 280super, which is an around 200$ CPU with a freakin 700$+ GPU. That doesnt seem to make any sense for me.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Indeed, that’s nuts... if you’re going 2080, at least get the Ryzen 7

[@dom_m7879]

@@ByteSizeTech Yes that is my opinion as well... thanks for the great videos by the way!

[@Sedge86]

to be fair, if they're playing at 4k, it's really not going to make any difference at all 99% of the time

[@dom_m7879]

@@Sedge86 Yeah at 4k but you wont be playing 4k forever right? After a couple of years you have to go down with settings and resolution in newer games so thats when it starts making a difference again. So why not buying a good balanced pc instead.

[@Sedge86]

@@dom_m7879 even at 1440p the difference will be within 5% today. And as games become more gpu bottlenecked as they get more complex, that difference will likely shrink further. I honestly don't see a problem with getting a 3600x with even a 2080ti. The exception would be eSports and competitive players at 1080p. But most of us don't drop over $100 on a gpu to play at 1080p.

[@johnmiles2070]

Any system is only as good as the weakest component...

[@ssjenforcer191191191]

I got a 3800x instead of 3900x to save $100 or so. Why would I not upgrade to get 50% more cores?! I also got a 2060 OC recently (new build) and now the 3000s are coming. Regret!

[@deenycest10710]

IF i were to buy a 3700X today for 259 bucks (MicroC), IMO it's not worth it to spend more than 175 bucks on the mobo. That's it. There are x570 and b-550 boards at that price and even a bit less. I don't agree with buying a top end cpu like the 3900x and then "FEEL" that I "NEED" to spend 200+ dollars on the board and 200 bucks for a "premium" nvme ssd (or whatever component) to "MATCH" the premium equipment used in my build. If it's compatible, it's compatible. You can build your system and upgrade it later. Saying that I "SHOULDN'T" pair one component with another ESPECIALLY when they are compatible is abhorrent. That's elitist talk and honestly the wrong philosophy. Targeting a balanced build is good, but sometimes you have to work with the budget and parts available at the time and make the best of it. If you know you wanted 8 cores and 16 threads to achieve parity with the next gen consoles but only have a thousand bucks to spend? Get the 115 dollar b550 with the 20 dollar discount and a 95 dollar ssd. DONE. All under a thousand bucks. BUT try to keep it under that price using tech's philosophy. AIN'T gonna happen. And i guarantee you will love your under thousand dollar PC with 8 cores a 5700xt, SSD and 16GB of 3200mhz ram for years to come (albeit without raytracing). Other than that love the new branching off. A channel needing this more does not exist with Tech's love of extra long rants. My 2 cents.

[@Mustanggt505]

lol thats my exact build 3700x on b550m pro4 from Asrock with a xfx 5700xt runs pretty much every game on high at 144 hz some dips here the there since navi does run a little hot

[@q3d385]

That lady is so awkward. I like her!

[@ByteSizeTech]

Two people can't talk at the same time, and when Tech has an answer you let him talk!! I am here as with out me, you wouldn't have Tech!!! Want to see Rogue talk then check out the visual podcast video that posted 9/14/20 and also Tech News Network, she will talk your ear off !!!

[@jameshill6846]

DDo Your Own Research

[@emanuelporic]

He sounds so lost...

[@davidlee3203]

I think your motherboard should cost the same as your cpu

[@Coffeeandacigarette]

I bought a strix x-470f gaming with a 2600 and a 1080 ti. With plans to upgrade to a ryzen 7 3700 or (crosses fingers) 4700 in the future.

[@thecartooncynic]

So here is a question, what price point today is considered "low end" for a motherboard? I ask because I get a little pissed off when someone calls the motherboard I just bought for $330 "Low End". Considering I almost spend $700 for the CPU. I bought the 13900k and am pairing it with ASUS Prime Z790-A WiFi 6E. Literally brand spanking new components, and you have the BALLS to call the motherboard Low-fucking-end???