Meme Guide: F-4 and Friends

[@taxigalaxi]

4 days later F4 ICE confirmed lmao

[@Spartans5499]

I can back to this video to make this comment too. 😂

[@jaxmex4540]

And the premium mig21 bison lol

[@luistwz]

can always count on gaijin to make donuts videos outdated

[@sonodavidjr6485]

and its the worse one

[@devyn.n05]

I was wondering why I hadn't got any ads in this HOUR long video... then I got to the Kurnass 2000 chapter. this was awesome!

[@otterf104]

I got like 3 ads after that section

[@therealjammie2371]

This video can be summarised as "donut bullies premium players for over an hour" and I fucking adore it.

[@aseortoalgoritmo7002]

Seems right to me

[@wither6039]

As an F4S player (not bomber), I fell offended but I like it.

[@laisy961]

As someone who loves F-4E unironically, I approve of this. Seriously some F-4S players can't even take off properly.

[@AuGTN01]

@@wither6039 F4S players that play as genuine fighters are scary for me (MiG-21bis Lazur-M user). the amount of time i've died to perfectly shot AIM-7s is incalculable and i never take a F4S head on

[@therealjammie2371]

@@wither6039 it's fine, I was one of the "F5C monkeys" for a long ass time. Been using the F5E as a stopgap between now and the F4E (can't wait to give it a shot). Also, I learned pretty quickly that the F5's can be an absolute menace in the right hands.

[@זהסודי-ה7מ]

Fun fact: the US only agreed to sell the F-4E to Israel after Israel stole a MiG-21 from Iraq and sent it to the US. Also super phantom 2000 pls Gaijin

[@_Fanzy_]

The F-4EJ kai is apparently considered as a super phantom

[@TheKitsuneHina]

the israeli super phantom already exists in game, its called the Kurnass 2000. Edit: nvm i thought ur talking about the kurnass, but yeah that'd be cool to see in game

[@vasilije94]

Sure. Its not like 80% of US government isnt jewish. Mig or not, they would have F4 either way. Same way they received F15 and the way they recieve other weapons and trilions of dollars every year....

[@fboyg91]

Bro any phantom added to top tier at this rate would be pure misery. The EJ-Kai gets stomped and that’s basically an F4-F ICE without the AIM-120.

[@lonewolf9462]

@@fboyg91I would like to say F-4EJ kai was the most fun I had in a phantom because of the aim9-L’s.

[@defus6590]

the pure excitement over the GazaBomber 2000 had me rolling

[@cdeAB-tb9bm]

Well save that nickname for baz&barak dude

[@viperz3r016]

You mean Gaza Groper and Gobbler?

[@theboreditamar2108]

my boi did no such thing. nothing happened at 21.2.1973

[@Bean_guy2]

@@viperz3r016tf

[@deathslasher1239]

You literally predicted Gaijin adding two planes which came true: the F-4F ICE and the Indian MiG-21 “Bison”

[@jaxmex4540]

Yea i came to the comenta for saying the same

[@Boris_The_Turtle]

4:30 "If you actually speak German, then I am sorry, that's got to be my second least favorite disability" 💀💀💀

[@steffent.6477]

Yeah, screw you too... ^^

[@Lexus-fo3ey]

Ich fühle mich schon so dumm dann muss ich nicht auch noch von sprechendem Gebäck verhöhnt werden

[@ItzCPU_]

Now Gaijin is definitely going to add more F-4 variants next patch, in order to make this video obsolete.

[@theincrediblefox]

The most recent leak actually suggests, that Germany will get an upgraded F-4F next update. 😂

[@jangustl_wt2358]

I heard rumors about the F4F-ICE.

[@cookiecraze1310]

The ICE or Super Phantom would be cool.

[@Phantom24425]

I wouldn't complain, my bird needs even more love 😚😚😊😊

[@raddons]

Boy do I have some news for you..

[@explosivecommando9100]

F-4F ICE coming DO A FLIP

[@manodipanmahakuda5630]

i just found out and the first thing to do was come here and tell donut

[@martymcfly1567]

"Its only a war crime if you dont win", hits as hard as the kurnass 2000

[@PhantomTechnik131]

Vietnam, ww1, literally any colonization just about ever, etc moment

[@Bean_guy2]

@@PhantomTechnik131how tf were the Vietnam war and ww1 colonisation

[@MrBlueBurd0451]

I pack a single base' worth of rockets on My F-4S and still regularly get ace-in-a-flight games. Sounds like a severe skill issue for the mouthbreathers to me.

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

Same here. When I was grinding hard us tree, I was taking napalm for a single base, full aa load, arrived there before monkeys with a full load of bombs, and switched to fighter role afterwards. Ended up with a 2.1 kd with abysmal 45% win rate because of... reasons

[@TheDoubleace191]

Same here as well. I pack 6 1000lb bombs for taking out a single base alongside A2A loadout of 5 Sparrows and 2 Sidewinders. I got to do both bombing bases and scoring player air kills regularly. I either engage enemy players first on the way to the base or turn back to engage them after successfully bombing a base.

[@Bun-BunG]

As a Jewish guy, I have to say, The Kurnass 2000 (or as I like to call it, The Hospital Bomber 2000) section was funny as hell! It's so funny that I will now take those jokes into the war thunder lobby!. Also, kinda sad that you didn't give any White Phosphorus joke... I don't get how people get offended, those jokes are amazing and I liked them. Good job man, keep it up

[@courier.66]

Kurnass 2000 is the real life Anakin Skywalker's lightsaber, the Youngling Slayer 9000 and the pilots are Anakin

[@thorluis226]

To be fair to the f4j, in real life the f4e could only carry 30 flares, so it does have that as an advantage. 16:49

[@xlgapelsin6173]

Although im Swedish and only understand a small bit of german hearing "If you actually speak German im sorry its my second least favorite disability" had me rolling on the floor

[@ilikeboom100]

Those are like the tamest Israel jokes i've ever heard

[@DonutWithMustache]

the not-tame ones caused the video to be "restricted for offensive content" when i first uploaded it

[@ilikeboom100]

@@DonutWithMustache nooooo 😭 Good video though keep it up

[@who_tf_stole_my_name]

What I used to do in the F-4C Phantom was run a full stealth gunpod loadout and uninstall the accuracy upgrade Perfect for duck hunting

[@iwyrilja]

I’ve been spoiled by Heatblurs F-4, im never flying the F-4 in WT again

[@GipsyDanger41]

true

[@croskerk]

Gosh the F-4E by Heatblur is awesome, but I'm broke lul. Though I'm stuck with WT F-4s for right now

[@cookiecracker2]

I dont play DCS, but I'm fairly familiar with it, I like to watch growling sidewinder. I'm curious what makes you love the phantom so much in DCS?

[@farawayseal]

@@cookiecracker2 not the commenter, but i love the Heatblur f-4e so much for a couple reasons, firstly its the best simulation of a phantom ever, its fairly easy to get into, that even I, who nearly completely new to dcs doesnt have too hard a time learning it due to the documentation and the tutorials available, and because of how dcs is structured, you'll almost never see f-16's, and very rarely mig-29's,unless you choose to, you will instead mostly see other aircraft of a similar era, with similar capabilities in air to air combat

[@loneirregular1280]

There is no grind in DCS. Its a more immersive experience. You really control an aircraft in DCS, from start up until the very end. But I also like WT when I just want airquake. WT made me love Phantoms and Mig-23s; DCS made me love the F/A-18C Hornet... Only played both initially for the Su-27 and Mig-29; now I feel the need... the need for speed!

[@karamd.9101]

25:10 as an Arab I would say that this donut absolutely nailed the arabic word for 2000 Very good job my donut

[@DonutWithMustache]

funilly enough, thats also very close to how you pronounce it in Hebrew

[@djendjendjendjendjen9442]

isn't donut syrian

[@karamd.9101]

@@djendjendjendjendjen9442 wait what???

[@karamd.9101]

@@DonutWithMustache hbb from where r u???

[@DonutWithMustache]

@@djendjendjendjendjen9442 yep

[@WadoViceMan]

kurnass jokes hit harder than drone strike into humanitarian convoy

[@sooryan_1018]

Knowing Donut is a fan of Initial D and Yakuza hit me harder that the Silver R32 GT-R on a white Mazda FC3S

[@CyberBot17]

"...It's only a war crime if you don't win." That got me thinking really hard about this on the toilet for like 5 minutes straight holly shit.

[@freezedvegetal]

The Gordon Ramsey clip had me in hysterics for a full 10 minutes lmfao. Also great work on the cinematics, you can really tell the improvement from prior videos.

[@PerfectedVenus_Monsoon]

It's always amazing to see the USS Enterprise skin on the F-4J, it reminds me of my uncle who served on that same ship during Vietnam.

[@PerfectedVenus_Monsoon]

Also, "Watch Gaijin add the F-4F Ice like a week later". Seeing it in the potential leak list had me laughing!

[@jj1brosky]

The foreshadowing is unreal.

[@somethingsomethingcrotasen1643]

Also for those new phantom players I reccomend listening to meteors sound track it doesn't matter if you can't hear the RWR because 1. you'll be killing everything you see. 2. your phantom will be more agile.

[@ace_maker3492]

Can confirm as an old player

[@lucinator8582]

im honestly surprised with how quickly you got this video out, It feels like you made the Fishbed guide last week! Great stuff per usual, and maybe, just maybe with the impressive release speed maybe Maybe that it’ll quickly beat the Gambling video

[@ATS_i_piss_on_G00gle]

F4 Kurnass description.....😂😂😂😂.Savage!!😅😅 Sad tho... F4J is a missile bus video but with a 3 or more fights in a row.NOT the cherry picked goods fights you get every now and then.Let's see how well can you use that radar.

[@Jayden-mu1kh]

Womp

[@lotuswurst7498]

What's sad?

[@ATS_i_piss_on_G00gle]

@@lotuswurst7498 what happens with palestinians. I can't belive i have to explaine this..

[@starliner2498]

F-4J is a good plane, i manage to average around 1 or 2 kills every match (have a few 3 and 4 kill matches too), I'm sorry but you need to practice more in it

[@ATS_i_piss_on_G00gle]

@@starliner2498 on what mode do you use the radar when the furball develops. Since my main problem with this bus is the fact i can't make that stupid radar lock 💩.I try to use it on PD narrow mode mostly once i get in the heat.And i have problem locking even planes that move my way(head on)...

[@asadchatha4184]

God Damn that Meteor Soundtrack is Golden. Great video as always Starch-Stache.

[@bakomusha]

Fun fact my great-uncle designed the secondary start up system for the F-4. Don't know what other planes he worked on, but his home is packed with Phantom memorabilia and models.

[@YourUncleGreg]

I just don't get how can you match THAT perfectly my sense of humor. Especially how you sent that paragraph of dark jokes in a row about Kurnass. It got me on the the ground giggling for good 10 minutes. Yea, and also that part where you explain playstyle for each Phantom etc. was actually good too. But who actually watches your Meme Guides for purpose to learn something about some aircraft and its family, am I right ;)

[@Miner4472]

I love the F-4C despite the fact my favourites are Naval Phantoms, it's not difficult to play I literally have a positive K/D in it. The trick? Run away, then run back towards them after they've picked a new target. Oh and don't forget NO BOMBS.

[@EATSxBABIES]

Jokes about gunpods and weight aside, having recently spaded my Kfirs you REALLY notice just how spoiled you were to be able to run those gunpods on the early F4s

[@mewhenitfriday]

3 hours until donut peaks and he can stop uploading forever

[@handlesarecringe957]

The bad service record of Air Force F-4s in Vietnam was because of poor training and doctrine, not the missiles. The Navy F-4s performed perfectly fine without a gun pod.

[@stonedronin9555]

My man you could be a used jet salesman with how you be pitching the Kurnass 2000

[@erice.9514]

I love you for loving the F-4C as much as I do. (Still adding theF-4B would be awesome, or flying it in a two man team)

[@Duality.12]

I started playing the F4S like a fighter (I never bombed with it I was just scared of radar missiles and 12.3) and I can get kills now but I still struggle, I just can’t evade missiles well or stay at the floor lmao. Great video 10/10

[@Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse]

Phantom is beautiful. Can't imagine how they thought the plane is ugly.

[@Frogg-YT]

that lead joke was personal i swear

[@Darth_Wader07]

These videos have the hardest edits of the jets every single god damn time, great job man! Keep up this epic series.

[@Darth_Wader07]

Also lol the F4-F ICE was leaked to be most likely coming soon

[@m1sz3lpl24]

Hey! I just want to say that F-4S is one of my favourite fighters in the entire game, I have pretty good KD with, it really is incredible. We exist lol! Btw I really recommend taking 5 Sparrows 2 Sidewinders, that extra 7F, one of the best radar missiles in the game, is easily worth 2 mid IRs. Sometimes when I feel like it I even take 6 Sparrows, unless you are right on the deck Sparrow&F-4S radar can absolutely score kills below 1km in rear aspect :D Anyways great video cheers

[@MrDelta_tacticsl]

The description for the nicknames caught me off guard like Rhino was called a powerful predator lol

[@gabrielnadeau7191]

Great choice of music! Nice reference to Heatblur simulator’s Dcs F-4 Phantom II

[@SlavaUkraini345]

Love the use of the meteor F-4E soundtrack. Its all bangers. Top tracks being. J79 BOLO Kai And all of the others.

[@gravygraves5112]

Did you just say "bombing in an F-5C"? The AUDACITY. Who in their right mind takes that little light fighter to bomb. I swear man, some people.

[@LV3BRR]

In the F4E, i bomb 1 base and then i go to get kills, i get on average 3 kills a game and almost always get a base. Im still contributing to the team and im helping myself, win win

[@ovrwrldkiler]

goddamn man thats some beautiful editing on some of those montages. Especially a fan of the missile fire shots in the EJ Kai bit- that looked great. Also those IDF jokes had me rolling when we got to the kurnass 2000

[@_d3642]

And... there's the F4-ICE just days after this video 😂😂😂 Please make a video of F-22 and friends so Gaijin will add F-22 in days

[@imdeadinside792]

Dude your now my favourite war thunder KZbinr for that kurnass 2000 segment

[@apoz1182]

rewatching this video i noticed you predicted the 21 bison, awesome stuff!

[@PhantomTechnik131]

We need a Kurnass 2000 style moment for the US, I’m kind of suprised that he didn’t do so in a vid about a Vietnam era plane, big missed opportunity.

[@Davinox]

and this video is obsolete, gaijin added f4 Ice

[@Viotuni25]

Finally made it to the premiere, love your meme guides

[@Icehawk_9]

I honestly hope eventually that after you (eventually) get through the jets and stuff that you continue with the other plane families. I love this series because it mixes game advice with actual historical differences, which.. I'm a nerd so I dig that sh!t.

[@Adrella_Highwing]

I've really stayed away from the phantoms, other than necessary grinding, but this guide has made me want to go back and give them another shot

[@mab2187]

I like your reviews, you cover all variants, the history for each variant is especially what I like. I love to learn some backstory for design.

[@SuperCookieGaming_]

i loved playing the f-4f early when it came out because it was the only phantom at the time that could carry gun pods and missiles. when custom loadouts became a thing the other f-4s can now do that. if you are playing the f-4 without flares you can take rocket pods as suedo flares. if you cut afterburner turn and send off a volley rockets will usually track them instead. head on ir missiles are harder to dodge than with normal flares tho.

[@TheGuyYouLostTo]

I pheel like this video is 10% documentary, 30% cinematics, 20% memes, 50% guide, and 100% PHREEDOM 🔥🔥RAHHHHHHH 🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@moldysporks2233]

The kurnass 2000 is now a midmobile as now it can fight aim9m slingers and see top tier planes sometimes ❤

[@trevorstriker1179]

You genuinely have some of the best war thunder content out there. These guides are now my favorite content for war thunder alongside mr DEFYN

[@alvarohernani6645]

Petition to re-upload in 4 years

[@savasolarov8424]

The video was top performance memery, thank you very much for the work of art comrade Donut! I rate the same top score for Mig-21, Mig-23 and F-104 videos!

[@professorgrouch]

Such refined presentation. You’ve come a long way, Donut. We love you.

[@Phage-]

Love your comedy man! Respect, there are such few people nowadays who do dark humor bec so many people seem to go crazy when someone does it. It also just so happens to be my kind of humor.

[@mastermidir]

I miss the Kurnass 2000's Sparrows, it was incredible time to be a Phantom lover.

[@sindrerisan6586]

That kurnass 2000 section had me genuinely gasping for air😂 absolutely love this channel

[@who_tf_stole_my_name]

I'm sorry but after all the Hype I had for it in DCS and now finally getting it and flying it I can never really look at it in Wart Hunder anymore. I've just been flying it in DCS while the Meteor tracks are playing in the background at full volume every day since it came out XD

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

Yeah, that thing is a blast

[@m1sz3lpl24]

Also a blessing for red players on cold war servers, MiG-21s are eating good right now lmao

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

@@m1sz3lpl24 that's mainly a skill issue

[@m1sz3lpl24]

@@ВячеславФролов-д7я oh for sure, although I don't think it'll ever go above 1:1 kd vs mig21 for the Anvil lol

[@paint4r]

No way he made the video 3 days before F-4 ICE was confirmed

[@GP15Connoisseur]

The more I play the Phantom (specifically the F-4F/F-4F ICE), the more I fall in love with it. It’s a magnificent bird to fly, has good armament and loadouts, familiar playstyle, and, as you said, it’s overall a very fun and forgiving aircraft. Also, I live very close to where the F-4 plant used to be. It’s a shame that Boeing left it abandoned.

[@henrykberndt4429]

the editing and video quality alone are making this well worth a watch

[@BohemianCloud35]

I would play the Phantoms if they could dodge IR missiles. I have so many clips of missiles, just IGNORING flares, no matter if I have the afterburner on or not while pulling like a $50 lot lizard. This thing is TOO HOT!

[@mahejo]

It's crazy the F-4C PII got moved up to 10.7

[@HornetCinematics]

The video came out very nice. High quality and entertaining. Very nice!

[@behrouznayeri2570]

Amazing guide, really like your work and sense of humor 😂👌 also Iran has phantoms as well they did an operation called H3 with them, basically bombed the iraqi air base on the furthest side of the borders and came back all in one piece. they upgraded them heavily and have them still in service.

[@tokugawa33]

check out my F-4EJ Kai Phantom 2 bombing and 4 kills casual run (3457 pts) and F-4EJ Kai Phantom II ace + 2 bases. (4570 pts) For a max income bombs can make sense especially giving the advantage not to arrive first at the furball ^^ especially with the good radar missiles. What ppl dont do is when they see a situation where you have to fight: they often dont drop the bombs away - it can safe you becoming lighter in time. I agree for a best fight performance go full aircombat only but in case your aim is max pts its arguable. sometimes its also fun to just play a mission like thing with bombing and dealing with bandits. love all your plane series, keep it up, really nice quality and very entertaining as well.

[@polskisebek5151]

Finnaly a Phatom meme guide, funny and good video as always. Thanks Donut! Edit, bro please link these banger tracks in vid description or a comment cause they're just amazing. Also for anyone looking for these amazing tracks I think I found them, look for "Meteor Ghosts of thunder" at least seems like it's most tracks doughnut used in this vid.

[@DonutWithMustache]

all tracks used are from Meteor's new album about the Phantom, "Of Ghosts and Thunder"

[@polskisebek5151]

@@DonutWithMustache thanks a lot bro

[@unlockingsnow73]

16:10 Can confirm I grinded the whole isreal air tree without a premium vehicle and I still have no idea what I'm doing. I just wanted the shiny F16 to put in my ground lineups.

[@svx4477]

I was hoping you'd actually talk about the Terminator 2020, sad

[@Jmoose845]

New record 3-4 days for gaijin to announce a phanthom ll and mess up the video

[@Hoarding_Bug]

ahh, the F-4S, my favourite plane (to fire a 50g death-stick at) Also holy based, that Israeli Phantom section was something else, I love it.

[@uorfi7774]

The whole israel roast got my smoker ass playing the "Wheezing Laugh Sound Effect" on loop for 5 minutes. Donut knows what he's talking about. Great video!

[@GabrielBarbosa-gs6vk]

Fella did an awesome video, less then 4 days later Gaijin comes and now gotta make a patch for the new upcoming german Phantom after next update, lol

[@NoisterPro]

Now we need a F5C series please

[@sebastiankillin7940]

That f4f ICE joke didnt age well.

[@DonutWithMustache]

it didnt age at all, its only been four days bruh

[@explosivecommando9100]

​@@DonutWithMustachehow u feel ma frend, idk if you can edit this video once published and say "GUESS WHAT HAPPENED?"

[@t3dweipin193]

57:19 Yukikaze mentioned, Life's good

[@ki11er0ne9]

Here comes the flying brick

[@TysiekFox]

​@Staubsaugerus F-104 🗿

[@aseortoalgoritmo7002]

​@@TysiekFoxthe F-104 is the pencil

[@TysiekFox]

@@aseortoalgoritmo7002 still flies like a brick

[@aseortoalgoritmo7002]

@@TysiekFox that's also true

[@girl_twink]

PLA paraglider goes crazy 😭 go buy a tesco meal deal

[@shamgamer3915]

the fact that he say 2000 in hebrew wrong every single time makes it better imo and is even better with the ph joke (half of it is incorrect)

[@DonutWithMustache]

its even better when you realize im saying 2000 in arabic and not hebrew

[@Azuraerae]

@@DonutWithMustache HJAHAHAHAHAJAHAJAHAJH

[@cahdoge]

I played the living hell out of the F-4E when it came out. The thing absolutely slapped and now with top tier beyond 12.0 is really good again. In the first few months it could even take Sidewinders and Mavericks on the same pylon.

[@isleepal0n3]

This channel is painfully underrated for the content that it puts out, keep it up blud

[@TomPrickVixen]

Kind of the same goes for the "Milan" ! While it has a acceptable ground attack abilities, and can just barely solo a base, It is still a Mirage 3 with new nose and a better engine + u can use the "whiskers" under 500km/h if u get stuck in a 1 vs 1 turn-fight. But most unfortunate players who brought it using it as a one-way bomber, and just crash into the closest bombing point while holding "space". BTW the F-4C is awesome in "air assault" mode!

[@pencilcase8068]

Hello Mr donut, why are you so good that I watch these even though I'm at 2.3 br in planes and plan on staying there for a while in the P-40-E-1

[@tobiaspramono378]

Bro dropped the best WT F-4 edit and tought we wouldnt notice

[@cerealeggvr6942]

Just realized the dcs f-4 release was only a few days short of the actual f-4

[@The_AeroAce]

I was actually playing the F4 phantom when I met you in game. Coincidentally, I'd been taking a break from my f15a and f16c by flying the more primitive and fun F4s, and we talked about the names for the phantom, as well as hinted at the upcoming video 👀

[@FishFlys]

the early missiles were capable of hitting targets very consistently as they were tested extensively before being out into use, it was the lack of training in regards to the limitations of missiles that lead to so many misses. if you read over reports of misfires you see a clear trend. sometimes it was the missile, but the vast majority of the time, especially for american missiles, the weapon was launched outside of kill parameters

[@digiXmadness]

I think Gaijin has it out for you, since they added a new MiG-21 and a new Phantom in the upcoming new update... Looking forward to your new reviews haha :)

[@Stew-lee76]

25:50 "watch gaijin add F-4F ICE like a week later" soo ummm, yeah the F-4F ICE got leaked(and quite a few vehicles were confirmed from that list, and its available to fly on the Dev server) so that means that next update were getting the F-4F ICE

[@The-Red-Baron]

Babe wake up! Donut dropped another meme guide! 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@starfleethastanks]

War Thunder makes me so sad. Thanks for including some DCS soundtrack to make this more palatable.