Doom Eternal Ultra-Nightmare Monster Tier List (ft. Peter)

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decino

decino

3 жыл бұрын

Praying to sweet Jeebus that id Software doesn't render this list obsolete by updating enemy AI or spawns in a future patch.
Peter's EP:
megasphere.bandcamp.com/album...
Patreon:
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@dimples9746
@dimples9746 3 жыл бұрын
King Novik is on SSS tier. Hearing him say “against all the evil that hell can conjure” for the 700th time will kill the player in real life
@valletas
@valletas 3 жыл бұрын
Well its better then "welcome to the dungeon marine"
@RealMephres
@RealMephres 3 жыл бұрын
@@valletas "Hey, you're finally awake."
@iagolopezferreiro1278
@iagolopezferreiro1278 3 жыл бұрын
"You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"
@demilembias2527
@demilembias2527 3 жыл бұрын
its definitely not as cool as "they are rage. brutal, without mercy."
@Zellio2011
@Zellio2011 3 жыл бұрын
@@demilembias2527 You know king novik said those words too right?
@_antares031
@_antares031 3 жыл бұрын
"No Target" Chainsaw : *Tier SS* Unreliable Blood Punch : *Tier SS*
@valterbranisarajevo8731
@valterbranisarajevo8731 3 жыл бұрын
ikr?
@neppyneppynepu
@neppyneppynepu 3 жыл бұрын
Whats really annoying is when you try to melee a buff totem and its like HEY LETS BLOOD PUNCH THIS THING
@Hateful_Rex
@Hateful_Rex 3 жыл бұрын
chaingun's sound effect: *tier SSS*
@rdowg
@rdowg 3 жыл бұрын
@@neppyneppynepu this is why I jump whenever I destroy totems, even if it eats a BP, it will give you another BP for the "glorykill"
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 3 жыл бұрын
FUCKING BLOODPUNCH IT NEVER WORKS GOD DAMN LET ME PUNCH THIS FUCKING FATSO
@llomama8216
@llomama8216 3 жыл бұрын
Peter: *Gives legitimate skillful advice* Decino: " *Just shoot at it until it dies lmao* "
@Sergus0
@Sergus0 Жыл бұрын
Well. It works don't it?
@kris-gj6be
@kris-gj6be Жыл бұрын
@@Sergus0 well true
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
@ZeldaTheSwordsman Жыл бұрын
I mean, what do they say about killing the Cyberdemon?
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Жыл бұрын
In fairness that is dooms entire philosophy
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Жыл бұрын
And the tyrants
@somedudewithakeyboard5388
@somedudewithakeyboard5388 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I feel as though the Archvile deserves a spot in either Tier A, or Tier D mainly due to the fact that his summoning is so much of a threat that it works against him and always forces you to one-shot him whenever he shows up. So he's either so much of a threat that it wraps back around to him being low tier, or he's just an extreme threat that unfortunately exists in the same game as the crucible
@delofon
@delofon 3 жыл бұрын
Similar to demonic tomato a.k.a. cacodemon: extremely dangerous if left unattended, but very easily dealt with.
@somedudewithakeyboard5388
@somedudewithakeyboard5388 3 жыл бұрын
@@delofon yeah well the difference is one can be taken down with a single shotgun grenade... the other is half the reason the crucible is in the game
@tromboneman4517
@tromboneman4517 3 жыл бұрын
@@delofon, so basically a glass cannon?
@gayahhbihh
@gayahhbihh 3 жыл бұрын
too bad i never use The Crucible.
@diddlenfiddle7311
@diddlenfiddle7311 3 жыл бұрын
@@somedudewithakeyboard5388 Makes sense for sure. I've had so many runs ended by a caco that's floated up to me though so I always prioritise them at this point.
@Gemidori
@Gemidori 3 жыл бұрын
Imps in 2016: Incredibly dangerous in early levels and earn S tier Imps in 2020: goomba
@zach_boi8872
@zach_boi8872 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't watch the Super Mario Bros. Super Show
@goldfishfan1150
@goldfishfan1150 3 жыл бұрын
@@zach_boi8872 And they went to hell before they died.
@spartanwar1185
@spartanwar1185 3 жыл бұрын
Probably cause you can't really dash in 2016, so evading their shots is notably harder to do
@1891kmk
@1891kmk 3 жыл бұрын
Difference is I could beat doom 2016!
@2025fahaddenseje
@2025fahaddenseje 3 жыл бұрын
@@spartanwar1185 They can also predict your movement though...
@revenantdootdoot7135
@revenantdootdoot7135 3 жыл бұрын
I apologize that i wasn't as powerful as in doom 2
@spartanwar1185
@spartanwar1185 3 жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel better, i still play Doom 2
@las4gna84
@las4gna84 3 жыл бұрын
you should've keep your homing missiles bro
@doomchap7614
@doomchap7614 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve disappointed me revenant. (P.s. I spared your cousin in the cultist base)
@revenantdootdoot7135
@revenantdootdoot7135 3 жыл бұрын
@@doomchap7614 thank you
@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780
@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780 3 жыл бұрын
@@revenantdootdoot7135 if i had the game i would of all spared your cousin at the cultist base becuse your cousin is useful for getting the super shotgun
@brysonashcroft527
@brysonashcroft527 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a race known for hunting slayers till the ends of the world just to be outranked by a short guy with a shotgun and shield
@SoldierOfFate
@SoldierOfFate 3 жыл бұрын
This extends to the classic Doom games. You'd think the SS-tier Demon would be something like an Arch-Vile or Revenant, but nope it's a fat balding undead man whose sole existence is to end you with nearly unavoidable attacks.
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoldierOfFate to be fair, hitscan weapons are very powerful in retro games
@__8120
@__8120 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroelluxray5298 no hitscan weapons are very powerful in all games
@Breakaway-ic5gj
@Breakaway-ic5gj 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a species meant to hunt the Slayers but going extinct while trying to do it, and then coming back just to go extinct again
@mollywantshugs5944
@mollywantshugs5944 2 жыл бұрын
@@Breakaway-ic5gj imagine being a species driven to extinction by literally one guy with some guns
@newpancakeman
@newpancakeman 3 жыл бұрын
Doom Hunter: I have been meticulously designed for optimal destruction of you and your species Slayer: Ok big guy Whiplash: Lmao slither Slayer: Dear god...
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 2 жыл бұрын
Lock-on burst: Denied
@dogedeadidasdavi4
@dogedeadidasdavi4 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroelluxray5298 the one imp that get in your face: im Gonna Deny the denied
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 2 жыл бұрын
@@dogedeadidasdavi4 Chainsaw: ZA WARUDO *Saws walking ammo crate in half*
@SamuelTrademarked
@SamuelTrademarked 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroelluxray5298 Carcass shield: No, I don't think you will.
@carljohan9265
@carljohan9265 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelTrademarked Carcass shields can really screw you over if their timing is right. They can detonate your triple rockets in your face, trap you in a corner to allow another heavy to hit you, mess up your air maneuvering, or block you from reaching that glory kill you absolutely need to recover.
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT 3 жыл бұрын
Just don't die lmao!
@Auvisome
@Auvisome 3 жыл бұрын
Ni hao
@HoboVibingToMusic
@HoboVibingToMusic 3 жыл бұрын
You have a cold, boss?
@ianjazzpherignacio6405
@ianjazzpherignacio6405 3 жыл бұрын
This is bassically rock paper scissors and someone pulled a bfg 10 000 to put a hole in the universe
@multiwaypche6640
@multiwaypche6640 3 жыл бұрын
DAMN U PETER I CAN'T UNHEAR CHOCOLATE COINS CUS OF U
@gaetanboyals3360
@gaetanboyals3360 3 жыл бұрын
For some reasons, I lost my shit at "sneks"
@pumaplays6143
@pumaplays6143 3 жыл бұрын
“And a pathetic hell knight you can run past” Hell knight: Bro I’m trying my best.
@atrmial400
@atrmial400 3 жыл бұрын
This hell knight have take more stickies and sniper shots than all the legions of heck from the UN players
@samedwards3285
@samedwards3285 3 жыл бұрын
"just don't die lmao" is the most vague tip you can give someone on ultra nightmare and i love it
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT 3 жыл бұрын
Don't overthink it, it really is as simple as that. Just don't die.
@samedwards3285
@samedwards3285 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterLawrenceYT oh shit Peter Lawrence
@diddlenfiddle7311
@diddlenfiddle7311 3 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty good tip though!
@_V.Va_
@_V.Va_ 3 жыл бұрын
Remember, son; dying is gay.
@Slaking_
@Slaking_ 3 жыл бұрын
"Just shoot it till it dies" vibes
@HOWSEsounds
@HOWSEsounds 3 жыл бұрын
“If you make eye contact with a shotgunner, your health will disappear.” 💀
@buggy730
@buggy730 2 жыл бұрын
If you make eye contact with a BFG 1,000, your body will disappear.
@aircall2065
@aircall2065 2 жыл бұрын
Medusa, but necromancy and a guy mixed into it
@DogsRNice
@DogsRNice Жыл бұрын
Just hit the shield with the plasma gun a few times for free fireworks lol
@BrokenDesktop
@BrokenDesktop Жыл бұрын
@@DogsRNice ik this is very late but they also turn you into bloody mist with a couple shots as well. Embarrassed to say it cost me a run when I was walking through the super fire nest and not paying attention cause I was cleaning house. Dead ass went from full to null in about 1 second.
@Xndest
@Xndest 3 жыл бұрын
Enemy die in less than 12 shotgun shot in Doom Eternal : Ez Enemy doesnt die in 3 shotgun shot in Classic Doom : WTF Tier SS
@KingLich451
@KingLich451 3 жыл бұрын
But, doom's super shotgun is unparalelled
@aagh8714
@aagh8714 3 жыл бұрын
@@KingLich451 BOOMSTICK
@explosion1704
@explosion1704 3 жыл бұрын
@@aagh8714 DOOMstick
@SoldierMan755
@SoldierMan755 3 жыл бұрын
@@explosion1704 BDOOMSHTICK!!
@lred1383
@lred1383 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, enemies in the old doom didn't drop health when they died. It kinda balances itself out
@brenen9065
@brenen9065 3 жыл бұрын
decino in DOOM II: "The final boss of Doom II... is a wall." Icon of Sin: "I'll be right back..." *(brings out body)*
@Gemidori
@Gemidori 3 жыл бұрын
"You want a wall, well guess what my PECS are WALLS OF TESTOSTERONE HOW ABOUT THAT SON"
@fabrizeantonio4425
@fabrizeantonio4425 3 жыл бұрын
What gets me the most is that it's still technically a wall
@plasmaoctopus1728
@plasmaoctopus1728 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabrizeantonio4425 Yeah as much as I still enjoyed the fight, I'm surprised they didn't force you to jump building to building to fight around him as he destroys them. Like a larger scale Khan Makyr fight but instead of the floor turning into argent lava on one structure, the ground beneath you is constantly getting destroyed across an entire city.
@fabrizeantonio4425
@fabrizeantonio4425 3 жыл бұрын
@@plasmaoctopus1728 yeah that would be interesting. Otherwise he's basically just a moving wall that spawns demons and attacks
@coletrain583
@coletrain583 3 жыл бұрын
As a result, he became tier SS.
@shutyourjessup
@shutyourjessup 3 жыл бұрын
"Prowlers are being fannies as usual" is the most British quote I've ever heard
@vexatiouselk2130
@vexatiouselk2130 3 жыл бұрын
decino: “enemies in tiers d and f won’t be mentioned anymore” Also decino: 21:16
@ttty2242
@ttty2242 3 жыл бұрын
Decino just wanted to say "fuck you in particular" to the revenants
@ghetis396
@ghetis396 3 жыл бұрын
And 19:10
@BlackdragonTheShadow
@BlackdragonTheShadow 11 ай бұрын
He said FODDER enemies for Tier D… Pinkies aren’t Fodder if I’m not mistaken
@MrPwner911
@MrPwner911 3 жыл бұрын
"This arena is S tier if you're a gaming journalist" LMAO
@fran-angel4853
@fran-angel4853 3 жыл бұрын
"SS"
@chaseroberts8863
@chaseroberts8863 3 жыл бұрын
That was very clever of them to reference
@SoldierOfFate
@SoldierOfFate 3 жыл бұрын
The first area of the game is SSS tier if you're one of them.
@emin166
@emin166 3 жыл бұрын
SSS
@syweb2
@syweb2 2 жыл бұрын
@Unity I think I'm missing some context. What happened?
@angrypepe7615
@angrypepe7615 3 жыл бұрын
Shotguners in doom 2016: they die the instant you look at them Shotguners in doom eternal: you die the instant they look at you
@yelpeter
@yelpeter 3 жыл бұрын
The opposite for imps
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 3 жыл бұрын
Plasma gun: Jaja, shield zombies go BOOM
@kawaiidestruktor7809
@kawaiidestruktor7809 3 жыл бұрын
actually it's the opposite
@papayer
@papayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@bludstaynd7999 If you let a shotgunner get that close to you in the first place, that's 100% your problem
@bolson42
@bolson42 3 жыл бұрын
Isnt it the opposite lmao
@bullcheese2236
@bullcheese2236 3 жыл бұрын
ID Software: creates great enemies that are fun to fight and have a variety of different attacks. decino and Peter: b u l l i
@ProsecutorValentine
@ProsecutorValentine 3 жыл бұрын
You can almost hear Hugo taking notes to fix that in the future. Maybe. Perhaps.
@Kardignr
@Kardignr Жыл бұрын
Please what is Peter's channel o you tube
@Microster
@Microster 3 жыл бұрын
"This arena may be an S tier if you're a game journalist" Dean: bruh
@shiba2ndworlder
@shiba2ndworlder 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait till they release Doom Eternal: the Plutonia Experiment
@blackpants7385
@blackpants7385 3 жыл бұрын
And then you come across a stage called "Hunted".
@deceseze
@deceseze 3 жыл бұрын
thats just TAG 2
@ToaGatanuva
@ToaGatanuva 3 жыл бұрын
You will find The ancient gods a very fitting challenge
@megustalapizzaxd2463
@megustalapizzaxd2463 3 жыл бұрын
nah crash eternal the return of doom slayer and phobos and unecesary parallel univers lol
@goosemann2389
@goosemann2389 3 жыл бұрын
We already have it, it's called: TAG1 on nightmare
@chasematthews2437
@chasematthews2437 3 жыл бұрын
"When they get close, your health will disappear faster than my interest in playing Doom 3." Oh....okay......
@marcoe.3314
@marcoe.3314 3 жыл бұрын
I swear I died more to the doors than the actual demons
@Joshy_Boy
@Joshy_Boy 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like doom 3 tho. I started playing it after Christmas and have really enjoyed it. I feel like what it does it does well. Or it could be the horror nerd in me coming out idk.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 3 жыл бұрын
Doom 3? Don't you mean "Mars 3-D part 2"
@chasematthews2437
@chasematthews2437 3 жыл бұрын
Doom 3 was not the first doom game I played, but boy did it spook me good as a kid. Its not a traditional doom game but I still think it was good for what it tried to do.
@plasmaoctopus1728
@plasmaoctopus1728 3 жыл бұрын
@@chasematthews2437 And besides, if that's the "worst" official Doom game, I'd say Doom has been dealt a far better hand than pretty much any franchise from the 90's that's still around.
@tembefuxer3674
@tembefuxer3674 3 жыл бұрын
0:57 Level 01: Hell on Earth 3:09 Level 02: Exultia 5:55 Level 03: Cultist Base 10:14 Level 04: Doom Hunter Baze 12:59 Level 05: Super Gore Nest 16:19 Level 06: A.R.C. Complex 19:35 Level 07: Mars Core 22:09 Level 08: Sentinel Prime 23:13 Level 09: Taras Nabad 24:57 Level 10: Nekravol 26:18 Level 11: Nekravol - Part ll 27:24 Level 12: Urdak 29:35 Level 13: Final Sin
@dustyrust36
@dustyrust36 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pixelcrunch300
@pixelcrunch300 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish the modern Doom games would go back to the 30-level structure from the Old Times. It'll make the experience MUCH longer-lasting, so there can be more Ripping and Tearing.
@Goodbutevilgenius
@Goodbutevilgenius Жыл бұрын
​@@pixelcrunch300 yeah, just make the game 2.3 times longer than it is. What good advice, lmao.
@ArceTheTroll
@ArceTheTroll 11 ай бұрын
@@pixelcrunch300ut the old levels were so much shorter, doom eternal on a blind run took me about 15 hours, doom 1 took me5, and thats inlcudinh episode 4
@anthraxmacabre5200
@anthraxmacabre5200 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you can set frozen enemies on fire in this game lmao
@Polytank1981
@Polytank1981 11 ай бұрын
Or that you can even set literal hellspawn on fire, even the archvile and barons
@SoldierOfFate
@SoldierOfFate 5 ай бұрын
The Slayer's rage manifested into fire is so great that not even sub-zero temperatures and the fires of hell can contain it.
@ED-gw9rg
@ED-gw9rg 5 ай бұрын
I'm adding that feature to my game JUST to piss off the people who like Temperature Shock mechanics (Freeze -> Melt meta can go suck it)
@QuakeGamerROTMG
@QuakeGamerROTMG 3 жыл бұрын
The tier list is cropped too short to see SSS tier which is just Decino
@gipsydanger5802
@gipsydanger5802 3 жыл бұрын
Its pronounced ducino
@firstnamelastname5230
@firstnamelastname5230 3 жыл бұрын
Then there’s tier SSSS, which contains that one time when you accidentally crucibled a zombie
@solar901
@solar901 3 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamelastname5230 or when you missed Icon of Sin with BFG
@plasmaoctopus1728
@plasmaoctopus1728 3 жыл бұрын
@@solar901 Speaking of BFG's, is the Unmakyr as useless as I think it is or is there something I've missed?
@GoodlyData86596
@GoodlyData86596 3 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamelastname5230 or when you get the “that was a close one” achievement on accident
@Turbine2k5
@Turbine2k5 3 жыл бұрын
The real Tier SS is BATTLEMODE™!
@uselesschannel51
@uselesschannel51 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@alby_650
@alby_650 3 жыл бұрын
Battlemode makes feel UN a cake walk
@helios1_
@helios1_ 3 жыл бұрын
stop advertising
@NyoMurdi
@NyoMurdi 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@Demilich23
@Demilich23 3 жыл бұрын
@@alby_650 do you wanna try that again
@sordidspectacle7393
@sordidspectacle7393 3 жыл бұрын
25:47 transition is gold velvet imo
@ssgdivision7297
@ssgdivision7297 3 жыл бұрын
even though this is a monster tier list that transition needs to go at the top of the list
@Galburok
@Galburok 3 жыл бұрын
I hate KZbin rules, they cannot say such a trivial word like „hell“.
@WSADKO
@WSADKO 3 жыл бұрын
Bullying the enemies - tier list
@user-dx8sw8uu8o
@user-dx8sw8uu8o 3 жыл бұрын
Weapon combo's that bully enemies, Chaingun shield - tier SS
@davetheduck6801
@davetheduck6801 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-dx8sw8uu8o 3 shot Rocket Launcher: A tier
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 3 жыл бұрын
BFG: SS Tier
@dolger4308
@dolger4308 3 жыл бұрын
I have done it
@dolger4308
@dolger4308 3 жыл бұрын
699
@MichaelHendriks
@MichaelHendriks 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best tier list I've ever seen, well thought out and with interesting and matching footage instead of some general filler gameplay on loop. Thanks for a very entertaining video (and I don't even play Doom Eternal!)
@decino
@decino 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Glad to see someone else who agrees that narrating over filler gameplay is incredibly boring to watch.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 3 жыл бұрын
@@decino If you edit filler gameplay, you may as well not edit and turn it into a podcast, right? Less effort for the same result.
@maxime2445
@maxime2445 3 жыл бұрын
You should play it
@__psychobilly
@__psychobilly 3 жыл бұрын
rare instance of a factorio player spotted outside of the game
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 3 жыл бұрын
@@__psychobilly This was his break time between the shifts in Factorio and SatisFactory.
@adrianfranks2267
@adrianfranks2267 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a rare fan of Doom 3, that joke at it’s expense was hilarious. Fantastic list btw. I probably won’t try this one on Ultra Nightmare, 2016 kinda broke me and I find Eternal way harder. Your tier lists are fun to watch regardless though.
@user-lv5hl9cn8m
@user-lv5hl9cn8m 2 жыл бұрын
You need to try it even on nightmare. It is very good experience.
@ElPolloLoco7689
@ElPolloLoco7689 2 жыл бұрын
another Doom 3 enjoyer, I see
@adrianfranks2267
@adrianfranks2267 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElPolloLoco7689 I actually have the somewhat controversial opinion that it is my second favorite game in the series.
@ElPolloLoco7689
@ElPolloLoco7689 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianfranks2267 Doom 3 isn't my favourite neither, mine is Doom 2. I just love Doom 3 for the atmosphere and what it tried to do
@rhy45bianchi31
@rhy45bianchi31 Жыл бұрын
Doom 3 Is great game Just not a good Doom game
@SerathDarklands
@SerathDarklands Жыл бұрын
I have massive respect for anyone who can beat the game on Ultra Nightmare. I usually play on ITYTD, but I've beaten it on HMP with a handful of deaths.
@SimBol1216
@SimBol1216 3 жыл бұрын
I'd put the Marauder at A tier, personally. Yes, he's tough, but he's generally controllable. The cyber mancubus, on the other hand...
@livirus3826
@livirus3826 3 жыл бұрын
SSG blast and blood punch instantly staggers them. Ice bomb, meathook-SSG and blood punch kills them instantly. I think they're easier to deal with than regular Mancubi tbh
@multiwaypche6640
@multiwaypche6640 3 жыл бұрын
@@livirus3826 blood punch hit reg is a thing but it's gonna be fixed later
@Balagnugnes
@Balagnugnes 3 жыл бұрын
I went up a launch pad in urdak on un and instantly got hit by a cybers ground pound
@livirus3826
@livirus3826 3 жыл бұрын
@@multiwaypche6640 that's true, but that's why I recommend SSG blasting before BP. If BP fails, you'll be hit with that annoying ground pound attack. With SSG, you have a split second to dash away, or activate your chaingun shield if you can switch to it fast enough
@thebigboi5357
@thebigboi5357 3 жыл бұрын
Even though they have an easy counter of ice bomb or blood punch, cyber mancubuses (mancubi?) are still my least favorite enemy in the game. But, if there's anything doom eternal has taught me, it's that once I git gud, I love fighting a demon I once hated.
@kyrilevangelista6687
@kyrilevangelista6687 3 жыл бұрын
"This (Exultia's Hell part of the map) area is S tier if you happen to be a gaming journalist" LMAO
@fourteen-vn9ir
@fourteen-vn9ir 3 жыл бұрын
Cries in Dean Takahashi
@beanslinger2
@beanslinger2 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why everyone says Revenants are trash... I find that their dashing melee will completely destroy you if you aren't careful. Hell knights are slow and easy to take out with Micro Missiles and Sticky Bombs. I would swap the Hell Knight's and the Revenant's positions on the Exultia tier list.
@DanielFlores-tl5vu
@DanielFlores-tl5vu 2 жыл бұрын
Bro that attack sucks. Just back pedal and SSG those fools
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 2 жыл бұрын
For me Arch-Viles will be S tier, their summoning, knockback, teleportation, shield and high health makes them the most dangerous of the non boss Super heavies of the game, and I HATE them with all my blood
@raps9596
@raps9596 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroelluxray5298 *laughs in crucible and BFG*
@dshaprin
@dshaprin 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroelluxray5298 Ice grenade, 2x triple rocket - gone.
@zachherman5659
@zachherman5659 3 жыл бұрын
Yall are here beating ultra nightmare while I'm struggling to get through hurt me plenty
@MykeGG
@MykeGG 2 жыл бұрын
Relatable
@Sirbigaballs
@Sirbigaballs Жыл бұрын
Yall hear struggling in hurt me plenty while im struggling to live
@Tha-mountain
@Tha-mountain Жыл бұрын
​@@Sirbigaballs him?
@Br0leg
@Br0leg 3 жыл бұрын
LETS FKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@azzyasbourne9107
@azzyasbourne9107 3 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck, Br0leg
@okoof1487
@okoof1487 3 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck, Br0leg
@astrallites
@astrallites 3 жыл бұрын
PAPA OLEG
@fabricatorzayac
@fabricatorzayac 3 жыл бұрын
Добрий вечір!
@gayahhbihh
@gayahhbihh 3 жыл бұрын
*P E N D E J O*
@AidenToon
@AidenToon 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you use the figures of the demons for the chart.
@multiwaypche6640
@multiwaypche6640 3 жыл бұрын
*sad tentacles*
@lineriderrulz
@lineriderrulz 3 жыл бұрын
@@multiwaypche6640 You could easily get the wrong impression if there were a tentacle toy...
@multiwaypche6640
@multiwaypche6640 3 жыл бұрын
@@lineriderrulz and that's why there's no tentacle toys, especially those big mojo, cus it will look like Moby huges, man Penguinz0 would have been proud
@mts9266
@mts9266 3 жыл бұрын
@@lineriderrulz lol there would have been r34 of that woman in the recordings
@enchilordo8562
@enchilordo8562 3 жыл бұрын
13:46 “Don’t panic, just make sure you don’t die” gee thanks
@sirshitassingtoniii9944
@sirshitassingtoniii9944 3 жыл бұрын
Doom eternal In America Tentacle: tier f Doom eternal in Japan: Tentacle: Ss tier
@pastafazul7429
@pastafazul7429 2 жыл бұрын
don't you mean xx tier
@thegoblininthecorner4135
@thegoblininthecorner4135 2 жыл бұрын
😳
@juan-xk2yk
@juan-xk2yk 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god no
@ggabey14
@ggabey14 2 жыл бұрын
sus
@facu3244
@facu3244 2 жыл бұрын
@@Null_Knight You ruined a good joke
@XzMondayNightzX
@XzMondayNightzX 3 жыл бұрын
I like how decino does these ranking videos. Instead of talking about a single enemy and giving them a general rank he covers their entire annoying existence throughout the game and rates them per level. I also like how there are no chain gunners on this list. They haven't been invited to the party this time since they ruin everything.
@rhythmmmmm.
@rhythmmmmm. 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait til the next DLC
@dualtronix4438
@dualtronix4438 3 жыл бұрын
Ancient Gods Part 2 Final Boss: The Dark Lord spawns 5 possesed Chaingunners
@Gemidori
@Gemidori 3 жыл бұрын
@@dualtronix4438 The Dark Lord puts on his own Praetor Suit and it turns out to have a chaingun He is the Chaingunner king
@XzMondayNightzX
@XzMondayNightzX 3 жыл бұрын
​@ICON OF SIN They look like total bastards. They're also bringing in Nightmare imps too which I hope are not just more annoying prowler likes. I hate prowlers. They're next on my shit list.
@SoldierOfFate
@SoldierOfFate 3 жыл бұрын
Doom Eternal: The Plutonia Experiment Exclusively features classic Chaingunners, all with the mobile turret configuration. Hitscan included to make you relive your deepest nightmares from Final Doom.
@crimsonsmoke
@crimsonsmoke 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Decino (and Peter) - hope you’ve had a relaxing Christmas and wishing you all the best for the new year! :)
@Theawesomenessbrothers
@Theawesomenessbrothers 3 жыл бұрын
With a good ol combat candy Weapon- combat candy Stat: bleeding blindness shotgun
@IsThatAHomestuckRef
@IsThatAHomestuckRef 3 жыл бұрын
But honestly guys I think we all know what’s the REAL SS Tier threat “NO TARGET”
@arealgamer342
@arealgamer342 3 жыл бұрын
What's worse is when you run low on health and ammo, run up to a demon, get the chainsaw pulled off only to be greeted with "INVALID TARGET".
@sunlessfiber5106
@sunlessfiber5106 2 жыл бұрын
@@arealgamer342 when you think the prowler is an imp
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 2 жыл бұрын
That almost always happens to me for being kind of a Stormtrooper with the Chainsaw
@JettJamesGD
@JettJamesGD 2 жыл бұрын
Fr tho, why is the failed chainsaw animation unskippable? I press the free ammo button, and instead I’m swinging a chainsaw in the air for a full second. Might as well be a demon punching bag. :(
@chickenburger.
@chickenburger. 2 жыл бұрын
@@arealgamer342 or No fuel
@gr3yhem
@gr3yhem 3 жыл бұрын
“Heck on earth..” My favorite bootleg.
@MrTastyNacho
@MrTastyNacho 3 жыл бұрын
- decino releases doom eternal tier video - id still balance patching doom eternal - sees chaingun shield bullying pinkies - patch 6.432.24234343 : removed chaingun shield thank you for your service to humanity ducino
@johnspartan2096
@johnspartan2096 3 жыл бұрын
There is Alot of video and a lot of doom content creator that highlight chaingun shield but at this very moment ID are still focus on how to nerf ice bomb.Also keep in mind ID isn't the kind of studio who nerf thing, they are more encline to create new ennemies who nullify those weapon advantages (kinda like the spirited demons against ice bomb) and there is alot of chances to see a return of the chaingunner in AG part 2.
@impreriarirf7866
@impreriarirf7866 3 жыл бұрын
Did that happen?
@SoulKiller7Eternal
@SoulKiller7Eternal 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, then you got players like who don't ever use the shield. At all. Equip Mobile Turret - have fun by chewing through enemies, chainsaw a bullet pinata and keep up the pain.
@johnspartan2096
@johnspartan2096 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoulKiller7Eternal mobile turret is so satisfying to use. But for ultra nightmare shield is just too OP.
@fistfulofswoon
@fistfulofswoon 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoulKiller7Eternal agreed brother, even super heavy enemy deamed "hard to kill" can't do shit agaisnt the Mobile turret, most satisfying weapon mod on the game? I definitely think so
@StrangeDaysGaming
@StrangeDaysGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Decino and Peter are actually the same guy just doing different voices.
@Tarles_X
@Tarles_X 3 жыл бұрын
to the people who doesnt understand anything: just survive in the maximun difficult and DONT DIE!
@InkyBoiArts
@InkyBoiArts 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine bullying a giant meaty bipedal sabertooth doggo with a cyber-shield on a minigun whilst fighting your way through a damned city filled with demons-
@XTeMe_dEw1453
@XTeMe_dEw1453 3 жыл бұрын
sounds fun
@mollywantshugs5944
@mollywantshugs5944 2 жыл бұрын
Strangely specific but I’m on board
@yoboikamil525
@yoboikamil525 2 жыл бұрын
wat
@doom4life451
@doom4life451 3 жыл бұрын
Decino-claus is here with the yellow background christmas gift.
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 3 жыл бұрын
Made my morning.
@a1s972
@a1s972 3 жыл бұрын
“Against aaAaAlLlL the evillll....” is ss tier cuz it KILLS your motivation :D
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT 3 жыл бұрын
Another is how long the damn battery animation is. A proper ball ache it is to sit through all that.
@Mukawakadoodoo
@Mukawakadoodoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterLawrenceYT omg yes. I understand having an animation for it the first time, but did they really have to do it every. Single. Time?
@ArcturusOTE
@ArcturusOTE 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mukawakadoodoo Is there an option to disable pick up animations for repeat playthroughs?
@Mukawakadoodoo
@Mukawakadoodoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArcturusOTE I don’t know honestly
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 3 жыл бұрын
Switch weapons while picking the batteries to skip the animation
@viperr.6
@viperr.6 3 жыл бұрын
why does peter always sound like he's smiling
@istvanvincze7411
@istvanvincze7411 3 жыл бұрын
After beating everything in UN, I actually disagree with almost all of the placements in the list. I find that you underrated or overrated certain enemies a bit. But that is the beauty of the game, I think. Those who say you can't have creativity in it don't know what they are talking about. This video right here shows that you can have differing playstyles, and still beat UN.
@riskygirraffe3433
@riskygirraffe3433 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's because he used cheese strats the entire game
@HexenStar
@HexenStar 9 ай бұрын
@@riskygirraffe3433 There is no such thing as "cheese strats". If the developer was naive (or incompetent) enough to leave an opening, it will be exploited.
@nbanextlegend7497
@nbanextlegend7497 3 жыл бұрын
4:25 Poor,poor Dean Takahashi,he has dashing PTSD from 2 very specific games...
@n00f
@n00f 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how new strats like shield bullying affected the rankings. Waiting on this was wise. Tier D.
@morinor1340
@morinor1340 3 жыл бұрын
Not exactly a new strat, chaingun shield has behaved like this since launch.
@n00f
@n00f 3 жыл бұрын
@@morinor1340 new strategy. As in, people weren't really charging with the shield like this when the game launched. decino didn't in his UNM run, for instance, but it's clearly more common now as a default strategy for UNM.
@morinor1340
@morinor1340 3 жыл бұрын
@@n00f i suppose its more popular now that its been brought up by peter & ducino. But people definitely have been using the shield way before that. And even now shieldbullying isnt that much of a important strat for UNM runners since its slower than PB combos.
@h20v
@h20v 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why but "ft. Peter" is the funniest thing I've heared all day.
@__8120
@__8120 2 жыл бұрын
I remember even playing through the final parts of horde mode, whenever I saw a shotgunner I prioritized them over all else even if there was a marauder or tyrant around
@dustyrust36
@dustyrust36 Жыл бұрын
Decino is an absolute Chad still hearting comments
@VoanHead
@VoanHead 3 жыл бұрын
32:31 Oh dear, what did he just say?!
@ivyhealthcare5688
@ivyhealthcare5688 3 жыл бұрын
Mon petit pogchamp?
@alex940127
@alex940127 3 жыл бұрын
Arachnotron: It's over Doomslayer, i have the high ground! Doomslayer: ... *Arachnotron achieved "Stay alive more than 6 seconds"
@_Ballexander
@_Ballexander 8 ай бұрын
4:24 "This arena is s tier if you happen to be a game journalist". This a very funny reference to Dean Takashi, the same guy from the cuphead tutorial.
@rohitchaoji
@rohitchaoji 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Cyber Mancubus should be at least Tier B due to the random pools of acid they leave around, waiting for distracted players to just walk into it. They also appear in busy encounters so if you did not notice one spawn in, it can quickly become a major pain.
@xtervendetta9796
@xtervendetta9796 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Peter sounds sick in this one. Take care of yourself okay.
@fruitylerlups530
@fruitylerlups530 3 жыл бұрын
Hes sick but in the limb bizkit way
@spimpsmacker6422
@spimpsmacker6422 3 жыл бұрын
20:05 Lmao I felt so damn blue balled when I found out that wasn't apart of the game.
@Nailfut
@Nailfut 3 жыл бұрын
23:30 "after some Half-Life 2 puzzles" So I wasn't the only one thinking that
@GhostofFarta
@GhostofFarta 2 жыл бұрын
At 20:19, you can actually skip this fight by going to a spot on the back of the exit portal, it will teleport you without requiring you to complete the fight. Don't rely on this however, sometimes it may bug out and show you teleporting but you'll just stay in the same place. Edit: With the release of the Mars Core Master Level, this has been patched.
@Sizifus
@Sizifus 3 жыл бұрын
6:06 Yep, learned that one the hard way. Just before entering Nekravol, decided to warm up in the Ripatorium... Didn't go so well
@knucklesfan463
@knucklesfan463 3 жыл бұрын
S N E K Also, shotgunners really redeemed themselves considering the lack of threat in 2016.
@rhythmmmmm.
@rhythmmmmm. 3 жыл бұрын
They were annoying as hell back in 2016 too tbh
@Gemidori
@Gemidori 3 жыл бұрын
Revenants on the other hand, have yet to think forward
@SeriousGranade
@SeriousGranade 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhythmmmmm. 2016 shotgunners only really got dangerous if you let them sneak up on you in later levels. Other than hat they're pretty much chainsaw and stun bomb bait
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck Sneks, one of the demons I HATE the most next to Arch-vile
@sirhamster612
@sirhamster612 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't panic. Just make sure you don't die."
@maxastro
@maxastro 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video since Eternal came out, super happy to see it! My only nitpick is that you put Archviles in B tier, but you also make a point of saying to kill them as soon as they show up and use very valuable resources (Crucible) on them. Seems like an enemy that deserves your full attention should be A tier, even if the game does give you resources to kill them quickly. :)
@naryanr
@naryanr 3 жыл бұрын
19:36 Putting the “demon” in demonitised.
@Pain_Eternal
@Pain_Eternal 3 жыл бұрын
(NO TARGET) and Blood punch failing to activate, instant SS.
@fistfulofswoon
@fistfulofswoon 3 жыл бұрын
oh, the pain
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 3 жыл бұрын
Never had that problem, does that happen often in PC?
@Pain_Eternal
@Pain_Eternal 3 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroelluxray5298 yes
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pain_Eternal Well that explains it, I play in Xbox One
@THERATSANDTHERATS
@THERATSANDTHERATS 3 жыл бұрын
Got Doom eternal recently and its been a blast, thank you for getting me into this amazing series! And also my first playthrough is on Ultra Violence I've been LOVING IT
@flexhard7799
@flexhard7799 2 ай бұрын
beat this finally last week. feel so certified now. thank u Decino & Peter for the tips =) as well as all the fantastic Doom content throughout the years. I personally was more scared of Khan Maykr than Gladiator & Icon during my run, but tier list has been on point. Prowlers are well placed here, hate those frickers.
@SOCMMOB
@SOCMMOB 3 жыл бұрын
My first play through: every enemy is SS Rank.
@TheNethIafin
@TheNethIafin 3 жыл бұрын
So what you are saying is that if I invent a drink called "BFG", I can get "BFG shot" every time you say "free BFG shot" and get hammered?
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I’d have one.
@doomslayer_ch4280
@doomslayer_ch4280 3 жыл бұрын
its just a gallon of gin called "big fucking gin"
@thecacodemon9260
@thecacodemon9260 3 жыл бұрын
@@doomslayer_ch4280 Laced with a BFG-based Argent Energy solution. Way more rad than Nuka-Cola and all their variants
@brittanybecker170
@brittanybecker170 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecacodemon9260 , I choose to believe 'rad' stands for radio active. It fits both games.
@thecacodemon9260
@thecacodemon9260 3 жыл бұрын
@@brittanybecker170 True. What we can acknowledge is that the BFG is Argent-Energy rad
@Lopson04
@Lopson04 3 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video. Really well done. I hope to see more like this in the future :).
@jamesreid9284
@jamesreid9284 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the first time that two monsters have shared the Tier SS spot! Also, I love how you shoot footage of the topic at hand; ergo, the pacifist runs showing you trying not to kill monsters, the tier lists being very on-point on a moment-to-moment basis, showing exactly what each power-up does, etc. If I ever end up doing video game reviews, I'm going to use your analysis videos as my inspiration!
@LemonGingerHoney
@LemonGingerHoney 3 жыл бұрын
Peter: - Yeah, there is stuff to do, just watch out, dodge and kill. decino: - git gud scrubs.
@SonicMaster519
@SonicMaster519 Жыл бұрын
Peter: Take this specific path in order to grab this power up, then make sure to prioritize the Caco that will fly towards you. Make sure to have enough ammo before the next fight, and focus on dodging. Decino: just kill them lol
@Fleerix
@Fleerix 3 жыл бұрын
"Shotgunners take your healt quick like interest in playing doom 3" oh buuuurn
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 3 жыл бұрын
What can I say, Doom 3 is pretty okay for what it is, but it is not a boomer shooter and decino plain and simple doesn't do slower-paced games.
@fruitylerlups530
@fruitylerlups530 3 жыл бұрын
@@DinnerForkTongue doom eternal is not a boomer shooter neither
@valletas
@valletas 3 жыл бұрын
@@fruitylerlups530 i disagree Its fast has secrets you can hold a bunch of weapons and you need to manage health and ammo way more then other fps games Also no reloading even though that doesnt define the genre Its a retro fps in everything but year it was released
@Fleerix
@Fleerix 3 жыл бұрын
Doom 3 bad
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 3 жыл бұрын
@@fruitylerlups530 It absolutely is a boomer shooter, for the reasons Victor specified.
@danielbrovender2932
@danielbrovender2932 3 жыл бұрын
I found it funny you upgraded the tyrant to tier D in Nekrovol part 2 because if you ice bomb right as the fight starts he will just straight up fall to his death Great video though! Was looking forward to it for a while now and you did not disappoint!
@skettismyname
@skettismyname 3 жыл бұрын
I seriously love this channel. Fantastic work.
@FriendlyKillbot
@FriendlyKillbot 3 жыл бұрын
Arena Mancubus fight in Cultist Base, you can get on that slightly raised platform in the middle, and just jump out, pop a mancubus, and dash back onto the raised platform. You can easily defeat them this way if you didn't save chainsaw gas, just be quick because if they get into position to shoot you while you're on there you need to get down, but in my UNM attempts this never happened.
@rhythmmmmm.
@rhythmmmmm. 3 жыл бұрын
I always icebombed one, and queballed the other.
@alexhernandez9697
@alexhernandez9697 3 жыл бұрын
My god a real nightmare awaits me In that difficulty, and i am playing on switch. Oh well, time to rip and tear.
@neppyneppynepu
@neppyneppynepu 3 жыл бұрын
Ill see you in that same hell The switch isn't the best to play it on but it works fine, honestly its underappreciated how well it runs eternal
@OldBehexendoom
@OldBehexendoom 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck bro!
@ttty2242
@ttty2242 3 жыл бұрын
rip and tear the console apart
@ammanus356
@ammanus356 2 жыл бұрын
@@neppyneppynepu what, 22fps average lmao?
@neppyneppynepu
@neppyneppynepu 2 жыл бұрын
@@ammanus356 ah i see you're the toxic part of the doom community. The frame rate elitist. First off, outside of cutscenes its a stable 30fps, and secondly, we really don't need people like you in the community, so do us all a favor, a kindly fuck off
@frankiegloria8994
@frankiegloria8994 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks decino and Peter. I just got Doom Eternal last week and instantly fell in love with the game. I tried ultra nightmare and completed it today thanks to your guide. It reminded me to use ice bombs, crucible, and blood punch on heavy demons. Using the machine gun’s shield to bully was something new that helped a lot. 🤘🏻Rock on
@Brick_Eater_
@Brick_Eater_ 3 жыл бұрын
1:25 He had so many voice cracks you could mistake him for a 13 year old.
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 3 жыл бұрын
his voice was more scratchy than pitch cracking
@terrytrollface
@terrytrollface 3 жыл бұрын
They'll die faster than your interest to play doom 3 Me: Stop! Stop! They're already dead! 😭
@cinemation4515
@cinemation4515 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about asking you when you were going to make the Doom Eternal tier list and here it is.
@foxbonesmulder
@foxbonesmulder 2 жыл бұрын
These videos always bring a Tier to my eye, beautiful work
@rickyballs4073
@rickyballs4073 3 жыл бұрын
Omg finally bro great video! I foudn ur channel from the doom 2016 tier list and loved your channel since. Keep going!
@dominickchuka5387
@dominickchuka5387 3 жыл бұрын
“Your health will disappear faster than my interest in playing Doom 3.” Lol
@user-DrKritz115
@user-DrKritz115 3 жыл бұрын
Another youtuber hating doom 3 for no good reason. Count me surprised
@dominickchuka5387
@dominickchuka5387 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-DrKritz115 Well there are good reasons to hate doom 3, I can understand not liking it
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 2 жыл бұрын
Atleast DOOM 3 have cool original Monsters like the Bruiser, whish they bring them back
@dominickchuka5387
@dominickchuka5387 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroelluxray5298 Maybe, I tried playing doom 3 and it didn’t feel like a doom game to me
@zoolapin
@zoolapin 3 жыл бұрын
the ultimate 2020 decino tier list! recommended for game journalist! (if you get hit by tentacles you deserve it)
@lord-godzilla5486
@lord-godzilla5486 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Decino, was waiting 4 this
@vicbrava2410
@vicbrava2410 3 жыл бұрын
This exact kind of quickshot notes of the game's levels and specific encounters is exactly how I beat Ultra-Nightmare myself. I played each level on Nightmare on a separate save file taking notes about each thing I thought was important to know about a fight, and then repeating that run again on my Ultra-Nightmare file. It's so cool seeing other people's notes on this game.
@Blappyboop
@Blappyboop 3 жыл бұрын
Is sad how pitiful the imp got in doom eternal, they were one of the most scary demons in doom 2016 ;^;
@sonsoyeah760
@sonsoyeah760 3 жыл бұрын
7:43 I love how The Pit from Doom 2 is playing in the background
@VVVaire
@VVVaire 2 жыл бұрын
very entertaining and informative stuff even after playing the game for so long tbh, hopefully we might see something like this with the dlcs factored in at some point
@booman727
@booman727 3 жыл бұрын
9:53 decino DID NOT just diss Doom 3 like that.
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes he did XD Also F for all of the special demons in DOOM 3 should they ever return in Eternal, they are not ready for THIS kind of torture
@T-West
@T-West 3 жыл бұрын
The most annoying enemy for me were those mecha-zombies that keep spawning and distracting from the other demons.
@aceskeletonne7446
@aceskeletonne7446 3 жыл бұрын
Mecha Zombies are dangerous to me because it feels like they take slightly too much damage for a fodder enemy
@deceseze
@deceseze 3 жыл бұрын
half of the marauder fights have a billion mecha zombies spawning infinitely around him, shooting directly at him, making him bring up his shield and dragging the fight for longer than it should and i HATE IT
@rhythmmmmm.
@rhythmmmmm. 3 жыл бұрын
They deserve to go up a tier SOLELY because they piss off the marauders and trigger the wolf summon and shield.
@emptytrashben2375
@emptytrashben2375 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never, in all my days, seem a tier list taken seriously. It’s often a troll or not well thought out.
@yasurething5417
@yasurething5417 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most well put together tier list I’ve ever seen.
@krackkorn1952
@krackkorn1952 3 жыл бұрын
yall have no clue how long iv been waiting for this
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