Leagues 5 Raging Reveals #9 - Combat Masteries!

[@doubleshine]

Pretty sure I got the math wrong on Ranged Weapons (after 3 trailblazers you'd think i'd learn) but Tbow and ZCB should be only 4tick with the 80% speed not 3 tick.

[@Oreoomar92]

Thanks leagues dad

[@Stoff_Rocks_Packs]

is bp 100% 1 tick at tier 3?

[@dw9062]

​@Stoff_Rocks_Packs it rounds down, so 80% of 2 is 1.6 which rounds to 1.

[@Stoff_Rocks_Packs]

@@dw9062 cheers

[@matmercer]

@@Stoff_Rocks_Packs no i dont think it is, 80% of 2 ticks is 1.6 not enough to pass the rounding down mark of 1.5 ticks, i think this is intentionally 20% not 25% for this reason.

[@That-Albino-Kid]

ive got something raging with this info

[@Zachmunzter]

Idk if you can reveal that on KZbin.

[@playsboy4756]

Ayooo

[@m1tch_l]

Peanitz.

[@christianvigers2697]

Help

[@SuperKinahead]

Iv got a raging clue and its pointing over there.

[@Ffancrzy]

They confirmed you can complete the Combat Mastery Tasks in any order

[@xxwhothat7847]

I’ll go ZUK first then

[@michaeldyer7893]

Reverse Task order run when? lol

[@brendenhubert1992]

@@xxwhothat7847you mean 10 100+ cmb monsters first, then jad 2nd because we need a cheese cape before we get our precious cape back

[@brendenhubert1992]

@@xxwhothat7847but yea I was thinking range 3, getting rune cbow and strait to jad/zuk

[@g.waits4gainz205]

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[@gxhost]

Never miss with ranged? Vardorvis, I'm coming back with a vengeance. This time with a machine gun.

[@theroguenetwork1083]

A SNIPER Machine Gun

[@terrysimms1790]

New blowpipe would be 1 tick right? Sick

[@The88shrimp]

@@terrysimms1790 Not only that, it would be 1t even at T3 due to rounding down.

[@KlarmsTV]

IVE BEEN REFRESHING YOUR CHANNEL SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO

[@Cofreshi]

literally waiting since the reveal

[@charlesjtwhite]

Fr

[@UILazarus]

Just realised with tier 6 range, you can just wear anything and still have 100% accuracy. Full torva + atlatal is gonna be smacking like crazy

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Woah, that's super cool.

[@jawstrock2215]

yeah, no more range gear required! but you need 6 mastery in range...

[@dankmemer1305]

Also justiciar blowpipe makes you tanky af

[@jonesen4395]

Use 2t or 5t stuff with tier 6 range, atlatl and shortbows are quite bad because only go from 3t to 2t. At tier 3+ darts/bp become super good and at tier 5+ the 5 tick weapons (crossbows and tbow) become very efficient

[@newdad280]

Honestly, this is the most helpful channel for leagues 5 by far. Thank you King

[@kush4jesus]

Your analysis on these masteries is so much more in depth than any other channel I've watched today. Appreciate it so much!

[@Tsumetaiyoru]

My beloved dark bow. I never gave up on you.

[@SomeGuy-d1e]

A benefit of taking the T1 Magic mastery, if Varlamore is one of your regions, is that since you always max hit on the Fremmy Berserker, you'll always hit 150% damage on it, so if your normal max hit is at least 32 (which can be the case with a trident or sang staff), you'll hit the required 48 damage to oneshot the berserker every time, no shadow needed.

[@typhfab]

the cool thing about mage t2 is that it means your first attack on something (assuming it's been 8 ticks since your last attack) gets a 40% bonus. combined with t1 and t6, you can get a guaranteed 190% max-hit one-shot, which is pretty fun

[@nefereous9082]

Slayer training will be so chill

[@tontee93]

Tier 6 range and you never have to gear swap. Can't miss. At least always hitting 30% of max hit.

[@Jacksin24]

I hadn’t even thought about the fact that you can range something with 1000 range defense and still hit

[@kenshin1368]

Still might be some things immune to range damage, especially in raids

[@Jordan-dg8tp]

@@kenshin1368 idk though, because some things just have incredible defense or prayer. But because of the 60% pray penetration, you still "hit" and still get the damage.

[@Konstantin-tu8lj]

im thinking full tank with blowpipe heal 5 health every 5 ticks and never miss

[@UIM_Moose]

​@Konstantin-tu8lj so true, range attack doesn't matter anymore :p

[@SHIN0-0-0-0]

I was planning on going full melee this leagues, went mage last time. Now thinking t6 for range and 4 in melee is the way I'm going

[@REMINISC3NT116]

mage getting absolutely shat on

[@jonesen4395]

Join the VFM justi rangers brother

[@Skele_RS]

I wouldn't be surprised if prayer penetration means echo bosses have a prayer mechanic

[@jetsonone1]

100% think so, there are a lot of regions where the penetration does pretty much nothing otherwise.

[@LimpurtFan6969]

Yes esp with the masteries letting you lean into offstyles

[@domatdom]

did they mention what prayer penetration meant? does it mean u hit through prayer 60% of the time or u only do 60% damage through prayer?

[@Skele_RS]

@domatdom i have not heard any specifics, it could be 100% for all i know, but I haven't looked too much

[@The88shrimp]

@@domatdom Fairly certain it would mean only dealing 60% of the damage, otherwise T6 range would be absolutely rediculous.

[@Goofse]

With blowpipe hitting every tick... - The 4th tier in range gives a +5 hp every 5 ticks - The passive in T2 makes it a +6 hp every 5 ticks - If you have the sol echo gloves, it turns it into +12 hp every 5 ticks / 3 seconds... Blowpipe healing machine goes brrrrt

[@nefereous9082]

That's crazy but would be nice if you could get it before taking on coleseum and awakened coleseum.

[@bamf6603]

@@nefereous9082why

[@nefereous9082]

@@bamf6603 the healing helps most in the challenging content and awakened sol is the biggest challenge in the league. A bit unfortunate not to get to use the bracers for the grind.

[@iZaners]

I'd say 95-98% of the people who are going range have absolutely 0 clue how to do colo

[@Zekei1234]

Gloves are additive so it should be +120%, meaning 11 hp instead of 12

[@Guilherme78M]

Man we will need a video about best possible builds for each style with all these masteries, and we will still have one tier of combat relics to see

[@Randomii666]

My original plan before the league was even announced was to go with range build and finally start to learn inferno, as i've never even been there before. This was pretty much perfect for me. Especially as i wanted to go to the desert as well and have mage as a sort of backup. Quite a pleasant surprise that beating inferno was one of the challenges

[@DraconicAbyss]

Same. Plus all these passives will make learning super easy I think. Going to be my main priority and if it all goes well, going to also learn coliseum.

[@sjcodan]

With the max ranged relic, you can actually go full justiciar, shield, and throw darts by hand, and never miss. Drygore doesn't seem to add any ranged strength, so it actually performs the same as just chucking them by hand.

[@Vespolar]

+10 ranged str on Drygore when you add darts to it. still weaker than BP by Drygore has a longer range

[@ApexGale]

​@@Vespolarits only weaker by like 1 damage on max hit, if you sub out desert for tirannwn. yeah toxic blowpipe is +20 ranged str where desert is only +10, but you give up masori's +8. basically desert setup (dfa) would give +18 where tirannwn setup (tfa) is +20 with arma as your bis. it's utterly negligible. people also need to remember that "will never miss" is not the same as "will never hit 0." you can roll a successful hit and have that hit deal 0 damage - drygore blowpipe makes it so you the chances of that happening are basically impossible.

[@Vespolar]

@ApexGale they changed it to where if you roll a hit you will always do at least 1 damage. They updated that a little bit ago

[@billyferguson2167]

@@ApexGaledid we forget about ranged tier 1?

[@igorgusenko9110]

@@ApexGale you always gonna hit atleast 30% of the damage with range because of the t1

[@terbin4487]

My instant thought for the 10 monsters was Tzhaar Ket’s with water spells

[@jameskamerman392]

They don't have water weakness as far as I can see

[@zackmash851]

blue dragons/lava dragons will be easy for a lot of regions picked since they're safe spottable and you want the bones regardless

[@krikkeyou93]

​@@zackmash851 they're even in the starter area in isle of souls dungeon!

[@socialanarchy7682]

this leagues is shaping to be great, thanks for the videos as always. also as someone who doesn't think they'll complete zuk, it's nice that i can max my prefered style and a few other upgrades without having to do it

[@TheMerzerker]

Agreed. I doubt I’ll even be able to kill all 3 echos tbh.

[@socialanarchy7682]

@@TheMerzerker i thought about that, but mine thankfully is guardians cerb and dk's so hopefully the dk's isnt too hard

[@pallettown3358]

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

[@zebbulin]

For the magic t2 buff, I was kinda thinking maybe it counted the ticks only between your last magic attack, so for example if you were doing like the Nylo boss in TOB, you attack with magic, swap to range, swap to melee, and by the time you're back to another magic attack, its been 8 ticks and your magic hit will get the 40%? I'm not sure, but thats the only thing I can think of that would make that buff actually useful.

[@Zeroyue622]

You don't have to do tasks in order, and yes they are locked in after you choose them.

[@ekim613]

not a fan of the lock in. should be able to swap them around in a bank

[@Infiniteimpossibilty]

That literally defeats the purpose of leagues. The point is to make decisions on what areas to unlock, what combat style to specialize in, what relics to unlock, what fits best with your build, if you could swap em at the bank then theres no choice. You functionally have all of them.

[@ekim613]

@@Infiniteimpossibilty thats right, we should funtionally have all of them as we did in shattered relics. your name checks out

[@zackmash851]

@@ekim613 yeah lets make this leagues more like the extremely stale and much less successful version they tried instead of the wildly popular and more successful ones

[@ekim613]

@@zackmash851 did u even play other leagues? having the whole game open and vareity relics was the best.

[@RitzStarr]

The T2 magic trait most likely means waiting inbetween attacks. So if you stop to juke an attack you'll probably re-engage with a +40% damage boost.

[@miciso666]

Prob really good if u entangle in between etc or like me spec melee. Then mage nuke 😅

[@-ZH]

The mage route feels like it’s anti-synergy with itself and the ranged route (tier 6) feels anti-synergy with it’s echo item

[@oturukira3182]

I think I'm now going TMF. With T alone you get an amazing melee + range setup, and I think range gets a lot of its power from just getting to t3 mastery. Can fully max out melee mastery while still getting full crystal with 3t bowfa and a 1t blowpipe. M gives you full ahrims, glove slot for all styles, plus late game content with ToB. Can also mess around with Dharoks, which looks ridiculous if you can stay at 1hp (got 797 max hit in dps calc with the t6 mastery. 1/400,000 chance but still ridiculous). The last region is pretty much open to whatever you want to pick, as you will already have an insane setup for Melee+Range. Combined with t6 passive, there shouldn't be anywhere you would really need mage I can think of, so can pick Fremmy for the insane Jewellery, Asgrania to round out boots + dogsword for a spec weapon, or Desert for TOA + 1t drygore. Gotta say, they did an epic job with this. Loving the customisability of these. I've been thinking about this for 5 hours straight, and I know there is so much I've missed when it comes to obscure bits of content like random 6t weapons, or what you can do with 100% accuracy with range.

[@abyssalgodsword]

If you go Frem you get Virtus from Duke so Ahrims from M is kind of a waste at that point?

[@RayBros]

I think desert has better value with drygore + toa being so accessible in nearly all stages of gear progress over Mory and maybe Priff. Easy early fang + drygore bp.

[@maxoneil9198]

I think the sad part of the masteries is that you need tier 6 in at least 1 style for tier 6 passive as the echo bosses might have overheads?

[@Spoobley]

I imagine you’ll be able to kill echo bosses without the T6 overhead thing but I assume the T6 passive is to make the echo boss fights easier

[@sleepyzeph]

oh hey another sorta fun thing i realized; the demonbane staff's special attack has no attack delay and refunds spec bar if it kills. you can probably 1-tick instakill a bunch of demons with that plus max mage combat mastery.

[@Gearwik6027]

Hespori weapon is looking nuts! Zeah stonks to the moon!

[@DoctorSockrates]

Kourend Gun REAL!!

[@kenshin1368]

Yeah, I wonder if they actually coded it properly so it only gets the bonuses you have unlocked.

[@poro3246]

I think trybrid masteries is a bait. Double tier 5 may be legit. But at least it's a good weapon for the early game.

[@tobiasvikr472]

​@@poro3246 tier 1 magic is worth a pickup. 3/6/1 or 6/3/1 could be something. Depends on regions of course

[@jetsonone1]

@@kenshin1368 They did mention it will use the combat masteries of whatever attack style you use with the weapon.

[@HackersRUs]

I think it would make sense that you can complete these any order like tasks but they are listed in perceived difficulty

[@dubudubu2442]

at 21:30, where are you getting a 2 tick harm staff? 80% of 4 is 3.2 which would make it 3 tick

[@feathers7442]

I think this is the first leagues that you can just pick what content you wanna do, and go in without a plan. Then as you go, what gear and synergies just come along naturally as there is so many. This seems like the most balanced leagues ever because there is no bad combination or choices. There is always something you can do with a region/relic/cb mastery to compensate for what another region/relic doesn't have. Unironically those "random region/relic" playthroughs might actually be the most fun.

[@tmore3]

Just found your channel recently and been loving the daily vids. Earned a sub!

[@RevImpOwna]

Tier 1 passive saves runes and 'charges', do we think this includes scales for BP? I am scared I will be sitting at Zulrah all day instead of having fun if scales aren't included in this.

[@doubleshine]

fairly sure it should, I don't think scales were ever a problem before

[@bringmethanos420]

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!

[@ZaneShadowcast]

I think people are underrating T2/4 Mage as a hybrid splash. Think of it as every 3 attacks with your main 2 tick weapon, you get a mage cast at +%max hit that heals 1/10 casts. With frem jewellery that's a 48 max hit ice barrage you're just throwing out there. Even just T2 gives that without the heal, you're just going to stall without T3. Trident is smoother at 99 magic, but requires the swap. You only stall 1 tick. Cleanest is nature's reprisal. No swap, just one attack on mage every 4 attacks giving you a giant %40 dmg burst.

[@benmatrox0707]

It’s quite possible the echo hits on melee reduce by 50% per hit aswell. Like a 70 will echo hit a 35 and if the 35 echo hit procs again it will only hit a 17 and continue on like that

[@ThatCoconutGuy]

It's been confirmed in the discord that this is not the case

[@tobben27]

Nature's Reprisal with 6/3/1 is probably my route. But i'm thinking about getting the farming relic. i have to afk a ton this leagues, so any afk-relic is preferred.. so i won't have Piety... am i cooked or nah. Z/F/? are current region plans. Possibly T for Crystal gear?

[@donkeymoo1581]

Define afk. You are waiting on growing relic or not. It depends if you mean afk so much that you can have the game open but that is absolutely it you can't even take 3 mins than a farm run then sure but going melee main with no piety is just a meme. If you are going zeah (and are good enough to do raids for the prayers) then just go range or mage main instead if you want the farm relic. I will always argue the farm relic is the worst relic in league history though. Plus there is still a relic in that tier we don't know so your build with those regions and not wanting to take the prayers already is not the way imo.

[@playsboy4756]

Melee without piety is totally fine. Ultimate strength and reflexes are 15% and piety is 20% attack 23% strength. It's a 5% on attack which won't matter much cause everything is getting boosted accuracy. And 8% strength isn't that huge. If you were to max a 50, with ult strength it's a 58 and with piety it'd be a 62. Those 4 max hits you'll make up with all the other tiers working together. Going Z and F you're already getting arceus spellbook and lunar so grimoire you'd be choosing literally just for ancients and piety. With all the lifesteal/healing stuff ancients may not even be that necessary.

[@tobben27]

@@donkeymoo1581 AFK as in im moving to a different city, changing jobs and going on vacation with some mobile gameplay. I won't be able to do much on PC, some mobile, and i won't be able to be super efficient. If i can do some simple stuff while the game is farming and alching for me, thats perfect for me this time around. I could ofcouse just go range, but the echo melees just sound more fun. If i can log in, karamja fish for 25 minutes per click while alching and also farming, the value for me on that is a lot more than piety this time around.

[@donkeymoo1581]

@@tobben27 I guess sure nothing is "needed" in leagues but from how you speak you wont even be playing the league at all so is there really much point making a league account just to do a couple afk skills if you are so busy? Feel like if you are so far into the "I can't play at all so I need every single afk relic possible to even progress" you are kinda just fighting a unwinnable battle anyway lol. If I had that few time id just progress the main instead. I agree that the melee relic sounds the most fun it's what I am taking too but you are taking zones with almost zero benefit to melee at all wanting to skip piety in favour of major afking I just think it's a horrible plan. But if you don't care about power at all and just want fun then sure go for it but then you don't really need to be asking for advice if you already know the answer for your self.

[@donkeymoo1581]

@@playsboy4756 Why spread bs miss information lol. We have the entire of last leagues where people didn't take piety and didn't take ruinous prayers and they were the weakest pvmers by a mile. It's not just "a few more max hits" which is already the same as going from mid game gear to max strength gear in 1 prayer but you are over rating the accuracy gain from the passive so far. 2x accuracy is not carrying you to never hit 0s. If you are that delusional you must be beyond confused as to why the tier 6 of range is never miss if accuracy is just so perfect without any help. If you also read every single melee mastery you see they rely entirely on passing accuracy check as much as possible. Bonus dmg on every tier only when you hit first. It's not like mage where you either near max or you get nothing. Everything in the melee tree depends on you hitting. So mid to end game difference in melee strength gear in 1 prayer and the accuracy boost is flat out needed for anyone going tier 6 melee. You know there is a reason why sunfire and piety is more dps than max strength gear no prayer in the main game right. People don't understand how dps works in this game after 20 years and underestimate prayers so hard still in 2024 it's wild lol. The same people who couldn't understand why decimate was so much stronger than piety last leagues despite on paper only being 5% atk 4% strength more. He is also going golden god which means he has unlimited gold so can just buy all the cooked fish he needs making his harpoon choice worthless. Farming relics I have never taken because farm runs are literally 3 minutes in the limited patches you have and by the time you are last recall farming any boss that drops potions (which is most of them) grats you have unlimited pots without ever farming. Hard game. Every single on of his choices work against each other. He has one of the worst league plans possible and you are sitting here spreading bs "no you are fine champ you will be doing great with your set up" like stfu when you are that clueless lol. He can keep his afk set up if he needs it but go range or mage or you will be weak af and go mining because fishing does absolutely nothing for you with golden god. Google "osrs fish shop" and have fun with the unlimited gold and buying noted from unlimited stock shops. The game mode is for fun but there is a limit to how counterproductive your build can get before you are just flat out trolling and you are past that before we even have the rest of the reveals lol.

[@RawrasaurRS]

Is there any information for the zombie axe? If it’s unlocked from the base areas and doesn’t require Kandarin’s temple ikov requirement, it would be the BiS 1h weapon when paired with the 50% melee reduction.

[@Sparrowly1]

They confirmed drygore gets +10 range str when loaded with darts like how toxic BP gets +20. Early calcs seem to show that drygore with range mastery 3 is basically as good as it is with range mastery 6. It's disgusting DPS for only 3 points into range. You could then go 6 for melee and be covered in both styles fully.

[@-ZH]

Wait, is the route to go void knight armor now?

[@justswish9682]

Definitely going Varlamore, Kourend, and Fremmy. Just the eclipse gear alone with the non-echo drops and these masteries look to out-dps a max range without the masteries by a good margin (for context how powerful we'll be) and only give up masori, which seems a pretty negligible dps increase and negligible defense loss. Also, access to some fun endgame memes without a huge commitment with a speculative 207 max hit for the echo prayer special. Get to play around with nature's reprisal too. Although you do have to settle for some meh melee armor, but that's kinda fine all things considered.

[@jonesen4395]

Just in case you dont know, all mega rares are available from all raids so you can also get your tbow from D or M

[@justswish9682]

​@jonesen4395 yes, assuming that I get a drop I would swap to the huecotl hide with the t'bow to jump from the presumably 23dps to 44ish dps. Or I can remain flexible to do a mage setup instead of going ranged if I see something interesting with the coming relic reveals. I'm not too confident I can even acquire all of the top end gear and masteries so a flexible approach with a nice bossing ladder sounds good to me. I doubt I will be able to clear the inferno even with all the buffs, but I am gonna try to jump into as much of the content I haven't touched yet and have a little fun doing so.

[@Ventraeus]

I am super curious how the moons ranged set will be with the ranged masteries! Also for the Korend Echo Boss weapon, Nature's Reprisal, what do the attacks scale off of, or is it based on each individual skill level? Im not much of a numbers guy but is using Natures Reprisal with the Crystal Blessing a good idea? Lol

[@bamf6603]

No idea

[@thegrichel2049]

Been waiting for this one. HUGE impacts on my plans; really curious to see what people will cook up 😱

[@livetohelpothers8401]

Boy I got the best plan cooked of all time.

[@mainmith22]

Hey I think I saw someone on discord that the task don't have to be done in any specific order. Think they were just listing them from easiest to hardest.

[@terrysimms1790]

So DB would be a 4tick weapon firing dragon arrows with a max special around 108? (45 + 45) + 20%=108 on spec if timed right? Still seems weak compared to faster weapons.

[@Kai13216]

Do we know if special attacks that hit more than once will be able to echo hit multiple times per spec? I.e dds, claws, khopesh? If thats so, an upper limit of 36 hits in a single attack with dragon claws

[@Smurforama89]

I've never done CG. Or any of the raids. Do you think TW D/M/Zeah would be a good choice to learn CG for Crystal Armor + Bofa / Kopesh swap? It would give me ranged to learn Inferno and a fun melee swap for whichever raid I choose? I'm really sad I can't really pick Varla for hunters guild - especially because having to kill Sol for mastery point sounds scary 😅

[@Dannu-s3n]

Will the extra 30% damage from Ahrim's set let you proc t1 and t4 more often? I doubt it will work like that but it could be op

[@AscendantExile]

hmm so dark bow is 4 tick with tier 5 range mastery which is technically 2 tick since its firing 2 arrows per attack? might play around with picking out combat masteries and regions to put together a meme-ish dark bow build because that sounds fun

[@8th_Eighth]

Great video man, and the google sheet is super helpful :)

[@Ricardo_Rick]

I have a question: does the 20% more healing also works on the relic effects? for example, will they 5hp heal in ranged go up to 6hp? did anyone said something like that?

[@brentmabey3181]

I'm set on Varlamore as my first region, so i thought i would take melee no matter what, but now my plans are in shambles as i think about ranged: taking down jad with hunter gear (2 tick crossbow, moonlight moths, antelope meat), blasting down huey tails with a 100% accurate 1 tick blowpipe that keeps my health topped off, being able to even land a shot on sol/vardorvis... I'm a wreck 😭

[@linguotgr]

I know this is shaking up peoples plans, but honestly it solidifies what i wanted to do all along. I wanted to go range, range here is insane. I wanted the Dogsword, this lets me get a 4-tick dogsword. Im actually kinda shocked how much this plays in to what i wanted from the start.

[@arweedsavu]

This is your year bro! My region/combat style choices & preferences also get more amazing by the day 🔥

[@codymarengo6818]

love seeing someone else as hyped!

[@reshootnz]

Finally!!! Let’s go, been waiting for this ☺️

[@Cnelson720]

Would not missing with range still account for defense tho? You’d still hit low but not hit 0s? Or am I mistaken

[@Rye312]

this is exactly what i called when people first were talking about the possibility of multiple combat styles. this combat tree is so sick i cant wait.

[@sm7085]

Does blowpipe beat drygore with t6 range relic?

[@conartist831]

as for scurrius, wouldnt you be able to kill him 10 times to get 2 unlocks? is he not over 100 cmbt?

[@toxicfox9966]

So....I might be trying to read between the lines, but if T1 range is 30% of max hit at minimum and T6 is never miss....I don't need a pickaxe for guardians in cox right?

[@Cane_Of_Fire]

Shine is here to tell me my opinion on leagues :D

[@lv99roidmage25]

Bloodmoon set go brrrrrrrrrr I really want to know how echo hits work cause If they can proc the Thunder Khopesh passive melee is gonna be crazy (yes I know all styles are gonna be crazy this leagues)

[@Snatat_]

Melee Echo probability for recurring echoes. Please advise if incorrect 1st Hit: 1 in 5 2nd Hit: 1 in 25 3rd Hit: 1 in 125 4th Hit: 1 in 625 5th Hit: 1 in 3,125 6th Hit: 1 in 15,625 7th Hit: 1 in 78,125 8th Hit: 1 in 390,625

[@nikzura]

100% accuracy 1-tick drygore blowpipe that hits through prayer, and heals sounds like the most broken thing that's been in any league

[@Nuvizzle]

Regular blowpipe has more ranged str than drygore so at tier 6 it's actually better since all drygore has is accuracy.

[@arweedsavu]

@@Nuvizzleyes but regular blowpipe requires Tirannwn. As a huge ToA & Tempoross enthusiast this is a dealbraker.

[@GenocideLv]

@@arweedsavu any fellow tempoross enthusiasts 🤓 (sry jk)

[@arweedsavu]

@@GenocideLv uhm.. acshually 🤓☝️

[@Gangstatownz]

Is the mage tier 6 execute pvp as well? If so that is huge.

[@wil4813]

It doesn't say PVM only like some of the other tiers, but surely there's no way it works in PVP right? that would be literally insane lol

[@KellenOReilly]

This is probably obvious but you need desert to still make darts right? So even if you go Tirannwn, you can't fully use blowpipe unless you have desert. Or is there an easy way to farm full darts im forgetting

[@JohnFromAccounting]

They will probably change this like the other regions so that Tirannwn pickers auto complete Tourist Trap.

[@orlandofiallo3079]

Hello everyone. As someone looking to use this league to learn ToA, is there a specific combat style that is used above the others for this raid?

[@Gamesbrandon]

Quick note: The mage max hit boost in T1 applies not 10% of the time, but *the 10% of the time that you are above 90% of your max hit*. This means that it's actually closer to a 10% damage boost than a 5% damage boost. That said, that's before accounting for overkill DPS.

[@MrPeGGaming]

I have never beaten Jad in main OS at max combat (yes i know i am bad) how am i going to do it in leagues ???

[@secondbass]

NINE DOGSWORD HITS IN ONE LESGOOOOO

[@MarioBrosfan34]

I have seen different explanations. Does the rounding down happen before or after rapid.... because if it happens before the after tier 5 4 tick bows become 1 tick on rapid. I think it has to happen after the rounding down

[@doubleshine]

It's -1 before , then 50%. tier 4 and below gets rounded up so 5t on rapid is treated as 4t and goes to 2t

[@MarioBrosfan34]

@doubleshine thanks... I probably should've read your pinned comment.... lol

[@ahki5649]

Hey leagues dad.... Do you think it's still worth taking grimoire as a ranged focus build with no access to zeah?

[@LazlowT]

Never done Scurrius before (leagues only player). Realistically, how early can I solo him? And what will I need to do it?

[@simonpieters2417]

Zombie axe tier 3 is gonna be very powerfull to start with. It's easy to get and has an +107 strenght bonus, becoming 4t.

[@miciso666]

Shhhh

[@CantStopTheB]

Do you think Echo Dags count as three separate ones? Coping bc I doubt I can beat the grandmaster ones lol

[@LRDSUPERFAN]

I would really like to know if defeating more than one Dagannoth king counts as more than one echo boss.

[@SpoonsDebonair]

I wonder if the mage max hit bonuses applies to voidwaker spec. If so a mage melee hybrid build could be sick.

[@awildbrownie5684]

If you never miss does that mean you can do colosseum with 100% ranged?

[@doubleshine]

Yes and probably my plan now :)

[@awildbrownie5684]

@@doubleshine GG to Sol's 1k ranged defence :D

[@RobertLeavitt-dc4zb]

Do we get to make darts without unlocking the desert? Thanks.

[@nathanharmon8971]

Am I doing my math wrong? Is a heavy ballista going to end up 2 tick on rapid? (7*.5=3.5 rounded to 3. Then rapid to 2.)

[@Jacksin24]

I think I’m gonna go 5/5 to get 2t weapons in two styles… but is melee even necessary at all if range is t6 since there is never a moment range won’t be better than melee?

[@Mr_Beers]

Curious how the mage tiers calculate. If the t1 is calculated on the t6 execute range

[@JonTheGamerGuru]

Wait. . . How do echo hits work with the blood moon set??

[@starless8012]

Really curious what kinds of non-mastery relics there will be. Will for sure affect the paths on mastery

[@OnyxANZ]

kourend/fremmy/asgarnia is also a tribrid option. you still get megarares, you get good gear for all 3 combat styles, you get the super sally, you get dk rings until you get the echo jewellery. you still have access to whisperer for virtus. you get raid prayers, multiple spec weapon options. you get the blood altar for the scythe. dcb, acb, zcb, arma, bandos, torva, zaryte vambs, staff of the dead, dhcb, dhl, d def, fantastic skilling options. Most importantly? No Kandarin.

[@thebirdman9896]

So let me get this right, 3rd tier range turns blowpipe into a 1 tick without needing to go tier 5?

[@Nacht_Ritter]

I wonder how double hit melee weapons will work with these echo hits. Just imagining blood moon set with the tier 6 just never running out of hit splats with that 1.5 tick attack rate set effect

[@MagicIke]

woahhhh so is the hespori salamander going to be 1t with t5 range?

[@sictricker]

So does the tier three just get overidden by the t5 or do they stack?

[@SpiceyWrapGames]

I had a hunch there would be some sort of possible tribriding with how the Morytania echo item behaves. One thing that I believe MUST be mentioned is the fact that this seperates the combat tiers into another catagory. Now there are, in a lack for better words, 2 seperate relic branches. Instead of combat being tied with the other relics, they are in their own catagory; this allows for EVEN MORE customization by a lot. Currently, I've been thinking either Zeah, Prif, Wildy or Zeah, Prif, Frem. One is to shake things up and do new zones ( I did Wild in Leagues II). Zeah for the tribrid weapon for coverage on all weapons until a better weapon is accuired, Prif for the blessing for all melee weapons. However it's Frem and Wildy I'm stuck on. The jewlery is great for stats for eventual Raids I. However, the Wildy sword and shield are great options for both damage and defence. Hell, the shield can work well as an offhand with a crossbow. My only concern are PKers in the wild that only exist to annoy.

[@artemlutskov163]

is there a way to get darts for a normal blowpipe without picking desert just for an ability to make them yourself? like i dont want really want drygore that much, im good with just a normal blowpipe, do i have to waste a region pick on desert to just be able to get darts? i know you can get rune darts from dragons or whatever but that seems really lame to me

[@rexlarson1291]

The super salamander is all three styles so how does it interact?

[@TheSameTeam]

since its 95% ammo conservation, how much does ava's add?

[@Smoughh]

Doesn't 5tick weapons with 80% just become 4 tick, not 3? As 80% of 5, is 4. It doesn't round down another tick does it?

[@kozmokrisp6955]

How do I get darts for blowpipe if I don’t choose desert? I’m planning WMT ranged based

[@Stoff_Rocks_Packs]

Wildy bosses crystal/dragon implings grotesque guardians. Wildy bosses probably best.

[@chunkyman11]

I'm thinking. Zeah wildly and fremmy. Going 5 in Melee and 5 in range. Go melt the solo chambers.

[@bamf6603]

Why no 6th tier

[@Axiermopc]

are we sure the combat relic tasks have to be done in order?

[@helvet666]

This is just way too cool. I've always gone melee in previous leagues, but I feel like I'm leaning towards ranged. Never missing and always hitting at least 30% of your max hit is crazy. Screw it. I'm just making 3 accounts and trying them all

[@commonsense660]

17:40 the magic tier 2 relic will increase the max hit of your next hit by 5%*number of ticks since you last attacked. So if you are just spam casting barrage that is either a 20% or 25% increase for every attack. But if a boss has any downtime you are then ramping your damage in that down time, which is nice. Think like Zulrah, whenever she reemerges your first attack will deal extra damage