Dr. John McDougall - Estrogen Food and Women

[@ellderflower]

Regarding the issue with older women who are overweight having better bone density, but higher estrogen and slimmer women with lower estrogen and lower bone density. I just want to suggest that strength training counteracts this problem, lifting weights as a women throughout the lifetime is incredible for longevity and bone density

[@jgrysiak6566]

Dr McDougall always calls it as he sees it. No hold bars! Love it

[@RiDankulous]

I definitely had been pretty callous in the past about the unique challenges women face. I've learned a lot over time and including in your videos, sir.

[@TheSnerggly]

He described my body perfectly which CHANGED when I started listening to him 6 years ago.

[@g.e.boroush5176]

I thought I was invincible from breast cancer because I went WFPB no added fat a la McDougall Program at 55. My BMI is 20.8 at 133lbs, 5'7". I followed Dr. McDougall's recommendation to dispense with mammography so as not to expose myself to unnecessary radiation. At 70 I am diagnosed with ERpositive HER2negative Stage 3 (involving more than 3 lymph nodes, 5cm or larger tumor size) Grade 2 (medium aggressive) breast cancer. Mastectomy, chemotherapy, radiation therapy, 2 years of Verzenio and 5plus years of aromatase inhibitor for an 85% chance that my cancer will not return in 5 years. Although it could be that my breast had cancer in it when I went WFPB 15 years ago. But I HIGHLY recommend that every woman have a mammography much, much earlier than I did and save themselves. I would STILL eat McDougall's diet. But do not assume that it protects you from breast cancer - get that mammography done! If I'd done that I might still have my breast!!! Listen to Mcdougall re: diet. Do NOT listen to McDougall as to mammography.

[@marlalyle9055]

Thermography should be used, if you forego mammography. I am sorry for your experience. I wish you the best.

[@IamChezzerella]

@g.e.boroush5176 I went plant based 4 years ago I am 67. I always kept having mammograms every two years here in Australia. In July a 1 cm tumour was found with a mammogram and I was diagnosed with same cancer you have HR+ PR+ HER2+ I am going through chemo now with lumpectomy surgery in Oct. then radiotherapy followed by Herceptin for 12 months then estrogen blockers for 5-10 years. Its a very long journey. There are many factors that led us to this point including life style choices, pollution or one mutated cell. You are so right about having your mammograms. I have heard a few KZbin docs say don’t have a mammogram this is so RECKLESS/DANGEROUS. We have a very aggressive form of breast cancer and I urge all ladies do your self examinations and DO GET YOUR MAMMOGRAMS PLEASE. Please g.e stay positive and STAY PLANT STRONG 😊🙏

[@HybridParentSupport]

Lots of estrogens in our environment. Our government expects the higher iq population to take the time to inform themselves of what should be public service announcements, debate topics and policy changes to protect themselves IF they have the money to do so. Sounds like a eugenics program mixed with biological warfare. Our elites are just a bunch of chimps.

[@Kerry6691]

Fascinating science. I admire how you care so deeply about women's health issues. You help keep me on my path of wholefood plant based health. My estradiol level is

[@deedarnall9567]

Thank you, Dr. McDougall!

[@pixelated.peachyangel]

Not having menstrual periods isn't normal tho. Lessening the pain is great. Thanks for the presentation.

[@janwhite9381]

I agree completely

[@Selfunraveled]

Dr Mcdougall, love this lecture. When you said that menstrual periods go away, it makes one wonder if menstrual cycles(specifically the bleeding ) is a natural thing that should be happening to women? There are other doctors and thinkers who claim that it is not natural whatsoever and it is due to the high fat and animal consumption of our modern diets. I feel that I totally agree with this because with every person that pursues a healthier way of eating, their periods slowly become lighter and some disappear, but they are still fertile!! In this case, it wouldn’t be like a typical case of amenorrhea because the woman is still healthy and fertile vs many other reasons for women to not menstruate. I think it’s a complex topic and would LOVE to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks 😊

[@allveganfoodies]

Thank you for your free books.

[@IResonateWithU]

I always wondered why we went through puberty before we matured...can't be right. There is no world that exists when it is normal to be able to get pregnant at 10. When we were all dying younger I understand maturing at 17...although still too young. Society encourages early maturing. There is nothing cool about being spent by the time your 30 🙄

[@suzyq6767]

I'm sorry that you feel ignored. Hundreds of thousands have listened, and they make a difference by their example and maybe with their words. Like ripples in a pond, each life you touch also touches others. You have helped me. I have helped other family members and friends. One particular family member was given a death sentence of a couple months to a year because of a heart issue. Ten years later, he's still alive. He never got a complete reversal, but he did get to enjoy his grandchildren, travel to Ireland twice, remodel his home, teach Sunday School in prison, travel the US, and a lot of other meaningful, joyful life adventures. My health has improved dramatically. I'm trim and fit post-menopause and post-pandemic, which none of my friends can claim. We do listen; hundreds of thousands have listened. Your work is a success. Now, the second generation of life-long plant-based people is raising their children that way. Don't discount your influence. My grandmother died of severe T2 diabetes complications at 59. I am 58 and healthy as a horse with perfect blood numbers. This difference directly results from the work you and the other plant docs have done. Thanks for all you did and still do. You are a hero to a lot of people. That counts.

[@elizabethmuir9950]

FANTASTIC, thank you so much!!!

[@magicjack100]

This should be sent to our law makers, might educate them in more than one way.

[@WeCelebrateEatingPlants]

Thank you! 🥦❤

[@juliannarathmell]

So where are the studies? Most doctors who state there are studies link those studies. So where are they?

[@6248cjl]

Until modern medicine and birth control, I think many women died from childbirth, so many never made it to old age.

[@peterstrous2092]

Consider that industrialization made 1. animal food containing the animal's hormones readily available to the masses, 2. industrialization led to breeding animals for high growth and high milk yield, both growth and milk yield are controlled by hormones. Next consider that 1. humans have been growing taller during the industrialization and growth is controlled by hormones, 2. the age of menarche has been coming down during industrialization and the age of menarche is controlled by hormones, 3. cancers influenced by hormones have been increasing during the industrialization as have 4. other female issues like PMT and endometriosis. With that many hormonal pointers, it starts to become likely that the ratio of the birthcanal relative to the size of the baby has been distorted and that this is the realy cause of women dying from childbirth in the industrial era.

[@peterstrous2092]

Modern medicine at the time of industrialization might appear good because of the bad side of industrialization

[@panes840]

You are correct

[@chloenightingale]

Thank you!

[@c.j.9141]

One other person questioned "what about fat men?". Men have estrogen, too. And excess fat creates the same problems for men as women; ever see "man boobs"? And men can get breast cancer, too. In my opinion, this talk should have included issues men have when carrying excess fat, too. Excess fat=excess estrogen=potential for cancer.

[@michellesweightlossjourney6599]

As well as prostate cancer. The human fabric is waning thanks to all the chemicals we consume in our foods, beauty & cleaning products, and environmental toxins. I hardly remember fat people in the 70's......it was so rare.

[@gutchiespencer2714]

Women really do go through a ton of shit as we get older, specifically with hormone imbalances that controls everything about a woman, it takes hard work and a serious attempt to practice self care in every area of our lives.....

[@kassrripples3659]

I’m looking for information on Lipedema and Dercum’s disease and found this presentation.

[@stargazerbird]

Gosh, what a miserable view of half the population. I have been hearty and pain free all my life. Seen men plagued with prostate cancer and heart attacks and a lot of aches and pains. The pill was a godsend for me and I was on it most of my life and am now on BHRT. At 69 I feel great and have no menopause symptoms. Watched as the older generation have aged with men either dead a lot sooner than their wives of being much more frail and more prone to mental problems. Women are built to last and to be useful members of society well into old age.

[@DaintyAbby]

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[@DawnStyleArt]

I don’t think you are addressing this issues he is speaking to. I’ve seen similar studies all over the world that confirm toxins and diet have affected women. You may be an outlier. The pill was disastrous to me and my daughters. Estrogen supplements gave my mom breast cancer. I’m happy for you, but I’ve been infinitely healthier since adopting a more natural toxin free diet and lifestyle while treating the body with proper nutrition…but I totally disagree with his take on meat. Healthy meat adds nutrients and fats which we need. The trick is to clean up the meat and dairy industry. I do NOT eat simple starches if I want to feel good. Sugar makes me ill, creates brain fog and I gain weight. Cravings are intolerable. He’s missed the mark on that.

[@BB-ux5wd]

What is the ideal healthy weight for a woman who is age 26 or 27 and 5’4 ? What would be too underweight, overweight, and healthy weight for a woman that size ?

[@lorelei23]

16:23 How can having periods closer together result in fewer periods in a lifetime? Wouldn't closer periods mean they're more frequent..?

[@cara2550]

What about birth control for women? Copper IUD offers a non hormone option, but cramps and clots and heavy periods are the norm. It seems the only reliable option is some form of hormone pill or iud. Would Dr. Mcdougall deem these acceptable?

[@jonestacara]

I need more estrogen and my period back. I tried this diet but kept losing weight and I’m already small

[@christineesendagli8165]

please explain the cause of triple negative breast cancer which has no relation to eostregen .Also you mention that you do prescribe tamoxifen. Can you let us know your views on herceptin/pergeta for her2 positive cancer please. My daughter was diagnosed with triple positive grade 3 cancer at age 23 two years ago.

[@peterstrous2092]

Re: please explain the cause of triple negative breast cancer which has no relation to eostregen. Consider that not just estrogen, but also other hormones like progesterone and prolactin can influence breast cancer rates. Consider that it might be an assumption lacking empirical support that most cancers are caused by DNA damage only rather than considering the possibility of exogenous hormone consumption interfering with apoptosis facilitating DNA repair at organism level and this interference in turn facilitating the accumulative cellular DNA damage essential to carcinogenesis?

[@Nina-hk7ub]

Dr. Kristi Funk showed that even triple negative breast cancer pts benefitted from certain foods. She has many videos

[@christineesendagli8165]

Yes I do have her book, however I know that she is not anti chemo/radiation etc. I just wish Dr mcdougall would give a little more information regarding his opinions on breakthrough treatments such as herceptin for her2 positive cancer, and if he would agree that such treatments are useful. I have great respect for Dr mcdougall but am always frustrated at how he lumps all the different subtypes of breast cancer together with a one size fits all.@@Nina-hk7ub

[@HybridParentSupport]

09:10 16 years old is the time we’re supposed to start a family? Does that rule apply to when boys start puberty too? Because I was attracted to boys my own age when I was younger. They were more attractive than older men.

[@wendym2544]

So, what are women supposed to eat and what are we not supposed to eat?

[@maumau4336]

I'm vegan and low fat for 5 years and still got fibroids, this is not the solution for everything!

[@billngold6]

Dr McDougall what does estrogen in the meat and dairy and cheese, almost all food supplies are contaminated with atrazine BPA and glyphosate do to the Males looks to me like we have hormonal dysfunction men growing breast and a real soft and round not really any alpha males ! 🤔

[@daniellesmith00]

I have a question, I have been Vegan for over 5 years. I learned about you and started applying the Starch Solution earlier this year. I’m currently going through perimenpause. It has been a NIGHTMARE that continues to get worse instead of better. Please can you talk about what I can do when my diet is already clean and spot on? Thank you 🙏

[@11235Aodh]

Dr. Barnard has a lot of videos on menopause over on Physicians Committee youtube channel. Eating soy seems to help a lot of women esp. with hot flashes.

[@peterstrous2092]

consider that the NIGHTMARE potentially could be worse if you were still consuming animal food. Unfortunately, not all changes caused by eating the wrong way can be undone. There are long-term effects from a bad lifestyle. All we can do is count our blessings and live with whatever we have left.

[@janwhite9381]

Be determined to not suffer with perimenopause ever. Most compounding pharmacies offer spit tests for hormorones. Its a take home test with directions and a great tool to finding out ur levels. Get help asap and watch women on utube talking about menopause. Good luck!!

[@DaintyAbby]

Because veganism is not the answer

[@peterstrous2092]

@@DaintyAbby Which might be correct but that does not imply that omnivorism wasn't the cause of the hormonal imbalances leading to troubles in the first place.

[@animaleyes4733]

It's due to poor diet and lack of exercise lol...

[@Lemony1980]

I just download youre books for free Thank you

[@ourblueheavendesign]

Of course The “creator” if there is one is a man! Just to find a doctor to listen to woman is so difficult! Second class citizens as well! And then half the men walk out for a younger version anytime they feel like it!

[@panes840]

He's lost me. Sorry . Women in their productive years have extremely high levels of estrogen so why don't they have unprecedented breast cancer cases? you are not making sense. Plus post menopausal women have significantly reduced estrogen and just as many women who DON'T take HRT are getting breast cancer but as I say have significantly reduced estrogen. Explain that and yes diet is very important but it can't be the only explanation. There are lots of post menopausal women who are thin with brrast cancer so explain that. Other than that, he makes some good points about fibre and how it affects the microbiota of the intestinal tract. Has he read the book estrogen matters??? I would love to know what he thinks of that. Notwithstanding, science seems to make a strong connection with us living much, much longer due to scientific interventions and that we are all living longer than nature intended. We are the only mammals living past our reproductive years by approx 30 years. I love his diet but I'm not convinced on the logic about estrogen. Ive always admires Dr Mcdougall and still think he's one of the best but I find his ego as he is getting older just totally overwhelming. That's my opinion and shoot me down if you want. I mean no disrespect but I can't follow everything he says as gospel. He is not a mini God. He is NOT an expert in some fields of medicine. But his diet! Spot on and what he has to say about EXCESS estrogen in animals and xenoestrogens and makeup are somewhat different to normal estrogen is correct. Follow his diet. But I am taking my HRT Menopause Taylor, Dr Louise Newson and the chaps who wrote estrogen matters (they arecon you tube) present amazing evidence.

[@peterstrous2092]

Re: "Women in their productive years have extremely high levels of estrogen so why don't they have unprecedented breast cancer cases?" Women breastfeeding have indeed slightly elevated rates of breast cancer. Re: "just as many women who DON'T take HRT are getting breast cancer" this is not correct. In monograph 100A the world health organisation (IARC) declares HRT (and the contraceptive pill) definitely carcinogenic. Re: "diet is very important but it can't be the only explanation" indeed, John never claimed that. The industrialization not only made animal food with its animal hormones more readily available, also selection for growth and milkyield, both increased hormone levels as growth and milkyield are hormone regulated. Re: "menopausal women who are thin with brrast cancer so explain that" Increased BMI is a risk factor. A risk factor is nothing more than an association, it is not necessarily causal. With more fats we might produce more estrogens as John claims but most of our estrogens come from the animal food we consume. Some more come from HRT and the contraceptive pill. We need to consider the TOTAL CANCER PICTURE in order to see the most likely truth. Just like one would not research lung cancer by CIGARETTE BRAND. That would dilute the evidence. In the end we can ask if it is an assumption lacking empirical support that most cancers are caused by DNA damage only rather than considering the possibility of exogenous hormone consumption interfering with apoptosis facilitating DNA repair at organism level and this interference in turn facilitating the accumulative cellular DNA damage essential to carcinogenesis.

[@Nina-hk7ub]

I had estrogen positive ca at 33 and 40.

[@panes840]

@@peterstrous2092 thank you for your reply very interesting. all I know is, is that estrogen doesn't cause cancer but it can fuel it because its a growth hormone. There by hangs the difference. The risk with HRT is miniscule notwithstanding, most people in a study would also be consuming meat, dairy, eggs and fish sooooooooo consuming mammalian hormones I sure would be a different and yet compounding problem but studies like this don't study HRT on WFPB women! The levels of HRT taken are literally putting back what the women had before and as we are living longer passes menopause then I'm sorry living without hormones for 30 years is not something to suffer with or solely rely on a WFPB diet like I did for 5 years to try and keep levels hormones balances (that's just reductionist thinking). I also disagree in that the majority of breast cancers are in older women and not all of them are on HRT. Saying otherwise is scare mongerimg.

[@panes840]

@@Nina-hk7ub oh gosh so sorry no hear that. We're you on HRT?

[@peterstrous2092]

@@panes840 Re: "The risk with HRT is miniscule notwithstanding" * The risk of HRT and the contraceptive pill appears miniscule in the western world consuming a lot of animal food; a study in India found that women on the contraceptive pill having a more than 9 fold increase in breast cancer. It is all the exogenous hormones from both animal food consumption and pharmaceuticals that increases our risks. One cigarette will not kill you. One steak will not kill you. It is the accumulative effect over the years that does it. Re: "The levels of HRT taken are literally putting back what the women had before" * Yes they might bring it up to previous levels but are the previous levels during fertile years a health level long-term? Re: "we are living longer" 1. While we are living longer than around 1900, Paul Clayton and Judith Rowbotham in their paper “How the Mid-Victorians Worked, Ate and Died” state: “Analysis of the mid-Victorian period in the U.K. reveals that life expectancy at age 5 was as good or better than exists today, and the incidence of degenerative disease was 10% of ours.” The Brits don't appear to live longer currently than around 1870, just before the industrialization period started. 2. Longevity researchers like Craig and Bradley Willcox and Makaoto Suzuki (The Okinawa Way) and Dan Buettner (The Blue Zones) all point at those living the longest on the planet being low-income communities consuming a simple nearly fully plant-based diet. Discussion and conclusion: These findings are congruent with the (low income) Mid-Victorian findings which would have been consuming a much more plant-based diet and neither findings support that we live longer nowadays because of increased living standards supporting high medical care. Re: "estrogen doesn't cause cancer but it can fuel it because its a growth hormone" After 7 years of intense cancer and diet research my understanding is summarized in: Is it an assumption lacking empirical support that most cancers are caused by DNA damage only rather than considering the possibility of exogenous hormone consumption interfering with apoptosis facilitating DNA repair at organism level and this interference in turn facilitating the accumulative DNA damage essential to tumour initiation?

[@heyesfan]

Having periods every month isn’t natural; in a natural world, women would be pregnant and lactating much of the time. Food for thought, this video, thank you!

[@TamyTee]

Why do you say this

[@heyesfan]

@@TamyTee We do so much to avoid getting pregnant; seems to me that pregnancy is a more natural state than women having periods every month for years on end. Not complaining, of course, just explaining. 😉

[@billngold6]

@@TamyTee because everyone had between five and 15 kids when I was growing up yeah 🙏💕💯

[@pixelated.peachyangel]

@@heyesfan It's not normal to give birth to a loooot of children. Women are selective because childbirth without modern medicine is very dangerous.

[@mowthpeece1]

The Creator, if there is one, is female. I know this because she sets us free at menopause. Men on the other hand remain slaves to their gonads but can do little about it. It's a beautiful thing.

[@freelanceservices8704]

You sound salty

[@josephinen36]

Yes indeed

[@DeviDalyYoga]

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[@marshabalderrama8903]

Yes Dr. McDougall, when my 2 girls started their menstrual cycle at age 9 started buying organic food i.e. milk, meat. Because, I thought it was from the hormones that farmers are giving cows to produce more milk and more meat. But by then it was too late. Now my girls are in their 30s and obese. After I turned 50 I got the what they called the 50 middle. I have never been overweight until I turned 50. All through the years I never really like to eat meat. But I was told by a doctor if I didn’t start eating red meat I would lose all my iron. Who knew? After seeing forks over knives and seeing you in your younger years, it changed my life❤️

[@marshabalderrama8903]

I now became a vegan and I lost the 50 year old belly and I have no estrogen poster testosterones progesterone. I dabbled in a little of HRT and the problem is my insurance won’t let me see a natural path doctor. What has this world come to. Everybody who does eat the Midwestern diet that I know thinks that I’m an idiot because I don’t get any proteins. Lord would I love to have all my test done, I just can’t afford it.

[@abideenturky]

Become Raw vegan, or even cooked vegan, you will live 50 more healthy years. Raw vegan combined with intermittent fasting, never need doctors or hospital, Guaranteed

[@pixelated.peachyangel]

@@abideenturky a raw diet is dangerous. It's hard to get enough calories.

[@Ms.Virgo831]

Thank you sir 🙏 ❤