DRAG RACE: Which Of These Four Performance Cars Can Beat the 2020 Honda Civic Type R?

[@machfive916]

Great video. Nathan is such a competitor, that it pains him to lose. Andre isn't much better. However, both are gracious in the end and they are fun to watch.

[@soapa4279]

Legend has it, they are still trying to figure out how to turn off the traction control in the Civic Si

[@rootsmanuva82]

I've never seen anything like it. Honda probably made it as difficult to crack as Fort Knox because a large proportion of Civic or Si owners are probably 18-28 years old. But I can't picture a FWD Civic swinging it's tail out that easily. You'd have to drive like a total hooligan to do that. It's dumb.

[@jaymanny6944]

"Badass Sushi" that's awesome good comparison's guys

[@jedironin380]

If you need a mathematics degree to *really* shut off the TC in the Honda... The Miata won! That is all.

[@OGNubbs]

It's 2020 nobody thought to grab their phone and go on Civic Si forum and see how to disable it? It took me about 3 min to find what took him 20 min. But hey kudos for figuring it out the old fashion way

[@rohinhans7819]

They could have just pulled the fuze

[@LILKRANKIN]

Turning off that traction control looked like you were typing in a grand theft auto cheat code

[@BrandonLeeActual]

it's like the contra-code on LSD or something.

[@zealeau]

Yeah bring in an AUTOMATIC MERCEDES with almost 400 HP against a FWD with clutch and almost 90 HP less... I mean.. Wtf? 🤔

[@lovescamaros1]

well the type r is supposed to be fast and the (wildcard) is a 4,000 plus pound suv...its all in good fun.

[@zealeau]

@@lovescamaros1 The Type R, is very fast for its category and money. Its also not so light as you might think. However the Mercedes costs maybe 2 or 3 times more, is Automatic which means no skill is required from the driver in a drag race, just push the gas pedal and go. And most importand it's AWD. So yeah for the fun as you say but the type R stood no chance from the start

[@Vosovogalsyncope]

Focus RS woulda gave that Mercedes a good run.

[@zealeau]

@@Vosovogalsyncope a good run yeah but would have lost because it also does not stand a change against an automatic AWD Mercedes of 400HP

[@jimmypena2442]

@@zealeau The Focus RS puts more power to weight ratio with the AWD, my bet with a good driver the RS would beat it.

[@beexiong2995]

1 mile above sea level helps turbo over NA.

[@Brocep]

2:53 Miata in left lane, 2:54 Miata in right lane? (Queues Xfile music)

[@leonelm.hormaza8576]

@@rubiks15 same with Mercedes and Type R run.

[@titanium7992]

All of these cars are nice, but everytime I watch a review of the Type R or MINI JCW I'm reminded of how ahead of its time the WRX STI was. 300 HP and around 280 TQ Turbo 4 cylinder in 2003 in USA. Handled well, almost indestructible engine, and maintained value. Even the base 2002 WRX with 228 HP was an amazing value and would hold its own against the cars in this competition.

[@wavy518]

indestructible engine?????

[@MrJrod899]

The engine is ass

[@straightupgutta]

@@wavy518 lmfao

[@AnasAhmed-ib1my]

New cars has much better corner handling, much better overall features but yeah WRX, Eclipse and Evo was beast!

[@poolplexer]

I own 2019 Type R. Thing is such a blast to drive. I've never owned a car like this that I just want to hop in every second

[@renaldobryan1047]

Wish i could afford one

[@bigboost2641]

I’ve got a red 2019 too. 😎

[@bullracing1]

@Yonkaboo Exkaboo I'd rather take the 2021 Acura TLX Type S later next year.

[@thejaredmyers]

Same, totally in love with my R. #26306

[@thejaredmyers]

@Mikie Jones stock is 306hp/295lb so about ~300hp at the wheels is average stock. With basic bolt-on parts and a tune you're looking at anywhere between 350 to 400 but the tune is essential to get those gains. The ECU in the car is smart enough that if you do FBO parts without a tune you will see minimal gains... maybe 320-340 as it's going to automatically compensate for that change to try and keep you in factory specs. A simple drop-in filter will give you +10hp in this car, where a $1400 intake will only give you +20hp. That same intake with a tune and you're looking at +50hp. With a totally stock car + tune you can easily get an extra 40-50hp out of this car depending on how aggressive you are with the tables.

[@skoprowski]

Nathan exists!

[@estebanmuneton182]

Its unbelievable how many steps does the Si needs to turn off the traction control completely, I mean its to complicated. It should be one single button and that's it, no more.

[@jg5001]

My Fusion has a button. My Miata is asking me what Traction Control is.

[@Phrancis5]

Love the looks and driving feel of the Miata and Mini, but for a fun, practical, reliable, affordable daily driver, it's hard to beat the overall value of the Civic SI.

[@sugarnads]

Phrancis5 cerato/forte gt

[@diptarupghosh4431]

@@sugarnads they dont have a limited slip differential

[@connorrohlf4656]

You'd be surprised how practical the mini can be. If u get the non vertible version, cargo space with seats down is really good. Even the space in the vertible isn't bad

[@deejayimm]

I thought I wanted one, but then I went and test drove one. Hopping out of my Fiesta ST and into a Civic SI, it just felt completely dead, and numb. If you actually like to drive, and you like a car to communicate with you, it was hard to beat the fiesta. Even stock it feels amazing, but with some chassis bracing and a flash tune, it's a beastly little go-kart.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Thank you for never showing any bias against Honda and always giving them a fair shake as real car enthusiasts

[@deejayimm]

When has Honda ever had a problem not getting a fair shake? That brand has the most fanboyist fanbois in the industry.

[@YouTube.Malaysia]

2:54 Why did the Civic on the left side when it started on the right side?

[@TheAdventureAuto]

That was a Civic Si loss in my book. Race until you get the winner you want, I see. Imagine being on the street with an Si and wanting to actually accelerate.

[@joxer]

The Adventure Auto yeah that is for sure. If you can't get it to run without a 5 minute procedure then it's useless. Win goes to the Miata. Now go to something approaching sea level...

[@acuppajoe]

Yeah, the Civic SI was a disappointment in my view. A car that's marketed for performance and speed should have those options ready to go by default, not send you on a wild goose chase to figure out how to get the best performance out of it.

[@camdenkaminsky4819]

Joe Grubb Anyone with a civic knows that procedure it doesn’t take 5 minutes 15 seconds max I do it all the time

[@camdenkaminsky4819]

Tyler Wilson If you just want traction control off its one button so idk why they needed stability off

[@TheAdventureAuto]

@@camdenkaminsky4819 Because it made the car a lot faster. It's almost like a cheat code in a video game.

[@jackpez]

I’d take the mini honestly because of how small it is and how fun and cool it looks.

[@DB-sd3cw]

Sorry about the brain damage

[@BIGPOPRL]

The Type R is a beast but Miata Is Always The Answer. Period.

[@The_Animal_Man]

@giantmidget08 only if its stock and pink lol

[@BIGPOPRL]

giantmidget08 😂 LOL You obviously never driven one. I’ll give you a run down on the fastest growing trend right now is the NA Miata. They will be collector items. Boy racers love them. I’ve owned two and one was turbocharged. My dream Miata will have an LS. Modern day Cobra. There is a reason why Miata has outlived its competition, i.e., S2000. Ive owned everything from GT-500, Acura Integra, Dakota 5.9 R/T and various Ford pickups and nothing I’ve owned has been as fun as my Miatas. Go test drive one on a real road. You can’t beat it at the price! www.automobilemag.com/news/mazda-mx-5-miata-na-first-generation-five-reasons-to-love/

[@BIGPOPRL]

giantmidget08 I love all those cars you mentioned. I totally agree with you on the Horsepower but the Miata wasn’t originally designed to be a high horsepower car. That’s why I had a turbo on my first Miata. If money was no object I would still lean to driver focused cars VW R32, Focus RS, GT-350R, Skyline R34, C6 Z06, BMW M3, Porsche 911 GT3 RS just to name a few. I just love 🚗 cars!

[@NaijaBull]

You guys need to take the Si around the track again this time with the TC fully disabled. It would shave off alot of time.

[@NaijaBull]

And I was right lol

[@PastelFroggy]

How do you full disable it? I thought you just push the traction control button? Theres more to it?

[@iDrive4fun93]

What a stupid way to disable traction control. My Elantra Sport is easy. Just push the button once for traction control, hold it for a few seconds and it disables stability control as well. And the Straight Pipes were faster on the autocross with the Elantra vs the Si. The only issue with the Elantra is the aftermarket isn’t anywhere as good as it is for the Si.

[@NaijaBull]

@@iDrive4fun93 the Si in that StraightPipes review probably wasnt fully disabled

[@Dailyshart]

Mike Stanis hold it down for about 10 seconds with the e brake on, and then, it should say vsa fully off

[@iliveinthewoods]

Wrong. Miata Is Always The Answer.

[@motorcitymanman7711]

Ive driven both The "chick car" Miata and my masculine 2007 Pontiac Solstice....the Miata is more polished but the Solstice wins on looks alone!! One of the reasons the Solstice looks so good is the large (for its size) wheels on my "write me up" Red Solstice. Base 2.4 motor has about 15 more hp than the base Miata too, back in 2007 anyway

[@briana3695]

nAH Type R all dayyyyy

[@Hallowsaw]

@@motorcitymanman7711 my female coworker drives a solstice. My male Doctor friend drives a Miata...

[@Todd_S]

I'd pick a 4-door Civic Si for daily driving too.

[@BitcoinTo150K]

WRX is almost same price still pick it? Base WRX 27k otd 1.9 72 while Si 24k otd 2.9 60

[@SteezyKenny]

@@BitcoinTo150K Not really the same price, can negotiate a new 2020 civic si under 24k pretty easily. Also the interior of the civic si is 100% much better for daily driving in terms of comforts and amenities given for the price. I was heavily considering a WRX before I got my 2020 Si but the interior is too outdated for me and just felt cheap

[@BitcoinTo150K]

@@SteezyKenny I ment otd also it's only cheaper if you keep it forever. Look up 17+ WRX used values vs 17+ si. I do agree WRX is outdated we got one more year hopefully it's good

[@SteezyKenny]

@@BitcoinTo150K Yes that's true, from what it seems like though it seems like the new civics are holding their value pretty well. WRX hold values much better though, honestly if the WRX had a bit better interior then I might've pulled the trigger but the reliability issues scare me

[@BitcoinTo150K]

@@SteezyKenny I believe the Honda will be more reliable long term after the 100k. Least drivetrain I don't know about all the extra tech. Pretty much everything far as daily driver the civic is better unless snow. Just depends what you prioritize if it's all out performance you already know. Got 15 WRX new now 91k miles only mod e85 tune I'm making 330whp been super reliable so far. It's hard resisting urge of launching every light once you experience AWD but that's what saved my transmission. I beat a type R even with 5.0 and 1LE with under a $1k in mods

[@HMAKmusic]

Cool! thank you guys for doing these mash ups

[@Skidz1818]

I like the Type R, but i wish they would of made it in 2 door.

[@dha588]

Why's the type r even there

[@mikesims2641]

@Sergio Aguirre uh... No.

[@MegaAmazing19]

@Sergio Aguirre the Honda Civic type-r is more expensive than the Miata after dealers put on ridiculous dealer fees and or accessories.

[@MegaAmazing19]

@Sergio Aguirre I don't know if it's region or not however I have experienced having to pay closer to $44,000 for Honda Civic type-r here in the Pacific Northwest, however the RF Mazda Miata with the Brembo package as you describe topped out at 37 as you mentioned... I personally would choose the Miata, simply because I enjoy roadsters having driven both find it a more pleasurable experience overall... but I will not deny the practicality overall is far better in the type R with including passengers grocery shopping and other safety features

[@MegaAmazing19]

@Michael Bailey in which region did you purchase your vehicle, firstly congratulations I really hope you're enjoying it, and secondly here in the Pacific Northwest do seem to be an inflated price across the region for tae bars regularly hitting the lower $40,000 range

[@MegaAmazing19]

@Sergio Aguirre you keep referring to the Mazda Miata as slow, I agree that they're not as powerful, but the latest with the 181 HP motor gives a huge jump in performance and driving pleasure... certainly worlds better than the civic si.. the type r is something else entirely, over 120HP more than the miata and over 100 more than the SI. More than anything, I do believe that you should get a better interior quality in the Civic type-r for the price you're paying granted that is an entirely different subject

[@FallenArtemie]

Like always, the Miata is just chillin. Happy to be included.

[@rodneynasir8089]

I have a 19 si I never had an issue turning off my traction control maybe the 20s are different

[@Stormtrooper-oc4vn]

Does it help it launch better with it on or off?? I can't decide

[@BostonFishin]

Lol! “If it was my money, I’d buy the typeR because I’m a boy racer”!! 😂👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😂

[@BLACK05GO1]

What's funny or not, you can get the new LT1 Camaro (455 hp LT1 engine - but not with the SS package) for less than a Civic Type R. It runs low 12s @ 116 mph in the 1/4 mile, which absolutely destroys the Civic Type R in a drag race. If you want to go fast in a straight line, it can't be beat for straight line speed. You can also spend a couple grand on wider wheels and tires for the LT1 Camaro and it will fly around a road course.

[@La-yt1wr]

I'd take the Miata but while I like the Civics I'd rather buy an Accord Sport 2.0t.

[@chrisa2223]

@Lavonte A. I have an Accord Sport 2.0t and a ‘16 Miata. If it’s raining or winter I drive the Accord. Otherwise it’s the Miata all day, every day. It’s unbelievably fun even though the Accord is faster.

[@19hundoc47]

Nah, wait for the TLX Type S coming out soon

[@anthony5786]

I have a 2019 Si and love it. Just wish the 2.0 accord came with an LSD like the Civics.

[@Stormtrooper-oc4vn]

@@anthony5786 yeah without it the si is more fun and faster on the track then the 2.0 accord.

[@fasteddieb4742]

Should have had a Veloster instead of the Miata, then it would have been easier to decide which four to bring to the crusher.

[@pdd3]

And Jason from Engineering Explained would take the Miata.

[@Hallowsaw]

He would also take a crosstrek and a Tesla...

[@Fortheloveofjdm]

But damn give him an s2000 and he sells it lol

[@deet4895]

@0:54 is that a Japanese kei truck sitting over there? Do a video on that.

[@Syzygy236]

How did you even spot that?😂

[@deet4895]

@@Syzygy236 I got them "Eagle eyes" . 👀 😂

[@Syzygy236]

@@deet4895 i love those trucks. I can find them but they're pricey

[@deet4895]

@@Syzygy236 really? Even a 25yrs old one?

[@Syzygy236]

@@deet4895 yeah lol

[@erniediaz894]

Does the Type R have to go thru the same procedures to turn off the traction control ?

[@turbo95eclipse]

No, I own a 2019 Type R. All you do is hold the button down for 3 secs and no TC!

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Nathan how did y fit in the miata?

[@Justaeuropeanman]

I've always been a V8 guy got a Shelby GT350 and a scat pack charger for my wife and our 2 boys but lately I've been thinking about getting something with better mpg and those new Type R's have really been growing on me I love how they look lowered on some nice wheels probably gonna end up getting one once this pandemic is over

[@brentonwelty502]

“I’m badass sushi” best damn line I’ve heard from this show

[@the___truth8038]

Now do GP3 VS Type R. Both 306 BHP, but the MINI has a better engine and far less weight! 💪🤙

[@anythingbutwater154]

are those lights stock on the type R with the flashing DRL? And will those kinds of lights fit on my 2019 civic si because i don't like the stock ones and the headlights aren't that bright so i'm either looking into an aftermarket sequential one or the OEM touring ones

[@manuelramos8336]

That’s not fair for the Miata he win the first one

[@chaseboy225]

Honda Civic Type R is my goal car once I graduate from college and get an IT job

[@harleybecroft5947]

Dang. They’re only around 36 grand no? I’m waiting for the Acura type S to come out next year. Way more enjoyable than the type r

[@kadedone]

Kudos to you guys for for using the TC cheat code in the Si. You don't see many outlets that dive that deep into these type of things.

[@deejayimm]

That in and of itself is enough to never buy one.

[@kadedone]

@@deejayimm That's a pretty incorrect thing to say.

[@deejayimm]

@@kadedone Well maybe to you, but definitely not to me. Not to mention the fact that it feels dead and numb to drive. I thought I'd really like it, but I hopped out of my fiesta st gokart and into a bucket of room temperature lard.

[@kadedone]

@@deejayimm There you go, you said it yourself, it's all about opinion. I've tried the focus st and fiesta st and really enjoyed them for what they were. The Honda's powertrain and transmission felt more precise even if the car was down on power to the focus. And the Si weighs only slightly more than the Fiesta even though it have much more room. So it's very tossable and rotates well and makes the fords seem sloppy with their controls. But that's my opinion, as long as you enjoy what you got that's all that matters.

[@martineri2000]

Does the TC off truck works on type r too ? Cos it normally bugs so badly due to TC

[@jbandt]

I think its cool you guys have a team big enough and access to all these cars to even do these large comparisons.

[@Mednight5787]

Lmaoo guy driving the si doesn’t know how to drive and is a joke lmaoo “he’s got more power but his car is old”

[@jacobocejo21]

Miata is always the answer

[@mikelin7]

Come on. Miata wins. Doesn’t matter you win by the mile or by an inch. A win is a win.

[@terryhsiao1745]

They have the RF for the mx-5. Which is actually slower than the soft top

[@garys2157]

Not by that much, Car & Driver had 0 to 60 5.7 vs 5.8, they both would have beat the SI at lower elevations.

[@jaywilliams3625]

Love these type of videos. Thanks guys !!

[@rubbinsracingvideos]

Does the CTR have the same problems as the SI with disabling the traction control?

[@dauth78]

Nope. Hold the tc button for 5 seconds

[@bikingD]

Where is a GTI or Golf R and a Hyundai Veloster N. Heck even throw in a WRX or STI. Then you have a more complete competition. This is a bunch of light weights vs Type R.

[@nstylemotorsportsracing1471]

Damn right the wild card should have been a GTI A GOLF R OR VELOSTER N FOR SURE!

[@lfsracer79]

They test what they happen to have. They call them mash-ups.

[@bikingD]

@@lfsracer79 You still need to the right cars to be competitive. I have a Charger Daytona and a Rav4 I am not going to compare the two and call it a mash up. Those cars were so out of a Type R's league it was in a different universe.

[@pavel1809]

My civic si 2017 in 2 gear pull will spinnig the tire like crazy

[@senewell]

Just keep running them until you get the results you want I guess...

[@jelmervandegraaff]

They should've done the Civic vs Miata again just for good measure

[@robertk1049]

That Konami code you have to perform to disable TC in the Civic is just asinine. A Miata driver at a stop light isn’t going to sit there all day waiting for you to get your car ready to race. He’ll just leave you in the dust while you’re still pressing buttons. Way to go hon-duh.

[@ondrejkonopasek9363]

Dude, i'd still go with Miata. Just because it's definitely most beautiful car on the market rn!

[@MjekuMati]

When I see it in that red I agree completely!

[@lawdog516]

That was a fun video !!! Thanks

[@chriswilson433]

Zach in front of the camera! What a rare treat!!

[@mykolcarlos725]

How did they launch with the Mercedes on the left side and R on the right then the video shows them on opposite sides?

[@randys3010]

WTH is up with that traction control system on the si?

[@waydigga1982]

Miata got screwed. You guys should've sorted out the traction control before filming.

[@Toyota4Life]

I mean the most powerful is the winner without even watching lol. There’s no shocking news here

[@arevo8702]

I havent seen you in long time

[@arevo8702]

A*

[@housepianist]

Toyota4Life maybe no shocking news but it’s interesting to see that with all the potential of the Type R, it really wasn’t much faster than the rest of the field even with it’s over 300 hp. I would love to see how the Type R would fare against the GTI and the Veloster N.

[@deet4895]

Shouldn't you be over on some Toyota video talking about how "it's the greatest thing since slice bread"? 🙄

[@youngblood23rb]

@@deet4895 Toyota cost thousands more because the potential resale

[@g4do]

Wheres the 2021 mini cooper jcw gp ?

[@pete25901]

I owned the type-r for about 2 years and traded it in for a Genesis 3.3 t all-wheel drive sport.... Very happy I did the type-r gets old fast. also its seats are only comfortable if you're under a hundred fifty pounds

[@fuhjrvr7474]

Yeah I rode in my dads type r and I was under 150 and comfy as hell but after I put on weight and grew becomes uncomfortable after a while with 1 hour of driving

[@o-townminideals3104]

In the MINI you press and hold the button for about 4 seconds.

[@richardcole6690]

Really should have a Veloster N in that mix...

[@BLACK05GO1]

I don't know why they wouldn't have the Veloster N? If you check the stats, it runs within a tenth of a second up to 50 mph against the Type R. It isn't until higher speeds that the Type R really starts to pull on the Veloster N. It can run very close to the Type R is a short drag race. It's also $5K cheaper (leaving you plenty of money for a full exhaust and tuning which would bring the "N" right up to Type R straight line speeds.

[@jennifersmall8670]

I have 2012 Honda Civic Si my traction control easy turn off

[@povking1460]

Just found out my 13 si has factory 2 step. Hold the brake, floor the gas, it will launch at 4000rpm with traction control on or off.

[@povking1460]

It seems faster with tc on. Hopefully will take to the track this year.

[@jonny_cage7730]

POV KING I also have a 13 civic si and did not know that

[@ElvisCarReviews]

The Miata Won

[@housepianist]

Just a thought Roman - have you ever considered doing rolling acceleration test? I know there is a limited amount of straight track to allow cars to fully extend themselves and rolling starts could limit that even more but maybe you can have two cars together coming around the last turn at, say, 10 mph in 1st gear or something similar and then hit the gas at the starting line. You could eliminate the issues that some traction control systems have on cars and still have enough track length to effectively see which car is faster before running out of room. Jus something to think about adding to your battery of test.

[@InNoTime3377]

The si with a tune really wakes it up

[@InvertedAerials]

umm did i miss something? 08:33 GLC on the left Type R on the Right... 08:58 GLC on the right, type R on the left...ummm editing continuity error?

[@taylorrichter1320]

Glad you guys explained the traction control in the 10th gens any 2016+ honda is like that and most dont know my accord was the same way

[@andrewcunnison6975]

Moment you need a Ford Focus RS in the US.

[@Zinnshady]

They could have stopped coming up with new cars after the miata was invented, yall did her dirty on this one.

[@laltluangkimatluanga1763]

For me miata is my favorite with little Aero it will smoke them all

[@jrhunt414]

Good to see more of Producer Zach. He is very knowledgeable.

[@RL-ym7co]

That traction control setting is like a damn gta cheat code lol

[@shaunchristensen4386]

Awesome video as always! I have been watching the channel for a couple years and you guys are very entertaining and it has been awesome following you guys! I bought a 2019 civic TypeR last year and it has been a blast!! Prior to my Type R I traded in my 2017 Civic Si Sedan!! Both great cars but the Type R is on a completely different level!! The cars in this video are all great cars for sure!! Keep up the great content!! I look forward to seeing your next video!! 👍🏽🚙😀

[@miataenjoyer2786]

Civic si driver needs a driver mod lol (he’s a good guy, maybe it’s just me, but idk)

[@sinleong1979]

If GT86 vs MX5 vs SI? 🤔

[@thequarantinefamily5230]

The Miata will beat both of them ...they already have a video

[@rohinhans7819]

In the 9th gen si you use the switch in the car or pull the Fuze. But pulling the Fuze means you lose all abs traction control vsc and powerstering i think

[@thequarantinefamily5230]

So basically a Miata can beat an SI if the SI driver isn’t prepared with his traction control 😂

[@dha588]

JCW ❤

[@EldePHX]

If Honda really wanted to they can make that type r 400hp

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

They could....but that would be pointless because it’s FWD. would need to be AWD with that much.

[@The_Animal_Man]

They could make a driveable fwd car with 400hp it would have to be very front heavy and probably striped as a track car to do it

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

Richard Veguilla Then that wouldn’t make it a practical road car which is pointless.

[@twfinc6855]

Had a GLC 43 as a loaner while getting my Merc serviced... Its a nice car for sure.. just small for me

[@zealeau]

What you mean small? 🤔 What are you man like a giant or something?

[@twfinc6855]

@@zealeau its not a big car at all.. Im 6'5" tall but if you look at a GLE they are way way bigger

[@gregs.2239]

Pls race the 2020 veloster turbo and the 2020 civic Si in the future

[@Ishecotec]

I’ve had 17 Si for 7 months. Got the 19 R. I will still take the R because of much more planted/stable it feels over the Si and the horse power.

[@psewgobind]

I was envious of Si & R when I got budget 6MT LX Sedan. After 115k on the odo, I wouldn't want it any other way...it wouldn't be enough of an upgrade to justify the cost.

[@ohboytrouble]

You forgot the four-cylinder supra it’s perfect for that competition.

[@subvet3668]

That’s crazy how hard and convoluted they made it to disable traction control. Why, just why Honda ??!!?

[@zealeau]

My guess the manufacturer did not actually want people to disable traction control on this one. Maybe it's not as safe as they would like to. Who knows, it's not that they can not make it easier so I believe they wanted to make it hard for their own reasons like probably safety

[@psewgobind]

Traction control in my 6MT 2.0L Civic only requires a simple press of the button. Granted, it's still there if the car is going to spin-out, but it'll let you fry the tires bald if you wanted. I guess a car with sunroof and a cushy ride doesn't expect real performance maniacs behind the wheels.

[@nighthawk0077]

And the one everyone is talking about the Civic Type R. 2017: am I a joke to you?

[@TampaStreetScene]

the great value brand of car reviews

[@chuchum3]

My 4 banger 300hp PDK 718 Boxster would eat all these 4 bangers. Breakfast, lunch or dinner :)

[@sebco1698]

Proud owner of a first gen mini 2003 but I would take that type r in a heart beat

[@duggydo]

Super cool video guys! Btw, Zack is a genius. You should have him on more...maybe the podcasts?? I can tell he knows his stuff from the commentary he provides from behind the camera on your live shows.

[@jordandennis2702]

You should do mini gp with cheap tires vs. good tires on track and drag time

[@abdielperez470]

Type R vs Veloster N???

[@brandonanderson4117]

The type R would walk the veloster N, let alone the GP2 would give it a really good run.

[@Enidx10]

Truly a great video. Love the editing. Introducing that beast of a Mercedes like a final boss in an epic action video game. My money, I’d take the Type R all the way!

[@jackkirkpatrick2849]

TFL...Best there is.

[@jedironin380]

PPLLLEEEAAAASSSE tell me Paul will be running all four of these around the track! Please?? Same day, same conditions. Oh look, all four cars are already there, too! :D

[@TFLcar]

Please stay tuned 😉

[@Mistadontplay89]

Miata sounds great

[@boostusa4688]

4 cylinder Supra, STI, Ecoboost mustang, Veloster N

[@Mark-cx9rt]

Please add the other hatches like GTI and Veloster

[@danielthompson803]

Missing VW golf R Ford focus rs and other European hot hatches. But these cars were never designed for the American market.