Dragon's Dogma 2 Patch First Look... There IS Improvement

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@yousuff1 2 ай бұрын

I always wait 6-12 months before buying PC games now.. lower prices with most major bugs fixed. People who buy games on release in 2024 are unpaid QA testers.

@zretil 2 ай бұрын

and people who preorder games that have no gameplay video are Slot Machines addicts

@syeddanishanwer 2 ай бұрын

Haahahahaha 😂 They are indeed.

@Jdogg4089 2 ай бұрын

Same thing I do with console games. But yeah, I do the same thing with PC and it is much easier since I have all those free games (legally) and all the other games you can play on PC.

@Unicornpirate 2 ай бұрын

They don't fix all games though. Jedi Survivor and Dead Space still have constant traversal stutter even on the highest end system 7800x3d/4090. I just avoid those games as a whole.

@joseijosei 2 ай бұрын

It's games in general. In this case too. Every issue in this game was translated to consoles, and to an even worst degree. Just like with Jedi Survivor, I trusted the game could have much better performance without the need of mods, and here we are...

@jvmunhoz98 2 ай бұрын

Seemed like there were way less NPCs on the new patch footage... Gotta wait the in-depth review to se if this is actually the case.

@orijimi 2 ай бұрын

I'm perplexed why I don't ever see people pointing specifically to this: Doesn't it seem obvious that it's the cloth simulation that's dragging everything down here?

@Pointman11111 2 ай бұрын

@@orijimi Physics are the most important thing

@kylerclarke2689 2 ай бұрын

Performance is still rough on PC (RTX 4070, 1440p quality, DLSS 3) but is fine as long as you use frame gen.

@simonrockstream 2 ай бұрын

Complete waste of a great game. Thrown in the trash by Capcom themselves. This shit happens with 99% games its pathetic.

@Unicornpirate 2 ай бұрын

Regardless of performance issues, it's a huge upgrade graphically and combat base mechanics wise over the original. But its a massive downgrade story wise and endgame wise compared to the original.

@Whreck11 2 ай бұрын

The game is thrash anyway too much repetitive combat,stupid pawn AI,all sort of clunkyness,its not just performance mess of AAA game.

@gustenjakobsson8863 13 күн бұрын

@@Unicornpirate Bit late to ask but what do you mean by "base combat mechanics"? I'm of the opposite opinion that this game suffers from a big list of downgrades with very minimal improvements.

@Lievan 2 ай бұрын

For some reason, on my Samsung tv, 120hz mode with this game causes the screen to have the black’s pulsating. Other games run fine but it’s only this game and I can’t find a fix.

@jvmunhoz98 2 ай бұрын

It's an OLED issue. Low VRR ranges tend to do this to most OLEDs.

@Unicornpirate 2 ай бұрын

That's VRR flicker. Its a thing on TV's. My LG GX does it as well. I don't see it on my G-sync Ultimate ultrawide monitor though

@alumlovescake 2 ай бұрын

Even outside the town outside of combat where nothing is happening only get 30fps at 1440 dlss Q

@eliadbu 2 ай бұрын

Broke most of my mods, and wouldn't launch even after uninstall, so I just deleted the game folder entirely and reinstalled the game and added the newest REFramework mod and it works now (with some mods not working currently). BUT, first of all you get DLSS 3 and not being dependent on changing DLL files (which is what I suspect cause the issues I had at first). Performance is more stable (not great but not as bad as before). Overall good improvement on capcom end, I hope they will keep up the work.

@Koozwad 2 ай бұрын

do OLEDs still flicker like crazy with g-sync? I know the C1 did because I used it

@WardedPredator 2 ай бұрын

My LG C3 flickers/pulses like crazy in some dark scenes especially on title screens.

@eliadbu 2 ай бұрын

my CX doesn't flicker at least non that I've seen, I've heard it happens mostly when FPS fluctuate a lot and on darker parts of the images.

@f.9344 2 ай бұрын

It only flickers with VRR enabled. I disabled mine and since then its been awesome. I barely get the enjoyment of VRR. It only works well in half of the games anyway. The trade off was not worth. If you do not want to disable VRR, your only option is to lower the brightness, as only the dark grey ares are flickering. Btw I am on C9. so it may be a bit different on cx/1. There is also a "vrr black level" specific setting under Display on my tv. If you neither want to disable vrr or lower the brightness, just wait few years for fixed new hardware

@ryanocallaghan8833 2 ай бұрын

They very much do, RTINGS has a video on the topic which closely reflects my own Asus OLED PG42UQ. My previous IPS monitor with G-Sync module (AW3821DW) did not have the problem, but the FreeSync IPS monitor I had before that had the issue, and far worse than the PG42UQ. Luckily it only occurs in very select scenarios and is not noticeable during actual VRR gaming.

@tablettablete186 2 ай бұрын

@@eliadbu Mine only flickers with huge FPS fluctuations (even dark games as Alan Wake 2 were fine). And yes, I can reproduce

@mhjmstultiens 2 ай бұрын

Gosh... what do you even say to this? Is developing a smooth performing game really that much of a struggle nowadays?

@rezaadhimulya4439 2 ай бұрын

probably yes

@vagamer522 2 ай бұрын

honestly we are moving graphics (GPU/CPUs) way to fast instead of optimized and steady releases. If people still buy Nividia 4090s you know nobody cares about optimzation anymore.

@mhjmstultiens 2 ай бұрын

@@vagamer522 agreed. Brute forcing hardware isnt a winning strategy, unless you're selling the hardware obviously. ;)

@Szanth 2 ай бұрын

@@vagamer522 Most people aren't using 4090s. The developers don't think they do. They just aren't given enough time to do it right.

@DMT-ix9zj 2 ай бұрын

I played game on my ps5 from launch never had any issues put 125h in did both play throughs for the endings had a blast loved it not sure what these clowns are even talking about as far as game was unplayable must be haters.

@DerEchteAndrej 2 ай бұрын

I usually never buy games on release, mostly a couple of months or even years later. But this one I wanted to play badly., so I bought it a couple of days after the release. It crashed every time on my PC after the first 2 hours in the game...tried everything to make it run, nothing helped really. Never touched it again since then, going to try again after this patch.

@GameSlayer41781 2 ай бұрын

Gaming is dirt nowadays, finish your games ffs. People are happy with the bare minimum and praise devs for "fixing" a game months, sometimes years after launch. Technology being as advanced, shit shouldn't be this way. Games were better when they had the drive and heart for the craft. The only "drive" they have is for money

@skycrown9450 2 ай бұрын

On my Series X it looks way less sharp when i turn on 120hz mode. But its really fluid. Looks like 1080p for me. The 120hz mode button being separate from graphics options is weird.

@neverable2 2 ай бұрын

That's how PS5 does it.

@vagamer522 2 ай бұрын

honestly surpised then even offer 120hz given how massive the game is. 1080p low is at best what I would expect for 120hz to atleast be managable.

@glenmcl 2 ай бұрын

It would need to be one hell of a patch to make me pick up and play it again, and I have a 4090

@ReLapse85 2 ай бұрын

Same

@PhotoJohn80 2 ай бұрын

What cpu do you have? That matters a lot in this game

@meherenow793 2 ай бұрын

dynamic resolution locked 60 fps motion blur off ray tracing off chromatic aberration off surely that would solve the issue?

@ryanmartin8954 2 ай бұрын

July 11th DD2 PC patch reintroduced the frame time variability issue in cities again.

@quickenmyend 2 ай бұрын

I got to disagree with John I played Dragon's Dogma on PS5 and it was not unplayable. So I think he might be over exaggerating.

@DMT-ix9zj 2 ай бұрын

Agreed i have 125h in 2 play throughs game was a blast .

@hectorsanmartin6504 2 ай бұрын

My problem is that o don't know what to do in the game...there are no primary missions and I just keep walking and killing.

@cardecito8203 2 ай бұрын

I bought it and have 1 hour of playtime. Just waiting for it to run well and smooth. It gave me motion sickness like a mf.

@FelixtheCat-8310 2 ай бұрын

Me too. I was excited to play it but it makes me sick.

@arthurchu4491 2 ай бұрын

I almost forgot I bought the game, I haven't started playing it. The first game was also broken af until months after launch, so I'm waiting patiently.

@UglyWinnie 2 ай бұрын

Why have you bought it then? You could have saved money...

@TaddiMason117 2 ай бұрын

Why didn't you just wait until the game dropped in price? It might be fixed then...

@arthurchu4491 2 ай бұрын

@TaddiMason117 I thought they might get their shit straight this time after that blunt. Plus, the track record of CRAPcom's recent pc releases were not too bad, and no one mentioned performance issues until very late. The thing is, even if I know some games are going to be broken at launch I might still buy them on day one play them anyway, such as monster hunter, but DA2 was just me been careless and let my guard down (first-time in years)

@michaelboyer82 2 ай бұрын

I forgot about this game to and I own it.

@RunePrivacy 2 ай бұрын

Yeah me too, kinda waiting for a new graphics card too

@wretchedslippage3255 2 ай бұрын

I'm glad to see only an almost imperceptibly different shade of green to differentiate the two graphs. Bespoke!

@davidbrown6976 2 ай бұрын

It runs buttery smooth now

@LuckyJay817 2 ай бұрын

If you play on pc, watch a few videos before buying since most of the time they got performance issues. Games like this I usually play it on ps5

@kestononline 2 ай бұрын

Any idea if it got any better on Steam Deck? I've seen some devs implementing FSR3.1 (Horizon), that seemingly improves playability versus previous versions.

@oo--7714 2 ай бұрын

@kylerclarke2689 2 ай бұрын

Definitely not playable

@TheCocomunges 2 ай бұрын

FSR 3.1 doesnt even feel good on steam deck where most games natively run at 30/40FPS. FSR 3 needs like a base of 60FPS to work with. I tried ratchet and clank on the Deck with FSR3 frame gen and it just falls apart during cutscenes even if the FPS counter says 60

@kestononline 2 ай бұрын

@@TheCocomunges I don’t think it needs a 60+ source to be an improvement. Certain games like Cyberpunk on Steam Deck actually does get some benefit. Benefit doesn’t have to be double the performance. Sometimes a +10 FPS improvement is enough to make it playable, especially on handhelds. You’re right in that the FPS counter is misleading, because it can still FEEL like 25 FPS even if/when it says 60.

@cyco7229 2 ай бұрын

played the 2 hour trial on PS5 and now I'm itching to buy the game, too bad it's still too expensive in my country (even with the current discount).

@Ha3nes 2 ай бұрын

Want for at least 60% discount, or the golden pack with DLC. Not worth it now

@TheAufziehvogel 2 ай бұрын

I've also waited but PSN Cards are available way cheaper on some sites. 43 Euros seems solid to me because I really want it to play since release. Of course Capcoms strategy here is to sell it for 30 Euros most like during the holiday season.

@TheCgOrion 2 ай бұрын

I really want your animated background for a Lively wallpaper. It's awesome.

@murray821 2 ай бұрын

I put it away for the same reasons as John. With this patch I aught take a look

@ElrondKaresh 2 ай бұрын

Never really looked into this but think it'll be playable on steam deck? And I use playable in a 30fps type way... Lol

@AJJJ-co2vd 2 ай бұрын

It's still a problem playing it on Xbox sucks so much blur the frame rate is all over the place bad experience

@TatankaTaylor 2 ай бұрын

Dragon's Dogma's problems go beyond performance issues. Because it failed to be significantly better than DD1. They somehow made the story worse than the original. And even made the last boss fight a parody of the one in DD1. And the quests are terrible. Not to mention that the game feels like a lesser experience than DD1's. Even without the Dark Arisen expansion. Anyone still on the fence about DD2, just wait for the version of this game that comes out with a Dark Arisen type expansion. And even then, wait for reviews. And I don't mean performance reviews. A mid game is still a mid game regardless of how well it runs.

@liquid1514 2 ай бұрын

i personaly liked it more than the original

@syeddanishanwer 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Arisen was so much fun from the start till the end. This games looks like a graphical upgrade, but lost all the main charm of the original.

@puffyips 2 ай бұрын

@@liquid1514yeah it has better textures but that’s it, soulless game now

@liquid1514 2 ай бұрын

@@puffyips to each their own

@vagamer522 2 ай бұрын

@@puffyipsI swear you people are never happy with any game. If you think it is easy to make a game then I dare you to make one that is better than Dragons Dogma 2.

@antnuh765 2 ай бұрын

I thought buying the Xbox port was a good idea. It was not.

@ASTIGINGTUBE 2 ай бұрын

Xbox series X?

@antnuh765 2 ай бұрын

@@ASTIGINGTUBE Yeah, it runs bad on there too. I think buying this game on any platform at release was just a bad idea TBH but I had been waiting 10 years for this game :/

@grcigar9911 2 ай бұрын

No issues with DD2 on PS5 at launch. Aside from the mediocre musical score and some head scratching side quests, this game was breath of fresh air compared to all the souls-like games in recent years. I am glad Capcom is still working on patching this game, though, I too am tired of developers launching games these days before they are ready.

@ShamanKyrick 2 ай бұрын

"breath of fresh air" have to ask do you watch efap by any chance?

@jda8176 2 ай бұрын

I tried the 2 hour free trial and I uninstalled it after about 5 minutes of playing, it still has framerate issues on PC and the controls are bad.

@Voltomess Ай бұрын

the real issue is your potato pc

@jda8176 Ай бұрын

@@Voltomess probably, I only have a 4070 to, 32 GB of ram and a 13700k

@Voltomess Ай бұрын

@@jda8176 ooooh I have the same potato!!!

@eddiecoker4808 2 ай бұрын

Omgggggg finally!!!!!

@Archangel125 2 ай бұрын

Performance was fixed for me

@thejuiceweasel 2 ай бұрын

I just can't fathom how the company that released the Resident Evil remakes also released this completely borked mess of a game.

@AloneAgainstAll8855 2 ай бұрын

Performance issues aside, this game sucks. The Elden Ring DLC is infinitely better than the entirety of Dragon’s Dogshit 2!!!

@Highlander77 2 ай бұрын

Entirely different type of game from Elden Ring. Do you know it's possible to enjoy something without having to trash something else?

@AloneAgainstAll8855 2 ай бұрын

@@Highlander77 Do you know it’s also possible to give my opinion on a game I wasted money on? Both are RPG’s also so not that different. One is great and one is garbage. Possibly the worst ending to a game ever. A measly 4 min “boss” fight then credits roll. I laughed so hard then deleted it off my PlayStation.

@vagamer522 2 ай бұрын

I swear Formsoftware fans will put any game that is seperate beings to stroke their egos. DD2 and Elden Ring are two entirely different games. Thats like me comparing Armored Core to any Front Mission game.

@AloneAgainstAll8855 2 ай бұрын

@@vagamer522 Because they are the kings. Souls like in general are awesome. DD 1 was awesome. Second one sucks. Just my opinion. Lies of P and Lords of the Fallen are also much better games. Shit, the Enotria DEMO is better than DD2!!

@princesszelda8577 2 ай бұрын

@@AloneAgainstAll8855 who's gonna tell him about the 4 min boss fight ending and the credits roll.........

@arik2216 2 ай бұрын

Yeah modern Gamers asking this. Developer has money to raise nvdia, Intel and amd next gen product + expensive hollywoke voice actor but developer doesn't have money to make a game with best gameplay and better optimization 😂 Anything is too obsessed for hyper photo realisistic graphic. All investment go to shitty UE 5 and denuvo.

@meherenow793 2 ай бұрын

mental illness