Dragonball Evolution - 1st Viewing

[@zeldadonkey1]

It's okay that you didn't watch the show, the people who made evolution didn't watch it either

[@sebastiancintron29]

zeldadonkey1 But Doug and Rob have the decency to know this movies garbage.

[@fromolwyoming]

Sad, but true.

[@zeldadonkey1]

Some Random Guy couldn't just take my comment as a joke... Had to analyze it didn't you?

[@TheMike0088]

fun fact, the guy that played piccolo in this piece of garbage is actually a huge dragon ball fan. He is the one to thank that, as bad as the movie is, piccolo at least looks SOMEWHAT like piccolo since he protested what the higher ups had initially planned for the character design-wise

[@fromolwyoming]

That is true. James Marsters gave a somewhat believable King Piccolo. And, barring the antennae, did look like Piccolo. Props to him.

[@Iqbalx1]

The only good thing that came out of the movie is that it pissed off the creator of dragon ball into making super

[@TehLucario]

Got Beerus out of it. All is good.

[@ChamarM]

and got piccolo's actor James Marsters to voice zamasu in super

[@Jesterclown17]

Goku is one of the most simplistic characters in manga anime, just an alien kid with a heart of gold and a desire to fight and protect the innocent... ... And they still FUCKED THAT UP!!

[@coolgreenbug7551]

We could have done that, but the chart says

[@RavenArmandus]

Yes lol

[@kamehameharem]

Yeah, goku doesnt care about protecting anyone but his family and friends, he only wants to get stronger and fight stronger enemies. The english dub changed a lot of that though.

[@RmnGnzlz]

Stephendw When did he care about protecting the innocent? What I love about Goku is that since he was a kid he just loved fighting because it was fun for him, no moral bullshit involved. He protected his family and friends because of selfish reasons but he wasn't out there using his super strength and flight abilities to fight crime on Earth. If his friends weren't in danger he would just train alone in the mountains to get stronger and find yummy stuff to eat.

[@kentbarnes6380]

Stephendw no true fans faze through all disgraces we WILL LIMIT BREAK!!!! Btw im saying db is so gud that it cant be ruined , we must destroy the wanna be movie with Hakai so that the future will never ever ever infinite never ever know of this

[@JadeAnnabelArt]

"Let's take a series about fighting and turn it into a high school drama!"

[@battlion507]

Jade Annabel I don't know, that sounds like the usual anime of today... but this film sucks the fun out of that concept anyway. Such success...

[@thecircle8568]

Um db is not about fighting, its about dragon balls, adventure, comedy etc, Dragonball z is the sane but a bit more fight centered

[@stanard_bearer]

@@thecircle8568 until it became a highschool drama (but that was actually pretty entertaining)

[@casuallectures2655]

That's just what would've happened if they *actually* went through with making Gohan the main focus of the story after Cell

[@Bubbsmaster]

Well the chart says....

[@cinnamonsmoothz]

I just picture every time this movie is spoken about out loud Toriyama just sits up from his desk looks out his window and sighs

[@Menhtrol]

with a single tear going down his left cheek

[@cinnamonsmoothz]

RedRam Ipsen nice touch

[@dnmstarsi]

At least we got Battle of Gods and Resurrection F.

[@michaelsted1500]

dnmstarsi The ending to Res F completely ruins that movie

[@Dasvaun]

This movie was the whole reason Toriyama did Battle of the Gods. Cause he sure as hell wasnt gonna let this kill Dragonball.

[@franky_saint]

I think the main reason Anime adaptations fail is that Hollywood execs look at a good, foreign story and say: "The American audience is too stupid to tell if we don't give a shit about the source material, right? I'm sure they won't notice that we're here for a quick check instead of actually trying to respect the Japanese and their media."

[@PaceBreaker]

Same could be said about any half-assed movie adaptation.

[@proboy2372]

St. Frank sounds like 4kids to me.

[@georgehutter339]

*angry dbz fan noises*

[@Delightfully_Bitchy]

It's probably more that the executives are apathetic and thought something along the lines of "if they watch that shit, they'll watch anything and if they don't like it they'll see it anyways, so why spend more time/money/effort on it?" Videogame publishers do something similar.

[@andieallison6792]

Even Japanese anime adaptations suck. Its the genre.

[@dhatfield8411]

The adaptation so bad that the writer had to apologize to the source material's fans.

[@grudginglywalawigi7149]

D Hatfield this is happening more and more

[@zebefreod871]

And that's a good thing, the guy really fucked up a simple concept

[@Delightfully_Bitchy]

I love the dragonball series, but I did sympathize with the guy: Absolutely no one else on the project besides a few actors cared he was finally getting a decent paycheck, so I don't blame him for just getting the thing done and moving on.

[@Delightfully_Bitchy]

Now that I think about it, a lot of the actors actually cared, to the point to the point they tried to watch what they could whie learning their lines. James Marsters actually became a fan, he was so commited. The reason the performances were so wooden despite that was a combination of people losing trust in the director and no one quite knowing what was going on.

[@rogue7723]

Haven’t heard that happen since Fan4stic.

[@darkdeath5550]

Even years later, still amazes me that even Doug with his lack of anime knowledge can still see this, and say "no way is this faithful." I move to never let an American studio do any more anime live action movies. They obviously never watch any anime

[@loganshaw4527]

Ya like the "hmm what if the whole cast is Asian except goku? Because goku is a alien would work better.

[@7evenseas975]

this was true until one piece live action arrived.

[@vonniebunny8049]

aagh. the worst part is, rob is right, that opening narration does describe about 50% of anime... (And a bunch of western films too) but not Dragonball! Dragonball doesn't have that kind of backstory at all. no destiny, no prophecies, it was meant to be funny goddamn it. I hear the writer of the film actually feels kind of guilty about what he did though, admitted he was just chasing a pay check so at least there's that.

[@jp3813]

Well, there is Bardock's vision of the future where his son defeats Frieza. But no one really knew that except him. There's also Vegeta hyping up the Super Saiyan legend.

[@millerjames908]

jp3813 wasn't it a non-canon movie when that happened?

[@thecircle8568]

@@jp3813 still did not start with or end with that sorta crap lol

[@thecircle8568]

@@jp3813 legend is not a prophecy

[@thecircle8568]

@@jp3813 vision of a son grown up is not a prophecy

[@chrisandrew7577]

Bulma using a capsule to produce a vehicle might be the single only source accurate scene

[@thefilmwatcher1302]

Yet somehow that gets memed on for supposedly being bullshit.

[@toxicdemon1315]

​@thefilmwatcher1302 Because it just looks... wrong. In the show the items would be shrunk down into capsules. This was... an overly complicated transformers transition

[@takashiari1598]

Gokus facial expressions in this movie remind me of that one „When you’re sitting next to your crush and are trying not to fart“ meme...

[@MishKoz]

Speaking of Dragon Ball, Bulma's Japanese voice actress, Hiromi Tsuru passed away last week. She was there since the very first series in 1986.

[@Darnokk15]

maaaaaaaan :(

[@Darnokk15]

Masako Nozawa, though, is 81 and she's doing pretty well, I really hope she lives to be 110 at least

[@MishKoz]

Holy fuck, I didn't realize she was that old. All that screaming would kill anyone's voice regardless of age

[@CarlosThadeu]

Uh...Mish, you know who Bulma is right? She would barely scream compared to the main characters...

[@MishKoz]

I was replying to him about Masako Nozawa, Goku's voice

[@nekonomicon9938]

You know it sucks when fan projects are better than the "professionals"

[@DarkKnightofAnime]

RobotUnderdog's fan work on the Future Trunks Special for instance

[@yumikomiura88]

To be fair, that's how a lot of adaptations turn out. Be it anime, video games, etc.

[@Killenberg]

I thought Dragon Ball: Runaways was pretty good too. It sucks they haven't uploaded an episode in years.

[@KodaKitten333]

*cough cough* DBZA *cough cough*

[@sammalkie1707]

The thing that made the original dragon ball so charming was because it took the clichés and turned them on their heads, Goku's master was an old pervert, the leader of the most deadly army in the world just wanted to get the dragon balls to wish to be taller, all this combined with traditional Chinese folklore made it almost parody-like and really entertaining

[@ChickenSalad001]

"I'm actually Asian in this movie" XD lol gold!

[@enriquemadibavalle7497]

that's stupid because Chichi really resembles a chinese lady

[@Wawagirl17]

"Not much time left." "You can still have cake." I laughed way too damn hard way too early in the morning.

[@loganshaw4527]

I laughed at "and goku's hair grew 2 inches longer." Goku is like a 80s rocker the longer his hair that more power he has. Just look at super sayian 2 vs super sayian 3.

[@LunarSpiral1127]

OMG they weren't kidding about the after-credit scene. Did it really need to be over a minute long just for the Piccolo reveal?! Also, who is that woman? According to the Dragonball Wiki, the woman is the same one at that village where it looked like Mai was gonna shoot her. Don't know if it's true, but if it is then why would Piccolo spare her? How did the woman even find Piccolo? AH, SCREW IT! Movie's done, it's not getting a sequel, so who cares anymore! >:(

[@shawty7303]

My reaction to the end credits scene is, "There's an end credit scene???". I didn't know til I watch this. That's how little I cared when this first came out

[@rando9449]

That was Mai?!?

[@LunarSpiral1127]

@@rando9449 Yep. The woman serving Piccolo in the movie was Mai.

[@CaptainSpycrab]

"Lois, do you have a dragon ball?" "Hey, Brian, check it out, I'm gonna go super saiyan. HehehehehehehehehEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEEEEEE"

[@CX462]

CaptainSpycrab Shut up Krillin.

[@penguinman2233]

@@CX462 *Krillin owned count goes up*

[@rahn45]

The one good thing about this movie: It brought Toriyama back to the series because he didn't want the last thing Dragonball ever made to be that monstrosity.

[@Sawngawkuh]

Sort of. The 2013 film and possible continuations after would've STILL happened regardless, as it was still in production before he got on board. Evolution just motivated him to get involved rather than leave Toei to tackle everything alone.

[@King-ze2kt]

@@Sawngawkuh and toei's original plan for Beerus had him as a dark and serious character instead of the hilarious destroyer we love

[@garrtoons4303]

@@King-ze2kt Idk. I like both. 😅

[@ThatOneIrishPerson]

Surprised and disappointed that you didn't include the clip where they called the special moves of dragon ball z AIRBENDING. They called the Kamehameha wave, a move that we've seen eradicating enemies down to their cells, destroying landscapes and even destroying the moon at one point, "The most basic of all the AIRBENDING techniques"

[@WolfmanSonic]

ThatOne IrishPerson let me put it this way if they did the rage from them would be off the charts

[@dragoninthewest1]

[Confused Air Nation noises]

[@garrtoons4303]

They did in the actual review.

[@rando9449]

Even if we make ourselves stupid enough to make it so dragonball and ATLA aim the same universe, how is the kamehameha air bending? It’s a blue laser.

[@Webshooters1]

Yup, there's a reason Piccolo was chosen because he was the big bad for the end of Dragonball. Just to hit the highlights: 1. Killed Tien, Master Roshi, and Krillin 2. Took over the world albeit briefly 3. Handed Goku his ass several times 4. After having his youth restored he destroyed Shenron so no one could use the dragonballs against him 5. Even when he was defeated he made a reincarnation/son to carry out his revenge on Goku years later and continue his evil legacy.

[@Gamesta100]

Goku Black Piccolo didn't actually kill Krillin. Tambourine actually killed Krillin. That whole scene was sad as hell lol

[@doodleboy565]

Goku Black King Piccolo killed Chiaotzu, not Tien.

[@Matt_Underwood]

Tambourine killed Krillin, Master Roshi exhausted himself to death by using the Mafuba and Tien never died by Piccolo as far as I know. I only know he died after his last attack against Nappa. I do know that he killed Chiaotzu

[@fabiovarra3698]

is chiaotzu the little white guy who follow tienzin? (in Italy we have almost all different name from every charater, for example here Piccolo father is called Al-Satan and Piccolo Junior only Junior) if yes he was killed by Piccolo while he tried to tell his wish to Shenron PS: in italian Piccolo=Little

[@PikminandOatchi]

Tambourine is Piccolos kid and minion so same difference.

[@MFields2178]

After seeing this review and seeing how hot Jamie Chung is, I went out and bought the movie and watched it. It destroyed my PS3. The DVD is stuck in there and the PS3 doesn't even acknowledge its even in there.

[@sebastiancintron29]

Thats what you get for buying shit.

[@Bobby_Corwen]

Unplug and plug in the PS3 then mash the eject button.

[@ThreadBomb]

I'm guessing it was one of those really thin discs? Try tipping the PS3 so the DVD slot is facing down, and then shake it.

[@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist]

+MFields2178 It's as if the movie is so bad, that your PS3 committed suicide just so it could put it's self out of it's misery that was brought on it by having to play the piece of shit for you.

[@SuperHandyman100]

PS3: No...just...just no...not gonna give it back...I'm...I'm done...you broke my trust by playing this shit.

[@death-king1834]

Having watched both Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z this year, having never seen it before, I can totally see why fans hated this crap. I mean holy shit at least Last Airbender captured the general look of the show. This? You could remove 'Dragon Ball'' from the title and call it anything else and it would probably stick.

[@Call_Me_Matrix]

Rob's summary doesn't just apply to anime, it applies to most stories to date.

[@ATBPRODUCTlONS]

He’s turned into 3D pipes!!!!!

[@MALEMization]

In the Bloopers, they laughed so much at that line for no reason!

[@hellkaiser64]

HORNY GOKU !!!

[@KlonoaFan64]

I don't get it :/

[@MALEMization]

+Douglas Levin kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqG5fKJpnZaKi68 Watch this video and you'll get it!

[@Shilster1]

Don't worry we all don't get it

[@zyad48]

"I know this might be hard to believe, but-" "I'm actually asian, in this movie" *ROFL*

[@Jackal_El_Lobo34]

Happy Thanksgiving Doug. It's a time to be thankful... For the fact we'll never see a sequel to this SHITE!

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

Dough, you're looking especially leavened today!

[@Joker3384]

Killeric Longstar For that, any Dragon Ball fan will always be thankful for.

[@DaniAzakura]

Here is the funny thing about how DB handle the whole mentor died part of the show... the show started with Goku's grandfather already dead and Goku had moved on a long time ago... so yeah. xD

[@natemo82]

They also skip the part about Goku killing his Grandfather

[@killer92173]

I can see Chris Stuckman be like, "How DARE you find it laughably bad!!!" I did the same thing tbh :/

[@loganshaw4527]

Ya poeple are really bad at sealing thing the seal either weakens over time or out right brakes over time.

[@isaiahchapman7660]

4:25: "if I have to see another old mentor die in a Goddamn movie" Pretty much sums up uncle Ben

[@misinformation_spreader777]

I smell 1 Milllion subscribers!

[@DigiRangerScott]

Ryan Robertson I DONT CONSENT TO YOU SMELLING ME

[@erichayes1739]

It’s about time nostalgia critic is gold

[@mistycampaign9344]

Finally

[@sansskeleton7263]

And its about damn time

[@jewelmine442]

seriously how come they dont!

[@squatch1565]

Man I wish you guys had gotten Chris Stuckmann to do a scene where you guys call him and ask, "Hey Chris! You're a fan of Dragon Ball right? Wanna review the live action-" and then he ends the call and looks in the distance sorrowfully.

[@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864]

With the music from the Cat in the Hat review when Critic is looking to the sunset.

[@squatch1565]

That would be perfect.

[@RLynnT]

"Help me Goku" *Kicks the one who spoke* Real one: How did you know?! Goku: YOU NEVER ASK FOR HELP!

[@lolo_trolo7402]

You made me realize ANOTHER thing that insults me as a fan and the source material! Dragonball never really had that "old mentor dies" cliche. Grandpa Gohan was dead before the series started. He was more like a "dead parents" stereotype and even that is not 100% the case. And Muten Roshi, Goku's first real mentor in the anime still lives in the current episodes! So here is another bullshit-cherry on top for you...

[@dbzking02]

"His hair is naturally Andrew Garfield" LOL!!!!

[@jantzenbruce2155]

Piccolo turns his head at the end like, "What did we do last night?"

[@WaifuGoddessVA]

Dragon Ball GT is better than Evolution-

[@dnmstarsi]

A Otaku On The Internet Of course. Gt has problems but there were still good shit to watch from it. I need the TFS riff track in order to watch this crap.

[@RandomShinigami7]

That’s the one good thing to come from this movie. GT is no longer the joke of the franchise.

[@fromolwyoming]

Not a high ceiling to break through. Most fan pieces are more true to Dragon Ball then DBE was.

[@lionscave5256]

A Otaku On The Internet Dragon Ball Super is better than Evolution.

[@galaxy_kitten95]

leonardo rodriguez Super isn't even close to being that bad of a series, but whatever. 😒😒

[@SerenityM16]

I just realized, the freaking opening is closer to freaking Legend of Zelda than it is to Dragonball!!!

[@piotrkowalski3869]

When the bike scene popped out and Rob's suspension of disbelief flew out of the window and he was just like: "Sure!"

[@loganshaw4527]

Not much differences with hit button on tiny capsule and puff full size.

[@NarwhalEntertainment]

My favorite thing in Dragonball Evolution is that the kids who bully Goku bully him BECAUSE HE SPENDS ALL HIS TIME TRAINING AT MARTIAL ARTS. Even without show knowledge that's fucking stupid.

[@VGAfanatic]

It might just be me, but because of their affiliation with Team Four Star, I'd kinda like to see Doug or Rob do voice acting with Sound Cadence Studios, which does recording for indie games, anime, webshows, such as Death Battle and RWBY. I mean, Malcolm's voiced for them in a few projects, so I can imagine the Walker Bros. Would get along well with Marissa Lenti or Amber Lee Conners if either were to direct them.

[@animegx45]

-Piccolo in the bed, turning to see the woman. "Who are you?" "My name is Launch." Nah, but could you imagine?

[@UltimateGamerCC]

only Guy that Launch showed any interest in was Tien, but i suppose i could see it.

[@Alondro77]

And the Internet shippers go wild...

[@ThreadBomb]

3:54 "I know this may be hard to believe, but ..." "- I'm actually Asian in this movie!" Click like.

[@qwertybear.7120]

2:10 Rob, You literally just described fifty percent of every plots.

[@Undead853]

Close to 1 million. :)

[@grosiradu]

This movie was atrocious, they changed all the lore. Goku is not Japaneses, he is an alien from planet Vegita, he was never a dork or in school, he was only interested in training and getting better, also Chichi was the one that was after him, not the other way around.

[@bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257]

@@UltimateGamerCC well, Goku did get brain damage as a baby, which is why he's like this. If he hadn't fallen on his head, he wouldn't be the character we all know and love!

[@SerenityM16]

Seriously, that’s part of what made Dragonball interesting is that Chichi just kinda decided, you’re my boyfriend now, and Goku went, ummm, ok, whatever I guess XD

[@mentaya11]

Ohhhhhh! She was supposed to be *Chichi*! I honestly was wondering who she was. I havn't watched the movie and it's been a while since I saw the review. None of the characters were remotely like the anime/manga, so I was having trouble. Goku and Piccolo were obvious, but that was it.

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

@@mentaya11 I really don't know what's going on with Bulma's hair in this. If you look back at the show, she's had so many interesting looks, yet they went with...a top knot? That's supposed to be Chi-Chi's look. But the knot just spills out after that, what were they going for with this style?

[@MrYass24]

I died at the end when you said Piccolo's face was like "You're still here?" Lmfaaaao

[@chaoschikin2875]

I binged these 1st Viewing episodes in an afternoon. Love seeing their initial reactions

[@skylergulley3949]

I only accept this movie if it was directed, written, produced and financed by Mr. Popo just so he could add to the pecking order. Mr.Popo: "Ok, maggots Popo is going to tell you the pecking order. There's you, DBE, the dirt, the worms in the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami and Popo. Any questions."

[@Speedstreak]

The original director: uh, yeah, how about.....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Mr. Popo: Any more questions? Good. Then we can begin.

[@mardenjunior1799]

The strangest part of this shit...DragonBall actually has nothing to do with the old mentor dying thing. You know the grandpa in this movie? At the first episode of DB, he was already dead. And was not the inspiration for Goku`s journey or any of that...Goku seemed pretty fine and resolved in that department. This characters are just share the same names as the ones in the anime. The story? More like a shitty spiderman than dragonball really.

[@AcceptGamingDKD]

You complain about how the bike appeared out of nowhere from a little device, but in the anime they have little capsules that can turn into full hover cars. So yes it makes sense in the DBZ world. Tho it is indeed ridiculous it is something they did get right....sorta.

[@SonicmaniaVideos]

It's because of the lack of world building...they got it right, but in an adaptation it still requires explanations. Dragon Ball just had a way to transport stuff via capsules...

[@AcceptGamingDKD]

Yea but its the same thing essentially

[@fabiovarra3698]

one of the bigger problem of the film is that for the most part look like our world, whitout nothing out of the ordinary, so the capsule thing looks totaly out of place while DragonBall was clear that was a fantasy world, with dinosaurs, monster, flying car ecc.

[@humanconvertile]

They're not reviewing the Anime, just the movie. Even if the Anime explains things better, the movie is clearly not supposed to be a product that is based on the source material's canon/continuity, so it shouldn't be required to watch Dragon Ball/DBZ to understand the movie if the movie was written well.

[@tibblez88]

Keep in mind they said they never watched the show.

[@nathanross7448]

9:36 to be fair, in the original the very first wish made was for the most comfortable underwear in the universe

[@theanxiousace3783]

Third time I've watched this and I still die at "bless this lemonade"! XD

[@legendaryhero132]

It would be funny in the Japanese dub of Evolution if Goku was voiced by Masako Nozawa.

[@utterfool2164]

Just the original anime cast as their... *ahem*... "counterparts. That'd probably make it way more tolerable.

[@dnmstarsi]

It would be funny but not worth it. Even if Nozawa or the Funimation cast (if they gave a damn about this shit unless it was to make it... tolerable) dubbed this movie, it wouldn't save this film plus it'd be a waste of her vocal talent IMHO.

[@thegreatherox]

well, the mexican dub did have both goku adn piccolo's original VAs to return to their character because.... fans demanded it..... and it made it .001% less painful to watch

[@SakuraAvalon]

If TFS re wrote the dialogue and dubbed it, that'd be great.

[@majinsole8554]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! ~_~

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

Too bad the original plot of this show was literally Goku going on adventures and had no real overarching theme. Sometimes he was training, sometimes it was going to get dragonballs just because, sometimes it was fight the red ribbon army, sometimes it was travel the world and learn training things. Piccolo took such a small portion of the orginal anime (Dragonball not Z) and Piccolo's goal was to regain his youth. That was it.

[@Joker3384]

I find it funny that Rob and Doug hadn’t seen anything about the show, and they found a way to make something more faithful to the anime. Then compare what they managed to make to the giant group of people who made this movie with a budget!!! Overall, it’s really impressive.

[@QuintessenceHD]

I actually fell asleep during this movie and woke up to the final "fight" scene... My body literally saved me.

[@despadas]

wait, there was an after credits scene?!

[@xgray2012]

Daniel García Yeah, there actually was a post-credit scene in this god-awful movie.

[@DigiRangerScott]

Daniel García It features his mom. As a corpse

[@nobodyimportant2470]

They had to set up the sequel that they though was certain to happen. They thought this because they didn't watch their own movie or even read the script.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

wait, WHO's mom now? neither Goku or Chichi had mothers in the anime, good god they fuck it up THAT badly to insert originally absent parents?? so many sins that movie commits, it belongs in the center of Movie Hell, or HFIL if that's too harsh.

[@Hannah-uc4vb]

This was great!!! Please try to review the Death Note movie sometime!! I'm a huge fan of the show, and this movie beyond passed me off. I just want to see what you'd have to say about it!!

[@averagegamecritic]

I wonder if the Emoji movie will be up for it next. Definitely needs it.

[@joshuaobryan4896]

critic abuse! no one should be subjected to that filthburger

[@TheManOfManyNames373]

"Shit, I hope he doesn't know I was trying to blow that up..." I really wish that joke made the review. It probably didn't fit anywhere in the script, but it was still funny as hell.

[@xXBlackDragoonXx]

You know an adaptation is bad when non-fans of the source material know that if they were fans that they would be a LOT more pissed.

[@twmax6525]

Lol, that ending going into the credits and their commentary, hilarious.

[@MetalB1985]

The funny thing is, in the original Dragon Ball story his grandfather was already dead for some months before the story starts (Goku's killed him, while he became an giant ape and he didn't know about it). So even the original story the artist had a small twist on this trope. Goku also didn't wish him back, since his grandfather told him (long story), he didn't wanted to go back. Goku's second mentor (Master Roshi) died in the third arc (he isn't even the first friend of Goku to die).

[@Lishadra]

5:14 sums up my reaction to everything once I’m just too pissed off to be pissed off. “-Sure.”

[@kittyanya]

They got Bulma and Chichi’s personalities mixed up, Goku can’t shift into the monkey form because his tail was wished off in the original, bad Piccolo was killed in the original Dragon Ball and the new one trains Goku’s son and sort of alliances with the world to fight back the new Saiyan invaders. If they wanted to go with the transformation and evil Piccolo, Goku would 1) need a tail and 2) be a child.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

"wished off"? when the hell did that happen? i thought between DB and DBZ they surgically removed the root of his tail, which kept it from coming back. does that mean they wished off Vegeta's too after the Frieza Saga?

[@mystic-malevolence]

...I thought it could just only regrow when he was a child, so after a while it stopped regrowing... like how it takes longer to recover from certain injuries as you get older. I don't remember it being wished off?

[@alex_-yz9to]

The Gaming Paladin a robot Ripped it off like nobody's buisness

[@kaleiohulee6693]

Bad film, but I did't that care Goku wasn't Japanese since the character is an alien. Common misconception in foreign adaptations, a creator's ethnicity doesn't always correlate to the characters they create.

[@Sawngawkuh]

But the point is he's very obviously an Asian-derived character. Toriyama even gave him a Bruce Lee-esque design on one of his Kanzenban covers. Just because he's an alien doesn't negate the fact that it would've been more suitable to have an Asian play as him, just as there'd be resistance over Superman's actor being played by someone who wasn't Caucasian.

[@davidreeder43]

It really boggles my mind thst someone can see 300 anime BEFORE seeing any Dragon Ball. That's basically the industry ambassidor.

[@Troommate]

Just noticed 3k more subscribers until you hit the Big 1 MILLION! :D Congrats!

[@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155]

I remember seeing this and the last airbender in the theater. I’ve shut out most of what I saw those days

[@jasondamrau9943]

Crazy to me how both Doug and Rob completely missed Dragon Ball

[@joshtheeditor7284]

I just realized it sounds like Rob described the new Power Ranger movie when he summing up the movie at 1:46

[@Gamesta100]

Goku was something like 4 years old in DB lol He met Chi-chi and Bulma at that age. Grandpa Gohan was killed by great ape goku before DB started. King Piccolo arrived when Goku was also still a very young child.

[@nobodyimportant2470]

He was 12 at the start of DB. He though he was 13 until Roshie taught him to count properly

[@Gamesta100]

NobodyImportant I never remember his age lol

[@UltimateGamerCC]

actually Goku was probably 11 at the beginning of DB, then when he meets Krillin he turned 12. EDIT: oh wait, or was he 12? bah, i havent watched Dragonball in months, so i forget.

[@DemonicsInc]

Gamesta100 he was 14

[@marshallseldon4200]

In the manga Goku was 11 when he met bulma. He only thought he was 14 due him not being able to count correctly. When he was training with Krillin he eventually turn 12 after Roshi taught him how to count properly. Also his training took over the course of 7 months so there's that. This is me being nick picky so this part you don't have to read. After Goku defeated the Red Ribbon army, met his dead grandpa after beating him, he explore the world for 3 years for the next tournament. When he meet Tien he was 15 at the time. After killing King Piccolo 3 years past again and he was 18 at the time. 5 years later (cause DBZ took place 5 years after he defeated Piccolo's son) he's about 23 when Raditz came around. 1 year later he is 24, went to Namek, spent a year and a half in space now 25, 3 years later during the android saga 28 (29 after he got out of the time chamber), 7 years later when the Majin Buu saga started he was 36 ( I know he was dead at the time so he didn't age but I don't care). Now in DBS which took lace a few years after Majin Buu's defeat he's about 39-early forties as of now. Like I said you don't need to read that last paragraph I was just putting it out there cause I felt like it. If I miss a detail or two let me know.

[@alexramey2062]

Rob making Doug laugh will never not be enduring.

[@Jayfive276]

*BEFORE YOU MASTER YOUR KI, YOU MUST MASTER YOUR SCHLONG.*

[@BornofIron]

I honestly feel its impossible to make a solid live action shonen. You can probably get away with something like MHA since its basically "japanese super heroes" but American filmaking cant really make a story of a "annoyingly chipper space monkey fights literally everything the universe throws at him while screaming to make his hair grow and change colors while 50% is filler/drawn out misadventures 25%is heavy grunting and breathing and the 20% is fighting and the other 5% is sex jokes". Edit: Don't worry, reader, I watch and enjoy DBZ. Hell my first game on the One was Xenoverse.

[@connornoiles2447]

All you need to know about "Real Goku" is.. He likes fighting, but doesn't like hurting people.

[@ccody-long6915]

A channel awesome video before 1K views?! THIS IS TRULY AN HONOUR!!

[@michaelnelson1127]

10:40 Maybe you should’ve gone with the Music Man version: “Piccolo Piccolo Piccolo Piccolo CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP! That’s exactly what this movie is.”

[@darroth42]

the beaten-dog 'sure.' from rob during the bike-making-unfolding nonsense is the best thing i've ever seen on this channel, i think.

[@MarelorMoon]

The sad thing is: they could have done something new with the "sensing the real person" cliché: in the anime and in this pile of garbage they call a movie, Goku has the ability to sense person's lifeforces, he even could sense his grandfather and Master Roshi. So it made no sense, that he couldn't sense the real ChiChi and the writers even abused the Kamehameha for this: it's a deadly attack, not a reviving attack.

[@t.c.thompson2359]

I rented Dragon Evolution from redbox but before I got a chance to see it I heard the reviews, I still have that rental from 9 years ago. The fact that I prevented others from watching that is my greatest achievement.

[@ZadnoleyaEdits]

I wonder if the walker bros knew they were also talking about the Justice League plot at the beginning...

[@tkcritic7368]

3:54 Chi-Chi: I know this maybe hard to believe, but... Rob: I'm actually Asian in this movie! LOL!!!

[@PlanetAwesomenessProductions]

4:52 Grandma Gohan laughs in the afterlife

[@wanton-strumpet]

"old mentor's having a meeting place" in heaven is an amazing sentiment

[@sammydray5919]

I have a feeling Malcolm should have been there!! Would have made it 9000 times better XD

[@adiahaalexander9359]

Sammy Dray I see what you did there

[@ezmoney4598]

I love how the filmmakers take Piccolo Jr., the most lonely character in Dragon Ball when he was a villain, and give him a sidekick and minions.

[@CButtonshaw]

Clearly not drunk enough for this movie

[@lliamsmith5859]

To be honest, it's kinda good you guys don't know much about dragonball. I love it, grew up with it and watched/read every piece of media from it....I CANNOT FAIRLY JUDGE THIS MOVIE xD i'm normally not to bad at separating an adaptation from the source material and will judge it on it's own merit...I can't do with this, i just can't, it is SO distant from it's source it's painful. Also so glad you got Martin and Lawrence (lol martin lawrence) to help write the script aswell, it worked well having the inside and outside perspectives. And HOLY SH*T!!!!!!!! 997 K subs, sooo close, you guys bloody well deserve that gold play button (well diamond really, but one step at a time), CONGRATS!!

[@majinsole8554]

This movie hurt so bad to watch that I got a zenkai boost afterwards once I recovered from viewing it. ~_~

[@scorbunnystaralicia5589]

1:13 you had me at FMA Doug 😁 I fucking LOVE Fullmetal Alchemist

[@alsinakiria]

Every time I see that kiss all I can think is "Goku has never kissed Chichi!!!" Why oh why must they get everything wrong?" He doesn't even know what kissing is.

[@decusq]

I cannot stand the arrogance of filmmakers who see an animated film or cartoon and say "I could do it better in live action!" NO! You can't! Why? BECAUSE IT"S ANIMATION!! There is a reason why people LOVE animation, it's because we can lose ourselves in it more easily. We love to imagine ourselves as one of those cartoon or anime characters and pretend we could do all this stuff to. The minute you try to adapt this to live action your movie is guaranteed to fail. Animation is able to do things that we as live people CANNOT do in rel life no matter how much CGI bullshit you put on it or strings you attach to the people.

[@goodvillain1015]

I have feeling Hollywood can make a decent Cowboy Bebop adaption. The anime basically has a western tone, so no whitewash complaints. And it also doesn't have over-the-top action scenes, so effect don't look like shit.

[@Spookiester]

You fool you cursed us..... Netflix got the deal

[@MrEdit-ic7th]

Well, this aged like fine wine didn't it?

[@jeremylatta9038]

The theme song of this 'First Viewing' show feels like it belongs in a Civilisation game

[@PerovNigma]

You need to do your next 1st Viewing on helium! While drunk!

[@PizzaHutAsuka]

The first viewing is when Rob and Doug make essential notes that ultimately shape the NC review, so...

[@Jesterclown17]

Okay, Doug. Just to give you a better idea of how badly they botched this adaption... Speed Racer was a far more faithful adaptation to it's source material, with better writing, better acting and and better special effects. And we all know how much you loved that movie.

[@MagnusSkiptonLLC]

I actually started watching Dragon Ball for the first time a couple months ago, and intend to follow it all the way through Super (yes, even GT. Even though I hear it's terrible, I figure I may as well see WHY it's terrible).

[@Gamesta100]

Skippy the Magnificent I like GT. It's a mix of DB and DBZ. DB was mostly about adventure and DBZ was all mostly about the fighting. GT is probably equally about both.

[@MagnusSkiptonLLC]

Cool, I'm actually really liking the adventure aspect of DB, and the world-building. It really feels like a huge expansive world, a quality a lot of shows and books don't have.

[@therobotchickenMLP]

Skippy the Magnificent When you reach Z, just watch Kai.

[@Gamesta100]

Depends on whether you want to see the version of Z with lots of filler but more violence/gore or Kai with the filler taken out but also a lot of violence toned down.

[@Aplesedjr]

Gt isn't as bad as most people make it out to be. The beginning is pretty meh, but it gets better after that.

[@a_wretch_like_me9665]

7:40 "Grandpa always said if I wanted to matter my Keeeeeee..." Lmao