The Owl House and Writing Good Relationships

[@manicseacucumbers4194]

Fun fact: Amity started actually trying to get to know Luz after she was given the Good Witch Azura book, which was the one where Azura befriended her rival

[@DrawpinionDump]

the layers here are just [chef's kiss]

[@ItzZay1]

Hmmm.. azura befriending her rival.. that reminds me of something...

[@sobecksisters]

sjsjfsh as fun as that would be its not true unfortunately:(

[@miniyee]

@@no-cs3fx in Dana's reddit q and a she said that her hair was dyed green because of her mother

[@crayonsmmmm3509]

@@miniyee Yes, but maybe she chose that particular shade to look like Azura & pretended there wasn't any closer to her sibling's colour

[@liladoveranimations5894]

Dana Terrace said that Luz isn't oblivious. The reason Luz doesn't realize Amity's crushing moments is because she is too focused on everything else that is going on, and that she isn't really noticing love at that moment.

[@Frostfern94]

I read somewhere that Luz is going to be confronting her Bisexual-ness in season 2? So that might help. I couldn't tell you if it's true or not and I'm not sure if it's reliable but

[@pantheraviva]

I HAVE A CRUSH AND *HER* NAME IS EDUCATION

[@maddie7820]

@@Frostfern94 Oh I saw that Luz is going to having a coming out moment which I’m excited for

[@anidleteen]

@@maddie7820 ooh where did you see that?

[@maddie7820]

@@anidleteen Here’s the link to the article www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/the-owl-house-star-wendie-malick-calls-disneys-first-bisexual-tv-character-a-big-step It has the voice actor eda saying her opinion on luz being bi and it says Luz will come out i’m pretty sure

[@idkanymore4664]

In my opinion, i dont think amity hates weirdos. She was just taught to not make friends of them because of her parents wants her to have friends that are popular or powerful

[@ZipTheSilliest]

You are right actully

[@martincastro6051]

That’s true

[@OlliOtter]

That’s literally exactly how they explained it in “Understanding Willow”

[@idkanymore4664]

@@OlliOtter oh I guess so- but like in this video I think there was a part where she said amity hates weirdos

[@feraflauna3238]

@@OlliOtter From what it appears, Amity really loved Willow as a friend. Willow appears to be the closest friend she ever had before Luz. Her parents forced her to end that friendship, bullied her into it, to where Willow grew up hating Amity for it, never knowing that it was Amity's parents that forced her to do that. I think it's easy to say after Amity was forced to severe ties with the only true friend she had, she was partly afraid to get close to anyone else. She picked friends that her parents would approve of. Friends that weren't really friends and she knew that. A lot of her petty nastiness when Luz first met her was that she was so desperately trying to be the person her parents molded her to be. Someone she wasn't even happy to be. But she didn't know at that point how to be herself, or even who she is anymore.

[@cha_de_Camomila]

Amity: Gay panic Luz: Bi confusing

[@wellthen4128]

Why are you gae?

[@soulxblugamer]

@@wellthen4128 Why not

[@analivargas9141]

@@wellthen4128 zendaya, sarah paulson, willow, catra, cassie, amity, adora, garnet, gemma styles, cate blanchett, kristen bell, sadie sink, carmen sandiego, dua lipa, sabrina carpenter, helena bonham carter, gigi hadid, rowan blanchard, bella hadid, adriana lima, sza, scarlett johanson, lauren jauregui, rihanna, raven queen, cerice hood, clawdeen wolf, lexa kom trikru, aoc, margot robbie, samara weaving, gal gadot, alex danvers, sarah lance, lena luthor, viola davis, meghan fox, nicki minaj, killer frost, ariana grande, taylor swift, vanessa morgan, mary saotome, kirari momobami, lili reinhart, rei batsubami, lydia martin, tonks, bellatrix, luna lovegood, clairo, malia tate, marie ulven, queen angella, mermista, scorpia, entrapta, ellen page, anne hathaway, megara, mulan, marylin monroe, sophia lills, maya hawke, amybeth mcnulty, melanie martinez, hermione granger, sanatana lopez, sandra bullock, elsa, camila cabello, jennifer lawrence, jisoo, coraline, kida, merida, kendall jenner, brie larson, kiernan shipka, ririka momobami, alison argent, elastigirl, my bff and probably any woman to ever exist

[@dianeyoung6289]

@@analivargas9141 are u namin off da gay? :D

[@analivargas9141]

@@dianeyoung6289 no, im the gay one ;)

[@rolanslide8509]

"I could dissect the plot but no Im gonna focus on the gays" mood

[@Detective_Grav]

😂

[@theauburnfirefox8767]

Me watching any show with the slightest bit of lgbt representation

[@Detective_Grav]

@@theauburnfirefox8767 the gayness just keeps coming back to me I was watching season 1 of Kipo and I got caught off guard when Benson came out and when I saw toh I didn't think much of it and continued to watch the show back in January when it came out I watch Lost in Language and I started shipping Lumity but not thinking the ship would go that far then I saw Adventures in the elements and was like "yeah, ok I could see this happening". I saw the trailer for season 1 b and it was like 1 in the morning and I almost threw my phone across the room in excitement at Luz and Amity. Ah yes good times

[@earrent3705]

1:11

[@lisa101561]

Honestly tho

[@saturn7437]

The best part about the development of their relationship? They never speak about their sexualities outright or make it a big deal. It's just a person liking another person, which is what makes it so special.

[@hydnumm9219]

I think it's fine if they state their sexualities outright as long as they use the actual terms (Like in KIPO's case) especially in kids shows. I do like how they never made it a big deal and Amity's crush was never the center of the plot

[@astro9286]

Bastard I agree to some extent but I don’t believe they should say their sexualities out loud. You wouldn’t see someone running around saying they are straight so I don’t believe they should either since it’s not much of a big deal.

[@hydnumm9219]

@@astro9286 Yeah I agree that it's not that big of a deal, but I feel like if a show is going to have a gay character "come out" it's important to say "I'm gay" instead of skirting around the subject and not addressing it directly

[@astro9286]

Bastard I believe if representation in shows and movies for the LGBT community to exist. I want them to normalize it like being straight. I believe if you’ll want to normalize something you treat it like it’s normal not something worth putting in work to do so. That’s just my 2 cents.

[@astro9286]

Bastard well I agree, only if it doesn’t seem forceful or in the audiences face.

[@krbthewitch]

Two precious magic beans act cute and awkward together. What's not to love?

[@kmmk5022]

It’s like the best cartoon ship of 2020-2021

[@Detective_Grav]

@@kmmk5022 frickin agreed and that's comming from someone who is a big shipper

[@kmmk5022]

Gravity Vs The Forces Of Universe hey did ya know Lumity as a new song

[@Detective_Grav]

@@kmmk5022 I knows theres "Two Worlds Apart" and the Little Miss Perfect sequel "Ordinary" which I'm going to make into an animatic soon

[@kmmk5022]

Gravity Vs The Forces Of Universe Can do the two worlds apart animatic with the full song? I’d totally watch it and I’m a bit surprised nobody animated that song yet

[@tami3421]

The only thing I REALLY HOPE doesn’t happen is amity’s crush thing going overboard where it ends up being toxic and creepy like adrienette.

[@astraightfemalewhodoesntma674]

It's about to.

[@Lividities]

@@astraightfemalewhodoesntma674 how so?

[@starrynight1165]

@@astraightfemalewhodoesntma674 how

[@yahyah5321]

@@astraightfemalewhodoesntma674 how

[@chillysaurus5398]

AStraightFemale WhoDoesntMatter *lmao at least amity can still act and talk properly in front of luz*

[@nox8600]

Amity doesn’t really have a talent for magic, she is skilled from working so hard at it.

[@lawrenceadriennevalero3633]

especially after that fight

[@Detective_Grav]

@@lawrenceadriennevalero3633 yeah, when those 2 work together they're very powerful

[@martincastro6051]

Yeah that’s why she hated luz at first for cheating and getting the easy way out and taking her star away that she worked very hard for and willow and luz didn’t

[@quincius8638]

She has both since her parents push her past her limit with cruel punishments and abuse

[@ThePonderer]

I haven’t felt THIS Strong about a canon OTP in a long time. Freakin love this show, and this video captures the appeal really well.

[@ZipTheSilliest]

Same

[@willowarkan2263]

Idk, for me Catradora is def a contender, though Lumity's ship name is better. It makes me think of light, which just makes it even better.

[@phoenixsweet1697]

Ikr!

[@mob756]

@@willowarkan2263 I love catradora and lumity ajsidjfbcbc

[@bearcat2183]

Lumity and catradora are literally the only ships that make me feel truly connected to the ship

[@animallover5843]

Something I love is that, in most gay characters thats their only.. Personality. That the only thing about them is "gay" and nothing more. But The Owl House has made sure this didn't happen, witch I LOVE

[@zoed2126]

I love the hinted in witch pun, and if you didn't mean to do that and it was a typo...sorry?

[@animallover5843]

@@zoed2126 pun intended lol

[@imanotterwithadarkside9986]

What about Cyrus from andi mack? He’s gay and really funny

[@animallover5843]

@@imanotterwithadarkside9986 Never heard of that show/ movie? But thats really cool

[@imanotterwithadarkside9986]

@@animallover5843 it’s a show and you should watch it. It’s really good. It’s on Disney plus

[@missZoey5387]

"sent to summer camp to help control her creativity." It was more like her mom was worried that she wouldn't be able to function in society. Luz' mom asks her if she has any real friends, which at the start was no. Her mom was quite clearly doing what she thought was best for her daughter, even if it was perhaps misguided.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

I think she’s just afraid that Luz would be bullied for the way she is. The whole theme of the Owl House seems to be acceptance: finding the place you belong. I think her mom was worried that Luz would never be accepted anywhere, and I personally like to believe the summer camp route was something she saved as a last resort. I don’t think she HATES the way Luz loses herself in fantasy: she just wants a future for her daughter where she won’t be ostracised for liking fantasy a lot or losing herself in her own ideas.

[@missZoey5387]

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios That sounds highly probable.

[@feraflauna3238]

+Zoey Martin-Exactly. Her mom is not afraid that Luz is crazy creative, she probably loves that about her daughter. She is probably proud that Luz is fearless and unafraid about not fitting in. She's still just more of a traditional mom where she's more scared society is not going to accept Luz for who she is. She is misguided and goes about it entirely the wrong way, but it's a fear that stems from her being a mom. Moms want their children to be loved and accepted, even if they sometimes often aren't. And it breaks a mom's heart when their child has a problem fitting in. Her mom is under the mistaken belief that Luz needs to conform in order to fit in and be accepted. But she just wants her daughter to be happy. Her world is going to be blown whenever she finds out exactly how Luz is spending her summer but once she gets past the shock of the magic witch world, the monsters, and the witch girlfriend, she will be happy for Luz and that Luz finally found where she belongs.

[@hodzal5258]

Luz brought snakes and fireworks to school and didn’t understand what she did wrong or even seemed sorry about it. What her mother did was understandable but sometimes the fandoms paints her out to be a bad mom when she’s not

[@ToastyBrain]

Honestly Lumity is written so well and Amity's character progression is really good despite it going as fast as it is.

[@cnsayin8847]

Facts

[@kapitan7357]

Amity is basically Chloé Bourgeois if her creator didn't hate her guts.

[@jaidatuggle3987]

I think most of us in the fandom are just so used to the will they or won't they thing.

[@demisketch1840]

I think it’s cool how even though it does progress quickly, the pacing is so good that it works

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

I’ll tell ya why. A) They are adorable af. B) Unlike other shows, they don’t cram the ship down our throats or derail the plot. Lumity progresses naturally: as all good relationships do. C) They don’t make a big deal about it. They don’t scream their sexualities or how they’re “progressive” from the rooftops for the world to hear. Dana just showed us Lumity, and went: “Yeah. They’re girls. They like each other. It’s not a big deal.”

[@hodzal5258]

@@lyraoctavia7518 A) agreed B) I must disagree, Amity going from rival to gay panic had no build up and was rushed. Had she started having a crush on Luz in season 2 it would have been more natural C) the show doesn’t the fans certainly do the point everything else in the show gets overshadowed

[@hodzal5258]

@@lyraoctavia7518 she ra was all ship not plot and tons of plot-holes. Kippo did it better

[@samanthagordon9582]

@@hodzal5258 she ra was amazing! First of all, we barely see any romance until season 5. Catra and adora stay Enemies with a little tension until season 5, and while there are a few moments like in promise and princess prom, it’s well done so they can continue fighting, and they furthermore help show why they fight. The plot progresses well and can be a little rushed at times, but in the end it’s such a good story with so many other amazing characters that don’t even have love interests. And everything was wrapped up in a nice bow at the end, I don’t remember there being any kind of missing piece. (Although I do have to agree that kipo was really good)

[@jamieg2427]

@@hodzal5258 the appeal of Luz is immediately apparent: brave, selfless, quirky, hard working, kind, ambitious. Amity saw all these over several episodes. i don't see how we need more of a build up. then, in the library episode, Luz and Amity are trying to save each other, then Luz jokingly yells, making Amity laugh. i dunno about you, but if someone you're physically attracted to is making you laugh, that's an instant crush.

[@mehmeh5615]

Dude Luz is totally into Amity too. I mean the episodes after she met amity she would not stop talking to her, and in the book episode she was so desperate to befriend amity she went to her siblings. Honestly I see myself in Luz in a lot of ways (and that’s not really a good thing since she often makes me die if cringe), and honestly I acted just like Luz with my first crush (though I also acted like amity as well). This is not even mentioning adventures in elements where the entire plot is based around not embarrassing herself in front of amity, and she is talking the entire time about how she wants to be in amity’s class. I mean she doesn’t even mention willow or gus, but she is so unbelievably concerned about being with amity. I think Luz has a crush on amity but doesn’t realize it yet and thinks that amity is just someone she really really wants to be friends with.

[@pastelthefoxyt4588]

Meh Meh I completely agree

[@waffleswithice4001]

Ya and I think in the second season she will realize her feelings for amity somehow

[@tsabitahgalaxy5863]

Hmm femiliar aint it? Miraculous ladybug is the same also

[@katdiaz7997]

@@tsabitahgalaxy5863 omg don’t come at me with miraculous, I’m so tired of how drawn out and cringey it is but I NEED to know how it ends. So annoying, owl house is 10x better

[@tsabitahgalaxy5863]

@@katdiaz7997 exactly no hate for mlb its just that its getting pretty stressing over the years and sooo boring as well the plot stayed the same for 3 seasons and a spesial! Meanwhile with owl house has a relativly fast but exciting plot line and its only been SEASON 1?! boy would i love to see how this show will progress over the years

[@kmmk5022]

What I like best about Lumity is that I love how they treated so casually like that it’s like any other ship like it’s simply a person liking another person. I have a feeling that there will be a tint of drama in Lumity when it comes to Mr and Mrs Blight. They probably won’t take a liking to Luz. And if they were to figure out amity’s crush on Luz. They probably won’t take kindly to it. They’ll discriminate Luz for not only being human and for being a girl, but for also associating with Eda and Lilith who are wanted criminals. If the blights threatened willow of expulsion, imagine what they’ll do to Luz. It will probably be something 10 times worse. Perhaps lock her up or exiled, or even executed. I also think with Boscha and her family being allies of Amity and the rest of the Blights, Boscha could play a bigger role. She probably will find out about Amity’s crush on Luz and use that information to her advantage and use it against amity. She’ll blackmail amity with her crush on Luz to get her into ditching Luz and Co, taking advantage of her weakness. And with the grom episode, her fear could be more than just being rejected by Luz. She could be scarred of rejection, coming out, being ostracized by society. I have a feeling their love story could be a Romeo and Juliet thing. Also cue the song Rewrite the Stars. Maybe either the Blights and/or the Emperors Coven could host a like a fancy party or something. Or maybe celebrate Amity’s birthday, for the nobility and powerful witches I mean. It could be like a masquerade ball. With Luz, Eda, and King NOT invited obviously. But the three crash the party anyways. And perhaps Luz and amity could dance together then. I have ideas for dialogue of how the sneaking in scene could go “Names.” The guard said to Luz and the others Luz and the others then got to the gates “Names.” The guard said “Uhhhh....my name is Bob. Bob uhhhhh....” Luz looked over to a door to a men’s bathroom “Mensroom” “And I’m Bob....Bob.....” Gus looked at a sign “Stayoffthegrass” “And I’m Bob. Bob....” King looked at a sign “Dontfeedthebatsquirrels” “And I’m Bob....Bob....” VIney looked somewhere “Mumbleson” “I’m Bob...” Willow looked at a kid eating popcorn “...Popcorn.” “I’m Bob...” Eda saw a moth fly next to her “...Moth” “I’m Bob...” Jerbo saw a kid with a bobcut hairdo “...Cut. And this is my dog, Bob...” Barcus woofs “Woof.”

[@icedshadow5789]

... I thougth they treatment to 'cut' out willow from her live. Like a subtle death treat. I migth need to rewatch the episode.

[@kmmk5022]

Iced Shadow what do ya mean

[@icedshadow5789]

@@kmmk5022 .... it seem I have a disturbing mind, a mind that imaginated a subtle death threat. I think the words *sever* your friendship and *or we will* kinda stuck in my memory in a wrong way.

[@icedshadow5789]

@@kmmk5022 I've watched the episode again.

[@icedshadow5789]

I was wrong. My memory failed me again. *CURSE YOU MEMORY CURSE YOOOUUUUUUUUUU*

[@viae.2826]

I still love how in the episode where Luz goes on a “quest” she talks about whether she should be an optimistic protagonist or a broody protagonist with “black nail polish and a don’t care attitude” and while Luz fills the first Amity fills the second

[@tomykong2915]

Wow the wonderful person who knows their media and gay characters is tackling the gay beans in the best magic learning show

[@malcolmjenkins3585]

I'm all for it, but I feel like the relationship was very rushed, and it kind of ruined amity's character. But that's my opinion.

[@tomykong2915]

@@malcolmjenkins3585 i think most would disagree, they aren't dating, just a one sided crush that has a chance. Her character wasn't just a the rich jerk who stays that for ever before randomly changing their mind, she just had some temporary spite due to her previous world kinda being shattered and from there she realized it was dumb after their witches duel and kinda forgave luz before jumping to conclusions when luz was being pressured into things then forgave luz for that since she understood the situation better, there was nothing left to fuel the hatred and crushes are usually either super dragged out or sudden irl, this relationship is oddly accurate to how relationships work, like it eould have been nice to see a bit more of that in between shift, but the team had time constraints and did well despite them

[@malcolmjenkins3585]

@@tomykong2915 i don't want her to be a rich jerk, I wanted her to be super determined to get into the emperor's coven, that she would have to make some choices that weren't morally ethical. I'd rather have her ditch willow on her own choice because she thought her undeveloped magic was a bad influence, than her being blackmailed by her parents.

[@tomykong2915]

@@malcolmjenkins3585 that's a different character than she even was shown to be in our first episode seeing her

[@malcolmjenkins3585]

@@tomykong2915 well, un that case you're right, but I thought covention showcased her character pretty good, until it kinda got butchered.

[@VisSpellBook]

Did I freak out when they danced? Does me hyperventilating and crying and turning into a mess count? ...I think it does.

[@kmmk5022]

For sure

[@tripletorment5878]

*d o s e*

[@mertensiam3384]

@@tripletorment5878 I was gonna say that

[@ceciraegagnon1901]

omg you should see me screaming gay panic during the little thing between them THAT DANCE KILLED ME

[@kmmk5022]

ceci rae I wanna see

[@Rman94]

I just hope if Lumity does happen it doesn't take till the series final for them to get together. The "will they or will they not" trope can old real quick. What we got in season 1 was fine, great even but don't drag it out.

[@Rman94]

@shaquille mccray that too, Starco dragged on sooo long.

[@kmmk5022]

I’m sure they’ll get together around mid maybe end season 2 or 3 if they do make season 3. We gotta wait for Luz to reciprocate though

[@tyrant-den884]

Between Friends, The World God Only Knows, and She-Ra: everything you can get out that trope has been milked.

[@tyrant-den884]

@@Rman94 only to wrap up too quickly😢

[@Jrookus]

km mk nah it’ll happen early in season 2, this story DOES NOT slow down

[@tyrant-den884]

Eda's curse doesn't even have to be mental issues. It resonated with me because of my MS; and mine rarely presents itself by effecting my behavior.

[@DrawpinionDump]

i think my mind shifted towards mental illness because that's closer to my reality; but I agree that Eda's curse resonates with a lot of other disabilities and conditions as well!

[@ilikenougat8892]

@@DrawpinionDump Eda basically has magic diabietes

[@natesmodelsdoodles5403]

@@DrawpinionDump Not to mention chronic stuff like Arthritis, Lyme Disease, and Long Covid.

[@rita6355]

Luz does actually seem to reciprocate her feelings it's probably that she expresses her affection differently

[@isabelguerreiro9910]

She's as dense as a brick wall. She probably dint even noticed that Amity has crush on her

[@hyena234thekids7]

Well considering the fact how outcasted she was,she probably doesn't think anyone would have romantic feelings for her.Plus she's got a lot on her mind right now,so she's probably not focusing on how Amity acts around her.Like yeah she's oblivious at the moment,but give some time, she'll figure it out.

[@isabelguerreiro9910]

@@hyena234thekids7 exactly, I bet on the anime she watches and books she reads there's shipping but she was always an outcast so she might not understand that Amity has a crush on her yet, but she's not dum she'll figure it out eventually. Dana said that Luz had a lot on her mind because of Eda's curse, now that that is out of the way, maybe she'll start noticing other things, like little miss tomato

[@hyena234thekids7]

You honestly summed up my thoughts perfectly.Like the girl isn't stupid,just has a lot on her mind.I think some people tend to forget that and call her stupid,an idiot for now knowing or noticing,and they consider her as dense ad Phineas from Phineas and Ferb and Adrian from miraculous.

[@hyena234thekids7]

They also really think that if Amity told her she liked her,or kissed her,she would think it's just a friendly thing.Like their's a big difference between oblivious and just plain stupid.

[@chickencake5134]

0:06 Girl the ENTIRE fandom freaked out! Pretty sure everybody is including in their Luminty amv

[@DrawpinionDump]

they'd be fools not to

[@godimsotired5576]

me: watches The Owl House because its new and has cool magic me later in the show: hey look, enemies to friends, thats great me after watching every episode of season 1: GAY GAY GAY GAY BUT WHAT ABOUT EDA-

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Me: **bawling my eyes out after Agony of a Witch and New Blood, Old Souls** This is fine... Totally fine... I don’t need my heart...

[@maddie7820]

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios THE FINALE BROKE ME.

[@emeraldemperor2601]

Can we just talk about how genre- and trope-savvy Luz is? She breaks the fourth wall WITHOUT IT BEING BLATANT.

[@atrexwithglasses2505]

The Grom dance scene was the catalyst for me to jump fully onto the show, before that I’d only seen clips of it and the first episode. After watching that scene a few times, the first thing I did was go and watch the entire season up to that point

[@Detective_Grav]

Back in January when it first aired I watched the first few episodes and I thought it was a good show but at the time I was focusing on SU Future but I was watch Owl House epsiodes when they aired it wasn't something I was caught onto until Lost In Language. Once I saw that epsiode and Covention I was hooked onto the show when I saw those 2 epsiodes. The day that Adventures in the elements got leaked I was like "ok those 2 are gonna become a couple later in the show and so far I was right.

[@atrexwithglasses2505]

@@Detective_Grav I hope you continue to be correct! These two are adorable

[@natesmodelsdoodles5403]

This video is my first time hearing about it. I'm gonna go check it out now.

[@ultima1033]

You know that point when you're internal screams become external? Was dangerously close to that point after Luz made that sassy face with her hand of symbols. Like, that's it. Done. Too sassy 4 me. Lol.

[@DrawpinionDump]

that's true i died when that happened

[@genericangst8665]

I just really wish I could watch it in a 'legal' way, instead of finding clips of it on KZbin. (I can't watch it on the disney channel bc i don't have that) If it was on Disney+, that would be fkin perfect, but alas, as far as I'm aware, tisn't. (maybe it has been put on there since i've last checked, idk) 10/14 EDIT: I HAVE NOW BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES THAT IT WILL BE ON DISNEY+ BY OCTOBER 30TH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN, I GOT IT.

[@DrawpinionDump]

I've heard many fans begging Disney to add the series to disney+, it would be perfect! I still have hope that they will

[@solsun3145]

According to Dana they eventually will. She said sometime after the first 30 days of a season airing is when it usually happens.

[@humandog3240]

I think theowlclub,net is legal

[@DrawpinionDump]

@@solsun3145 Oooh! That's some good news :D

[@milo5267]

Hey hey hey you can watch it on kisscartoon :) I'll try and find the link for the 1st episode for you

[@arandomcomment8869]

You like the Owl House and MoominValley!! Can we be friends?

[@sirworran8385]

Same. Thought.

[@tomykong2915]

Wow, multiple of us have had that same thought

[@sailorhatphilosopher9149]

Oof I’ve been watching the moomins and ist fun

[@lmj2823]

I literally just discovered both moominvalley and owl house this week

[@Rman94]

At any rate whether Lumity happens or not isn't the main focus of the story, It'll probably play be a big part but just that, a part of something great and getting better over time.

[@saposapo9842]

(11:35) OMG!! when i saw enchanting grom i didn't noticed the two guys at the back!

[@kmmk5022]

Oh now I see it

[@kimuires]

_I did_ _I ended up doing a double take-_

[@Detective_Grav]

I noticed it and I think they're cute together I only ship Lumity (and maybe Willow x Boscha don't judge me)

[@kmmk5022]

Gravity Vs The Forces Of Universe would she even redeem Boscha

[@Detective_Grav]

@@kmmk5022 I really hope Boscha gets character development through out season 2 or we at least get to see why see acts so mean to Willow

[@mlpsecrets7931]

Darling, If you wanted to be part of the Lumity fandom you should have just asked :3

[@kmmk5022]

Yeah everyone who loves it welcomes

[@izzytheartist4710]

Now sing the anthem sTrAiGhT hAiR, sTrAiGhT a'S, sTrAiGhT fOwArD

[@mlpsecrets7931]

@@izzytheartist4710 yes but I'd rather sing.. " I noticed how she looks at me"

[@izzytheartist4710]

@@mlpsecrets7931 Fair. But I pretend that I don't see

[@kmmk5022]

Izzy The Artist It’s easier if I let the tension subside

[@Allen0wl]

Me at the start: "Wow... I didn't know there were that much symbolism and depth in this show, why did i miss it the first time?,,," Me when she talks about LUMITY: "OH...THat why..."

[@ItzJaz]

This ship brings me a lot of *JOY*

[@snazzyscorner26]

Most of the fandom: But no. Im gonna talk about the gay part.

[@hodzal5258]

Kinda sad tho cuz lots have pointed out people are only here for Lumity and not the story

[@xythiera7255]

@@hodzal5258 The intire story betwin them makes no sens and is only there to be there. The go from hate to love in 1 sentenc without realy have any setup behind it. Removeing them beeing gay woud chang nothing how the story works.

[@theverynormalpenguin]

@@xythiera7255 say that again but spell it better please??

[@genr9109]

@@xythiera7255 there’s plenty of build up tho?? not the show’s fault you weren’t paying attention

[@STAR_BØYez]

Came for the ship stayed for the plot

[@beachballssideaccount]

Grom reminds me of the Groke from Moominvalley. Both represent facing one's fears and can only be overcome by gay teenagers ice skating and dancing and being in love.

[@DrawpinionDump]

bruuuuuuh hot take of the century

[@littlesamu5920]

imagine that in season two, everything was a dream of Luz, where she created a magical world in which she fits in because she couldn't deal with real world i think it would be devastating

[@abeluli89]

That would be lazy writing its never going to happen which is great

[@edadankmemes]

Hopefully that’s not the case.

[@ekremslayer3389]

That definitely won't happen but if it did there would be outrage

[@DJROCKSTAZ]

"With a TASTE for fantasy?!" Pfft! Just put her in a D&D game and I will bet you my house and my car that she'll be the best roleplayer at the table! Dude, that Performance modifier's gonna be through the roof, and you CAN'T tell me Charisma's NOT her best stat!

[@DrawpinionDump]

i'm crying now i wanna play dnd with luz.......

[@DJROCKSTAZ]

@@DrawpinionDump SO DO I... WHY DO I DO THIS TO MYSELF!? No, seriously, imagine a game with Luz right now. DM: "So, Luz, how do you want to be introduced to your party-" Luz: *dramatic as all hell, because WHY THE FUCK NOT?* "From humble beginnings, a NEW hero rises..." DM and party: *Shocked silent because Luz is actually DOING what she's doing in game for real...* ...But come on, we gotta bring Amity into this. Why? Two words. GAY. PANIC!

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Geek Guide Luz, Gus, Willow, King and Amity all in the same party. *BOOM.*

[@DJROCKSTAZ]

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios OK, it HAS to be said: Luz: Wizard, School of...I don't know...Evocation? Everything Luz does is elemental. Of course, there's always Bard, College of Valor...BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW DAMN GOOD LUZ IS AT PERFORMING! And you KNOW Luz is gonna be singing Azura's praises any chance she flipping gets. In fact, Bard might actually be a better choice here, because Luz, unlike everyone else, wasn't born with magic, so she basically had to learn it. Magical Secrets is basically a bard stealing spells from other classes, so that could work on a flavoring level too (since every spell Luz knows was either learned/borrowed from someone else or learned herself) It's also an excellent power build that would let Luz really take advantage of her strengths(I.E performing, persuasion, and deception, ALL of which are charisma-based skills.) Amity: Wizard, School of Conjuration: The obvious choice here, because all Amity ever does in a fight...is make her abomination do it for her. Summon Shadow Spirit's flavoring comes pretty close, and it's only level 3, which is the lowest level summoning spells are available. Gus: Wizard, School of Illusion. Obvious...it's the only magic he EVER does. Major Image is GREAT for a clone, as the illusory Gus will mimic the real Gus's movements to a T. Willow: Druid, Circle of the Land(Forest) (Again, see above.) Entangle is basically Willow's trademark spell here, and the best part is, it's only first level, so Willow can start a game with her signature spell ready to go. King: ...I don't know... All he does in a fight is pounce on enemies. Maybe he could be Luz's sidekick?

[@Hakajin]

You know, something that I find incredibly interesting in this series is that, while Luz is chaotic at her own school, when she comes to the Boiling Isles, she chooses structure. She's super-excited about classes and choosing a coven, which she clashes with Eda over. Of course, she changes her mind when she learns you can only do one kind of magic once you join, but... I dunno, it was unexpected, but still felt natural to me. Also the subtext addressing religion, the way the Emperor feels like a Christian converting pagans, is super interesting. I mean, anti-fascist themes are all the rage in kids' cartoons these days (Steven Universe, She-Ra, Kipo and the Age of Wonder Beasts), but I don't think I've seen one where it's quite so close to the real world. Also interesting that the Emperor seems unable to do magic himself; seems like he relies on technology instead. Which makes me think he's probably human, too... Anyway! Looking forward to seeing where this is going.

[@shantih19]

It's similar to the relationship between Akko and Diana in Little Witch Academia but even gayer and with a lot more development, I live it.

[@Drawoon]

I'm not sure what exactly they're doing right, but I know that this is the first romantic relationship I've ever been invested in.

[@wileecoyotegenius5955]

Same. I was never much of a shipper before, but now I've literally started reading fanfiction just for Lumity.

[@mystikittii]

4:20 : She comes from a good family! Everyone else: Yeah say that to the parents that control there kids, make them self doubt, makes their youngest to dye there hair to make her look "part of the family", and picks their kids friends to make them get rid of the good ones....yeah that one good family! ( ._.')

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

I think by “good” she meant well-to-do. I have a creeping suspicion that Mr. and Mrs. Blight have used some underhand tactics to get to the position of power they now own. Intimidation is probably the most likely method they used, going by what we saw in Understanding Willow. That position of power most likely comes with monetary benefits, so I think it’s safe to assume the Blights are somewhat wealthy. Not obscenely, but enough to give her parents an ego boost and bragging rights.

[@rainpooper7088]

Also, they color code their kids. Amity’s hair is brown, but her mother forces her to dye it green to match her siblings.

[@katarinacarrico7887]

I like to think Amity dyed her hair to look more like Azura.

[@katarinacarrico7887]

@Lin just makes random videos Nooooooo!

[@samihahamzayeva9113]

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios “somewhat wealthy” lmaoo they have a manor

[@t-rex1174]

Alternate scenario: amity gives luz the invitation Luz: awwwwww, of course I’ll go with you! Amity: wait, really?! Luz: Of course! It’s my duty as your friend to go with you! Amity: *pissed, sad, and dumbfounded at the same time*

[@tmmaco3239]

That battle dance was amazing. They were so in sinc the whole time.

[@vyliad]

Having someone talk kindly about a character so much like me made me so happy I cried- I'm even just as clueless as Luz when it comes to those things- I don't know if I'm bi or lesbian or what though- holy heck this is a long comment

[@beans6765]

Not only is this ship great, THE FAN FICS ARE AMAAAZING!! 😭😭

[@ilikenougat8892]

Have you read Locked Out? I love that shit to bitd

[@Ghost-ss1vu]

Oh my gosh I'm actually crying I'm so glad LGBT+ characters are finally being represented in kids media, I really needed this when I was younger!!

[@arrowhead6076]

Same

[@222fairydust]

same

[@lex0h2]

Less same but still pretty same

[@maxrich9933]

“Amity comes from a good family” Me knowing her parents make her befriend certain people and possibly force her to join the emperor coven: You couldn’t be more wrong

[@ElfsArt24]

I don't think she meant it like that I think she meant well off / rich and well known

[@thatoneweirdo2221]

We can’t forget about that one scene where she keeps silently ranting about things she loves about Luz, and then following it up with how she “hates” it about her.

[@IHateCopperGolems]

14:24 This scene is un-realistic Anyone like Luz would get distracted by that paper and see what it says

[@adriendAyEP]

* DING *

[@aceofspades2201]

Hehe, me

[@ssaltsorf5708]

so far there's only 3 episodes of them being a couple, but it's ADORABLE. this is such a good show

[@tacotown4598]

“To see her thrive instead of being shut down not only makes me happy for what we have, but excited for what’s to come” How do I say this…..

[@denissecanela1818]

Episode 17 had that scene in which Amity started to freak out about being on a team with Luz and using cute uniforms and sweating. That scene lives in my head everyday rent free

[@Fictionboy16]

At first, I thought Lumity was happening a little too quickly, but I understand how the relationship wasn't impossible, and I was pretty proud that Disney was finally able to have an LGBTQ protagonist and a character that's a little less centric to share a similar trait. Hope the relationship blossoms in Season 2...

[@astraightfemalewhodoesntma674]

Well your right it is happening tooo quickly.

[@diamondstingray1142]

@@astraightfemalewhodoesntma674 you do know there are people in real life that have gotten together that fast right or are you just that dumb it's developing like any normal relationship would

[@astraightfemalewhodoesntma674]

@@diamondstingray1142 developing to quickly usally is toxic and can destroy a relationship. So yes but no.

[@Ronno2003]

@@astraightfemalewhodoesntma674 Developing quickly is toxic? That's the first time I'm hearing that. And I don't think it is, I haven't heard any relationship where people got together quickly has destroyed it or gotten toxic, both in real life and the internet. It can only be toxic if one of the people has toxic traits.

[@feraflauna3238]

Actually for the most part, everything is very well paced. I think a battle with the Emperor was a little too soon, but to give the writers credit, they didn't make Luz overpowered God level when dealing with him. She struggled the whole time, and only managed to catch the Emperor by surprise because she's tapping into magic that he doesn't and perhaps can't control. And I think how they've handled Amity and Luz' relationship so far is very well done and beautifully handled. They're not diving head first into the romantic relationship, they're actually taking the time to flesh out Amity and Luz and Amity's relationship with each other. To where I can only hold they continue to handle it as well as they are.

[@wulfrikat]

You just summed up my thoughts about the subject as well as adding some points I never thought about, I love this kind of content Oh but please DO talk about the other stuff! I LOVE hearing you talk about the show

[@Gemini-Lion]

“[Amity] comes from a good family” Ahem, what? I think what you meant to say was rich family, not good family.... just look at Understanding Willow.

[@MrWoof-is7zg]

Now we just have to hope lumity doesn't go downhill like starco

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Fingers crossed. I don’t think it will, but I don’t think we should let our guard down. We did that with SVTFOE, and look what happened...

[@Robtop-ml4sv]

Based on the nature of the show, it'll take a meteor to ruin this ship

[@TheChaoticAsexual]

Dana Terrence really said: *enemies to friends to lovers* *slowburn* *WIP*

[@Flinty-Oven]

Am not gay (or a girl) but I respect this none the less and I hope there more things like this in the future!

[@grimmcorvid5713]

The Owl house is doung lots of stuff correct surprisingly fast.

[@kidwithacrossbowkwac9574]

I only considered watching this show because this relationship between Luz and Amity is soooooo cute.

[@strawbabey_savvy]

they are so good at making characters, I literally love all the character designs!

[@gamebowgirl872]

But no, I'm going to talk about the gay part. Me: *automatically subscribes*

[@EMbrokehp]

"But no, I'm going to talk about the gay part." Mood.

[@Unknownoneeeee]

Did anyone else notice that in one of the episodes Luz said "I have a new crush, and HER name is knowledge" and King was just like 👍

[@l0v3bug06]

Unacceptable, KZbin. THIS CHANNEL NEEDS MORE SUBS

[@dapeach06]

My partner and I SCREAMED when Luz came out in that amazing Tuxedo dress, and when she danced with Amity!

[@tacotown4598]

I’m guessing your reaction to “Knock Knock Knockn’ On Hooty’s Door” was something along the lines of: AOAOAEAOEOEOEWOAOEEOEWOAOEOEOEET9UHV3T50UHNG3R. UI03GR UN8RF3V8V0NGR30GVRUHN3RGV0U3RGHNVG30URHGNVER0UYVGNEVHNERG0IH NG30UHEFVNJHVGTER0UHVGNERGOUHVNGR3ERG0UHGRVNER08YGE0RUYGVNERG0UHNVGREROEIGHGNVOUHGVNRGEOUHRGVENREGHGREVNUHO(dies) Damn keysmashing on big IPad is very efficient

[@BlackReshiram]

This show seriously has no business being as good and BEAUTIFULLY ANIMATED as it is. Lumity for lyfe

[@chojutska]

"But no, I'm gonna talk about the gay part" YES!!

[@musicaljumbalaya9756]

"But no, imma talk about the gay part" most relatable quote of the century.

[@jocelynhyde2197]

*My happiness went up, up, up when I found out the owl house was on Disney+, which means I can now watch it.*

[@Emma_The_H0ppin_H00ligan]

I know literally nothing about TOH but holy shit it is so well animated!!!

[@ocean6828]

Lumity might be my favorite ship in history, just because I LOVE amity.

[@user-cy7bg5qy4k]

”I could dissect the plot but I’m just gonna focus on the gay” That’s me whenever I explain the show to someone

[@PikminandOatchi]

Me: "WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN".

[@Hazyla]

I’ve been waiting for this dang show to be on Disney plus for a while. Then I went hey what is this streaming on. So I checked. AND HULU FREAKING HULU MY PARENTS WERE GONNE GET HULU BUT NOOO (I’m distressed)

[@emeraldleopard7]

It will come to Disney+ on October 30.

[@blackcatleader2459]

Agreed. That was the best animated dance sequence ever.

[@candycryptid2832]

I'm gonna cry thinking about how excited I am to ship them oh my god I can feel the tears coming on

[@hihello4298]

Thank you so much. This video made me watch the owl house, at first I heard about it and wasn't interested, but when I started waching your video I decided to give toh a try. AND WOAH. I'm so glad I did that! I love the owl house, and rn I am just watching season 2 and vibing. Again, thank you.

[@blaneyfan73]

Writers: How much character development do we want? Amity: Yes

[@moon7shinev150]

I'm here the day season 2 release date is announced and I can't wait

[@PentacleArtist]

This video makes me happy and please do the other topics at some point, I'm intrigued.

[@keirynsvoice3414]

Amity is a mix between Draco and Hermione and Luz is a mix between Harry and Ron and no one will change my mind.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

I'll give you Amity, somewhat. But I feel like it's overly simplistic. Luz is almost an anti-Harry. Everything that Harry got easy, Luz actively seeks or had to fight for. And that's not to weaken Harry, his arc is based on having these high expectations he doesn't know that he's actually worthy of. What makes Harry not Draco is not getting a big head via his advantages. Harry has the money, fame, and opportunity to become a rich brat despite what his life at the Dursleys had been like. Luz wants to be the epic hero of the magical world, but she's seen as the exact opposite. Harry just wants to be an average kid but walks into a world that wants him to be an epic hero. Luz walks into a world where she wants to be an epic hero, but the magic world sees her as incapable of even the most basic magic. I don't see any Ron in Luz. Ron was a pureblood Wizard and mostly average in the ways of Wizardry (ignoring how goofy and stupid they made him in the films). His value to the group was in knowing all the rules Harry and Hermione didn't know and being able to explain his culture, a culture forigen to his muggle raised friends, Any comparison to Luz is highly superficial. And Willow is closer to a Ron in execution as far as how she operates in the protagonist journey.

[@ElfsArt24]

Ah you potter heads

[@imkuelllgremlin]

hooray its gay!! you deserve more subsss!!!

[@Literallylilly1]

This was actually the first lgbtq+ show on Disney I was so so happy when I figured out that they allowed this to come out :)

[@PauloAbreu]

Cartoons like this are proof that society is in its way of getting better! Great video 👏👏👏🌈🌈🌈

[@DrawpinionDump]

thanks ^^

[@sillysquee]

@kristian rikardsen thats a bit extreme, but i agree-

[@bumbylbea9715]

I want to wear Luz’s outfit for prom, and Garnet from Steven Universe’s outfit for my wedding. 🥺😭💘💔💖🤌

[@BlueBerry20071]

I have a theory. What if the person in the journal from S2 EP5 is belos before he rose to power. Maybe he completed the door but then lost it and that's why he's so interested in the human realm. He just wants to go home.

[@bookshop7337]

A new, small, lefty creator who does video essays on popular media? Yes please!

[@abigailfite6383]

Yessssss I’ve been looking for a video on this for weeeks, thank you!

[@remyxedfern5008]

Amity is a classic tsundere

[@Detective_Grav]

😂

[@name_not_taken]

And then she dyed her hair purple and everything changed

[@thefungiwhisperer2313]

I just realized this ship is really going to appeal to the Drarry shippers, and I can't believe it took me this long

[@DrawpinionDump]

Dana rly went like "how can i appeal to the Drarry crowd?" so she made them canon and also girls

[@thefungiwhisperer2313]

@@DrawpinionDump pretty much, lol

[@DrawpinionDump]

@fire boss 101 Mossityer you are absolutely right

[@theonegoldengryphon]

@@DrawpinionDump Also the Diakko crowd. Nobody can convince me that Dana isn’t a huge Little Witch Academia fan

[@ladypipflemmbini4133]

Before watching, and OMIGOSH!! I love The Owl House, and I love all your videos! I know this one’s gonna be amazing

[@DrawpinionDump]

We all did ;D

[@tomykong2915]

@@DrawpinionDump idk who couldn't

[@cocobean6144]

CANT WAIT FOR SEASON TWOOOOOOO

[@vally_mally]

For the grom episode, I really liked how Luz’s outfit was a suit with a tutu

[@DrawpinionDump]

bi fashion icon

[@not-so-happypappypatton]

I will punch something if Luz falls for someone else and the person who she fell for rubs it in Amity’s face. I swear if that happens-

[@whoknows8360]

More like 7 and a half layers xD

[@user-tl6vc6gn7y]

Firstly, I want say, that video was truly enjoyable. Secondly, your voice and speach was so clear and understandable, so I'm russian and your videos help me to learn English, improve my vocabulary and listening. Thank you, for your incredible videos!♥️💜💙

[@theweirdscape]

great video as always drawpinion! tbh, I never really got why amity was so well liked by the fandom; I never really saw much interest in her own character separate from her background/family/etc. but the parallels you drew between her and Luz really changed my perspective on her :) looking forward to more of your videos as always, peace!