The Moomins Guide to Dealing with Hard Times - Moominvalley Season 2 Analysis

[@GandyDaGei]

*Honestly, if everyone had reacted to this year, the same way The Moomins reacted to the flood, then it would be way more enjoyable, just saying-*

[@DrawpinionDump]

I appreciate your knowledge, Gandalf

[@lord_ozymandias]

Sooo. evacuate america

[@loghorn-feghorn]

I can always count of Gandalf to be there in any Moomin comment section

[@meece5970]

@@lord_ozymandias Do it, you'll be so much better off lmao 🤣 go to some place crazy like Finland or something, at least on holiday when this pandemic business is over.

[@autumngalix4616]

Ignor Koda and Bobby, they are bots.

[@GandyDaGei]

*I would watch at least an hour long version of every episode, if you ever did that*

[@asterbluejay1471]

YOURE HERE TOO?! ;O;

[@whoopp1746]

your everywhere holy christ

[@lazerkitty0777]

@@whoopp1746 Gandlaf the Gay will never go down.

[@asimpleuser8570]

Agreed

[@Cl0wnAtEDirt]

IVE FOUND YOU ONCE AGAIN

[@giantsandwich]

i am totally on board with the idea that the hat and the handbag represent their identities! would that work with other characters? like, does Moomin's lack of accessories represent that he hasn't found himself? did snufkin lose part of his identity when he gave away his hat with the dragon? hmm 🤔

[@DrawpinionDump]

ooohh I rly dig this Moomintroll idea! In the first Snufkin video I made I talk about how in a dream sequence he lost his harmonica, which meant losing a part of himself; but I like the idea of his hat too! (except he gets it back somehow... I suppose the universe doesn't want him to be hatless!)

[@mslightbulb]

@@DrawpinionDump maybe the universe just hates his hairstyle.

[@ladypipflemmbini4133]

“...It’s Moomin time” Me: *yes* “Once again I want to talk about Moominvally” Me: *YES* Ok, seriously, every time you say that opening my day is immediately 10 times better, if not more

[@maef7026]

Saying "don't dwell on the past" helps no one. If someone is sad and you care about them, do you just tell them "you shouldn't be sad" and leave? No. This just reminds me of people telling someone with depression "Not to be sad because there is nothing to be sad about." or that "they'll get over it". I feel so sad for Moomin mama, she is constantly taking care of everyone around her and they kind of take her for granted. Whenever SHE has a problem, she has to deal with it on her own. :(

[@ymotechnopopfan]

Poor Moominmamma.

[@lord_ozymandias]

Your voice rings in my head whenever I’m thinking about character dynamics in any way 0-0

[@DrawpinionDump]

SHJSJHMNNDSSMDFN thanks

[@HautaAntero]

Fun fact, the end of the book is a little more cynical and nihilistic, when all the characters have gone badly wrong, the family finds alcohol and starts drinking, which would imply that, all the members of the Moomin family became alcoholics at the end of the book. The only character in the book who will finally survive all the trials and tribulations is The Groke. In the book, Moomin Trolls makes Groke warm and as a result, Groke is happy because she no longer spreads the cold everywhere. I also liked the TV series version more of Little My’s story arc as she tries to unravel the mystery of the lighthouse. Funny in itself that, in the 90s anime, the Lighthouse story was executed in a more "happy go Lucky" adventure style. While in the book and the newer TV series, the story is more of a fantasy-spiced melodrama.

[@stellarkat4657]

Very good observation 🙂

[@psychicuterus1339]

Yay! Another great video! The Lighthouse Arc is so good. Seriously, in this version they feel more real, sometimes Moominpappa and his problems hit home. For example, I remember the first time I watched the episode Moominpappa & Son I wanted to cry because it remind me of those years when I was a child my father worked all day I only would see him maybe two hours a day: working outside of home and when he was working at home he was at his computer with other important tasks. And now with the Lighthouse Arc it felt real again. You know they love each other, but these situations can get the worst of people and the writers protrayed it so well with these episodes. They were dramatic, but not overly dramatic. Honestly, I loved the relaxing feeling of Season 1 but damn, Season 2 snapped sometimes in a really good way. PS.: Moominmama is such a strong character, I hope when they adapt the Memoirs we also see her point of view. They hint her adventures when she was younger in Season 2 and in the book we only know she was lost at the sea. Seriously, she can build a house in just a few minutes, she's awesome, what kind of life she had before the Valley? I know Tove Jansson didn't really gave her a backstory (that I know of, I only read until Midwinter and the first volume of the comics) so it would be cool if Gutsy just invented something for her. (Also yes, I was thinking of the movie The Lighthouse at the first episode of the Arc xD Even made the joke on social media because it was too much)

[@nashneyly5331]

me at 19:22 : ah yes finally, Snufkin Drawpinio Dump : the fisherman me : :v I feel my heart crack

[@lord_ozymandias]

mood. like i get it we’re obsessed with snufkin and the fisherman IS a cool guy but you had to bait us lmao

[@DrawpinionDump]

i was baiting myself too

[@buzzardly1127]

Me 24/7 "I wanna talk about Moomin Valley"

[@grapefxnta]

moomintroll horse girl...now I'm gonna have that pictured in my head for the rest of my life...

[@TheIntimateAvenger]

So many comments are talking about how much they loved the lighthouse arc but I don’t get why. I HATED the lighthouse arc. Moominpoppa acting like a selfish asshole and Moomintroll’s sudden crush on the seahorse just angered me to no end.

[@beachballssideaccount]

The Lighthouse Arc is one of my favourites in the show so far. Not only is the Lighthouse Keeper an absolute delight whenever he's on screen (especially with Little My) but seeing the different sides of the characters was really fascinating. I mean, the look of genuine fear in Little My's eyes was something very new and refreshing. She thought that crazy fisherman was going to kill her!

[@shesustho2880]

When I was watching the lighthouse episodes I felt SO bad for MoominMama. I had gone through a simular situation and would dwell on the past just has she done. It made me remember those times and how lonely and sad I was. The amount of times I cried watching those episodes is too much!😂😭

[@megasocky]

My friend passed away recently, but the world keeps moving and I can't catch a break to mourn. This video really helped me out haha

[@elmored627]

I hope everything goings great for you :) Please give yourself a break

[@table2.0]

The lighthouse arc in season two hit so close to home for me it actually triggered both me and my mums trauma. It was supposed to be our favourite lighthearted escapist show. We loved the show. Now we’re put off from watching much more of it by season two. Moomin Papa was disturbing and borderline abusive with how he acted with disregarded his family and lashed out. He’s never been a worse person.

[@loreleiflare7388]

The episode with Moominmamma's trouble honestly is what made me stop watching. The happy ending just felt so... unearned. Moominmamma is putting aside what she wants purely for her husband's sake, and he doesn't really acknowledge that or thank her or apologize for it. She has to do all the growing and Moominpappa gets everything he wants. It really frustrated me and I couldn't get past it.

[@znufkiin]

I THOYGHT YOU WRE GON TALK ABAOYT SNUFKIN AGAIN ABISHAJABAJKAKL

[@nightish_one6007]

Yes, finally some Little My character analysis! I have been dying to see what her character has in store! Edit: Well, that was short-lived... Maybe some more Little My videos in the future

[@viittaritaricomic3761]

I really hoped that Moominpapa would have tried to write a sea novel on the lighthouse island, only getting a promologist and losing her desire to write like a moomin comic

[@samdwimch7345]

Just when I thought I was out of the moomin hole, I realized I never left.

[@snus_mumriken_]

I remember feeling so bad for Moominmamma that almost cried several times, I felt so bad throughout the episode that I wouldn't really like to watch it again This analysis is awesome btw!

[@asterbluejay1471]

Can anyone question why the fandom in moominvalley is so obsessed with snufkin??? Like come on- y’all gotta admit it’s true

[@DrawpinionDump]

it's the yearning

[@asterbluejay1471]

Drawpinion Dump who’s yearning exactly? 😆 /j Edit: oh how I wish I knew about tone indicators 8 months ago-

[@cosmiclairs4767]

You cant deny he is good looking and adorable in this series and even his voice is spot on

[@spacecat_scribbles]

@@asterbluejay1471 y e s Snufkin's yearning, Moomintroll's yearning, anyone else who feels like yearning, it's all good.

[@13.7BYITM]

The 90s adaptation bimboified him

[@owadziarz]

Hhhh I love your videos so much I'll watch it tomorrow, though, because it's 10pm here and I'm just too tired :'3 I like listening to your voice while drawing and I'm planning on doing that tomorrow, lol

[@DrawpinionDump]

omggg I love watching videos while drawing! Having my videos used for that is a great honor!

[@tincan1281]

your videos always cheer me up especially now everything life gives me now makes me feel a little sad so you are like taking me to another world(that's how i cope with) and your voice is so beautiful and calming also i can't improve my language skills yet so i watch moominvalley and listen to you. probably it'll help me thanks for everything you do❤️

[@santiagoacosta3372]

Moomintroll is furry 😔😔😔

[@kenyajerez5535]

Okay hear me out the fisherman can be a good friend of snufkin’s dad because the fishermen and snufkin have so much alike but they probably never met because the fishermen went on a fishing trip befor snufkin was born and when he went the boat got caught in a storm and got washed up on the island and he found the lighthouse and decided to live there :)

[@cosmic_seabunny]

MoominPapa needs to man tf up! All he does is complain and blame everything else. He’s abusive to MoominMama and then gets mad when his “pride” is threatened! MoominTroll is slowly becoming more like his father too. I hope they address this but judging by the way they just glossed over MoominPapa’s toxic ass. I don’t really expect much. Also why the heck didn’t MoominTroll mention Snufkin!? Not even once. That’s just out of character..

[@asterbluejay1471]

19:26 *cue the fanfare 😂😂😂* 19:40 HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA AVERTING EXPECTATIONS 🤣🤣🤣 PERFECT!!

[@Silverheartpro]

Is it weird that this is exactly what I needed to watch today?

[@sirworran8385]

It's always a surprise and a lovely gift when you send in a new video

[@zenmaster8]

Although I haven't watched the series and just know it from the videos you made, moominpapa was very selfish to uproot their life because he was bored.

[@fluffyhnybadger5378]

Your videos are always so good! Keep it up!

[@ireallywannasleep3737]

beautiful. i've had a rough week, so this was really nice...

[@cherrybomb1130]

I think we can all agree that Moomins is a gift on earth

[@superkitsune6481]

I love this arc, but I've always hated dismissive Moominpapa was of Moominmama's feelings. She's discouraged from having a garden, she's not allowed to have her things (rosebush), and her mural is intentionally ignored by him. I understand that this was about adapting to a new environment and change, but why does she have to give up her all her interests for him? I wouldn't have been so bothered if she was allowed to have her hobbies

[@charlesvattimo4674]

Fastest click in the west... Really I needed this! This video has uplifted me so much that I can’t help but sing: Let us pause in life’s pleasures, And count its many tears, All while, we sob sorrows with the poor. There’s a song that will linger, Forever in our ears, it goes Hard times come again no more. ‘Tis a song, a sigh, Of the weary, Hard times, hard times, Come again no more. Many days have you lingered, Around my cabin door, Oh hard times, Come again no more.

[@octoberbabybee]

I still can't find where to watch season 2, so I haven't been able to see your latest videos, so I just come here, leave a like, then leave and THEN try to remember to watch them once I can see season 2 ;-;

[@DrawpinionDump]

I'll be here for you once you find them! (but seriously, have you tried websites like kimcartoon? It's illegal and I shouldn't be suggesting them and the websites themselves are kinda shady but they do have all eps there)

[@octoberbabybee]

@@DrawpinionDump oh hehe I haven't tried that one, I'll check it out, and thank you!! Yeah, I also feel bad sometimes for using illegal websites but sometimes you just don't have the money to support them, in the plus side, I think being a fan is also a way of support because you ramble about it with everyone so Everyone knows about the moomins. Or videos like this :3

[@kittyrosefaerie7464]

@@octoberbabybee I watched part of season two somewhere but like you I haven't been able to find the most recent episodes anywhere

[@Lizbeth-oq7ps]

I really enjoy these moominvalley videos!!! I hope to see more of these in the future! I could watch hours of you talking about the moomins it's very enjoyable! Thank youu

[@Андрей-й5х9ь]

O, I remember how i got this book: it was our first familly foreign trip and we went to Finland, where we visited Muumimaailma, near Turku. That is a Moomi themed park and it was great, but me and my brother wanted to know more about Mumintrolls and our parents bought us a book (in Russian, it was really thick) and that is how I first new about Tove Jansson and her stories. Love them very much)

[@nikevisor54]

Was not expecting the jumpscare that is 0:07 but it at least got me prepped for the essay :) As a piece of critical commentary, though I live for your Moomin-vids, they tend to run longer than needed. I wholly respect the time and effort that goes into every publication, but it seems that you re-state established points beyond what is needed. We as viewers accept the points that you make, so there's no reason to keep saying the same thing again and again. Your editing skills coupled with your writing are enough evidence for us, as viewers, to grasp your point. There's not need to reiterate the same argument over again once you've already successfully made your point. Maybe I'm too KZbin about this, but back up your points in the comments section instead of the video. We all love you so there's no need to repeat points when the majority agrees with your analysis. Sorry for the long comment. Just a mapleleaf boi offering (hopefully) constructive feedback. tldr: No need to repeat your points. We agree and are looking to move on, not hear another piece of evidence. ... also, thanks for the videos, Much love. Please stay safe. Keep on Moomin' on :)

[@DrawpinionDump]

Thank you for the feedback! Making myself understood is a huge concern of mine, so I think my repetitiveness comes from my own overcorrection. I'm not sure how I feel about backing up my points in the comments section, because I'm KZbin enough to know not everyone reads them; I like my videos to stand on their own. But you seem to have had better experiences than me, so I'll think it over!

[@wetheepiphany]

​@@DrawpinionDump Tbh, as someone who is a newcomer to the Moomins, and was introduced to Moominvalley 2019 through your videos, I really like all the evidence that is given to support your points throughout your videos. Unlike fans who know all about the Moomins' stories already, or have already watched the 2019 series, I have no context for a lot of the characters or occurring story. Because of this, the evidence has helped me to understand what is going on and see why there is such character depth, or growth, happening in the show. As for restating points, I can't speak for everyone but I know, for myself, it makes the conclusions hit home a lot harder: the point is stated earlier on, and then after all the evidence is presented and the point is restated again, I have an "Aha! Now I understand and see why that is!" moment. Anyway, that is just my two cents on the matter. I'm now interested in watching Moominvalley 2019, and I'm excited to go into it knowing that there is so much character depth and development in the show. Thanks for making these videos!

[@DrawpinionDump]

@@wetheepiphany Thank you so much for your feedback!! I'm glad I am able to make myself understood

[@jaa5580]

I relate to Moominmammas sacrifice. Hard times come to shack up our comfort. Sometimes thats what we need because you can get lost in comfort as well. Art is the purest thing

[@jaa5580]

Moomin Feelings can be one of the most addictive things in live

[@jaa5580]

find yourself

[@maddie3824]

i love your moomin valley analysis videos so much! when i saw the notification for this i got so excited

[@Dana-gn3nb]

You introduced me to moomin and I absolutely love it. Season 3 is finally out and it is great (atleast for me)

[@chapliecharlin]

oh wow this was interesting you definitely deserve more subs lmao thank you for this dopamine

[@kennethsatria6607]

This story arc really hit me close to home with how I see my parents, whenever they're in a subtle conflict with the people each of them are deep down outside of the life they made together, like my dad is easygoing and can get careless but unlike my mom who is a perfectionist and can be burdened by things as an artist type, he can really pick apart problems by sheer logic and work ethic as a buisnessman. But when he is naive or shortsighted my mom can hold him back from any possible dangers. Its fascinating how Tove Jansson based them off her own mother and father's quirks and strengths. Even if they are much different than mine there is that shared love and admiration for them in how she wrote them and Moomintroll I can feel through her writing of them that later adaptations have respected and grew from.

[@ysabelasophiab.didulo3522]

This was the video that introduced me to the story of the Moomins back when I was making fake macarons for a project for school near mid-2021. I joined the fandom around the start of my 3rd term in the school year 2021-2022, and I think that among all the things I got into within the school year, this is my favourite.

[@aaliyahmaurice]

I really needed this rn. I found out today that I have covid and my family and I are losing a lot of work because of it. I’m trying to find some peace through this and the lessons you touched on are very relevant for me. Thanks for making this video ❤️

[@DrawpinionDump]

I wish you and your family the best

[@miab-p6874]

I know it's not a cartoon, but could you review/make a video on Penny Dreadful? Thank you,

[@squirlmy]

There doesn't seem to be any easy access to this series from the U.S., maybe I'm just not resourceful enough to find it and get it through a VPN or something. This is not such a bad way to sample some of it. Although, I would like it even more if Drawpinion would reference writers and the script and depend a little less on hypothetical "psychoanalysis" of characters who are, after all, totally fictional. This is intellectually at the level of young adult or above, I don't think we need to be immersed in the fictional story and forget there are artists and authors behind the scenes (even if its not Tove herself). Without this, it starts to seem like an unhealthy obsession, instead of derivative but very enjoyable entertainment.

[@marionesparteiro1954]

This video is very smart and well worded and you saw things in it that I didn't consider and find absolutely insightful. I Loved season 2 there is so much growth in it and it really resonated with me then, I'm glad you put into words what I wasn't really able to describe about it. wonderful work

[@reiri5764]

This is one of my favourite episodes! Because of all the episodes in Moominvalley, this is one of the "arcs" that really almost threatened to tear the family apart.

[@seafoamspirit3484]

I'll admit, that wasn't the misdirection I was expecting. I was expecting a Luigi joke. Then again, I'm only ever moments away from thinking about Luigi...

[@faithg5250]

I bet you can't say Moominmamma three times fast

[@dreamishsara]

19:38 you really did that to us how could you

[@blakepaulineswingler6620]

are you planning to make a video about season 3? and the upcoming season 4???

[@sky07-n4b]

무민이너무나도귀여워요 ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ♡♡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@loghorn-feghorn]

MOOMIN TIME! WOOH WOOH WOOOOOH!

[@faithg5250]

I love your profile picture

[@loghorn-feghorn]

@@faithg5250 Thanks bro

[@alba__ricoques]

Great analysis! Loved it! I'm very curious where did you get the footage of the creators of the series talking about it? If possible pass a link? :)

[@DrawpinionDump]

They can be found as commentary tracks in the official Moomin channel! Here's a link to the playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gojRlaJneNB0l8k&ab_channel=MoominOfficial

[@egglasagna5414]

You are so underrated! Your videos are amazing!😩

[@Yun_er]

Little My is amazing

[@laraanderson9855]

I love revisiting your moomin video essays whenever I feel down, idk they feel so cosy to me. Thank you for making them :)

[@geesman]

You are awesome just like your videos!!!

[@altarush]

I am curious. I would like to know what would have happened if Walt Disney had gotten whole of this book series?

[@upcomingperson4098]

Moominmama losing her purse is pretty unrealistic imo. When moms lose their bags, they aren't gonna stay calm. They'll be going insane because all their makeup has gone down the drain.

[@fairiesandlillies3471]

Put this in the playlist 👋🙂

[@ryugamingultrapromax]

I love your videos so much. Thank you for introducing and guiding me to this show

[@cuondaotherside7401]

i come for moomins, and i stay for your commentary

[@crispywithinthemeat]

Ah yes. Mins

[@gabrielmendez4161]

I’ve always wondered why they don’t differentiate the Moomin family by giving them different features

[@cokekid2593]

I’m early for once

[@fluffyhnybadger5378]

Same

[@asterbluejay1471]

1:51 🤣🤣🤣saaame

[@Kev4511]

Enough Where do I watch this series? Is it on netflix?

[@brookeb4563]

"He has experienced so many threats to his lifestyle that hes becoming used to it" sounds a lot like any kid born past the year 2000

[@JK-dx4ob]

Well done! 😊👍 But: Pssst, you're getting your prepositions mixed up a bit, saying "on the valley" and "in the island" repeatedly (the latter isn't _all_ wrong, but the former is a no-no). Would you mind sharing where your accent is from? My guess is it's... *Dutch* influence?! 🤔💭❓

[@nickostler1]

Brilliant!

[@kittyrosefaerie7464]

where are you guys watching season 2??

[@kimchanmoninn6408]

We need this in 2020 honestly 😅

[@ArtParlor]

how does one watch the new Moomin Valley? Where can it be streamed?

[@fairiesandlillies3471]

So thay nerwthed moominmama🤣

[@MCD183]

I just love your videos!

[@ymotechnopopfan]

18:41

[@Capybaraism]

How can I see Moominvalley in the US?

[@Morbing_Time]

Pirate's life is great ahoy

[@renjunscar]

irra