The Rules of Status & how they influence Fashion

Today's video is about the role that status plays in influencing both Fashion and Culture. I think it CAN play a relatively large role. Let me know what you think down in the comments.
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1:53 How does status develop?
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[@lovemark7505]

while i agree with the ideas presented here, and i think you did a phenomenal job explaining things to the best of your ability. i personally think that there's a lack of perspective here. the idea that status dictates fashion and culture is a bit more complex than that. culture isn't bound to class exclusively. the stealing of black culture, the stealing of asian culture, ESPECIALLY japanese culture (japanese school girl outfits and it's offshoots, japanese "work wear" and the fetishization of the label "made in japan", etc,..." is so common in fashion. i don't think status dictates culture. i think it's very much the opposite. i think the reason we think status is the means by which fashion and culture is "dictated" is because those at the top CAN project themselves. it's because we in the lower class, we at the bottom, don't have a means of which we can communicate our culture at the scale that the rich or the staturely can. love the content drew! so happy to see you creating more philosophical content.

[@multomulto4136]

thank you for bringning up the stealing from the lower class lmfao i feel like that awlsay gets brushed over in fashion

[@ill1279]

Not to mention Balenci making the trash bags and the so called “homeless” look being a thing now

[@kenny-bc3ll]

he do this most of his videos though. like just go straight to the point 😭

[@anchous6512]

Frankfurt school's critical theory can be seen as a description of what status dictates culture mean within capitalism. Precisely by the fact that fashion steals from working classes and appropriates culture. People who have capital (which coincides with status now) can mass produce and through production affect what lower classes buy. I think Kuipers (2012) also touches the problem of the theory of vertical top down culture distribution, and says that currently influencers might have more significant impact than higher classes. In general, in the west at least, cultures from lower classes became insensitive towards what higher classes do because of individualism. Top-dpwn effect is no longer that strong However, fashion is institutionalized and has top actors who do dictate the rules. Mass produced fashion follows whatever is done by the big brands and independent acclaimed designers. So video's thesis might be the case. There is too many components to firmly agree or disagree without proper writing

[@lovemark7505]

i love this. thank you for writing and/or finding this reference. the part about stealing from the working class and them being desensitized to it rings so true. thank u for adding nuance to the conversation

[@bigwildonion]

Worrying about status ruined my experience with clothes for a few years. I was trying to impress others, instead of dressing for the person I really am. I wasn't focused on quality or esthetics, and definitely didn't appreciate the creative minds and skilled hands that make clothes. Worse than all that, I wasn't grateful for everything my clothes were doing for me, like making it possible to have a job and keeping me warm all winter. Learning more about style made me feel humble in a healthy way, and made it possible to build a wardrobe that I enjoy every day. Respect to those who know how to get something positive out of chasing status through their style, but if that is not you let it go.

[@playboialexx]

one of the only channels i consistently watch ❤🔥🔥

[@dea2860]

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[@Wesfits]

This is a great conversation because I think with the advent of social media, you'll see that this moment in time is the most you'll see fashion flipped on it's head. Every day people are setting the trends and the designer brands are conforming more and more to it. Luxury brands are now sublimed with streetwear and that was never the case.

[@baby.nay.]

You’re absolutely right… and I think young people (obviously not all) have more $ to to swing around and cement their style as present in society … older people can’t really dictate what younger people wear compared to previous times and places. Then that whole Miranda p (devils wears Prada) monologue has shifted to what youre saying… it trickles up

[@tommasocappelli7695]

I won't lie, in the last month/6 weeks I haven't watched your videos/podcast with the same frequency as before, but I can definitely tell even from the first minutes of the video you still rising yourself and your content day-by-day, even with more and more historical contextualisation, which I really enjoy. Next couple/3 weeks will be super-busy for me, I'll definitely put a Drew J marathon in the first squares of my do-to-list (I only started the Keezy episode of the podcast, I NEED to watch it fr). Your videos are truly insightful man, stay safe. ❤ The origin of ostracization is really interesting man, it comes from the tradition in the most famous republic of the Ancinet Greece, Athens, to ban the problematic figures in the city. The vote consisted in writing the opinion on an ostrakòn, in Greek a clay piece used to ask the expulsion (Here in Italy the etimology from latin/Greek words are really loved by our teachers)

[@catharsishh]

you're always great at mentioning topics that inspire such interesting dialogue

[@bigscorchio]

Biggest compliment he ever gave her. he didn't notice her style until they were married as he was chasing his sister originally and only for the bloodline. Anyway that's not why we are here. Great vid as always Drew, stay Wavy 🌊

[@him4440]

interesting

[@Orbitinbloom19018]

I like this new direction, you’ve clearly put a lot of research and work in editing in !

[@strawberrythiefproductions]

I think fashion can be a really powerful way of performing status, especially within hierarchies of gender performance. I definitely personally vary how I dress based on how enthusiastic I am about the performance of femininity on any given day, and when I dress myself up I am very aware of doing so to influence peoples perception of me towards women who are valued in media - the star of a music video, the ''it girl" in a chic flic or the love interest in a male gaze film. I also think that there are nested hierarchies of status that can be expressed through fashion, and that while within the fashion world, streetwear for instance is having its moment, there is a broader level of cultural exeptance of and respect for/deference to the professional in a suit.

[@iAnon666]

I just got to say you’ve progressively become my favorite fashion commentator on KZbin

[@kyle_vr]

Traditional menswear is not "timeless" but...typically has a 10-year lifecycle. Contemporary/trendy menswear...1-3 year lifecycle. I believe that none of these are really "timeless" (as mentioned in the video). However, I do believe that more traditional/classics linger as they have stood the test of time (i.e. a typical 2023 suit worn in 2023 is vastly different regarding: patterns, fit, fabric, weight, accessories, and formailities from the 1960s, although they're still called suits). This may apply to other clothing styles and types etc.

[@snacknnap]

I agreeee

[@busychilling9190]

Your videos are always great, but the new year gave you an extra boost😁

[@samuelpokrivcakhair]

maan keep going , these is such an orignal comtent with great ideas and thoughts , I really enjoying this videos .

[@saraicarter558]

Another amazing vid bro, keep it up🔥🔥

[@blueberrybeam]

Another great video and another great fit drew

[@luisinha2759]

your videos are reallyyyy interesting! loving your channel

[@ro.x2.bathan]

Always learning something new with Drew.

[@anonymousotter6455]

Just watching your videos makes me feel smarter😂 unfortunately I have nothing to bring to the conversation when it comes to this topic. However, I do find it extremely interesting.

[@sk8head343]

love your content

[@AlexisKechichian]

Excellent video. Peace, love and positivity to you @drew !

[@taylorbowden1390]

Great video bro! I learned a lot and you presented it extremely well!

[@maggie6857]

Definitely one of my comfort channels🥰

[@Anymonous246]

Mans really took a few comments from his viewers on his “timeless vs trendy” video and decided to capitalize it into a whole separate video

[@marthaeloise]

Love your videos 💓

[@jimjam2534]

I think fashion is one of the most capitalist ingrained modes of art, which is why hierarchy in fashion develops so much easier than a lot of other forms of art.

[@cindylizbeth196]

Beautiful topic

[@winestainedress]

ur vids always go crazy

[@DrewJoiner]

🫶

[@abdallahebbo]

Congratulations Drew ! This is amazing ! While in a way I think status plays a major role in fashion especially what’s considered as “High fashion”, I also think that’s just one side of the conversation leaving out the general discussion. Fashion is self expression and there are individuals and communities who express themselves purely without the thought of supremacy rather as a representation to something bigger. Streetwear is a pure example of that. Supreme being birth by the skate culture in New York which till today, asides from people who buy supreme for status reasons, there are people who genuinely love and support the brand for its original root (skate culture). Bape also and the hiphop culture around it. Or even Jerseys to collectively express your love for your favourite soccer team. While I believe there is definitely hierarchy in fashion, till this day (lol), there are people who purely love fashion as a form of expressing their love,involvement or support to a movement. Unless this video only speaks on “High fashion” as the “real fashion” which is a whole different conversation lol, there is a whole lot of information left out. Again your video is amazing as always ✨

[@DrewJoiner]

🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@mikaylasmith7600]

Excellent video! In my studies, there was always a focus on high societies when it comes to fashion history, probably because they had the luxury of being recorded. Rarely are working classes mentioned within text, even though they made up most of the population. I wonder if this also has to do with preservation of clothing too, since the rich were the ones that typically had their clothing stored away in a semi-safe environment. #pvv I would love to go back to Estonia for a week. I was in Tallinn for a day, but I want to go back to explore the marshes and forests.

[@kidwsagg]

Im excited to see the brand I work for (social status) make it in to your video. I means a lot when i see that logo and know how much of an impact we make on the community. #pvv I’ve always wanted to visit china because I live in NC,USA to know that half way around the world life is so different just makes it that much cooler to experience

[@kireewed7799]

#pvv Iceland would be my choice. It seems like such a good vibe. Thank you for todays video and I really enjoy the direction your videos have been going in!

[@joeschmoe13106]

The comment section on these videos is actually used as a comment/discussion section. That's how you know this channel is good

[@laurant420]

Another drew banger

[@asmrbruh8070]

This is a video I would watch even if I wasn’t subscribed to you or even if I wasn’t into fashion and individual style, very cool Drew :)

[@DrewJoiner]

🫶

[@nevernyr]

in regards to status, i think it’s something that is in the forefront of my mind when im buying, to assess if i want an item solely based on its societal + hierarchal value, or if it actually aligns with my aesthetic and personal sensibilities. it helps me discern items meant for asserting superiority vs items that can help me express myself, which has helped me stave off of many purchases. also #pvv i wanna go to japan, i know it’s cliché but i love trains and i want to ride many train networks there… and also not pay for shipping when im buying japanese clothes hehe

[@steeven23]

this HAS GOT to be your best video out

[@DrewJoiner]

🫶

[@RightYshark]

#pvv Hearing you say you want to visit my home country made me jump haha, I didn’t expect that at all. I think Lithuania is worth a visit, considering it’s not so much populated/crowded, and Vilnius being a gorgeous lil capital that we have, with a cozy old-town that’s UNESCO protected. Most of the areas are “english-friendly”, so miscommunication with the locals shouldn’t be a common problem 😅 We also have interesting local food, like šaltibarščiai (cold beetroot soup). As for city recommendations, It’d probably come down to Vilnius and Kaunas, they both have a heap of nice parks and art galleries/museums. So yeeeeee, if you’re ever going to visit us, I hope your trip goes well!

[@ignorancja]

Great video and food for thought (as always) #pvv Lithuania caught me off guard 😄 it's rare that someone mentions our corner of Europe

[@ri-ley3650]

#pvv A country that I’ve always wanted to visit is France, but more specifically the city of Cherbourg. Due to just some family disconnect, I never got to find out about my background and history of my ancestors. That was until I went to a few family events thrown by the side of the family I never saw or really knew. It opened my eyes almost immediately hearing and seeing generations of people whom came before me, and especially talking to my great-grandmother (that I’d never met before), she talked about her and her parents (my great-great grandparents) having fled from Cherbourg in 1940, and the life they lived prior, how her mom was actually a twin (I’m a twin too, and the only one in the family since). It was quite sad but I was so grateful to be given this knowledge, I couldn’t believe the fact I’d never got to hear any of this. I got to see these over 80 year old recipe papers she kept for french pastries and snacks, and who knows how old these recipes go back. With that new knowledge, I’d love to go back, experience and set foot in a place that my family for generations called home (also umbrellas of Cherbourg, incredible film)

[@roopekela]

Great vid, thought provoking yung king 👑 Pvv: I want to visit the states one day. Maybe do like a new york to miami to texas to mid west to la road trip to see all the different cities and cultures within.

[@oiification]

Really well produced analysis. Thanks ! I live in Korea so a bit controversial...but I am desperate to visit Japan. Special mentions, Prague and Tanzania

[@YoungMinKim-zr4qi]

Loving your videos Drew! Could you make a review video of the new canoe orslow jacket?? Thanks!

[@DrewJoiner]

Yes! It’ll probably be a short form video

[@InternetPitstop]

Great choice of topic! and just a really chill vibe to the video man, good stuff. I gotta ask tho...where can I get that beanie you got!?

[@DrewJoiner]

I just have to say I love your channel man! The beanie is from a brand called Maybe Tomorrow 💫🤞

[@InternetPitstop]

@@DrewJoiner woah really bro? Didn’t know you messed with my stuff thx! And if you don’t mind me asking lol what’s the brand of the beanie on your “trendy or timeless pt3” thumbnail ? Thx again bro🌊

[@DrewJoiner]

@@InternetPitstop Yes bro you speak only truth when it comes to anime, pokemon, all that lmao. That beanie is from a brand called prngrphy - weird name but search it on IG

[@rocimo124]

Please don't stop making these videos

[@Whodnl]

Drew doesn't miss

[@jordachejordan90]

I feel it's an American specificity. The American dream causes us to chase wealth (old money). And hipsters have always been kind of branded as pretentious and gatekeeping so not the most welcoming culture to enter.

[@abrahambaez8096]

"From the medieval monarchs" - 2:59 shows a picture of King George III (late modern era). All love though, man keep up the fashion content. I always enjoy watching your vids!

[@DrewJoiner]

hey hey hey shhhhh jk good catch!

[@mateusschaeffer9759]

First of all,amazing topic and amazing video. One of the best discussions I’ve seen on KZbin. Zygmunt Bauman says society has expanded previous exclusion concepts regarding religion,color or social hierarchy and adapted these to (also)exclude those who don’t consume. So if you consume, you’re accepted. If you don’t,you’re out of the game. You are what you buy. As a black brazilian guy, I can asure you these exclusion happens on so many levels and it’s one out of many tools articulated by those in power to oppress. I notice black people striving so hard to keep up with these high levels of consumerism seeking acceptance and validation as compensation for social exclusion. That’s sad.

[@sebastianvega6032]

I think the main driver behind status is wealth, and how it helps us be in positions of purchasing what’s trendy or high quality. It’s a sad thing bc wealth isn’t evenly distributed in this world. I’ve always wanted to visit Spain! Kinda basic but can’t go wrong with it #pvv

[@DrewJoiner]

Can’t go wrong with that at all

[@jacobmperry]

Really enjoyed the editing of this video's intro! #PVV I've always wanted to go to Iceland, mainly to see the northern lights.

[@simeongeorgiev531]

what is your jacket? really nice!

[@lastrockgod]

For anybody interested in sociology… this is basically described by Pierre Bourdieu as the Habitus and cultural capital.. EDIT: Morocco and Scotland fascinate me since childhood

[@mohd.azharuddinmultani2182]

What an intro 👉🏽

[@JIDE.O]

hi drew! #pvv ! lithuania sounds super interesting; i really gotta think about this one. i have many place(S) in mind but can't pick just one, just yet 😅

[@Alan-rw3ez]

I once had someone call me a hipster for smoking spirits, like bro it’s a bad habit that smells bad and I wish I had more self control to quit. It isn’t some “hipster” crap lol.

[@joebob2572]

Why not Newports?

[@Alan-rw3ez]

@@joebob2572 not for me

[@joebob2572]

@@Alan-rw3ez classicist /s

[@Alan-rw3ez]

@@joebob2572 egocentrism

[@Nope-jl5rs]

#pvv Ireland definitely, just because of the scenery alone. You can get there fairly quickly from where I live too, and I already have a deal with my mom that we'll travel there when I graduate college, so something I can look forward to.

[@vikashumko]

Ireland is fantastic! I’ve been living there for some time. I’m very impressed by the culture and nature. Should definitely visit The Cliffs of Moher, Galway, Giant's Causeway, and Dublin of course. What's more, people are fantastic here too, very hospitable and nice. I wish your dream trip with your mother will become real one day.

[@vikashumko]

#pvv Lithuania is just great! And the Vilnius too! I’ve been there three times and each of them was very cozy and sweet. Beautiful culture, beautiful architecture, nice cafes, restaurants, and nature is stunning! Recommend visiting Lithuania 😊

[@jaimenumeros]

Pvv, i have wanted to go to florence since i played assansin creed 2 at a young age. And last year i made my dream come true and go live and study in florence for a semester! It has been the best expereince in my life so far. Now with that dream out of the way who knows whats next?? Life can be great.

[@Rcarch06]

anyone knows where to buy a nice puffer vest?

[@Asrr2008]

I think there’s a distinction in status within the « luxury » world of fashion. I know a guy that has lots of Gucci & Balenciaga tees, some LV stuff, Dior b23’s and the list goes on. I on the other hand for example, I am into fashion a lot, but mostly brands like ROA, C.P Company, Satisfy, O.G Bape, District Vision, O.G Number (N)ine etc. something between Gorpcore/sportswear & japanese fashion. Those brands I wear are sometimes pretty expensive too and can be considered luxury, but the difference is that their Ethos is not around the traditional luxury we know, but those brand have values that we also have as consumers attached to their products that make them perceived in such way. When I see someone with those big luxury brands and skinny ripped jeans, you know what i’m talking about haha, my first thought is that they’re trying to flex and showoff their wealth, while on the other hand, if I see someone with smaller niche designer brands like story mfg, ROA, Undercover etc, there are two options. 1- the average person might not even know he’s wearing « designer » so his style might look cool but there’s not much more to it, or 2- someone might recognize the brands, but those who recognize them know that it is not to flex on people, but because they honestly like those brands and are into fashion since they’re lesser known brands from a macro society point of view.

[@alex_hunter7098]

If an item dosen't go (fully) out of style in your lifetime you can consider it as timless.

[@kyle_vr]

"Old Money" + "Hipster" = Pitti Uomo 2023? 🤷🏽‍♂️😄

[@comicog3]

As a lefty with a politics degree, I really loved this one. Always nice when two interests collide.

[@19Kenji]

I wanna preface this comment by saying I absolutely love these in depth intelllectual video essays, I really don’t see other creators putting this much thought and effort into these types of videos. Now onto my thoughts, I feel like status/ affluence doesn’t necessarily dictate culture, rather people that are affluent draw from culture to dictate what’s popular. I think those people have the ability to project themselves far and wide which is why certain things are deemed as in or out of fashion, and why some things are seen as status symbols and others aren’t. So in summary I feel like things that represent status are determined by the ruling class, but that they don’t dictate culture necessarily, rather drawing from culture at their own liking. I feel like this is where appropriation comes in, where pieces of culture from these micro societies and oppressed groups of people, that were originally deemed as out of the norm or lesser than, suddenly become fetishized and desirable. On another note, the way I personally see status symbols in fashion is less so about a class distinction and more so a pre determination of a persons character, or in other words a signifier that someone is interested in a particular niche. For example, I love Tabi boots and when I see other people with them, it’s an indicator of course that that person is apart of the community of people that enjoys that style of shoe. Or course the argument could be made that ownership of designer items is a societal status symbol in the first place but that’s not really what I’m getting at. I don’t think this comment was really cohesive, esp the second part but just my thoughts lol. I really love these types of videos and I can’t wait to watch the next one.

[@justeg6857]

pvv Oh my gosh! I am lithuanian! Vilnius is amazing, and if you want to see a basketball game the best place would be in Kaunas, they have a great team and a great arena.

[@DrewJoiner]

This is the info I need!!

[@OliverRehn]

#pvv I think it's really interesting and cool that you want to go to Lithuania. It's not a very common travel destination and it's quite a small place so it's cool you'd be experiencing a nation very few experience. I also think most smaller nations with less tourism secretly have goldmines of activities and culture waiting to be discovered. Perhaps I will go to Lithuania myself sometime. It's not very far! Peace and Love from Sweden!

[@kolja7891]

so I really don't comment often but I really have to say that the quality of your videos is not out of this planet

[@DrewJoiner]

Is not? I think I get what you are saying 🤝😁😂

[@kolja7891]

HAHA you see i'm still learning English

[@muscleimmaturity]

Honestly, not sure I agree here. I don’t think high status creates new trends, rather, historically trends have been appropriated from lower status groups and adopted by high status groups. dDue to their visibility in that position, have promoted this ‘new’ style as their own. I think it’s a slippery slope to attribute culture and fashion to groups that have built their status on taking advantage of groups of a lower status.

[@khairulhelmihashim2510]

Humans are social being. Therefore, we always transmitting and interpreting communication signals to each other visually or verbally. Through the process of interpreting these signals, we are able to make quick life decisions whether the other person is attractive, hostile, trustworthy, intimidating, weak, etc. Status in society will be defined after the majority shared a similar interpretation and appreciation of these communication signals, giving birth to culture. The more desirable qualities a person has shown through these signals, the more elevated his/her status in society. The cycle is complete when people aspiring to achieve a particular status, will try every way to emulate the signals sent by by those in status. In response, people in status will try every way to preserve their exclusivity by outdoing others either through material acquisition, laws, or customs.

[@jackmcbride9939]

who made that beanie you're wearing?

[@sophiabagaoui5501]

WOW. Your structural/class analysis on fashion is extremely important and interesting. Bravo!

[@sw0j]

hi drew :D

[@DrewJoiner]

you the best

[@slicedmittens5296]

Hi drew i want to see the Netherlands

[@_calvinkao]

You wearing the canoe club Orslow collab?

[@DrewJoiner]

Yes!

[@Dada35288]

Based Drew

[@jeromel4563]

#pvv 👊🏾🤜🏾 well i dont really know where i wanna travel, but probably japan or korea...since ive already been to the philipines i just wanna see other asian cultures.

[@jamesbarker5650]

#PVV Hawaii for me can’t lie, it’s kinda romanticised in films and I guess I’m a sucker for that, coming from the UK some nice weather and beaches is always attractive to us ❤

[@ryeofoatmeal]

I used to believe people wear for themselves, they don't care about other people's opinions on fashion . but actually, YOU DO CARE. or else why these fashion in status exist? it's not like you wanna feel the most stylish person in the world or the coolest in town. it's more to how well dressed and how much sense of style you have. notice that's the keyword prince charles use. I think we all can agree to that. whenever I look at people on street, those 2 are always in my mind pvv: I always wanted to go to Norway. I have visited once in Oslo but I wanna go again 😁 other scandanavian countries intrigue me as well

[@alecparker14]

Drew help me solve my internal conflict! I caved and bought the chocolate brown carhartt canvas zip up jacket at a local vintage pop up yesterday, but my question is, does that now dictate my level of “fashion intelligence”? I love it. The contemplation lies in that I don’t know if buying this “mainstream” item is a hinderance or exception in the originality of my personal style journey? It’s something that I’ve looked at from afar and loved the thought of having one, but not the associated characteristics 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@DrewJoiner]

in my honest opinion Alec what dictates your level of fashion intelligence is your level of fashion intelligence. NOT what you decide to wear. People may judge you and they always will whether you're wearing carhartt or prada. I wouldn't sweat it too much as long as wha you are wearing resonates with you

[@n.e.r.d3730]

#pvv I’d love to go to Copenhagen,, hopefully I’ll be able to soon🥰

[@kornjo27]

#pvv tbh i would like to visit iceland. it seems so peaceful and the nature is beautiful too. i just like its vibe u get me! other than that myb japan or something like that

[@eric36518708]

Tokyo Japan all about that culture, want to visit there for my graduation in may #pvv

[@wanderer426]

hi drew :)

[@DrewJoiner]

Hi 🫶

[@thebigbadpumpkin]

where’s your shirt from?

[@DrewJoiner]

Orslow x canoe club workwear jacket

[@theo3131]

BRASIL REFERENCE 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👍 GRANDE DIA!!!

[@meow-px6kk]

my dutch ass when hearing the e bike was a status symbol... no its an age symbol

[@Anymonous246]

“Commanders in Chief of the sneaker heads are DJ Khaled, Tyga, and Lil Yachty...”

[@Mezelenja]

#pvv I've recently become obsessed with Czechia. The language caught my attention first, then I started dicking around on Google Earth n really fell i love with the place. One day I'll go to Prague on gawd.

[@phillipmeddock902]

I got in to fashion solely (pun intended) because of sneakers

[@nerdsavvy1]

#pvv Japan for sure. Mexico maybe. It's the country my parents are from but their home towns don't particularly sound safe to visit.

[@prodhomerun]

great video. Ive always dreamed of travelling to somewhere in africa. Closest to africa ive been is the canary islands and gibraltar. #pvv

[@Ramses060784]

PERU Macchu Picchu

[@misssinister7936]

I agree but beyond how things are being made ethically or not. The future may also see us without clothes but rather I'm space suits...I am BTW Lithuanian

[@Def_not_Ana]

08:34 (Adding to the convo about Macro and subcultures, with focus on Brazil) - Here at Brazil we have a lot of fast fashion and due to the country's economy and inequality of richness, we found ourselves buying over and over from the same brands, who do not even have a correct sense of "winter"/"summer" collection. Personally, I view these stores (in which I myself buy) as just a random purchase per day. The thing that has me thinking enough to comment was when you spoke less known brands VS Really known brands and used ZARA as an example. Funny enough, at Brazil, Zara was considered luxury brand, the type that you only see in a few malls around the cities, mostly sticking with others such as FARM (Usually known as a brand that white woman enjoy) Also AQUAMAR and others. AND HERE LIES THE AMAZING THING! Recently, the fast fashion stores (Renner, C&A, etc) are TRYING to make themselves look luxury by getting their prices HIGHER, into a point where a shirt at Zara is being less expensive than a shirt at Renner. Both qualities suck, and I mean it, as I have clothes from both. It's just so interesting to see how fast fashion has circled a whole way into a point where to be considered luxurious is a matter of price rather than quality (This, when we are looking at middle class VS poor people buying clothes.. The actual rich ones tend to buy outside the country, I'm talking like taking empty baggages only to come back full. It's just...a lot to think. Thought you might like this inside. Great video (as usual!) have a nice day!

[@Junior-jz2ug]

you know what i thought watching this as a brazilian person? how some menswear subcultures in the brazilian favelas often make use of items that convey status. Like how men who dress in a "chavoso" style often wear items that come from a preppy tradition, from brands that are very associated with the middle class trying to replicate their idea of the brazilian elite, like Ralph Lauren or Lacoste, but all of this is done through a streetwear lens by wearing a polo shirt going up three sizes to create an oversized look, or picking up shirt or accessories with visible logos. Also how soccer jersey is often seen as a status item, theses shirts can easyly cost over R$250,00 and some men collect them, for many it's the most expensive piece they own

[@Def_not_Ana]

@@Junior-jz2ug Ok i loved every word you typed AND YES ABSOLUTELY!! It's nearly subversive, almost a sarcastic in a way of taking from the elite and reusing in a different way. It gives a "You use this? So do I"

[@Junior-jz2ug]

Or like, remember when in the early 2010s teeth braces were seen as attractive (literally being wore as fashion accessory, even when people didn't need it) by brazilians teens living in poor areas of the country, because it was something assocciated with the middle class. Crazy times

[@Def_not_Ana]

@@Junior-jz2ug Oh my YES! Also remember when middle class used to NEVER listen to funk, and then High status people started to listen and sing so they just followed along??

[@Junior-jz2ug]

Wait, there is more... tanned skin, in many places in europe or the US is seen as a status symbol, here in Brazil is no different, but in a particular way. Brazil is the only place that I know of that values tan lines, with some women going as far as wearing tape bikinis to get the perfect placement and sharpness. If u ask them why they like it they most likely will say that they think it's sexy. But notice how it is also conected to status, tan lines are the true mark of a real brazilian tan, the one you got by siting in the sun doing nothing like yr freaking royalty and not the tan you get by walking in the sun to go to work in a tropical country everyday. I can think of this for days, but i'm going to stop. It's saddens because all of this diversity comes from us being deeply socially unequal. But Brazil is the perfect place to thing of symbols of status...

[@urlauber2884]

K-Pop is a micro society? A niche ostracized by the main stream? Idk if you only apply that to you or the US or what, but K-pop is most definitely mainstream culture, not sub culture. Also sorry if I come across as way too negative, I really like your thoughts and videos😂

[@DrewJoiner]

Yeah I see what you’re saying, it’s definitely mainstream but I mean it didn’t always start out like that

[@hopboi2017]

#pvv I would love to visit japan because of their car culture, I love the JDM culture there.

[@MochaxMatcha]

I wonder what outfits/items are considered "put together. No matter what for women other than a pair of heels. For example, men just have to wear a suit and they look smart. It's doesn't have to be designer, just solid colors like black or navy, just a button up collar shirt, blazer, pants, and loafers, a man is set. Women's fashion is so creative with varieties because part of women's fashion is always wearing something new. But for say "the outfit" a pair of heels and some sparkling jewelry is a necessity. I'm thinking a dress or skirt, but then "what kind" of dress would always looks good, fashionable, smart? Maybe the little black dress? Idk. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@hnguyen218]

think u should shoutout David W Marx

[@DrewJoiner]

I did!

[@miguelrivera4314]

Pvv answer: Japan

[@shandelljohnston7531]

#PVV I would love to visit Osaka in Japan and also Edinburgh in Scotland