Drinker's Chasers - Total Disaster: Star Wars Hotel Closing After Just One Year

[@justsomeguy2511]

The main problem is they made a hotel too expensive for most of the starry eyed fans that would actually want to go there, while the few who could afford 6000 a night are the type to spend it in the Bahamas with a box of cigars rather than blow it at a cosplay resort

[@tjroelsma]

Wait, are you trying to say that Disney has lost all contact with its fans? Surely that can't be......... oh, wait. LOL

[@Desolaytore]

A lame era they picked too.

[@FreedomAndPeaceOnly]

_" Nooooooo, the fans are so r°cist for not liking our new age _*_'r°celess r°cism'_*_ those biggots!! "_

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

I mean it’s $4000 for a family of 2, which is better than $6000. But still. The other big problem is that it’s exclusively Disney Star Wars, nothing to do with OT or Clone wars, the biggest success drivers of Star Wars.

[@yumjoystyle2]

More like a box of ''h00 kers'' and blow at the resort.

[@GIBBO4182]

It’s a hotel priced for super rich nerds, but built for broke Twitter activists!

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Exactly. My friends and I were talking about this and were like who would drop $6000 on this for a 2 night trip? If it encompassed all of Star Wars, particularly the OT and maybe the Clone Wars, I could see a lot of big Star Wars fans going. But instead it’s made exclusively for Disney Star Wars fans which none exist. And those that do, won’t drop even $1000 on this. Disney has completely ruined Star Wars that nobody wants anything to do with it anymore.

[@jmcenanly1]

You're basically locked into a film set with no windows for two days. It is solitary confinement for you and and three of your friends

[@bruhdon4748]

@@Lawrence_Talbot wait it 6k for 2 nights??? Fuck that I’d rather go on holiday to Spain for a month

[@josephbrown9685]

It’d be a stretch for it to be worth it at that price for 6 nights if it were based on the original trilogy. Having it based on the Disney trilogy for 2 nights at that price is delusional.

[@captnwinkle]

Couldn't have said it better

[@scottwalker1300]

Last time I was at Disneyland, Chewy and Rey were walking up path - Everyone was swarming Chewy for pics, starry eyed kids and adults alike. Actually felt bad for the Rey employee, standing literally alone 20 feet away. We had our 1 year old granddaughter in a stroller standing to the side as well. She walked over and said Hi. Employee was very nice, but man, the tired look of rejection wore heavily on her.

[@reubensandwich9249]

Somebody get this walking carpet out of my way.

[@skrubsandnubs2970]

I saw pretty much the same thing when I was there. They had one of the buildings in Tomorrow land converted for Star Wars stuff, and they had characters in rooms that you could go in and meet. The line for Chewy was three rows deep and there was no line at all for Rey. I felt bad as well and went in to say hi as there was no line. She was extremely nice, but I could see that same tired look of rejection.

[@BWMagus]

How do you even pretend to be Rey? Besides trying to look like her, she doesn't even have character traits to mimic or notable lines to quote. Any employee who does that and makes any sort of impression should be hired as an actual actress immediately, because not even Daisy Ridley made Rey interesting.

[@SharpTooth302]

That happened

[@legendarydavo]

I also feel bad for Daisey Ridley. Like I feel bad for the employees who aren't a part of the woke stuff... They're the ones who suffer most... it sucks.

[@tygerstripes3752]

That $6K cost for the Galactic Cruiser was for 2 Guests Per Cabin for a 2-night stay, inclusive of food and drink except alcohol. For comparison, I found a company in Poland who were offering a Witcher School 3-day all-inclusive LARP experience that cost about $575 in US dollars and included costumes, food, and lodging.

[@johansandstrom6422]

Nice!

[@tygerstripes3752]

@@johansandstrom6422 It looks genuinely fun, is limited to 124 attendees and takes place in an actual castle!

[@melon3860]

interesting

[@davidmclean357]

from what little I have seen Europe goes all in on LARP.

[@ukaszskrzynski5987]

@@davidmclean357 I guess it is easier than dealing with reality

[@Jasper_Silva]

"We believe Star Wars should be for everyone". Makes sw product for rich people only.

[@hope-cat4894]

Disney is so focused on fighting racism and sexism that they forgot classism affects _everyone._ They keep catering to rich people who aren't going to Disneyland and are ignoring the filthy middle class peasants. 😑

[@magma_fire_bagwan]

In those circles, rich people are the only people who exist. Everyone else is vermin

[@Emppu_T.]

Things aren't for everyone but rather anyone. Forget that and this happen

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

If i was a marketer, I'd make it 700€ at most, per week.

[@SvendleBerries]

Remember: The Force is female. So of course it's going to be expensive as hell.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

Disney is like a gambler that sit with a perfect hand and still, somehow, finds a way to loose.

[@rciafardone]

They acquired Marvel and SW specifically to cater to boys demographic, and they chopped everyone balls... 😂😂😂

[@chasehedges6775]

@@rciafardone How ironic.

[@drewsarkisian9375]

My OCD is kicking in..."lose", not "loose" 🙂

[@Nytephyre]

Lose? They have F U money. How exactly do they lose? Mindless morons will continue to go to their parks and watch their movies.

[@shuturmouthkeeptlkn9384]

​@Renzo Ciafardone this what kills me with Disney, they literally have an IP for every demographic but instead of making original stories they tried to copy and paste and baiting switch and it's lead to this shit show we see now.

[@BrennanCh06]

I am a 14 year military officer and took my Kids to disney world last year. Can confirm it requires an intense level of planning and coordination to meet the timelines effectively.

[@CornyBum]

"Oh, so we miss hit times for rides we begged for now, Donnie? Roger that. I know how to fix this..." "BUT DADDY, I'M SORR-" "Get your water source and hydrate, you got 30 seconds."

[@bkondrk]

Yup, and thx for you service to the military, @Thorsvald . I know this must be a total shock to Di$ney's management, but most people go on vacation to relax and have fun, not run around like they're late for a train all day.

[@pavelowjohn9167]

If you have running TOTs for all the rides that you signed your family up for, that's probably a bad sign 🙂

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Omg, 14 years olds can't be military officers... 🙄🙄🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Durzo1259]

There you go: with 14 years of elite tactical training, you *can* survive a Disney vacation! So I don't know what people are complaining about. 😂

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

It was so creative, so bold, so stunning and such a success we're shutting down... To preserve the legacy... No refunds.

[@Dinoslay]

Good riddance.

[@LittleMopeHead]

I got to pay rent. Where's my rent?!

[@thecloudtherapist]

If someone acting as Rey asked me at the resort to help her on a mission, I'd probably say: Nah, it'll be fine!

[@superdave8248]

You got this girl. Peace!

[@Ender7j]

Why would Rey need help with anything? She is almost able to bring people back from the dead…

[@joelellis7035]

"Let the past die!"

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

How could she even ask for help, she can make enemies of the republic just disappear as the spawn of Palpatine.

[@TheLoraxshadenough]

Hit her with the Skyrim guard "never should've come here."

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

Only the middle managers at Disney would think the average family would love spending 5k a night at a hotel

[@KLRN-qc7jp]

Middle managers are the blight of this world...

[@yumjoystyle2]

During a recession. Even after they changed the definition.

[@spawn9129]

​@@yumjoystyle2 funny how they always do that

[@The328th]

5k _per person_

[@spinlok3943]

I often wonder if it’s the lawyer from Jurassic Park running Disney now.

[@alexfriedman918]

$6000/night?! Kathleen Kennedy really has a high opinion of herself - she doesn’t even look that flexible!

[@texasbeast239]

No no no. You got it all backwards. In today's Star Wars, Kathleen Kennedy screws YOU!!!

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

It’s not $6000 a night. It’s $6000 for 2 nights for a family of 4. Not saying that’s acceptable, but the pricing is based on the number of guests. 2 guests is something like $1200 per guest per night coming out to $4800 for the weekend. 4 guests is like $750 per guest per night coming out to $6000 for the weekend.

[@KLRN-qc7jp]

Oh god man, wtf? I'm gouing to puke...

[@tygerstripes3752]

@@Lawrence_Talbot I did find a website that said that $6K figure was for the slow season and during the busy season, the cost for 3 adults and one child at the GC was more like $10K. When I look at something like that -- the quality of the GC LARP experience was pathetic to hear about -- I have to think that it was built to fail as a tax write-off. Unless they're truly trying to sell only to millionaires and billionaires who have that kind of cheddar to throw around.

[@dontshootmex5588]

Oh god XD

[@davidsummer8631]

With the way her career is going Disney might be able to get Daisy Ridley to play Rey at a Disney theme park

[@TheWarmachine375]

Disney: "How could this happen? Are we so out of touch with our fans that ruined Star Wars?" Also Disney: "No, it's the fans' fault!! It's Doubling Down time!"

[@joshlyon1315]

I don't care what Disney says, they can say whatever they want, I not going to pay attention to whatever their say.

[@BilldeSarse]

"It's Doubling Down time!" Lamest superhero catchphrase ever! 😁

[@chasehedges6775]

@@BilldeSarse It’s Disney Time

[@sakkra93]

Disney: "How did this happen? We're smarter than this!" Fans: "Apparently not..."

[@Durzo1259]

"Am I so out of touch? No... it's the children who are wrong." - Principal Skinner, Disney.

[@planetbob6703]

Turns out making an overpriced hotel while alienating most of the hardcore fans wasn’t the best move... Only left those too blinded by love for the brand that they’d buy anything with the name Star Wars slapped on... Not too many of those left...

[@viewitnow3539]

Sounds like the entirety of the DNC.

[@Red0543]

It’s almost like building a Star Wars themed hotel (that has no actual Star Wars in it) and charging people 6000$(!) for a two day stay was a bad call. Huh, who could’ve guessed!?

[@mariobadia4553]

I think another thing was that the Cruiser has this whole storyline thing where this Star Wars character lady comes up to to you and tries to make you pay along. You don't pay $6,000 for two nights just do get harassed by some lady in Cosplay

[@chrispekel5709]

​@@mariobadia4553 can you sleep with her? I want my money's worth

[@Puzzoozoo]

Have you seen pictures of the Lucas Land, a park with all the EU OG locations, with a Death Star as the hub? Pity it was never built.

[@snapdragon9300]

$6000 us dollars for two nights? 😂 I paid $2500 us dollars for a 14 day cruise ship/Pacific Adventure from Sydney to French Polynesia and Fiji, in late 2019.😂 Tons of onboard entertainment. Alcoholic Drinks pass included . Concerts.Magic shows.Comedy shows. Movie theatres. 12 different restaurants all free. Mini Shopping malls 5 niteclubs onboard. Massage parlour and spas. Waterslide park and flying fox. Fully equiped Gyms.

[@moaningpheromones]

all i saw was massage parlour

[@nhmooytis7058]

Bit you’re not an imbecile 😂.

[@snapdragon9300]

@@moaningpheromones Not that kind. 😆Swedish without the nudity and 'extras'😆

[@JasonOneill-yg6fj]

I love the fact that people are still calling Leia Princess Leia instead of General Leia it just goes to show you how much the original material meant to us that we refused to acknowledge the current Star Wars for what it is

[@NLBusiness391]

I watched the first two of the sequel movies once and never bothered to watch the third one, whereas I can’t count how many times I’ve watched the other 6 movies. So glad I avoided having to endure “somehow, Sheev Skywal- uh, Palpatine returned”

[@DeflatingAtheism]

Leia can have achieved the rank of general, but she would still be a girl boss candle flickering in Rey’s girl boss sun.

[@pygmalion137]

Disney should incorporate Gary the Stormtrooper from Robot Chicken skits into their Starcruiser Hotel. Gary could be the tour guide taking guests around the hotel just like he took his daughter in "Taking Your Daughter to Work Day" episode.

[@flunk_waffle8073]

Gary here never gets to see his daughter!

[@andystegall7407]

See that would be amazing.

[@heatseekerx51]

I heard the guy who sold Disney the Galactic Starcruiser also sold starcruisers to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook.

[@salinium]

And by GUM, it put them on the map!

[@franklintheturtle6343]

Made my morning ❤

[@Sam_T2000]

the kids can call you “Ho-Ju!”

[@vahrzawofficialtracks]

The big one was called ‘Bitey’.

[@cowetascore8476]

The name's Lanley. Lyle Lanley

[@TheWarmachine375]

Galactic Starcruiser: *about to close* General Grievous: "Time to abandon ship!"

[@AnnoyingMoose]

Kathleen Kennedy: "Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances!"

[@joelellis7035]

​@@AnnoyingMoose then Luke fires the proton torpedoes into the exhaust port. 💥 😊 Balance has returned to the Force.

[@ryann6919]

Hey if this took place in the prequel/clone wars era (or especially the original trilogy), it would have been way more popular. But they HAD to base it off everyone's least favorite star wars

[@Megarobotsquadron]

I was in Europe a little while ago and took the family to Disney Paris. it was just such a terrible day. overly complicated, and half the rides were down. the kids wanted to go home. the biggest issue was that we went to Tivoli in Copenhagen two days earlier and that was pretty much the best amusement park experience they had ever had

[@Thedoorway123]

Then that's your fault for going to the world's worst disney park

[@dismalfist]

Hahaha also went to Tivoli many years back! Yeah it all just "works" there, and did back in the day too. Lovely day out.

[@PeteCourtier]

@@Thedoorway123 Euro Disney is fucking awful. Never again, tacky, soulless and shit.

[@mimsythemockingbird]

I LOVE Tivoli! Simply magical!

[@Megarobotsquadron]

@@Thedoorway123 I've been to Florida Disney and it was great. I'm talking about the complexity of this. I couldn't get a park map. We had to use a phone app. And the only main ride that was open was pirates of the Carribean. But I've been told by Disney park fans that you need to do ALL your research before hand. That isn't fun. I want to go into a park and let the day take me. And I don't think you can do that at Disney anymore

[@carlrood4457]

I went to Disney as a kid and a teenager (now in 50's). Back then you simply walked around to each area of the park and road the rides in order. Then at the end of the day, you'd run back to the ones you wanted to do again. FastPass and now Genie have you running from one end to another to fit a schedule. If you happen to run into a show or parade on the way, you're trying for another way around instead of stopping and enjoying it.

[@freddiestinson1117]

Yes I miss the old old days too on how Disney used to be, it so sad how it has all gone down hill.

[@rickj.9202]

True. When I was married, my ex planned our Disney trips. On one single day she had us in all four parks. We were in one of them twice (a show at Magic Kingdom in the morning, then Animal Kingdom, then MGM, then EPCOT, then fireworks at Magic Kingdom at night). “We’ll start in Magic Kingdom and see (whatever). Then at 10:00 AM we’ll go to Animal Kingdom and see (whatever). And so on. All day.

[@bigduphusaj162]

Leftists don't want anyone hanging about anywhere they can enjoy themselves. I'd have thought that was obvious by now as they have destroyed absolutely everything else they have got involved in. In general if anything is ran by leftists it tanks immediately and ends up a horrible soulless mess.

[@carlrood4457]

Did it never occur to anyone that if you're on a "cruise ship" in the middle of Star Wars, then you're probably the bad guy? The rebels were hiding out in jungles and ice planets. They weren't on luxury cruises.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

Considering it’s wartime- it is Star WARS, after all- an interstellar luxury liner would be be biggest sitting duck in the galaxy!

[@michaelt.5672]

Technically, "cruiser" and "cruise ship" aren't the same thing. "Cruiser" (the term they were using here) is an actual military designation for ships. But considering that the missions of a cruiser, which are long-range patrol, commerce protection and power projection, are tasks useful to empires rather than rebellions, the point still stands.

[@atomicdancer]

The Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser hotel is where Han Solo and Princess Leia spent their honeymoon. By the end of their stay, they had already filed for divorce.

[@ghostknight1865]

People have already gone over this - Galaxy's Edge and indeed modern Star Wars "erases" the OG trilogy because even though George Lucas sold the company, they still have to pay royalties for all the old stuff. And they don't want to, that's what it boils down to.

[@christimacc]

That explanation makes what's being done to Star Wars even worse. It's like driving away 10 dollars of business to save 30 cents.

[@stunner9005]

Paying royalties is chump change compared to a failing IP.

[@SharpTooth302]

Source?

[@ghostknight1865]

@@SharpTooth302 I don't know where it is exactly. One of these "Movie / Fandom Menace" channels (WCB, Doomcock, Kamran Pasha, Geeks and Gamers, etc) had someone on that explained it a few years ago. I'm surprised I haven't seen it mentioned over the years. Marvel and DC's push for the new failing characters is not just ideology, it also comes from having to pay royalties on the old ones and current rights sharing (like Sony actually owns part of the Peter Parker Spider-Man character, not just the movie rights).

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

The writer's strike should make it clear. CEOs don't want to be paying for people's established (and SUCCESSFUL) IPs. Nope, they want to own it all. That way, they don't owe royalties to anyone, because THEY are the self-proclaimed Kings and Queens. Doesn't sound like KK at all, huh? 🙄😂🤣😕🤢🤮

[@scionofdorn9101]

Watching Az's face while Platoon read their spin on the closing was worth the whole video. And If Sargon isn't painting a miniature, I'm a Chinese jet pilot.

[@oldgoat142]

🤣🤣so do you fly the J-2? Or something ancient? That was great!

[@scionofdorn9101]

@@oldgoat142 No, is super-secret super-weapon. No can speak. Americans must not know. Is massive weapon, much like American penis. (Why, yes, KZbin algorithm, I AM Asian-American. I can make these jokes. AND I'm an USAF vet, so bonus points! 😆)

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Did you like flying the MIG-21? 😉

[@kwazhims3lf]

ya.. you can hear him 'beating the devil' out of brushes

[@dragonknightleader1]

Now that you mention it, it IS a weird way to chill out. No, don't spend free time with his wife and children and dog, but be in a conference he's half-paying attention to.

[@Troopertroll]

The last time I went to WDW, my whole family was running from one end of the parks to the other, back and forth trying to meet all of our ride and dining reservations. It was exhausting. Compared to Universal, the most you really worry about is racing to Hagrid's Motorbikes at rope drop and then exploring the rest of the attractions at your leisure. Almost like a vacation.

[@willythepeachfacelovebird]

Once upon a time in this galaxy... many years ago.... a movie ticket was less than ten bucks on cheap night. Now....

[@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971]

The image of Han and Leia sitting stone-faced on the rides at Disneyland and just being like "This blows" is so hilarious.

[@AdmiralBonetoPick]

Just to be clear, the "$1 billion" figure people are throwing about was actually the cost of building the entire Star Wars land (actually closer to $1.5 billion). The hotel itself cost $350 million to build. Problem is there are also running costs: Disney was assuming it would consistently get 100% occupancy at full price, yielding them a 30% margin on bookings (after staff and other running costs). The hotel actually made a profit in its first year, but this year when they saw they could no longer fill it even after slashing prices, they realised it was going to start losing money every year if they kept it open. All told, net of tax write-offs etc, will Disney have lost about $250 million on this experiment.

[@ACABFuck12_89]

Source on the 350 million figure for the hotel. Seems low. I've seen both 1 billion dollars and half a billion dollars. Probably likely somewhere in the middle. And I also think your estimate is low for the entirety of Star Wars land which I read was 2 billion. I think it's fair to say that Disney lost about a billion dollars on this hotel.

[@CaptainReedo40]

Dismantling something that cost $250-$350 million to build, is not free. That could easily add another $20-50 million in costs.

[@AdmiralBonetoPick]

@CaptainReedo40 They're not going to dismantle it. They have no need to. They can just corden it off and abandon it like they did their "Legendary Years" hotel. Alternatively, they might block off the majority of it, keep the decorations in situ and re-open just a small part of it as a bar/restaurant for the public.

[@TheSharkIsWorking_23]

A good theory. This hotel was suppose to be Canto Bight, and after the poor response to Canto in TLJ they completely rushed to re-do the hotel project and this was “the best” they could do with making a Star Wars hotel and why it look so cheap with its hefty price tag. Thrilled to see this inevitably crash and burn.

[@RSG_TheMonster]

The Drinker rocking a suit is something I never thought I would see....

[@kyanrinel5898]

That’s a dress shirt and vest, not a suit.

[@IncredibleMet]

He’s gone to court on charges for a drunk and disorderly behaviour, nudity, urinating on a police car and refusing arrest. Typical night out in Glasgow.

[@j-mc5201]

He’s due in front of the magistrate for drunken misbehaviour outside a Disney Store 🤣 Lead on Sir!

[@TheWarmachine375]

Manners maketh man

[@Mabra51]

The Dapper Drinker

[@maxbaugh9372]

What they should've done with the Starcruiser is have a distinct "voyage" for each trilogy era & rotate through them on an annual basis. This appeals to a wider audience and obligates the more die-hard fans to come back multiple times.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

I think it should have been a Star Wars THEME hotel, while not being dogmatic about immersion and timeline continuity. You can have elective LARPing elements for the hardcore fans, while also having amenities like a pool and a spa for family members being dragged along who think Star Wars is gay.

[@kerravon168]

Here's the question - was it coincidence, incompetence, or conspiracy that the timing of the announcement of closing the so-called star wars hotel happened exactly when the Cannes premiere of Indianna Jones and the dial of who cares anymore was happening.

[@scionofdorn9101]

LMAO I'm pretty sure "Indiana Jones and the Dial of Who Cares Anymore" was its actual production title.

[@stellabrando9308]

@@scionofdorn9101 Dial D for Dentistry.

[@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167]

Coincidence. Cannes isn't really about big budget "blockbusters".

[@khylerbane4523]

The mere fact the hotel, let alone Galaxy’s Edge, wasn’t modeled of the Jedi Temple or even Mos Esly for Galaxy’s Edge, and contained things from the entire Star Wars universe was a good indicator of just how much logic was used and how aware Disney is of their own fanbase, what they want and what they like.

[@dbf1dware]

My wife and I, and my two kids (living in Seattle, WA... yeah, I know, ugh) used to go to Great Wolf Lodge every winter for my daughter's bday (and because it was dark and cold here). Big wilderness, animal themed lodge with a huge water park (all indoors, except for a few outdoor hot tubs which was awesome). They had variously themed restaurants. They had this "magic" themed interactive game with wands and level-ups and secrets, etc. All four of us (and a couple of times we brought 2-3 of my daughter's friends as well) would spend 3-4 days and nights there for 2-3 grand. Had a FANTASTIC time running around with the kids, shooting their magic wands at everything trying to make them move and say something, gathering clues to unlock further magic clues. They had employees telling stories to the kids several times each day. They had animatronic animals talking to the kids all over the place. The "magic" game was actually engaging with at least a vague plot. We went there probably 5 years in a row and had a great time each time. Disney could SO EASILY have made something even better than that. Give Great Wolf Lodge a shot. We absolutely LOVED it, again 4 or 5 years in a row with our kids. Great stuff. Sheesh, just build an interactive resort for the kids (and parents) to explore and interact with. Then set the kids loose. Printing money like no tomorrow.

[@Anonymous-lj2os]

Too many obnoxious blacks at GWL.

[@harbl99]

KK: "We don't want to be mired in the past." To which we can only reply. "You know the entire Star Wars thing was one guy's nostalgic love for 1930s scifi serials, old war movies, and samurai films mashed up into a big stew, right? The entire thing runs on 'being mired in the past'. You ran errands for that guy for years, didn't you learn anything?"

[@BilldeSarse]

To ask the question is to know the answer.

[@SeanA099]

Also, fun thing. To keep the immersion, they didn’t have any windows in the rooms or hallways, just had fake screen windows. That would be kind of unsettling for me

[@joesmutz9287]

Some of my funnest times at Disney were wandering around and accidentally stumbling into something we'd never done before They really don't understand that the experience is being there, not specifically doing things

[@magma_fire_bagwan]

I don't think anyone in charge of things like this remembers that anymore.

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

If they'd have just made a West World type experience set in Mos Eisley (and charged way less of course) they might've had something, and that way you could've had Luke, Han, Chewie and even Vader turn up too. Instead they had to pile on the Disney Era cringe.

[@spawn9129]

That was actually the plan originally, until Kathleen Kennedy stepped in

[@zubinpachori1543]

Took my family there last year, for my son's 8th birthday. It was way over priced, and the only way my wife and I survived was by copius drinking. The kids had a great time with a lot of activities. But my 4 year old was definetly ruining the larping experience of 40 some year old children, trying desperately to serve their faction.

[@Huspree2011]

So many large personalities in one stream. Can't wait to listen to this one. Looks fun.

[@kevinoneil5120]

For comparisons sake. My girlfriend, her kid, and myself are staying at an all-inclusive Mexican resort this summer. We're there for a week. That whole experience, for all three of us, INCLUDING FLIGHTS, costs less than a single night at Galaxy's Edge.

[@JohnnyFontane528]

You’re taking care of another man’s child?

[@russ254]

@@JohnnyFontane528 f off with your moralizing about someone else’s life

[@bigduphusaj162]

Dam dude that cash could have bought a you a motorbike. Unlucky

[@bigduphusaj162]

​@@JohnnyFontane528 well your "mum and dad" took care of you and you don't hear us saying "why are they taking care of what came out a test tube"

[@mattiasilva1705]

​​@@JohnnyFontane528 is that something wrong with that? My grandpa isn't my biological one either, and yet he took care of both my mother and my aunt since they were children. And in the present, the person that I and my sister calls "grandpa" is him.

[@isleofredemption]

It really is a shame- the idea of an immersive theater hotel is a really fun idea. I even accept that it would probably cost a lot for upkeep and to pay actors. Leave it to Disney to louse it up in spectacular fashion.

[@alancranford3398]

Team Disney is ignoring its own history. When Disneyland opened, "where is Mickey Mouse?" People on the Snow White adventure didn't get the memo--"you are Snow White." Peter Pan's Flight has undergone a lot of changes since July 17, 1955. It took months for Walt to figure out that he needed Disney characters in his Disneyland. Walt didn't like the repeated cries for more Three Little Pig sequels--"pigs can't top pigs." The current Team Disney is enraged at fandom for expecting to see Star Wars characters instead of the self-insert Team Disney characters that could be dropped into any story. Even referencing Luke or Darth Vader makes their blood boil and they turn green with envy. They don't accept that "the customer is always right."

[@FuzzWoof]

If they made things where people could go and live for a day in a Lucas-era Star Wars setting, they could charge whatever they wanted and they'd still be fighting people off with sticks. But no, they have to Disney-era-ify it all and I think they're discovering just how small the paying audience really is for that.

[@deathsdoor07]

How cool would it be to spend a weekend at SW themed Bespun or Wookie home world?

[@Puzzoozoo]

They had planned it, look at a concept picture of Lucas Land.

[@misterdeath2929]

I must say, Disney has done a very good job at making me disinterested in franchises I used to be very passionate about, Star Wars and Marvel are 2 of the biggest names in that, but I haven't watched a film or series from either franchise in well over a year... And we thought the Mouse was buying everything up just to own it all, but it's just to make everything so terrible that we have no choice but to watch, because there's no other option for entertainment.

[@janicken2086]

Yeah same. 100% agree.

[@incurableromantic4006]

From what I'm hearing about going to Disneyland - it's rapidly tipping over that threshold where people look meaningfully at each other and go: "This isn't actually. . . . .fun" .

[@jb_makesgames2264]

Rags was bang on - my wife found planning our disney trip a couple of years ago was the most complex planning exercise ever and she loves trip planning. The cost is also prohibitive especially if your not paying in USD.

[@barrybend7189]

You know they also focused on non familiar characters. No money makers anywhere.

[@RedSiegfried]

It's a LARPing experience that plays out more like a white collar prison.

[@electricbayonet2]

6:22 “The honeymoon location of Han and Leia.” Considering how the sequels showed their relationship turned out? I can believe it.

[@rockndoc883]

My advice to anybody getting ready for their first visit to the tragic Kingdom with kids in tow is to make sure you have a weeks vacation after your “vacation“. When you wait a half hour just to go from the parking lot to the tram, which takes you to the next line just to get onto the monorail, which then takes you to the next line just to get into the park and then an hour and 15 minute line for a 45 second Aladdin Ride followed by a $10 bottle of water and a $15 chicken breast sandwich you realize that maybe the pool at the hotel would’ve been more fun.

[@TrinaJulianEdwards]

I think it's crazy that instead of, say, lowering the prices and making it more affordable for the average Disney goer, they're just going to close it. I guess so they can write it off as a loss... What a waste.

[@markiangooley]

It’s supposed to run until almost the end of September. They really can’t let go even when they’ve decided to shut down!

[@deathsdoor07]

Probably contract obligations.

[@damianarchibald7792]

Lying to their audience and then shafting them out of all of their money isn't exactly a new thing from Disney.

[@TheColosiss]

The worst part was that the 6000/night hotels were little more than a cruise line closet with a bunk bed in it...

[@John-uh5et]

What a luxury it is to be able to make such profit-crushing errors in judgment and still be in business.

[@pohjanakka4992]

I suppose a cosplay hotel might work well enough IF the cosplay was voluntary and maybe restricted to some specific areas of the place. So if you want to play you know when something will be going on and where you need to go to take part. And you could easily avoid that if you are not all that interested. And definitely not at those prices. The people who would be most interested are mostly people who can't afford those. And yes, it should be based on what is most popular. So, the era of the first trilogy.

[@Mr72Dolphins]

If only they had made it about the "Star Wars Holiday Special ", then it would be lit!

[@andrewmccall9446]

It would have been cool if they made a star wars hotel if they made Naboo Palace hotel with a lake view, echo base, Kamino, an imperial-themed hotel where the interior is that of the death star or a Star Destroyer, Jedi Temple hotel.

[@rudyvalle9022]

The “job” feeling of constant planning and ride tracking hit us hard while we visited Disney World. I stopped everything and said to all parents in our group, “let’s let the kids guide us for a while”. Everyone had a much better experience once we put our phones down and just wandered around. The park has become a bloated mess that has defeated its own purpose.

[@toeray5864]

It came down to it just being too expensive. Me and my friends were talking about taking our kids in four or five years when they were old enough to appreciate Star Wars and the price came down but that obviously isn't happening. There's literally tens of thousands of hotel rooms within 30 miles of Disney World. People just can't pay 5k to stay two nights somewhere unless you're Qatari royals or something.

[@WastedPot]

I did not expect Sargon. Pleasant surprise.

[@natedarnell8926]

That dirty smear merchant!

[@user-xk9gw1gf8c]

He is even multitasking.

[@goldman77700]

Same, haven't watch his stuff in almost a decade but just started watching Lotus Eaters.

[@jrother]

I recently saw either an article or a tweet thread about how the parks are more interested in catering to the 'weird Disney adults' rather than families with young children. The parks would much rather cater an experience (and cost) to the childless adults who are Disney-obsessed and have loads of time, attention, and disposable income, rather than families with young children. I remember being 10 years old and just walking around the parks and having a grand time. This video is more proof that the Magic Kingdom of my childhood is not the current Magic Kingdom.

[@stevenscott2718]

So the lego collector's sets all over again?

[@skrubsandnubs2970]

That's absolutely what they're doing. Because they're already filled to the brim with tourists, they've made the park appeal to DINK's only (Duel income, no kids). Why bother trying to get families in their when you can pound on cash pinatas?

[@BWMagus]

@@skrubsandnubs2970 Because, apparently, they can't.

[@EvilDoresh]

They tried to "promote" this thing in their novels. Just about every character has visited the Starcruiser at least once.

[@deeta000]

Of course they did..

[@stevew8513]

I wish somebody could dig up the booking info for the Star Wars Starcruiser and add up the amount of money it's brought in and then compare it to the $1 billion it cost to build. I'd love to know how vast the gap is. Maybe you guys can put GoFundMe accounts up and get your audiences to donate towards a ticket there before the hotel closes in September.

[@snipedude4953]

I remember in the 80's there was a journalist strike in the UK, so on weekday morning's they showed Adam West Batman episodes, which I watched before going to school. It was awesome.

[@pauldavidartistclub6723]

Disneyland was great in the 1960’s and 60’s, DisneyWorld was brilliant in the 1970’s, and EPCOT was an excellent try at a pseudo-World’s Fair in its early period, but these parks have seen their expiration date DECADES ago.

[@nastywaygu3816]

I served two of the imagineers who helped work on Galaxies edge, and there was a lot that was changed last minute apparently. One of the sadder things was the last second removal of hidden mickeys. Apparently there are a few they couldn’t remove, but most had to be taken out

[@finalfantasy50]

a hotel where you have to go somewhere at all hours and you dont get to decide what to do? that doesnt make sense, why didnt they make it a cruise or something where your options are limited so onboard entertainment is the main attraction?

[@mariobadia4553]

Wasn't there a spy plotline thing where some lady in Cosplay harasses you and tries to get you to play along

[@finalfantasy50]

@@mariobadia4553 is it inpromptu or is it be at x location at x time? still sucks if you have something else planned and you need to pick what you miss out on

[@markmickman]

The biggest problem with galaxy's edge is that it's all concrete. Why did the most vibrant, colorful place on Earth take the most creative world and make it gray scale? Look at the movies themselves, all the bad guys are in gray scale!

[@Adam_1st_man]

Someone had to green light that. Blows my mind.

[@Thedoorway123]

An actual good idea( poorly executed) blows your mind alright

[@jasonabc]

Yeah went to Disney twice. First time was an eye opener and it for sure felt like a chore rather than a relaxing experience. I wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt so we went again knowing about the planning that was necessary and it still ended up being more of a sit around a wait in lines all day experience and was not enjoyable. Universal was a little better but overall would not do theme parks like that again.

[@keiichi8191]

Drinker and Sargon together in a video? It's like combining peanut butter and chocolate!

[@dumbguydepot304]

"Why are you cosplaying Fu Man Chu" haha, omg that was absolute gold! This roundtable is so amazing. How many great guests can you have on one show???

[@StreetPreacherr]

Disney is BRUTAL! If you just did a 'walk in' at DisneyWorld would you be able to get one maybe 1 or 2 rides over the course of an 8 hour visit?

[@Thedoorway123]

But when I go there I finish the whole park In 3 hours LIES

[@dragonknightleader1]

A long time ago, RLM (Scientist Man's Plan to Save Star Wars) recommended that Disney price gouge customers under the assumption that Star Wars fans will buy anything. Little did we realize Disney actually did what they recommended. Also Disney is unable to detect irony in RLM's messages.

[@TheSchaef47]

It's weird that they didn't have major characters at the actual Star Wars hotel but at the main park they'll have Darth Vader doing the Fortnite dance with a bevy of stormtroopers in front of Sleeping Beauty's castle

[@IvanGarcia-cx5jm]

The mood that I have seen around after the Galactic Starcruiser closed seems like the Death Star being blown to pieces by the rebels. But like in the end of Episode 4 of Star Wars, the emperor is still on the throne.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Damn, this an all star panel right here.

[@toh6261]

Plus Jeremy

[@MrMacavity]

The image I get in my head after hearing this news is like the kid from Simpsons going "HA HA!" and pointing

[@namugriff]

One thing that I found daft with it, that it has a fixed ending, so it doesn't matter what side you choose, Rey always wins at the end. If they did a multi ending story, so you could have the First Order win with Rey being killed or captured. Then if you reduced to cost to say about £2000 for the 2 nights and have all inclusive as well as alcohol, then it could have been a better experience. Make it non cannon as well, so you can allow for the different endings. Then you could also each year switch to the different Star Wars eras, each with it's own multi ended storyline. Just think if they did that, how much better it would have been. Even swapping between the different trilogies every 4 months.

[@TheBoshman95]

Wow! What a stacked episode! Heel, Carl, Rags, Nerdotic... Wow!

[@Linus8472]

This segment was literally a moving Calvin Candie meme moment, and I loved every second of it! 😂😂 🍻🍻

[@m0nk3yl0v3r]

Who could have possibly predicted building a hotel based on Star Wars, that doesnt look like Star Wars and costs $6000 a night would be a failure... Im shocked.

[@ChiefCrewin]

Good god how did I miss this live...it's basically every content creator I give a shit about!

[@unformedeight]

"Why would a season of Mandalorian need writers?" Well obviously they have to pretend they put some effort into it

[@zacharyfett2491]

The rooms were tiny and the food was cafeteria food. Even if you have fun running around pushing buttons, the rest of it doesn’t measure up.

[@SerDiesel90]

Brady bunch vibes. "Heres the story, of a man named Drinker..."

[@John-po9vg]

Love that Sargon is painting warhammer during this stream

[@death-king1834]

Imagine making a Star Wars themed hotel, and instead of basing it on the movies that everyone loves and has stood the test of time for decades, you base it instead off the trilogy that almost everyone hates and more or less helped kill off the brand as a merchandising juggernaut. I've made this comparison before, but this really would be like if Universal decided to make a Legend of Zelda or Super Mario themed hotel, and instead of basing it around Nintendo's games, they instead base it around the Philips CDI ones. You deserve failure at that point.

[@evilemperorzurg9615]

StarWars is like the pet you had for 17 years. It’s old, it’s fur is matted, and it’s in pain with every step it takes. If you truly love it you will take it behind the barn and have it watch the field while you chamber a round.

[@chasehedges6775]

Pretty sad analogy, really

[@chasehedges6775]

“Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.”

[@HellbirdIV]

I feel like there's a two-fold problem with Galactic Starcruiser. First, and most obvious, is the price. Ain't no hardcore Star Wars fan spending 6000 buckazoids a night for that 'experience'. People who have that kind of money don't go to Star Wars cosplay resorts. Who is going to bring their kids - y'know, the target audience for Disney Star Wars - at that kind of price? Secondly, the less obvious, is that immersion is a hard thing to do. The concept of a Star Wars themed hotel with the staff in costume and in-character is.. good, actually. It's the sort of thing I would enjoy, at a reasonable price - but trying to make it an 'experience' with some Rebellion story that you're encouraged to participate in, that's... a bit harder. Immersion is hard, anyone who's even done regular LARPing knows how weird and difficult it can be to really feel in-character, and that's when you're with your friends, or at least friends-of-friends. Doing it in an expensive resort with people you don't know - who you know are just there becasue they're paid to do it - is a lot to ask of the average Star Wars fan. You can't manufacture the kind of comfortable, playful atmosphere required of a LARP or Renaissance Fair with a corporate hand. It's just going to feel uncomfortable and forced, and nobody has a good time. Nobody pays for that experience twice, and most won't pay for it once. Especially at 6000 bucks a head.

[@thatperformer3879]

This hotel was designed by the same people behind “15 minute cities”, it’s the only explanation for the hotel being as terribly uncomfortable as possible.

[@jordanshilander7402]

We need you guys to write a movie for "Fanboys 2, the Quest to Save Star Wars" and at the end, someone who looks like Darth Kennedy is kicked down a reactor shaft or something. Im sure there are people who would pay to see it three or four times in theaters.

[@Kernwadi]

Now, lets say, hypothetically, that somebody once told me that the world would proceed to roll me, and made the claim that I was not, the smartest tool in the shed. Which would lead us to look at the facts and see that she was looking kind of dumb, due to the fact that she had placed her finger and her thumb, in the shape of the letter L, located on her forehead. This would mean that the years would start coming, and logically wont stop coming, that I was, hypothetically, fed to the rules, which would proceed with me hitting the ground running. Which didn’t make sense, to live for fun, in a way that your brain gets smart, yet your head gets dumb, seeing as there’s so much to do, and so much to see, so now I must pose the question, what is wrong with taking the backseat? This is due to the fact that you’ll never know if you don’t go, nor you will shine if you don’t glow. For you see, you are, at this moment, an All-Star, so get your game on, and proceed to go play, indeed, you’re an All-Star, get the show on, which would entitled you to get paid. That would mean that all that glitters, is indeed gold, and that only shooting stars, can participate in the process of breaking the mold.

[@Kernwadi]

Yes.

[@jamalisujang2712]

Did you ran this through a bot? 😂😂😂

[@Kernwadi]

@@jamalisujang2712 No, God told me these words.

[@othertalk3313]

@@Kernwadi Hey now. - God

[@Kernwadi]

@@othertalk3313 Maybe he was drunk, it happens.

[@LprogressivesANDliberals]

Love Sargon always. Sigh we’re all getting older, be safe everyone. “Win this culture war we must” - Yoda 💪🏽💯

[@superdave8248]

Younger we are not. Safe, everyone be. Culture war, win we must.

[@Moonmonkian]

Lotus Eaters team are excellent.

[@tbmike23]

The idea was broken from the start. If it had been a star wars village and regular guests could've been costumed like extras in a film, even given a chance to actually be in one of their new films, and this was one level of the experience for the tiny niche, that could afford it that could've worked.

[@bvdemier1]

Correct me if i am wrong, but wasn't one of the things the Star Cruiser hotel did was because of immersion, not having any outdoor-windows in the rooms? They sold this by saying complete immersion. The problem with this is that we as human being kinda need natural light. Not having access to natural light makes us more depressed and is kind of unhealthy. There is a reason we invented windows with glass and why prisons have a time for prisoners to be outside.

[@AdamSmith-kq6ys]

Well, generally yes, however, some American universities are trying to get approval for windowless ~~cattle pens~~ dormitories. They're meeting all of the objections you have outlined and more, however.

[@mariobadia4553]

Didn't they have a thing where some lady in Cosplay would harass you it with the galactic starcruiser shity storyline

[@jongreen9171]

True. In the UK we introduced a window tax on the basis that richer people have larger houses and therefore more windows and they can afford more in tax. As a result, the owners boarded up their windows causing health problems for many people for years. They soon replaced this with income tax, which we are still trying to avoid paying.