California's laws are crazy anyway. Ticketing someone for having a stock car exhaust should be grounds to sue.
@General_M23 күн бұрын
Crackles and pops are obnoxious, they shouldn’t be part of the stock experience.
@Localtraveler237623 күн бұрын
@@General_Mit’s legal. Stop being a Karen.
@General_M23 күн бұрын
@@Localtraveler2376 stop being a child
@Localtraveler237623 күн бұрын
@@General_M haha great comeback 🤡 if having fun and living a little mean being a child then call me a child. Are you even American? Then mind your own business. The laws here have absolutely nothing to do with you.
@theredsalmon61223 күн бұрын
commiefornia run by gavin newscum, what do you expect
@no-one-kc3yd23 күн бұрын
The gear shifts are so smooth man Love it.
@PaulJohnson-r8x16 күн бұрын
The changes made for this model year are very subtle, most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. I can’t believe you said you wouldn’t recommend this car for track use in the segment, you’re the only reviewer I’ve ever heard say that.
@Eddie-loves-cars22 күн бұрын
Love the car and the quality of the video. Thanks for another great video and review.
@커피맛맥주-i2i23 күн бұрын
Nice and thanks for the video! I push the button on the sidebreak when lifting it up, but my friend gave me a chuckle and said I was doing it wrong lol Well, the only difference I think is the +1 masculinity on each 'drag noise' you hear. I am glad Topher and I have the same method lol
@randomworld46629 сағат бұрын
the colour or this is very beautiful and its beautiful car
@TheUnreadableUser23 күн бұрын
The reason maybe why you think they toned it down is because the Elantra N DCT has quite a bit more pops and burbles, which used to be backwards with the Veloster N, as the manual was louder than the DCT. This car is probably THE definition of bang for your buck. This is $10,000 less than a Civic Type R and has better creature comforts and more importantly, a better exhaust.
@Thedrizzlestick49522 күн бұрын
I believe the type r should probably hold its value more than the N in the long run though if you care for that
@TheUnreadableUser22 күн бұрын
@@Thedrizzlestick495 you're right
@rekt_n_line23 күн бұрын
My Sonata N-Line was definitely one of the most fun cars I've owned. Hyundai gets a lot of hate, but props to them for making cars like this still. I thought about an Elantra N, but it's just a tad small for my liking. That said, I really hope they end up putting the 2.5T in the Elantra N. Not a huge aftermarket for the 2.5T, but it's a torquey motor. And with a piggyback tune and bolt-ons my Sonata was making pretty decent power.
@brandonkellum788223 күн бұрын
I just got a 25 manual EN a month ago. I have zero real complaints at this point. Really versatile car.
@prodigyfreeman393522 күн бұрын
what is the mileage you getting? and was it msrp or under or over? I'm considering this car. Your insight will help
@brandonkellum788222 күн бұрын
@@prodigyfreeman3935 31mpg average. I leased for 3 years at $1,000 under MSRP. I tend to not keep cars for too long so the lease made sense. I’d suggest looking at your local Hyundai dealer’s service center reviews and dealer reviews to see where’s the best location to buy/service at. The Elantra N Reddit has a ton of good info, pics, and whatnot as well. If I were purchasing a car for the long term I’d go another route, but it just depends on what you’re wanting. If you have any other questions just lmk and I’ll try to help.
@jonttran109222 күн бұрын
You got a 25 model but It’s still 2024?
@bkellum8921 күн бұрын
@@jonttran1092 that's how car years work. 25s come out in 24.
@willhart152322 күн бұрын
I had a 21' VN DCT in Performance blue with a resonator delete and a catted DP and the sound was GLORIOUS. First car I've ever bought brand new, and would absolutely recommend N cars
@karmahunden22 күн бұрын
why did you sell?
@willhart152322 күн бұрын
@@karmahunden ihad a few issues with Hyundai's warranty and there were a few recalls that worried me about long term ownership. I upgraded to a 2020 M340I, much faster, nicer interior, and more room (GF and I have a kid on the way).
@noahpike82742 күн бұрын
@@willhart1523gl working on it. Id say to each their own. For the price and tangibillity these cars are great...i have a video of me pullling the engine in sub 2 hours with no lift in sandals 😂😂😂🤣
@velocityvibezzz22 күн бұрын
My favorite car. Thanks for sharing this with us!
@r3games198523 күн бұрын
This is the color I picked 2025. Just waiting for my dealer order to come in. I think I've seen every video on this car painfully waiting.
@AntonioGarcia-ci9ot23 күн бұрын
On the same boat lol. Waiting on my manual performance blue N to arrive. Should be arriving in December 🤞🏽
@startrader950323 күн бұрын
Lil Topher x Big Topher handbrake turn competition when?
@rforracemode584623 күн бұрын
I feel like the dct gets more pops and burbles, really love the new look of this thing
@TopherDrives23 күн бұрын
I think the pre facelift car had more. TheTopher and I agreed that this new ‘24 seemed a bit toned down
@1cecreampize19723 күн бұрын
Huh I heard manual have more pops. I have dct
@IsaacPoopsAlot23 күн бұрын
@@1cecreampize197 yeah i think that was true for the pre-facelift
@arejayy22 күн бұрын
@@TopherDrives the facelift is definitely toned down. I've confirmed it side by side with my two friends. I've got a 23 and they both have 24s
@jonttran109222 күн бұрын
@@arejayy post up a clip.. maybe the 23 just has more miles and the exhaust worn in?
@NDEEZMiata23 күн бұрын
When/if the time comes to trade in my ND2 for something more practical (growing family), this is at the top of my list. Everything else is way too expensive and not necessarily more fun. I’m over the super fast super capable car phase, I want something fun to drive on the street at reasonable speeds and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg to daily drive.
@jakep51923 күн бұрын
I had the 2022 DCT version of the N for about a year and it was way louder than the new one. They must have toned it back because of California. Such a fun car to throw into corners!
@r3games198523 күн бұрын
"Way louder" I doubt it. I just took the 2025 out for a test drive and it sounded the same to me.
@arejayy22 күн бұрын
@@r3games198522 and 23 definitely louder than the facelift models. Me and my two friends have confirmed it side by side
@mharro8822 күн бұрын
@@r3games1985it's not
@lazoreyeshootingpigz23 күн бұрын
Dude you’re awesome. I research the mustand ecoboost, you upload, civic SI, same thing and now im looking into Elantra N and this shows on my feed! 😂 which ones the favorite out of those 3?
@VinceFung23 күн бұрын
i personally think these look great especially for the price
@jonttran109222 күн бұрын
Whilst civic type R is marginally the better car overall, no way it’s worth the price difference .. Elantra N like buying a supreme pizza for $20 and type R is an extra anchovy you pay $30
@noahpike82742 күн бұрын
Marginally is key. With very little effort these cars outclass many...inluding the ctr. Which i love the ctr but i hate the bodystyle, sound of the engine, weight.... the fk8 was my favorite. That and the fn2 which was the fastest.
@nsb_drum23 күн бұрын
Glad to see you discuss elbow comfort lol. I rented a ‘25 BMW X5 (which I absolutely loved) and put about 2500 miles on it. I could not find a comfy spot for my elbow and it bothered much more than I could have imagined.
@sayurasem23 күн бұрын
I’m new here, I just recently follow tedwards, the topher, and this channel. One thing I realized you guys have the same driving/ passing style. From what I’ve observed you don’t really like driving on the left lane on the highway. It seems that you always go 80ish mph cruising speed on second to left lane, creep to the next car up, then zigzag to pass and back to second lane. I just wanted to say its very different from where I drive.
@andynguyen391323 күн бұрын
I daily a Performance Blue VN PP 6MT with a resonator delete, the sounds are even better. It turns heads everywhere it goes. N cars are definitely the most bang for buck. Replace stock intake and get a bigger turbo inlet pipe for even more noise. My next project will be replacing the downpipe for the ultimate noise.
@jonttran109222 күн бұрын
Does resonator delete add any performance? Or just more raspy sounds? I always liked deeper sounds not more raspy
@andynguyen391322 күн бұрын
@@jonttran1092 It just opens up the noise a bit more. If you want more performance, downpipe and intake
@terrancemoore49622 күн бұрын
With the E-brake. Hold the button and pull it up. I haven't used one in a long time since my 2006 Acura TSX. My 2019 Honda Civic Si have (of course) an electronic one.
@jamesharless610323 күн бұрын
Aye keep up the vids bro!
@jamesj54696 күн бұрын
Hot hatch's are the daily driver move
@itsdaejon4 күн бұрын
Not giving this the lightbar is a CRIME 😭
@slocarfr22 күн бұрын
you should do a roadtrip with emily in this one, but with N mode on all the way
@salwilk55823 күн бұрын
N mode = no more traffic issues
@Ok_Mountain_869823 күн бұрын
The 6 speed is definitely the way to go with this car. I'm sure the DCT is great but it's so hard to find a true 6MT sports car these days that I think anyone who has the option should take it.
@r3games198523 күн бұрын
This car was developed around the DCT. It's fantastic.
@Specialist723 күн бұрын
The 6MT is really nice but the DCT shines in long drives/roadtrips with the 2 extra gear, at 75mph you're just under 2K rpm and at 85mph you're slightly above 2K rpm so its pretty quiet and you can get to your destination faster by just cruising and definitely good on gas despite the small tank.
@Zath8823 күн бұрын
People seem to forget just because the car has a manual doesn’t mean its a GOOD manual. BMW for sure is known to have an average or below average experience vs something like a Civic Type R or Si
@jonttran109222 күн бұрын
Not sure dct is right for a daily either.. traffic creep inching away just wears out the dct clutches. They might not fail in 5 years but it will catch up with you.. manual by far more robust transmission and likes power mods better as well
@justinbecker477212 күн бұрын
@@jonttran1092that's some incredibly slow traffic if you're slipping all the time in 1st
@claywanstrath220413 сағат бұрын
Wild the carplay isn't wireless on this model when the base Elantras have it
@ak211223 күн бұрын
re: handbrake - grip and rip. no button. I want to hear that shit.
@TopherDrives23 күн бұрын
grip and rip 😭 love it
@Glideslopes23 күн бұрын
Nice review.
@SlyLikesSpace22 күн бұрын
cilantro end
@DiplomatGaming23 күн бұрын
I owned a 2022 EN 6-speed MT. Here are things to keep in mind: * Very jerky and hard to shift smoothly when the AC is on for the first ten minutes. * Takes a while for the engine and tires to warm up. * The car is very skittish and tail happy in the rain, similar to a rear-wheel drive car. * Very thirsty engine and small fuel range. * The seats are very uncomfortable and results in lower back pain after one hour drive. * The pedals are not properly spaced for heel-toe downshifts. * Occasional wheel-hop when shifting from 1st-2nd gear. * The shifter is very rubbery. * The ride quality is very stiff in “N” mode. * No sunroof in the MT, only in the AT which makes no sense.
@vliwhy23 күн бұрын
This is really gold for people who are considering EN
@LogoYt-gx9uf23 күн бұрын
Most these complaints yes are good to talk about but all can be solved by getting the DCT version
@LogoYt-gx9uf23 күн бұрын
Most these complaints yes are good to talk about but all can be solved by getting the DCT version
@rogercvc676823 күн бұрын
Sunroofs should only be for people who specifically order them.
@NaijaBull23 күн бұрын
Great points!
@mhassounehКүн бұрын
My decision whether to hold the parking brake button while engaging it or not depends on my mood.. I like to keep my options open 😅
@terrancemoore49623 күн бұрын
Another reviewer said the same thing in reference to the muffler loudness. I think they put more insulation in the 2024.
@jonttran109222 күн бұрын
Prob just tuned out the pops
@larphraulen23 күн бұрын
From a purely shifting experience, would you rather take the Si (with its rev hang) or the N (with its somewhat sloppy shifter)? Also, any cold transmission grinds?
@noahpike82742 күн бұрын
They both have rev hang and rev matching. Different levels of revmatching too which is adjustable.
@jasonmcmaster393923 күн бұрын
Nice when someone is mature about shifting gears and not trying to snap the stick off like a goon lol...prob a fun little car!
@TerosDrives23 күн бұрын
30:00 topherrr you forgot the welcome chime, and this time it's quite a shame cause it has a cool N exclusive animation
@dustytanco691723 күн бұрын
I always hold the botton when engaging the hand brake
@Sonic_100023 күн бұрын
For 3 grand more this completely makes the Si obsolete.
@Veyronp8723 күн бұрын
one of the best performance bargains on the market!
@devn381323 күн бұрын
Now these cars are 37k. I got my dct new for $33,500 usd.
@MrDeathSmack22 күн бұрын
Was doing the ripping but then, I was told by mechanic that the wire in hand brake becomes loose very fast that way. So pressing and pulling 😂
@hungo772023 күн бұрын
Still an amazing car from Huyndai
@kitrocks805816 күн бұрын
Yep, they left nothing off the table except quality
@jonttran109222 күн бұрын
The dct does not pull any harder than the manual, just shifts quicker and maintains boost through gear changes.. manual car drops its boost as you hit the clutch and needs to spool up boost again going into next gear. DCT quicker against stop watch but don’t pull any harder when on boost just more consistent in its application of boost
@justinbecker477212 күн бұрын
Because it has more gears, it stays in the power band better as well.
@noahpike82742 күн бұрын
Manual makes more whp dct robs 10 percent of the power to the wheels
@justinbecker47722 күн бұрын
@@noahpike8274 source?
@jonttran109222 күн бұрын
For this car the manual is the better option. DCT is not great for daily driving to heat up the clutch packs in traffic inch g forward.. it may not fail now but down the track they will give up the ghost on you. Plus manual transmission more robust and and handle more power mods
@anthonyhardison339814 күн бұрын
Does this vehicle have a anti-theft alarm system?
@justinbecker477212 күн бұрын
This car is not susceptible to the kia Bois.
@ricktrue844123 күн бұрын
Drop the hood so it closes on its own. Don't partially latch it and then force it down by pushing on it.
@TopherDrives23 күн бұрын
I’ve started doing it that way because numerous people yelled at me for slamming/dropping it. Can’t please everyone!
@lukewalker105123 күн бұрын
@@TopherDrives Dropping it from 6 inches is better for it than pushing down on the hood which can bend the hood.
@scytherind892823 күн бұрын
I want one of these so badly but laws over here in Germany have made them a financial nightmare. Might not even be road legal because of emissions, crazy high insurance(which is normal for an 'exotic' car, I know), and with Import fees and everything I'm already scratching 35k+.
@SamLed111123 күн бұрын
Reliability wise how does this Hyundai 4 popper fair? Many Kia/Hyundai 4 cylinder power plants have had major premature engine failure issues. Just curious.
@TopherDrives23 күн бұрын
I haven’t heard any horror stories about N cars! Some owners may chime in here as the day goes on
@lukewalker105123 күн бұрын
Shhhh...guys like Topher and his surrogates are instructed not to talk about that. Antithetical to getting free cars for reviews.
@TopherDrives23 күн бұрын
Not true at all. I have 0 reason to cover up reliability issues. I just haven’t heard any about N cars. Car Confections fully publicized their Santa Fe transmission failure and they still get Hyundai cars to test 🤷🏻♂️.
@SamLed111123 күн бұрын
@@TopherDrives never thought you would cover up engine issues. I have just heard horror stories about the KIA/Hyundai 4 cylinder engines after a year or two of ownership. Was not sure if it also concerned the Elantra N. Love your channel brother. Thank you from Santa Barbara, CA .
@boogiedownkid546523 күн бұрын
The Car Care Nut reviewed the Elantra. He discusses both the base and N engines and he made clear that they are completely different 4 cylinder engines. In fact, he called the N engine a masterpiece and he knows his stuff.
@shamalabadingdong23 күн бұрын
Stock internals are good for 500whp. Most common limit right now is fueling, so I see a lot of meth + stock turbo setups that are faster than big turbo with no meth. Basically, without meth stock turbo is around 350whp. With meth 400whp. Internals can take more, seen 450+whp on big turbo setups with good fueling. Stock internals are good. Dct tq no tcu tune maxes out on an aggressive stock turbo tune, but tcu tunes are right around the corner. Stock manual transmission is good for 400whp. These numbers are all for cars that are perfectly reliable to abuse on track and drive hard daily.
@MDZane-YT23 күн бұрын
RE: I pull the parking brake up while pushing in the button.
@giaphutran542518 күн бұрын
Is it better than civic typeR???
@justinbecker477212 күн бұрын
No.
@youcangetsum68716 күн бұрын
No but fl5 definitely isn’t better for 60k
@forcedhaircut23 күн бұрын
great car to own unless you live in cali
@LogoYt-gx9uf23 күн бұрын
Elantra N can take around 500whp before having to do some engine work. But if you want a car with 500whp a fwd car is not the move lol once you at 400whp it’s sketchy af couldn’t imagine 500whp
@tigerhawk8423 күн бұрын
12:09 it seems like the transmission is the weakpoint, not the engine. You swap to some better injectors and slap a tune in and you are easily in mid 300s, but the manual is a little sketchy, the DCT seems to take the power better, but any more than that and the transmissions go according to forums and other people who have done it.
@shamalabadingdong23 күн бұрын
Lmfao what kind of random non sense. You hit the limits of the dct at around the limit of the stock turbo, so an aggressive tune or meth (much more common on the manual ENs). Stock manual transmission is more than fine with 400whp setups (basically meth and tune). The manual is undoubtedly the better trans for making big power, although the dct is considerably faster at the same power. Ndriverkg had a dct Elantra N on meth that got rear ended, and switched to a manual transmission EN. Basically all of our top records have been set with manual transmissions.
@mharro8822 күн бұрын
Transmission? It's the best point
@EphraimAyeni23 күн бұрын
my only issue with this is that Hyundai refuses to put a D steering wheel in the Elantra, but has the audacity to put it in the Kia, like it makes me upset every time I have to see a Kia get the D steering wheel treatment.
@jayczyzyk970719 күн бұрын
Its tge same poor reliability either way
@timw208323 күн бұрын
I love my GRC but glad Hyundai has an affordable option for enthusiasts. I wasn't a fan of the pops and burbles
@mharro8822 күн бұрын
Those buckets are horrible compared to the comfort seats we get in Australia
@grichl8823 күн бұрын
Why does it seem like only Toyota includes a spare?
@TopherDrives23 күн бұрын
Companies should learn from Toyota. lol
@LogoYt-gx9uf23 күн бұрын
I’m sure the Elantra N doesn’t have one to save on weight which is important bc they did build this car to be able to handle turns very well. Like the new Kia k4 has a spare tire and my old Kia k5 had a spare as well
@grichl8823 күн бұрын
@@LogoYt-gx9uf ah, very good point!
@mharro8822 күн бұрын
My Elantra N includes a spare here in Australia
@EN-sw8es13 күн бұрын
500whp stock internals
@jodan298520 күн бұрын
Do you ever discuss your Lexus Gs anymore/make videos? Just wondering bc I love it.
@TopherDrives20 күн бұрын
yes! there will be news regarding that car coming soon
@jaybarnish775 күн бұрын
Not having a spare tire while having low profile tires it stupid for a daily driver.
@Josegarcia-js5zw23 күн бұрын
Can you drive the 2018 ford explorer plss and i sub
@tomrichardson9523 күн бұрын
lol he’s not gonna do it for 1 subscriber. Especially since it means he has to drive a crappy ford explorer
@jayczyzyk970722 күн бұрын
on thye track r wins street n wins
@rogercvc676823 күн бұрын
Seems like a lot of road noise.
@lukewalker105123 күн бұрын
Difference between a Honda and Hyundai? Things like unacceptable wind noise because Hyundai couldn't get the window/door alignment correct aka quality control...or even more nefarious, the window/door interface is poorly designed and therefore hypersensitive to adjustment and lots of owners stuck with it. PS. before anybody buys one, make sure you consult the internet forums of owners and see whether living with one is worth it aka quality and reliability. Many for example will opt for spending $3K less for a Honda Civic Si, biting the bullet on lower power and if you must have more power, tune it.
@TopherDrives23 күн бұрын
The Civic Si I just spent a few days in did feel substantially nicer (build quality wise). I really do love Hyundai’s effort to build these fun cars though.
@rhoma45923 күн бұрын
Mostly agree, but my ‘25 Si at 1.5k miles has creaks in the dashboard/rear deck that my ‘13 Elantra didn’t have at 130k miles. Kinda disappointing
@f8widescat39223 күн бұрын
I bought a 24 manual Elantra N and have no issues with that, maybe some small QC issue that slipped through, nothing other manufacturers don’t do
@LogoYt-gx9uf23 күн бұрын
Living with this car is very easy seats are very comfortable after broken in could be a bit of an issue if you a big boy but no complaints for a car that is 34k and is as good as it is. very amazing car
@dominicg245623 күн бұрын
Yeah I've owned my Elantra N for months and not only have I never experienced these issues but I've never even heard of them. My Civic had way more QC issues than my Elantra N.
@braisedtoast900223 күн бұрын
I wish they made a miata competitor. I can't do fwd. It's just too gay.
@Sam-w5v2 күн бұрын
It's ok, I'll support you regardless of who you love ❤