Driving On The Highest Road in America - This Happened to Our New Jeep Wrangler!

[@kingpin3919]

As always i love your videos and how you're so open and honest. Appreciate the hard work. Keep it up fellas!

[@Qp0int]

kingpin3919 got to be careful with influencers

[@philllsxga.7737]

Wait One minute!! A Jeep broke?!?! Noooo way!!!! Jeep's are JUNK!!

[@johnschmalbach8243]

Really? Jeep crapped the bed then, instead of saying "yep this Jeep crapped the bed BUT let me show you video of how cool this thing looked off road in slow mo" And that's not even addressing how they asked Jeep what "trail rated" meant with the Renegade (which is 100% Fiat under the hood btw) and the rep refused to answer. There is a difference between an influencer and a review. Just look at every other Nation that reviews Jeeps, Aussies in particular. Remove the "USA!!!" From a USA born review? Oh the view is very different. "Just over 2 weeks"... For service bulletins? Aka stuff they already know how to fix and don't have to diagnose themselves? The difference between a critical review and an influencer.

[@philllsxga.7737]

@@johnschmalbach8243 WOW man you hit the nail on the head!!! Jeep's are junk!! I really do NOT understand this Jeep Trend!! I off road my Chevy trucks a lot!! And they take me 200,000 plus miles with JUST routine maintenance!! You're like me, you see right through the BS!! I don't care what's on paper! I don't care how good a brand new vehicle can go off road! Can it do it for 6 to 10 year's, over 200,000 miles and be a good daily driver?!????? My Chevy's have been!!!

[@ronlheureux7623]

@@johnschmalbach8243 Some people prefer infomercials to actual, straight from the hip reviews. This was a puff piece. Two freaking weeks?! If that were your only daily driver, damn. Tommy has a multitude of driving choices for two weeks. Nothing against Tommy, but he needs to learn about indignation from the seasoned crowd at TFL.

[@plainlybasic2300]

Read the title about an issue with a Jeep, and still don't understand how anyone could be surprised. Especially now that it's a Fiat.

[@Lybra19JTD]

It is Fiat long time. since 2014 officially

[@michelt4390]

And you load it with all bunch of electronic devices and gadget... what could possibly go wrong?

[@magnacartasamadams8189]

I predict fire in the future

[@gabrielback5615]

I don't understand why you keep following jeep articles , you don't like them, have nothing but negative comments, leave already and follow your precious chevy pages. You add nothing valuable to the conversation.

[@IamJay02]

@@gabrielback5615 GM and Fiat Chrysler are both shit in terms of quality

[@jamesn.627]

I think I dodged a bullet. I was in the market for either a rubicon or a trd pro. Went with the Toyota and I don’t regret it.

[@alicet324]

same!!

[@jacksonmckinney1557]

James N. Smart purchase

[@Coolahan3]

You take a risk buying any new vehicle in its first year of production... that said, my 2012 3.6L (first year of that motor for the JK) Wrangler has been bullet proof. I’d much rather own a Jeep than a Toyota, but I’ve had 5 of them and they’ve been nothing but phenomenal! Good luck with your Yotas!

[@alicet324]

John Coolahan no worries. To each to their own! When my Toyota is still running in 13+ years let me know how Jeep is doing !

[@Coolahan3]

alicet324 hmmmm, how old is my 2000 TJ? Still running like a champ! Theoretical durability trash talk is fun :). I buy a Jeep for its ability to wheel... but I sure do see a lot of CJs and YJs out there. Jeeps are simple, it’s that simplicity that keeps them on the road (easy to fix if needed).

[@danieljones3683]

Not surprised. I am an auto technician for a rental car company. Our location has a lot of FCA products in the fleet and they are not reliable. It's a shame they make some interesting and nice looking vehicles but the reliability is not there. You probably would have been better with the 3.6 it actually is a decent engine.

[@EGGINFOOLS]

@Rick James5678 It's actually in the process of getting replaced now.

[@emanuelguzman-garcia3567]

Daniel Jones 3.6 is still an fca engine ?! or how does that work ?!

[@jamesaandf]

Emanuel Guzman-Garcia the 3.6 was under development during the DC days. It’s a good engine and MB has their own take of the basic engine.

[@danieljones3683]

@@emanuelguzman-garcia3567 the 3.6 is an older design before Fiat

[@ThePyleDriver]

It would be interesting to hear what makes have the fewest issues given your experience...

[@mv5596]

“Jeep” should watch this video, because Wranglers aren’t cheap!

[@LG-tw5vm]

Exactly. I'd pay about $100 dollars for a new Jeep Wrangler. Anything beyond $100 wouldn't be worth it to me. Piece of junk!! No thank you.

[@rajuusa1983]

L G entire FCA junk

[@hankhill5622]

Yeah 45,000 dollars is too much for a Jeep in my opinion. And if there going to have these problems it’s gonna do nothing but hurt FCA.

[@tonyalba5561]

Go buy yourself a good ZJ or XJ jeep and have fun ! 😎

[@annallen5838]

I wouldn't have bought that engine ..

[@klmarsh60N]

And this is why new Toyota's using a design from ten years ago still sell.

[@Bryan-Hensley]

If Toyota is the most reliable vehicle made today, I'll stay with older model stuff. My Toyota was JUNK

[@samjohnson9894]

@Kevin Marsh - And that's STILL too new to bear real, mechanical capability.

[@jeffsvolta1221]

Exactly why I traded my 2019 RAM with Etorque for a 2019 tundra.

[@flight2k5]

Bryan Hensley no it wasn’t

[@Airman..]

The alternator is made by Denso USA that doesn't change the junky manufacturing materials/techniques by Chrysler

[@poetwp975]

Classic fiat Chrysler. That’s disappointing, good thing there were no dangerous situations happen because of the breakdown. That must have been tense being on those narrow mountain roads.

[@aldimore]

Better that then crawling rocks in Moab

[@RocHopn]

Its manufacturing. Every car company products have issues. It's not just FCA. So this is classic modern garbage. To much crap to go wrong in these new cars.

[@roberts.688]

A guy I work with just had his ram ecodiesel burn to the ground after the recall fix total junk

[@dwiedmaier]

Should take a look on the euroncap review on this

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

@@roberts.688 blame the epa for that. Before the fix it was working fine

[@danbasham9207]

A friend of mine calls his sons Rubicon the *repairacon*

[@andrei1971]

Dan Basham Must be a Decepticon too

[@arnellblaster]

This is the exactly the stuff I like to see. Performance is one thing, dependability is another. The combination of both is what truly shows a vehicles value. Keep up the great work!

[@xplorefurther]

Fixed on paper only. Did you attempt to climb the hill and drive under high altitude again? I want to see if the actual problem was truly addressed.

[@dirf554]

Dito let’s see another attempt at climbing that mountain vote this comment up people!!!

[@HKSUZI311]

I made the same trip in a 2019 Rubicon on 8/26. The rubicon did great and with its short wheelbase was easy to maneuver around the switchbacks. It was a v6.

[@CDub-np1cc]

2 weeks to get it fixed! You're travelling on the well traveled road to FCA Quality Hell......

[@sheashay17]

CDub 1962 wow! I’m honestly shocked... when my Honda airbags got recalled they had me in and out of the shop in like 6 hours... same day... and they changed my oil. Love the Jeeps but at least for now I’ll pass...

[@CaptainRudy4021]

The long time was likely due to the paint and the warranty claim. Automotive paint isn't like spray paint where you can just spray it and it's ready. You might have to spend a day or two just in prep work and just as long to let it dry and cure. And dealerships don't make warranty claims a priority since it won't be making them any money and the techs don't get paid as much to do warranty work.

[@CDub-np1cc]

@@CaptainRudy4021 makes sense. Fortunately I've not had to take my '16 4runner in for any repairs.....

[@uweschroeder]

Better than their Tesla - how long did that take? 6 weeks? 2 months?

[@ajspang4291]

Yup iam a victim of that disaster. Your absolutely right. I've already told them to sell the rebel ASAP!

[@01mhtv]

New fca engine broke Insert surprised pikachu face

[@ea1070]

Hahaha 🤣🤣👌

[@willb3018]

Dov'è Tony quando hai bisogno di lui? 🤪

[@johnhart5102]

It's an FCA product. Enough said about the build quality.

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

Yet the Rebel is still working fine

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

@@banana82728 still an FCA product. I bet the issue is probably that hybrid system for that specific engine. It probably works better on the 5.7

[@nature10879]

Yep

[@Axtec36]

Yep Fiate Chrysler Association

[@MemphisMojo15s]

@@trenton.tchannel1810 well, even though I'm not a FCA fan, I give credit where it's due and the Hemi deserves great appreciation. I'm not a total hater like some people 😊

[@rkalla]

No f'ing way a normal dealer is going to repaint body work "under warranty" My 2017 Chrysler 300, with 3,100 miles on it had the paint flaking off the white seats (2018+ models went to better leather but 2017 white interior was painted leather) Dealer said they would replace leather no problem - ordered the part then called me in to collect the car and told me I would have to pay out of pocket for the work. I argued it was insane to think an 8 month old car with 3100 miles would have the leather falling apart and they even agreed and stood their ground that I could either pay $1300 out of pocket to replace the seat cover or take a hike. I took a hike - I'm still mad about that. Airpark Chrysler Jeep Dodge was the dealer in Scottsdale.

[@toddbrown2574]

My local FCA dealer replaced my grand Cherokee hood no money out of pocket 2017 with 40,000 miles. Paint has warranty up to 100k miles

[@Michael-pq6dn]

The yellowing on the JL white painted grill is a longstanding issue

[@jmullins1775]

They will if they know it's for youtube

[@tonyalba5561]

You should buy an older XJ or ZJ jeep because they have a lot of room and they run forever ! 😎👍

[@Terruhcutta]

That dealership is shady

[@northerntoyota7584]

Things like this were common over the 4 years I owned my ram sport, the 4 years I've owned my 4runner I haven't been to the dealer for one single issue. Oil changes only. It may be old school but it never gives me any grief

[@Libertarian_Neighbor]

NORTHERN Toyota The same for me. I’m 4 years in on my 4Runner too. I’ve always owned reliable cars/trucks since my first GM died at 95k miles.

[@tallll70]

Things like this weren't in Ram 4 ears ago, maybe you've had some other issues, i'm glad i didn't

[@volvo09]

@@PoliceSwat I was watching a video of someoen with a 19 ram not too long ago that was stuck in a parking lot because the transmission / range switch wasn't working. regardless of brand I'd be soooo aggrivated if some fancy new electronic thing kept me stranded somewhere, when I could have just put the damn thing in gear with a cable, or left it in a single gear and limped home / somewhere safe.

[@paulj9821]

@@volvo09 I have had 1 zero issues in the last 4 years with my jeep that required me to visit the dealer.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

My 2018 4Runner limited was one of the biggest POS'S I've ever owned. It had nothing but issues!

[@mrchevy1018]

You should take it back to the top of the Mountain and try to recreate the same issue.

[@robb1165]

The road is now closed for the winter. A friend lived near there, at that altitude they only get about three months of "summer".

[@jeepercreepers54]

You should take it back to the top of the mountain and drive it off the steepest slope you can find.

[@benporter395]

It was a software issue that was already known about, the mountain had 0 to do with it

[@karenmarieh.j.3842]

What they should have done was tell how much the repairs would have cost if the vehicle was "NOT" under warranty. That would have been more of a service to the everyday woman and man, who will be the next or third owners, of a jeep with e-torque.

[@jimnielsen4076]

For an altitude test take the Loveland Pass. That's open.

[@mrhotkeys1]

My white JLU had issues with the paint as well. In some production runs Jeep added too much flex agent to the white causing it to “yellow”. In other runs they didn’t add enough flex agent in the paint causing the paint be brittle and chip off. Take it back to the dealership and have them escalate the issue to FCA warranty department.

[@emu4wd]

My white rubicon in Australia on day one even had bad painting in the tailgate. Looks like a very thin coat? So it’s seems it’s a global paint process that’s the issue. Steve 🇦🇺

[@slipjoint637]

That Tesla level paint right there 😂

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

EMU4WD I've noticed it as well on my 2019 longhorn.

[@ronwhite1642]

It's a clear coat problem all the paint comes from ppg premix I no I was the paint shop boss my last 2 years at jeep . This waterborne paint sucks probably base coat was not dry enough before the clear coat 🤔👍

[@lunamaria1048]

You have taught me all the important technical stuff about off roading!.. My husband loves not having to explain EVERYTHING anymore when we are overlanding.. First time he told me to "Turn on the rear locker" I spent 5 minutes searching for the button to turn on and off ABS breaks lol.. You know, because ABS keeps breaks from locking lol.... I still have much to learn but learned a ton from you guys.. My husband is amazingly patient and you guys pass on knowledge in a fun way that always keeps me interested.. Thank you! :)

[@michaelbury1941]

All new models have issues to sort through. Even Toyota’s and the recent Tacoma. What interests me more is how it is dealt with by the dealer and manufacturer. In this case good job.

[@philguzman6932]

A Fiat broke...imagine my surprise.

[@tedt1065]

Fix It Again Tony Fiat

[@philguzman6932]

ted t Right?

[@jeepjoseph9036]

Its not a Damn fiat

[@philguzman6932]

It's a Fiat. You're in denial.

[@AlbertManiscalco]

@@philguzman6932 lame snarky comment on the internet about a fiat engine, imagine my surprise.

[@jcshobbiesandrecreation5873]

This is exactly why I cancelled my order for the 2019 rubicon. Hope Jeep gets their crap together as I would like to have one but I won’t put up with that lack of quality.

[@itr0863]

esp for the price of the rubicon.

[@jeffk464]

yeah, crazy, modern cars don't have these problems anymore.

[@bertito43]

Get a Tacoma

[@RealMrNails]

Get a Defender

[@apt62]

John smith smart move

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

It seems like a common electrical problem on the etorque equipped Jeeps, I had a feeling y’alls was in the shop too.

[@manimalworks7424]

Now I feel better with my Buick Enclave, It made to 40k miles before the engine died.

[@chrisecker9341]

Never had a low tire warning in my 89 YJ.

[@danielfrederick306]

I’d almost say Chrysler did but what the hell I got an 05 tj and I’d rather have an older one

[@eltoro13]

Having issues with that low mileage and 2 weeks on the shop for a simple update and a repaint and this guys dont even complain. I bet if it was a ford truck they would be bashing it left and right

[@jimnielsen4076]

If it was your only vehicle 2 weeks would be a long time!

[@rondail5675]

Two weeks, tells me they really didn't know what the problem was and guessed. Come-on, 1 day to diagnose, 2 days to receive parts, 1 day to install and update. I don't like that dealership!

[@njabulogodfrey2039]

Yeah man, Ford is the least loved in the US by my point of standing but guess what,it's the only one successful outside the US

[@njabulogodfrey2039]

Why is your receipt written GMC?

[@danielsuarez9851]

i would sell it right away.

[@DSKSeattle]

My 2012 Toyota Highlander had a bad window switch when we first bought it. After that, it had zero problems to 112,000 miles. You can’t base reliability on one issue. Wait and see.

[@davidharris9259]

Minh Tran I bet your frame is rusting like all Toyota trucks.

[@DSKSeattle]

No. I live in the Pacific NW, where we rarely salt the road.

[@tonysalami184]

@@davidharris9259 what a prick

[@VideosOffRoad]

Let's see how far your Highlander can follow a Wrangler off road.

[@DeltaSierra426]

Finally one sensible comment. It's a brand new powertrain that hasn't had the kinks worked out.

[@willneverrememberit1]

My jeep broke down in Colorado last month as well. 1200 miles from home. Transmission cooler broke. Wasn't cheap.

[@hellaacapella]

Kelly B one of the reasons I chose a manual transmission

[@anthonyjenkinson2710]

Andre: "didn't see many jeeps in Queensland" Yeah there is a reason for that.......

[@jamescox781]

Your implication is that either English (RR) or Jap(Toy) is better engineering. Well, two counter-points to that implication: 1) The Euros now own Jeep. Nuff said. 2) Yeah, the J's won WWII - except they didn't. The Es won WWII. Except they needed us to do it. Mic drop.

[@robertshea4652]

James Cox huh

[@freethinker4991]

Only fools buy Jeep! They are one of the most poorly built and supported vehicles have a look at this kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6rWanufl995g6c that is why we "didn't see many jeeps in Queensland"

[@GamingAmbienceLive]

you cant comment this under his video, he will no longer be sponsored by jeep, they only have to say good things, he will have now to take another "not broken" jeep there to prove that it wont break.

[@tim8deb]

@druss999 that is a on the money comment . James Cox been smoking that crack pipe. What are you talking about .Not many Jeeps in Australia because they are shit boxes its that simple.

[@mikewright2858]

The guy riding the bike up that mountain at the elevation ... bad ass!

[@Spike-13]

A co worker got a new jeep and has had nothing but problems. Had the engine rebuilt and still had more problems...

[@johnathoncastro]

Engine rebuilt on a brand new jeep wtf...poor guy!!!!

[@slipjoint637]

Engine rebuild on new car? Lemon law that pos

[@Spike-13]

@@johnathoncastro yeah I feel bad for the guy, it's his first car and all his relatives pitched in to help him pay it off...

[@TheTempest909]

A jeep with electrical issues. Some things never change

[@JeepCherokeeful]

Tow trucks go up there no problem, you’re not the Only FCA owners!

[@machintelligence]

I have heard that 95% of modern Jeeps are still on the highway -- the rest made it home -- behind a tow truck.

[@gsxr1189]

@@machintelligence Not true. Modern tow trucks are mostly flatbeds thus Jeeps make it home on the tow truck.

[@rmkscrambler]

So Far TFL has only had to call a tow truck on Ford. Although this was a close one

[@gsxr1189]

No doubt tow truck drivers are loving the Fiat/Jeeps because job security.

[@rmkscrambler]

@@gsxr1189 considering the fact that most tow trucks are RAMs. Yeah tow truck driver s love FCA prouducts for job security.

[@dmwil1]

That right there is one of several reasons I chose the 3.6/manual combo in my 2018 JLUR. 1.5 years and 23k miles later, it has had zero issues. (Not just the engine, but the entire Jeep. It's been perfect.)

[@MaxMotoYYC]

Ok.... I guess my old 4Runner will stick with the family a little bit longer

[@IamJay02]

Good

[@jaforsel]

Good plan. I traded my 17 4runner in on my 18 JLUR. The JLUR is a Lemon. Stick with Toyota.

[@johnsailor6081]

Toyota’s are trash

[@MemphisMojo15s]

@@johnsailor6081 LOL. Thats why they're always so far ahead of FIAT on the charts and real life, sells, customer loyalty, and still owned by the same people, unlike Jeep and Chrysler in general where they've been owned by several companies and still can't get their ratings and sells up...yeah, the largest automobile company in the world is trash? You're a couch potato keyboard warrior 😂

[@mikefoehr235]

@Captain Caveman You sir are a total moronic iditiot.

[@smarticus6384]

Don’t worry. It’s a Jeep. It’s normal.

[@ea1070]

Hahahahaha

[@dmoney6633]

Smarticus lol that is not a normal Jeep turbos are stupid on jeeps

[@pistolpete6321]

Great video as usual! Too many recalls for such a new vehicle, not good!

[@a.r.walker6255]

Man. Tommy always breaking the cars lol!

[@gilbert.gardea]

I have 7,600 miles on my 18' Turbo JL I have driven in mainly sand dunes, light snow, driven up steep hills in SoCal (nothing like the one you guys were at) and thats never happened to me! Glad it was fixed!

[@kevincolson5319]

My wife and I had a jeep, spent 62 days in the shop for mostly electrial problems. Jeep bought it back and we will not be buying another. one. The 4Runner will be our next new automobile.

[@solooverland3666]

kevin colson You’ll love and enjoy the 4Runner!

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

I had nothing but issues with my 4runner limited. One of the biggest POS'S I've ever owned!

[@adamgomez2480]

@@JohnDoe-nz6bk I have a 1999 single cab prerunner tacoma, I love it. I have at 2017 4Runner Premium, Nautical Blue. You will love your new 4runner.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Adam Gomez huh? I don't have that 2018 pos anymore! I have a 2019 ram longhorn now.

[@johnganshow5536]

I'll stay with the 6 cylinder Pentastar engine. Thanks...

[@9aqua_man282]

John Ganshow pentastar is a great engine !

[@johnganshow5536]

@@9aqua_man282 I'm really happy with mine, no need to try any other Jeep offering...

[@JheregCG60]

Same, my 2013 Penta is good to go.

[@HomebrewHorsepower]

I'll stick with a stroked 4 liter!

[@errickkitchin36]

They're great man. My mom has a 2016 Chally with Pentastar. It has 130,000 miles now and no problems.

[@freakincrazy6932]

Funny to find this video today. My 2019 rubicon unlimited v6, had battery issues 2 days ago. All electronics would not work, nor would it even start. Something is up with electronics on these JL. It's at a dealer now after jump starting it. Let's hope its fixed.

[@itr0863]

Unacceptable for the price you pay and being brand new.

[@86steelrain]

Dodge/ Chrysler/ Fiat is becoming notorious for issues with their electrical systems...

[@4x4larry]

I agree... you guys should take it back up the hill to see if it happens again

[@Sirgromulus]

That's why the 4Runner exists. Slightly less off-road capability but far better reliability (and everyday "comfort").

[@tgamble803]

So true

[@giorgiogroves]

Thank you for being so transparent about vehicles you guys buy. The fact that they had the vehicle for that long means they definitely escalated the issue straight to engineering. Instead of saying: "we looked into the logs and it's working fine now. Therefore there's nothing we can do." As a service engineer for a company that manufactures X-ray equipment. I see this first hand, and the amount of time it takes to have updates tested and validated.

[@Emilthehun]

Good video. It showcases all new cars and their problems that get worked out while in consumers hands. This isn't a jeep thing , its every car manufacturer. At least they fixed it. When will you guys do the mpg loop test in the city?

[@Emilthehun]

@Rick James5678 brand cheerleader 😂👍! Good one bro , but no I only love 1 brand. It's called best bang for my money. I have a Corolla with 34k , a malibu with 22k , a trans am with a 102k , and gmc envoy with 280k. And ironically my Toyota been to the dealer as many times as my Malibu. No difference in cars when suppliers of parts are pretty much the same. And I'll never believe any statistics when it comes to new cars because they rely on people with emotions to be reported. So you shouldn't be a hater of a brand. Buy whatever you like looking at and get it fixed for free when it breaks down. Dont be that brand loyal sucker .

[@paulj9821]

@@Emilthehun shh.... you are talking to much sense for these brand loyalists.

[@Emilthehun]

@@paulj9821 😂😂😂 truth

[@shift6131]

TFL Crew, you guys are the best! You provide us consumers with actual real road/life/off-road testing, purchasing different vehicles and doing unbiased reviews like you did with Subaru, Tesla’s and rest of you fleet. Thank you! I’m with Roman, get the Gladiator diesel next🙏🏼👍🏼 and Nathan should get Tacoma TRD PRO manual 🤘🏼) Good job guys! PS. Andre, На Здоровье🥃 донт дринк анд драйв ин да воодс. Hello from WA

[@Drunknmunky501]

That model 3 was having no bother getting up the hill

[@luisbarraza9709]

How about the guy on the bicycle 😅

[@mowcowbell]

Yep, electric motor don't care about thin air!

[@martialman.4563]

Came here for EV comments

[@jamespondy0]

@@mowcowbell neither did the 5.7 liter Ram.

[@phillipprior71]

I had a jeep once, had trouble climbing a hill which was a paved road, got to about 8600 feet, and I pulled over to find my radiator had over flowed and most of the antifreeze went into the air cleaner, I removed the air cleaned, release the pressure with the radiator. and everything worked fine. I reversed everything when I got off the hill, and replaced the air cleaner with a new one. I also removed the sponge filter on the bottom of the filter to allow more air to flow.

[@mysecretavatar]

It’s amazing that Jeep Wrangler has such amazing resale value given its questionable reliability record.

[@FACTOTUM_55]

Two words, cult following. My WRX is in the same boat (which is good for me and resale) but nothing special about it that warrants it's crazy resale retention. Aside from being one of the few cheaper cars with AWD turbo and a manual transmission.

[@johan.ohgren]

It's because it's a very specialized vehicle with very few competitors. Jeep Wrangler is a dedicated off-roader and almost the only one being sold as such.

[@khhoaiii]

that 10 years old land cruiser will outlast the brand new Jeep and Tesla.

[@slipjoint637]

4Runner to

[@ea1070]

Yes!!!

[@janetairlines1351]

Any toyota

[@Camerongproctpr]

Out last the tesla really? Whatcha smoking?

[@philtripe]

the old Rover was more reliable and as you say, may outlast this Jeep...truth is people love jeeps and in a couple of years this Jeep will get an LS motor

[@voodoochildmd]

So it just needed a software update? Where are they getting their programmers? Same guys who did the boeing 737s?

[@itr0863]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@jolivas1437]

voodoochildmd ouch

[@shawn_hu]

HCL

[@ajspang4291]

Hahahahaha. Yup pretty much.

[@smokefast90606]

Man that fiat jeep is well a fiat they are known for electric issues shame

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

William Lonsky yeah it’s more of a poor quality of Chinese made copper and electronic relays problem than anything else.

[@Emilthehun]

As cars get infinitely more complicated, every single manufacturer is having these same issues.

[@noelebbert9322]

@@Emilthehun no, they aren't. Toyota does not have these issues. Not that will live you stranded or the engine dying

[@Emilthehun]

@@noelebbert9322 really? Interesting because you might be the only one who dont know how Toyota was one of the first to kill people with their electric throttle problems. But hey you believe in whatever you want to believe in to comfort your self Noel.

[@La-yt1wr]

humpty Dude it’s Fiat Chrysler for the Chrysler side there’s Chrysler, Dodge Jeep, Ram, and SRT Fiat’s side there’s Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Maserati, Lancia, and more there’s some educator for you

[@solofade7524]

I bought a 2021 rubicon 2.0 and this thing is a beast! I mean this is one bad instance of a car having issues. But so far mine has been amaze.

[@jaye0819]

I have 30,000 miles on my 2018 JLU. Had to have the steering stabilizer replaced, but other than that, no problem.

[@grisa12345]

Now that I’m a jeep owner I’m going to say that this was a minor issue, lol. Glad I have a 2019 JLUR with the 3.6-4500 miles and 25 trails, totally flawless.

[@itr0863]

I would hope you wouldn't have ANY issues from a brand new vehicle with less than 5k miles.

[@tallll70]

Well, they have problem with new tech they just started, not surprise for any maker, i had first (EGR) problem with 2006 Ram when it was 7 years old, then more came after reaching11 years...now in 2013 RAM i had 1st problem about 2monts ago, leaking 3th break light, fixed it my self in about 10 min

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

My wife has the turbo 4 and loves it. 10,000 Miles and really no issues. Her passenger seat broke, that's it!

[@MalachiBurke]

Hmm, 2 weeks to repair a minor issue...

[@ivanherrera3938]

Wow a Chrysler product broke down who would have known LOL

[@fredhoffman6658]

😆 Your so right.

[@pauls3758]

Yep Chrysler is crap no getting around that

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

And yet, Ford has broken down more on this channel then any other manufacturers!

[@73dustpan]

Not Chrysler, Fiat.

[@paulj9821]

@@73dustpan so, do you also call Ferrari's Fiat, based on your logic.

[@DaleKirkley]

I have the exact same Jeep but in 2 door, had it for 9 months from new, and I’m seeing the same yellowing on my grill. I noticed it a few months ago.

[@Michael-pq6dn]

It’s a well documented paint issue

[@BRAVOACTUAL]

Even my dealer told us the e torque was bad. Glad I got a JK that was still on the lot.

[@JeffreyTheTaylor]

BRAVO ACTUAL Very happy with my 2016 JK, plan to keep it a long time.

[@BRAVOACTUAL]

@@JeffreyTheTaylor I was able to score a new '17 that hadnt sold. Happy with my Willys Unlimited.

[@ati573]

I have over 8000 miles on mine, has same engine, and have gone off roading many times in the 8000 feet range, fully loaded with gear, never had an issue, sometimes crap breaks

[@913Z06]

I have the same 2.0 2019 JLU Rubicon. Did the same road to the top and not a single issue. I've had it 3 month now. 8600 miles and 5 badges of honor so far. No issues. Great Jeep. Plus it's my 6th Jeep. Not a nub here

[@gsxr1189]

Two Jeep owners bragging about 8000 miles and no repairs LMFAO. My TRD PRO Tacoma is asking me to hold it's beer for the next 10 years.

[@ati573]

@@gsxr1189 your toy is so outdated on many levels, such as drum brakes in the back, GPS, nav, and so on, and many new toy owners are having relibillity issues, and how's your frame, many are complaining about them starting to rust out. I admit older toys where super reliable, however now they aren't and 12 years behind in tech. And slow as hell, poor gas mileage numbers when loaded up. So enjoy your beer because you will be out of gas why us jeeps people will still be going places your toy can't

[@913Z06]

@@gsxr1189 What you missed was that the video was making it sound like the JL with a 2.0 breaks down in less than 3000 miles and at altitudes. I'm sure you Toyota does well on the road. I've waited on several TRD's on the trail to get over and up and over. I'm extremely impressed with the JL over my JK and my TJ. So enjoy the Toyota it's a good vehicle. When you're ready and can afford to move up don't be afraid. Till then sit on the porch and bark.

[@gsxr1189]

Nice try fellas. Fiat/Jeep = Shit But if I ever see a Jeep owner broke down deep in the back country I'll be sure to wave.

[@Suction_]

After all it still is an FCA product. I'm not shocked

[@Arcticarc1]

That’s what you guys get for getting the turbo. You should have get the wayyyy more reliable 3.6

[@Whiteandsonsgarage]

Arcticarc1 I always stick with petrol motors

[@jimnielsen4076]

I bet they wanted to turbo engine to test it long term for us!

[@bobquattrini1787]

@@avery07 my 1999 Jeep Cherokee Xj 4.0 has almost 400,000 miles and is just like new and it'll Outlast anything you drive

[@mdubiansky603]

Typical Chrysler. And if your dealer is anything like mine was, they won't be able to fix it.

[@magnacartasamadams8189]

Yeah that's the problem anymore there's no mechanics they don't repair stuff they should just change their title to parts changers

[@insomniacryan9916]

Here’s a funny tidbit: I drove that road a couple times last summer, and camped down at West Chicago Creek six times (I think) in the last year. My vehicle? A 2005 Chrysler Town and Country minivan. Also an FCA product. Zero problems, and also zero problems in the other 40,000 miles I’ve put on it. That generation of minivan is one of the only vehicles they ever got right. Watching this video is hilarious. How do they keep building stuff this badly?

[@choosumfat]

"It's no longer yellowing" No, it's no longer yellow. Repainting it only fixed the symptom not the problem (looking at what was done) so I'd expect to see it yellowing again in about the same amount of time. Likely has to do with heat dissipation.

[@JustinKingOffroad]

very interesting video, i'll be headed to my dealer for my first included oil change some time in October, and I know them pretty well, I will have them check my 2018 for any needed software updates etc.

[@conduit242]

The problem with FCA software is it could easily make the problem worse

[@awabali4695]

That really expected from fiat/Chrysler Co. they have keeping made really bad and low quality Vehicles and basically become piece of junk .

[@mba4754]

Love the 615 hat Tommy is wearing! I'd love to buy you a beer next time you're in Nashville. Love the channel, been following you guys for 5+ years.

[@michaelsteel5177]

I have two Sahara JK Unlimiteds bought new 2007 & 2008 with life time warranties on the powertrain and 150,000 miles on each and never had a major issue or needed the warranty claim. I’m ready to buy a new Wrangler but they need to offer a longer warranty again to bring me back in.

[@kohler7277]

I wanted a 2 liter turbo but I have a JK. I haven't had any issues with it and it's my daily driver. 50k miles without a issue and I'm happy with it. I've been reading JL have been having lots of issues.

[@matthewchetcuti3278]

Lol. If you’ve seen consumer reports reliability about any of FCA’s products.....nothing new To see here

[@willb3018]

Long, long before Fiat, Chryslers were junk. Had one.....and my first was my last.

[@alexfrankl7861]

Jeep sales in Australia are in free fall , so unreliable with very poor dealer support .

[@Whiteandsonsgarage]

Alex Frankl I’ve been a couple bad stories coming out

[@malifestro7596]

True story. I was just there on vacation and people don't trust Jeep brand.

[@AngryG4M3R]

Long time Mopar guy here. We bought my wife a JL. Identical to yours in every way down to the color. It's got 4300 miles on it now and have had it in 3 times for 3 different issues now. At 400 miles the check engine light came on due to a fault with the evaporator unit they had to keep it for a week. At 2k miles the e-torque unit completely stopped working and left us stranded in the middle of an intersection, Now they have it again because auto start causes the check engine light to come on and the vehicle stalls out at low speeds. In addition to the major mechanical issues there are small quality control things. Before we got the jeep home the 1st day the center console latch snapped off and we've been waiting on a replacement part for that since February. Her white paint has started to yellow and stain on like 4 different body panels, and her cylinder deactivation hasn't worked since the 2nd day we've had it and every time they fix it the issue returns (not a big deal since we hate it anyways). Jeeps just aren't what they used to be. I got a DT ram over the gladiator and I am glad for my decision every time I get in her Jeep.

[@ryanmartinage]

This is why I got the 3.6l. 22k miles around the country and zero issues. It's also taken off-road frequently. I feel like there dealer should've done those updates before selling it to you. Thankfully it was just software.

[@charlieporch3181]

Having to repaint a 50K or more Jeep. Get real. I would want a factory painted one. Fiat Jeep is one of the best off road vehicles when it works. Problem is it will always let you down. I have a TRD Pro Tundra. No issues , it runs.

[@itr0863]

My dad just traded in his Rubicon for a 4runner. Issue after issue from a brand new vehicle. Inexcusable.

[@bartwaggoner2000]

This makes me really want to keep my JK - it was designed when Daimler owned Chrysler. Fiat has made new JL buggy by adding so much complexity just to eke out 2 extra MPG.

[@paulj9821]

yeah like it would be any different if Daimler was still running them. Oh and Daimler made poor quality products from 2000-2008

[@garysisk3431]

@@paulj9821 love my 04 Dodge 1500, best truck I ever owned, and yes have owned all the manufactures pickups. As well my 17 Jeep GC has been trouble free

[@paulj9821]

@@garysisk3431 yeah you probably take care of your vechiles. Most these cats here are just playing follow the leader and simply parroting what they hear, rather than real world experience

[@jeffissimo1221]

That Jeep needs a name. Given how it's acting, I nominate the name Karen. Karens are moody. They gripe. They never have fun and don't want anyone else to have fun. They spoil everything. That Jeep is a Karen.

[@gunyoda2356]

Jeffissimo 1 hahahahaha

[@dnlcast2]

I'd call it a "Lemon"

[@skulz1974]

Best comment! Karen !!! Lol

[@iloveamerica1966]

Recent break up, huh? Does Karen know yet?

[@berryreading4809]

Karen has nothing to do with that relationship but already knows because Karen is a nosy bitch interested in sharing everyone's personal and private business.

[@adamreily7079]

Pikes peak has been fully paved for a couple years now, and is 14110 feet. It also is in usa

[@spuriouseffect]

My 2008 Wrangler had issues with the steering damper too! It's about time they took care of that problem with a recall. That's one thing I like about Jeep, they didn't just slap the same replacement parts on there, they actually upgraded the parts that were bad so there would be no further problems. The only thing they wouldn't fix were the crappy suspension joints which I replaced with Moog.

[@bmwloco]

And you paid how much for the VW Touareg?

[@karenmarieh.j.3842]

I was thinking if that also ....If you go outside and turn your ear towards Germany .. you can possibly hear the word FAHRVERGNUGEN !!! It is just funny... the more fancy new tech they..the auto companies .... add the more disasters that are waiting,

[@mikehansen6370]

It’s a Jeep. Of course it broke.

[@donwhitehead4587]

😂

[@janetairlines1351]

Fiat reliability

[@mmiller1188]

*FCA product

[@ea1070]

Yes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍

[@janetairlines1351]

Imagine if they did the same hydroline torture test on this fiat as they did to the 4runner? A secret hatch door would open, a shovel would pop out, and This thing would dig its own grave.

[@shockracer]

My tires always say they are low going to the top of mount Evans, thinner air and much colder. When you started driving the tires warmed up and caused the pressure to rise, like cold winter mornings here in Colorado.

[@mikec5820]

Wouldn't the thinner, high elevation air that is outside the tires not effect the air in the tires? I get the temp change idea, but my trucks only lost about 2 psi in 5 degree weather

[@machintelligence]

The thinner air at the top of the mountain should result in a higher pressure differential between the inside of the tire and the outside -- so a higher effective tire pressure.

[@twntyfor24]

My dad bought a 2019 $54,000 Rubicon with about 1,000 miles and the radio works intermittently, and the back up camera is a blue screen. Dealer said, known problem they can't fix, wait for computer update.

[@itr0863]

imagine spending that much on a car with those problems already and that's what the service department tells you? that's horrible. like here's your car, we can't fix the radio and camera. have a nice day.

[@DazeDream]

Glad I elected to get the 3.6 in my JLU. I don’t think they’ve worked the bugs in the 48V system yet.

[@sanchilloz]

An FCA product failing?? Normal.

[@sebzx779]

Just had the hybrid battery replaced with the same issue. Hybrid battery over heating.

[@slipjoint637]

Tech not ready for prime time

[@mskz06]

@@slipjoint637 Maybe in this particular case. Toyota seems to have figured out hybrid tech just fine.

[@johng4527]

given that the battery only has about the same capacity of 2 or 3 cordless drill batteries, I'm not surprised. I bet it costs more than a couple drill batteries though.

[@hereto246]

Exactly why I didn’t get the 2.0 L Stay with the proven design.

[@gpaje]

Just a software issue, TSB reflash fixed it.

[@hereto246]

gpage yeah. But how long was it on the shop? Me I need the Jeep daily. So Reliablity is a big deal for me.

[@gpaje]

@@hereto246 Sure, but I doubt this will be a common occurrence and they likely would have given them a rental should they have needed one. No car is perfect, even my Acura and Lexus needed an odd dealer visit.

[@Yan7001978]

Just use the cruiser that you got! With a jeep it's always a jeep thing! Same for the rust near the headlight! You guys are honest to put that on your channel, keep on your good work!

[@jeepin4life]

I think it’s been to long since we’ve had the 4.0L.

[@fellar031]

The pentastar engine is a beast. That’s why i m not switching my jk for that reason

[@ChanceandChoice]

The v6 pen is also in the JL, but they're driving the new engine. I got the manual transmission with the pentastar. Tried and true with a decades worth of trouble shooting. Why risk 40+ K in a new untested engine?

[@doddgarger6806]

So's the 4.6 with a mopar cam I just built 😁

[@Hugh-jaynes]

JEEP: J-ust E-xpect E-lectrical P-roblems Never thought this would prove to be true :/

[@humbertorodriguez7906]

Christian Espinoza or Just Empty Every Pocket lmao

[@antitheist5567]

Just Empty Every Pocket

[@hyper4978]

I thought it was J.ust E.mpty E.very P.enny The agency I was with we had two and I had to take them to the dealer twice the first year they were bought because electrical issues.

[@aaron5222]

Lol I think you spelled Volkswagen wrong

[@nickbonilla4368]

2 weeks for a stabalizer, painted grill and 3 or so hours worth of software updates, that ridiculous. Sorry to hear, I had all the software updates done in about 3-4 hours.

[@Colorado4x4]

And people are going to want a modern diesel made by the same folks! Love the honest review and your channel. Keep it coming!

[@AKJeeper]

I was excited when the JLs came out, as they seemed to fix some of the things (mostly aesthetics and interior) I didn't like about the JKs. I figured I'd give it a year or two (I never buy new vehicles until after they've past two model years) for FCA to work the bugs out. For being one of FCA's most popular and important vehicles, you'd think they would have paid extra attention to the new JL Wranglers. I'm starting to think my money is better spent elsewhere at this rate...

[@ChanceandChoice]

The JL has a more refined ride quality than a JK on the street. The pentastar engine is doing how you would expect from the JKs, it's the new 4 cylinder turbo with e torque engine that's giving them issues. Just like any new engine, there will be kinks to work out for years. If you want a JL I would advise people to stick to the pentastar to lower risk with new car engine issues.

[@falkobalko9006]

Of course it broke down...isn’t that what jeeps do?!

[@87fubar]

some of those 2019 wranglers are getting death wobble right off the dealer lot that's the reason for the steering damper recall "quick fix"

[@jedironin380]

"Death Wobble" is NEVER caused, nor fixed, by a damper. Somehow FCA got it in their heads that it is and will replace multiple dampers on the same vehicle for the same issue (the definition of insanity), before finally checking the other parts that CAN cause the DW.

[@Bryan-Hensley]

Did Ford ever get rid of the DW

[@Bryan-Hensley]

@Der Schwindel we had several ambulances to crash because of this. Our local EMS doesn't buy Ford anymore..

[@davidyackell]

So sad, Jeep keeps upping the cost to buy a Wrangler and pricing them out of reach more and more for the 'average buyer' but the quality keeps going down. I'm on my 3rd Grand Cherokee and I love them even though they are not considered a 'pure Jeep'. I've never had any issues, but I fear the next gen that will have way more Fiat influence will ruin it forever!!

[@stevenlefebvre2991]

I appreciate that you guys are totally honest with us that’s why we want to watch your videos.

[@JeepTherapy]

My first thought was insufficient grounding. That’s usually the case in computer electronics. Engineers often, when designing PCBs, miscalculate exactly how much grounding parts need. They often put enough via computer simulation software, but they can’t simulate drivers. (Not that you’re a bad driver.)

[@Eightball2516]

That’s the problem with the e torque when it quits you are stuck I would never buy anything that had the e torque