DSG Service on MK7 Golf R - DIY How To

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After some research, I should have left the car on while draining the last of the fluid. I have since redone the procedure properly.
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[@tierraycielo]

Great video, thanks for taking the time to record and uploading it to youtube, my car is at 36,000 miles so very soon I'll be doing this DSG service to mine.

[@dorkultra]

lol i love the crisper drawer for a drain pan

[@kchan333]

You are not supposed to turn off the car when you drain the excess fluid. You need to keep the internal DSG pump running when you set the level. This is also the reason why you saw fluid coming out before the level tube was removed. The engine was off so the internal pump was not running and circulating oil. This is an easy job but I see so many do something wrong.

[@charlie271210]

do you know where it actually says this

[@kchan333]

@@charlie271210 do whatever you want...it's your car.

[@james3mecar]

Wrong, your supposed to leave the car running when you release the fluid. Now your transmission will be underfilled.

[@chrisgee2616]

It really doesn't matter.. he left the car on for about 10minutes. It should be warmed up already.

[@22Epic]

@@chrisgee2616 It does matter lol. When the car is running the oil the circulating so the oil level in the pan is lower than when the car is turned off (as most of the oil goes back in the pan). The car underfilled which is not good for the transmission.

[@chrisgee2616]

@@22Epic that's why he left it running for 10miniutes.. thats the proper way to do it. Not when the car is running.

[@22Epic]

@@chrisgee2616 check the VAG service manual. If the car don't run, you will remove more oil than required resulting in a gearbox failure. Should be quite simple to understand the logic behind having the car running. You can try at home : take a bucket of water, a hose with the 2 sides in the bucket, add a fish tank water pump. Let the water pump run, you will see that the water level inside the bucket will go down as part of the water will be in the hose. Stop the water pump, the water level will rise. now I think you can understand why it's important to have the engine running to get the correct amount of oil.

[@oooooo3231]

fyi, this dude is becoming a doctor. so ehh if you mess up right?! for the right measurement, the engine is supposed to be running. i would prefer to watch DAP instructions. paul on DAP.com, paul is a real mechanic. paul truly practices his craft rather than this guy. some who is just trying to make money on youtube with out real skills in what he is trying to teach others. this "zapforhim" youtube channel should not be trusted for mistakes like this that can damage your car. *** if anyone has their car damaged because of this fools instructions you cab actually sue him.

[@TheAutomotiveFanatic]

Zed4me, I've watched a few of your videos and appreciate them. I'll do a similar task on my S3 as I'm running up on 60k. Keep up the good work.

[@danielreinke5247]

You using the same liqui moly 8100 dual clutch oil? Because I’m about to do the same service on my s3 with liqui moly 8100 and haven’t seen many other people use that fluid

[@TheAutomotiveFanatic]

@@danielreinke5247 I do not, but just make sure it's certified to work in the DSG.

[@tonyd3266]

got same pressurized pump. switching between my ZF tiptronic audi service fluid to VAG DSG OE fluid I didnt want to wash it out with soap and water... just not keen on that when fluid types are pretty similar. so I took a few new disposable 24 oz beer cups and filled them with the 37K old DSG fluid when draining it and then flushed the ZF traces out one cup at a time. when I filled it with new VAG DSG then I pushed out a bit to get all new blood in the passat. its so nice using this pump - well worth it. And its an instant payback verses dealer rates. ALso I used the plastic low profile drive up ramps for the front wheels and then got 2 jacks for the back and another set of ramps as wheel chocks. used a 3' level to check body level and had plenty of room under car to do the job. its nice not needing to drop the pan on the DSG and play with gaskets. I AGREE THAT HE SHOULD HAVE LEFT THE CAR RUNNING ON FINAL DRAIN - IF ENGINE OFF THEN FLUID DRAINS INTO THE PAN AND IT WILL BE UNDERFILLED if draining then. after reinstalling the battery, its taking a little while for my TDI passat to relearn itself. Had to re-set the wheel pressure sensors. the reset of the idiot lights went off on the 3rd start, but I will clear codes when I get the schwaben reader hooked up.

[@wakhewinterwisemhlanga2389]

Good job man...... ( see my info below) 1. Why lot of oil came out after removing the drain plug its because, the engine wasn't running and all working oil was at the bottom which settled above the black plastic level tube. 2. You need to drain excess oil while when the engine is idling, to ensure that all working oil is filled up in all channel's.

[@kapsalonalona3763]

Hello Wakhe Wise Mhlanga. Do you know how to do a DSG service at a VW Golf 7 GTE (hybrid)? I have a vcds.

[@matthewmott8966]

Hi what software were you using on your phone to tell what temperature the oil was in the DSG gearbox ? Do you know if Carista will show this info?

[@johnr6841]

Why has this not been notated with the fact that the final drain to level is to be done with the vehicle running? I cannot imagine the issues people will have by following the incorrect procedure here for doing the final level setting.

[@MauriceNL1]

How fast does the DSG warm up normaly? I have a Golf GTE and from 2 days of not running (so cold) when i turned on the engine the engine coolant + DSG temps were 45 degrees Celcius after around 40 seconds

[@kk.7873]

Thanks for the great video. Where is this scan tool made from?

[@flomacedo1140]

The level is with the engine running...

[@zed4me]

You are right! That explains it, thanks

[@morenosankovic6972]

HI Zed,question how to do dynamic turn signals on golf 7 gtd 2015 can u help somehow im desperate? Tnx in advance

[@tedjohnson64]

Nice tutorial!

[@JackRR15]

Hey was wondering if it runs good with Liquy Moly and even if you see any improvements?

[@jw18xxx]

Gonna recommend to people for ease to just replaced dsg filter at 20k. Mine was done around that and noticed a slight lag on shift. New dsg filter soaked and runs back to normal. If you do heavy abuse an extra filter change between fluid intervals won't hurt. It's easy enough to do and shift points dependant on good fluid flow

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

Nice tutorial brother. Do you have one for the engine oil changes?

[@zed4me]

Yes sir! One is conventional and the other is with a topsider. Both videos on my channel.

[@simosafi1186]

Hello you can show me how to drain dgs for Audi q5 2.0 four 177 horses

[@mohammed_alsurour]

good job its so easy thank u

[@Kiss__Kiss]

Is the Audi S3/TTS the same way? Since it has the same drivetrain?

[@Leatherkid01]

Atf came out before drain plug removal cause engine is off.....check level when engine is running and its the right level.... thats why the miss reading when draining. Level check is done with engine running at the specified trans temp.

[@valici1985]

Good job

[@nick_conti]

VWDealer in NJ quoted $325 dsg service $150 for Haldex

[@raynorpang]

7:00 Did you use a floor jack as a jack stand?

[@slags83]

Good vid!

[@arturasnesakysiu1684]

bad video

[@swisstralian_biker]

Isn't the DSG capacity 5.5L? How are you running it with ~4L?

[@Rommellollis]

nice vid, quick question. Shouldn’t the level be checked (after filling it & at temperature) with the car running?

[@22Epic]

It should and must be checked with the car running. When the car is running the oil is circulating in the system so the oil level in the pan is lower than when the car is turned off (as all the oil goes back to the pan). If you do the level with the car off, you're removing too much oil which is not good for your transmission.

[@igorpetrov1641]

COOL VIDEO, THANK YOU

[@barberboyz]

hi, what software do you use to see the oil temperature of the haldex and gearbox oil?

[@juanulloa840]

I think is OBDeleven

[@timeformetoact6]

You can remove the top of the Schwaben filler pump, just takes a bit of force to turn. I just removed my to clean it.

[@navindralr]

maybe the transmission was overfilled from the factory and the extra oil had flowed through the snorkel and was just sitting in the transmission casing until you opened the drain plug?

[@zed4me]

That's a big overfill! I've watched other videos and it's pretty similar. I wonder if it's the second oil change if this wouldn't happen.

[@TheCarpenterUnion]

Makes me think the warmup period is probably not needed. It works basically the same as a coolant reservoir.

[@craigldavis]

No. Transmission Fluid needs to be checked with the engine running and at the specified temp. When its not running, the transmission pump isn't turning and pushing fluid. As a result, when the car is off, all of the fluid that's normally being pumped through the transmission drains into the pan. So when you open the drain plug when the engine is OFF you're draining the fluid that needs to be running through the system during normal operation. When draining, that's fine - you want to get it all out. When filling, the trans takes just under 5 Liters, so put in 5. Only when you have the level tube installed, engine running, transmission at specified temp can you open the plug to let the excess run out WHILE THE ENGINE IS RUNNING AND THE TRANSMISSION PUMP IS SENDING FLUID THROUGH TH SYSTEM. Hope that makes sense.

[@pinalloy6505]

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[@danielmunoz128]

Zed. This might be a dumb question. I purchase a mk6 GLI autobahn with 19.5k miles 3 years ago I’ve babied it pretty much and didn’t use it as my daily. Today after checking the ODO I have 31k miles. Been receiving emails about my car being past due for the DSG and 50k mile service from local VW dealer. Considering it’s a 2013 car purchased CPO from VW my question, besides the standered oil change, should I consider 40k/50k/dsg service since it’s time wise past due even though my ODO doesn’t reflect that? I’m sure if I call the dealer they’ll always recommend me spending money. What do you think? Thanks man.

[@zed4me]

You seem to understand how it works.. your car is "due" based on 10k miles per year, although your car has been driven less. While I appreciate you valuing my opinion, I guess I would only answer the question based on what I would do. If I was at 31k miles, I wouldn't do the DSG service yet. I would only do it if I wasn't expecting to get to 40k miles anytime soon. If you'll get to 40k in the next year or two, I would say its not worth doing the DSG service "early". That being said, if you never plan on driving the car often, servicing based on time instead of mileage is not a terrible idea. I always change my oil every year, even if I haven't passed 5k miles. Though I try and drive all my cars at least 10k miles a year.. no reason not to. Hope that helps!

[@Thomas8892Q]

Zed, You went back to the oem air box? Did you go back to stock?

[@zed4me]

Yes I went back to stock, prefer a quieter ride nowadays

[@CA-td2mx]

Does any vendor make a magnetic drain plug to capture any small metal particles?

[@richardsealey3626]

No....

[@mencken8]

A $300 kit isn’t necessary if the drain / measure / refill method isused. Also no leveling and no temperature taking. I did our Passat this way on ramps in the garage, hundreds of other people have done it this way.

[@Jlit3]

great vid man I've been looking at around for someone who did this during 2019. I have a dumb question tho. Currently on my Mk7 I have 12k miles its a 2015 and I was told by the dealer i should probably get this done close to 20k miles which I don't mind but I had the inspection light come on I still feel like 12k is too soon for a dsg service I can see 20k being a good and reasonable time to do it. Figured I'd ask you for your opinion on this

[@zed4me]

Sure, why not.. it's been four years so time itself is another ager of oil

[@MR-lq4zv]

It's never to early

[@neilg3364]

My Indy suggested 40k or 4 years

[@ComputersAre8ad]

My understanding is that anything that comes out before the snorkel is overfull fluid.

[@craigldavis]

No - it is the fluid that would be in the system when the pump is running. Transmission fluid level is set with the engine running and at a specified trans fluid temp just like other cars with a trans dipstick. This design just happens to be one where instead of a dipstick, the fill tube has a tube to set an exact level (overflows any excess).

[@reyman3544]

Nice video have you had any problems with dsg since owning your golf r?

[@zed4me]

None so far. These can hold a lot of power and be just fine.

[@reyman3544]

@@zed4me oh thanks for replying. Im living in the uk and planning on getting a gti very soon with dsg. But heard rumours about dsg reliability. Nice car , new sub

[@zed4me]

@@reyman3544 historically they have not been very reliable. This newest DSG has yet to show big issues though even though people are putting a lot of miles and hours of use. Only time will tell.

[@biz4twobiz463]

nice overall video. As others have said, the draining procedure has to be with the car running. I noticed your comment about redoing this part of the procedure. So, you probably saved your dsg!! I'm curious, if any more drained out?? Or did you have to add?? Merci

[@MLeung-vl7we]

One comment: My understanding is to keep the car in idle when you are letting the overflow drain out. Logic is when the pumps stop, fluid will stop circulating and accumulate in the pan. If you're measuring using the overflow tube, arent you actually over-draining the fluid level? This also explains why you have so much excess fluid when you first started to drain. It wasnt running, thus sitting in the pan and above the overflow level. Dude, if you said that 2 litters came out from the initial drain and it was factory-filled.....and you drained the new fluid with car off.....you might be short 2 liters in the DSG. If you're 2 liters short in a 5 liter system...its only 60% full. Hope you didnt put too many miles on the car since the change. Sorry, just saw the comments about underfilling a year ago. You should update your video at the end so DIY dont make the same mistake.

[@jw18xxx]

129k golf TDI listening about to do a DSG service

[@neilg3364]

Nice vid, what app is that?

[@SteveMedalle]

obdeleven app

[@cerrajerianajera2557]

7:10 that was so funny hahhaha

[@sparkyspark1582]

How many litre of transmission oil .for dsg 6 speed 2014 golf .110 bhp

[@all4amd344]

I believe it's 5 not 6 like in this video

[@XeroReplayz5]

@@all4amd344 he put 5 he didn't put 6 ECS kit comes with 6

[@Abdullah-ry2wq]

Did u feel any difference after using the liqui moly 8100 dsg oil?

[@zed4me]

No, as much as people like to say certain oils make the car smoother it's more than likely a placebo effect. Feels the same as usual, which is great!

[@RSCII]

What OBD scanner is that??

[@zed4me]

OBDEleven

[@xinesgsxr]

Liqui Moly is a good oil??

[@StreetAllianceCarMeets]

Yes

[@stevebbkny2394]

Do I have to do this on my manual?

[@zed4me]

Not this procedure but the manual has its own oil changing interval/procedure

[@jottow680]

The dsg is a computer controlled manual gearbox.

[@joshuam7552]

@zed4me 7:37 That amount of fluid drain from the first plug is normal. It is said that only a ''little'' will drain from removal of the first plug is to be expected--but thats never the case in my experience. A good amount should drain. When you pulled the leveling tube/ snorkel out; I'm sure if you isolated each amount, you would have more fluid that came out when you pulled the leveling tube than when you only pulled the main plug with the snorkel still in place. What you experienced is normal.

[@joebarglazie]

This is for DQ250 not for DQ381 ?

[@polo16v191]

Correct. On DQ381, it is slightly different (not possible to get filter without removing the battery and it is horizontal & not vertical

[@OleDowntime]

@7:33 passenger tires touching the ground driver's side on Jack stands. That's why so much came out. Your car wasn't level

[@achbanilacran2061]

:)))) if you had your car facing the other way, you could have lifted it frommthe front and have a looot more space to manoeuvre underneath! Just saying...

[@dannyzp]

How much does it cost to get a DSG service done at a dealer?

[@zed4me]

Heard a range of $300-800 depending if you get other services done. At face value, may seem expensive to buy the kit but if you already have the tools the cost for the fluid and filter comes out to less than $150

[@Napalm91]

$450 USD

[@ThatGuy-fd5px]

In the UK VW charges £199

[@jruerph]

$475 in Chicago

[@tedjohnson64]

$600 in Seattle, 2021.

[@laalaa99stl]

Cool tools. But it makes no sense to drop that kind of coin on a special kit that you'll use maybe twice during your entire lifetime owning the vehicle. I favor the top-fill (through the filter housing) method all the way. Measure how much comes out. Put exactly that much back in. Yes it's slower. Yes, you'll have to remove the battery. Deal with it. BTW. I also have that exact model of Schwaben power brake bleeder. The top is glued on. I have it reserved for brake fluid and brake fluid only. No way I want to risk mixing bake fluid with anything else! Now if I could rent those cool tools from an Autozone that might be another story.

[@zed4me]

I use this tool for many things so it wouldn't be twice but yeah if you're worried about contaminating fluid that can be a legitimate concern. I clean it up quite well after use, so it's not an issue.

[@gmax985]

@@zed4me hi Zed, great video, when you're done with the pump, what do you clean it with?

[@arturasnesakysiu1684]

He did it wrong car must run, soon he will have broken dsg gearbox read manual boy

[@joservicetech]

300+ for the kit LMAO, that's how much a reputable VAG shop charges for the whole service

[@zed4me]

That's fully loaded, it should cost about $150 for parts only if you have the tools

[@joservicetech]

@@zed4me yeah you're not including labor, space and storage space etc. You don't need to service your dsg every 5k miles either. Shelling out 300+ for shipping of the kit that just collects dust till the next 40k miles. Seems like a no brainier just to have someone do while you sit and watch. Oil changes thats a totally different story.

[@zed4me]

@@joservicetech like I said not 300+, especially without the almost $100 aluminum filter housings which you would obviously not get if you paid $300 for the service. Not to mention that's on the very low end of quotes I've seen. I prefer working on my own cars and a lot of other people do too. If this isn't for you that's cool, feel free to pay someone else to do the service.

[@joservicetech]

@@zed4me I love working on my car too. I've done all my oil changes, replaced my turbo, etc. But when all these sponsored videos are posted saying that it is worth it to purchase "such products" vs other options, all the facts need to be stated. These videos have a huge impact on other car owner's perception and ultimately leading to their decisions. If there was accurate information about products, then we would see less people selling their used parts, etc and forced to go another route.

[@MR-lq4zv]

Buy the tools and do it to it ! Get Your Millennial hands dirty . Or let A real Man put hands on Her!