Dumb War Tactics that Actually Worked

[@ironiccookies2320]

Another thing about Alesia: facing starvation, the women and children left the city hoping Caesar would open the gates for them. He didn't. And the city didn't want them back. And so those women and children died of starvation between the walls of the city and the Roman walls

[@karter969]

They were forced out by Vercingetorix. They didn’t leave on their own accord

[@matthiasthulman4058]

​@karter969 right, I believe he forced them out thinking the Romans would have to deal with them, which backfired and led to them watching their families and friends and countrymen starve. Kinda terrible, kinda awesome

[@haegger666]

don't try to rewrite history like with the slave trades or the crusades.... it was done by vercingetorix, as the others were saying, not because they wanted to.... they were expelled bc of food, water, other supplies and bc they weren't able to fight (therefore not all women though) so they would became a huge burdon over time for the gauls.... it was the only way for the encircled to survive, but it still wasn't enough, caesar was just too much of a tactician

[@zm1786]

@@matthiasthulman4058 ceasar said " they're your people, you take care of them"

[@matthiasthulman4058]

@@zm1786 I wish we could be as pragmatic today. We'd all be better off if we could just collectively be honest.

[@hoi-polloi1863]

"Yo Caesar, what's this wall for?" "It's to besiege Alesia. Duh." "So ... um ... what's this *other* wall for?" "It's to besiege the rest of Gaul!"

[@fenilkheni9494]

sounds something over simplified would say.

[@OGTK00]

The crazier thing is, there is a Historia Civilis video about this, when Caesar fought Pompey they both started building walls and raced each other who would finish the wall first. As far as I remember, Caesar also built a small fort and when the enemy took it, they built a smaller forth inside the forth, so that when it was attacked the soldiers didn't know what to do.

[@icy_lemonade742]

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[@SeriousHistory]

Thanks so much 🙏

[@goodluck8806]

agreed

[@hershekissed]

@@SeriousHistoryseriously!

[@Mark-d6u3m]

Feels like a big channel waiting to happen

[@Mexi1717]

He will blow up if he posts more often

[@MonkeySimius]

#2 Isn't true. It was made up by a Roman General well after Egypt was already conquered by Rome to make fun of their culture.

[@ammon46298]

I saw this comment right when #2 began.

[@jadedirk7233]

Came here to say this

[@kalord1251]

As Egyptian it actually True Please don't try this today 😂 we love cats and dogs alot

[@mandi8345]

@@kalord1251 They did paint the image on their shields (IIRC) but letting animals loose on the battlefield that could make things difficult for either side, if they didnt just fuck off right away...like cats would do...definitely didnt happen

[@Elgato1221]

3:20 no, that didn’t happen. That whole “cat battle” was made up by a Roman historian with questionable views on Egyptians hundreds of years after the fact

[@listerineclean9258]

@Elgato1221 I was gonna say the same thing, and I believe he was greek Polyaenus was his name, it just seems so unlikely an ibis or cat wouldn't run/fly away when the battle starts also the only copy of this account is that a copy from the 13th century which to my understanding is 11 centuries after he was around so who knows if any changes were made in that time

[@Elgato1221]

@@listerineclean9258 yah, he was a retired Macedonian general under the umbrella of the Roman Empire. (At least that’s what Wikipedia told me 😂)

[@listerineclean9258]

@@Elgato1221 yeah he was under the Roman umbrella and he dedicated the book on strategies which this story comes from to Roman Emporer Marcus Aureilius and Lucius verus who were fighting the Roman Parthian war at the time

[@Elgato1221]

@@listerineclean9258 yah, that’s what I read too. But I’m and ignorant dushe-bag so I’m just gunna call him a Roman 😂

[@listerineclean9258]

@@Elgato1221 hahahaha I like that, I like to think I'm a well read ignorant douche bag

[@skrahnha]

Flaming camels against elephants is reminiscent of Macedon's use of flaming pigs against elephants. I wonder if he was aware of that or just came up with the idea of flaming animals independently

[@амбалТоварищ]

385th subscriber, dude I get the feeling this page is going to blow up.

[@vladthecon]

12.7k subs 3 months later

[@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV]

And prove useful the elephants Timur took with him after the battle did. In the 1402 battle of Ankara, where the Timurid and Ottoman Empires and their respective vassals and exiled allies clashed, Timur had a unit of 32 elephants with him. However, he wouldn't use them until near the end of the battle, after the Ottoman forces, despite being under pressure and on the backfoot, managed to restabilize their line. Timur then ordered the elephant crews to charge the Ottoman centre, and any Timurid units in the way got out on time. The Ottoman janissaries somehow managed to survive the elephant charge, and most of the elephants died of the many wounds they received fighting the Ottomans, while the rest fled the battlefield after having broken through into the Ottomans' rear, but the damage was done, as up to half of the Ottoman forces that fought the elephant charge lay dead or dying. Right on cue, the Timurid centre re-engaged and the last Timurid reserves were sent to bolster the attack on the crushed centre and wavering Ottoman left. With that, Timurid victory was all but guaranteed, and, indeed, many Ottoman forces fled, some fought their way out and the rest were all killed or captured, including sultan Bayezid, the youngest 2 of his 5 sons, wife, the governor of Anatolia and several vassal lords, like at least one of the three Branković brothers that ruled the southwestern parts of Serbia

[@Makofueled]

This was also the end of the great Bayezid-Timur flame war, where they wrote letters to each other like two people fighting on twitter, with banger quotes like the below. "Sure enough, all you do is break promises and vows, shed blood, and violate the honor of women. I will make it brief. Our whole business here and the bulk of our affairs are to fight the enemies of religion, be they kafir or apostates. Now, (after reading this letter) if you do not come here, may your wives be irreversibly divorced from you. But if head out to my country, and I run away from you and do not meet you in battle, then of course, may my wives be irreversibly divorced. Peace to all Muslims. God damn you and all your followers till judgement day."

[@PenguinTvPH]

one of the best battles in the ottoman history, imagine serbian shock cavalry against india elephants, just sad cuz bayezid THE THUNDERBOLT technically died in that battle, hes one of my favorite sultans

[@sjohnson8505]

0:38 MF flipped me off.... I respect that

[@ergon2887]

Timurs army wasnt riding camels they rode horses. Camels were used for logistics.

[@rocoo9611]

Bro is underrated he needs more credit

[@glorrriiiaaaa]

underrated!! your content is amazing

[@SeriousHistory]

Thanks so much

[@clixoer]

Here before you blow up bro

[@izaactheberean6860]

The Vikings didn't wear those helmets with horns.

[@einfacheiner1659]

🤓

[@MrBarborosa]

I'm sure he knows that

[@411smiths]

00:17😂didn't expect that

[@chloeleo]

2 mistakes, shields were never painted for psychological warfare against the Egyptians, the first historical mention of it comes several hundred years after the battle, there is a source who’s name I don’t remember that does not mention anything like that around 100 years after the battle. The 2nd mistake is way more minor but Caesar salad is not named after Julius Caesar, off the top of my head it was first made in the 20th century

[@aaronfarner1029]

Did you watch bj peach cobbler too? Because I was saying the same thing

[@aaronfarner1029]

lol you also got the same name as my wife how crazy

[@genovayork2468]

*whose, *minor, *. Learn basic language rules before embarrassing yourself.

[@Drpepperspray1010]

⁠​⁠​⁠really doesn’t help with his credibility when he can’t even figure out how grammar works and comments from the top of his head without remembering any sources

[@taiyoqun]

Hey, first of all I don't agree with the sentiment of the other comments, I'm just here to discuss, not belittle what you've expressed or you as a person. Basically, while I agree with the sentiment that secondary sources are rarely reliable, we can't outright deny their validity. Specially since saying now it didn't happen becomes tertiary source, muddying the waters even further. Basically we can't say it happened but we can't be sure it didn't either, and in the absence of primary source (which isn't always reliable either), there's still an argument to be made that a person a hundred years later is more reliable than someone nowadays. And about the salad, I have no idea about this topic (I'll investigate in a moment), but just because it was created recently doesn't mean it wasn't named after Cesar, that's a leap of logic. Edit: it was indeed named after a dude also named Caesar, so you were right. But that doesn't deny my point, being created in the 1920's is not argument enough to argue it wasn't named after Julius, so your logic there was a bit lacking (even if, once again, you were absolutely right in the conclusion, you probably knew the truth but lacked the info to make a sounder argument, so your head provided a weaker one knowing the conclusion was justified) About the people insulting you and your arguments, screw yourselves. At least OP said something, expressing your ideas at the expense of being wrong is braver than insulting someone's grammar or credibility without addressing their actual thoughts. Second edit: I didn't even read your comment right, I thought you said the source with the paintings was 100 years later and I somehow missed the point about another source not mentioning it. Maybe don't listen to me, I'm kinda stupid. Well, rather be wrong and say something stupid than not say anything at all. Third edit because I'm actually really really stupid: I got to the part in the video about the salad, now I get what you actually meant. Maybe this is why people don't bother discussing and just insult, because it's really easy to demonstrate your stupidity when you actually say things. To be fair giving credit to Caesar was obviously a joke, and the way you said it made me think the video claimed it was named after him, not invented by. I could delete the comment entirely by this point, but I might as well leave an example of how to argue: say your thing and then admit it if you were wrong, instead of going "bad grammar + didn't have the sources memorised, so you're wrong"

[@judechauhan6715]

9:22 because people in the past weren't idiots, they just didn't have the same information we do

[@наномасюнисынок]

ye, wait until he hears about preparations and logistics behind the Colosseum in the early first milennium

[@RodolfoGaming]

Hannibal's oxen guided escape out of ager falernus is my personal favorite

[@mangarajatyangsa]

can't wait until a million subs in the future

[@nafg115]

KZbin do your thing and start sharing this masterpiece with more people pls.

[@VinnyMcGuire-vo4sf]

The Punic wars are crazyyyy shout out over simplified

[@diamondpascual5697]

This channel is so underrated, I love this channel

[@wfadf1565]

Excellent video, subscribed Correction: Ceasar built the second wall around the first one, not within it

[@Biodeamon]

the line between genius and insanity is thinner than AP flechette rounds. but the dudes who fell for a literal trojan horse learned a harsh lesson about charity that day.

[@platinumxv]

I love the animation style, you deserve a lot more subscribers!

[@BergenDev]

All the characters look like the Habsburg family lol

[@CarterLafleur-ml7df]

👏👏👏👏👏 another masterpiece from the great history himself

[@drawer_resp3858]

9:22 As a southeast Asian, I don't understand why he thinks training elephants are insane while camels and horses are use widely for millennias. And people still trained elephants today. Do you think that people started training elephants during industrial revolution to help with machines or in the 2000s to help them code???

[@WayanMajere]

I didn't get that comment either. Elephants are expensive (or were expensive at least) but they aren't harder to train than camels.

[@JohnDoeWasntTaken]

It's because elephants are so much more dangerous than camels. Especially back then when we hardly knew much about their psychology and behavioral habits. So to tame such a dangerous and large animal is impressive compared to taming camels and horses. As a southeast Asian I assume you know about the elephant rampages that have occurred in India, imagine taming an animal like that compared to a camel.

[@Puget55]

Philippe Auguste from France used the double siege of Caesar to win against Richard Lionheart's best castle, Chateau Gaillard.

[@berkaykayaseker9734]

Timurids main army consisted of horse archers, not camel cavalry. They were mostly for transportation and Timur chained them together in a line before setting them off and they run as one big fire chamber.

[@ethanmesina7121]

Roman flag against the Carthaginians during the Punic wars should not be represented with the Chi-Rho symbol; that doesn’t come until close to 600 years later

[@genovayork2468]

He used India's flag for Delhi, what do you expect?

[@yorusan007]

Elephants were controlled with an iron spike to their scalp which might be painful to them. Cruel mthod but still used in rural area to ride elephants.

[@steakcrust558]

Ah yes. Caesar made his famous salad about 1900 years later and also it was in Mexico

[@stormtrooper74]

#2 - they didn’t paint on their shields, and didn’t have cats running around the front lines. They straight-up nailed living cats to their shields.

[@lynnleigha580]

Why does that stick figure guy keep flipping me the bird?! 😂😂😂

[@vbrown4610]

Lmao I thought I was the only one who noticed 😂

[@gansuldtumursukh8043]

Keep it goin mane your content is so good

[@mementomori771]

No not Hasting Koifish must have bribed you

[@michelebattaggia8685]

The second circumvallation wall tactic was not dumb at all. Starting from the 17th it was used almost in every actual siege of a fortress to defend the siegers from eventual outside attacks. Ceasar was a precursor of the scientific siegecraft.

[@ethanhoward389]

Watch "blue jay was wrong" by dj peach cobbler please

[@RedSkyrkw]

That whole cat thing is a myth btw

[@decker528]

So are the pig war and bucket war from the very beginning of the video

[@RedSkyrkw]

@@decker528 probably one of the best examples of why we shouldn’t believe these uneducated KZbinrs, even when it isn’t intentionally malicious it still is irresponsible.

[@muntTV]

​@@RedSkyrkw yeah. People have parroted incorrect stuff for ages. If you're watching this kinda content you're likely here for a story not a historical education. Some random KZbinrs do amazing justice to history. Make sure they list sources if you're gonna spout it as fact and please read the last republican if you like history and Rome. I needed to include that.

[@muntTV]

Also I'm guessing the Persian cat thing was a Herodotus story but I haven't googled yet. Just spreading more misinformation.

[@DarkbugC]

Or is it 'Meowth'

[@PlaidMasterBoots]

Subbed, Bell, and Liked. Keep it up bud!

[@SeriousHistory]

Thank you!

[@AlmirBegovic-i9c]

The Roman's really said if I can beat you on land bring the land part on boats

[@e.a.b.k7048]

Subscriber 389! There is always space for more quality history content and this makes the list ❤

[@WestProter]

I watched this with my cat while eating a Caesar salad.

[@mohamadakbarzadeh1255]

I thought Nader set camels on fire on his conquest in India.

[@coopernut]

I really like the inflatable fake tanks in WW2

[@joshuawayneyork]

"Meowsaccred"🤣😭

[@aronsmaouth1181]

Just got subed I wish you a good start

[@SeriousHistory]

Thank you so much 🙏

[@DavidLogan0]

Bro keep it up 1k by the end of feb im sure of it :)

[@maxiawesomekid899]

Absloutenutcase is probably gonna come

[@Kugorusan]

if it worked then it’s actually ironically genius

[@antonkrastev8719]

How the Trojan Horse didn't make it to the list is beyond me

[@RizzyTizzyLando]

Subbed. Unbelievable that I found this channel. Great work 👍🏻

[@SeriousHistory]

Thanks so much 🙏

[@MF1387-w3c]

5th was Nadershah bro . Not timur . (Nader came hundreds of years after timur , but he also ete india )

[@drawgoood]

awesome channel❤

[@davidtownsend6092]

Another Sam o nella. Except with less talent and more glasses.

[@micahjoo9879]

9:47 *adjusts glasses* uhm- awctually, the elephants were technically venomous and not poisonous. ☝🏽🤓

[@RatDragon91]

Damn you nitpicking bastards. Leave the guy alone

[@Mao14.88]

Dis channel da best for anything historical for a lemon like me

[@benjaminfuller4667]

That was worth a sub

[@jeremy9416]

The Romans be like * We need to find a way to fight land battles. On the sea. *Hold my scutum

[@Ka2009Fa]

3:21 that was nabukatnazer the second of babylon

[@shadowdragonlord2295]

The line between crazy and genius is thin.

[@ypvsypvs]

This is make belief most of it...

[@Geova-zb3ri]

The cat thing is a myth I believe

[@PetruApostolL]

Hey man, who's the guy behind the animations? I wanna contact him.

[@M1ssgu1ded]

He is

[@umutberdan7690]

So you decide them to be dumb not the generals who lived in that time.

[@u.b.5773]

Talks about India of 14th century and shows map of 600 BC. 😮‍💨

[@VICTORIOUS_SECRETS]

Uhm your so underrated. I had to go hunting for people who had ugly and gore characters like yours keep it up I love you ❤❤

[@karlilinux]

the cat one is just ancient racism, most likely no real thing with the cats on the battlefield

[@leydidiaz2375]

Oh i know bjorn ironside from the first story hes a commander in rise of kingdoms (yes i actually got intrested in downloading rise of kingdoms)

[@krell2130]

A war tactics video aimed at 4 year olds, amazing!

[@ShavarioSenior]

I'm a cat person so I'm healthy

[@ndpan7298]

If it is stupid but it works, then it isnt stupid

[@garrishthehunter4173]

So, like when is the Total War Flaming Camel Update coming out?

[@WayanMajere]

Romans used flaming pigs for the same effect which was in Rome: Total War

[@cerebrofromroguelites2967]

I'd totally buy Civ 7 if it has flaming camels and elephants with poisonous tusks

[@spencer1980]

No, these people are just crazy. I definitely hate both sides of this (one is obviously worse tho)

[@thespacecube1962]

3:45 its not stupid. Its genius and craisy at the same time.

[@arup.p]

Great video! you should increase the volume of yourself tho.... it's very low

[@awesomeryan0632]

Cool video

[@DieLuftwaffel]

Where did you find that pronunciation of Vercingetorix?

[@dasmensch2317]

Nice vid

[@kev-la-kill9673]

* Watching video by a channel called "Serious History" *"BCE" said >Why are normies like this?

[@GG-mr6cq]

?

[@8yourpets]

Yeah, a bunch of cats and random animals stayed on the battlefield and further, charged at the enemy. Do you honestly believe that they caltured a bunch of animals and held them in reserve in the blind hope that the animals would not only not run once released, but head towards the enemy? That is one of the stupidest misconceptions in history and it gets blindly repeated by people that dont bother to think about what they are saying.

[@romanedwards5139]

Fr a worthy middle name for a baby girl

[@l0os176]

6:27 "Hohe von Bussy"

[@zacharyhumphries1707]

Generally speaking if a tactic worked than it wasn't dumb.

[@muntTV]

It could definitely be dumb if it had a very small chance of working but did anyway. If you decided a full frontal assault on an enemy with superior numbers and defensive positioning and it worked inexplicably, it's still dumb

[@zacharyhumphries1707]

@@muntTV I stand by my comment. If that frontal charge worked and dispersed the enemy.... It wasn't dumb. It might have seemed dumb, might have looked dumb on paper... but it worked. The opposite happens all the time as well. Someone comes up with an idea that sounds smart, looks smart on paper.... and when put into practice doesn't work at all. Even though it seemed like it seemed smart and like a good idea.... no.... it was stupid.

[@Cherno-Tekknobyl]

Isn't this the voice of How To Beat Anime?

[@totaltrashmammal3050]

reminder that caesar isn’t pronounced “see zer” and is pronounced “kai zar”

[@Misiulo]

Vikings with horns? Dude...!

[@Brokenenglishspeaker]

Who cares

[@Misiulo]

@@Brokenenglishspeaker I mean its not like this vid is meant to teach history or anything

[@Misiulo]

@@Brokenenglishspeaker Hell I could forgive the horns, it's a meme. But, it just feels like the author didn't give crap ;>

[@markfreenick]

They was horny

[@witheredrose110]

10:18 bro became butcher for a sec

[@Wordbird69]

Ver-kin-jet-er-icks

[@john0doesnt]

Man those flags at 4:40 💀

[@joyg95]

What about them?

[@john0doesnt]

@@joyg95 the roman empire flag of the video is depicting the christian insigna

[@bottleflaskan802]

Sweden has never been in a war

[@PastaSenp]

I mean arnt they at war with like there rape rate

[@bottleflaskan802]

@@PastaSenp no the government approves it and encourages them to do it

[@captainkatz1775]

awww yeahhhh

[@Imperialmonke]

Timur mentioned?

[@Mrmidknight-yx9pg]

Hannibal?

[@mohitroyy8291]

Are u related to chat history?

[@LoungeThoughts]

You should do a part two of this and add the battle of agincourt with king Henry V PLEASE I WILL SUBSCRIBE

[@mjml6238]

Nader shah do this too

[@mohammadfallah4385]

Bro the camels was naders doing not teymor

[@Acespex]

That was ragnar

[@favdoggie]

is this how to beat anime's brother or what?