SLIP TEST - Dacia Duster 4WD vs Jeep Renegade Active Drive -

[@TheKruxed]

That Jeep was very impressive, the best by far I've seen on your rollers

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

The Kruxed Indeed, Renegade and Cherokee are so far the fastest. However I am not sure if such setup of awd system is the best, wheel spin is necessary in many conditions. I will try to compare it during winter on some icy hill.

[@Tomaskii]

Got Renegade 170hp A9 last december. Best 4x4 yet. Better than old Cherokee, old j.liberty 3.7, Saab turboX xwd, eklasse 4matic, new Hilux, Hyundai kona, old wrangler... Under 1.5 tons, fast, under 8L/100kms

[@DILINGER0]

For the price Duster is quite impressive too. The tradition and knowledge making off road cars, is a big adventage for any Jeep.

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

If that's the best you've seen on rollers you haven't seen much. Go look at the TFL vw touareg. Zero wheelspin. Same with land rover. The jeep actually did far worse than I expected. In fact, these two are the worst I've seen. Especially the Dacia.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Touareg and Land Rover have two diff lockers. It can't be compared to traction control systems. And I am afraid that it is you who havent's seen much if you think that these ones here are the worst ;) Result of Jeep is indeed one of the best if we consider this kind of awd system.

[@ExtremSyndicate]

I like the Forester in the background thinking 'Bitch please!' xD

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

That Forester was waiting for its turn, it was tested next after Duster 🙂

[@efone3553]

Its important to note that the jeep tested is not the Trailhawk version. The trailhawk is designed for offroading and would have done much better I believe

[@JussimirPasold]

The 4x4 system in the trailhawk is pretty much the same as the as the standard jeep renegade, only difference is that it have the "Rock Mode".. the main offroad differences in the trailhawk version are others not the 4x4 system

[@valerii1803]

Hello. I have a useful desire. I believe that the same tests should be carried out, but on the mountain, because on a flat road it is very simple and almost every car can handle it. In this way, you will increase the load during the tests. But if you imagine real conditions, for example, swamp or snow, then the car will not be as easy as on dry asphalt.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

These tests are much more difficult than they look - there are tens of cars which cannot pass them all. Difficulty comes from construction of rollers, here's an explanation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXOWZIZvn8qAeLs

[@guidodalla]

grazie del test ragazzi !!

[@berkcangul7177]

Good job, thx!

[@vitexplorator4928]

Could you please test the New Duster model ? Comparison would be better ... and fair !

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Vitex Plorator I am looking for volunteer with new Duster. And what is unfair here?

[@vitexplorator4928]

Good to know, are you sure the new Duster did not adopt the last Nissan AWD? Electronics can easily make the difference. You're also comparing two cars, one costing quite twice as much as the other ... But thanks for your tests !

[@vitexplorator4928]

.... I have two 4WD cars, a Jaguar XE 180D 2016 and a Mini Countryman Cooper S 2017. Could you try (and succeed) testing them. I am very curious ...

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Vitex Plorator I don't know if know Duster got the same software and electronics that Nissan... I forgot to mention about prices - you are right, but here is another example of two cars, where one costs three or for times more than another: kzbin.info/www/bejne/govNpJxseMiAna8 When it comes to Countryman - I am also trying to find a volunteer...

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Vitex Plorator New Duster tested, video coming soon!

[@hakunamatata6464]

is throttle input the same? you appear to feather the Jeep while clearly appear harder on the Dacia.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

It's different. Jeep reacts immediately at low throttle, Dacia needs more rpm.

[@Nick.Magg13]

The driver in the jeep is better than the guy who drives the duster. The driver in the duster push the gas pedal very hard and that is totally wrong...the driver in the renegade push the gas pedal with very little strength and the car balance as it needs to unclimb the rollers....

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Maggioros Nikos Beccaccia hunting Epagneul Breton Funny, I got tens of comments that driver in Duster is not pushing gas pedal hard enough. The truth is that both drivers did everything correct, it is reaction of cars that was different.

[@rdu5883]

I have the renegade. If it loses traction you can floor it and the car will cut power and grab the brakes to send power to the wheel with traction without excessive spinning. Probably not the driver

[@ciprian4762]

Hi. Very nice and thorough tests. Could you test with Duster2? Cheers!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Ciprian Hi, thanks. I am looking for volunteer with Duster 2...

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Ciprian New Duster tested, video coming soon!

[@ciprian4762]

duszaniespokojna, thanks a lot for your efforts! it will be interesting to see if indeed there is a difference between the software of Duster1 and Duster2. keep up the very nice and consistent 4x4 videos.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Ciprian Video coming on Monday evening! kzbin.info/www/bejne/omjSZ6itbrJ-r7M

[@gdodera]

I want to see a Jimny

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Gastón Dodera There are tests of previous generation on my channel. If you want new one - coming in December.

[@kore_eon]

Me too😁

[@nikolaivanov8346]

Great video! For the Renegade, what kind of head unit you are using? It has menus that mine doesn't have.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@nikolaivanov8346 Thanks. It was stock menu which was available some years ago, later on it disappeared.

[@and_rew9768]

Jeep Renegade very best with a fantastic Multijet engine ❤🔝🏆🥇👏💪

[@cornelhansen-juhas1971]

Nice 👍👍👍👍 both of..

[@amongt2]

jeep is on another level of car, and price, not comparable. jeep is one of the better of the world in its segment, dacia is the cheapest of the segment

[@amongt2]

@Alex Voinea you have less. Dacia is less than Jeep. Dacia is more quality respect the price. But in 360 degree is less than a renegade. And you pay less for less. Drive a dacia or a jeep is VERY different. Sorry for my English

[@SXsoft99]

Excluding the price both of them enter the same car class/group small SUV,

[@KDH5010]

Świetna robota, jak zawsze. Próbowałeś szukać ochotnika z nowym Dusterem na forach?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Mastertoon Dzięki :-) Cały czas szukam ochotnika z nowym Dusterem...

[@PierluigiBarile]

Interesting... Where can I buy those rollers?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Pierluigi Barile They are DIY :)

[@stephanx2384]

Just goes to show that the Renegade is superior in every possible way! The Duster is a cheap ass piece of junk. Crappy build quality, sucky interior and less than impressive driving. I Test drove one and it was the most embarassing thing ever. Wouldn't wanna be caught dead in such an inferior piece of crap. I own a Renegade and off road it just rules. Even in harsh winter conditions and with just all season tires it didn't even blink once. Outstanding.

[@johnfrench6144]

I agree , totally.

[@RadhakrishnanMudliar]

Just found your video. Checking if Jeep compass multijet 2.0 4x4 9AT IS TESTED

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Only 1.4T 9AT kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmnagYeGbs9lr5I

[@sorinjiga]

Can u test Land Rover Discovery 3?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Probably in 2019.

[@mushupat]

I believe you've taken into account that Duster's simulated diff lock kicks in north of 2-2,5K rpm?..

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Without simulated diff locks it wouldn't get out at all.

[@mushupat]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes, I know, but it looks like the Duster's driver is reluctant to push it beyond the point of diff lock RPMs. It may be illusory, but that's what it looks like from the outside (on the video).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@mushupat If he wasn't pushing it to a level of traction control intervention, he would be stuck. Other thing is that the system is cutting and regulating the throttle when slippage is detected.

[@albotellonazo]

Qué bien funciona Jeep

[@luizrrodrigues]

hum, this screen in Renegade showing 4WD system was from old version, my 2021 TH haven't this screen :/

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Maybe you can get it as an option?

[@luizrrodrigues]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers No sure, I'm from Brazil and buy the TH with all option available :/

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@luizrrodrigues What does TH mean, is it 4xe?

[@luizrrodrigues]

RENEGADE TRAILHAWK 2.0 TURBO 4X4 DIESEL

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@luizrrodrigues Oh I missed that abbreviation. Maybe that was some software for Europe, I don't know. Try to ask the dealer.

[@muss20071]

Please test evo x

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

muss20071 It is very hard to find a volunteer with such car...

[@muss20071]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I have evo x, but i don't have rollers

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

muss20071 Come to me for a test :)

[@muss20071]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers it's very hard, because i live in the Crimea :)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

muss20071 At least there is no ocean between Crimea and Poland, you can drive ;) So far I tested only Lancer Ralliart, but that's different awd system at the back.

[@normt5463]

Renegade Trakhawk in the U.S ?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Norm T Who are you asking and what is your question?

[@vik4487]

it's fucking made in Italy bro, Pomigliano factory in Naples.

[@manuelminezzi7825]

@@vik4487 Renegade factory in Melfi, not Naples ....

[@MrPorter1983]

Czemu Daster nie poradził sobie z 3x1 ?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Software nie jest w stanie ogarnąć takiej sytuacji.

[@sandis7915]

For duster, although ESP off during the test, EDL not work properly In manual book mention that EDL will work when ESP off??? Why??

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Romiko Rosandi Why do you think that EDL is not working properly? EDL works with ESP off, in such setup there is no cut off engine torque.

[@sandis7915]

duszaniespokojna with 3 rollers duster looks hard to go forward compare with renegade can easily handle the rollers. Did the ESP light flick on during test with ESP off on duster?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Romiko Rosandi The most important test is on two rollers. I don't know if the light was blinking with ESP off, in other cars it is.

[@brandonwright2067]

Keep made it look easy

[@beaviccoon470]

Autocorrect: Jeep made it look easy

[@Cainori]

Its by design in 1x3 on Duster, you never have 3 wheels in the air in reality, and the Duster benefits from surface friction.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Cainori Not in the air, but in unusual conditions three wheels may have no traction like on ice pads. Very rare, but possible. What do you mean by benefits from surface friction?

[@stephanx2384]

Maybe, but you could have one or two wheels in the air with little to nine friction on the others...

[@francescomallozzi4775]

ho una jeep renegade e ne sono contentissimo ma mi pento di non aver preso la 4x4

[@paranoic4rap]

looks to me that there are different drivers, the guy on the duster accelerates too much. neverthlesss, jeep is a much better car.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Jeep reacts immediately, no need for high acceleration. Duster needs more rpm to react.

[@ChristosChronopoulos]

Jeep forever

[@balintkatona4562]

Renegade superiore 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹

[@ninooooo2128]

All these Dacia duster owners trying to find excuses to protect their cars. Haha

[@amongt2]

a 1990 panda 4x4 is a lot more reliable than a dacia, and have better off road potential, or snow street ones.

[@amongt2]

@Alex Voinea why a dacia is more reliable than a jeep? dacia have a cheaper renault component. not exactly one example in the world

[@ninooooo2128]

Alex Voinea the Dacia owners always use the same excuse “but the Dacia is cheap therefore it’s better than any other car!”

[@pauldavison7105]

@@amongt2 I'm not an owner of either but know enough to know Jeep are junk.

[@pauldavison7105]

@@amongt2 a 1990 panda would be more reliable than most modern cars as its basically an engine in a tin box. Not enough stuff on it to go wrong

[@4thewin783]

pls test the Fiat toro vs duster.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

4THEWIN Toro is not available in Europe...

[@4thewin783]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers T_T

[@rusMusDie]

ESP off helps. You must repeat several previous experiments when you didn't pay attention on it.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Igor Which ones?

[@LukStyle1985]

Seguramente no han rodado unos metros con el bloqueo de diferencial activado, ese coche lo necesita para engranar.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

These cars do not have diff locks.

[@LukStyle1985]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers tengo un xtrail t31 con el mismo sistema y sale de esa prueba, solo necesita unos metros para activarse, pruébalo y verás que estoy en lo cierto

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@LukStyle1985 Nope, you are not right. Here's test of T31: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a52nkpqGrLaig8k

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

​@@LukStyle1985X-Trail doesn't have any mechanically locking diffs. Front and rear are open, center is not even a diff but a clutch pack. LOCK mode is just a different programming, there's nothing that needs driving a few metres, there's nothing that needs mechanical engagement like traditional diff lockers.

[@romariofreitas8346]

Of road Duster!

[@johnfrench6144]

That is why you jeep , and don't datsia

[@rayden4327]

new DUSTER DCI plz :)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Ray Den Video coming on Monday evening! kzbin.info/www/bejne/omjSZ6itbrJ-r7M

[@MagicMike87]

Dziwne gdyby jeep przegrał tutaj z dacią.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Funky Monk Powiem tak - ten film zmontowałem w związku z ogromem zarzutów, że kierowca Dustera za mało "gazował". Test jasno pokazuje, że dla niektórych systemów nie ma to znaczenia, wystarczy minimalnie powyżej obrotów jałowych...

[@Tomaskii]

Zarzutów od dusterowców😎 o oszustwa przy badaniu trakcji? Wariaci? Jezdzilem tym czymś, sorry ale nie uda mi się inaczej nazwać, gdy szukałem małego dostawczaka. Logan był najgorszy i padło na jumpy. Z SUVów duster również najgorszy i zamiast na x1 padło na Renegade. Lepiej wybrać nie mogłem, bo gdy od grudnia zrobiłem Renegade 11kkm równocześnie jeżdżę wszystkim gdyż wciąż szukam małego, kolejnego, SUVa do leasingu. Stonic, x2, q2, q3, x1, kona, sportage, i inne. Dopiero x3, e-pace, xc40, q5 i temu podobnie kosztujące byłyby fajne do jazdy, ale to mój pełny Renegade+70k PLN...

[@test1uci]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers no właśnie się zastanawiam czy przypadkiem gdyby Duster miał mocniejszy silnik nie wypadł by lepiej.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

test1uci Jest w sieci test wersji 1.5 dci, wynik taki sam. Edit: w poniedziałek o 18:00 będzie chat oraz nowy test - porównanie napędu Dustera 2018 z poprzednią generacją, obydwa w wersji 1.6

[@axulnnn9719]

Stuck dacia duster

[@jairantonioolivatto5712]

Tá bom i dai

[@Квадролёт-74]

Дастер отличный проходимец.

[@_Pretender]

Но Ренегаде лучший!)

[@Uge1802]

Actually the guy is driving very differently each car so not a good vs video

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Actually the system is taking control and that's why you see different behaviour of the systems.

[@cornelcon5267]

I thought Suzuki Ignis is the most horrible car from Galaxy.. I was wrong,the trophy goes to Jeep Renegade 🙄

[@cipri8336]

And you are the most idiot man from Galaxy

[@raulgalindo1166]

Jeep es 💪💪💪🇪🇸🇪🇸

[@СергейА-ц6х]

Дастер лучше по одной причине - он у меня есть))

[@БогданРосол-у8ы]

А у меня ренегат)))

[@ak.romasudvigilanzazoofila6316]

w la jeepppppp

[@antonioseminara6827]

Duster.

[@Biaigio]

Duster is a 1998 Clio with wedding dress...Ahhahaaahhhahh . Just for your info..... you have to pay more than 15K€ for this machine surrogate.

[@sinihmz1210]

Jeep vs cartoon car

[@justmenell3380]

i wanna see the same driver on both cars...:))) what i see is irrelevant...

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

How do you think, who knows the car better? "The same driver" or the owner of the car?

[@maiconfiaminghi123]

Só na gringa que o Renegade funciona bem, pq aqui no Brasil eles só passam vergonha

[@marcosm8049]

Vídeo mentiroso

[@marcosm8049]

A duster é bem melhor.

[@joaovitorbrito7169]

Na verdade é que no Brasil o povo é muito ignorante e não manja nada, o sistema AWD é o mesmo kkkkkkk

[@lavrnjadragan]

Guys, beside the fact that you have got a very interesting idea, what makes people interested in watching your video(s), everything else is prety dumb, and let me explain why… As an experienced owner (and driver) of one Dacia Duster 1.5 dci 4x4 model, I can surely claim that guys you gave Duster to drive are all but experienced 4x4 or all wheel drivers. Do I have to mention the idea of comparing gasoline to diesel models in some of your videos? Is it needed to mention clearly visible favoring of other models and lowering the Duster’s potentials by on roller maneuvering left and right to keep Duster as long as possible on rollers, but letting other models to escape it by climbing aside. And there are many more dumb things you do in your “testing”. So please do it right, or don’t do it at all.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Dragan Lavrnja OK, that is your opinion which I do not agree. Me, cause we are not "guys". Just me and my gf behind cameras. Private, hobby channel. Gasoline vs diesel - and what is the problem? There is not much torque needed in roller tests, I made video which shows it. Favoring other model? Give me one reason for that. I don't care about the results of tests at all. And I like Duster, I was even considering to purchase it. And I get tens of comments that Subaru paid me, Audi paid me, Jeep paid me, aliens paid me etc. Boring, but as the creator of channel I have to respond. Left/right maneuvering - yes, to keep the car on rollers if it is moving to the sides. And moving to the sides doesn't help (there is also video which shows that). But I also get tens of comments that cars should not do it, so now I am behind the camera and I show the driver which side should he turn the steering wheel. And of course I get tens of comments that it is helping to pass the test, exactly the opposite of other opinions... Some cars instantly move forward or torque steer is close to zero that there is no need to move the steering wheel, but Duster was not one of them. So if you want to comment this way, ask about the details first. Or don't comment at all.

[@ronclivio7874]

Stupid test. Take them off road so the Duster will look really bad.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Any arguments or just a stupid comment?

[@tonytony6948]

Fake, Dacia The Best 😍