5 Rules You Didn't Know Were In The Rulebook | Yu-Gi-Oh!

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@Dzeeff
@Dzeeff 4 жыл бұрын
It seems like a few viewers are having audio issues around the 7:25 mark in this video. I watched the original file and didn't hear anything, and on my computer I couldn't hear anything weird, either. I think it's on KZbin's end, sorry!
@questrequested9171
@questrequested9171 4 жыл бұрын
it was fine for me
@MementoMihi.
@MementoMihi. 4 жыл бұрын
I heard it on my phone. Between 7:00 and 8:00 the voiceover has a bit of static. Not too loud, but it is there. Not sure if it's the same on computers or tvs
@SomeCleverAlias
@SomeCleverAlias 4 жыл бұрын
I'm also getting static sounds around that part of the video.
@LunarWingCloud
@LunarWingCloud 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was my earbuds, that's okay, can't help what KZbin does to your video, still a good watxh
@chrisbelair5916
@chrisbelair5916 4 жыл бұрын
3:35 Will you do it for my birthday on the 27th of this month?
@nibirutheprimalbeing3765
@nibirutheprimalbeing3765 4 жыл бұрын
Petition for dzeeff to read the Yugioh rulebook for content.
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams 4 жыл бұрын
Going over changes in the rule books would be pretty neat.
@weresorrow8671
@weresorrow8671 4 жыл бұрын
Dzeef ASMR
@PhantomHavok
@PhantomHavok 4 жыл бұрын
I need this.
@Dzeeff
@Dzeeff 4 жыл бұрын
Please no
@AllHailNannerpuss
@AllHailNannerpuss 4 жыл бұрын
It has to be the one from Starter Deck Yugi/Kiaba. Fusion Deck and Remove from Play are essential terminology 🙏🙏🙏
@mechamunchygone6630
@mechamunchygone6630 4 жыл бұрын
Cheating?!?! No, no, no. Anime Tactics. 😏
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the JoJo method: "If the enemy is cheating, simply cheat harder than them."
@critormiss6084
@critormiss6084 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakim5240 all fun and games till you get to part six.
@Neko_Medic
@Neko_Medic 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakim5240 a year later, but imma stop you right there: that's the Tiger Mask method.
@Mr.Angel1996
@Mr.Angel1996 Жыл бұрын
Infinity +1
@quantumkitsune5661
@quantumkitsune5661 4 жыл бұрын
"If I have to read the rulebook to play a game, the game isn't well-designed" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
@sapphirewine7470
@sapphirewine7470 4 жыл бұрын
Totally, by that logic would chess be a poorly designed game? Since by looking at the pieces you cant figure out how the game works, let alone castling or more advanced things.
@johnapple6646
@johnapple6646 4 жыл бұрын
Well Chess has no rulebook
@tritojean7549
@tritojean7549 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnapple6646 well rulebook is a book with rules in it so chess does have that
@tritojean7549
@tritojean7549 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed if you can play a game without reading the rules that game is just too simple not well design.
@MagnakayViolet
@MagnakayViolet 4 жыл бұрын
That guy must have forgotten how difficult it was to play children games with salty kids who change the rules just to make it harder for anyone to win.
@nintenx1235
@nintenx1235 4 жыл бұрын
“What most players don’t understand about yugioh!” *reads entire rule book*
@jayheizu4844
@jayheizu4844 4 жыл бұрын
You think players are going to read the rule book when they don’t even read the card effects.
@swishersnaaake8208
@swishersnaaake8208 4 жыл бұрын
Monopoly Auction Rule: If you mention it, everyone thinks you're crazy. If you point to it in the rules, everyone thinks you're an asshole.
@laytonjr6601
@laytonjr6601 4 жыл бұрын
It shorters games for me because players bid absurd amount of money every time xD
@swishersnaaake8208
@swishersnaaake8208 4 жыл бұрын
@@laytonjr6601 I think that was the intent of the rule, to speed up the game so people get property more quickly. Plus it more closely matches a real economy. But it seems the rule complicates the game too much for most people.
@Kristjan0209
@Kristjan0209 3 жыл бұрын
The only one of those house rules we used was the free parking one because it was fun even though we knew it was not a real rule
@BainesMkII
@BainesMkII 3 жыл бұрын
@@laytonjr6601 I think most of Monopoly's popular house rules make the game longer, and everyone ignores the time limit variant as well. Then people complain the game is too long.
@KvOverlordgaming
@KvOverlordgaming 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite anime rule was at any point you could yell, "now it's my turn! I draw a card." and your opponents turn was over. No question asked.
@Stratus901
@Stratus901 3 жыл бұрын
Or the one where you can have you turn first because you say it
@eight6155
@eight6155 4 жыл бұрын
Magic: The Gathering has a 250-page comprehensive rulebook that contains everything you could possibly need to know about how the game works. It's a complete documentation of the game system that leaves nothing unspecified. Sure, it's not the first thing you'd read if you were learning the game, but you can reference it to answer any question about the game. Sometimes I wish Yu-Gi-Oh! had something similar. When I have a complex ruling question beyond what PCST can tell me, or I need to prove a ruling to someone else, oftentimes the only way to do that is to ask a judge or collate information from the wiki or several different blog posts. It would be nice to have a centralised, authoritative source of information that players can consult.
@IamGrimalkin
@IamGrimalkin 4 жыл бұрын
Although the wiki usually references its sources from official konami Q &As and such, so you can go to those if you want something more official (some of them are in Japanese though).
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I play MtG a lot and I love that comprehensive rulebook. On top of that though, they also list every ruling made for a specific card on Gatherer. I love being able to determine extremely complex questions from the comfort of my own home or my smartphone.
@AndrusPr8
@AndrusPr8 4 жыл бұрын
Usually we have questions about timing, triggers and interactions
@ygoscripter6690
@ygoscripter6690 4 жыл бұрын
Agree but due to yugioh having specific rulings for a single card and how it interacts in an specific chain of effects sometimes, I guess the book would be over 1000 pages, at that point would be better and faster checking the wiki/official sites.
@KunouNoHana
@KunouNoHana 3 жыл бұрын
The other nice thing is that except in weird edge cases 90% of the rules of magic work the way you expect them to. There's not really an equivalent to something like "Missed timing" or how special summons work. In MTG if an effect triggers it triggers, except in the case of about 20 cards that have a mechanic that specifically says "nothing triggers in response to this card". There's a difference between a creature being cast and being put onto the battlefield, but almost any time it matters the cards will actually SAY on them which version they care about so you don't have to look it up, etc... Similarly, MTG implemented most of the good parts of problem solving card text a solid 12 years before Yu Gi Oh (although, as with Yu Gi Oh, templating improvements are always an ongoing project). Additionally in MTG specific rules tend to trump general rules. I.E, what a card says it does tends to trump a game rule that says you can't do that, so if you had a monster reborn equivalent in MTG it doesn't matter how the card got into the graveyard, unless the card says it can't be brought back from the graveyard, you can bring it back. Konami could probably learn a lot from MTG about basic rules design.
@PhantomHavok
@PhantomHavok 4 жыл бұрын
Some guy who hates the Egyptian Gods reads the Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulebook *The latest audiobook by Dzeeff*
@toumax8159
@toumax8159 4 жыл бұрын
As a wise man once said. Screw the rules. I have green hair
@frankaxe6700
@frankaxe6700 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 0 attack monsters can't destroy each other
@chaos_ae
@chaos_ae 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most obscure rule in the book just because the situation so seldom occures.
@ENCHANTMEN_
@ENCHANTMEN_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@chaos_ae I remember in rata and jimble's ojama mirror match (in ygopro) jimble attacked "just to see what happens"
@IngwiePhoenix_nb
@IngwiePhoenix_nb 4 жыл бұрын
*Waboku enters the chat*
@thugnificent210
@thugnificent210 4 жыл бұрын
@@chaos_ae wierd i thought that was well known though. As a kid i rationalized it as it's basically like a pillow fight neither can damage the other, but I guess I can see how it could be confusing.
@crono276
@crono276 4 жыл бұрын
That should happen in an anime if it hasn't already
@alucard5841
@alucard5841 4 жыл бұрын
for the guy that said ''if you need to read the rulebook, the game is badly desingned'', try playing D&D without reading.
@DXYS95
@DXYS95 4 жыл бұрын
It's not really a fair comparison: in yugioh you have the cards (which you can read) to go off and play. What you should say is: "try playing D&D without reading the manual, but with a character sheet at your disposal". Which is totally doable
@alucard5841
@alucard5841 4 жыл бұрын
@@DXYS95 it's Fair because he didn't specified, he generalized for all tabletop/board games.
@DXYS95
@DXYS95 4 жыл бұрын
@@alucard5841 Then it's just a really bad take and I gave it too much credit XD
@hannessteffenhagen61
@hannessteffenhagen61 4 жыл бұрын
@@DXYS95 It's not. I see a ton of people _try_ doing that, and they get so much stuff wrong that it'd be a huge stretch to call it D&D at that point anymore. It's basically like giving a deck of Yu-Gi-Oh cards who's only _heard_ of the Anime and maybe saw someone else play the game at some point and expect them to know what to do. I mean, you can certainly do a lot of roleplaying with just a character sheet, but it's more D&D inspired than actual D&D.
@sasir2013
@sasir2013 3 жыл бұрын
That can be chaotic fun!
@NerdByAnyOtherName
@NerdByAnyOtherName 4 жыл бұрын
Another interesting ruling about tokens that is obvious to long time players but unintuitive for newer players and is actually the reason tokens cannot be used as Xyz material is that tokens only ever exist on the field. If a token would be moved to any other zone, such as the hand or graveyard or the "Xyz material zone", it instead ceases to exist. So, since cost is payed before resolution, if you were to try to Xyz summon with tokens the tokens would dissappear before the actual summon could be initiated.
@GaussianEntity
@GaussianEntity 4 жыл бұрын
My head canon reason was that overlaying tokens was a stupid concept and as such, wasn't allowed. This explains why trap monsters are usable while tokens are not. It's funny that it works out in a way.
@DXYS95
@DXYS95 4 жыл бұрын
This still doesn't explain it though: if I paid the cost to summon a monster, it should still be summoned. In this case the xyz monster would be summoned, but it would have no xyz materials. It doesn't make any sense other than "well yeah, it's too easy to make multiple tokens with the same level, so using them for xyz summons would be kinda broken, let's not do that"
@wt1664
@wt1664 4 жыл бұрын
This was actually eye opening and cleared up so much
@auroraseppel6204
@auroraseppel6204 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t understand the feeling of dropping Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth in the lunch room after setting Pinch Hopper the previous turn.
@Leopoldshark
@Leopoldshark 4 жыл бұрын
Konami: After 20 years, somebody finally read the rulebook...
@butteryfriedwizard2219
@butteryfriedwizard2219 4 жыл бұрын
My friends and I learned from the rule book when the first structure decks were released. That was probably the hardest way. Especially seeing as the cards and the rulebook were vague as hell.
@PatricioMarino
@PatricioMarino 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry guys, the 5 rules we didn't know were in the Rulebook are mentioned at 11:26.
@richy6104
@richy6104 3 жыл бұрын
4:50
@CarstenB711
@CarstenB711 4 жыл бұрын
That monopoly poster was amazing. I broke every one of those rules
@aidanklobuchar1798
@aidanklobuchar1798 4 жыл бұрын
But why did the money in poster have symbols from Bleach on them?
@devonhilt9389
@devonhilt9389 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. People complain that the game takes too long but if you play with the exact rules in the book it doesn't take too long
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 жыл бұрын
I love how people thought that being in jail meant you couldn't collect rent. That would be fair, but this isn't fairness, it's capitalism! 🤑🤑🤑
@hannessteffenhagen61
@hannessteffenhagen61 4 жыл бұрын
@@devonhilt9389 It's still bad with the real rules. I've always played by the book, but it still takes up to two hours and the main problem - the fact that there's literally no choice to make at any point - remains.
@devonhilt9389
@devonhilt9389 4 жыл бұрын
@@hannessteffenhagen61 Considering that the game was originally meant to be anti monopoly/capitalist commentary, I think the fact that there's no real choice and it just comes down to who is lucky in the beginning means it is pretty successful
@stardust6984
@stardust6984 4 жыл бұрын
Weirdly how monopoly house rules always extend the game more
@BassForever
@BassForever 4 жыл бұрын
Which is why they're all awful rules, Monopoly is already too long without house rules
@siegemaximo
@siegemaximo 4 жыл бұрын
@@BassForever monopoly isn’t really that long. Maybe like 2 hours tops.
@rud5101
@rud5101 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep from eliminating the kids too early or they'll throw a fit.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 4 жыл бұрын
Free Parking payouts alone make a long game.
@StarkMaximum
@StarkMaximum 4 жыл бұрын
@@rud5101 I actually think this may be part of it. The common house rules of Monopoly keep people in the game longer, and kids tend to get sour when they're taken out early. I bet a lot of these house rules came about because parents wanted their kids involved for as long as possible.
@jacklehman5067
@jacklehman5067 4 жыл бұрын
"Commenters Dont Understand Da Rulez"
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 4 жыл бұрын
Wands: Pbbbbth!
@cozzillagaming1869
@cozzillagaming1869 3 жыл бұрын
*Yugioh Players
@stefanyordanov2885
@stefanyordanov2885 4 жыл бұрын
And don't forget the most important rule: When activating Yu-Jo Friendship with Unity you don't have to actually physically shake your opponent's sweaty greasy hand.
@Nico2718_
@Nico2718_ 4 жыл бұрын
Dude! I've learnt about the fact that you have to properly summon extra deck monsters first just few days ago, because I was reading the ruling book to understand way my overmind archfiend couldn't special summon the banished overmind archfiend when he left the field (I was working on an FTK combo with a cannon soldier and two copies of overmind archfiend). Also, I learnt about the fact that you can't use tokens as xyz materials also a week ago, and I learnt it the hard way (during a duel on YGOPRO 😂). Then, I read the priority rule from the ruling book during a duel with a friend on duelingbook (I wanted to activate an effect at the end of the main phase, and he said "oh, since you activate an effect it's no longer the end of the main phase" and he wanted to activate other effects (not in the same chain as mine) ); and, to finish off, I watched a video about colon and semi-colon few days ago. If you published this video two weeks ago I wouldn't have wasted that much time! 😂 Joke aside, I think I should read the entire ruling book once and for all! (It would honestly be very exciting and interesting). (P.S. I apologise for any English mistake, I'm Italian...)
@timaeus22222
@timaeus22222 4 жыл бұрын
6:40 - Something that confused me back in the day was cards that say "ignoring the summoning conditions", but still cannot Special Summon Fusion monsters from the GY that were not properly summoned before. So something like Elemental HERO Core cannot Special Summon a Nova Master ("Must be Fusion Summoned.") that was sent directly from Extra Deck to GY, even though it ignores summoning conditions. So from what I can tell, ignoring summoning conditions does not mean you can summon an Extra Deck monster from the GY before it was properly summoned, BUT you can still use a card like Neos Fusion to Special Summon a Fusion monster directly from the Extra Deck.
@GaussianEntity
@GaussianEntity 4 жыл бұрын
It's kinda KSS (Konami Says So). When the first card with the text "ignoring summoning conditions" was released (I think it was Level Modulation, can't remember), it had the ruling that the monster had to be "properly summoned" to be a valid target. This was to prevent people from cheating Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8 for easy spell negation but the card did such a poor job of relaying that information back then.
@xBrayJay
@xBrayJay 4 жыл бұрын
Welp. I never thought I would be this type of commenter, but... Day 1 of asking Dzeeff to read the most up-to-date Yu-Gi-Oh TCG rulebook.
@IngwiePhoenix_nb
@IngwiePhoenix_nb 4 жыл бұрын
"Oldschool Priority ruling" You just triggered one of my old nightmares. x.x; Aaaaaah~~! I haven't read it in a while but back in 2013, I downed the whole thing in a few days of reading, verifying, looking at my deck and reading more. Would love to see some of your favorite obscurities in this rulebook. =)
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 жыл бұрын
just curious, how did old-school priority work?
@shipu302
@shipu302 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nerobyrne I may be butchering the rule a little bit, but you could basically activate non quick effects immediatly after you summoned your monster before the opponent could respond. That's one of the reasons why Chaos Emperor Dragon used to be so powerful. Once you dropped him on the field, you could instantly activate his effect without giving your opponent a chance to respond, making cards like Botomless or Book of Moon useless. I'm not sure how this interaction worked with counter traps tho.
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 жыл бұрын
@@shipu302 oh, yeah I remember that. It basically turned "Exiled Force" into a better version of "Tribute for the Doomed", which is probably why it got banned. Although, it did still cost your normal summon, but not if you could revive it with another card.
@DaPopeANata
@DaPopeANata 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nerobyrne I hated that card in the videogames. I swear the AI new when I had Trap Holes set and would mock me by summoning it and immediately triggering it's effect.
@Osindileyo
@Osindileyo 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my brother got into the game after links where added and when it said you could summon extra deck monsters to link zones, we thought that meant you could summon that to your opponents field. Safe to say I was really annoyed when he summoned all over my field and I had no extra deck for the most part.
@Kev.in1997
@Kev.in1997 3 жыл бұрын
The most important thing that is missing here is an explanation on how "if" and "when" effects work aka "missing timing" Because newer players get really confused by that
@SlasherLink119
@SlasherLink119 4 жыл бұрын
When I was young, I knew the official rules, but still used anime effects and thought Relinquished was a nearly unbeatable monster...Lmao...
@s4mura1_slayerx17
@s4mura1_slayerx17 4 жыл бұрын
The guy that disliked this was the one guy that didnt bother to read the rules
@notscorchingsands9718
@notscorchingsands9718 4 жыл бұрын
The video or this comment?
@GordieKat
@GordieKat 4 жыл бұрын
I was one of those kids who obsessively read the rulebook.
@lordcorbipants545
@lordcorbipants545 4 жыл бұрын
Same lol. I have an old old rule book that’s really nice
@Arunnejiro
@Arunnejiro 4 жыл бұрын
I remember reading the rulebook a bunch as a kid several times and we still got things wrong.
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 жыл бұрын
me too, but that was so long ago that I forgot most of it. I even forgot which cards were what spell speed, because I just let the computer do that for me since I haven't played a real game in like 15 years.
@TeamGentlementlemen
@TeamGentlementlemen 4 жыл бұрын
Judge's best friends: 1)Policy Documents 2)Rulebook 3)The chart
@JustJules250
@JustJules250 4 жыл бұрын
Bold of you to assume I've read any rules from the rulebook. I am a yugioh player after all.
@ZenoDLC
@ZenoDLC 4 жыл бұрын
Do you read your own cards at least?
@JustJules250
@JustJules250 4 жыл бұрын
@@ZenoDLC of course not. That was implied with me stating I'm a yugioh player
@Slash-XVI
@Slash-XVI 4 жыл бұрын
it's okay, I can explain: according to my rulebook there are three fundamentally different types of card: monster cards, trap cards and magic cards ...
@Alb410
@Alb410 4 жыл бұрын
"A game isn't well designed if i have to read a rulebook" ... isn't a game a set of rules? with a set of playing pieces? in which you use the pieces within the rules of the game? ???? da fuq????
@r4nd0mguy99
@r4nd0mguy99 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people only use the rules as orientation to make up their own. Just look at UNO. There are probably 1000 different ways to play that.
@jamiebarba5701
@jamiebarba5701 4 жыл бұрын
Kaiba: Screw the rule I have the money.
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 жыл бұрын
no that's Monopoly ^.^
@tyreekl29
@tyreekl29 4 жыл бұрын
Which rule Kaiba
@danielwan2410
@danielwan2410 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyreekl29 THE BOOK
@silvertongue.242_99
@silvertongue.242_99 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely didn't know about special summoning from the extra deck thing. The stardust effect I definitely happened to me idk why it didn't revive at the time lol. Great video 💕
@CGCGCG91
@CGCGCG91 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends misunderstood fusions when we were younger. We thought any two cards could fuse with polymerisation. We'd normally fuse two weak monsters to make something that could take down high defense or attack monsters like Labyrinth Wall or Blue Eyes. We would stack both "fused" cards on one monster space, adding each monsters attack and defence to create the new fused monster. Definitely added a unique dynamic.
@erichp9896
@erichp9896 4 жыл бұрын
Me: see monopoly part Still me: laughs in reading the entire monopoly rulebook and never cheated in it since years
@JRDeBo
@JRDeBo 4 жыл бұрын
It sucks when you do something that the rules allow, but everyone calls you a cheater for doing so. Say someone is staring at their cellphone and you land on one of their properties. Instead of paying rent you decide to hand the dice to the next player and they go. That is perfectly legal as the rules state you must be asked for rent, if not, you don't owe it. Once the next player's turn starts, you are free of paying that rent. This rule is done incorrectly so much that even the "Cheaters" edition of Monopoly messes it up by calling that cheating.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 4 жыл бұрын
The “Cheaters Edition” calling it cheating means that this version considered it cheating, so the rule was updated. It’s like any other errata such as Goyo Guardian needing an EARTH Tuner.
@LarryNoir
@LarryNoir 4 жыл бұрын
@@JRDeBo the ENTIRE POINT of Monopoly is to be as cut throat and unfair as possible within the limits of the rules. So skipping paying rent because the owner wasn't paying attention is right on brand with the game.
@JRDeBo
@JRDeBo 4 жыл бұрын
@@runningoncylinders3829 actually, if you go to their website and look up the official rules for Monopoly, it still states you don't need to pay rent if it wasn't asked for. So it's only "cheating" in the cheaters edition.
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 жыл бұрын
house rules aren't really cheating. It is wild though that house rules are so universal that the makers of the game know about them ^.^
@Entei9000
@Entei9000 4 жыл бұрын
I just got ptsd from when my friends argued that an attack will still go through when you activate Sakuretsu Armor since it doesn't state that it negates the attack, or that cards like Enemy Controller let you tribute your opponent's monster, since it doesn't say that you have to tribute your own
@lamiaprincess6371
@lamiaprincess6371 4 жыл бұрын
PK RUM Launch was also a big big big big card where player priority was really important, because it meant that you could use a card or effect before your opponent could rank-up their Redoer into an Azathot and that often made the difference if what you were doing could remove the Redoer or stop the RUM from resolving.
@JGdouble2
@JGdouble2 4 жыл бұрын
Did you know Pot of Greed let's draw 3 cards and summon a Pot of Greed
@saahasswaroop1267
@saahasswaroop1267 4 жыл бұрын
Doug: So I read the rule book Yugioh players: What does pot of greed do again?
@thecrowds209
@thecrowds209 4 жыл бұрын
Dzeeff be like: Reading every normal type monster for a video? YEET Reading the entire rule book for a video? Naw.
@bulkbogan2242
@bulkbogan2242 4 жыл бұрын
Wait this game has a rulebook??? Wait.......This game has RULES?!?!?!
@gabrielcalmon8516
@gabrielcalmon8516 3 жыл бұрын
screw the rules! I got money
@logan_wolf
@logan_wolf 4 жыл бұрын
3:06 To be fair, I play video games, in fact, they're my main hobby (moreso than cards), but that argument of "if you need to read instructions to play a game, it's poorly designed" sounds like it was made by someone who plays video games. And not old ones, either, but newer handholdy video games, that have tutorials that are too long, or button input displays all over the screen. Anything more complicated than checkers needs instructions, and that doesn't make those things "bad".
@elhugox1
@elhugox1 4 жыл бұрын
The "if I have to read a rulebook the game is bad" guy has never played chess or any other "competitive" tabletop game in their life
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, honestly how do they think this works? If you want to find out how any game works, you have to read the rules or ask someone who has read them.
@r4nd0mguy99
@r4nd0mguy99 4 жыл бұрын
You don‘t need a rulebook for chess. The set-up is quite easy. The problem are the countless strategies that you have to think of EVERY SINGLE TURN!
@sorryguy8049
@sorryguy8049 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who uses Lair Infernoids, the tribute section of the rule-book comes up all the time.
@MrChillaxin2010
@MrChillaxin2010 4 жыл бұрын
The last point is a bold face lie, Doug. Turn Player's priority: *exist* Quick effect: I'mma pretend I didn't see that.
@adrianmg7359
@adrianmg7359 4 жыл бұрын
You can't activate a quick effect unless your opponent does something in their turn. What's wrong about that?
@MrChillaxin2010
@MrChillaxin2010 4 жыл бұрын
@@adrianmg7359 So when your opponent shot guns off a floodgate during the standby phase, what are they doing it in response to? You drawing a card?
@RNGHater
@RNGHater 4 жыл бұрын
You mean you are gonna try to cheat? If your opponent gave up his prio that's a different thing. And also, if the effect can trigger outside MP (say SP and DP) that's still a different thing, as most players give up prio on those phases.
@Vampirialsin
@Vampirialsin 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrChillaxin2010 usually its cause you don't do anything so you have to pass priority to your opponent before you can change phases. note that they can't use that floodgate before you have a chance to do a quick effect first.
@adrianmg7359
@adrianmg7359 4 жыл бұрын
You automatically pass prio when trying to change phases.
@ProphecyPhrase
@ProphecyPhrase 4 жыл бұрын
I remembered when I was young playing Yugioh World Championship 2011 for the DS I played Sun and Moon Dragon and I thought I could use Gale Dogra to send one of the dragons to the Graveyard to make the combo live easier. I never knew why it didn't work. I never realised until this video that ruling was in the rulebook.
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 4 жыл бұрын
I learned timing correctly from the 2012 game. “You missed timing on Archfiend of Gilfer” .... over and over and over.
@w0lf-m4n
@w0lf-m4n 4 жыл бұрын
Ok for the 150k special you could read the intire rule book
@DylanHlava
@DylanHlava 4 жыл бұрын
It is worth mentioning that a monster that CAN tribute an opponent's monster it points to using it's effect unlike Decode Talker is Gouki The Blade Ogre, because it says You can Tribute 1 monster it points to on either field. At first I was confused on Decode Talker since I know that the Blade Ogre can Tribute monsters from either field, but it's card text specifies that it can use both fields unlike Decode Talker.
@NoShayminFeeding
@NoShayminFeeding 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine playing Yu-Jo Friendship and forcing a hand shake in the that we're in
@jacobluneberg597
@jacobluneberg597 4 жыл бұрын
they actually updated the effect of the card, basically you have to agree to the idea of the handshake instead of physically doing. a handshake because people were doing gross shit to their hands prior to it
@LKMizore112
@LKMizore112 4 жыл бұрын
"old school" priority is simply what priority is, but with ignition effects included. Back when they "took it away", they just took it from ignition effects.
@IamGrimalkin
@IamGrimalkin 4 жыл бұрын
Not really, you still have turn player priority for ignition effects, but not during the summon response window because ignition effects are not quick (it's not that ignition effects don't have priority in the summon response window, they can't be activated in that window at all). If you already have a CED on the field at the start of MP1, you still have the priority to activate CED before your opponent can use PK RUM or whatever.
@LKMizore112
@LKMizore112 4 жыл бұрын
@@IamGrimalkin for sure, but what I'm referring to is essentially now cannot respond to your own summon with your ignition effects.
@scorpshade6123
@scorpshade6123 4 жыл бұрын
That exact game ..eternal duelsist soul for GBA is how i learned to actually play before that my friends amd i would just use duelist kingdom rules and the winner was who had the most momsters in the graveyard by the end of the bus ride🤣
@yugimoto4015
@yugimoto4015 4 жыл бұрын
6:37 why does it specifically say spell card can call of the haunted bring back and extra deck monster sent with gale dogra?
@erichp9896
@erichp9896 4 жыл бұрын
No, extra deck monsters (and ritual monsters) if weren't summoned by their own method can't be summoned in any way, unless it's their own method (like drytron ritual summon from gy, otherswise you can't)
@Skasaha_
@Skasaha_ 4 жыл бұрын
No, it was just am example. No card that can special summon an extra deck monster (and Ritual monsters, and 'special summon monsters', such as your typical chaos monster) from the GY or from being banished unless that monster was first summoned correctly.
@hhaavvvvii
@hhaavvvvii 4 жыл бұрын
It's such a weird rule. Why does it even exist?
@Slash-XVI
@Slash-XVI 4 жыл бұрын
@@hhaavvvvii because special summon first monsters are usually more powerful than "regular" monsters, since you have to jump through some hoops to get them onto the field (granted the difficulty may vary between different monsters). To prevent players from simply ignoring that condition and just sending the monster to the GY then reviving them, they need to be special summoned correctly at least once, thus forcing the player to meet the requirement and fulfil the balancing condition.
@Entropic_Alloy
@Entropic_Alloy 4 жыл бұрын
Card effects that have "leaves the field" are interesting because in the rulebook it clearly says that a monster (and I assume card in general) that "leaves the field" into the main deck does not have their "leaves the field" effect trigger. I've had arguments about that forever, but people still don't agree how it works.
@Skasaha_
@Skasaha_ 4 жыл бұрын
They won't trigger unless the effect specifically says it triggers if the card is shuffled into the deck (Serpentine Princess, basically). This also applies if the card is returned to the extra deck.
@chompyzilla
@chompyzilla 4 жыл бұрын
What’s really weird is that cards send back to the extra *did* trigger their leave the field effects, until master rule 5 came along that is. Why was that ruling different from the main deck ruling for so long, I don’t know.
@GaussianEntity
@GaussianEntity 4 жыл бұрын
This ruling has been flip-flopped on several times tbh. It's pretty confusing at first and not at all intuitive but they finally fixed the glaring inconsistencies with it. Basically, if a card with the text "leaves the field" is facedown when moved, it does not activate (I really hope this applies to banish facedown, too lazy to check lol). It used to be possible to trigger monster effects if they returned to the Extra Deck like E-HERO Absolute Zero.
@Bakadono7525
@Bakadono7525 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the amount rule breaking cards; I feel the needto point out that the rules for Yu-Gi-Oh has become extremely complicated compared to old days.
@RinaShinomiyaVal
@RinaShinomiyaVal 3 жыл бұрын
Literally just learn Problem Solving Card Text. 99% of ruling issues solved.
@sekaihunter9378
@sekaihunter9378 4 жыл бұрын
That moment when you didn't know the differences between soft OPT and hard OPT, so you just turned Satellarknight from a controlling deck into Virtual World Beta Version. Yes, that was how I destroyed my playground with Vega => Altair => Vega => Altair => Deneb combo!
@Linkiscool115
@Linkiscool115 4 жыл бұрын
I had someone in my high school back I 2014 thought that sacrificing a monster and tributing a monster were different thing, where sacrificing was a special summon for level 5 and higher monsters like a tribute summon
@timaeus22222
@timaeus22222 4 жыл бұрын
5:45 - Yeah, being able to tribute a face-down monster often confused me. It comes up a lot in Ninja decks, because Super Transformation says to tribute a "Ninja" (which can be face-down), Transformation says to tribute specifically a face-up "Ninja", and Duplication says to tribute a "Ninja" (which can be face-down). For a long time I wondered why Super Transformation only sometimes cannot tribute a face-down "Ninja", but it's because you have to only use your opponent's levels if you want to tribute your face-down "Ninja", and many targets are higher than Level 4.
@bilal2abed285
@bilal2abed285 4 жыл бұрын
6:37 why does it specifically say spell card? Can call of the haunted bring back an extra deck monster sent by gale dogra?
@Dzeeff
@Dzeeff 4 жыл бұрын
It's just giving an example. I do think it should've just said "card effect," though, to avoid any confusion
@bilal2abed285
@bilal2abed285 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dzeeff thanks but thats not what I wanted to hear, I would have preferred to here yes call of the haunted can be used to cheat out extra deck monsters 😥
@axenthballard7825
@axenthballard7825 4 жыл бұрын
I taught my friends a few things a couple structure decks my crystal beast deck from way long ago and slowly progressed them. I did start them with some house rules then continually removed them when I saw them get better and better. And of course I changed my deck the better they got too. This worked for everyone I taught who actually were into it. House rules included: 1. Draw new hand rule (at end phase only). 2. Mulligan once per duel but you keep same amount of cards in your hand and you can't conduct your battle phase. 3 one day of peace if players both agree they can do a one day of peace card effect without having the actual card that's a once per duel effect. But that's basically it
@yuseifudo1823
@yuseifudo1823 4 жыл бұрын
6:37 why does it specifically say spell card can call of the haunted bring back an extra deck monster sent by gale dogra?
@TheKaijudist
@TheKaijudist 4 жыл бұрын
It says "for example." It's not meant to be all-encompassing.
@calvinmcneil9824
@calvinmcneil9824 4 жыл бұрын
The thing about some of the extra deck monsters most of the ones that see competitive play require them to be summoned with their effect originally
@erichp9896
@erichp9896 4 жыл бұрын
@@calvinmcneil9824 ALL extra deck monster have to be summoned with their own method before being able to be summoned with another eff
@RaTecLov
@RaTecLov 4 жыл бұрын
@@erichp9896 at least they are required to be summoned from the extra deck before being summoned from the graveyard. Take temple of the kings, it can special summon any extra deck monster that doesn't say it needs to be synchro, fusion, xyz summoned
@olliezoop
@olliezoop 4 жыл бұрын
Over the course of COVID months, I've gotten reinvested in the competitive scene of YGO because of channels like this one, and I really enjoy seeing videos like this and like the older tournament conduct videos, as I'm really looking forward to public stuff reopening and the opportunity to go to my first IRL event. Thanks for all the tips, Doug!
@GiantCaliber
@GiantCaliber 4 жыл бұрын
About the Semi-Colon, it’s not exactly cost. For instance targeting is an activation requirement before a semi-colon and must be done to resolve a card effect (even when you don’t pay the card’s cost) Discarding is a cost to activate a card, and can be bypassed to resolved the effect (like Diamond Dude back in the day)
@Skasaha_
@Skasaha_ 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they didn't mention it just to keep it more concise.
@DXYS95
@DXYS95 4 жыл бұрын
Huh that's weird. I've always thought of "cost" as "things you need to do in order to activate the card". So targeting has always been one of them in my mind since, well, you can't really activate MST without declaring what you're trying to destroy
@PumpkinTyr
@PumpkinTyr 4 жыл бұрын
The priority thing also affects effects like the sleeping giant and moon mirror shield If the turn player attacks the sleepimg giant with a card equipped with moon mirror shield, it is always gonna win the battle, cuz the mirror shield activates and then the sleeping giant, and if the opponent attacks your monster equipped with moon mirror shield with his sleeping giant, he is always gonna win the battle.
@qedsoku849
@qedsoku849 4 жыл бұрын
Another important one is that if your opponent activates an effect when you try to end a phase, the game continues in the phase you were in. This is important because it means you can keep playing in your main phase after your opponent uses nibiru.
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting 4 жыл бұрын
Duel Links taught me more about rulings than most other game sessions did. I think sims like that are fine when starting out but I also see videos where people play on dueling network and neglect to activate mandatory effects and neither player notices.
@andresmarrero8666
@andresmarrero8666 3 жыл бұрын
That special summoning ruling doesn't make much sense to me. If Stardust Dragon is brought out through a trap then it should be able to return through its effect. Same for extra deck monsters in the graveyard. Monster reborn should work because they fit the requirements.
@DraKeNgg.
@DraKeNgg. 4 жыл бұрын
the syncro summon part was actually eye opening for me. Great vid
@DragonWaffleX
@DragonWaffleX 4 жыл бұрын
This series should be called Yu-gi-oh players don't like to read.
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 4 жыл бұрын
That could very well be a neat series. Many people look in awe at black rose dragon when I use its effect after synchro summoning as if they forgot or didn’t even know it existed.
@OsirusHandle
@OsirusHandle 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh the rulebook is over 200 pages long
@DragonWaffleX
@DragonWaffleX 4 жыл бұрын
@@OsirusHandle Precisely Dzeef reads it... So we don't have to.
@Boyzby
@Boyzby 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the "If I have to read, it's not a good game" guy didn't do very well in school, considering that's what most textbooks are.
@kyuubinaruto17
@kyuubinaruto17 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing their thought process is that it should be pick up and play, or the anime should have all the general rules I need, but basically no game is so intuitive that you don't need to read SOMETHING to understand it. Even if you just go by the most basic of basics from the first days of the card game you have to understand about tributing, traps must be set for a turn, face down defense, etc.
@AlsoMeowskivich
@AlsoMeowskivich 2 жыл бұрын
my favorite house rule was that you could set as many monsters you want a turn just like spell/trap cards and without tributing.
@cawsking555
@cawsking555 4 жыл бұрын
i was playing with the dule field spell system in 2014 as a tester when 2015 system got updated "Ghostrick Parade " 0 damage to any attack's on both sides of the field because each turn both players are considered to control it. i had the main judges get removed for the ruling error and got the shop dictionary to help in rulings
@Luminousplayer
@Luminousplayer 4 жыл бұрын
taking out the rule book for a game is when many of your friends go "....oh yeah.... i remember i have to do something right now..."
@yoboymoi
@yoboymoi 4 жыл бұрын
I like the way Rush duel cards specifically separate the requirement and effect in two separate sections, much easier to understand than mster duel cards.
@AztecCroc
@AztecCroc 4 жыл бұрын
0:56 The blue and green ones are common, but I've never heard of anyone using the pink or orange house rules before. Orange especially just seems like it would be tedious.
@zyxaqc
@zyxaqc 4 жыл бұрын
I would have agreed with That Guy if he had said "every time I play the game" because the best games are ones that you can play from memory after only reading the rules the first handful of times.
@TheSpudWhacker
@TheSpudWhacker 4 жыл бұрын
We had a house rule of double and triple twin attack. Multiples of the same card can attack at the same time for added attack. Ryu-kishin powered triple twin attack was 4500 attack points. We knew it was wrong; but it was fun.
@georgev3433
@georgev3433 4 жыл бұрын
Rule reading is important. Did y’all know Uno has a point system? Cause it’s described in the rules.
@solaris9426
@solaris9426 3 жыл бұрын
Semi-colons (;) in card effects are not just for costs; they are also for Targeting. Ie. Once per turn: Target 1 monster on the field; [resolution].
@Commodore128
@Commodore128 4 жыл бұрын
I still have not-so-fond memories of dueling someone who normal summoned a Black Skull Dragon from their hand. Nobody knew the rules back then, but that was a whole other level.
@UltimaShadowX
@UltimaShadowX 4 жыл бұрын
So going by the Special Summon restriction, you couldn't use something like Monster Reborn on Destiny HERO - Plasma if it wasn't properly summoned first either, despite it not being an extra deck monster, right?
@KyunaCookies
@KyunaCookies 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Pyroniusburn
@Pyroniusburn 4 жыл бұрын
Same applies to rituals too. Recent example with Drytron, Cyber Angel Natasha can't summon herself from GY if you pitch her straight into it without summoning her first.
@chompyzilla
@chompyzilla 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the most notorious example of that is Flying Fortress Sky Fire. It has a “must first be special summoned by...” clause. There is another monster, Dark Flattop, that can revive a sky fire from the grave, ignoring the summoning conditions. People always think that they can just mill sky fire into the grave and revive it with flattop, but ignoring the summoning conditions doesn’t ignore its status as a special summon monster.
@lotgc
@lotgc 3 жыл бұрын
I tried reading through the magic rulebook, and I nope'd out after seeing it had like 200 sections. Makes me appreciate just how short the Yu-Gi-Oh rulebook is, but I do wish there was more info on things like gameplay states. I think it's weird that your opponent can activate their cards after you draw your card in your turn. I've had it explained that it's because "you took the first action of the phase" but if that's true, can I delay my draw? Like, could I activate a trap card before I draw my card for that turn?
@ZeroKitsune
@ZeroKitsune 2 жыл бұрын
The reason the Magic rulebook is like that is because you're not meant to read it, it's meant to be a reference for "wait, what happens when these two cards interact? I don't actually know" Yu-Gi-Oh just straight up doesn't have anything like that so if you get confused, good luck, go find a wiki and hope it's accurate. You could easily make a shortened Magic rulebook, and they probably have, that doesn't have that stuff. I really wish Yu-Gi-Oh had a comprehensive rulebook like Magic, though. Also...afraid I can't actually answer that last question, sorry nobody else did.
@kawaiimiku1
@kawaiimiku1 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a video where you systematically read out every rule in the rule book so people can timestamp it and send it in the comments whenever there is a ruling dispute.
@mfznal-hafidz8592
@mfznal-hafidz8592 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I'm still confused about "when" vs "if". Most of the time "when" can miss timing but "if" never. But card like gravekeeper's recruiter has "when" in its text but never miss timing. Also all wind-up monsters have once per duel effects (well yes, but actually no) but I'm not sure either this is once per turn or not.
@ManuelRiccobono
@ManuelRiccobono 4 жыл бұрын
Wind-up monsters are neither once per turn or once per duel. Each is once per copy. Immediately after you redolves the effect the Monster became a "normal" monster, but if you set it, or send to the GY/banish zone ar resummon it, it get its effect again. That's why there is the bunny that banish, so you can use multiple times their effects
@mfznal-hafidz8592
@mfznal-hafidz8592 4 жыл бұрын
@@ManuelRiccobono oh, that explained a lot. Thanks, bro.
@Dzeeff
@Dzeeff 4 жыл бұрын
Recruiter doesn't miss timing because it's a mandatory effect
@saiyan_princestudios9790
@saiyan_princestudios9790 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of house rules as a child I was told you would subtract attack points from a monster who was attacked. So for example if dark magician attacks blue eyes dm would die and blue eyes would win but only have 500 attack left. So Celtic guardian could then finish it off.
@lordkiza8838
@lordkiza8838 4 жыл бұрын
I play D&D from time to time and literally you have to read alot of the rules to know what you can and can't do also it helps you with personality to character traits
@hi-i-am-atan
@hi-i-am-atan 4 жыл бұрын
on tributing face-down monsters vs targeting 'em: it's helpful to think of it as a matter of public knowledge. 99% of the time, a tributed monster is gonna end up in the gy or banished, so your opponent can immediately confirm that it was a valid tribute for the cost. however, if you point at a face-down monster and say that it's a water for aquamirror cycle ... i mean, it's face-down. nothing about it is public knowledge. sure, once you start to resolve the effect ( although this isn't the case for cycle ), you _might_ show that the target was valid all along ... but that's only _after_ your opponent has already decided whether or not to respond. it's the same reason why you can't recycle face-down banished cards with pot of acquisitiveness - for all your opponent knows, those cards could very well be destiny board pieces, because you decided that running desires in a deck of garnets was a good idea in fact, i think you might _not_ be able to tribute a face-down monster to pay a non-generic cost if some other effect would cause it to shuffle back into the deck or be banished face-down when it leaves the field. i might be misremembering and it's actually just like fusion summoning with face-down monsters ( you reveal the material anyway, so it doesn't matter if its end location is public knowledge or not ) but i feel like it's one of those "you can't pay 'send to the gy' costs while d. fissure is acitve" quirks i've heard come up once or twice before
@dewet2wet
@dewet2wet 4 жыл бұрын
I used to play a gameboy advance yu-gi-oh game. I remember I used to be able to tribute two monsters - play dark hole to wipe their board - then play my level 7+ monster and attack directly.
@EnderianVR
@EnderianVR Жыл бұрын
5:01 this is true unless using something like the field spell lair of darkness, which has its own specified conditions ofc, but because of that this rule isnt 100% set in stone
@ggw1776
@ggw1776 4 жыл бұрын
Does the audio sound distorted around 7:30 for anyone else or is that just me?
@drdandalf
@drdandalf 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed it too
@dragonmaster951753
@dragonmaster951753 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of tributes. Was randomly playing legacy of the duelist and had soul exchange and a cannon soldier. Come to find out soul exchange allows you to tribute your opponents monster for his effect. Wont ever happen in a big tournament but cool to know
@bmcoyne88
@bmcoyne88 4 жыл бұрын
Basic and informative, I like it. I recommend expanding more on the rules and rulings of Yugioh in future videos, if you need content ideas that is.
@Ashura_Morgraine
@Ashura_Morgraine 4 жыл бұрын
It may not mention the word cost, since not everything before the ; is a cost, example is targeting. Since cost are something you pay, and there can be either done for activating a card effect, for a summon procedure, or the maintance cost of a card.
@gravethestampede3454
@gravethestampede3454 4 жыл бұрын
I started playing with 2000 life points, face up defense position Duelist Kingdom style rules back in the days where my bros shared one copy of starter deck Yugi and Kaiba between us. We had the rulebook but were already having too much to take it seriously. I didn't actually learn how to play the game until I played a Japanese copy of World Championship 2004 I got from a friend. The learning curve thanks to the language barrier and memorize effects based on the context in which opponents would use them.
@germiebeg
@germiebeg 4 жыл бұрын
Not everything before the semi colon (;) is a cost that is why the rule book does not mention it, for example targeting a card or declaring a card type or name are not considered costs, however those actions must be done before the card is activated similar to pay a cost.
@ConnerFilms
@ConnerFilms 2 ай бұрын
I remember being in middle school and when my friend group played Yu-Gi-Oh, we always drew a card no matter who went first. All because of the anime. We thought it was a thing. As we got older that went away.
@ZipherAmythest
@ZipherAmythest 4 жыл бұрын
A rule that I didn't know existed until I bought legacy of the duelist is that the first turn player doesn't draw on the first turn anymore.
@RinaShinomiyaVal
@RinaShinomiyaVal 3 жыл бұрын
Been that way since 2014 iirc
@ZipherAmythest
@ZipherAmythest 3 жыл бұрын
@@RinaShinomiyaVal I won't lie, I stopped following the changes and the ban list back in 2010 or maybe even earlier. I dipped out at XYZ summons.
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