e161: WPL Upgrades - Strengthening the Axles

[@tomcook5813]

People complain about WPL trucks, but you have to admit, the engineering is fairly sound and you get very scale apearance and upgrade parts are dirt cheap. I just built a fire tender with my B14 and it came out great. Wish I could post a pic but can’t here 😊

[@AMPROEngineering]

yes I have to agree. People forget that they are VERY inexpensive. I happy to love my WPL trucks.

[@tomcook5813]

Thank you for your guidance 😊

[@AMPROEngineering]

My pleasure!

[@josephsloppy6750]

I bought the same up grade for the wpl kits i have . there very nice. I use lucas oil cam ahaft and engine. Assembly lube. Coats the brass gears nicely and its sticky. Just a little builders tip

[@AMPROEngineering]

This is a great idea! I use this on my real cars and never thought to on these.

[@josephsloppy6750]

@@AMPROEngineering it works good. Works great on ball diffs and gear diffs...tamiya or koysho etc

[@Just4FunRC]

Just got a set. but theres so many variations. my kit didnt fit wpl c14 but fitted on b1 axles. the bearings was to wide so had to replace them XD 1/16 china scale now is huge lego case. nice channel you sir earned a sub

[@AMPROEngineering]

This makes sense. There have been kits I ordered that wont fit either. So frustrating.

[@NordicRC]

Nice one! Looks like it went smooth. My C-14 is still stock and without electronics. Maybe I’ll get to that project in the next millenium 😃 So it’s nice to follow along here without any effort. Good build video.

[@AMPROEngineering]

This one did unlike the rest of this build! I just got my new printed shock mounts in so you can see what a pain the shock situation was.

[@speeddemon2008]

I grabbed a similar kit with the other style driveshafts. Everything went together well like yours. Two problems; the steering link binds and doesnt allow the suspension to work, and all the axle ends (parts that connect to the wheels) had considerable rust too the point of needing a tap to re-thread.

[@AMPROEngineering]

RUST! OMG. That is awful. I have not seen binding but I am not at that point yet.

[@modelnutty6503]

Alberto you might like this one... I CA'd a hanger to the top in line to the servo arm, ran a small short section of small model aircraft cable (1mm?) to a hanger CA'd to the front 4 link mount to the steering arm... no more suspension interference or bump steer when suspension is compressed. cable runs like a sideways U shape, used a lighter (cable inside sleeve) so the sleeve isn't making much of any spring/pressure on the front right wheel+shock. before this, anytime the front suspension compressed, the front wheels turned left, grrr!

[@AMPROEngineering]

Wow, that is a great idea. That is something that can be used on 1/10 rigs also!

[@modelnutty6503]

thanks, I was thinking to axle mount a 9 gram servo and butchering the box above for the 1/4" (or more) of clearance that'd been lost, then "oh hey why not THIS?". the entry+exit cable fluxed and silver soldered to make it rigid, the steering link end I just wrapped 2 turns around a #1 phillips shaft and soldered into a collar/loop like "----O" to fit. DuBro push rod clamp on the cable at the servo arm is where to adjust for center (it's to the back side and a little tougher to access, but best location for lining up for shortest hanger and least flex), did have to flip the switch to reverse steering direction (big deal!). whipped up the hangers from bits of thicker white powder coated aluminum flashing (CA sticks really good) folded in half over a drill bit slightly smaller than the cable sleeve (squish tight with pliers next to the bit), so when they're opened a little the sleeve slips in, when closed flat and CA'd shut they clamp down onto the cable sleeve. really nice positive steering now, no matter where/how the suspension is flexed! couple quick coats flat black and call it art, don't really notice it visually. definitely will have to drop the axle and pull the 4 link mount to access the 4 pumpkin cover screws if bevel gears have a problem, isn't much an issue, cable+sleeve is just long enough to turn it and undo/redo those screws to drop or install the axle (spatial awareness stuff). I could possibly get away with carefully just bending the aluminum axle up enough to get at the pumpkin cover screws too, but those plastic 4 link hangers aren't all that tough OR easily available...

[@kurdish_rc]

very nice video axle metal pliz my friend how to nimber screwdriver?

[@AMPROEngineering]

Thank you. I use a number 1 and number 2 philips.

[@nitishverma9799]

Please make complete video on how to make a rc car in medium budget with full details

[@AMPROEngineering]

I will.

[@pillaryclinton6187]

Do you like these axles? I'm trying to decide between these and the bulkier titanium ones. I really am looking to add more weight in the hopes it will help with traction. Are these relatively heavy? Have you seen the other version that aren't as scale and much more bulky then these? The other option looks like it would add more weight but take away from the scale look. If these have substantial weight I'd rather get these for the look.

[@AMPROEngineering]

I really like them. I have about 4 sets and they have been great. They are heavier than the stock ones for sure but i you want to add weight, they do sell wheel weights.

[@thatsmyrc]

those axles are a sweet upgrade.. I just built a bruder ram conversion this evening with what wpl rig I had laying around yet I need those axles 8-)

[@AMPROEngineering]

Yeah I was a massive help!

[@TheMasterNo6]

Hi. Two questions. What's a set screw and how can brass gears self lubricate? Thanks.

[@AMPROEngineering]

A set screw is a screw that has a completely threaded body with an internal hex drive for torquing it down. Usually they are used to lock something in place. Brass self lubricates as it has lubricant impregnated within the mating surfaces. Upon saying this....I wonder if they manufacturer here actually did this.....

[@fklotaloi]

Uploaser, Looks like these axle I can use to make my 1:24 Unimog truck 🚚 , very high speed, off road Dakar rally. Wht do think is it too big for 1:24 size truck 🚚? It is not a problem if a little of the tire bulging out of wheelwell.

[@AMPROEngineering]

Yeah I would say it is way too large.

[@tomcook5813]

Is it possible the long screws are to accept a locking nut?

[@AMPROEngineering]

In theory but these are not provided here. I have used some on WPL cars.

[@tomcook5813]

@@AMPROEngineering Hmm, sorry I wasn’t much help, keep creating ☺️

[@DoRC]

I could be wrong but i did look it up to check, i dont think brass is self lubricating. There are types of bronze which are but not brass. Chances are the only reason the gears are brass is because its easy to machine.

[@AMPROEngineering]

Holy crap you are right. It was bronze with the oilite impregnated into it!

[@JoesAutoElectric]

Sintered Bronze is used in many applications as a bushing in place of a bearing due to being self lubricating. Brass is just easier to machine. Does anyone have a link to the "ugly" driveshafts for these trucks? I have a 4x4 and also a 6x6 which I would like to upgrade.Thanks!

[@DoRC]

@@JoesAutoElectric actually sintered bronze itself isnt. The self lubricating bronze bearings are impregnated with a lubricant. The sintering just gives the lubricant a place to be absorbed.

[@RunThatRC]

I was told they are copper gears? Could that be possible? I have 2 sets of the brass/copper ones and a set of the steel black gears. They all seem to work fine for me. Also after a couple runs the steel stuff seems to mesh better than the other gears. It's just what I noticed. But none show signs of going bad soon.

[@borivojetravica569]

Hi gays... What WPL stand for and where is located, company.... Tnx

[@johnc3695]

I installed one like that but the tires kinda wobbly in the rear part. How am I going to fix it?

[@AMPROEngineering]

Honestly it shouldn't matter. These run so slow anyway that it should not be noticeable.

[@tamiyafrog3220]

Great video man.

[@AMPROEngineering]

Thanks!

[@robertrosson1990]

Nice video.waiting on all of my upgrade parts hope they all go together as well as yours did.Should be a pretty stout truck with all the new metal parts and bearings instead of plastic parts and plastic bushings.

[@AMPROEngineering]

I agree. I am doing a ton to mine.

[@Benri05]

Are the driveshaft/pinion bearings the same size as the bearings inside the axle?

[@AMPROEngineering]

Diameters yes. I have seen some axles where the bearings are thicker but for most of my WPL cars, yes.

[@diegogalarza3568]

I just love your video's

[@AMPROEngineering]

Very kind of you!

[@TSelfridge89]

What 4 link kit do you have?

[@AMPROEngineering]

It was a very early one I found on ebay. It was terrible! All the ball cups were too stiff so I had to open them all up. The all metal ones are much better. You can see those in episode 215

[@howardalteisen2281]

My RTR version has a metal pinion both differential.

[@AMPROEngineering]

I bought another version and it did too!

[@RC-ty5ym]

It's brass, not metal.

[@nathencosgrove877]

I’m having trouble breaking the plastic to get the gear for the drive shaft any suggestions?

[@AMPROEngineering]

Has it worked?

[@nathencosgrove877]

AMPRO Engineering no I ended up buying a new drive axle

[@jaredsay3331]

I wish you’ll put links in for metal gears

[@AMPROEngineering]

I did but then the sellers changed. It is all on ebay though.

[@kitdank8648]

Mine came with the left side axles bent and the left front shock was over tightened and my rear axle transmission broke 1st day and i also had to super glue all the pres fitted parts on the drive train due to slippage

[@AMPROEngineering]

Ouch...yeah some of these are pretty low quality.

[@howardalteisen2281]

The RTR is build for kids only to play it from the box.. And the kit is for adult. That can afford to buy an electronic & metal updrades for it.

[@borivojetravica569]

Hi gays... What WPL stand for and where is located, company.... Tnx

[@AMPROEngineering]

I think the Chinese translation is Naught Dragon. I do not know where they are based or the company that they buy the cars from. WPL does not make the cars, it is a contract manufacturer.

[@borivojetravica569]

@@AMPROEngineering kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5bTiqlthNiBb9k... Part 1 and part 2....I don't think sow that is fabric, just rent space for video... Parts probably manufactured all over the China difrent factory. This is probably just one of many place for assembling and mailing place. There is no even site www.wp...something. I think this is a complete black operation 😂... But hey we have cheap toys who after good upgrading cost 150$. My opinion - Grow up peoples build from scratch(or pay 1000$ and more) children bay this for start. I am beginner but after sow much videos I make up my mind to go building own crazy idea (rc truck) or two.

[@AMPROEngineering]

I totally agree with you. Your own designs are always the best! Good luck!

[@dimurn73]

Отличное видео 👍👍👍

[@AMPROEngineering]

Спасибо!

[@Alamander81]

You called it a differential but it looks live. Are these WPLs live front and rear?

[@AMPROEngineering]

You are correct, yeah they have spools front and rear.

[@tonyromano6220]

Live?

[@angiuez8892]

Ciao, quale tipo di grasso hai utilizzato per gli ingranaggi? Grazie

[@AMPROEngineering]

Tamiya "Anti-wear" grasso

[@marsgoufwang7869]

good job

[@AMPROEngineering]

Thank you!

[@wildcrawls]

Where to buy these friend?

[@AMPROEngineering]

I have added a link in the description for you!

[@sophie28ize]

Thanks for Sharing!!

[@AMPROEngineering]

My pleasure!

[@kasper3744]

where did you get metal parts for bridges?

[@AMPROEngineering]

They were on banggood.

[@jaredsay3331]

Has anyone replaced The plastic bushings to a bearing

[@AMPROEngineering]

I have on my other ones. It is a good upgrade.

[@nathencosgrove877]

AMPRO Engineering what size bearings?

[@matthewjames2649]

White out . The kind you brush on.. work good.. ty4sharing!! Just did wlp p/u tk.. no ball bearings ? What's the point.

[@AMPROEngineering]

When I did this upgrade, you could not get them. Nylon is naturally lubricated so they work fine for light use. This has since been upgraded.

[@nateslife6831]

How did you instal them links

[@AMPROEngineering]

That should be in episode 162

[@johnroddy931]

They fell off mine and I got the ugly ones and they worked perfect kinda

[@AMPROEngineering]

I am not surprised. I ordered more of them too.

[@modelnutty6503]

kinda wishing they'd done a drilled spot in the shaft for the grub to bite into, instead of a flat to clamp against, it always holds better. downside being can't choose where it locates lengthwise, like shimming/spacing the bearings further apart etc. btw... minor cringe when you cut the stock U-joint off with the diag's, they're exactly what I used to lever the shaft out of the plastic bevel gear's splines, for keeping the parts intact. aim at the really short exposed shaft, a little squeezing and wiggling, then a little levering... now you know :) it'd been SO much nicer if they'd end drilled/tapped those short shafts for a screw to keep the bevel gear on it's splines. I really didn't like using a tiny spot of CA inside the plastic bevel gear to press it back onto the shaft splines. not enough wouldn't hold, too much could have made a grab to the darn (plastic) bushing. "painting" CA inside the bevel gear splines with a little frayed wire and squeezing the gear onto the shaft QUICKLY... grr! it's right up there with using a little JB-weld to attach stock U-joint to geared N20/N30 output shafts.. it works but dang! (and the 24 hour wait for the junk to cure hard too, grr!)

[@AMPROEngineering]

I did try to wiggle them off but they just refused to move. I also didnt want to use CA. I hate that.

[@ericcxxxx]

tamiya f1 road wizard front chassis upgrade pz help

[@AMPROEngineering]

Oh i do not have one of those!

[@justinekentcahiles3049]

is your motor stock?

[@AMPROEngineering]

It is the larger one that came with the 2 speed.

[@justinekentcahiles3049]

Thanks great upgrades ..

[@Alamander81]

Large as in 180 can? Those motors make gobs of to torque for their size

[@Kiran_dandwte_5157]

Price

[@AMPROEngineering]

Best to check here since currencies change. www.wpl-rc.com/

[@emersonpedro3944]

Show Parabéns,,,,,,,,,

[@AMPROEngineering]

Sure, what did you want to see?

[@TheDaddy187]

yeah them driveshafts are crap... stick with the uglier ones... better scale but weaker attachment

[@AMPROEngineering]

Agreed.

[@garrykennedy5484]

It may be short, but it sure is skinny! Who are you going to please with that? she asked? My reply,,,,,, ME!!!!!!!!!

[@AMPROEngineering]

hahahah!

[@fracturedhearts3734]

Get the 2speed .

[@AMPROEngineering]

I have 3 of them, haha!