E63s AMG vs Supercars // BOTB Drag Race | SCD Drag Races

In our latest BOTB Shootout, we pitch the mighty E63 S against a variety of Supercars to see what it takes to beat the 4 door super saloon in a straight line over a standing half mile! We used a vbox in each car to gather to performance data and took their best run of the day.
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[@koob9446]

Can we talk about how the E63s is a MID-SIZED LUXURY sedan with all the weight of a modern luxury sedan? Going toe to toe with these pure-bred supercars?

[@leftheodo]

GTC4lusso is a 4seater and weighs almost the same as the E63s. The v12 version would destroy the Merc. Porsche gt3 is track oriented car, with 104hp less than the Merc and it's not meant to be very fast in a straight line. It would destroy the Merc at any track though....

[@essayedgar]

@@leftheodo so the E63S was meant for drag racing? No, stop making excuses and just face that this luxurious sedan can outperform supercars

[@leftheodo]

@@essayedgar who said that it was made for drag racing? It has 104 more hp than the gt3 and horsepower is very important in drag racing. What if you put it against a gt2 rs which has 97 more hp, would it be fair? The gtc4lusso is a luxury 4 seater too. Stop being a fanboy and read what I wrote exactly...

[@G55STEYR]

How can you not be a fanboy of the 3 point star which means Mercedes-Benz supremacy in Air Water and Land. It crushes that poor beetle, what an dumb bubble, ugly thing

[@jelly7924]

i know right! it's a lot more practicle than supercars nd doesn't cost as much🤷🏻‍♂️

[@saudkhan82]

Mercedes is the winner as its 4 door saloon car n competing with sports specs high rev cars. my vote goes to merc

[@nishchaiydakhane9846]

E63S is a monster. Crazy engineering ✌🏻🇺🇸

[@denniss.5173]

Why the USA flag ?

[@gangsterhamster8415]

Dennis S. AMERICA

[@jxs1503]

G Class keep calm ma men

[@gclass695]

Which language dou you speak. Pička timaterina stočkaina curva

[@gangsterhamster8415]

G Class German cars only last 3 months lol American and Japanese cars last a lifetime

[@geojoshi7448]

That amg is a beast of a car

[@jbjbjfjefhefefhiehi1]

Geo Joshy m5 is faster

[@TheKingc20]

Until an M5 comes along and takes it down

[@jacopoi7047]

ahahaha thank you Heino these bmw tards must be stopped

[@guillaume6254]

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[@mohannadqawasmeh3670]

Kushi son STFU MAN he said that the E63 is a beast and you immediately jump on with the "M5 is faster" shit , your so damn stupid

[@SilkBabyVideos]

I rented it from Hertz over the weekend and became a Mercedes fan. This car is an insane monster and absolutely fun to drive.

[@Jay75Euro]

E63s is a BEAST under a Monster Machine. Mercedes Benz: The Beat Or Nothing

[@gamingmamba2584]

*Best

[@ChimaChindaDev]

E63s - The benchmark in its class.

[@jenGD3]

Chima Chinda lmao are you dreaming man??

[@jbjbjfjefhefefhiehi1]

actually the m5 is, the e63 S is the wannable benchmark

[@paulstefan357]

@@jenGD3 ur dreaming....wake up

[@joniboomful]

Paul Stefan the m5 is faster in a straight line and corners better so...

[@chicken4967]

Chima Chinda No lol M5 is

[@teodorazaid2702]

Mercedes ❤ *The Best Or Nothing* 💪🏻😎

[@benfl9636]

I got the "nothing" part of Mercedes, 3rd year ownership and all these electrical parts are malfunctioning. Just happens to be after warranty coincidently...

[@srbishkrst]

@@benfl9636 what exactly car you had?

[@spyman6]

No problem here too

[@1stTnetix]

User error.

[@izact]

At first I was like this isnt fair, an E63s is fast but not made for this, I was impressed that even a mercedes sedan could win against two powerful cars, Mercedes has definitely up'd their game!

[@catalinxnecula]

up`d their game? i guess you're not familiar with their work for the last 100 years and the fact that they build the first car ever.

[@zeyn3969]

If they made an e63s coupe...

[@yo5666_]

yes!

[@A01009aaron]

Fuck that would be mad

[@graeme7446]

That would be my dream car right now. Pity they're not doing it.

[@AbsoluteHeartLess]

C63 coupe is not a bad option tho

[@officialFUKU]

C63 coupe with drivetrain of E63... ^.^ that would be a bomb...

[@Merkava76]

AMG E63'S is My dream car, but I'd love it in an estate 😍🤙

[@mwolf7780]

Yeah bro me too " its a dream sedan" yeah

[@sander5457]

The AMG E63s is the most insane car ever build, in his class. Its totally fkn sick. And it look so fkn nice, wow

[@truthangel8239]

M Power fans triggered they didnt use the new M5. AMG is a BEAST.

[@95regShamil]

We have nothing to prove. The M5 proved its superiority over the E63s in everything. The M5-F90 dominates not only the E63s but also any other Mercedes including the AMG gtr. M-Power is no joke

[@hidekiwatari5847]

@@95regShamil the whole M power is a goddamn joke

[@iiascariii3916]

Just_Sham... bmw is not on the same level as Mercedes

[@iiascariii3916]

Just_Sham... f1 technology >>>>>>. BMW doesn’t even compare

[@konstantinostrifyllis2322]

@@95regShamil The whole comment was a joke but I laughed especially hard with the amg gtr part.

[@samadshamsi1]

I want to see 812, 720s, Aventador S, AMG GTR, 911 GT2 RS, Huracan Performante, 488 Pista, Huayra BC, Ford GT together in a drag and circuit

[@WeirdBrick]

You dont ask for much do you.... :)

[@samadshamsi1]

When they can make Holytrinity race why not this

[@ARDEN440i]

720s will beat them all, in a drag. Edit: Didn't notice the Huayra

[@justin6378]

Supercharged HEMI 720s will beat that as well!

[@samadshamsi1]

Indeed 720S is the fastest but In Mile 1/4 can’t be so sure...The GT2RS and Performante has some serious launch, light weight and dual clutch shifting...

[@junito1008]

E63S One of The Best Car on Recent Years !!

[@tolutripz]

See the way the nose flies up for maximum traction. Damn!! E63 s all day!!!

[@undefeatedchamp7839]

Tolulope Adekunle has nothing to do with traction. Its because the aggressive acceleration causes a counterclockwise torque.

[@diongeter4095]

UndefeatedChamp thank you😂

[@diongeter4095]

UndefeatedChamp if that was the case a Tesla does it and it still doesn’t spin it has traction always

[@anthonyfreda1040]

The insane torque and soft suspension is what causes it. It’s not FOR traction, its partially due to traction you could say. It’s just inertia /simple physics really. Some stiffening and lowering will a nice diff on this car from looks, not that it even needs it!

[@markanthony1615]

Think about it guys if anyone ever been in a E63s it’s a heavy car with really no aero .all the cars in the video are sports car that have nice aero body’s . For this heavy 4 door car to beat most of these cars it’s unbelievable! Germans are killing it!! Love the AMG . And before people say the M5c no that car is way lighter than the E63s with more Hp . Just wish AMG would make their cars louder like their old models would be really worth the money!

[@sajusu2556]

I also love the E63, but the 911 is made for cornering and racetracks.

[@C63Bez]

That e63s looks the part and is so impressive. Love it

[@xinmeirental9405]

This video is just a roller coaster from start to finish. Thanks for making such a great comparison video!

[@xinmeirental9405]

Also to add that this video did not disappoint.

[@sambhunathbiswas3209]

Damn E63 !!! It's a beast!!!!! Need more this drag races... Subscribed 😎

[@khaliiiiiii79]

Mercedes Benz ///AMG 💪💪💪

[@calistaokafor283]

Mercedes slowed down when he was racing with Ferrari

[@cj41079]

wow dat white 488 is stunning

[@andyp8464]

CJ Yang saw one parked up on Grosvenor place yesterday. stunner

[@ferfire9]

Its a true beauty! i love it

[@The_Animal_Man]

You might be able to afford it once you learn to spell "that" correctly

[@SkynetGeneral]

White Ferraris are always beautiful.

[@damachine3]

Almost ordered a blue one...special order that they can do since they do Maseratis in blue (sister companies). Mine is coming in red IF I choose it over a 911 Turbo S, which is quicker, more understated, and a better daily driver.

[@korbin70x75]

An absolutely awesomeness comparison, brilliant thank you😎

[@sultanarrabai8043]

1:44 that start tho 😍😍😍💪

[@ddeanb784]

Cant stop watching this

[@ramziakainu7141]

This Monstre the Best or Nothing 😍💪🏻🔥🌪

[@popduce841]

Good Video Very fast Mercedes Benz

[@dalaanibombina8822]

The music goes so well with the video. Well done lads.

[@smitprajapati6308]

That roar of V8 BITURBO of AMG is just something else.........

[@Jamesduce]

Great video

[@superflea72]

that Merc is an amazing car!

[@davemichalak7140]

Awesome vid, do want an E63 AMGS!

[@stefangeorgiev5855]

The best KZbin video!

[@merc7paul]

Damn Mercedes

[@mohamedmerzak8482]

❤ AMG ❤

[@marcovanni1851]

Cool video! The E63S is a special Beast! But the 488 looks amazing!

[@DAYRONRODRIGUEZ]

Nice racing!! I would like to see this E63s against the Tesla P100D

[@-Tidgy]

Goes to show the sheer engineering skill of AMG, along with it already being a Mercedes-Benz, it's unparalleled. Bring on the Brabus.

[@YUSKHAN]

E63 doesn't even use double clutch transmission 🇩🇪 AMG 💪 💪 💪

[@catalinxnecula]

actually it does. mct means multi clutch transmission. the bmw m5 is the one you're thinking about with a tc 8speed auto because m division can't build a proper gearbox themselves....#SMG

[@antreaskonstantinou8585]

The m5 has a torque converter? Holly F I thought only the demon was superfast with a torque converter

[@Hyper7Justin]

Cars&Roads UK Actually MCT is still an autobox despite its misleading name Multi-Clutch, it has multiple wet clutch plate replacing the conventional torque converter, but it’s not a dual clutch unit and fundamentally it is an automatic.

[@CarObsessed123]

Great stuff!

[@Phobos_Deimos]

This AMG is wild. Gorgeous family saloon.

[@TheUglySlug666]

Should have been a Turbo S instead of GT3

[@scd]

Roose Bolton did Turbo S in the last one - twin turbo shootout

[@mohammedismail6173]

GT3 RS

[@DonLee1980]

Still beat it =)

[@user-ht2qb9tm1c]

Not a hope in hell against the turbo s. It would distroy e63s

[@woodstreet8214]

@@DonLee1980 hahahaha not happening

[@TheMpamMpam]

How is it that the lusso v8 is slower? Very strange, especially considering the gt3...

[@scd]

TheMpamMpam short distance only half a mile and the Merc benefits from monstrous grip with 4WD

[@darchandarchan7036]

TheSUPERCARDRIVER ferrari is awd as well

[@eaze7324]

dynos of e63s say around 680 - 700 hp anyway, its more like 612 whp than bhp

[@tompog897]

Darchan Darchan not the v8 lusso. The v12 is though.

[@ahemgee9542]

V8 Lusso is only 2wd

[@Fluterra]

Amazing!

[@Adolfo8289]

This video is Quality👌

[@mikea.7370]

Light to light better watch out, that merc will get yo ass! Good video

[@pheonix-lb4042]

Can you get the all new 2019 Mercedes S65 AMG? and retry the drag races :p

[@wesammansour1486]

Great video.. I always watch you drag race with archie hamilton.. Can you guys please race the 2018 M5 against the 2018 E63s amg.. Thank you Greetings from Yemen

[@The_Hi_Life]

This car is incredible! That AWD launch makes all the difference in the world. The new E classes r soooo fine...

[@jacopoi7047]

Chill m fanboys the chose the e63s for a reason.

[@MegaElle69]

but Its slower ? the amg by a few milli sec

[@Notsure00700]

Jacopo I chill amg fanboy, the m5 runs rings around this e63

[@markom2837]

Chief Wiggum no it doesn't lmao, you just seem to be a less intelligent species

[@tedb835]

Chief Wiggum No it doesn’t, the E63s wins in a straight line.

[@tedb835]

Jack Meov You’re very wrong. The E63s wins in a straight line.

[@dexterjsullen]

Till the v12 65 models show up

[@davidhenneberg6772]

Dexter Sullen 'TRUTH' when was the last time when MB build a V12 for a Amg. I thought only BMW builds an V12 for the M760i

[@BBMS4]

Can you do a video of the M760Li vs S65AMG PLEASE?

[@siopowar]

Isnt the s variant AWD? Probably stiffen up the rear to plant the front a little more? Front end lifts quite a bit. I know squats okay for rwd but is it for AWD?

[@rodneysprawling3462]

e63 s is my favoret

[@hengweizhang6008]

lol, is that the standing quarter mile? The E63s 4matic Plus did it in 10.9 seconds. Pretty sure the little 2019 M5 couldn't​ even catch it.

[@Antimatter.]

Shumus Ali Raja Yeah with the Comp pack the E63 has no chance

[@hengweizhang6008]

Well, carwow is one thing but autoexpress tested both cars on the track and the AMG is faster. Vehicle Virgin showed me his tuned E63s that does 0-60mph in 2.8 pretty sure the M5 couldn't do any better. LOL, the competition​ P would take ages.​

[@thenzimande4847]

Car wow used a brand new M5 that hadn't even been run in yet, hence they are the only ones whose video sees the M5 loose

[@dillanmamou5511]

They put the m5 competition pack it won from a dig but e63s got it from a roll

[@goguhu]

Never seen people call the M5 'little' before ... they are pretty much the same size/weight/power ... M5 F90CP did 1/4 in 10.8s, which I believe is a number smaller than 10.9s M5 F90 did 1/4 in 10.9s,which I believe is a number that is the same as 10.9s Here is actually a measured results between E63s, M5 (non CP), CTS-V and Panamera Turbo www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2018-bmw-m5-vs-cadillac-cts-v-mercedes-amg-e63-s-porsche-panamera-turbo-comparison-test-final-scoring-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-6 Did notice that both the M5 and E63s need to hit 3'rd to get to 60 ... so if people were to change final a bit they might share 0.1 of 0-60 ... CTS-V 60 sharp in 2nd :) From the spec sheet the M5 seems to be a 'clear' winner (if by killing we're taking about 0.1s :)

[@ockneymahlakwana6316]

I,m from south africa i love ur shows

[@nidhinsp410]

Wheww what a beast of a car E63s! Damn!

[@justicewarrior9187]

Lussos pre-orders just got canceled

[@edokvachadze]

Why Not Turbo S ? :)

[@smitprajapati6308]

That AMG E63 S is a monster and that roar of 4.0 litre Biturbo V8 is 😍🥰

[@dsclemente2868]

I own one...and it's brilliantly fast. This was fun to watch...2019 btw

[@valeriosss]

Mercedes AMG power ! 💪

[@Maurice_Moss]

For less than the price of a gt3, you could have a turbo s which would destroy a e63 (and maybe a 488 too)

[@RealFlightSimX]

No, not maybe. It will destroy the GTC4lusso and also the 488.

[@jakes.5143]

I’m confused. The 0-60 on the 488 is 2.7. You have it at 3.65. Where did you get your numbers?

[@senorgato70]

Why do the results at the end not support the televised results of the Benz vs. Porsche in this video?

[@stubones]

All you people saying they should have used a new M5 should realise the difference between the AMG and the M5 is so small it wouldn’t have made any difference to the outcome of these races.

[@jondoe1310]

Mercedes AMG is the best car in the world!! You get more respect driving it and remember it’s the father of all cars! Without it, no car will be in existence. All hail the king AMG!

[@mrkruger5108]

Jon Doe lol get respect driving it.

[@TheKingc20]

Lol until it goes up against the M5.. Zoom.. M5 takes the crown with ease..

[@jacopoi7047]

yeah, crown given by other bmw drivers lol

[@dexterjsullen]

Lol E63s is a mid life crisis car

[@essayedgar]

Dexter Sullen 'TRUTH' how?? It doesn't attract attention or anything, a mid life crisis car would be any supercar ever, not a luxury performance sedan

[@ShadowHunter60]

what is the music you are using on? xD

[@xjo2hx2442x]

Working valet in a very wealthy area of Florida, I always thought that the C63s and the E63s were some of the best looking and best performing cars for the money. In my opinion they are in a class of there own for a practical daily driver that won’t cost you a fortune to own or to insure.

[@ultrongeek7305]

I wish I could win that e63s

[@scd]

Ultron Geek join the queue 🤓

[@kompletteridiot5419]

Ultron Geek Trust me , you dont want to own a car like this . It will make you homeless

[@ultrongeek7305]

P E K K A I'd own own it just to have it as a trophy...I just love the car

[@hamzahqaiser8859]

Well u can own it without driving it, but if u wanna drive it, the car will drain all ur money

[@essayedgar]

@@kompletteridiot5419 I want to win it, sell it, then buy a house or start a business..

[@WHERESSS]

Enzo Ferrari once said "turbos are for people who cannot build engines"

[@mathlove7375]

Man that is totally backwards. Turbo may sound worse but the torque turbos create is massive and turbocharged engines are more efficient than any naturally aspirated engine.

[@MercedesE63S-AMG]

Amazing 😜

[@geew140]

WOW... The best or Nothing!!

[@tommytexter4054]

What about 720s?

[@rewpromark]

Will beat that merc

[@vhateverlie]

Yeah the 720 would leave it for dead. Even if it does get the jump off the line.

[@randomuploads1015]

The 720 would beat a 488 gtb and the gtb just beat the e63

[@bennievandentillaart7276]

Thats called overkill. 720s is in a different leage.

[@v12ish40]

The AMG is faster in a rolling rave in every single video. The AMG does not only look better but it also sounds better. It's also a lot more functional and will retain its value. The M5 is not gonna be worth more than $3,000 in like 6 months lmaoo. Look at the previous gen M5. There are now on sale for $15,000 and that was at the beginning of year. I'm not giving all that up just be 0.1 second quicker after bmw lied about their power output. Good luck bmw fan boys. Btw Chris Harris said the AMG is way better than the m5

[@v12ish40]

SuperManBeemerrr lmfaoo you sound mad bro. The Benz even won the rolling race is this video. I'm guessing you don't know what rolling race is? Lmaoo instead of you being mad why don't you try to prove me wrong? You know I'm right. That's why you're upset. As of very February of this year the previous gen M5 is only $15,000. A quick KZbin search would do you justice stop being mad bruh lmaoo

[@v12ish40]

*E 60 M5

[@almighty9662]

M5 is faster only 0.1 and thats nothing so amgs can be tuned better and overal better quality of vehicles

[@almighty9662]

SuperManBeemerrr u supid bmw fanboy e63s is compared to normal m5 they have same hp u stupid piece of shit normal e63 is 570hp and bmw is faster for 0.1 and nothing qual mercedes has better cars overall

[@almighty9662]

V12 Ish truee

[@onegod4009]

You guys need to do a video like this using a 2018 bmw m5

[@haroonsharif5926]

The launch on that e63 is mad just straight teared this cars in acceleration

[@vishnu36s81]

What about 2019 E63 AMG vs 2019 M5 ?

[@SuperLC1010]

What it takes to knock it of the top spot... SIMPLE ANSWER - M5

[@catalinxnecula]

u have to specify that you need an m5 performance pack and only for a drag race. the regular m5 got obliterated and the m5 performance still can't beat the e63 on a rolling race. but yes.. in a drag race the m5 performance will win by a very tiny margin.

[@jogas7586]

I’ve owned the M and now have the e63 sorry BMW is close but can’t out perform the AMG. Plus the interior on the e63 is hands down so much better with the dual screen setup.

[@paolodavizze4527]

Complimenti bravissimi bel video 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@DubTenProductions]

They really did the e63 justice with that new awd system. I can not believe how hard it pulls off the line.

[@alimozo89]

Just tune the AMG. The Ferrari will have no chance.

[@alimozo89]

Subaru Kawasaki you don't know shit about AMG kid.

[@alimozo89]

Subaru Kawasaki you little stupid kid.

[@BruceKent00]

don Hamood no kids here. But its clear there is a fucktard here, that being you 🖕🖕🖕

[@alimozo89]

Subaru Kawasaki why are you so mad kid? Just get over it.

[@ChuddleBuggy]

that thing is already tuned beyond reason pretty much all you can do is a muffler delete.

[@nirmalkrishnan]

Your numbers suggest that the gt3 is actually quicker 🤭

[@initialb5009]

thought the merc would bog down with the 4wd. very interesting results there.

[@davidjames6247]

The point here is the E63S Sedan is a 4400 lb. luxury car with all the cargo space and creature comforts you could ask for AND still can run with "supercars" that cost well over TWICE the price! Extraordinary handling on track. I own one and the launch is INSANE!!!

[@johnfles]

My friends where is the GTR???ONLY NISSAN GTR!!

[@TheM275]

The Mercedes is epic....

[@shehryar6471]

That is overpowerd, wow.

[@vipvipvip0123]

What a monster!!! AMG E63s!!!

[@tshireletsom4340]

wish this Benz wasn't against supercars only, I would throw the m5 in just to humble it😂

[@luk303]

Funny, how the tables have turned. I find it so funny when people like you are talking shit on the internet. Like, in all seriousness; those things change every 3 years. 1 year the Merc is 0.1 faster, the next year the Beamer is 0.1 faster. What are you talking about humbling?

[@taforth]

How was the E63S faster than the GT3 in your video, when your measured times shown at the end of the video, have the Porsche ahead at all of the increments, including the 1/2 mile??? BTW, the M5 is faster than the Merc as well.

[@WeirdBrick]

At a very simple guess the e63 started first and thats when the vbox starts timing similar to the quarter mile. Or they did a few runs and they were the best times. Either way not much between them. The real let down was the 488, those numbers are tragic compared to a certain rival

[@taforth]

GazRwood imo, you should not provide contradicting info. It’s either faster, or it isn’t, and that was the entire point of the video, wasn’t it??

[@Adi-cp1hu]

Agree with you terry, sure its close between them but they should have atleast mentioned the best times of each car saying which one is really the fastest!

[@Herman-zc7te]

They must have mixed up the two numbers

[@scd]

Marcelo S it’s dry

[@sleepy1066]

Family & Sports car What more do you need

[@alimohammadya9014]

The best or Nothing 😍

[@saeedhokal1062]

So Why are all the M5 Fan boys watching a E63s Video :S....I Prefer AMG,s i own AMG's...But this video was so rigged lmfao, e63s is amazing, but its not faster than a 911.2GT3 Plus, the GT3 at the end of the video had better times...i dont understand lol...never the less. Its still an outstanding car(e63) and so is an M5, i just prefer AMG since it sounds, looks, interior, pretty everthing else over an m5 seems better, but thats just my opinion.

[@harsanyitomi]

Saeed Hokal Yes, the GT3 had better stats at the end... Strange how they measured this times. Anyway, this E63s in insaine even though im big fan of RS6 avant ☺

[@goguhu]

Actually it is faster / as fast (there are some inconsistencies here though, might be different data / extra gear changes) fastestlaps.com/comparisons/t4uz0ebpczgk

[@Caydendayoutuber]

That was until the M5 Competition came along

[@bronwenwoodward2895]

That Mercedes is an amazing piece of kit and swallow your tongue fast. But I would rather have both the cars that beat it....in my fantasy garage. 👍. Nice vid.

[@parkerbee4243]

Why no lc in the gtc4? Always not equal conditions

[@user-hj2se6qr6f]

The ferrari numbers... hahaha

[@MarcSob22]

this test does not count the track is wet !!

[@djtimodj]

Marcelo S it's not wet at all but we did have a very strong head wind all day 😩

[@user-hj2se6qr6f]

Tim Crawford but 488 did 0-200 almost 2 sec solwer than their claimed numbers... disappointed... look at porsche and merc...

[@djtimodj]

Real world test, owners of the cars not racing drivers... Just shows not everyone can get book figures out the cars even with launch control!

[@user-hj2se6qr6f]

Tim Crawford but Porsche almost did it even with that airfield surface 😂

[@GOONMOTORSPORT]

you missed the M5 F90 less expensive and a little bit more faster :)

[@HiddenWen]

An elegant car with the heart of a beast.

[@samyakgulale646]

Wheelie starts.. that heavy car with such a monstrous pull...hats off amg..