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I run a small print farm. We print 22K parts a year. Our farm is primarly Bambu printers as you can see behind me. I have had almost every QIDI and this is the first I can have in my Farm as a standard machine. I also have Prusa Xl and that take too much work, Its off more than on, This is a solid machine!
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[@Jerrie-Lenore]

Great review, great printer! QIDI owners spent a year working with QIDI on the user forums on the improvements we wanted to see from the 3 series, and they absolutely delivered on this flagship 4! Their customer service and interaction with the community is unmatched.

[@Kimberlie1]

Totally agree. They're awesome!

[@strangefire2024]

i am barely holding myself back from ordering this. the only thing stopping me is waiting for them to release the QidiX Max 4, which will most likely be exactly the same but (probably) have a larger bed, hopefully, 350mm cubed.

[@3Dgifts]

Wish it was 350x350 bed with AMS. Would buy it in a heartbeat.

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@3Dgifts I would love Qidi to release something with a 450 footprint and 600 to 650 max height. Throw in heated chamber and AMS capable. That would be very exciting. Electric bill will jump, but Id love it. Would require two circuits to run!

[@KloMeister123]

This is the Qidi Plus4, maybe there will be a Qidi Max4 with maybe about 350-400mm print size

[@3Dgifts]

@@KloMeister123 That, I believe, will push them to the front of the line if the quality of printing etc. remain the same. Ideally 500x500, AMS/MMU, and the same print experience will unseat X1C as the go to printer.

[@RegisWizard]

great review but your uploaded video is too soft (low resolution). comparing prints from the bambu printer is difficult as the details are not there. you might need to upgrade your video gear or record at higher resolution and bitrate.

[@ebpman]

Its 4k. Must be youtube. I will take some pics and place on social media

[@ipadize]

Its always youtube when you release the video directly after it has been uploaded. Maybe wait for it to be at 4k before releasing the video.

[@NarcoSarco]

If they release the fillament management system this will be perfect! i would love to see a preview of that 👀

[@802Garage]

Q1 2025.

[@ebpman]

@@NarcoSarco I hope to see it soon too

[@802Garage]

Nice review! Great to have the perspective from someone who runs a print farm and demands quality with speed. I just got my Plus4 and so far I am very impressed. I mostly focus on automotive prints, so the ability to well utilize higher grade filaments is key for me. I like Qidi as a brand and I think this is definitely their most impressive offering to date.

[@willofthemaker]

I'm really tempted by this printer. I started selling some automotive parts recently as well and only have open bed slingers printing ABS. Works in the summer on hot days, but not sure if it will work well in a cold garage during the winter haha

[@802Garage]

@@willofthemaker Yeah the ability to do materials like PPA/PPS/PP with ease is a main draw for me. Gonna be doing a throttle body adapter for my V10 engine soon out of a PP-GF filament from a lesser known company that I think will be awesome. Have some cool plans for many other car parts too including interior stuff.

[@ebpman]

What do you print?

[@willofthemaker]

@@802Garage sounds awesome!

[@802Garage]

@@ebpman So far mostly oil caps, seals from TPU, bushings from hard plastic or TPU, brackets, small specialty tools, throttle body adapters, print in place bearings, phone holder components, and soon more interior parts as well or replacement NLA car parts like exterior trim.

[@willofthemaker]

Thanks for the review. I am really tempted by this printer. It certainly checks almost all the boxes. (I'd love an IDEX for copy mode or dual materials). AMS for this is coming though which is awesome. BTW it is pronounce Chee dee, not kee dee. Also would love to see your farm. DAMN thats a lot of producs you sell.

[@ebpman]

Thanks.

[@nlkatz]

Great review (I subscribed), and fnally the first one of the 4 Plus to address the elephant in the room - does this reach Bambu levels of appliance-like usability. The question is, is it really as hassle-free, or just close enough for a seasoned pro; I'm a beginner.

[@joaquinmadrid3642]

Sounds like Bambulab lost the opportunity to make money with a larger XL printer.

[@ebpman]

Agree

[@TC-dk6do]

I doubt you will see anything new from Bambu due to the fact they are being sued for patient infringement.

[@naturesrecorder9099]

Ordered mine $760 shipped. Exciting upgrade from my modded ender 3. Seems like a better value than bambulab, and an AMS module will be out next year

[@ebpman]

@@naturesrecorder9099 for my business use it's been doing well even with this as an early release unit. I am looking forward to the ams for light color more for hours and hours of printing. Having rolls to continue to print non stop is important to me. Congrats on your purchase

[@JTs3DPrints]

Great review. My new 4 Plus arrives day early, will be here tomorrow. Keep watching reviews in the meantime, very excited! This is add to my Q1 Pro, XSmart3, and highly modified Ender3v2 which I learned on. Will be starting channel in Oct/Nov timeframe which covers 3d printers as used around my small wood and steel shop. The 4Plus will be exciting when they add the AMS 1st quarter 2025. I can not justify $2400 for Bambu Labs with heated chamber. I think Qidi has released a game changer based upon own experience doing engineering grade materials on my Q1 and even Xsmart3. Love fact moving up to the 305mm base plate. The new nozzle design looks very good as does the massive build plate. It really looks like Qidi paid attention to detail on this design, learning from past recent releases. I will say Qidi support has been first class. They listen to customer feedback and known to make changes based on customer input to their designs, even will to update manufacturing runs to ensure new additions and changes reach the public fast. You have a new subscriber, appreciate your review!

[@802Garage]

Got my Plus4 and did my first print last night. Came out pretty perfect, though admittedly it was a simple model. I subbed to your channel!

[@ebpman]

@@JTs3DPrints I don't do cosplay stuff or dragons. I run a business and this machine excites me so much. I don't want to spend time tweaking I want an appliance that just prints. As a business owner, time designing and selling is more important. This machine checks that box and has a great size. My prusa is catching dust. Lol

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@ebpmanThat is good to know! I primarily do tons of glass or carbon fiber prints, need the dimensional stability for large prints such as cases and dust handling equipment. I enjoy when I can hit print and know it will come out right the first time. My favorite material is Nylon, love Qidi PAHT-CF it prints gorgeous exceptionally strong prints which work well for some of the tools I have been making. I just picked up three rolls of their ABS-GF25 love that product also, looks great on outer walls with fuzzy skin set for .3 and .3 setting.

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@802GarageCongrats! Good to know, that is one beautiful machine, AMS will add some nice features. I will make poop shoot similar to one Adam Savage has on KZbin.

[@willofthemaker]

@@JTs3DPrints would be really curious to learn more about your success in business and what products you sell and where

[@OZtwo]

What is cool here is soon we will be getting the X-Max 4! I can NOT wait!

[@mattdixon8605]

Great review thanks!!

[@monkeywrench1951]

About the carbon air filter, does it looks like it actually does something ?

[@JohnDoe-ot5ir]

My plus4 is on the way.

[@joaquinmadrid3642]

Is it possible to quickly interchange the nozzles? And what optional nozzles is Qidi offering? And could you please verify the maximum print size? There was another reviewer explaining that it is less than 305x305. Can you confirm this?

[@nachot6592]

Loved the review. Have you tried the Qidi Q1 Pro? If so, how do they compare?

[@jz2188]

Qidi AMS ? Also all the test prints would fit on an A1 mini, use the full build capacity to test it, not a benchy, we want to get a big printer to print big stuff, trinkets are a basic requirement these days not a benchmark

[@Kei_Eichi]

Can I delete the old G-code from the touchscreen of the device? Or do I still need to delete it from Fluidd?

[@peterclegg2609]

Looks superb but the new xmax is the one I'm waiting for, pleased they've changed the look of the printers too.

[@802Garage]

Will likely just be called the Qidi Max4 when it releases.

[@Arnos_3D]

You Must use normal Pla in Black to See real surface. On matt filaments all Printers Looks Great.

[@ebpman]

Thats what we run in our farm. But not all printers do well. I have the following Prusa XL, Creality k1, kic, k1 mac, Flash forge, anycubic, flsun, elegoo, flying bear.... They didnt do well with this pla out of the box. Even with flow and tuning they didnt look as good as my bambu and never made it to may farm lineup. I will have elegoo new one and the creality K2

[@hanakang2794]

About AMS Solution, will the firmware be updated by USB drive? or is it necessary buy new version of Plus 4 on Q1 2025?

[@couryrussell7653]

I’ve watched a few review videos hoping someone might tell me but haven’t seen it yet. Is there a space on this printer to connect an external ventilation hose?

[@tbip2001]

Ive got a sovol sv08 coming today but ill wait a few months before ordering this

[@rayrayrun]

the nozzle have some filament after all that cleaning

[@ebpman]

I noticed that. I have been running it hard. The next job was clean though. I have put it thru 4 rolls so far

[@stew675]

That looked like something stuck to the silicon sock, and mot the nozzle itself.

[@Sonny3140]

nice sales pitch. You read the brochure like a champ. A review would be nice ;

[@802Garage]

LOL what do you think he should have said? "I didn't have any issues and I'm pleased with the speed and quality, so I'm going to make up complaints now so some random thinks I'm being fair!" I just got my Plus4 and the quality is fantastic. Was able to print a print in place bearing with 0.05mm clearances and it came off the plate with zero fused parts. It's fast, has a heated chamber, and it's $799. Who hurt you?

[@Sonny3140]

​@@802Garage i can see straight through you and this dodgy qidi sponsored video. But hey, troll away. I hope your next reply is as funny as the last.

[@802Garage]

@@Sonny3140 Your life must be full of paranoia and bias. Bizarre. I hope you realize that 90% of 3D printer reviews, the printer was given for free and/or the video is sponsored. They all review printers from many brands. This is a good printer. It's that simple.

[@Sonny3140]

@@802Garage if you say so. lol

[@tbip2001]

I agree very much a sales pitch. Not a review

[@juliusedralin311]

Nice review, but sides not so good on the QIDI

[@DownUnderTechReview]

Bad form on the WARNING in the title, sure clickbait works but that word should be used only when there is a potential serious issue not just to get yourself views.

[@tbip2001]

Sonis this good to go out of the box? Or do you jave to do manual z set?

[@stew675]

The Z-offset is done automatically. The stock setup sequence has a manual bed calibration that is actually optional. It allows you to perform a mechanical bed levelling sequence to ensure that the print bed is as flat as possible, before the automated Z-offset and automated bed-levelling measurements take place. You do NOT have to do the mechanical bed levelling as it's already pretty good out of the factory, but the Plus 4 still gives you that option should you want to chase

[@berlinberlin4246]

Why this click bait video title?

[@calilifestyle]

Man the more i see this i really need to sell my q1 pro.

[@shervin2]

Qidi didnt make it big enough sadly. 350mm+ is the sweet spot for people to jump ship from their X1's and P1's. A shame really!

[@802Garage]

Very, very few printers are that large. It's $400 cheaper than an X1C, is quite a bit larger, can print much hotter, has a heated chamber, runs Klipper, and Qidi has great customer service. Their next release will likely be the Max4.

[@rambokd]

I have seen 3 videos similar to this, only 1 said it had major issues. So is this release media hype or is it just ok? I mean the bar is so high and for $800 it needs to be spot on not just have potential.

[@Kimberlie1]

Do you mean Noizie? He just released an updated video. I think maybe you will be interested. He has solved almost all the problems by updating the firmware in his latest video.

[@rambokd]

@@Kimberlie1 So not trying to call anyone out but rebuilding the hotend and securing it properly on a brand new printer is not a firmware update. I see it flaunted as a X1C challenger but with nothing close to the quality of prints. I mean it’s not terrible but every one of the toaster test models were far from excellent and the prints shown had obvious zits and stringing. I know there is a lot of pressure on reviewers to give these pros and cons and I don’t know maybe not get sued. But videos claiming everything is fine when clearly they are not just makes it difficult to decide if it’s worth it or not. I had one in my cart and then slowly backed away. I have been tricked before and am very skeptical now.

[@3DATHENS-qi1tu]

nice video

[@davidcooper574]

305x305 is not that big.

[@ipadize]

Then its not the printer for you

[@802Garage]

It's larger than probably 95% or more of printers currently for sale.

[@davidcooper574]

They should have made it at least the size of the x max 3. Those who print large prints would easily pay more for a large core xy printer. The cosplay crowd would buy it. I print on a neptune 4 plus and 320x320 is not big enough sometimes without having to glue or weld piece together. I wasn’t saying it was a bad printer just wish these manufacturers would make something a little better. Great printers for the money just wish they were at least 350x350.

[@asbcustom]

Great video at 75% speed. Are you late for a parade or ...

[@802Garage]

Here I watched it at 2X.

[@asbcustom]

@@802Garage Speed kills man :)

[@thecsucihai]

A great review like this will draw some attention to the US government NSA agency. I wonder if these high end 3D printers from China will become a national security risk someday?

[@ebpman]

Lol

[@ipadize]

WHAT DID THE NSA DO AGAIN?

[@stew675]

All the source code is available, and if you distrust the executables that are delivered, you can compile them yourself. Qidi has embraced and supports the open source movement. Mind you, out of necessity in terms of support, then soft-lock the firmware versions to their official ones, but if you REALLY distrust them, you can actually throw all of that away and just install your own firmware.

[@thecsucihai]

@@ipadize I think they help the US governemnt justify the banning of all thing Chinese. Welcome to America. The people have no power. DJI, TikTok, Hauwei... "Yes, the US House of Representatives passed a bill to ban new DJI drones from operating in the United States on September 9, 2024. The Countering CCP Drones Act, which received bipartisan support, will now move to the Senate for review. If the Senate adds the bill to the 2025 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), it could eventually land on President Joe Biden's desk. The bill would add DJI to the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) Covered List, which would prevent new DJI drones from operating on US communications networks. This would effectively make them unusable. The bill is part of a larger effort to address potential threats posed to the US by Chinese-made technology. Some lawmakers are concerned that DJI drones collect sensitive information that could be sent back to the parent company, DJI. The US has previously tried to block DJI drones from entering the country, including placing DJI on a sanctions list in 2017. However, the ban was lifted in 2018 after the US Department of Defense found no comparable products in the same price range."

[@thecsucihai]

@@stew675 Open source can't stop the US government. Any bit of data going to China is a national security risk. As far as the US government is concern, the CCP own and run everything Chinese. "Yes, the US House of Representatives passed a bill to ban new DJI drones from operating in the United States on September 9, 2024. The Countering CCP Drones Act, which received bipartisan support, will now move to the Senate for review. If the Senate adds the bill to the 2025 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), it could eventually land on President Joe Biden's desk. The bill would add DJI to the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) Covered List, which would prevent new DJI drones from operating on US communications networks. This would effectively make them unusable. The bill is part of a larger effort to address potential threats posed to the US by Chinese-made technology. Some lawmakers are concerned that DJI drones collect sensitive information that could be sent back to the parent company, DJI. The US has previously tried to block DJI drones from entering the country, including placing DJI on a sanctions list in 2017. However, the ban was lifted in 2018 after the US Department of Defense found no comparable products in the same price range."