ECHO Finale BREAKDOWN and ENDING EXPLAINED - X-Men and Daredevil Connecion EXPLAINED

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@Empress-Sky-of-Brynn
@Empress-Sky-of-Brynn 10 ай бұрын
This show meant a lot to me. My mother (Cherokee) past away when I was young and I felt lost for a long time. It was only recently that I began to return back to my heritage and feel that connection with her again, and my Nana who gave me my name. Seeing all that come through in this show really hit me hard, but in a good way. I wish she lived to see this show but I did, and she echos through me as did her mother and her mother's mother.
@teehud313
@teehud313 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@tyleraviles4518
@tyleraviles4518 10 ай бұрын
Lmao what 🤣 cry me a river
@marshsundeen
@marshsundeen 10 ай бұрын
Hurt people try to hurt others. ​@@tyleraviles4518
@Hasmanian
@Hasmanian 10 ай бұрын
I think the family BBQ was supposed to be in juxtaposition to her Sunday dinners with Fisk; day vs night, outdoors vs indoors, relaxed vs formal, etc.
@zitiadventures6769
@zitiadventures6769 8 ай бұрын
family bbq lol
@LYGALAAWG
@LYGALAAWG 10 ай бұрын
Show was far deeper and more heartfelt then expected. Maya is an excellent character.
@cDOG901
@cDOG901 7 ай бұрын
right!
@caitlindn
@caitlindn 10 ай бұрын
What if Fisk actually does speak a bit of sign language, but refuses to do so as a power move? He did the same thing in Daredevil season 1, pretending to not speak Chinese and have an interpreter to showcase his superiority.
@vingrier87
@vingrier87 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. I thought at the final showdown seen he would have surprised her by knowing extensive sign language
@AmyKaylasVegas
@AmyKaylasVegas 10 ай бұрын
Oh I love that!
@fabiocxx
@fabiocxx 10 ай бұрын
Am I misremembering? I swear he did a bit of signing at some point. To me it represented that. He doesn’t care to sign and wants to show that he doesn’t need to although he knows how to
@caitlindn
@caitlindn 10 ай бұрын
@@fabiocxx yes he did some basic signing in some flashbacks "I love you" and "you and I, we're family" to emphasise that message
@mattgerritsen749
@mattgerritsen749 10 ай бұрын
"the wise man plays the fool"
@Marvelousgamer7697
@Marvelousgamer7697 10 ай бұрын
Maya showed Kingpin the Echos of his past. I think she was trying to break him out of his own mental hell. He's still reliving the memory his father hurting his mother even day. She also showed him the memory of the ice cream vendor. He remembers every kill knowing it was wrong but what's the mindset he's in he still loses himself to his rage. She tried and failed. Instead of trying to erase what's been trapping him behind his own self-made prison bars, instead of trying to leave the worst of his own instincts, he's to afraid. He'd rather stay a rabbit in a snowstorm. I really liked what they tried to do even though it was executed kind of sloppily. Still I do stand by the fact that I think they treated the Legacy characters perfectly and overall I really did like this show. It is still very messy and has a lot of flaws but it had really cool action and character moments. 7.5/10 for the whole show in my opinion!
@ccelite3782
@ccelite3782 10 ай бұрын
...i swear if they talk no jutsu Kingpin into being a good guy, I will never forgive Marvel. That's clearly the direction they're headed in.
@VizionZZYT
@VizionZZYT 10 ай бұрын
I think he is gonna run for mayor, I don't think he's gonna end up being a good guy though.@@ccelite3782
@Marvelousgamer7697
@Marvelousgamer7697 10 ай бұрын
@@ccelite3782 I really don't see them doing that at all. This whole storyline will probably be wrapped up in Spider-Man 4. I think the whole point of the finale of Echo was trying that and failing. Fisk is too far gone by now.
@Glitch-qj3nj
@Glitch-qj3nj 10 ай бұрын
Cool
@rhysjudd5836
@rhysjudd5836 10 ай бұрын
Feel like it could have made him even deadlier and more dangerous like he is in the comics. She has now taken away that pain that he held onto. Now any anger/pain/rage can be more focused on what he wants. Power etc
@MorganJohnston
@MorganJohnston 10 ай бұрын
Did anyone else notice the sign Maya’s mom used for “echo,” in her vision of them in the truck? It’s not the ASL sign for echo, but it is reminiscent of hand handprint on Echo’s face in the comics.
@keiadnae
@keiadnae 10 ай бұрын
I’m that case that was very likely Taloa giving Maya her superhero moniker, in the form of a sign name, which only a Deaf person can give.
@chiefzenon
@chiefzenon 10 ай бұрын
I saw it as Maya’s powers being mystical in nature. Similar to the people of Tao Lo, K’un-Lung, etc.
@shep1807
@shep1807 10 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@markstriker925
@markstriker925 10 ай бұрын
I agree. But mystical powers aren't specific though. It would make sense why at least Maya mom would be a mutant, because she has a specific healing power. It would make more sense if magic users didn't have specific powers. And they just had a bunch of vague and unrelated powers.
@okamifang4059
@okamifang4059 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Of course it can be said it's a mutation but there are spiritual powers in Marvel as well. Like what you said and take Magik for example. Mutant powers and magikal ones.
@vicentebahamondez196
@vicentebahamondez196 10 ай бұрын
Yes and it could aling her to Blade, Moonknight, Werewolf by knight, Agatha and Dark knight maybe with cameos from Wang, Dr Strange or Wanda
@swagrjackrdraws420
@swagrjackrdraws420 10 ай бұрын
I feel like Disney forced them to include those powers I think it was dumb and was unnecessary she’s supposed to be able to mimic people’s powers and I thinks that’s way cooler then changing her powers it was so stupid how they did it too
@MovieTvDrama
@MovieTvDrama 10 ай бұрын
I really like how Maya and at least a couple other of her ancestors already developed unique skill sets on their own before they got the ancestral power up.
@indatube
@indatube 10 ай бұрын
They changed her powers from being a basic mimic like Taskmaster to being able to access the skills and abilities of her ancestral line. Maya is a capable combatant on her own, but now she can tap into gunslinging and healing etc.
@VitaPlenaReactionVideos
@VitaPlenaReactionVideos 10 ай бұрын
I think I've enjoyed these reviews as much as the show itself. Ryan and the other writers really have great insight on the show's overall purpose and meaning. I totally agree on their take to leave the spiritual aspects alone and not overexplain it with aliens.
@BensBrickDesigns
@BensBrickDesigns 10 ай бұрын
I wanted to also mention that the sun symbol Maya's been wearing has grown on different outfits since the show started. It was a small one above her heart, then a larger central one, then finally a really big one on her lower right side. I don't know the symbolism of a setting sun that's getting larger, but there you go.
@rigorobo
@rigorobo 10 ай бұрын
I think her father also had a sun tattoo on his neck
@davidletarte214
@davidletarte214 10 ай бұрын
11:10 regarding the inconsistencies with the hammers i just assumed that in Daredevil they showed us how it actually happened but, since people's memories are not reliable & are actually quite fluid, in Echo his memory of the hammer is just naturally a bit different from reality... cause the themes & meaning are all still there & consistent.
@ghiggs8389
@ghiggs8389 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking this exact same thing.
@eh1843
@eh1843 10 ай бұрын
I haven't seen all of Echo but I was wondering if the ballpen hammer was used to kill Vanessa.
@THATSJUSTMARUSKA
@THATSJUSTMARUSKA 9 ай бұрын
he did show her the hammer beforehand tho, in the casino hotel so that wasnt in his mind?
@danielhenderson3753
@danielhenderson3753 10 ай бұрын
The picnic at the end of Echo wasn't just cute. It was the first time that she re-embraced her real family. She fought it, was taking advantage of it to pursue her own ends (as Kingpin would) or was dealing with issues within it until this exact moment. Even they seemed surprised. So it's cool.
@CatJabZ
@CatJabZ 10 ай бұрын
This picnic was deserved.
@microscopic.caterpill
@microscopic.caterpill 10 ай бұрын
Acts of Communion
@AmyKaylasVegas
@AmyKaylasVegas 10 ай бұрын
A picnic at the end like She-Hulk. So original.
@T4KMedia
@T4KMedia 10 ай бұрын
@@AmyKaylasVegasshe hulk was a terrible show the writing in it was so sad 😂 I would never in my life watch that ever again even hulk in that show was SADDD and his son looked HORRIBLE nah bro
@What-ish
@What-ish 10 ай бұрын
​@@AmyKaylasVegasWhat a calamity.
@yourtube1424
@yourtube1424 10 ай бұрын
Solid show, so refreshing having something new and a character to care for going forwards! So much real history brought into the story is honestly heartwarming. I also don’t mind not having a big battle finale, even though it ended quite quickly. Street level is setting up very nicely!
@RyanHaney55
@RyanHaney55 10 ай бұрын
Black Knife people were listed in the end credits. I like the power echoing through generations. Family barbecues are things people do for real, so it didn't bother me.
@carlosvillanueva8530
@carlosvillanueva8530 10 ай бұрын
It weird but every culture seems to have a barbecue that is specific to their culture. Each is different, each group cooks something different over an open flame. I had never realized how many cultures and ethnicities break out the grill until I moved to Hawaii and was adopted into families.
@GenerallDRK
@GenerallDRK 10 ай бұрын
- I love Maya 😍❤️‍🔥. - Enjoyed the scenery of her home Town - Enjoyed the action scenes - Definitely loved seeing KP & DD again - Wish it had more episodes to flush things out instead of rushing + the editing could've been better - Binge model >>>>> 7/10
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 10 ай бұрын
Definitely needed at least 8. I wanted to be there for longer.
@allthatwecan
@allthatwecan 10 ай бұрын
Great show, cool to see Choctaw culture embraced and included within the production. They did this right.
@DeedeeDirt
@DeedeeDirt 10 ай бұрын
i like that her power was literally drawing strength from her ancestors, my grandpa was the last of my family to live on choctaw territory and this show has been really cool for me to see an mcu version of our creation story and history and current culture on screen. the healing hands stuff was a little disappointing since it does point more in the mutant powers direction, but i guess I'm not terribly upset with it either.
@JebJebJebbers
@JebJebJebbers 10 ай бұрын
I liked the change in powers. Making her echo the abilities of her ancestors is more interesting than a rehash of Taskmaster. The idea that she can echo the abilities into her family members was a cool twist too.
@smoketwo818
@smoketwo818 10 ай бұрын
This shit was wack
@JebJebJebbers
@JebJebJebbers 10 ай бұрын
@@smoketwo818 what do you consider good
@lowkeyobsessedngl
@lowkeyobsessedngl 10 ай бұрын
she literally became Choctaw Avatar. she even spiritbent Kingpin into submission. though personally I would have wanted a traditional finale beatdown.
@erikagholston6610
@erikagholston6610 10 ай бұрын
I loved the twist.
@brianmcandrew7374
@brianmcandrew7374 10 ай бұрын
She still has the mimic powers.
@Kayleigh789
@Kayleigh789 10 ай бұрын
As someone who is not too familiar with Echo in the comics, I loved the lineage story line - the theme of family throughout this show was so well done ❤
@BensBrickDesigns
@BensBrickDesigns 10 ай бұрын
I had fun watching this and was eager to see each episode. And it wasn't too long, it'd make a good movie-sized chunk of viewing. As far as her powers go, I wouldn't be surprised if this was as big as it gets and moving forward she merely taps into some knowledge or small trait that helps her now and then. I don't think she'll be the next Kahhori, and I don't think she's a mutant. I think it's okay to have unexplained generational powers that are kinda mystical.
@peterjaketalkswrasslin6920
@peterjaketalkswrasslin6920 10 ай бұрын
This entire coverage of Echo has been top notch. Thank you for all you guys efforts.
@maxanluulnaxam1102
@maxanluulnaxam1102 10 ай бұрын
If you watch the show with CC on you’ll notice that the first ASL interpreter in the limo with Fisk and Maya is credited as ‘ASL interpreter 1’. So you kinda know where it’s going.
@RandyMarsh0301
@RandyMarsh0301 10 ай бұрын
The scene between Maya and her mom brought a tear to my eye.
@jackgrimm1227
@jackgrimm1227 10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Echo, I can definitely see Kingpin being a street level Thanos. Would love to see the Defenders come back.
@carlosvillanueva8530
@carlosvillanueva8530 10 ай бұрын
Defenders was a terrible show because everyone had the same power, no ranged weapons, no aerial combatants, the team needed variety and versatility.
@ABadJokeYT
@ABadJokeYT 10 ай бұрын
@@carlosvillanueva8530 L take they were different, you clearly never watched any of their shows. Don't like that all of them are street level, then don't watch it 🤷‍♂
@carlosvillanueva8530
@carlosvillanueva8530 10 ай бұрын
@@ABadJokeYT I didn't
@brianisaksen2274
@brianisaksen2274 10 ай бұрын
Defenders was dope. Miserable people just like to hate on everything.
@ronnie3489
@ronnie3489 10 ай бұрын
Defenders and Netflix shows are miles better then any Disney plus shows
@HissoriRenda
@HissoriRenda 10 ай бұрын
Ryan you guys killed the coverage of this one kudos to you
@blusky8930
@blusky8930 10 ай бұрын
I enjoy the kingpin healing part it reminds me of the story of the Great law of Peace of the Haudenosaunee and how “Hiawatha” goes and retrieves medicines to heal “thadotaho” (the entangled one) even though thadotaho had killed Hiawathas daughters, it was that act along with Jagohsase combing the snakes from his hair that broke thadotaho away from the darkside turning him to peace, it’s like the ultimate form of Love trumps hate.❤
@emmalavinia9962
@emmalavinia9962 10 ай бұрын
Such a beatufil show. Did not expect to like it this much. That scene between Maya and her mom brought tears to my eyes.
@saml302
@saml302 10 ай бұрын
I loved this show, thanks for covering it!
@juancortes5274
@juancortes5274 10 ай бұрын
I binged watched it yesterday since it was my day off and I loved the show!
@carlosvillanueva8530
@carlosvillanueva8530 10 ай бұрын
Did the same and for the same reason.
@fernandodecarlosmalcher7977
@fernandodecarlosmalcher7977 10 ай бұрын
I really liked this show, I know is not gonna be for everyone, but I still really enjoyed maya and her journey (also I love your dog and the voice you make, so adorable)
@jacobholly2096
@jacobholly2096 10 ай бұрын
Maya doesn't have to be a mutant I mean other heroes in the MCU has abilities as well but aren't mutants so Maya doesn't have to be one let he just have abilities.
@connorkenney6938
@connorkenney6938 10 ай бұрын
Kind of like black panther tbh
@Spidershoes
@Spidershoes 10 ай бұрын
But where do the abilities come from? I agree it seems more mystic than mutation. I don't think Maya will end up being a mutant, but it seems like she has mystic powers, mystic strength. Dr. Strange, Moon Knight, Black Panther. I really like Maya and I have been discouraged about the MCU lately, but this Echo series has given me a small seed of hope that maybe Feige hasn't given up, hasn't lost his mind, maybe hasn't lost all control, and may deliver us another decade of 80% good movies, culminating in another epic BIG SCREEN event. I want to see Maya, Moon Knight, Daredevil, Luke Cage, and JJ, running at Dr. Doom's army with the Avengers, some X-Men, and the FF by her side. It can be done.
@ronniejohnson1302
@ronniejohnson1302 10 ай бұрын
It is in up there as a good series. I really love the show. Alot of great acting. Ms. Cox was amazing. Looking forward to DD again. I really like the street side of these series.
@DEMA_F-zt6on
@DEMA_F-zt6on 10 ай бұрын
Wait why everyone said daredevil born again will be cancel ? & They're some rumours said that they'll change the title from born again to S4 . Is it true ?
@gabrielmurray929
@gabrielmurray929 10 ай бұрын
Vanessa was announced for Born Again even if it's a different actress than who played her in the Netflix show.
@jackobic7376
@jackobic7376 10 ай бұрын
I thought it was pretty clear that when he said "I lost someone who i love" he was referring to maya.
@carlosvillanueva8530
@carlosvillanueva8530 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, I rewound that to see if he had said "love" or "loved".
@DJSinisterMetal
@DJSinisterMetal 10 ай бұрын
The neck tattoo was seen on Zane and all of his men. Zane is the MCU version of Teodor Zarco, the leader of the Black Knive Cartel in the comics. And Zane's goons were credited as "Black Knives".
@TheLegendaryMovieCritic
@TheLegendaryMovieCritic 10 ай бұрын
So excited for the Devil Reign storyline in Daredevil: Born Again after Echo!
@MusicLover-my6fo
@MusicLover-my6fo 10 ай бұрын
If Namor's mutant backstory was slightly changed to make it more indigenous, then I suppose it could work for Maya as well. I think Marvel could go either way with this since Echo at her core is still a "street level character", so if they want to make her a mutant, cool if not then it still works.
@shawngilbert5199
@shawngilbert5199 10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed watching Echo and was expecting it to go in s different direction based on the trailer, but was pleasantly surprised how it played out. I did get a little worried when Maya attempted to heal Fisk in that we would not see the Kingpin, but I believe that he will be more clear headed in his ambition to rule over New York and possibly the world.
@danielhenderson3753
@danielhenderson3753 10 ай бұрын
I actually think that Marvel did a pretty slick bait-and-switch promo campaign. From the ads and trailers you'd think Echo would be kicking ass for 3/5ths of it and get maybe one episode of family backstory in Tahama. Instead, it was an improvement on the Marvel episode formula that intensified the occasional confrontations but spent nearly the entire series planted in Choctaw culture. So the Netflix Daredevil crew showed up and was treated to one of the better proper Marvel tv show that seriously leaned into the cultural awareness--they had the Choctaw nation read the script and sign off on the whole thing, and then credited them at the end. Super classy. Hopefully the show worked for everyone.
@DEMA_F-zt6on
@DEMA_F-zt6on 10 ай бұрын
Wait why everyone said daredevil born again TV show will be cancel ? & They are some rumours said they will change the title from born again to S4 . Is it true ?
@HappyBob701
@HappyBob701 10 ай бұрын
they are going to make it more similar to the netflix daredevil series after backlash to she hulk, DD born again leaks and Marvel's childish tone generally@@DEMA_F-zt6on
@danielhenderson3753
@danielhenderson3753 10 ай бұрын
@@DEMA_F-zt6on it's getting reworked. I suspect it wasn't up to the latest (higher) writing standards, which Feige and co. have cracked down on after a disastrous 2023. We'll see.
@ghiggs8389
@ghiggs8389 10 ай бұрын
​@@danielhenderson3753yeah, I think that's exactly it. Remember, they hired writers from the Arrowverse initially for it, which had me super worried. Guess they laid the rotten egg I was expecting and the higher ups sniffed it out and said "nope, try again" before it hit us. And for that I'm grateful.
@danielhenderson3753
@danielhenderson3753 10 ай бұрын
@@ghiggs8389 likewise. I am sooo grateful.
@blusky8930
@blusky8930 10 ай бұрын
in many native cultures we have what they call “spirit retrieval” were we go back in our memories in a meditative state and retrieve our spirit from a past trauma to align ourselves on the correct path we were destined to be on, as depicted in the show Mayas mother brings maya back to the car crash were Maya watched her mother die the mothers spirit then puts her hands on mayas head which heals maya from her past trauma which originally sets maya down a dark path from childhood.
@MrDemian0666
@MrDemian0666 10 ай бұрын
I think it was solid. Def could have used a couple more episodes to give more back stories on the other characters. I think even Vickie could have used a little context. Seeing him and maya when they were little, maybe getting a black crow backstory and showing him bringing Vickie into his world…. I didn’t love the ending but otherwise I think it was pretty solid.
@CatJabZ
@CatJabZ 10 ай бұрын
Echo is a descendent of a powerful savior that saves her people from the cave collapse so I think it's perfectly fine for her to have powers. Although she is a badass in her own right. Speaking of superhuman, Alaqua Cox is amazing! As a hearing impaired person myself and learning ASL I loved this show. D'Onofrio, as always, is brilliant. Long live the King!
@Angellance7
@Angellance7 10 ай бұрын
Very small thing... but Echo throwing out what kingpin gave her to understand each other is just disposing of Kingpin's manipulation and motivation, the whole functionality of the object is different from kingpin himself because it can be done with pure intention so most likely it wouldn't be wrong if she decides to reshape that tech to her own meaning.
@rorycalhoun5431
@rorycalhoun5431 10 ай бұрын
Not a mutant. Probably a Great Spirit link passed down through from Chafa to current generation.
@carstenlizardschulz3128
@carstenlizardschulz3128 10 ай бұрын
Roxxon was also featured as an easter egg in the often overlooked Helstrom series, which was rather thrilling for the first couple episodes, but sadly went downhill with the final ones.
@tsmacks9
@tsmacks9 10 ай бұрын
Also fisk crying looks EXACTLY like Fisk from the animated Fox Spiderman show when he was trying to climb that ladder to escape the cops with his dad. Very spot on.
@buildingbread
@buildingbread 10 ай бұрын
I feel like I am on an island. The show felt disjointed and “jumpy.” I can’t recall a single scene that really stood out other than the daredevil cameo. At least Secret Invasion had the poem scene with Fury and his wife that was amazing.
@JohnLaw3742
@JohnLaw3742 10 ай бұрын
The first scene of the series where the creator emerges from the cave looked a lot like teragenesis to me. If so, that makes Echo and Inhuman, and maybe then all Inhumans are mutants in the MCU? Maybe a way to finally bring in Quake to join Echo and Ms Marvel? (Also, I believe that lake and lake house is the same one as in Avengers Endgame.)
@beningram1811
@beningram1811 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure. In some ways Inhuman would fit better, since they're a lineage of people from an event way in the past, and they pretty much all have powers of some sort. Mutants are also shown to be able to reproduce and Make More Mutants, but are often just a random genetic mutation in an otherwise human lineage. They could go either way with it being a family line of powered individuals. We've not really seen much made of Mutants yet, although there have been strong hints that certain characters are Mutants, and we have seen some confirmed Mutants in other universes/timelines/whatever they want to call those end credits scenes.
@debkunkel5840
@debkunkel5840 10 ай бұрын
I didn't take Echo being given super/mutant powers. More along the line of the traditional healer that many traditions have and a way to visualize this. I loved this season as they integrate both her deafness and Choctaw heritage. I hope that they do another series with her as the focus. And a Kingpin centered series would also be awesome. But I'll watch Vincent D'Onofrio read a phone book.
@derrickdeak5270
@derrickdeak5270 10 ай бұрын
Kingpin knows countless languages. He knows ASL. Same as he knows Chinese and keeps it a secret in the Netflix shows. It’s about power. Manipulation. Never showing his full hand. Using Bonnie to translate wasn’t necessary. It was manipulation. A threat
@RobertSandell
@RobertSandell 10 ай бұрын
I don't remember if you mentioned this in the previous episode but they spent CGI money on making kingpins eye patch look like some future tech that was healing him. That indicates to me that that little tidbit is important somehow. Otherwise they wouldn't have spent the CGI money on it I believe.
@carlosvillanueva8530
@carlosvillanueva8530 10 ай бұрын
Chekhov's gun says it's so.
@markstriker925
@markstriker925 10 ай бұрын
MCU tech is next level.
@_TasMatt
@_TasMatt 10 ай бұрын
What a great combo Ryan and Colton make! Awesome writing and presentation!
@PrincessMoonbeam
@PrincessMoonbeam 10 ай бұрын
Why is Ryan trying to make it some big cliche that we see people breaking bread together at the end of the series. The significant characters had already had resolutions to their emotional arcs in the show. All that was needed was for the audience to be reassured that Maya's extended family had been reunited, and the barbeque scene did that perfectly.
@oscarmerlin1143
@oscarmerlin1143 10 ай бұрын
Tantoo and Graham first worked together as a couple in Dances with Wolves. They were very young and now to see them playing basically the same couple except modern and older 😊 is amazing
@ericjome7284
@ericjome7284 10 ай бұрын
The dream sequences of the Kingpin are just that, dreams and memories. They are not canonical flashback.
@JacSebregts
@JacSebregts 10 ай бұрын
The Defenders saga is added to the MCU timeline on Disney+
@BlackHatCinephile
@BlackHatCinephile 10 ай бұрын
Real Defenders are Doctor Strange, Valkyrie, Moondragon, Black Knight and The Hulk.
@deeobrien5417
@deeobrien5417 10 ай бұрын
Ah I love that since you put out this video it’s been announced bullseye/poindexter from daredevil is coming back! Only catching up with your echo breakdowns now!
@anthonyufert8477
@anthonyufert8477 10 ай бұрын
I really liked the show and it’s gotten me even more excited for DD series. I don’t necessarily have a problem with Echo being a mutant but I agree that everyone doesn’t need a flashy superpower. I assumed when Kingpin said he lost someone when talking to Chula, he was talking about Maya since she didn’t leave with him to go back to NY. Maya chose her real family over Kingpin. Also, I don’t think Vanessa’s dead cos I could’ve sworn she was recast not too long ago for the DD series.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 ай бұрын
It isn't necessarily the x gene and it isn't even flashy. Her hands slightly glow for super strength but the rest of the skills are just that: skills. This sets her up to be a lot more proficient and comfortable acquiring the Phoenix for a bit but it isn't Kahhori flight/lasers/etc
@markstriker925
@markstriker925 10 ай бұрын
​@@nailinthefashionDidn't think about it like that when it comes to the Phoenix. That's actually a good idea.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 10 ай бұрын
@@markstriker925 Phoenix Song was criminally underrated lol. If anything, spotlight makes me more excited for random lil adventures like these
@tomhargett3367
@tomhargett3367 10 ай бұрын
Regarding the hammer, it could also be possible that we aren't seeing how events actually happened, but as Fisk remembers them. As a counselor, I'll say that trauma can affect people's memories in weird ways.
@NoahFan114
@NoahFan114 10 ай бұрын
I personally was hoping for a more bad-ass, actiony finale.
@KrazyKobold
@KrazyKobold 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this properly *episode by episode), even if they did release it all in one day
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 10 ай бұрын
Just finished the series i thought echo was solid show it did great job giving us the Netflix feels ,and high improvements after secret invasion overall I liked it 7/10 hopefully marvel keeping this more mature tone for some of the D+ shows. I liked maya finding her place in the lineage of choctaw women was beautiful seeing her cousin ,and grandmother helping out in the final fight against kingpin groons was cool interesting use of maya power to heal kingpin's trauma mirroring her own healing moving forward after her dads death cant wait to see more of kingpin as mayor in MCU it would be interesting to see him struggling with morality for the first time in daredevils born again.
@wbennin
@wbennin 10 ай бұрын
I liked how it ended with her healing Fisk (or at least trying to) subverting the usual punch em up.
@allisonwagg1025
@allisonwagg1025 10 ай бұрын
I would've like to have this series play with more of a horror element inwhich the spirits where blurred and when present allowed for jump scares. Echo would have to dealing with seeing things that were not there and being afraid and learning that they were peaceful and at the end not be scary or blurred, but are clear, peaceful and her ancestors were ready to help her because she was ready to see them.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 10 ай бұрын
DOUG!!!! RYAN!!!!! WRITER COLTON!!! CAMEO JESSICA!!! THANKS to all of you for wrapping this up so well!!!!! And of course Maya is a mutant!!!! And look: Marvel loves B'que!!!! LOL!!!! And yes for Defenders 2.0!!!
@Rebeccaac
@Rebeccaac 10 ай бұрын
I didn’t expect to be so moved by the acting in the series. I was so happy when Henry was with the family at the end, and when Scully and Chula reunited or at least seemed to. I also got a kick out of seeing/hearing our local NY1 reporters in the final post credits clip!
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 10 ай бұрын
I hope luke cage saw that same interview ,and ends up running against kingpin for mayor 😂.
@Sharcooterie-m5q
@Sharcooterie-m5q 10 ай бұрын
its not his father or vanessa, he was talking about losing maya
@JonLundy0
@JonLundy0 10 ай бұрын
13:57 going out of your way to leave out Iron Fist 😂
@CarvC23_
@CarvC23_ 10 ай бұрын
Echo series, a show that was hype from the beginning, led to somewhat a final battle disappointment but ends with questions for the future. I entered this show with expectations to be just like the daredevil series with a well balance of extreme fight scenes but also story telling and life challenges.
@johnnieandtraci
@johnnieandtraci 10 ай бұрын
I think you're right about Chafa and the first Choctaw not being from Earth. Not sure how they got inside of him but I think the "cave" they started in was actually the inside of the Celestial Tiamut. The blue glowing water, remember when Ego shared his power with Peter, it was also blue. The answer to is Maya a mutant depends on how that Celestial energy works. Maybe every descendant from Chafa has mutated DNA from the Celestial energy or maybe some of that energy transfers from one generation to the next.
@will2Collett
@will2Collett 10 ай бұрын
Did you know that Queen Marie antoinette apologized to the executioner for stepping on his foot??? The head came off anyway.I wish they were more focused on Echo's character more for this show. It's sad this felt more like a filler. It had a really good premise. I enjoyed this. Thanks doug and his person.
@slospop1125
@slospop1125 10 ай бұрын
I liked the series overall, but I think the ending could've been better. For Fisk to be taken seriously as a threat he needed some kind of victory, even if it was just a small one (ex killing one of Maya's family members or destroying the house Maya was living in), something to show he means business. It's was the same problem with Kang, how are we suppose to take a major villain seriously if we only him lose. In the original Daredevil Fisk lost, but was able to get a few smaller victories against Matt.
@patricias7346
@patricias7346 10 ай бұрын
I was wondering if Kingpin’s own memories from the Daredevil are not accurate, as is true of many traumatic experience and that explains the inconsistencies
@Alexander-u1v8d
@Alexander-u1v8d 10 ай бұрын
Day two of waiting for episodes 1, 2 and 5 breakdown of percy jackson, promised 8 days ago
@BigPlayG93
@BigPlayG93 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure she just has some kind of ancestral powers but If she's a mutant her power is literally "One for All" from My Hero Academia.
@markstriker925
@markstriker925 10 ай бұрын
Good comparison 😂.
@plasticfrank
@plasticfrank 10 ай бұрын
Great. Instead of everyone being a supersoldier now everyone is a mutant. Such subtle, creative storytelling.
@profkaineb
@profkaineb 10 ай бұрын
A LuLu Clemons shout out was the unexpected joy this video provided, hitting the subscribe button
@gregharmon9647
@gregharmon9647 10 ай бұрын
I went into viewing Echo with a super low bar. Rumors had it being a disaster. Echo was actually pretty good in my opinion. I could nit pick a couple things, but it finally did a good job of developing the character. She has the most emotionally fleshed out story of any Disney Plus Marvel show, besides Lori and Scarlet Witch. And they had several movies to get them there. Good job, and congrats to the folks on Echo.
@AyoD33
@AyoD33 10 ай бұрын
It probably wouldve been too much but it would’ve been cool if they linked Maya’s ancestors to the Kahori character from What If season 2.
@stefanjopp2136
@stefanjopp2136 10 ай бұрын
„Avengers lol you‘ll see“ 😂 That caught me off guard, I found that so funny for some reason 😂
@carloscardenas5947
@carloscardenas5947 10 ай бұрын
I think Maya would be more of a magical being than a mutant due to her people's origins. Also, I was hoping you would talk about how Kingpin's not wearing white anymore. Apart from that, I really liked the show, but I don't think you could actually understand some parts without watching previous ones. That "Marvel Spotlight" thing seems to be half-baked.
@Demente-eh5ro
@Demente-eh5ro 10 ай бұрын
Kingpin Reminded Me Of Dr Claw Sitting in Front Of All Those TV Screen
@yourtube1424
@yourtube1424 10 ай бұрын
I think the Kahhori What If episode was giving us clues of what her and Echo could by and how their powers work. With the tesseract pool acting like a fountain of youth to the invaders that were looking for it, I think in the first episode of Echo we had Chafa and her people by similar waters so I assume that the tesseract is what has initially installed these powers in Mayas first generation, which has then passed down to the women of her bloodline.
@Endgame_01
@Endgame_01 10 ай бұрын
The swirly water thing reminds me of Soul Reaver. Oh and the Fibbonacci sequence doesn't double itself every iteration. Each iteration is the sub of the previous two. For example, 5 is the sum of 3 and 2 and 8 is the sum of 5 and 3.
@IamDeathIncarnate1337
@IamDeathIncarnate1337 10 ай бұрын
I just realised Kingpin's dad was played by the same guy who plays Russo in Reacher S2. great actor, Domenick Lombardozzi.
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 10 ай бұрын
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@SilentJay8
@SilentJay8 10 ай бұрын
Ryan on every single video ever: “In this scene, Maya takes a drink. This is a reference to Chula, the first woman, who also…took a drink.” See a cigarette butt on the street; “Here we see a discarded cigarette butt - this harkens back to the ancestral burning of…”
@DJMarcO138
@DJMarcO138 10 ай бұрын
Your merch sucks. Fire Ryan and promote Colton!
@SomeGirl3H
@SomeGirl3H 10 ай бұрын
I must say that it has really irked me that this show is about a very strong, powerful woman & her equally badass female ancestors, yet you are only hawking merch that features Kingpin & Daredevil (who was only in maybe 2 minutes of a single episode). The only merch you’ve featured that actually mentions Echo is sign language for the name? That’s it? Y’all need to be better.
@Phosfit
@Phosfit 10 ай бұрын
5:28 rather than making things easy, it would be more fun to see how a team interacts and adapts to a member not being able to hear them. As long as Maya teams up with poor superheroes like Tom Scott oops I mean Tom Holland, then the audience shouldn't have the idea of "why don't they just buy one of those contact lenses?"
@tonycumberbatch7651
@tonycumberbatch7651 10 ай бұрын
Hey Ryan.. The Crossed Sword pointing downwards in heraldry means, the fight/war is over. Most often associated with those that have served in the Navy.
@benitoelwerito
@benitoelwerito 9 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed the show. Can't wait to see more Echo and how they plan on expanding her powers like in the comics.
@khairilhafizi
@khairilhafizi 10 ай бұрын
I don’t know what the Disney’s management thinking by putting all of Echo episode out at once. It may shows signed of them not feeling confident enough for this series, but tbh, this Echo series really blows my mind. A fresh take on Marvel series, hardcore but not too dark, grounded, and another hybrids of human & outer-dimensional being like Kamala, Shang-chi. I wouldn’t mind if we have Echo season two and explore Oklahoma, Choctaw tribe and Maya’s people. Maybe even against their natural enemy’s from their ancestors’ dimension.
@samurexatlas7373
@samurexatlas7373 10 ай бұрын
Maya's powers seem to be fairly tame at least. I only really have issue with her and her Echos standing PERFECTLY STRAIGHT. TWICE. Let them represent themselves with their poses, that's lineup 101.
@jimkernohan4534
@jimkernohan4534 10 ай бұрын
The contacts could not have had a tracker in them because earlier, one of Kingpin's henchmen says that they lost her. If she had a tracker, they would not have.
@DJ88Masterchief
@DJ88Masterchief 10 ай бұрын
Perfect just finished the last episode.
@pompeiicruz6927
@pompeiicruz6927 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. Finally someone said what I’ve theorized this whole time. That the Netflix series might be from a very similar parallel universe. Like it’s 95% canon
@jazzreldeguzman
@jazzreldeguzman 10 ай бұрын
I like the series over all and only now did I release that Maya is basically the avatar like Aang with the ancestors connection.
@UmeNekoreon
@UmeNekoreon 10 ай бұрын
I thought exactly the same ! And she did to Kingpin what he did to the Firelord (to remove hid bending)
@hiren_bhatt
@hiren_bhatt 5 ай бұрын
You didn't notice that the spiral in her hands also represents chakras and it's healing powers, something similar to Reiki. 🌀
@KingfisherTalkingPictures
@KingfisherTalkingPictures 9 ай бұрын
I felt that the wall smashing was the monster of his rage starting to smash through the wall to kill him.
@RobStevens64
@RobStevens64 10 ай бұрын
I've been thinking about it. For someone like Fisk, carrying so much pain around from that moment, I'd be willing to bet that not only did he not keep the hammer, but even having a regular ol' claw hammer at all would be too triggering. So he picked a hammer he could stand being around and chose the ball peen hammer. I didn't really have too much of an issue with Maya getting powers, but I did feel that it immediately made her less interesting.
@jamesmoten7222
@jamesmoten7222 10 ай бұрын
I love that the first Marvel spotlight series is about a Native American hero, like the first issue of Marvel spotlight comic that features Redwolf.
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