We Bought a $70,000 FISKER OCEAN! | What We Bought & Why | Long-Term Test Intro

[@edmundscars]

We're excited to add the Fisker Ocean to our long-term fleet and chart its growth over the next year and 20,000 miles. Is there anything you'd like to see us do with this new electric SUV? An ocean-to-ocean road trip perhaps? Let us know in the comments below!

[@BBingo-v5i]

Destroy it

[@nickanselmo8619]

List price for extreme is 62k. You could start by giving accurate information...

[@tribalypredisposed]

Literally one video exists of this supposed "SUV" driving on a road that curves, and the guy was going 25 MPH. Please actually test the Ocean's handling on curves at speed. A moose test would be great. A lap on a twisty race track. And zero video exists of this "SUV" on even a dirty paved road, let alone a dirt road or anything remotely close to what an SUV should be able to drive on.

[@nickanselmo8619]

@tribalypredisposed literally there are dozens of videos of the ocean speeding around on a track, windy roads, on ice and snow. They partnered with a race car driver to test the car... do some research. You clearly didn't try very hard

[@tribalypredisposed]

@@nickanselmo8619 literally there is one video posted this week, and an oval track is not the kind of track I mean. Go ahead and post some links of what you think I missed. Do some research, you clearly are making stuff up.

[@watchornot3691]

I look forward to good quality diversity in this market. I am rooting for Fisker, along with many others as we the consumer are the benefactors of solid competition. Nice range numbers!

[@markplott4820]

MAGNA is not known for Good Quality.

[@bartoszjankowiak3157]

​@@markplott4820 really? Any examples? I am really interested in this topic?

[@johnanderson9735]

Right the money!

[@markplott4820]

@@bartoszjankowiak3157 - JAG i Pace , JAG F - Pace , Fisker , Toyota Supra, Chrysler Voyager, Cheap Grand Cherokee, Chrysler PT, Cheap Commander, mini Countryman , mini Paceman .......more.

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

Electronic diversity too...not google based is a refreshing positive IMO

[@titaniumsandwedge]

Congrats! Your new Ocean is now worth $30k.

[@AndriiSobianin]

*20

[@grloiselle53]

Fr imma buy this same one of cargurus for 25k in a few months

[@TOTTLIVE]

20,000 to be exact 😂

[@IvanPlayStation4LiFe]

14k

[@lxDastanxl]

If it holds for over 150.000 miles then it would go around that price anyways SOOO not really a lose

[@bonk65]

Other growing pains are customer service, service calls, repairs, call backs, annoying issues with a car (like locking/unlocking) that is well build well but the annoyances take away a lot of pleasure. Glad to see an honest review because all the aww and owww.. in admiration is lost on me. Have owned it since Nov-1-2023 and still no title/registration.

[@BartSantello]

Did a test drove at the FISKER meetup recently. The car is magnificently built, and stylish. No issues with the test drive. I'm sold. I put in an order for the Sport model.

[@ChristianC-gy1ym]

no issues with the test drive? how long as your test drive?

[@minnguyen4872]

😅

[@minnguyen4872]

no issue with drive test ... i want to ask you again for this

[@alananderson7903]

Company is about to go bankrupt. LMAO.

[@LavonYT]

Check out mkhbd review on this trash of a car

[@mrbear3487]

This dude got taken for a ride and he 🎥 it for the hole world to see. Seen them for 18 thousand on Facebook marketplace

[@henryajohnson1]

Important note about boosts: It is not 500 for the LIFE of the vehicle, it is 500 for the WARRANTY of the vehicle, as it degrades the CATL batteries. You can use boosts after the 500 mark!

[@tribalypredisposed]

Oh, it "just" voids the warranty early if you use it more than 500 times? No worries then, Fisker will not be around to honor the warranty much longer anyway!

[@nickanselmo8619]

@tribalypredisposed why are you here blowing up the comment section if you aren't even interested in the vehicle. Get a new hobby, your intentions are clear.

[@tribalypredisposed]

@@nickanselmo8619 yes, I am here, as I have been since 2015 everywhere on the Internet, warning people about giving their money to the walking definition of scam artist that is Henrik Fisker. Fisker started this company with claims of a supercapacitors breakthrough, and a graphene production machine breakthrough, and a battery division lead by "nanotech expert" Jack Kavanough, with patents. A few months later Fisker claimed the supercapacitors were already in production. The supercapacitors were science fair ready, fit in the palm of a hand and lit a single LED. The graphene production machine was a DVD burner. Jack Kavanough is a retired dentist scam artist who had recently been found by a court to have defrauded investors and sold a fake Picasso. No patents existed. Never mind, Fisker then claimed to have a solid state battery breakthrough, with fifteen patents. What he had was an effort to steal IP from QuantumScape which failed and resulted in a $750,000 fine levied by the judge. No patents. Now Fisker has already sold hundreds of millions worth of Fisker stock, and has it sitting in his bank accounts, and even with the stock at eighty cents Fisker is not using his hundreds of millions from this scam company to buy stock. Who do you think knows more about the prospects of Fisker, you, or Henrik Fisker? Fisker clearly thinks his company is doomed, or he would be buying the stock.

[@bzdtemp]

@@tribalypredisposed 500 is a lot. Not many, if any cars are going to come close to the limit.

[@tribalypredisposed]

@@bzdtemp I agree with your conclusion, but only because I think Ocean owners will not be able to drive their cars for very long after Fisker goes bankrupt.

[@JEinDC]

I'm glad that Edmunds bought one of these things so I can learn about their experience with it. The Fisker Ocean looks good, and it's always interesting to see new products from new companies. That being said, the real question is: What normal car buyer in their right mind is spending (or planning to spend) their hard-earned money on a Fisker? $70K is a lot of money to shell out for an experiment (as is $40K, $50K etc.). I wouldn't buy a TV or a cell phone from a startup, much less a car. And yes, I know the man behind the company has been in the automotive field for years and this isn't his first rodeo, but his previous efforts have been less than successful. There is no dealer network or service support (at least for now). Probably no parts availability when service issues arise or body repairs are needed. Unproven resale value (which will likely end up being low to nonexistent). Plus, there is a better than average chance that the company won't even survive over the long haul and buyers will be left owning a $70K paperweight. Again, who are the people taking on this kind of risk and why are they doing it? Inquiring minds want to know....

[@johnemden7682]

You have explained yourself well. I am a risk-taker and entrepreneur. I took the chance and bought one. I am so happy I did. I expected that it would be risky to go with a new car company. But took the chance because the car is made by experts who make cars for other well-known European brands, They are experienced and have made a quality built automobile. Fisker, the brand, is going through the expected growing pains. But they are rapidly handling the bumps in the road. I love my Fisker more and more as time passes. If you are not adventuresome and are a nitpicker, or have little patience, buy an established ICE brand. If you are a bit of a risktaker, like cutting-edge technology, and are patient, then route for the underdog, and buy a Fisker!

[@apb1236]

Lots of folks out there with way more money than brains. Also, there are plenty that will spend whatever to be first and “different”.

[@CyrusTheGreat-b3k]

Your concerns are now etched in stone

[@JeffTarr-ey7sc]

I took delivery of the ULTRA model earlier today. Been driving it around all day, absolutely amazing.

[@CarShopping101]

Fisker will be bankrupt within 18 months max. Good luck with that.

[@tribalypredisposed]

​@@CarShopping101I don't see how Fisker lasts more than six months, personally. You are an optimist.

[@nickanselmo8619]

@@tribalypredisposed troll

[@tribalypredisposed]

@@nickanselmo8619 idiot.

[@johnd3557]

@@tribalypredisposed they will for sure last 10x longer than lucid or rivian who built their own factories and have tremendous mountains of debt and selling 100k vehicles no one can afford.

[@sal1nger]

TomTom is still a thing? Hopefully Fisker gets their tech game in order, as their designs are very nice.

[@tribalypredisposed]

Fisker will never get their tech in order. I told people this would happen consistently for two years before Fisker started production, for another seven months while Fisker pretended to be in production before starting to deliver the car, and here we are. When Fisker got a billion dollars from the SPAC "merger" the company was Henrik Fisker, his wife, and seven employees. The software engineers available for Fisker to hire were the ones who could not find or keep jobs in a world of automakers desperately hiring good software engineers by the tens of thousands. Volkswagen hired 5,000 just to try to make their EV UI, and fail pretty badly. GM's latest EV also having some serious UI problems. Fisker got the guys and gals Volkswagen and GM turned away. EV startups manage to make good UIs, Lucid and Rivian and of course Tesla have done it well, but they are led by tech people, and Henrik Fisker is legacy automaker to his core. The UI lags? Well, it is better than the UI for his first startup, where owners were breaking the screen trying to get it to respond. The company that bought Fisker Automotive out of bankruptcy spent two years re-writing the UI software. Fisker shipped these cars before the UI was complete because it will never be complete.

[@Bucketroo]

One of the few EVs I really like, especially for that California Mode. I used to drive like that with my dad's old Jeep Grand Wagoneer: all windows down plus tailgate window down. (We used to call it the Grand Wag'O'Fear because it tried to kill us several times after my dad died.)

[@jessesea77]

So excited to see the Fisker! I feel like most people ignore it so excited to see it long term!

[@chucklee9291]

I made a Nonrefundable $250 reservation, but unlikely will order after drastic price reduction by Tesla model Y. It is simply not $22k better than model Y after considering additional federal and local tax credit living in Colorado. My model y cost me 40K after all these. A comparably equipped Ocean will be around 62k. This will not sell, and Fisker will likely go bankrupt if nothing drastic happens

[@CFG39]

Yall might as well have thrown $70K in the garbage.

[@chrisburgess6964]

A lot of warnings out on Fisker going bankrupt and not to buy the car. This is where Edmunds can wiegh in a bit for warrantee etc. Parts and the other things. Down to 25k this could be a real bargain. However in saying that car companies are refusing to take them in on trade ins.

[@DuarteMolha]

70K!!!! NO ACC, no voice control. No auto hill hold. If this was a tesla Edmunds would be tearing tesla apart!

[@KrustyKlown]

NOW $36K .. NO ACC, no voice control. No auto hill hold. If this was a tesla Edmunds would be tearing tesla apart!

[@mymountrushmore6235]

I own the Ocean one and it’s awesome. Def has some quirks but the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. The best looking as well.

[@sohailakmal3384]

Ditto

[@CarShopping101]

Just wait until the company goes bankrupt. Then let us know how great it is.

[@sohailakmal3384]

@@CarShopping101 I'm actually not worried about the stock price hysteria. You a Tesla simp?

[@Afuche]

Agreed. My FOO has been awesome and really fun to drive.

[@markplott4820]

FISKER is Fraudulent.

[@DonnieNeedsCoffee]

4 days into driving my Ultra. Loving it so far! Was terrified about the hill rollback situation (flashbacks to driving standards) as I live in a hilly city. Went to test it late at night and had 0 rollback. Maybe there has been an update as the braking is also not having the issues described. Did have issues with the lane assist and emergency braking out errors when driving the in rain, back to no errors now that it’s dry.

[@johngarnergarner6724]

I had the opportunity to test drive the Fisker yesterday. I was surprised to see Fisker at a meetup at the Smithfield outlet mall in NC. The model I drove had a sticker price of about 73K. I really enjoyed the car although I wasn't blown away. I don't think I'm going to buy one yet as I have some concerns. First of all, it's way overpriced. I could go out tomorrow and buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited for less than 50K and it's a nicer car. The electric cars in general are way out of line in their cost structure, Secondly---and this is the primary reason I'm waiting---I have concerns that Fisker will even survive. They're not selling or producing a lot of cars at this point. Their stock is down to about .75 cents a share. They have very little cash and without an infusion they won't survive. So, if I go out and buy a Fisker it's highly likely that they won't exist in two or three years. So, where would I get parts or service if needed? I'm certainly interested but I'm waiting for a while.

[@billbixler8534]

I ordered one, but I didn't order things like the solar roof which is expensive and has very low output. It came in about 63K. That is less than an Audi, BMW or Mercedes. It is a beautifully built and designed SUV. Who puts a little dog nose window in their car! Fisker does. The design inside and out is clean and uncluttered. My test drive went great. This car is fast!

[@johngarnergarner6724]

@@billbixler8534 Bill, please don't misinterpret my comments. I also liked the car very much. It's beautifully designed, I just felt it was overpriced----although I'll concede that other cars in it's space are equally as pricey if not more so. But my greatest concern about Fisker is it's ability to survive. It's stock is just about worthless, trading this morning at a little over 12 Cents per share. They have halted production because they are sitting on about 4,500 units that they haven't been able to sell. And the reality for Fisker is that unless they get a big cash infusion or some sort of lifeline, they will not survive. So, it's quite likely that you have bought a car from a company that will not exist six months from now.

[@badgerdad777]

I love the look, build quality, tuned suspension and towing capacity.

[@TailsWithNicole]

I have one! Absolutely love it!!!

[@noneya3222]

Beautiful looking SUV

[@markplott4820]

but Drives like CRAPPY.

[@godofdun]

Good example of why generally it's not the best idea to buy the first year of any car, at the very least until it's had a volley of software updates

[@sohailakmal3384]

I totally agree. I impulsively bought it in 2020 and committed in 2022 knowing that any car would be a step up to my 2011 Ford taurus limited. The early adopter penalty is definitely felt, but I must admit that I love driving the fisker ocean one. I feel it to be a very comfortable ride and really fun given how nimble it is for its size and weight. I'm rooting for fisker. Hope I can keep enjoying their vision

[@tribalypredisposed]

But in this case it is just an example of why not to buy a Fisker. His last company had an awful UI too. He is a legacy automaker and his companies are as adept with software as Volkswagen is, but with a lot less time and money and employees, and using software engineers who could not get hired for the flailing EV UI projects at Volkswagen or GM or other companies. If Fisker was to survive five years, the ADAS system still would not be functioning.

[@nickanselmo8619]

I bought a 2024 impreza six months ago and have already had a recall and my screen went blank because of a loose connection. You are correct on the fact of not being the first to buy a vehicle if not willing to deal with some kinks. It's not just a fisker problem.

[@BartSantello]

Software improvement updates have been coming fast.

[@sohailakmal3384]

@@BartSantello agreed. Delivery of updates, I desire more, but Fisker has done wonderful providing support and addressing opportunities quickly. If only they had a centralized system that didn't hand calls off to different individuals asking for the same info over and over. Sweet ride tho. Love this car

[@K9Trixx]

This vehicle was top of my list for buying an electric vehicle...so thank you guys for pointing out the downsides as well.

[@ashirchaudhary8038]

We test drove Ocean last week and immediately loved the built quality more then our model Y

[@davidsepulveda3004]

How many more thousand did you pay for yours? Recently got y as well

[@minnguyen4872]

UI LAG ...build quality can fix but UI lag ..good luck to you

[@adziuba12]

Software updates can fix @@minnguyen4872

[@jghall00]

The limited boost thing is stupid. They'll get rid of it when the vehicles sales fall below expectations. My wife's I-Pace is built by Magna as well. Build quality is great. Hopefully they won't replicate the mechanical, electronic, and software faults present in the I-Pace.

[@edornelas8275]

As far as I have read or seen on videos, all you stated is present. Fisker head is a designer not an engineer or businessman & his legacy of failures follow him.

[@bzdtemp]

@@edornelas8275 Only because badly informed people like to pretend being smart and make posts like yours. What happened to the hybrid Fisker Karma was bad luck ie. a hurricane and a battery supplier going under combined with GOP politicians targeting the company unfairly. And as for other failures I do wonder what those are - maybe you can enlighten us.

[@marzgtp]

I like that fisker! I’m thinking of buying one.

[@BobbyNewsome]

How will those panels hold up against hail?

[@bartoszjankowiak3157]

Wow! Really useful information you provided. This kind that I'm really interested in and others most often miss. 👍

[@SeerArt]

This Fisker is so freaking gorgeous 😊

[@markplott4820]

too bad the car itself is VERY CRAPPY.

[@thomaskroyer3468]

Why? @@markplott4820

[@edwardbrooks3803]

Based on what?@@markplott4820

[@martinmcnulty8155]

Agreed stunning and 90% of Fisker owners recommend the car.

[@thomaskroyer3468]

Based on what?, built quality is the high end, higher than a Tesla, just like all other cars manufactured by Styer in Austria. Opion not based on data, -but false date from people who never owned one? -and everyone knows Henrik Fisker went bankrupt with Fisker automotive?, so why should the Fisker Inc. be better?, -well the fact is Henrik never owned Fisker automotive, he was only a partner, Bernhard Koehler was on of the partners, why is no one blaming him?, Henrik did not want to seek bankruptcy so he resigned from the board and left, a week later the 3 others partners filed bankruptcy. The Fisker automotive problems have nothing to do with Henrik Fisker, but fact the legend manufacture like Ford, GM and Toyota controls the supply chain and have first right to sub-supplier production, that's why so few Karmas were produced and bad luck like hurricane Sandy flooded the hole production from Finland and later the former factory they bought from GM was in worse state than Fisker Automotve knew and needed more loans, just bad karma. But don't say the Ocean is crapy, yes software is not perfect, but that is a window into the past, lasted software have solved the first reported issues, and Fisker Inc. is that car manufacture right now is fastest to release updates, and is doing to their unique business platform since they have all software in-house and do the manufacturing is out sourced. If the Ocean is crapy share the data that supports the opinion, a few negative comments from a few owners is false date and taken out contest!, and so fare the few complaints are only from the USA, and likely more related to costumers living in States that does not allowed direct sale over the internet, 90% of owners are very happy with the Car, little higher in Europe!@@markplott4820

[@monsterpatbro1041]

I own an Ocean One. The best car I've ever had and a thrill to drive. It tops my Model 3.

[@BBingo-v5i]

Because Teslas are even worse? Everybody knows that. Teslas are economy cars. Doesn't make the Fisker Ocean a good car. Get yourself a KIA EV9 or the upcoming Hyundai Ioniq 7 if you look for a large SUV with real quality. More general: any premium brand from Europe, especially Germany, or Korea.

[@grahamsiebring5227]

@@BBingo-v5i it all depends on what the buyer thinks a “good car”. For me it is simplicity, efficiency, almost no upkeep, great software, and speed. Tesla checks all those boxes for me. For others, they may want a quality interior like a BMW or Mercedes, which are better in that regard.

[@FSGallipoli]

@@BBingo-v5i sorry bud I drove both Kia and Hyundai, not even close to Fisker. I dont know what you are talking about or how did you come to this conclusion....

[@memyselfundeye]

⁠@@BBingo-v5iplease, i’ve had the (mis)pleasure of driving those Kia’s and Hyundais (Ioniq 6) and all i can say is what they lack in class and subtlety, they make it up with cheesy flair and design elements that seldom blend aesthetically from front to side to rear. Hard pass..

[@stefanwalser2824]

comparing a fisker with hyundai or kia.......🤣🤣you made my day..........start at least with mercedes,but their middle range@@BBingo-v5i

[@kesando84]

I can see the number of remaining “Boost Launches” being scrutinized on the used market similar to mileage

[@sohailakmal3384]

Great thought. Never looked at it like that but you're dead on. I wonder if One owners will get it as a permanent unlock. That would be a great perk.

[@peterkasala2088]

Apparently it's only counting during the warranty period but it still operates past the warranty expiration.

[@shawcobra]

You want to know how to get a permanent unlock? buy another car with out this stupid hyper boost counter...@@sohailakmal3384

[@wlifting]

sure hope your purchased of the Fisker will lift the stock prices.

[@johnemden7682]

My opinion is that the short-sellers have been successful in driving down the price. I am an owner and a long-term stock holder.

[@Zorakron]

​@@johnemden7682This.

[@cbotten106]

The short sellers also appear to have a very aggressive group of KZbin commenters too. @@johnemden7682

[@EugeneDaniels-u4m]

My 2023 Porsche Macan S which I’ve owed for a year still has software issues. That’s the new normal, from phones to washing machines. I’ve driven the Ocean and Kia EV6, Ocean wins hands down. Expect the software and features to improve, lets give them a little run time

[@blinddog4288]

I told my friend all this a year ago and he lost almost all his investment in Fisker, Rivian, Nio, chargepoint, and lucid.

[@okieg8960]

I’m pretty sure my homie invested in RadioShack probably had better odds 😊

[@SupportAI309]

Indeed, if someone had told you to put money in Nvidia in 2010 or in Tesla in 2016, you'd have called them stupid.

[@kfliegner]

I’ve owned my Ocean One for 2 months. First, people place way too much emphasis on the limited “boosts”. I have yet to use a single one; place the car in hyper mode, and it’s a rocket. The boost is utterly unnecessary. Second, the solar roof is not yet functional; will require a software upgrade.

[@Wargasm54]

That’s pathetic. You paid 70k for a vehicle with a solar panel that is non-operable and you’re ok with that? Must be a California democrat. 😂

[@yoursilly2106]

How do you feel about losing 30-40k?

[@BeautyOnEarth]

I am confused, how is this better than the Lucid Gravity?

[@markoramovic1093]

this SUV looks luxurious

[@aussie2uGA]

Why wouldn't you say that Magna builds the Fisker Ocean?

[@steverichard2786]

Sorry for your loss 😢

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

4 miles per day of solar is actually a really big deal...positive trickle charge is a million times better than trickle losses when parked. Park it nearly dead in the long term airport parking and come back 2 weeks later and it's got 56 miles. The ones that sit on dealer lots might never need to be charged during the month or two that they sit there, recouping the miles from a test drive here and there.

[@chriskl2361]

Agreed if they fix their issues that's probably what will sell it for me. Because hey even if the world ends you'll have a car that can do a hours worth of walking/carrying stuff a day :D

[@cbotten106]

You can't fool me, you are definitely a "glass half full" type of person. Love the comment, btw.@@chriskl2361

[@JasonB72481]

So, if you can't stop buying them, how about giving some away after testing? I would love a lightly used EV.

[@DaytonaRoadster]

imagine buying a car from a company months from going out of business

[@krafter324]

Love the Ocean so far. Software is the weak spot, but thinking that will be a different story in 6-8 months.

[@victorrobert4600]

Thank you for the review ! Just took delivery of my Fisker Ocean in blue Best car I have ever owned ! The build quality is way better than my previous Porsche, Mercedes, BMW and Lexus It’s way cheaper to drive than my previous Toyota Prius So much fun to drive and I get looks and questions every where I go! Thank you Fisker !

[@Getusom]

Cheaper to drive than a Prius. Cmon man that’s a little ridiculous..

[@AstonVantage8]

@@Getusom probably true if only considering fuel cost and not price and deprecation of the car

[@cbotten106]

Fiskers winning over the Porsche drivers now. Nice!

[@garypick]

This morning, I learned about the bankruptcy but after some research I'm even more confused about what will happen. I did read that the Ocean will likely be sold for $14K but will have limited features and no future updates. I suppose if Fisker owners are on some kind of subscription plan, whatever company that emerges will still provide some support and services.

[@JerryNordstrom]

I knew I recognized some of the footage... BMW dealership on the 78 in Vista, CA.. which closed down... and is now a Fisker center?

[@RetroTechno]

Confirmed correct!

[@pauljamieson803]

The S/W update fixes a lot .. pls do an update and let us know what you think .. thx

[@Visualhead_Spacer]

here's an anecdote.. I was at LAX parking garage, first time seeing a Fisker Ocean. It was sounding the alarm non-stop... not sure what was triggering it as the owner wasn't there and it was at the charging spot of the parking lot.

[@thebagnechannel3183]

I like the car but that boost mode button with a 500 use limitation is a terrible idea. Each time you press it, the vehicle depreciates a bit more.

[@artboymoy]

Nice looking car. Will you guys be getting an Aptera when it comes out?

[@FORD_4.6]

We want to test drive Ford Crown Victoria LX Sport 2004 and Mercury Marauder 2004 Super Charge and normal version

[@TJDST4]

No, we don't.

[@Jnater2572]

what no one makes clear is that boosts can be reset back to 500 if you take it in and ask for it

[@DuulHomes]

Can you please share your impressions of the sound system? In car Audi deserves more screen time!!

[@platnumphantasy]

I have one and the audio is very sharp and clean. However, it does appear as though the audio system is not fully activated yet like many parts of the car. The rear speakers never seem to fill the cabin as well as I had hoped, even with the balance and fade at 0 offset. Hope this is addressed with a software update because it sounds like the system has more to deliver.

[@fjkbravoyt]

@@platnumphantasyhow often have you had updates since you’ve had the car?

[@platnumphantasy]

@@fjkbravoyt I got it in October and have had two updates. A third is available and was supposed to be pushed to my car already, but perhaps it’s not getting to my car in the garage. Mine doesn’t have wi-fi OTA updates yet.

[@JoywritingCars]

Just test drove a ONE. Sound system is excellent! Much better than Tesla Model Y lLong Range. Sounds like a concert hall. Spatial 3D audio is amazing.

[@martinaltmann1658]

I think Brian made a Wong choice here 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@cbotten106]

Mighty white of you to make a pun like that. Or not.

[@271830066]

After owning my Fisker Ocean Ultra six months I noticed that when every I get in my Fisker in the morning in side my garage the temperature inside my car is very warm. Is this normal with all electric cars? - is the heat coming from the battery pack while sitting in my garage over night?

[@EfrainQuezada]

I'm watching every review i can find because price for models in my area are dropping like a stone with a rocket pointed downwards and im feeling tempted to jump into something stupid. Can i use it as a grocery getter? They're about to hit sub 25k

[@babakb.3063]

This is better looking than a Tesla Y or ioniq. Seems to fit the two things I care most about. Range and looks. Think a test drive is in order thx

[@cbotten106]

Looks are subjective! But I share your opinion.

[@zimecka72]

Now that is Fiskar has filed for Chapter 11 what happens to the upgrades that were promised?

[@AquaGutterCleaning]

I had to go look up what a Fisker was!!!❤

[@TheBestDealsIl]

I see potential for this company

[@GoldenLegionHoney]

did you get updated to the newest software yet?

[@saurabhsen_nj]

Curious to know owner's thoughts now that same cars are 40% cheaper in only few months later and maybe no repair service support in future.

[@joetacchino4470]

Imagine paying for a feature on a new car and not getting it right away, or knowing when it will arrive. Oh wait, Fisker learned that from Tesla didn't they? How is this remotely acceptable? Why are we giving these startup companies a free pass? Can you imagine the roasting that Cadillac would get if you paid for Super Cruise but didn't get it, and they didn't say when you would? People would be driving them through the front window of dealerships. This garbage needs to stop.

[@BBingo-v5i]

Agreed. Paying for subpar quality and promises needs to stop. Tesla is a prime example besides Fisker.

[@Wasabi9111]

Actually Lyriq didn’t have super cruiser ready when they were just released. I don’t mind buying a car and waiting for updates if I had confidence that these updates will come. I got my rivian pretty early and it was nice getting frequent updates over time. But this ocean seems to be less prime time and missing a lot more features than the rivian at launch. I recently saw one and it didn’t seem to be worth $70k.

[@grahamsiebring5227]

How did tesla do this? If you are referring to the Full Self Driving package, it has always been called the FSB BETA, which literally means it isn’t finished…anyone buying it expecting a complete product wasn’t paying attention.

[@PhilC225]

These are options. If you don't want them don't pay for them. Appears that plenty of people will pay for stuff now with hopes of actually getting them in the future.

[@joetacchino4470]

@@grahamsiebring5227 Come now, really? How long have you been in the Tesla world? When they first launched FSD you got......NOTHING. Not even Beta. Oh, and don't get me started on full price "pre-orders" for the mythical roadster. Not $100 deposits. Full payment.

[@MrDtoU1]

Very educative review.

[@ahmetguzel538]

looks better than vehicles produced by many famous companies😮😮😮

[@lordeben3452]

Let s go fiskerrrrr❤❤❤❤we believe in you❤❤❤❤❤

[@mikebroom1866]

No android auto is a hard pass. Always.

[@sripavanv]

Brian, did your car have 1.11 update? I noticed a post in Edmunds that a lot of software bugs are present. I am wondering what version of software is currently installed. thanks

[@paulkitchen5802]

LOL I have KIA EV6GT and I did 500 launches with 576 HP in 2 days and I can still keep going. Also, it has full power pretty much ALL percentages and temperatures and charges from 10 to 80 percent in 18 minutes and costs $60k. Oh well. Good luck Fisker hope you get enough suckers to keep my GT rare unlike a Tesla which are everywhere!!

[@wertup123]

That kia is an ugly car. And it's a Kia, never forget

[@tacosr]

I really like the direstion of Fisker, almost a more ubran/suburban mini Rivian (and more affordable). I am excited for the Alaska.

[@wisetiger2548]

It's priced at 29k usd at some dealers, for a 350miles range car I think its a good deal even if they have declared bankruptcy

[@ericfan1223]

Same

[@matthewmartin5509]

Did you eventually get all the promised features?

[@WSOJ3]

No idea why they designed the side windows to be so small, but it’s absolutely cluster phobic inside. It almost made escape by windows impossible for many.

[@user-zx8de8op9l]

I remember seeing a Karma back in 2015

[@cbotten106]

I saw one at the auto show once. Never "in the wild". Kind of like a zoo sighting.

[@ImpalamansGarage]

Good work Brian. Thanks!

[@tdrgaming8795]

I love the fact that this car has 2500 miles of free solar charge per year! If they can increase that to 5,000 miles!! THEN BOOM I WOULD NEVER HAVE TO CHARGE THE CAR! there are tons of people that only do 5k or less! This car solves a huge issue!

[@PeterPyo]

honest question, are you going to leave it outside exposed to the elements just to gain 3 miles of charge a day!?

[@Reginald_Harrison]

⁠@@PeterPyoYeah, buying a brand new $65k+ car and intentionally parking it outside in direct sunlight 365 days a year is ridiculous 😂

[@androiduberalles]

How on earth did that ship without acc when 20k sedans have it?

[@CarShopping101]

B/c the company is already on the verge of bankruptcy. That's how.

[@tribalypredisposed]

Because Fisker will never achieve acc. The Fisker software engineers are the people who Volkswagen and GM rejected for their bloated failing UI teams. In a world where good software engineers get job offers daily, Fisker hired the people sitting at home wishing they could find a job.

[@cbotten106]

Automatic Climate Control is more an HVAC issue than a software one. If the hardware works and has the capacity to cool the vehicle then getting software sufficient to make it work seems an unlikely cause for not having it. @@tribalypredisposed

[@claudiuberta5688]

3 months later and now this costs 30k😑

[@mjerome1457]

Nope 25k NEW and 5k USED

[@ItsAlive111]

I can’t believe this Edmunds guy put startups like Fisker in the same startup category as Tesla

[@martinmcnulty8155]

Exactly. Everyone's got a Tesla. With a Fisker you are guaranteed exclusivity. Also the Fisker build quality is a lot better (no panel gaps).

[@dcmcghee]

For once I'd like to see a new EV start-up come out saying that they allow Android Auto or Apple whatever-it -is to be used on its vehicles. You'd think that this would free them up to work on more important software issues instead of giving you some half-assed proprietary map and music functionality.

[@drunkenwhiskeyeu]

Probably, the upfront fees are huge. So will be monthly fees per vehicle

[@cbotten106]

Exactly, Fisker cannot pay the man (Apple/Google) their fee. Let alone the massive integration of those systems into a vehicle. Some major manufacturers don't even try to integrate both straight out the gate. Some never do. @@drunkenwhiskeyeu

[@googleads1060]

looks very cool

[@philsalley3278]

The basic question here is why anybody would actually buy this work in progress? It sort of the reverse of buy now, pay latter.

[@coolpix222]

There is no Fisker under $40k yet. Hope they actually make it.

[@markplott4820]

FISKER motto - fake it , till you make it.

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

Their lower priced model, the "Pear" will be under 40k

[@coolpix222]

@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 The Ocean Sport model is also under $40k. They haven't delivered any. Don't know if they made any. Production was halted and we haven't heard when they will start again. Fisker needs to sell a few thousand cars first. That is the impression that the sales guys indicated to me, asking me to upgrade to Ultra. But for my kids, I'm only willing to buy the Sport. I wouldn't count on the Pear. We haven't heard any signed deals with Foxconn like they were suggesting a while back. Fisker should focus on the Ocean to make it successful first.

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

@@coolpix222 Gotcha, yeah lower trims coming out dead last has been a thing recently with new EVs/companies.

[@coolpix222]

@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 Agreed. They need to do really high volume to generate profits on the lower end cars. I think their Sport trim will sell well if the can resolve the software bugs.

[@StickyPirate]

"I don't want to be negative, but here are some more negatively scoped views of things I am trying to compliment" Whack. Edmunds is College Brian.

[@jeffreywong6842]

I was so excited for this when it was announced, sad to see that it's stil half baked and you are paying that much money to beta test... where did we see this before? hehe.

[@MossMini]

I believe everything Henri Fisker say. Question: Will Henri Fisker start a 3rd car company?

[@CoxJul]

I test drove one last Saturday in the UK. I was told, and have read elsewhere, that Android Auto and Apple Carplay are due to be OTA updates in 2024.

[@martinmcnulty8155]

Software version 2.0 is coming. That is going to send the stock soaring.

[@SinSGone]

I am tired of paying to be a beta tester. I would never pay 70k to be one. Companies need to test their product before releasing.

[@CMCNestT]

LOL at "real Alcantara." Alcantara is branded synthetic suede.

[@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444]

The term is accurate if it's real suede from synthetic cows.

[@cbotten106]

And if the material is claimed as "real Alcantara" it should be. There a lot of cheap synthetic suedes out there that don't meet that quality standards of Alcantara.

[@martinmcnulty8155]

Love the Fisker Ocean IMO the best EV in the world.

[@WRXMAN-ms2mm]

Limited to only 500 hard launches! Why the limit? I haven’t seen any other manufacturer do this. Does this mean the battery or the motors or both are inferior to other manufacturers? Are other manufacturers hiding something as well? Whatever the answer is yet another reason to not buy an EV. Especially this $70,000 example.

[@eganeles]

Fisker claims they will reset it, after vehicle inspection. I own Fisker for 4 months, and tried Hyper only few times, more than enough, trust me. Boost mode is overkill. Very solid EV, built by Magna Steyer. Magna also builds G-Wagons for MB, Z4 and X5. Build quality is there. The real issue is software, definitely needs a lot of work. But with upcoming updates they should fix it.

[@harriettanthony7352]

OP, your last statement is a personal one, and your welcome to it-BUT-its flawed. You are of the passive anti-EV crowd, and do not seek to know more, says this EV owner

[@WRXMAN-ms2mm]

@@harriettanthony7352 I think EVs have a definite place in the transportation network. This is a rapidly evolving automotive platform. It has its pros and cons. It is not friendly to DIY repair like ICE technology is. The owner is at the total mercy of the manufacturer which is never a good thing. It also all but kills off small independent garages. Last but not least is the issue of main battery recycling. Which an internet search reveals is far from straight forward and very toxic to the environment and people if not done correctly. And when in history have companies run afoul of safety regulations for both workers and the environment? Having said this I respect your right to own an EV but don't presume no know my overall assessment of a technology and its practical application. Also there is nothing wrong with asking thought provoking questions even if they are pointed and make one uncomfortable.

[@socaliguy81]

Great time to invest in this company! Sub $1 shares before they start to hit the ground running with their new delivery model.

[@gregnelson7915]

nice looking SUV

[@johnemden7682]

I love my Fisker Ocean. I have had it for four months. I have driven it 3,000 miles, including a long-distance trip. As I learn how to use it, I love it more and more! It is a great car. Fisker Owner #1298.

[@chillmeister]

Also, can you get a petite person to test the vehicle? Someone 5’ tall?

[@Outsider.Reviews]

It's a bit disappointing to hear all the things this vehicle is missing but it's a great looking vehicle and this is agreat review

[@FSGallipoli]

it is still better car than Model Y. I own both and Fisker is my go to car right now

[@Outsider.Reviews]

@@FSGallipoli that's really good to hear

[@FSGallipoli]

@@Outsider.Reviews I found this review very one sided and overly skeptical. he didnt even mention about Magna the factory builds fisker cars which builds Mercedes G-wagon and BMW 7 series with attention to quality and higher standards. He concentrated on or fixated himself to criticize something just to criticize. I did not find his review fair...

[@Outsider.Reviews]

@@FSGallipoli I do recall Magna is who makes these and they make really good EV drivetrains.

[@nickanselmo8619]

​@FSGallipoli and he said the incorrect price, the extreme is 62k. He mentions that it didn't come with all features but this isn't a fisker problem. This has been the case for a majority of ev manufacturers. I mean people paid for self driving and still don't have that. Some paid over 10k

[@chardelraconner7324]

kudo's

[@jasoningram9928]

I wonder if you'll get your missing options after they go out of business.

[@justindearduff4816]

I would like to see range test in the Midwest winter like now???? The whole EV thing is suspect with batteries having significantly less performance in the fridged temps we experience out here in fly-over country.

[@bsbllclown]

To everyone worried about cold weather and ev batteries...but yeah I've seen a dip (in Colorado) mostly keeping the car and battery warm takes a few % off . But I don't drive 250+ a day so it's not an issue. Everyone will have a diff use case. Norway celebrates another record year for electric vehicle sales with an 82.4 percent market share in 2023