18,000 Miles in the Ford Mustang Mach-E | What It’s Like to Live With | Long-Term Test Wrap-Up

[@edmundscars]

We’ve had a solid 18,000-plus miles in the Mach-E, but it’s time to see it off. What should we buy next? Let us know in the comments.

[@markplott4820]

New TESLA model 3 Dual Motor 2024.

[@dr.erichblochinger4743]

A reality beautiful car, i have the second, I think he is amazing 😊

[@shaunmckenna1923]

I would be waiting to see if the new Xiaomi are coming to North America they are a great looking car and so far the reviews are very good , always nice to have something a little different here every other car is a Tesla 3 . I am more than happy with my Genesis GV60 .

[@markplott4820]

@@shaunmckenna1923 - UNLIKELY , as BAIC has no cars, that meet FMVSS regulations. and would need Changes to get Recommendation from IIHS or NHTSA.

[@jroche799]

DODGE HORNET

[@radicallefty4659]

33k miles and I have never taken my 2023 Mach e to the dealership

[@Ghost-jy9hk]

That must be nice. Trips to the service department are always a nightmare and i would like to avoid them

[@leok7193]

@@Ghost-jy9hk maybe with Ford? 90% of the time taking my BMW in is pleasant. never had to schedule an appointment more than 2 days out. when I get there, my car is received and condition is recorded, service advisor goes over any issues to be fixed and gives a quote that they've never gone over. I get a free loaner that's usually the base engine, but new cars (I've had 330i convertible, X2, X3, X5). Then I just get a call to pick it up. It's more expensive than non-premium brands, but never a "nightmare" and the one unpleasant time was when they scuffed the wrap on my car, but they did mail me a check to re-wrap without even getting an estimate to reimburse. That said, I did have a Chrysler car for work and that was unpleasant 100% of the time and about 50% nightmare (as in paying for a new transmission up front, that wasn't ready to install after 1, then 2, then 3 months, at which point I took my money back and exchanged for a different car at work).

[@jghall00]

I put 55k on my Focus Electric. Only trip to the dealer was a modem upgrade for 4G. Just sold it, but it was an awesome car for the three years that I drove it.

[@joetz1]

I was good in my Mach-e until 43,000 miles. Then it was an endless shit show back and forth to a service department that had no idea how to fix it. I wound up cutting a deal to trade it in because I had no other options left

[@TAD6198]

​@@joetz1 hello. How long did you have it?

[@kingcrimson234]

I bought the 2023 GT last week. I couldn't pass up the deals they have right now. So far, I'm in love with this car! I test drove a few different models, but ended up with this one. Yes, the range on the GT is only mediocre, but the performance is great, I don't take road trips, can level 2 charge at home, and my typical daily routine consists of less than 40 miles of driving. Still have a gas car anyway if needed. It seemed like the perfect fit for me as a daily driver. What I really liked about the Mach-E vs say, the Kia EV6, is that I really like the tech that Ford put in it. I also like that massive center screen like a Tesla has... awesome for GPS, etc. BUT it also has a screen right in front of the driver, which the Tesla does NOT have! It also feels very spacious inside, they did a great job of using the space where the usually a transmission tunnel for useful storage. Seats are pretty comfy too. The car looks better than the competition too IMO. Just a really solid, well thought out crossover. It's not a Mustang, but it's a good EV.

[@user-wm5ix5de5j]

You made the right choice for personal driving habits. I think a lot people get anal about range without really understanding how it may or may not fit their personal needs. 👍

[@dangunsuh5594]

Reads like a champion. Best.

[@bonitabromeliads]

what deal did you get? I'm looking at them.

[@MLHunt]

We have two of them, my wife's 2021 Premium 4x with 38k miles and my 2021 base GT with 48k miles. A few minor model year 1 issues but we both still really love the cars. Still enjoy driving mine, and regularly make excuses to do so. In fact the cars have gotten a little better over time with software OTAs.

[@djcali001]

Traded in a 2022 Kia Ev 6 for a 2023 Mach E California Route 1 and it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The technology in the Mach E is light years ahead of what’s in the EV 6 and I won’t end up paying $30 a month for basic connected functions like phone as a key, remote starting, navigation, plug and charge, etc. a year from now as Ford seems genuinely committed to keeping those features free unlike Kia. The one thing I thought I’d miss was the insane charge curve of the EV 6 but in all the road trips I’ve done since trading it for the Mach E it just hasn’t been an issue and plug and charge has been an absolute god send versus dealing with either the EA or Tesla app.

[@kennethtarlow]

I don't understand my ioniq 6 has no charge for the native navigation or phone systems. is Kia different than Hyundai? I has an excellent rout planner. I liked the Mach E for everything but the comfort. The ioniq 6 has a better ride less stiff, better seats.

[@vincenty747]

I have a 2021 Mach E and it's a fantastic car. I have the CA Route 1 trim and I was surprised how efficient the car was. In 50/50 driving I routinely got 330-340 miles on a full charge. Interior is top notch and high quality. The infotainment was initially slow but after several updates it's faster. There's still some lag, but now reduced. Agreed with the suspension: you'll either love it or hate it. It is stiff and sporty.

[@jaq432]

Just to add my own experience: I have a 2022 Mach-E GT and I put around 15k miles on it in a year (currently at 18k). It is the only car that my wife and I own/drive. I live in the suburbs of Seattle and commute downtown a few times a week for work (~10 miles each way). My family lives down near Portland so we do trips down there around 10 times a year. I've done some other trips around Washington state which gets us up to that 15k in a year mark. I love the car but I have some complaints about it: the battery contacts' design limits the charging speeds to about half of that of other similar cars (EV6 GT or Model-Y) where we get around 95kw peak where they're getting 175kw+. I also hate the suspension: it's too stiff when going over bumps, leaving rear seat passengers in the air over speed bumps. My last complaint about it is the heater. Similarly to the charging performance, other vehicles in this category have heat pumps where the Mach-E has a resistive heater, causing us to lose around 35% of our range in the winter. For example, at ~70mph on the freeway in the summer, I'll go ~250 miles where in the winter, we can be down around 180.

[@rp9674]

I think there's a trend of softer suspensions for eevee's, I believe new model 3 and late model bolts. Heated back seats would be nice if you use them a lot. My 23 Bolt EV has a softer ride, but cornering suffers a little. I don't use heat much, Southern California. Mostly use seat & steering wheel heat, glad I opted for it.

[@WinstonMakesMore]

Curious if you've kept an eye on tire wear. I always thought the tires were a bit skinny, and concentrating the weight on those might cause accelerated wear.

[@rp9674]

​@@WinstonMakesMorestill lo miles - my BMW i3 has super skinny tires - wear is not bad

[@jaq432]

@@WinstonMakesMore I haven't kept close attention to the tire wear but I don't notice it wearing abnormally fast. The stock tires are high quality so I'd guess they should last around 35-40k. With the GT, my tires are a little bit wider than the other trims so I'm interested to know if the other models go through tires quicker or not.

[@jledge4797]

@@WinstonMakesMore33k on my 2021 Mach-e Premium RWD standard range, still on the original tires. Part of how long the tires will last is how you drive the car. Looking to get to 40k before replacing.

[@CaptDnaDonut]

I've had mine (premium, standard range & rear wheel drive) for almost 2 years and have driven over 40,000 miles. I love it so much. I agree that its good in most areas but I think there are few some small things that are a huge plus for it (and other Ford vehicles) mainly plug and charge and its route planner. Once I get that Tesla adapter I'll finally be able to charge at full speeds in my town and where I work. And Plug & Charge works at Tesla Superchargers so I won't have to download another app. I've had to take mine to the dealership to get two front parking senors replaced and 3 out of 4 door motors that open the doors replaced. Other than that, I haven't had any issues. The seats are holding up okay, the frunk is still nice to use, the OEM tires have lastest a long time, and it is fun to drive. You can throw the rear end around which puts a smile on my face everytime. I personally love the lack of a door handle and think Ford did a great job designing them. The Lyric was clearly inspired by the Mustang Mach-E's doors but it wasn't as fluid a motion on the front doors. Later this year I will be getting the Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Edition's rims/wheels and some Hankook tires to put on mine. I don't feel limited with the 225 width tires but the extra grip will be nice and I think it'll look better with some wider tires.

[@erikdale9145]

Hey, thanks for your time and thoughtful write up

[@kingcrimson234]

Careful with that full-speed charging. Don't use it unless you need to. If you use it a lot, it's not good for the battery's long-term health. Try to keep it at 50 kW or less.

[@CaptDnaDonut]

@kingcrimson234 not a concern for me. I already don't fast charge a lot. Plus it doesn't seem it's as hard on a battery as initially thought. Not great for the battery but not battery killing, so I'm not worried about it.

[@dangunsuh5594]

Plug and charge does not support membership. so if you do it on a Tesla...

[@CaptDnaDonut]

@@dangunsuh5594 🤷 Soooo??? I can disable it, download the Tesla app, and sign up for the membership. Don't get me wrong, I hope Ford can sort that out at some point, but it hasn't happened with EA so I doubt it. But not super important for me since I prefer EVgo.

[@MendicantBias1]

Looks even better in person

[@josephpanozzo4815]

It’s sad to pay an 8K dealer markup and only getting 28K as the trade in value for a 61K car.’

[@G029er]

Buying an EV is still a terrible financial decision. Lease. Lease. Lease. No one wants to buy a used EV so the depreciation is ridiculous.

[@chada472]

Never pay MSRP or over always walk away!

[@dmegahan]

I think this is one of the easiest cars to go from a regular ice to an EV. They don’t try to reinvent as much as say Tesla. It still has traditional buttons to do things like change the speed on your windshield wipers or moving your vents etc.

[@samuelgoldstein6055]

Drove my dads around for a week and I completely agree - perfect blend of EV futurism with the familiarity of a modern ICE Ford. Went from San Diego to Ojai w/ a stop in Burbank and Thousand Oaks, ~225 miles 75MPH most of the way and reached Ojai with 55 miles remaining. I’ve also done a week in a ‘23 Model S and as nice as it is, I still think I’d rather have the Mach E. Call me old fashioned but I want turn signal stalks 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@rp9674]

I think you tend to get buttons from legacy, which I like.

[@rp9674]

​@@samuelgoldstein6055 Lots of level two in burbank, Electrify America in Ojai

[@williamstachour4019]

I have a ‘23 Lightning and love it. There’s plenty of room for improvements, but as an early effort it’s impressive IMO. There’s such a dedicated group of haters, but the tech is coming like it or not. Personally, I wouldn’t go back to ICE unless I had to.

[@michaelgonda962]

Same here... we LOVE our EV and would never go back to a ICE car. The EV is just so damn convenient to own and use.... no going to the gas station, no oil changes, no tune-ups, just get in and drive.

[@RadDadisRad]

I own a 2023 Mach E. I refuse to call it a mustang. It’s a fantastic daily. Unplug it, drive to work, drive home and plug it in. Anytime i talk about it everyone points out everything I don’t use it for. I don’t travel in it. I do dislike the interior door handles inside the hand grip cups.

[@myaccount__7269]

I have a few EVs but it is always funny to me people are worried about range but when you ask them the last time they drove more than 200 miles in a day they can’t even remember it lol. Also they see people charging at the mall and they think we all do that lol. I tell them I never use public chargers unless I road trip and they don’t believe me lol.

[@RadDadisRad]

@@myaccount__7269 exactly, my charging costs me $25/mo along with the annual road tax deficit of $500. That’s implausible to assume that amount of money would cover just 1 month for gas in an equivalency in performance with an ICE vehicle.

[@mcgreedy01]

I own a 2023 Mustang Mach-E and I call it Mustang every chance I get.

[@RadDadisRad]

@@mcgreedy01 because you’re 🌈

[@mcgreedy01]

@@RadDadisRad I guess so is Ford because they named it. But ironically you still bought it and that makes you…….ding ding ding!!!! 🏳️‍🌈

[@irfanhusein1445]

Just crossed 66,000 miles on mine. Great car and loads of fun to drive. I’ve had one recurring issue with it. Front camera faults out every so often, although it does reset after a few minutes.

[@MLHunt]

There's actually a known issue with the cable going to the front camera, there was a TSB for it. My wife's had the exact issue but they replaced the cable and it's been good since.

[@mowcowbell]

I might have considered a Mach-e, but ended up buying a Model Y. $41.5K for Model Y Long Range, stealth gray white interior. I loved the 'no dealership' delivery experience. I was in and out of the Tesla store in 20 mins when I arrived to pick up my vehicle. I have never picked up a car at a traditional dealership without spending hours on listening to sales pitches and why I need an extended warranty.

[@dangunsuh5594]

That is good price for MY LR. Great for you.

[@jillteach3086]

Love my 2023 select basic model. Only complaint is the trunk space. My Prius was bigger. I can’t get my beach wagon set up into it. Getting into the frunk is awkward.l too. Wish they could have just added more trunk discs. But it’s very comfortable inside, powerful, rockin!!! Sorry I like the interior door handles - they’re fun.

[@Silverback_GMT410]

The issue with the pricing is that Ford updated the MSRPs to drop but $8K in some cases.

[@ericsmalling]

Coming up on 3 years and about 34k miles on mine (AWD, Extended Range) and love it. Still get about the same range as the day I got it and the few service visits I've had have been fine. (I've had one negative experience but it was just a delay due to a paperwork mix-up on a parts order for a recall fix. Is was a clerical error at the dealer, not Ford's fault, and the dealer gave me a free loaner while they resolved it)

[@victoriapawlicki3341]

Gay

[@ericsmalling]

@@victoriapawlicki3341 Assuming you are referring to the classic sense of that word, then, yes, I'm very happy with my Mach-E and how reliable it has been, thank you.

[@Derpy1969]

I’d love to see the long term testing video of that Fisker in 18-24 months thanks to their bankruptcy.

[@mckaigg]

regarding the super charger network. More and more of them are opening up. Also, I see plenty of Teslas with a bunch of superchargers open using the ONE ChargePoint that takes away from everyone else.

[@ohger1]

Shame about Fisker. I don't know what went wrong but the Ocean could have been a great EV.

[@jeflui]

I leased a ‘23 premium awd in space white, and honestly it was an impulse decision. It is very sad to see the depreciation on the E’s, but I love the car overall. The door handles or lack of is great, it’s something I expected an EV to have. The range drop in cold weather really sucks. But normal warmer temp range is still about the same as I get in my other car but cost half the amount to charge vs gas still.

[@alexandracummings2105]

Excellent video, very informative 👍

[@1964mcqueen]

At 2:50 he talks about taking the E on a road trip, and stopping 15 and 20 minutes. This is important for people to know. People always ask how long it takes to charge, but this is really not important information - you will rarely, if ever charge from 0-100%. The vast majority of charging is at home while you sleep. When on the road in town, you might charge at a Level 2 charger while you shop, work or have dinner. On road trips, your charging will be like this guy, stopping for 15-20 minutes while you pee and buy a coffee.

[@gaurangpote8111]

The video came out at the right time when Tesla opened all superchargers for Ford today. So the question is Mach-e a better option to buy than Model Y?

[@martalli]

Not really. This is still a first generation product. You would still be better off with a Model Y in most circumstances.

[@cgamiga]

Both the ModelY and MachE have coming refresh models in the next year... that will be a much better competition, but the Tesla should still be better option, depending on price/what you value, mostly for... software and tech. If you like bit more buttons/controls? Ford... But overall, ModelY should have better range, notably cheaper, faster charging, better software&other tech, etc... The MachE is solid, but... as for most everything vs Tesla, it's the software, software,software... the Ford infotainment UI and especially app usability is,... somewhat painful. Tesla is just super-slick and frictionless for nearly everything, intuitive, fast, glitch-free, lots of features, frequent updates (every 21days typically, major features added few times a year.) MachE UI... not as much. Lots of submenus, wordy option screens, many steps/hidden ways to get to simple things (charge limits/power when you plug in??), sometimes glitchy android auto etc, map buried under other screens,... vs Tesla, just pops things up right where&when you need it. Mapping/routing also... tesla app also much better. I could never tell when/if the MachE was actually locked in the app... Tesla app icon IS the status display (shows locked or unlocked). Lots of things were just frustrating/confusing for me in Ford UI, even as an experienced EV / tech owner... given EVs are often computers on wheels, you REALLY want that software and usability to be the best you can get.

[@RadDadisRad]

The long range model allows for higher charging rates over the standard range model.

[@markplott4820]

Muck-e does NOT Supercharge @ 250 kw , like TESLA does.

[@RadDadisRad]

@@markplott4820 the Mach E long range charges at 150kW 🤷🏻‍♂️ standard range only charges at 110kW

[@markplott4820]

@@RadDadisRad - FUD motors can only very SLOWLY DC fast charge.......lol. FUD has no path to 250kw or even 400 kw.

[@RadDadisRad]

@@markplott4820 🤷🏻‍♂️ I don’t care, for how long it gets driven vs not driven it is charged when I need it.

[@markplott4820]

@@RadDadisRad - most EV owners , will charge OVERNIGHT , leave morning w/ Full Tank.

[@andyt1573]

70000 km changed rear motor at 54000 changed rear caliper s ran out of break 2 times at 70000 changing front motor and 6 towing.. still

[@bonitabromeliads]

6:38 "I think the Hyundai that costs twice is much is nicer" Wow brilliant take lad....

[@Silverback_GMT410]

The thing I don’t get about people who buy EVs and depend on public charging is why buy a vehicle you can’t charge at home or at work??

[@amani576]

The thing I don't get about people who ICE vehicles and depend on public gas stations is why buy a vehicle you can't fill up at home or at work?? Because they want them. That's why.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Tesla chargers stations are quite large

[@ellisrochlin2267]

Here in uk the auto trader advertising all the 70kw version with a 273 range OOOPPPSS 😢 MISTAKE MISPRINT ,its actually 237. on 100 % charge . Have emailed autotrader about there error on the range as its virtually 10% less than they state , which could leave a new buyer of a used 70 kw Mach e model quite irritated and mugged over . Here in uk we are winter/autumn conditions 8 months a year and 10 if you live up north so the outcome of the range will probably drop to minus 200 miles overall in those months . Just sayin . Ps so glad i looked diligently into the range b4 buying in .ps only with the mid horse power 91 kw is it a viable proposition

[@user-by9qd4wv7o]

I always look for these when I'm driving. But they're hard to spot when they blend in with everything else on the road.

[@andyreid6869]

That the car I need for doctors' appointments

[@leecooper6292]

8,000 markup is lunacy

[@mnhsty]

Still a lot of unsold 2023's. I think in late May, these will be priced irresistibly.

[@KaiPonte]

Cool video. I have 27,000 miles in my '22 California Route One. Great car. I routinely get 300+ miles on a full charge, even though I Only have L1 at home. I choose it over my 1999 Lexus more often than I like. Just an all-around comfortable car. Can't wait until Septober 32nd. when I get my free ford NACS adapter. Haven't used a public charger in four months, but will be interesting. I can't imagine anyone buying a Kia/Hyundai - those things fall apart fast, in my experience.

[@davewilson8308]

He didn’t trust the blue cruise so he drove it himself. I use blue cruise all the time and it’s flawless. I hear from other channels it’s the best self driving system in the world!

[@HiHoSilvey]

I need really good lane centering. Someone mentioned that it didn't work that well. What do you think?

[@garyclark6747]

Buy an inexpensive used EV from a dealership may be earn you tax credits at the right price so this could be a good day for many of those who have been waiting. 7:21

[@thegrifman]

Edmunds endorsing dealer markups. Wow.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Cheers guys

[@benfaubion]

I feel like the price kind of defeats that gain of electric. I'm not willing to pony up more cash just to feel like I'm somehow doing the environment a favor. For those of you who did, are you serious? I can't believe the depreciation on this vehicle, WOW. On another note, they seem like a decent buy used. Seeing prices between 25K - 30K with low miles. The main advantage at least in my case over the Model Y, is the insurance is about on par with other standard SUVs.. the insurance for a Model was ridiculously high. Overall, I love the idea of charging at home, I'm just not willing to pay a premium on a new one.

[@dennisclouser3458]

If they're so great, why are they piled up on dealers' lots around the country??

[@ericsmalling]

Because Ford didn't match the massive price slashing Tesla did. Now that they are doing so, sales are up a lot.

[@benhaze1010]

A good example that a one off (no issues) does not make it statistically valuable.

[@RadDadisRad]

As a 6 foot driver i don’t like the dash placement.

[@kevinw7319]

I am contemplating buying a 2021 Mach E Premium .. any thoughts or things I should look for?

[@TKevinBlanc]

No idea what this is going to look like at the SC. Almost every non-Tesla is going to take up two spots because of their charge port location. Hopefully, they limit non-Teslas to SC locations that aren't crazy busy.

[@Calibr21]

if the non-teslas park next to each other there are no spots lost. It’s only a loss of spots if you park Tesla non Teslas.

[@TKevinBlanc]

@Calibr21 I'll just take my gas car on long trips. It sucks. I won't be recommending Tesla to anyone anymore as much as I like mine.

[@Sugah_J]

I just bought a ‘23 with 7700 miles. Original MSRP was $55,000, I spent 34,000. That depreciation is cazy.

[@kentatm2663]

Yeah seems like right now you should only be leasing for a few years or buying used and planning to use it it for at least 10 years. Buying and selling an EV after a few years will crush you right now.

[@Sugah_J]

Yeah, they tried to sell me a new one and I was like nah bro. I slapped a 12 year bumper to bumper for an extra $2k on that baby and plan to drive it until the wheels fall off!

[@vikramkhalsa]

What trim? Regular or long range? And where at?

[@DaneMorgan-ol3zc]

$1.83 per mile depreciation…but you save 6 cents per mile on gas!😂😂😂

[@snowglyphs8767]

*$2-3

[@K03sport]

but you only covered 9k/yr of "ownership". that's below the average annual milage according to other other outlets; so why was the Mach-E only used 9k miles/yr or 750 mi/mo? was use mostly in the city or did ppl make 300 mile jaunts to the mountains or up the coast?

[@davekozlowski1266]

I have to agree with you. My car bought on 6-16-2022 just turned 36,000 miles. 18k in 2 years makes me think they didn't want to go on a road trip in it!

[@joshualewis393]

The genius marketing that Ford should have went with was instead of calling it the Mustang Mach E is to call it the Ford Galaxie....you know, the car they make in from 1959-1974? That way Mustang would be associated to 2 totally different vehicles and they could have brought the Galaxie name back. Yes it was a muscle car but the name would have worked well with an EV. Oh well.

[@moreybrown870]

Great vehicle. Loved my test drive. Didn't love dealing with my ford dealership. Ultimately haven't bought one because it doesn't have the ability to put on a tow hitch. Don't understand why not. Plenty of power and weight? why can't it tow?

[@richardlane3333]

How can you purchase this car?

[@aussie2uGA]

The MachE has had some big issues according to many reports. Overheated batteries caused a Stop Sale at Ford. Then the main contactors that allow battery current to flow to the car and motors couldn't handle the current! They started failing open (car suddenly stops) or failing closed (safety issue). Consumer Reports also dropped it from their list of reliable models.

[@chadpurser]

Isn't that just the GT models?

[@ryancheek6928]

It's CR recommended

[@aussie2uGA]

No it's not. Google doesn't allow links here but search: "Following a recent reliability survey, Ford's EV lost its "recommended" rating from Consumer Reports"@@ryancheek6928

[@markplott4820]

@@ryancheek6928 - Consumer Fraud is fraudulent.

[@ericsmalling]

FYI, The contactors issue (only on extended range and GT models) is resolved and those impacted got free recall repairs.

[@shaunmckenna1923]

I looked at them 2 yrs ago , so glad I didn't buy one too many problems , I bought the Genesis GV GV60 amazing car 36K kl in 18 months without a hitch .

[@ericsmalling]

3 years in mine, completely happy and what few problems they had were quickly resolved for me.

[@scottlevesque6998]

I'd like to see this with the new 2024 model

[@bubbalo3388]

It's expensive and now it doesn't qualify for the tax incentive either making it even less desirable. Most EV's cost way more than a petrol vehicle. Anf if your main purpose is to get a vehicle to save money. Then you would get the cheapest one out there and keep it for a long time. Anything way north of 40k you would do better with a hybrid with a 45+ mpg. Even a cheap petrol vehicle would make more sense because it would be way cheaper than most hybrids and especially EV's. More money left in your bank account.

[@qwertshadow]

It should have been taken to a dealer just for scheduled updates.

[@ganthc]

Updates happen OTA, but I’m surprised they didn’t go for 10K service checkup and tire rotation.

[@mehmetyetis3425]

looks cool

[@marryellen7713]

Just over a month ago I drove my 2023 Mustang mach-E home. I received my new insurance premium $250. a month. Very clean record for 60 years.

[@ohger1]

I can't believe Ford didn't integrate the Kindle instead of gluing to the dash. The Mach and Teslas look like preproduction prototypes.

[@easternpa2]

The offerings from Hyundai/Kia/Genesis are terrible alternatives right now due to the route they chose to go with DC fast charging. The plug is "in the wrong place" like most non-Tesla EVs, but more importantly the method they're using to charge their 800-volt battery packs limit their charging speed at Tesla Superchargers to just 50 kW. GM has figured out how to split their 800-volt packs in two for optimizing 400-volt fast chargers (but have not completed their on boarding to Tesla yet). HKG is stuck with a terrible fast charging experience until they completely redo their charging system. It's a non-starter.

[@Perfect_Dark_77]

A Korean friend I went to university told me to never buy anything Korean.

[@zoner__]

GV70

[@spiceyfrenchtoast9421]

We need EVs with BUTTONS!!!!!

[@ossme]

i thought this is a long-term mustang test?

[@martalli]

No kidding. Two years is less than a lease agreement.

[@sstream17]

$8k markup is never appropriate

[@jskaggs8188]

That Hugh screen is hideous.

[@charleyzacharia9878]

First of all it’s Ford , it’s not known as a good brand , and it’s not cheap either, that’s the reason why the sales are dropping 53 percent, that is not good . On the other hand, Tesla is the gold standard of EV cars , that’s what they’re all about, they don’t build anything but EV unlike the other companies starting converting their vehicles from ICE to EV

[@chriszaiser]

9k a year isn't going to cut it. Long term, my ass.

[@tyjohnsrud]

Is there refresh on the way after production was halted?

[@MrProy33]

People constantly getting down on you must be disconcerting over time. It's not a Mustang. Period. And it's the firat thing you mentioned. Lol

[@GeeDeeBird]

The outage was ironic since the original Mustang was a gutless 6 cylinder pony car that handled like a milk truck and was marketed toward young women. And the Mach E is much more true to its heritage than the ponderous gunboats that wore the badge from 1970 to 1976 or the ridiculous little Mustang II. Cars change but the names live on. Get over it.

[@adamashlock1787]

$40k bloodbath #nothanks

[@martalli]

An car is not an appreciating asset. It's something you buy and use for years. My partner at work as a 2014 Model S still going strong. If you only want it for a few years, lease it.

[@petegeoffrey4939]

so no comments about its battery degradation.

[@michaelriecher5632]

Probably because there was very little degradation

[@rewind1960]

18,000 miles after two years? That is not a long term test. You expect us to believe what you said about range and charging? This doesn’t match what people say about EV’s in the cold, or if you use the AC or heat, or charging stations that don’t work. Mustang Mach-E are available everywhere because nobody wants them.😊

[@ericsmalling]

Their findings pretty much matches my experience with ~34k over 3 years in mine.

[@FuslieNTR]

To bad it was discontinued

[@EveronesInvited]

An 8k markup is never appropriate

[@axelengelmann9044]

Edmunds received something from ford and not from Tesla... that is very noticeable

[@ericsmalling]

So did all of the pro-Mach-E commenters here also "get something from Ford" too?

[@lplt]

It already drifted into irrelevance, can’t believe people paid over sticker 💀

[@rp9674]

Find a site for people who do Long Haul Trucking in a Mustang Machi

[@dougpeaslee6928]

I would never own a ford EV. Recently rented a Mach-E, after charging it, I when out to move it and the 12v battery died. The car had less than 10K miles on it. Had to have it towed. Whoever designed the power system should be fired - it lived up to the moniker - Found On Road Dead.

[@voldar70]

Mach-e is not first Ford EV. They had the Ford Focus EV who was a flop.

[@ericsmalling]

First purpose built EV. Focus EV was an ICE retro-fitted to BEV.

[@huss1205]

You guys still reviewing EVs?

[@DJL78]

You still driving that 2011 Hyundai diesel? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@huss1205]

@@DJL78 LoL, yes, and I will continue to do that for a long time...

[@johnn17golf]

This is not a classic car show, of course they are reviewing EVs. ICE is the domain of weekend car meets in the church parking lot. If you want to have fun driving and get to places reliably, buy an EV.

[@huss1205]

@@johnn17golf oh, you are one of those Woke/LGBTQ/environmentalists who want to even kill cows and and other BS like that? you people are evil, intollerant and selfish. Also, nothing is more reliable than an ICE car. In this cold Sweden, a diesel car works perfect, warm and no chargihg BS issues or false information about range...

[@guykite8110]

I thought removing hands was not allowed

[@paulybthealfaguy]

Fisker ocean?????....u didn't hear??

[@kylebusch97]

I completely rebuilt a 1966 mustang, and in the process got to know the core of what really makes a mustang a mustang, and things like 'spacious cabin room' and 'nice and quiet' weren't on that list. I just really wish that ford had stuck to a beautiful affordable horsepower machine, instead of an ugly quiet electric SUV. There is a reason this is the worst selling mustang of all time. Heartbroken.

[@martalli]

The reason it is selling poorly is that it directly competes with the Model Y, which is just simply a better EV at a lower price.

[@ericsmalling]

@@martalli "simply better" is subjective. Tesla slashed prices on Model 3 and Y so that they went from a similar price to the Mach-E (in 2021) to $10k cheaper for similar specs.

[@pauld6967]

First off, it doesn't deserve to have the Mustang label. Second, I was at my local Ford dealership yesterday and the sticker price on the Mach Es is $60,000 and despite what you said in this video, NO markup is justified. Next to the Mach Es, the real Mustangs had a sticker price of $57,000. So, Ford is being stupid with having prices be that high for both models. If Ford gets back to being sensible and brings back the full-size Taurus sedan as a PHEV or BEV, then they will have a winner on their hands. Unlike this monstrosity.

[@blakerh]

Ford should drop the Mustang name. I dont think it helps them sell any. Most people just call it a Mach-E.

[@mikethebeginner]

I just wish it wasn't called "Mustang." Ford Mach E is a perfectly good name all by itself.

[@constantinedimopoulos1110]

In the dead of winter it loses hall its range due to battery issues. Why not mention that. Plus 68 thousand dollars for an electric toy being off loaded for 28 thousand after 2 years is nuts.

[@martalli]

I don't know about the Mach E but my Model Y does great in the winter. Even in -5F weather was was doing a 400 mile round trip without any problems this winter. There was a little (maybe 20%) decrease in range but it did not really affect my travel time and my expenses were still much lower than with gas.

[@johnn17golf]

Who tells you this nonsense, bro? No EV loses 50% of range even at -40, not remotely close. When you have to grossly exaggerate your claim, you know you're gone from arguments using data to using your scared emotions. I know facts hurt your feelings, connie, but get real

[@pahanin2480]

Edmunds lost all credibility with that trade in

[@joetz1]

How do you figure?

[@kkchristy]

My comment is: this comment section is lame.

[@daviddumars3728]

markup are NEVER appropriate.

[@vollyentertainmentinc.djvo8265]

what the hell happened to cars...

[@MrProy33]

Breaks my heart to see a battery powered suv with a pony badge. It's like Star Wars. Instead of creating something new, they gotta take a fan favorite and change it for no good reason. I'm gonna have to find an old one and fix it up for my kid, teach her how to work on an engine so she understands the feeling of really driving a car, and so she doesn't grow up into a fool who can't change a tire, change the oil, or park in the garage without using a computer to assist.

[@RJExpediting-rk7lr]

Anyone that would pay a 8,000 dollar mark up on any automobile is an idiot. 18,000 miles and lost 32,000 dollars!! Someone needs to take a personal finance class.

[@michaelhorn8962]

The tablet hanging off the dash is HORRIBLE. Is there an option package without that grotesque monstrosity?

[@teacake6941]

Real people in the real world don't have a real mortgage. Something a Mach E requires because fast chargers will degrade the battery too fast for the vehicle to retain good value.

[@ericsmalling]

Huh. Funny that my 3 year old one still has the same range as when it was new.

[@lenm2857]

There was a study on fast charging and it didn't seem to do much damage (maybe on the older type batteries from 10 years ago).

[@aaronbanks7555]

funny, another car editorial team talking about how great EVs are and how they’re selling so well. I wish they’ll talk about the real Mustang like this, the one with the V-8!!!!

[@ELWIN225]

The cheese humor only made me 🤢 Eww, brother eww, what’s thaaaat brother

[@LJLion]

That drop in value after just 18k miles is sickening. Glad y'all can write it off as a business Loss. Although not for common folks. Hopefully the hype cycle with Evs is over.

[@nosoupforyou425]

Internet was right after all.....