I'm 99.99% sure the dragon communion crest depicts an anatomically correct heart, with the blood vessels being the branches (the aorta looking branch really popped to me), as you correctly showed in the numbered figure. It represents the communion of dragon hearts required to attain their powers. Awesome video, really good material for discussion!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad you liked the video. That’s a great observation about dragon hearts! I hadn’t even thought of that.
@rogirek33622 жыл бұрын
Can it be both? When we find Placidusax, he's just floating motionless in the center of the storm, his wings furled around making him into the shape of a heart. I always kind of interpreted crumbling Farum Azula as a refuge for the stone dragons, hidden outside of time, and Placidusax at the center of the storm being the force that maintains it; but Placidusax, the heart of Farum Azula itself is ruined, and so it crumbles.
@sanginho19982 жыл бұрын
@@rogirek3362 good point, there can also be a connection with Placidusax's pose inside the arena.
@Xandros9992 жыл бұрын
Placidusax had five heads once, but now seems to have been reduced to a primordial form of the Two Fingers, communing with the Greater Will.
@R3m1ly2 жыл бұрын
This makes much more sense than the connection to Placidusax. The purpose of dragon communion is more about worshipping the power that the dragons can offer you, not necessarily the dragons themselves, hence the killing and tearing out their hearts. To this end I don't understand what sort of reverence partakers of dragon communion might have for Placidusax, or why he would be their crest. It would make much more sense to have the crest be a dragon heart, which is essentially their object of worship.
@Yal_Rathol2 жыл бұрын
the eight-pointed star probably represents the influence of the outer gods, since ranni and the nox serve the moon, the golden order serves the greater will, mohg serves the formless mother, etc. which makes the crest of miquella and malenia and the haligtree unique, because they show a broken star, and miquella's goal is to rid the world of the outer gods' influence through his unalloyed gold.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting take, I’m gonna look into this! Thanks!
@zatoby67052 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the taint of chaos to me.
@Ozone9462 жыл бұрын
dont forget the Scarlet Rot, thats another outer god
@Yal_Rathol2 жыл бұрын
@@Ozone946 yeah, which is where my interpretation comes from. if the star represents the outer gods, and miquella is specifically working to break their hold on the lands between through unalloyed gold as a response to the outer gods cursing him and malenia, then showing a broken star on his emblem makes sense. it all comes back to the rot, who "blessed" malenia and how miquella wants to break that god's hold over his sister.
@RockyRockthrow2 жыл бұрын
You can actually see Malenia's Crest on Finlay when she performs Golden Vow on you
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've gotta check that out! After I made the video, I noticed that some Cleanrot Knights use a buff that makes Malenia's Crest appear too.
@brokenlord32182 жыл бұрын
If I remember right all scythe type cleanrot Knights can use it if they have an ally they can buff
@Suntoria23610 ай бұрын
@@SinisterStromboliThat Crest is imo easiest to see at the 2 Cleanrot Knights duo boss cave in Caelid, also I think the wiki has a name for the buff they cast with that crest but it’s not Golden Vow, even though they’re pretty similar in effect iirc
2 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I've been searching for this one too and Malenia's crest appeared in one of the trailers in a spell casted by one of the demihuman queen's, hence why some people call it the demihuman crest, but that doesn't happen in the actual released game. I can't see how those two could be related in Lore now, but apparently they once had a relation while the game was in development.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! That's been bothering me for a while, so its nice to finally have an answer.
@tinnasell41612 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, it has something to do with the fact that demihumans use needles a lot. But it's just a guess)
@Ezekiel_Allium2 жыл бұрын
It would make sense, a lot of miquella's whole deal is taking in opressed and despised peoples, it's kinda weird a connection between him and the demi humans didn't survive to the final product
@sirrealism73002 жыл бұрын
I saw something interesting... Ok so, you know how miquellas all about controlling people, and you can use miquellas needle to make enemies your ally? Well, one of the demihuman queens has glowing purple eyes, the same purple eyes that the ants being controlled by the nox swordstresses in nokron have. This gives me the idea that they're being controlled by miquella, or some other entity out there... since they're half beast, the controlling seems more than possible.
@wanidouse2 жыл бұрын
The crest looks very similar to depictions of Helfen's Great Tree-- that is, the place referenced by Helfen's Steeple that exists in the afterlife and is parallel to the Erdtree in the living world. Helfen itself is very nordic-- like valhalla it is where heroes who die in battle go in the afterlife and it is full of other elders and heroes. Mind you, I don't remember how much of that is explicitly stated, how much of that is extrapolated from its depictions, or how much of it is just drawing from nordic myth. Also it should be noted that the Japanese translation does not distinguish between a Great Tree and an Erdtree. In general the translation for this game is fucked (Ranni is literally supposed to say the opposite of what she does in English). The theory that holds more weight is that the Erdtree grew out of the crucible. I'm not sure how the greater will factors into that.
@lichofthewilds43842 жыл бұрын
While the connection between the force behind the three fingers and the formless mother feels super weak to me the thoughts about the erdtree and how maybe the great tree was grafted together are super intriguing. Recently I’d been convinced that those two trees had no distinction between them besides age, they were just the same tree at different times. But now, the repeated symbolism of twisting lines on erdtree associated objects, the weird bits of language around the “two” trees, and the mural above the entrance to the erdtree proper cement this idea. It would even feed back into the origin of the grafting Godrick preforms.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
It would be kinda wild for them to rename a tree and act like it’s different for no reason. When it comes to the Formless Mother, it really boils down to the fact that it seems like she’s connected to the Crucible of Life, and the 3 Fingers is definitely connected to the Crucible somehow. Also their goals and abilities aren’t as different as you may think.
@lichofthewilds43842 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli See I don’t think the crucible of life/primordial crucible and “the one great” are the same thing. From what I’ve gathered “The One Great” seems to have existed before even the beginning of all things. Then it broke apart and spilt forming everything in the lands between and not. The Crucible seems to be something that existed far afterwards and represents a chaotic and vibrant form life. The force behind the 3 Fingers is just that, a force that exists and drives all back to that original state at the beginning of existence, while Mohg and by extension the Mother is actually seen guarding the space where the 3 fingers are held, to me this points a want to keep anyone away from them.
@humorlessink26582 жыл бұрын
@@lichofthewilds4384 yeah and I further your point by pointing out that the term “crucible” is a common element in alchemy which has various other parallels, like Marika and Raddagon becoming a representation of the rhebis a perfect being that is both male and female. But that aside the crucible is meant to be a force of change, like evolution and mutation like what we see with the Omen and the Crucible Knights. The crucible is therefore not the progenitor or originator of all life but rather the frenzied flame and all existence was broken down by the greater will and then grew with the help of the crucible. Since we see influence of both forces that are completely separate such as misbegotten and the afore mentioned omen.
@samfish25502 жыл бұрын
Also it was in the Church where you fight the projection of mohg is the same place where mohg I believe had his epiphany about the formless mother, right above the subterranean shunting grounds and the 3 fingers buried in their depths.
@zusty95892 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli The name doesn't exist as a proper name in the Japanese texts. Rather, what's generally referred too are what can be translated as 'great roots'. There isn't a reason to suggest that they belonged to some separate tree of power which existed beyond the Erdtee, much less beyond the Greater Will. And the One Great is not the Crucible. Rather, Hyetta, teaching what was given to her by the Frenzied Flame, claims that the One Great preceded even the Greater Will, being then one and all. And there is no real relation between the Frenzied Flame and the Formless Mother, nor between the Formless Mother and a 'Greattree', since there is no Greattree originally mentioned.
@fishyfriend7102 жыл бұрын
I like to think the group password crest is the Tarnished warriors own unique way of communicating to each other, since they were all most likely warriors under Godfrey at some point
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I like that!
@gorge30302 жыл бұрын
You and other smaller creators are what's developing our understanding further every day. Smough is obviously doing a lot of heavy lifting but it's also fairly surface level(if that can even exist in ER lore 😅), this is truly the deepest lore!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, that means a lot! I've spent a lot of time staring at walls and floors for some of these videos lol.
@handtomouth46902 жыл бұрын
Damn, calling smough surface level...never thought I'd see that.
@georgewalker75732 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Just wanted to point out that the gravity seal is actually the shape of a magnetic field like that of the earth, a gravitational field is just straight lines pointing towards the object with great mass
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you're right, but it is called gravity magic, and it affects non-metal targets. Unless we find something that suggests magnetism is involved somehow, they may have taken some artistic liberties to create an image that would be easily recognized as a "field".
@lacrima55712 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli My guess is that the gravitational magic in the ER is related to both gravity and magnetism. Probably people are trying to find some meaning because they think the two can't be together but ER is a fantasy game so it's very possible for them to combine different things. Radahn can fly and lighten himself with his gravitational magic, while at the same time he can charge his weapon and create magnetic fields/attacks with purple lightning effect.
@Diamon_Boots2 жыл бұрын
While I do feel like it probably comes down to "they are both associated with planets and space and other physics stuff" and the look of a magnetic field being much more interesting and distinct than a gravity one, I think there is also a fun conection of a planet's magnetic field being responsible for blocking solar and other types of space radiation, with gravity magic also being a sort of deterrent against things that come from space. The flaw this might have is I can't remember if the enemies that use gravity magic also make the crest appear (I think they don't, but I can't say for sure). Either way, I love the gravity aspect of the game, and wish it got developed more, both in magic/weapon arts and in enemy variety.
@lollicupkate2 жыл бұрын
The eight-pointed star is probably the polar star. Check out the "Black Leather Shield" description, "From the north, this shield depicts the polar star in rivets of gold." It has eight points.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Good eye, I agree!
@SubmachineExplorer2 жыл бұрын
The malenia crest also appears when cleanrot knights with scythes are buffing themselfs
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I saw a cleanrot knight do that like two days after I published this video, I was pissed lol.
@purplehaze23582 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure whether this video makes my brain feel bigger or smaller, but it’s definitely one of the two.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
lol im glad it had an effect on your brain
@Tulip_bip2 жыл бұрын
elden ring made me realise i have a huge thing for fancy magic symbols lmao. idk why, but when i saw them appear in the trailer when people casted spells, it made me really happy. i love how mystical the magic in elden ring is
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend a game called Enchanted Arms then. I played it when I was a kid and recently discovered IT WAS ALSO MADE BY FROMSOFTWARE Theres really cool magic symbols in that game tho
@ooccttoo2 жыл бұрын
16:22 Something I haven't seen anyone else notice about the Stormveil crest is that the bird's head and wings resemble the grip and guard of a sword - and there's a blade coming directly down underneath the feathers in the middle. Makes very literal the idea of their weapons being empowered by the storm itself.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard other people say that the shape beneath the bird looks like a silhouette. Either way, I definitely missed a lot of details in that Crest
@McGeeMcGeeMcGee-g7w2 жыл бұрын
Wow! the godskin/Mt Gelmir connections are so cool!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I actually remember kinda freaking out when I figured that out lol. It felt like a crazy idea at first, but then I started finding more and more that supported the idea, and everything kinda clicked into place.
@lovesiriusblack2 жыл бұрын
This was well worth the wait! Wow, so many interesting things I've already noticed but have never given much though/had much thoughts to give to! 😅So thank you for the eye-opener and different perspectives, so much detail! Watched the whole thing now and I can't wait for the Indiana Jones vibe for the next video! Keep up the good work 🥳
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! The next video will have a lot of those little details too, so I'm glad you liked it.
@darlingxluxii79772 жыл бұрын
Agreeed!! Keep up 😻🥰
@bludgeon10812 жыл бұрын
I really liked how these symbols appeared when casting. Felt that that was one of things missing from Dark Souls. Always felt great casting something like blackflame blade and seeing the glyph appear. Anyways, love that someone made a video of this!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I agree! They give magic a really cool mystery and atmosphere imo.
@bludgeon10812 жыл бұрын
@@colorpg152 Interesting, never thought of it that way. Personally, I always like to roleplay that I'm affiliated to something though so it's kinda the opposite for me.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more like a "logo" from the people that made it you can think of it like an image built into the spell kinda like a signature
@noahg-f45582 жыл бұрын
This is really, really awesome. I have been thinking a lot about my own impressions from the imagery of this game and have been so blown away from the care put into every thought, every allusion and every principle from this game. I would love to see a video taking a look at the various talismans (especially the weird two fingers talisman, where it looks like an X since it has feet), but thanks for stirring my imagination with this video.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
A video about the talismans is a good idea! Also I'm glad you liked the video.
@HealthyMaxwellRoth2 жыл бұрын
How on earth don't you have a wider audience? So much interesting details and research in this video. Very glad I got to have it recommanded by youtube. Thank you for your work!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Lol this is the second video I’ve ever made in my life, and my first was about 3 weeks ago, so I’m still growing. I’m kinda shocked by the response this video has been getting. I expected it to be less popular than my first video, and I was very wrong lol. Thanks so much for your kind words, btw!
@danielbarnett36722 жыл бұрын
The swirl in the Godskin crest could reference the Gloam-eyed queen's twisting iris, as seen on Melina
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Ooh I hadn't thought of that before, good observation!
@Espressodepressoh2 жыл бұрын
I also see a fingerprint in the centre. It looks like the Gloam-eyed Queen has some history with the Three fingers.
@Last4TheWin2 жыл бұрын
one thing i noticed about the fire monks/giants seal, aren’t those four “suns” around the centre circle the eye of the fell god? also, when the fell god awakens in the fire giant and its eye opens, it has the same pattern of a central dot surrounded by eight symmetrical dots as well, what do you think? great video btw
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Good observation with the Fell God's eye. I think it has something to do with the 8-Pointed Star, but I'm still doing some research about it for my next video. As for the Fire Monk Crest, I'm not sure if those suns are the eye of the Fell God, but its 9 "pupils" do swirl in a similar way.
@lithrawri2 жыл бұрын
it also kinda looks like the top view of the Forge
@linkdude642 жыл бұрын
It looks like the storm at Saturn's north pole, which is the same Saturn who devoured his kid, which is the same Cannanite cult that put the moloch statue outside of the Roman coliseum. The same cult that was present in the Kubrick movie eyes wide shut...
@sirrealism73002 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli im pretty sure the 8 pointed star is possibly the "blood star", the thing that the thorn magic wielders use.
@kommentier98842 жыл бұрын
I was actually wondering about all the crests and symbols that appear when casting spells, so this was super interesting to watch.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
@lephonometrographe2 жыл бұрын
Wow, great video ! The crests are finally getting the attention they deserve ! And If I may add a personal theory about the intertwined kind of helix symbolism : if we think of the Erdtree as two forming a greater one, I cannot help but think about Marika/Radagon as being really similar. Though if they actually represent the Erdtree or not is up to debate, but I think this detail might be relevant ^^
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’m glad you liked the video! Good observation, I’ve wondered about whether the intertwining trees have some connection to Radagon and Marika becoming one as well. I’m just not sure what it could mean lol.
@lephonometrographe2 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli well apart from the rebis theory/inspiration, I think everyone is still very much confused about this haha
@sanityplusmilkshakes2 жыл бұрын
Your analysis of symbology is fascinating. I'm looking forward to future uploads!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@DeathScorpi02 жыл бұрын
Aside from what looks like an eye in the center of the Frenzied Flame crest, if you look closer the whole pattern inside the "flame" is a fingerprint.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Nice eye! That crest is amazing, wow.
@notazazel2 жыл бұрын
Ok so seems to me like Ranni didn’t need the rune of death at all. All she needed to do was create a primal glintstone using a glintstone blade and move to another body that wasn’t shortlisted by the greater will to become a candidate for the next God of the lands between
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I think that Ranni’s Primal Glintstone was in the Dark Moon Ring. That’s why she comes back to life after killing her Two Fingers. Ranni didn’t need the Rune of Death to stay alive, it was created when she killed her body. She said that she killed her body so she couldn’t be controlled by her Two Fingers.
@xRickAstleyx2 жыл бұрын
IT says in the Glinstone Blade's description that when sorcerers did that, that they technically died. Gods can't die, so Ranni neded the rune of death to leave her Empyrean body. I would say that glinstone is probably the method she used to bind herself to her doll body.
@xRickAstleyx2 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli I don't think the rune of death was created when Ranni and Godwyn died, as the Black Knife Assassins are stated multiple times to have stolen the rune of death to make the weapons they used to slay gods. What you're thinking of is "Mending Rune of the Death-Prince" which is a different thing entirely, formed from the two hallowbrands that were made on Godwyn and Ranni when they got killed.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I meant to say she didn't need to Rune of Death to stay alive, and then say that the Cursemark of Death was created when she killed her body. Oops
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I like this a lot! It makes a lot of sense.
@foxywoxy1915 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted to view the crests in a clear pic. Love this video
@SinisterStromboli Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@zakaryrichmond3962 жыл бұрын
I was half asleep while listening to this video this morning and your description of the mood of Nokstella during the Glintstone Crest section immediately made me think of the fell Gods eye a large central circle with evenly spaced icons surrounding it only in this case there are eight
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
You have a good EYE lol, nice observation.
@lavalarva77282 жыл бұрын
I think the two fingers crest appears on the Elden Beast's special attack where it summons the Elden Ring where the circle closes up to blast you. It appears on the border you have to surpass to avoid the attack.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I think you're right! It would make sense too, if those are "the words of their faith"
@Noname00392 жыл бұрын
Great video and good analysis, it was a pleasant surprise to find it.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tarnishedarchaeologist2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent resource. Kudos!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kruxdewdrop12202 жыл бұрын
At 8:10, the center reminds me a lot of the crucible knights' armor, specifically the joints and chest where there are black dots surrounded similar wavey patterns.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Lol and I've always considered that a possible depiction of the Crucible of Life too
@glinteastwood2 жыл бұрын
Based on the title/topic alone, I could not click on this video fast enough. And what an absolute treat it is. Thank you! Subbed/belled/tempted to get a tattoo.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video! Also you're right, a lot of these Crests would be really cool tattoos.
@sirrealism73002 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of the best elden ring lore videos ive seen yet. Vaati has been failing me, this is what i want.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Wow thats an incredible compliment! Thanks so much.
@ironstar1832 жыл бұрын
Love the different perspective and approach, subbed!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RyanMDanks2 жыл бұрын
Underrated channel. Loved the video. Keep going
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@rkmugen2 жыл бұрын
Man, this is why I bought this game.... all the thought and detail they put into it. Once you beat the game, and apart from all the glitches and boss cheeses to try out and exploit, there is still so much to lore delve into, connections to make, theories to suppose, and this is before even getting into the speculation of how FromSoft will expand the story, either in a future sequel, prequel, or DLC. Just so much added value!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Every time I feel like I've found almost everything the game has to offer, I find something new. It's incredible.
@one-eyed-dragon2 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid mate, great analysis. But, I wanna add a small detail. So the Malenia crest is actually also used by her Cleanrot Knights, particularly the scythe wielding commanders, in a skill that buffs themselves and all nearby allies. And correct me if I’m wrong, but it is possible you may have gotten these symbols from a reddit post that I actually did, posting the different symbols with their labels. And well, I am afraid I mislabelled the Malenia one as a Demihuman Queen sigil, further promoting that myth. I have since made a corrected version but I’ve sort of forgotten to post it anywhere. I hope I do not sound rude with my assumption, just mostly wanted to talk about my horrid lore mistake 😆😆
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I also noticed that the Cleanrot Knights use a buff with Malenia's Crest while I was streaming, but it was a few days after I published the video. I was pissed lol. I tried to look up these symbols to see if anyone online had any info on them yet, and a few places and images had that symbol labeled as the demihuman crest. I think I saw a reddit post or two about these symbols too, but I wasn't trying to call out any specific person. In another comment, I saw someone say that a Demihuman Queen is shown casting a spell with that crest in a trailer or something, which helps explain how the rumor started too.
@hiroshima192 жыл бұрын
your mic sounds better in this video, not as much background noise. good content too, I haven't seen anyone else cover this yet
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bertyamgeebler18652 жыл бұрын
ahh so cool! i have always loved the detail put into items and crests
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I didn’t expect there to be so much detail honestly, I had more to say than I thought I would.
@Sharmanixs2 жыл бұрын
Ever since I've seen the first trailer of Elden Ring and I saw these symbols I've always wanted to explore more what they mean. Thanks!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help out!
@rafaellenzi.advogado2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting man, keep up the good work!
@darlingxluxii79772 жыл бұрын
Well said 💕
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it! I appreciate your support.
@lemonarque99272 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly engaging video, i love the way you narrated and explained 🐸👍
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@higinho232 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!
@exxy99312 жыл бұрын
20:25 - the bottom left symbol in the circle (think of like a stick-lined 8 with a line through it) immediately reminds me of the Symbol of Sacrifice from Berserk. To my knowledge, you can usually (not always) see overtly Berserk inspired things connecting to multiplayer functionality in Soulsborne games (take for instance, the different eye orbs in the original Dark Souls being similar to Beherits like Griffith's "Egg of the King"). It's not a 1:1 likeness but probably the closest they could get without risking copyright infringement.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thats really cool, good eye
@exxy993110 ай бұрын
@erStromboli my apologies for effectively graveyard posting but I came back to this after the Elden Ring DLC reveal trailer to see if there's any more connections I can make with the previously known sigils. I wanted to mention that the Gravity Crest is likely Magnetism Field Lines. I forgot who and where I heard this from but thought it was worth adding. I couldn't find anything that definitively felt like it was expanded on by the DLC trailer. Edit: I spoke too soon. There's a knight at 0:50 in the reveal trailer that has a partisan that's vaguely similar to Mohg's symbol.
@yeshuabriles786210 ай бұрын
One of the most thorough videos I’ve seen. Thanks, you’ve given me more questions than answers. 😂
@pepega81982 жыл бұрын
miquella’s crest was on the door of the town beyond snowfield which leads to haligtree
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
That probably because the town is guarding Miquella’s Haligtree! A really weird thing about that town is that there are 3 Black Knives there too
@AesaKamar2 жыл бұрын
I love this content! Thanks for making it~
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you liked it!
@quickclaw2402 жыл бұрын
The birds remind me of Hunin and Munin.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good observation, they are kinda similar. Instead of going out and collecting information like Hunin and Munin, they find bodies.
@gabrielandrade92372 жыл бұрын
seeing the crests in a good resolution for the first time, the dragon Crest resemble a little the horns and remembers me of the crucible, just like the twirl at the center of the black flame crest also resemble some sort of fiery chaos
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Good observations! The dragon communion crest reminds me of the crucible too.
@SirianXM8 ай бұрын
Really cool video, haven't seen anyone else talking about this. Thank you 🙏
@Cosmic-Sorceress-172 жыл бұрын
It's incredible how much a spell says about someone who casts it, and what the crests of spells used by someone say about what they may believe or strive for. This is why I love using magic so much, since magic is an artistic expression and reflection of it's user. It's why I commit myself to certain types of magic that fit a character's personality and beliefs. These crests say so much about magic as a whole, even forms of magic that seem so distant from one another. I love how magic in Elden Ring is so deeply connected to life and the cycle of life: it really makes it stand out as a magic system to me.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thats a really awesome way to look at it!
@Cosmic-Sorceress-172 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli Thank you! I always love getting into lore dives with videos like these to help inspire me and keep me immersed as I eagerly await more content.
@its_nuked2 жыл бұрын
Really cool video and a topic i havent seen anyone else discuss. Good shit man ^^
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jonnymario7712 жыл бұрын
I never thought about connecting death with glintstone, but we know an entity called the twinbird that was the mother of all deathbirds.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
The Deathbirds also use ghostflame sorcery kinda like the Death Hexes. Theirs is a different color and cold tho.
@ben-ty9jo2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video about a subject I largely haven't seen covered much in the community, you've earned a subscriber🙂
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, that was exactly what I was going for!
@ividyon2 жыл бұрын
The last "crest" you couldn't identify is particle textured for 'light' VFX such as Radagon's or Elden Beast's Holy attacks. Look at such attacks with "Holy" effects up close to find em.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Someone let me know on twitter a few days after I made the video and I got some great pics! You're totally right though
@ixph2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video! I'm looking forward to the next one as I love looking at all the details on the armor sets. However, I think the music is slightly too loud compared to your voice. Otherwise, great job!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I agree about the background music, it’ll be balance better next time!
@darlingxluxii79772 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel!! Big support!! These symbols Analysis are so helpful! Really appreciate it! There are a huge amount in this game haha 🥰💕✨👌🏽 overall a great video!! ♥️🤗
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
@nazek42162 жыл бұрын
I have a hunch that the second staff in the Sellia crest is the Staff of Loss respectively. The Staff of Loss is notable for not having a glintstone, matching the empty space at the tip, and it's found in Sellia.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
thats a good thought, I'm going to look into that
@M12Z02 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and the research. I was anxious to know what those simbols were
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you liked the video!
@Endra88 Жыл бұрын
Finally found even deeper meaning into this game. I really love how From goes into every little detail. Good job! A little critic but you could probably do without the bg music or at least lower it by like 50%. I found it very distracting.
@SinisterStromboli Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Also I agree, I’ve been working on improving the volume in my future videos.
@user-rv8yv4yh9n2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was a very interesting idea that spells always start with the symbol first summoned before the spell, like you're pulling the magic from the seal itself
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Same! It really makes each magic type feel like it has an identity
@joshuaortiz66812 жыл бұрын
I like the similarities in the Carian, nox, and sellian crest. It hints that they’re related and came from the same group (ancient astrologers). My personal theory is that numen and the ancient astrologers are the same group that came from outside the land between and settling around the fire giant mountain and that Queen marika was supposed to be their empyrean for the dark moon (like Ranni would do later) but she betrayed them and became the empyrean for the greater will instead. This would mean the nox are the eternal, which are numen, as said by Gowry about the Sellians and the description of the black knife assassin’s weapons along with Rogier’s dialogue about the night of the black knives, and then that would mean that Rennala is numen as she is also an ancient astrologer (stargazer heirloom) and moon worshipper like the nox, implying that she is old (and long lived like the numen).
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I've had an idea like this before but not this fleshed out! I'm going to look into this, great observations
@throg46572 жыл бұрын
16:37 kinda looks like a troll’s hammer doesn’t it?
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
It does actually Gideon’s Crest actually has several similarities with the Fell God that I’ve never noticed before, fantastic observation!
@leno91902 жыл бұрын
Nice video, very excited for you future content :)
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@eldenringpvpenthusiast17102 жыл бұрын
The throne in sellian crest looks like nights sacred ground throne with fingerslayer blade
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Good observation, you're 100% right!
@narukamisaika41602 жыл бұрын
Omggg even the divine towers with the clouds on the maaaaap!!!! Que the incredibles mystery music!!!!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
The Divine Towers are really cool!
@JP123452 жыл бұрын
17:39 I think the more likely explanation is that Miquella and Malenia are twins in a referred to as "the twin prodigies", plus the multiple statues of them hugging all around the Haligtree
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Then why are there so many spiral things associated with the Erdtree? I feel like you ignored that part to focus on the fact that there happen to be twins involved, which could honestly be a coincidence without more context.
@JP123452 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli I'm sorry, I didn't put a lot of thought into it
@LL-yd8zz2 жыл бұрын
A thing of note is that the volcano manor and godskins aren't related at all besides being allies. I think the tail on the godskins is far more reminiscent to the tails the crucible knights use Ooh, and another thing, I think the eye like shape in the frezied flame crest looks a lot like the pupils of Shabriri grapes - which are human eyes!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
We really don’t know for sure whether the godskins are related to volcano manor so I’d be careful when making definitive claims like that.
@quecobpt6 ай бұрын
Please, viewers and channel, rewatch from 10:35 to 11:05 of this video, while bearing in mind what the DLC trailers showed us. This connection between volcano manor and rykard/serpent, godskins, black flame and gloam eyed queen is getting pretty interesting...
@dovahkiin_brasil2 жыл бұрын
"the great tree was grafted by the Erdtree" Holy shit this make soo much sense and I never noticed
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thats how I felt! It finally made grafting make a bit of sense
@Kevin-uz5he2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I was always intrigued by the symbols. I'd like to add a couple of thing I didn't see in the comments: -The Giant's flame symbol middle ring looks like it has the the branches that impaled the giants in the mountains and are surrounding the fire monk camps. -The Troll's hammer has a design like the eye of the Fell God, with one circle surrounded by eight circles, which makes sense since the trolls betrayed the giants in that war.
@Kevin-uz5he2 жыл бұрын
-The four suns look like the spell Flame of the Fell God since it's a twirling fire ball, but that's a bit of a stretch
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Nice observation, I hadn't thought about the fact that it could be those thorny branches.
@ianperry49742 жыл бұрын
Still wishing we got a frenzied flame head/helmet when you do the lord of frenzied flame ending.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
It would be so much fun to run around as a Sauron eye lol
@mistermahdy2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this a lot!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’m glad you liked it.
@ducksocks6292 жыл бұрын
two things I noticed, the Dragon Communion Crest is Placidusax waiting at the center of Farum Azula (it's why the sides are broken), and the Stormveil Crest has a person standing in the center.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I really like both of these observations! It does seem like it could be Farum Azula on the Dragon Communion Crest. I'd noticed the shape on the Stormveil Crest before, but now that you mention it I think you're right. It really looks like its a person, good eye!
@TanakaMatsumoto2 жыл бұрын
It's not necessarily a magical crest, but more probable that it's a family crest on the cape of the Twinned armor. It's really hard to see because it's so faint but there is a crest of some kind on the cape. There's quite a few capes with crests on them that are quite hard to see, another is the Raging Wolf armor cape, it also has a crest on it that's really hard to see what it even is, I'm assuming once again family crest. It's cool to see all the unique designs littered all over the game.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
BRUH the symbol on the Twinned Armor's cape has been bothering me so much. It looks like a faded incomplete Crest and I've been trying to keep my eyes open for a complete or less faded example of it anywhere else, and I haven't found anything. Good eye though! I think some of the Crests on those capes could be important because they're not easily found anywhere else.
@nerfer200 Жыл бұрын
7:37 Actually, the Oracles mentioned are not the envoys, but rather an alternate meaning to Oracle: "To see visions" The bubbles claymen peer into are the oracles they hope to see visions of
@ghosttimm420 Жыл бұрын
14:00 Holy sh*t, this makes so much sense. I feel like I just had an epiphany.
@SinisterStromboli Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, the Formless Mother has some really interesting connections to things!
@ultrabear15832 жыл бұрын
The unknown crest at the end seems like the sparks came out from Radagon's golden lightning projectiles, and yes it seems to me there's word of light coming out before the golden lightning bolt explodes.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Someone on Twitter let me know that they’re in one of the Elden Beast’s attacks, I have some pics on Twitter! It may be in Radagon’s as well if that’s the case tho
@absolutezer01742 жыл бұрын
Nice work . Cant wait to see more
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chadhumbert17912 жыл бұрын
Amazing breakdown
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
@LucidLiuxx2 жыл бұрын
i don't know if this is right, but the dragon seal looks a bit like a heart, which stands out to me because you consume dragon hearts to gain their powers; the 2 half rings underneath could be symbolizing how the hearts contain the power of the dragons or something. also great video! i love learning about Elden Ring lore (even though i don't understand 90% of it lol) and this video helped a lot, keep up the good work!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Good observation about the dragon communion crest! I can’t believe I didn’t notice that it looked like a heart before Also thanks! I’m glad you liked the video
@dachimshvidobadze22862 ай бұрын
7:10 - reverse F and lightning bolt on right and left of the Carian crest are from anglo-saxon: ansuz and sygil, representing god (or ash/oak tree) and sun respectively. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_runes
@ILoveYou321472 жыл бұрын
I forget who i heard it from but the gravity crest doesn’t depict gravitational field but rather the Electromagnetic field of a planet
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks like an electromagnetic field, but it is literally gravity magic that has nothing to do with electromagnetism. Like sure we can all agree that it looks like that, but unless there's a reason for it to be an electromagnetic field, its a coincidence. For instance, we wouldn't look at a painting titled "Leonardo DaVinci" and say "actually that looks a lot more like Michelangelo, so its Michelangelo"
@ncuriousmediator94342 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli You at least can't say it looks like a gravitational field since gravitational fields don't have poles. Also there's nothing preventing an interpretation that gravity and electromagnetism are the same force in Elden Ring, which would also explain gravity lightning.
@eclipzex772 жыл бұрын
Hey! This was a great video, and just while i was playing the game i found the crest you see on Malenia on another place! If you fight the Cleanrot Knights, specifically the Scythe variant, there's a small chance that they'll prepare their Scythe and use a buff of sorts, and the buff uses the same crest you see on Malenia's cape! Maybe it's the Cleanrot Crest? Sorta like how Radahn uses a Lion for his Knights?
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I saw them use that buff right after I released this video, I was pissed💀 Thanks for pointing it out though! I’m pretty sure it’s malenia’s crest
@Rav3r9272 жыл бұрын
Cue William Dafoe: "Symbolism, I believe the word you were looking for is symbolism." "I'm an expert at nameiology."
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I've gotta see this movie bc I've been seeing variations of this comment all over lol
@Rav3r9272 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli such a good movie, hope you got a chance to check it out!
@marhawkman3032 жыл бұрын
1:45 I feel the need to point out that one of the words used in Japanese that can be translated as "star"(sei)... actually just refers to objects you can see in the sky in general. So... that could be part of the ambiguity here.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that, thanks for letting me know!
@Kreacher32 жыл бұрын
18:00 Kind of looks like a family tree with portraits as the fruits, as I believe family trees are sometimes drawn. It has the right number of icons for them to be Marika in the centre and Radagon and Godrey on either side. Each side terminates in twins, which might be Miquella-Malenia and Mohg-Morgott which leaves one icon on each side for Radahn and Godwyn. Could be a stretch though, Edit: Wait, that doesn't leave any space for Ranni. You could speculate that Ranni was born after the twins and this crest was designed before her birth (Which would also explain the absence of Melina) but that seems very tenuous. Also, I assume Ranni is the oldest sibling because she's Rennala's heir? Or is there no explicit mention of that?
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
It’s very possible that the single dot with 8 around it represents Marika and her children, but it’s hard to tell It would be interesting if Malenia is wearing a Crest that represents that though
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Also, I think Ranni is Rennala’s heir because they have a matriarchal system Carian princesses are mentioned a lot, but Carian Princes never are, so I think Ranni is the heir bc she’s the only princess left
@Kreacher32 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli Makes sense!
@Dark_Anarchus2 жыл бұрын
The gravity crest: it is 2 Astel one in the upper part and one in the bottom. We can see his neck with his hair and mandibles encircling a sphere in the middle. As in the astel ranged attack where he blast us with a bolt. Or the ball in the middle is an eye. The eye on Astel and the fallingstar beasts.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thats a cool idea, I like that!
@Dark_Anarchus2 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli Ho and I just realized that the sphere in the middle might be an eye. Like the one one the fallingstar beasts and astel. It would make even more sense that this is astel in the symbol.
@feathertop2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really informative!
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content, subbed and looking forward to more.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I appreciate it.
@jakeniclaz53932 жыл бұрын
I believe the unkwown crest, originates from the holy attacks the Elden beast and Radagon use, but I might be mistaken. If they do appear they are minuscule
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Someone told me about this on Twitter and you’re absolutely right! I’ll go over it in my next vid, but I got some awesome pics of it. You can see them on my Twitter if you’re interested
@The_Vent_Goblin2 жыл бұрын
Note about the Gravity crest: it's actually a magnetic field diagram, which would make sense given that all gravity sorceries either push or pull things. Even the cragblade ash of war coats the blade in rock, which could be due to a strong magnetic charge running through the blade.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I agree that it looks more like a magnetic field, but unless we find a way to really connect magnetism to gravity I'm not sure if it means anything. There's always the possibility that it was an artistic choice to make the field more easily recognizable as a field. I will say that the Onyx and Alabaster Lords using gravity magic based on repelling and attracting things does kinda sound like magnetism tho.
@MadMethod-qs1en2 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli It's also possible that the medieval society in ER has misunderstood magnetism as gravity with the biggest hint being the 'gravity' crest itself. While near a body of planetary mass that has a significant magnetic field, you can use magnetism to defy that mass's gravity. There are real-life machines that can do this. Notice that whenever we see the purple aura of 'gravity' magic, there are bolts of electricity crackling around it, as if strong static forces are being concentrated manipulated. With enough concentrated magnetic force, you can manipulate light to create images of black holes or lift and move even non-magnetic objects and such. But also, notice that the stones that are being manipulated in spells like rock sling, the cragblade AoW, and the gravity stone fan are all of the same greyish hue with striated patterns running through their surface or as part of their structure, as if they contain some kind of ore. Even the Ruins Greatsword, which has a 'gravity' skill, has noticeable striations that may denote some kind of ore-containing stone. I'm pretty sure scholars made this same mistake in the real world centuries ago. So maybe Radahn was holding Astel back with a planet-size magnetic force field and that's why 'the strongest of all demigods' is easier to defeat than Malenia. Homie couldn't possibly use his full power since most of it was being used to hold an eldritch abomination at bay.
@LunarSpellbook2 жыл бұрын
Rykards crest looks like he is devouring the golden order, and the golden order seal looks like a tree grafted on to roots with a UFO above (LOL).
@LunarSpellbook2 жыл бұрын
One more little detail in the three fingers crest is that their is a fingerprint, so many details in such a simple crest :)
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
You're totally right! The 3 Fingers crest is honestly an amazing design. Nice find.
@goldenbough65632 жыл бұрын
Great video. Amazing detail. You must be as obsessed with this damn game as I am. I've 2 comments relating to content. First, is there any chance the obsidian of the godskin seal is a nod to the black moon of nokastella or are there any similarities between those two seals? Secondly, I think it very likely the erd tree is a grafted tree. The falling star bearing the elden beast crashed into the great tree, removing its top, depositing the beast inside and continuing on to land at the impact crater in the sealed tunnel. The beast had to get inside the tree somehow and I don't think it tunneled its way in. The broken off top containing it was the crucible and the erd tree grew from this point. That makes the whole tree a grafted one, with the lower portion of the great tree acting as rootstock and the erd tree function as the scion. Again, great work. I watch all the lore videos and this one stands out as one of the best.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words, they mean a lot to me! I haven't found anything that suggests that obsidian is related to the Black Moon of Nokstella in my opinion. I've never thought of that before though, so I'll keep my eyes open for any connections. I will say that the description for Memory Stones says that they are literally pieces of the Black Moon of Nokstella, and it looks more like marble than glass. I'll have a lot more to say about the Black Moon in my next symbology video though! I also think the Erdtree was grafted onto what was once the Great Tree. The Crucible of Life and Great Tree are different names for the same thing, because the Crucible Tree Helm says it resembles the Great Tree, while the weapon Siluria's Tree depicts a crucible and looks just like the Helm. So the fact that there are Crucible Knights with Axe themed armor makes me think they cut it down.
@romanpaulo80832 жыл бұрын
The fire monks crest looks like the forge ,viewed from the top
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
You're right, it does!
@TheHonoredMadman2 жыл бұрын
Great work man. Also great user name
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Supercohboy2 жыл бұрын
10:18 the dragon communion seal itself is supposed to represent the claws given to the original dragons, claws which represented their given intelligence and greater capability bestowed upon them by their ancient god. This can be confirmed through a few items and pieces of dialogue throughout the game, with the claws being mentioned The spiral in the center of this "claw" may have to do with the Golden Ratio in mathematics. It was most likely the best way to artistically represent "dragons are a part of the ancient order of things and are natural/born on this plain" in a way that's going to be symbolically significant. This is reinforced by the description of the dragon communion seal itself. The outer, licking symbols on the crest primarily represent their breath power imo, since their breath ability is what those within the Dragon Communion will be primarily emulating. If the artist DID think this hard about every little detail, rather than focusing on a few primary concepts to represent in the piece which does create incidental shapes at times...I see a bit of a draconic face within the crest itself. The inner circle of the crest has what looks like eyes, and the outermost symbol has a "tongue" hanging out of the face at the very bottom of the crest. That feels like a stretch though.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
I think you're talking about description of the Cinquedea. Cinquedea are real Italian shortswords/daggers, and their name translates to "5 Fingers" bc was about the width of the weapon's blade. The Elden Ring Cinquedea says that its design celebrates the beastmen's 5 fingers that represent the intelligence once granted to their kind. Claws being a sign of intelligence wouldn't quite make sense because that's an animalistic trait. Fingers allow you to use tools and create things, which is generally a sign of intelligence. I like your take on the outside of the symbol representing their breath though, that would make a lot of sense.
@Supercohboy2 жыл бұрын
@@SinisterStromboli ah yes, I couldn't remember if it was claws or fingers that were referenced! I thought that the term claws was used, my mistake. That's what I was referencing. The Ashen Hollow has a video, Every Dragon Explained, that talks about the Beastmen and ancient dragons (23:55ish), and the significance of their hands. I assumed that this was carried over to the Dragon Communion Seal, but there's no evidence that the church of dragon Communion recognized the significance, let alone designed their Crest off of this information. I think that I associated the two together because the ancient dragons' hands looks rather primordial, as does the claw hand on the seal.
@diaznuts59472 жыл бұрын
This is so good man
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@FilmAcolyteReturns2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wanted to check these out for myself.
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help out!
@HealthyMaxwellRoth2 жыл бұрын
Wait. Is this the Golden Mask at the top of the Golden Ordrer Fundamentalists crest?
@SinisterStromboli2 жыл бұрын
It does look pretty similar! Good observation! I think there are two little symbols inside it just like his mask too! WHOA I think you’re onto some real shit here!