Japanese automakers shocked by BYD & Tesla manufacturing after teardown

[@theinfralink6598]

I bought a 2023 RAV4. When I first started driving on expressway, I kept thinking my doors or windows are not fully closed because of the noise level. So much for Japanese quality.

[@hermesliteratus882]

This is disgraceful.

[@paolopetrozzi2213]

Chinese propagandists/trolls are even cheaper than Chinese EVs.

[@theinfralink6598]

I checked with the dealer. Apparently I’m not the only RAV4 owner who complains about this problem.

[@Beck-b9g]

EVs are easier to build and better. Plus you can power them with cheap local energy...no sending gas/petro money to foreign countries.

[@林振华-t4v]

That is right, upon reaching certain market size. The Raw material becomes close loop. Means you can keep the economic going by keep recycling the material. Aka lithitium. Being self sufficent is key to so call national security. They shouldve aware of that.

[@ElfIng1986]

To acknowledge one’s shame demands courage.

[@Jeff-sm8of]

Evs have plenty of upside. Ice vehicles have peaked.

[@SparkySho]

What or who is ur source of information

[@blackknight4996]

​@@SparkySho Common sense and a good education.

[@AB_123_AB]

@@SparkySho Ah, the "were you there" argument. Are you also a religiotard?

[@ommanipadmehung3014]

Love pure EVs

[@thomas94305]

NMH batteries have a higher power density than lithium... important for parallel hybrids, and often a better choice there.

[@DjFonzii]

Hey Sam... you keep mentioning free tickets to EV show, but either link is missing or doesn't work (from previous post) still showing full price.

[@panatteri]

I was about to make a similar enquiry.

[@aljose3312]

Same here can't see the link to free tickets?

[@25Alpha]

Hi Sam, I can't see the link for the free EV tickets. You only have the link showing a $10.00 discount

[@steak5599]

BYD and Tesla both manage to reach Economy of Scale to bring price down, is really a simple concept. Making Core components in house also helps, while other Automakers have to source their Batteries from likes of Samsung or LG.

[@SparkySho]

Bs byd is NOT PROFITABLE

[@PD55_]

Maybe it's just me but it seems like we are witnessing some of the most dramatic positive shifts in human technological development. Including the ability to screw things up on a global scale due to ancient political dysfunctions, irrational destructive warfare, fragility of financial systems.

[@jjsmith4829]

they user fewer parts and these parts are used in multiple different models

[@PropanePete]

That’s nothing new. For example, a great number of VW parts are also interchangeable in the Audi and Skoda.

[@stizzygrayson5541]

Aliens?

[@castletown999]

I have often wondered if EV would wind up like the early days of Personal Computers (PC). Anyone (like Dell) could buy the chips , motherboards, power supplies etc. and put together a decent system and sell it competitively. Why wouldn't EVs go the same way? If you go down that rabbit hole, you have to ask: Who will make the components? Like PCs, the hardware parts like motors and batteries will become commodities, almost certainly Chinese. Who will be the Microsoft of EVs? Tesla? Interesting to think on... Perhaps we are seeing the beginning of that with the Chinese vendors.

[@林振华-t4v]

Yeah, why not... That is something worth exploring...

[@bobwallace9753]

You can make your own EV. People have been doing that for years, mostly by converting ICEV bodies. But you won't be able to get anywhere close to as good as a well designed, well built factory EV. Remember those homebrew computers? They didn't fit in a notebook, tablet, or phone.

[@Victic005]

Carnage

[@mydogsbutler]

China has as many engineers as US, Canada, Australia, Germany and Japan... combined. The huge numbers of engineers allows them to quickly automatate their factories.

[@SparkySho]

……… to build fool cells

[@davidpearn5925]

Elon has given up on auto beyond the spruiking stage. It's the FSD gambit he's flogging NOW.

[@SparkySho]

Gudday mate I wanna be first!!! if I ain’t first I ain’t gon gaf HA

[@ChengHao03]

Tesla stock dipped severally , resulting to about 23% drop in the shares value this month. I seriously need suggestions on how to diversify my $400k portfolio made up of volatile TSLA.

[@BaozhaiDongmei]

Investing without proper guidance can lead to mistakes and losses. I've learned this from my own experience.If you're new to investing or don't have much time, it's best to get advice from an expert.

[@Magdalena-u7l]

I agree. Exactly why I now work with one. A lot of folks downplay the role of advisors until being burnt by their emotions, no offense. I remember some years back, during the covid-outbreak, I needed a good boost to stay afloat, hence researched for advisors and thankfully came across one with grit. As of today, my cash reserve has yielded from $350k to nearly $1m

[@JunlaiAiguo3c]

How can I reach this adviser of yours? because I'm seeking for a more effective investment approach on my savings

[@Magdalena-u7l]

Nicole Anastasia Plumlee can't divulge much. Most likely, the internet should have her basic info, you can research if you like.

[@JunlaiAiguo3c]

She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.

[@KevinJones-Peacefreak]

Japan should be working with Sandy Munro.

[@mnhsty]

Nothing wrong with NiMH batteries for hybrids. Toyota uses lithium in EV’s or PHEV’s.

[@林振华-t4v]

😂Nothing wrong with it other than it is heavier than lithitium battery. Unable to sustain high current discharge like nicad battery. The momory effect is just as bad as the nicad. The nimh is a such of whole of nothing in the hindsight. How this battery technology took off for a brieft decade is somewhat a puzzles. I know the Nimh did not gain much popularity before it got phased out by lithitium battery in the RC community. It certainly did not replace the nicad battery it was mean to replace for sure

[@erktrek]

Except maybe energy density/capacity, lifespan, size/weight, self discharge issues, charging/discharging performance, memory effects, and higher maintenance... but yeah, sure - they are cheaper.

[@ArizVern]

TAIRING DOWN CAR DOES NOT TELL MEAITHIOD HOW CAR WAS PUT TOGETHER.

[@jackchen5290]

One challenge with maintaining quality as a Chinese car manufacturer is the quality of their suppliers. As a culture Known for cutting corners, it’s difficult for BYD to maintain quality of their supplier or supplier’s supplier all the way down the supply chain.

[@bobwallace9753]

Not sure why. BYD is a large scale purchaser and can dictate the quality of the components delivered. Tesla probably does it better due to Tesla embedding their engineers inside their suppliers.

[@Joeschmoe8930]

The answer is they are not making money on them. These manufacturers are highly subsidized and China needs to expand market share and exports.

[@mkashay]

Thinking the same.

[@zacwayne1181]

so , what you could do is most important

[@akakakakakak3084]

So it proves China is very rich that can subsidize every fields in manufacturing with losing money.

[@bobwallace9753]

Tesla is the only company making EV profits. Tesla is the only company that has reached sufficient scale needed to achieve profitability. Other companies will continue to grow and become profitable.

[@DJDJ-xr1qs]

Cheap slave labor = low cost.

[@bobwallace9753]

China no longer has "cheap slave labor". Labor costs are lower in Mexico than in China.

[@jameswoffinden9215]

I can believe that Japanese focus more on quality than the Chinese manufacturers. It will take time for the Chinese companies to prove they can make quality, reliable cars that last at least 200,000 miles. Time will tell. Until then, realistically, they must sell them at a cheaper price.

[@林振华-t4v]

😂There are tons of EV in China piling more than half million kilometers. A handful more than 200k miles. They are ride sharing viechles and Taxi fleet. I get on one in August clocking close to a million. The car is pretty beat up just like another cab with decent mile. The driver said, other than the battery and motor. The suspension is pretty worn becasue he did not bother to bring tha car back to replace those bushing. It is a GAC model for cab. So, there you have it. A speciment of service proven Chinese EV. Lot better than the 2016 highlander I trade in last year. I need to cliam warrenty on the rear brake becasue the stupid thing decided to seized at 20k miles. And the dealer was trying to wiggle off from the warrenty liability until I said I will go to file a complain to Toyota Corporate. 😂

[@lot2352]

Just make a trip to China. You will change your mind.

[@akakakakakak3084]

People used to use their imaginations to criticize, while everyone criticized Japanese cars are craps and small in the 70s', and now keep saying Japanese products are in top quality.

[@bobwallace9753]

@@akakakakakak3084 Initially the cars Japan exported were not great. But Japan learned quickly. China also learns.

[@Victic005]

Can't wait to see the hydrogen car Toyota will come out and see what happens. Or will they come to their senses and don't even bother.

[@TerryHickey-xt4mf]

they are going to use the BYD underpinnings in some of their future evs.

[@Victic005]

@@TerryHickey-xt4mf they said EV is not the future. Hahaha 😆

[@SparkySho]

Don’t lite a cigarette

[@andrewsmith2973]

Your devotion to Chinese manufacturing is amazing. Why not move there?

[@jazzman7167]

You live in China already my friend, half the stuff in your home is made in China, and soon so will you car.

[@cong-organic]

Makes you triggered, hmm?

[@WANDERER0070]

Cn is awesome place but very busy crowded, Watch Living in China or Rafa goes around

[@RustyBertrandnd]

If I could be as confident as the man in this video, I would have conquered the world by now🔥