Elite: Dangerous - Stranger Than Fiction

[@ZirconX1]

"How far are you ready to go even if it's just a game" *whistles innocently whilst the killable children mod is installed in the skyrim game*

[@denfire5063]

i mean they just won't shut up tho (joke*)

[@Kar4ever3]

*Laughs in Rimworld*

[@Truex007]

@Evilmike42 The laughter is fake, only the tears are real...

[@FARBerserker]

*derisive Fallout snort* thieving little bastards. also, always in the way.

[@gluever54]

Eh, that's not the worse thing you could do to a child with a mod in skyrim

[@cshan2313]

"How far will you prepare to go to get what you want out of a game?" flashback to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 'No Russian' mission

[@minhkhangtran6948]

Also Spec Op: The Line in general, and Undertale's genocide route.

[@cshan2313]

@@TheKurikCale they kinda did warn u when u open mw2 first time whether u wanted to skip it...but it was unclear

[@urishima]

@@TheKurikCale In the German version they actually don't let you fire your gun in that sequence. Fuck censors.

[@tba113]

@@minhkhangtran6948 The Line can go to blazes. I had the same issue with FarCry 5's 'conditioning' mission, and while I never played WoW, it sounds like the torture quest line Jingles mentioned is similar: where the games *force* the player to do highly questionable things to continue, things that a savvy player would be suspicious or hesitant enough about that they'd look for some other way to take care of business. The games, though, allow no other option than to do something terrible, and then have the gall to go all "My God, you monster, what have you done?!" once you finish jumping through the hoops they'd set up as your only way forward. That said, it's absolutely hilarious looking through the comments on YT videos for the song 'Only You'. Half the comments are people reminiscing about dancing to it at weddings decades ago, and the other half are asking if the rookie is feeling all right, or screaming "PURGE THE WEAK". It's all rather pleasantly surreal.

[@HolyDuckTurtle]

Thankfully you don't have to actually kill a single civilian to complete the mission. I think the squad AI could take care of the response team too if you waited long enough, but I can't remember that much.

[@paintedblue1791]

Pilot : Jingles Status : Dangerous (but only to himself!)

[@TheGeneralKirov]

Who gives a crap about twiter! Deleted the app 5 years ago and never looked back. Problem solved.

[@Nightdare]

Twitter is evil, as per WoW doctrine: therefore we are justified to kill it

[@L0RDLUK]

Agreed, Twitter is just a place for people who like to argue for no reason, it seems. I'm glad I never made an account.

[@I_Hate_Youtube_Handles]

Imagine believing someone with 0 evidence. This comment was made by the common sense gang

[@tananam9782]

@@I_Hate_KZbin_Handles But... how do you keep abreast of Presidential policy? Twitter is an official policy channel, don't you know. BTW, I love, love, LOVE your handle. Thief, it should be mine ;P. You must be very short, He must touch you with His noodley appendages quite often. Ramen. Oh, and AAARRRGGGHHH!

[@TheTripleAce3]

"Before the world went crazy" 1. someone please make a book with this title 2. I never realized Jingles was older than the Queen

[@elmateo77]

Sounds like a book about a zombie apocalypse or something...

[@rawrmcsaurs6052]

Jingles is the Queen's senpai

[@lc9072]

Gnomish years are longer than human years. Hes about 95 in human years. About 46 in Gnomish years.

[@tananam9782]

@@elmateo77 Trying SOOO hard not to make a current political/pandemic screw-up comment. SOOOO hard. Man, it's difficult. Like, trying not to scratch at chicken pox, difficult. Pox. Yeah. Gosh I don't want to scratch, but I can't help it! Did I do it? I don't think I did it. I think I scratched. It felt good for a moment, but I think it left a scar. :(

[@Spotcats]

When I pay for a game, everything in the game is already mine. The NPC's are just holding it for me.

[@socalkylex]

🤣

[@tananam9782]

Unless you're sucked into one of the modern schemes. Pay to play, subscriptions, in-game purchase, etc. As with the music industry 20 years past, with computer software these days you don't own anything, you merely pay rent for the privilege of using it. Just try to access your own intellectual media, say, a photo taken with a modern high quality camera. Even worse, try to do even the most basic function with it, say, exposure or color correction adjustment. Just... Try. Do I sound bitter?

[@Aelric78]

Their game includes piracy, smuggling, alien attacks and attempted genocide. I'd say they're not endorsing any of those things either, just making a gritty game world.

[@L0RDLUK]

But the internet mobs of outraged lunatics don't care...

[@Aelric78]

@@L0RDLUK likely so. But I'd suggest they're also not buying many copies of Elite: Dangerous, soooo...

[@L0RDLUK]

@@Aelric78 Also a good point

[@SPIRIT-117]

@@L0RDLUK don't bring it up, make it too famous and someone will try to cancel culture the game.

[@OFS_Razgriz]

I'd argue the fact that you can only abstain from conducting such actions, and do not have the option to outwardly oppose and punish such requests, is one of the negative aspects of missions in this game. The consequences of the AI (or players for that matter) doing illegal things is virtually nonexistent. And for another matter, I'm fairly certain there are no counter-missions for some of these mission types - why can't you ALSO have the option of escorting/protecting the protesters? These are legitimate questions that should be asked not just from a social justice standpoint but from a roleplaying perspective as well.

[@kivitelezo]

"Beluga class liners" while targeting an Orca... Oh Jingles, never change!

[@Nails077]

You know what he is like when it comes to identifying things.

[@billyhyde1415]

"Captain, we've destroyed a friendly submarine!"

[@scandor8599]

Actually I think you'll find that it was an Aoba

[@GyorBox]

Jingles: "So long, and thanks for all the fish." Me: "Always remember to bring your towel!"

[@kc9602]

And remember your Babel Fish!!

[@douggalbreath736]

42...

[@shadowrunner2323]

I never did run the civil unrest missions once I figured out the targets, didn't sit right with me either. As for the megaship turrets missions, you can just ram the generators that you're supposed to target and it won't incur a bounty on you. full power to shields and give it RAMMING SPEED!!

[@Dafmeister1978]

Today is a good day to not die.

[@tietosanakirja]

The thing about role play is, that it's a sort of study in to the (human) condition. You experiment with different roles, motivations and internal justifications a person might have, to do the sort of things people, or gnomes might do, good or bad. It's an exercise that promotes empathy towards all sorts of characters. You don't have to agree with what the character does or thinks, but at least you know why they might do or think that way.

[@rightlyryan]

Well said!

[@0xTas]

Underrated comment.

[@tananam9782]

Humans and gnomes? Your anti-Troll elitism has no place on KZbin! How dare you!? ...I'm hungry, I think I see some gruffy looking billy goats coming towards my bridge. Gotta go preheat my oven. Your comment has merit. Thanks.

[@veranicus6696]

I think, the issue of people not being able to distinquish between pixels and humans , might be the same as people not being able to distinquish between actors and roles\characters. Like it or not it is a think that actors get harrassed for playing the bad guys in movies. Idk where that comes from. I think it is super weird, but i am for at least speaking about it.

[@corinthiansdaniels3728]

Wait WHAT REALLY wtf is wrong with people?

[@panzerburgerwafflemaker]

I agree

[@miskatonic6210]

It's scientifically proven that doing something repulsive in a virtual world makes it easier to do the real thing. And getting rewarded for that behaviour and being able to avoid punishment in a game has an effect on the brain, too. Not judging anything, that's just how our brain works.

[@hansmuster1572]

@@miskatonic6210 Well said and very true... in this case it's far enough from reality, so i dont think the effect will be strong or even impactfull at all, but that does not change the simple fact, that we are indeed conditioned by our sorroundings and that includes culture and entertainment. To deny that means basically to hand over your own agency in the matter since you can not influence what you dont recognize.

[@deamon002]

@@miskatonic6210 This is a bold-faced lie. You should be ashamed. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.

[@Reddotzebra]

Last time I met a thargoid it ripped me out of witchspace over in the Witch's Head nebula, I was flying my engineered AspX at the time but it's engineered for jumping, and not fighting aliens. Unlinke the last time I'd met one of the starfishies it didn't immediately blast me with its shutdown wave so I just put engines on full burn and tried to dodge it, which then led to it deploying its little drone cloud, which then led to me ramming it accidentally. THEN it blasted me with its shutdown wave and I thought I was dead, except it just made a lot of funny noises and then warped out. The Bug-eyed monsters are weird...

[@NMonterosso]

As scary as they can be they won't attack you unless you attack them. I almost shit my self when I got pulled out of a jump the first time. Now it's just an annoyance because they are just trolling and wasting my time.

[@PreceptorGrant]

I sometimes wonder if the thargoids who hyperdict people are just grinding out engineering materials and need scans of human ships....

[@torukisaragi2712]

@@PreceptorGrant holy.... Why does that make SENSE

[@102728]

@@PreceptorGrant Now I want space tentacles after space legs, you know, play as a thargoid

[@PreceptorGrant]

@@102728 Mmm, space tentacles.....oh wait, I'm thinking of the other kind of tentacles..... Still an expansion of thargoid related content and gameplay would be very nice, like if all those permit-locked systems we presume are their home region had something to see and do in them

[@Dr_V]

No reasonable person would accuse you of promoting violence towards protesters Jingles, on the contrary, the mature argument you made here with your characteristic blunt honesty can be used to counter that kind of mentality. Hiding behind the bush is what allowed such crap to keep happening in this day and age, people should be more openly talking about such sensitive matters in order to promote sustainable social and political changes.

[@HappyFoxtrot]

There are very few reasonable people left out there... Or they are quiet/outshouted. Especially when blm/protests and ect. are concerned.

[@Riceball01]

@@HappyFoxtrot Sad but true. There definitely will be some that will, for the sake of virtue signalling, complain (loudly) about this particular mission and/or this video. It won't be so much that they're necessarily deeply offended, or anything like that, they'll complain s that they can be seen complaining just to show how woke they are and/or how anti everything "evil" they are.

[@102728]

@@HappyFoxtrot Nope, people don't change, society does. People are still as reasonable as they were whatever time you want to compare it to, but nowadays it's become commonplace to outlaw anything with a different opinion, because your opinion is right so others must be wrong. Most people just avoid the subject for peace of mind.

[@txspyrate4446]

It is hard to have any civil discussion when your opposition thinks of themselves as your moral superior and wants you destroyed to create the communist utopia. So no, not a lot of possible conversations to be had out there.

[@Karelwolfpup]

Vladimir Efimov isn't about reasonable, we don't live in a reasonable world

[@Alex-sc7ex]

That mission you only knocked out ONE turret, so the rest started firing :P Also, to not get a bounty or even hostile from the megaship just ram the power grid ;)

[@McGubbins42]

Also it was a turret he knocked out, not a missile launcher.

[@LordGrandKaiser]

@@McGubbins42 I'm pretty sure mega ship missile racks are considered turrets in this game.

[@orzorzelski1142]

Yes, stop the trash from burning down Space Wendy's! >how far are you willing to go in a game? Full-blown galactic war, blowing up stars for shits and giggles and wiping out anyone who doesn't submit is just another day whenever I play any 4x games. >it's ok to torture demons ARE YOU DEMONPHOBIC JINGLES? :P

[@PaperiLiidokki]

#demonlinvesmatter XD

[@Chrisadeth]

The thing is, art reflects reality. I actually like that they include missions like this in ELITE, because this kind of shit happens in reality, just with a different filter. I'm not blind to the horror filled truth of our world, which is why I love it when our own reality is reflected into art. Edit: in additional note, I highly doubt the human condition will disappear when we reach ourselves Beyond our solar system. Like it or not, THIS is part of what makes us human. It won't ever go away, as sad as that is to say. So, shying away from portraying our capabilities for evil in media, and giving game developers, movie directors, etc shit for portraying reality helps no one, least of all the problems that currently face our world.

[@jimminey-fooking-cricket4903]

There are "peaceful" and then there are Peaceful protest thought it all depends on the media spin.

[@TheBothvar]

Yeah, I have read lots of stories of "peaceful" protests where people were beaten and stores were ransacked and so on and so on. They like to use the term "mostly peaceful" quite a bit. Well, I am mostly peaceful until I take a bat to your skull too. Gotta love the media.

[@luisnunes2010]

Statue wreckers and bookstore burners are not peaceful and NEITHER ARE THOSE GIVING THEM COVER, lies notwhitstanding.

[@roqeyt3566]

was looking for this. Burning cops alive and yelling for them to slaughtered like pigs and wrapped up in a blanket isn't peaceful. Waiting for about an hour to amass critical mass and then start looting en masse without provocation isn't peaceful either. Attacking cop cars that are just passing by isn't peaceful either. The media loves to spin this. I wish Jingles had read more into the topic before talking about it.

[@brianthomson6512]

yes, just ask David Dorn about those "peaceful" protesters.. oh you cant, they killed him. www.kmov.com/news/second-man-charged-in-connection-with-death-of-retired-st-louis-police-captain-david-dorn/article_710c43a6-a90d-11ea-a7fb-773f3e096e33.html

[@theunknownone5990]

If a mob does come after you, DO NOT apologize. Mobs can't be reasoned with, and apologizing only makes it worse.

[@bobmartin9918]

They only see it as permission to beat you harder.

[@Gibby34340]

Yup, sad to see that Jingles is following the mass media's narrative that all these world-wide mob protests, or RIOTS, are justified. They're nothing but opportunistic anarchists that want the rule of law completely erased. The killing of a drug addict, that has recently held a pregnant woman at gunpoint and nearly beat her to death, by police brutality are 2 separate issues, but the mass media are doing their damnest to incite further division and violence by ENCOURAGING the violence and looting going on everywhere. Not sure about outside the US, but the "protesters" here are nothing but the lowest specimens of the human race that want nothing but free reign to steal and kill,and the existence of a police force is holding them back.

[@jyuppiter4540]

@@Gibby34340 Damn man, you gotta make it less obvious you're trolling.

[@ericexaybachay]

Plz, stop trying to defend an out of touch, old fart. It's pathetic...

[@ericexaybachay]

@@jyuppiter4540 and you need to make it less obvious that you're an idiot, like your favorite grandpa content producer...

[@StephenCole1916]

You and the devs had no idea of what was going to be happening in the world when they made this mission. Don't beat yourself up about it.

[@woody4077]

agreed theres no way ANYONE could've have predicted .....well 2020 a.d. or c.e.

[@davidburroughs7068]

Hopefully jingles will not get a future mission to spread a virus some wheres, because we know it will be a "done deal."

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

The devs aren't to blame. That ass who demands modular terminals? So far you had to kill traders, disable the defenses of a megaship and now murder protesters. The engineer who demands a 'payment' in artifacts only obtained by being a right asshole is a complete and utter bastard. Fuck Marco Quent

[@BrimstoneBrigadier]

I mean it's a video game soo...

[@woody4077]

@@davidburroughs7068 LOL

[@Parabueto]

To be honest the whole alignment thing in D&D was on the way out anyway. It's much better to just keep a track of your actions and decisions as a party and have people react to you accordingly.

[@FoxfirePoet]

I have always played DnD with people who considered the races as just races. I've never known it any other way, and I don't think it hurts the experience one bit.

[@robotshaveiteasy9459]

Whilst I understand sentiments about how missions such as this may impact the victims of real world parallels. The truth of it, these are games, in the universe of which this stuff occurs, you cannot censor realistic human actions in a game and not inherently change the universe's. As an extreme example, it would be like saying 40k should remove servitors as the issue of slavery is once again at the forefront of social issues. Story telling, whether it is in videogames, films, comics, music or books needs to be treated with a disconnect, unless the intent is to cause harm with that story, it is simply a matter of if it upsets you do not expose yourself to it. People attacking media for stuff like this are the idiots who spout everything should be accessible to everyone, which is true, but it only has to be accessible to everyone with an interest in that particular media.

[@Sentient_Eagle]

"How far are you ready to go even if it's just a game?" "Remember. No Russian."

[@jamesscott1974]

Glad for this series. Has got me back into playing after 2 years!! Don't forget to pin engineering upgrades you want in the future, so you can use them remotely

[@Snagabott]

I so hate it when works of fiction are changed, not for artistic reasons, but for reasons of virtue signalling.

[@scottperry7311]

You went there, I will too. While there are many peaceful protest after the death of Flyod, there are also many that are not 'Peaceful" and result in the some deaths and injury of many in people by "Protester brutality'. Add to that the destruction of property which will take decades to recover from in some communities here, poor minority communities which these protestors are supposedly fighting for but always seem to destroy. Many people are being shot or beaten by protesters here in the U.S. let alone the burning down of innocent peoples businesses and homes by protestors. The press does not cover most of it, in fact they excuse it and cover for it. Watch the videos of people throwing rocks, hitting, and otherwise being violent towards the police, before the police are singled out for their "brutality" in stopping this violence and destruction please.

[@drsch]

Yep, over 300 police officers ended up in emergency rooms as a result of those "peaceful protests." Not to mention the millions of dollars of damage to the property of innocent bystanders, the thousands of injuries, the murders, the arson, the lost jobs, the spread of the virus because of the protests and riots.

[@TallulahSoie]

You forget to mention the police and civilians who've been executed (not by police or military) since this farce began. Yes, it is a farce. It has nothing to do with justice. Not anymore. Justice for Floyd's death got underway within hours of his death.

[@topsecret1837]

drschplatt The issue here is that you’re all assuming that the group of people who are protesting are united. They’re not. Some are these Boogaloo bois who are precipitating the violence, then there’s actual peaceful protesting. By which I mean even if they’re not the Boogaloos, they’re still not a single faction. Some are far more violent than others. In CT we’ve had an uptick in gang related deaths for example.

[@lexwaldez]

The best part of watching Jingles videos is thinking, "Oh this will not end well..." and being pleasantly surprised once in a while.

[@BugPowderDust]

Haha, loved the ending. Not messed with Thargoids yet, going out to buy popcorn for the next episode....

[@WilliamNeacy]

the recent videos for Elite have been gold, keep them coming

[@ultimatebadass1415]

Love the series Jingles! Keep it coming! Been watching you since you called your self Bohemian Eagle here, and loved everything so, thanks for your great work ;)

[@smiths121]

If you read the mission text, there is actually a fair amount of unpleasant moral choices in ED. Doing some BGS work a couple of years ago, I dumped 88 tons of slaves and abandoned missions to generate negative influence, to avoid a civil war in a system. I was running out of time and like to think I saved more pixels than I destroyed! So well done for reading the mission text, and actually briefly (at the time) feeling uncomfortable.

[@gurra63able]

When you play actions and shooting games like Elite Jingles, then you should use the player name Captain Mainwaring, and you should always have a co-player with the name Sergeant Wilson, who constantly asks you, Do you think that's wise sir?.

[@danielf2025]

Thank you for your "if you're late to the party" explanation for those of us that started playing last week ;)

[@redv6camaro]

Doing things in games that were uncomfortable with... Cod MW2: Hold my beer and No Russian

[@Mr.P.Griffith]

Don't Ever Bow To The Mob!

[@BatteryH1862]

Unless you're playing Mafia...

[@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer]

Remember, only in this game is there a Mega Space Station named Bacon that is a popular bounty hunter destination.

[@dracoface7227]

Welp, time to get back into Elite Dangerous. I should thank you Jingles, you have reignited my love for this gem of a game. I don’t think Xbox is cross-platform with pc. But maybe we will meet someday!

[@schifferfoto8659]

That's some deep philosophical insight considering we're dealing with a space faring game. I like the freedom in Elite Dangerous to be good or bad. That's what makes it a proper 'simulator' (besides the impressive physics ofc) :)

[@JMDahl1964]

I wouldn't worry about it, someone will get pissed off at anything that has happened in the past. People are just looking to be pissed off

[@Gnosoupforu]

"How far are you willing to go even if it's just a game" Can you say GTA and other games similar to that one? I mean, I know it is hard for some people to separate fiction from reality (look at the people who think the "bad guys/gals" in their favorite movies are actually that bad in real life), but I'd like to think that most people are reasonable and can differentiate fiction from reality. But maybe that is asking too much. As you said, you have a choice not to take the mission (or trade in slaves in this game either...). Keep up the great videos Jingles. Always look forward to not only your commentary in games but your Mingle with Jingles episodes as well. O7

[@nehcrum]

Most people are capable of differentiating between fiction and reality. And then there are those that aren't taking their prescribed meds.

[@brianthomson6512]

a game is only a game, unless youre a halfwit or worse, its a game whatever you do, everyone is different and so "acceptable" is in the eye of the beholder, which is far more civilised and reasonable than many of these "peaceful" protesters rampaging lol www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/violent-video-games-and-young-people. www.kmov.com/news/second-man-charged-in-connection-with-death-of-retired-st-louis-police-captain-david-dorn/article_710c43a6-a90d-11ea-a7fb-773f3e096e33.html

[@tagginondawal3961]

I think it was one of the Command and Conquer Red Alert missions that said "No prisoners, no survivors." That's hows I roll when playing games. Also me: tries to kill the Butcher's wife and kid in Modern Warfare remake.

[@noliebowtie1315]

Jingles: *Talks about the medical system of the USA being crap while playing Red Dead 2* Jingles: *Talks about police brutality and not about violent riotors* Me: I think I see a pattern....

[@brianthomson6512]

yes, just ask David Dorn about those "peaceful" protesters.. oh you cant, they killed him. www.kmov.com/news/second-man-charged-in-connection-with-death-of-retired-st-louis-police-captain-david-dorn/article_710c43a6-a90d-11ea-a7fb-773f3e096e33.html

[@zombiTrout]

Art doesn’t inspire life, life inspires art.

[@tietosanakirja]

"Ooh, that Marco Qwent has a lot to answer for." Modular terminals, say? What aren't we talking about? :DD Perfect!

[@stevecobb6001]

It just gets better and better! can'y wait for the next installment!

[@demosearies7591]

Games are suposed to make you think.. relate... and yes, also relax and unwind..

[@Angelis99]

And for the people looking for Thargoid Sensor Fragments previously called Unknown Artifacts, There is a crash site where you can pick up like 5 to 7 at a time. Crashed Thargoid Ship can be found on HIP 17403 A 4 a at -34.98, -141.41

[@luisitobardajibenitez8013]

Jingles, the dnd part is maybe true in 5th edition. But in earlier editions humans can be any alignment you want. Same as for all the other base races. Dwarfs can be chaotic evil and elves be lawfull good. Only some races are inherently evil.

[@bogatyr2473]

That last trip to a surface settlement before they'd give you Qwent's location is just the absolute worst example of game design to do nothing but waste your time.

[@fullmetalpoitato5190]

There is one thing Marco Qwent is useful for. He's very centrally located in the middle of the bubble where many players have their home bases. Whenever you start engineering a new ship or module centrally located engineers like him at least allow you to get the experimental upgrades onto the modules you are working on. You can't remote engineer experimental upgrades so it could save you a few dozen jumps trying to upgrade a new combat build instead of flying all over the bubble and back JUST for experimentals on everything. Then you can remote engineer the rest from wherever if you have them all set up right.

[@thepredator4207]

Personally I feel you didn't need to bring any of this up. Do I care what is in this or any game, no... its a game and people need to remember that. However by pointing a spot light at this mission like you did, you are giving people something to target which before may have very well gone unseen. Does this mission bother me with whats going on in the world... no. Does your long explanation and trying to connect these 2 things that honestly had no reason being connected bother me... yes. I kept watching and supporting because I enjoy your content and lowkey, I always watch to see how you somehow manage to lose it all because it bring back my memories of being so close but then learning the hard way at the end lol.

[@archiegill7427]

Jingles me old mucker, just want to that you for introducing me to Elite, I've been playing it for hours now and I love it, so umm...Thank you for showing me the world of space sims. Have a good day.

[@amazingtaco9797]

There is a player made organisation that specialises in trading rare goods for engineers they are called "East India Company".

[@LucyKaida]

I feel lucky that i found a single cargo mission that gave me 32 modular terminals if I see what you had to go through

[@ShionWinkler]

"If I knocked out the missile turrets then no one should be firing at me, yet they are firing missiles at me. " Don't think about it too hard Jingles, this "feature" was secretly put there by Todd Howard, and it just works.

[@edmartin875]

Please don't tell me Todd Howard has his fingers in ED too.

[@Zonkotron]

My support for speaking up Jingles. Left vs. Right is a political debate that can be handled in a civilized fashion. In the 90s we were perfectly capable of it. Killing people for no good reason is not even political, really. It's a crime like any other. If the Police kills, basically, more people than it saves, it has failed at it's mission profile.

[@MyVanir]

The police never killed more than it saved though...

[@mrmeeseeks1733]

Bull, i bet u never served in a armed unit. Besides that, how does one calculate that what has prevented from happening.

[@jinzo457]

Jingles, a lot of people make this game a roleplaying game. If your commander doesn't like the idea of this, you don't have to do it. This has nothing to do with real world politics or the riots.

[@PwnzratorX7X]

It's pretty dumb to worry about this honestly, you're able to play in the wrong in the game and nobody thinks that's something worth calling out. You can play an assassin, you can play an honorable bounty hunter, you can play a fucking crooked business owner. Whatever you want. Nobody thinks that's worth calling out and it's dumb to make it sound like you're going to get hate for it.

[@Flambass]

...and Mighty Jingles was never heard from again... That ending brings Wing Commander flashbacks oh my...

[@Chris_Lohmann]

Jingles, you probably know this by now, but I thought I'd mention you don't have to destroy any Thargoid ships to get their sensor fragments. There are several Thargoid ship crash sites in various different places where sensor fragments can be found and collected. I think CMDR Exigeous has a couple tutorials about it on his channel.

[@PhilipKerry]

Torturing an enemy is one of the Death Knight missions during the initial grind before you enter into either Stormwind or Ogrimmar ......

[@elmateo77]

For those following along at home: you do NOT need to fight thargoids to get the sensors, just read fox's guide. There's a crash site on a planet where you can just go and pick them up. (HIP 17403 A 4 A at the coordinates -34.98, -141.30)

[@draconusspiritus1037]

1. Scan the ship 2. Locate and scan the data uplink 3. Scan a Turret to unlock sub-targets. Sub-target will provide a guide to the generator to be destroyed. Most mega ships have more than one turret. Disable one and the others can still shoot at you

[@josiahwiebe3142]

Keep up the great videos! Have alot of interest in the game but seems like a huge learning curve.

[@jorgeq505]

The Mighty Jingles, I've been following you since War Thunder (really miss those days) along with your narrated WoT and WoW videos. Now (I'm not a founder) you are actively playing one of my favorite games. I've been sharing on Facebook where my friends and family are enjoying your current exploits/adventures. Keep doing what you're doing, get work, well done...

[@bluewarbler9034]

I remember that one time I infested the population of several planets with mind-control (and ultimately, mind-erasure) nanomachines over the course of a game of Stellaris. I remember making the USA a literal fascist regime with ambitions of world domination in HOI4. I remember randomly slaughtering the populations of towns in Skyrim for the hell of it. None of these have any bearing on reality whatsoever. Just remember: ultimately, good or bad, our actions in games affect only pixels. You're not slaughtering protestors, you're blowing up pixels on a screen. The only way it has anything to do with it is if it encourages you, the person, not just the player, to do these things in real life by trying to hide it and portraying it as a good thing. In that game of Stellaris I knew exactly what I was doing when I selected the "Driven Assimilators" civic. The Free American Empire was explicitly labeled "fascist" and I had to fight a civil war to get it, with a casualty counter ticking up as I did. Even though I reloaded afterwards Skyrim didn't try to pretend that what I was doing was anything but evil.

[@jcorbett9620]

As luck would have it, after watching this video, I got a mission to buy some supplies, which had 8 Modular Terminals as a potential reward. Having seen what happened to TMJ last week, I made sure I took them, however I have a question. I now have 8 less cargo spaces in my ship. Is it possible to "save" these modules somewhere else other than as onboard cargo, that doesn't risk having them blown to atoms if my ship gets destroyed?

[@5chr4pn3ll]

I think it is a good thing to touch on irl in a case like this. Morality in videogames is an interesting topic, and can be a part of the role you choose to play in that game. I certainly avoid doing many things in games because it is not a line of action I want to pursue. Part of that I guess is roleplay and part of it is that I'm just not interested in it. Evil is seldom done well in games and tends to be much less rewarding, mostly because there is the misunderstanding that good/evil are things that actually exist and are not just opinions. The interesting things always happen in the grey area anyway.

[@abanichdoch8318]

When I woke up in Skyrim I instantly killed all three of them without even listening to what they had to say. Astrid was very pleased!

[@TheZombieNL]

You can level up your speech skill by talking to them first. So that is your loss. Of course i don't leave any witnesses so they all have to die.

[@Privatepain1234]

@@TheZombieNL aahh, the age old school of. "there cant be any witness if there is no one to witness." i approve.

[@tananam9782]

"Pane Pleasures group cruiser, get it?" All to close to reality. No joke: My childhood dentist was "Dr. Payne." I'm not kidding. Insult to injury: I was maybe as old as 8, I don't remember precisely, he had to reschedule my appointment because he shot himself in the foot while duck hunting. Dr. Payne was in too much pain. When I did finally see the film version of "Little Shop Of Horrors," the irony was just too much.

[@mcdura]

for better or worse it is a reflection of real life and makes the game more realistic

[@Depipro]

...in which Jingles flies from the Serious System to the Sirius System.

[@adamwright9517]

I am really unhappy about some of your pronouncements in this video. 1. "Many of the protests were met by extreme police brutality"? Have you not read how many UK police officers were injured by your so-called peaceful protesters? 2. You claim that "humans are considered one of the good races in D&D". To quote from the 5th Edition Player's Handbook, "Alignment. Humans tend toward no particular alignment. The best and the worst are found among them." I think you might be incorrect in your claim. These are really not up to your normal insightful standards. (Edited for a little politeness once I'd calmed down. If anyone saw my original rant, I apologise. I'll blame lockdown cabin fever.)

[@josephabraham4058]

I was never very comfortable running the slaves in the game.

[@diminios]

Walz base might be a planetary outpost, but it's less annoying than getting that data delivery mission to a station that's 50k Ls away from the entry star.

[@Tigerman7warfighter]

Wow I'm early. Love the videos thanks for being who you are. One of the very few creators that I try to watch every video from!

[@leeshackelford7517]

I always play Lawful Good in D&D...from the 1970s till now. And, needless to say, since no DM changed it, I never stepped out of "behavior suitable " for that classification

[@RhapsodicXStyle07]

"How far will you prepare to go to get what you want out of a game?" ... Spec ops the line

[@vectieba]

Jingles, when approaching a planetary base try and drop in at 30 degrees or more from a height about 60km's

[@Troubleshooter11]

I remember that torture quest from WoW-WotLK. My (then) GF refused to do it and asked me to do it for her. I was surprised THAT bothered her...because she spent 62 levels casting "Shadow Word: Pain" and "Holy Fire" on every motherflipping mob on Azeroth...and Outland.

[@ddpwe5269]

It looks like they fired just after you attacked, which there was still time for them to react before you destroyed the power supply. Then nothing of course, with no power hehe You do bring up a good point. How it makes you feel. I just think games going forward may not opt to put those in, unless it specifically follows the game theme. Although, passed games shouldn't be touched and I honestly don't believe future games should be restricted except to when it comes to ratings of the game. They've shown many times over the years that games doesn't equal real life and all the times they've tried would happen regardless of games. We're human, there will ALWAYS be people pushing the boundaries of EVERYTHING. It's how we progress, but it's also how we regress, fine line of what and how we test those boundaries. ahhh, the suspense! Another great video Jingles! =)

[@mknote]

Sirius A isn't a supergiant, it's a regular main sequence star like our own. Never change, Jingles, never change.

[@herbertboelk7545]

Judge Dredd: Why did you kill those inocent and non violent protesters? The Mighty Jingles: It was for educational purpose.

[@davidlabedz2046]

When reality begins to merg5with scifi, then you know our world is in deep with problems. No one should criticize or threaten you or Frontier. Stay safe and thank you!

[@willieb.1700]

"So long and thanks for all the fish" Hey you should play that game!

[@Dutch-rg7fc]

I love how the cruise ship was a Jolly Co-operator Praise the sun

[@davesmith9844]

Jingles, just use the East India Company for all the Engineer unlock requirements, including Modular Terminals - super cheap and fast.

[@FLUX.2226]

That Orca at 4:14 , "Jolly Co-operators" lmao

[@shoootme]

"How far are you ready to go even if it's just a game" I fired that WP motors at civilians, shot soldiers trying to keep a city alive, shot civilians, stole and destroyed the last water supply on the orders of the CIA damning a city or die of dehydration, got my team wiped out on a fools mission against my fellow countryman. How far will I go? I will tell you if they ever make a Spec ops the line 2.

[@davidlink3787]

I play a lot of RPGs if I am playing an evil character I play evil, say I play a Sith Lord, I play sithy. If I play a good character say a paladin or a jedi I play light side. It's a game not reality.

[@folcotook3049]

I role play my Elite: Dangerous character and there are just certain things I won't do, no matter what I need in the game. 1. Murder Innocents 2. Piracy 3. Trade Slaves.

[@bobmartin9918]

12:12 You sir, have obviously not played Rimworld or even visited the Rimworld subreddit. I'll give you an example: "Huh. This raider I captured is trash, don't wanna recruit him, and one of my colonists is missing a kidney and another is missing a lung. And I could do with some moar human leather...." This is a rather tame example.

[@AdamSmith-kq6ys]

Also "I've seen that ship before, Beluga-class liner for Paine's Pleasure Cruisers" ... _actually_ Jingles, _that_ one is an Orca. Never change, Jingles..

[@michaelfouse4102]

Hello Jingles. Thanks for reminding me how much I loved playing Elite. Had to get a HOTAS. Now I am addicted again. Cheers! RLTW/DOL

[@swanseauk]

Robigo Mines to Sothis passenger missions, just last night alone saw at least a hundred as payment for missions, no risk and you can get millions of credits too.

[@mdelagua]

It is just a game, suspend your moral judgments. I made must of my credits in this game transporting slaves.

[@nazamroth8427]

One more combat mission, one more day that he has kinetic and thermal weapons on the same fire group...

[@classicfrog80]

There is one rule to live by: Never ever apologize for what you believe is right thing to do. If you cave in, not only you end up shitting on your own dignity, but it will never be good enough anyway, to people who demanded an apology. Stand tall, or die trying.

[@jyuppiter4540]

A better rule: You're not fooling anyone with thay tough guy acting. Be a decent human being and apologize when you're proven wrong instead of insisting on your stupid error because of pride.

[@DJVC1985]

Jingles, you get loads of Modular Terminals for passenger transport, especially from ruined stations taking refugees. Got 31 for getting 30 people to safety, a 60 ly journey.