Double Genitive and Possessive Forms in English

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[@Englishwithjennifer]

You're very kind, and I appreciate your ongoing support, Hilal. Thank you for including some uses with "of" in your comment. "One of her...traits" is identifying one item within a defined group. If you wanted to focus on the idea of me owning the trait, you could alternatively say "a delightful trait of hers." It's interesting to consider then nuances. Also, "her way of teaching" is a wonderful use of the collocation "way of (doing)," which refers to the manner in which a person does something.

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[@stunninglad1]

It's a super lesson. On the subject of omitting the noun because it is understood, I would say that is a practice used in informal writing. When writing a book or an essay, I would use "one" instead: Jennifer's lesson on conditionals covered the variations in detail while Ray's one merely touched on the subject. Jack's car was new, but Tim's one was old.

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Thanks for watching. There are different structures available to us. I didn't include the patterns with demonstratives: Jennifer's lesson on conditionals covered the variations in detail while that of Ray's merely touched on the subject. This sounds a bit stilted to me, though. Maybe the structure works better when we're not referring to people: The features on KZbin are plentiful. Those on other platforms do not seem as robust. In American English, I wouldn't use "one" after a possessive name. I'd use ellipsis: Tim's was old. The double genitive has varying interpretations, by the way.

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@@Englishwithjennifer We can get round the car one: "Unlike Jack, Tim had an old car. " Jack's car is new, but the one that Tim has is bordering on the antique."

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@@Englishwithjennifer Jennifer covered conditionals in detail with a string of videos. In Ray's solitary lesson, he merely touched upon the subject.

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Greetings Jennifer I hope you are doing well. Recently US president Biden, in Poland said: “A sacred compromise that Relates to every member NATO” 🇺🇦 Why isn’t it: every member >>OF

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Yes, the phrase should have "of": a member OF (something), a part OF (something). Biden (and others) sometimes makes mistakes while speaking publicly. I've made mistakes while focusing so much on what I want to say that I don't realize I've made a mistake with how I just said it. I only catch my mistakes when I play a video back.

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[@serhiiarion]

I usually feel like I get my money's worth when I go to the earliest (morning) showing of a movie :) Plus fewer people is a nice bonus haha Thanks for the great lesson, Jennifer. The attention to details and lots of examples make your videos excellent 👍

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Thanks for watching and answering my question about the movies. You have a good point. We call that earlier show a matinée. Daytime events usually have fewer people, though depending on the movie, you might encounter more children, who could be nosier! I haven't been to the movie theater in a long time because of COVID. One day it would be nice to go back again. I like the big comfortable chairs and the surround sound system.

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@@Englishwithjennifer Oh, thank you for reminding me this word - matinée. It's so weird, not easy to remember :) And yes, at a matinée there may be some noisy kids, but it's usually not in my case, or maybe I'm just lucky haha I hope you can go to the movies soon and enjoy it to the fullest!

[@tessmudr8292]

Thank you for video! Please, explain , why the pronunciation of " goodness' " in the phrase " for goodness' sake" is [gudnes] and not [gudnesIZ] at the end , like with other possessives ending in -s?

[@Englishwithjennifer]

You're right. We don't add an extra syllable in that phrase. You can hear the same pattern in British English. www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/for-goodness-sake I think it's just such a common conversational expression, so we've made it easier to say. We don't slow it down by adding in that extra syllable for the possessive form, but it's understood.

[@tessmudr8292]

Thank you for the answer.🙏 If you please, comment on one more point: Jesus and Moses. Dictionaries say we have only one option for possessive here which is an apostrophe without -s: Jesus', Moses'. (Though native speakers mention in different publics that in everyday English Moses's and Jesus's are sometimes met). So, the pronunciation for Jesus' and Moses' is still [-siz] at the end, isn't it? Is it (['dзizesIZ] or ['dзizes])?

[@Englishwithjennifer]

In my opinion, the pronunciation doesn't change. We still add that extra syllable to those names, but it's your choice how to write it. Many style guides and writing resources emphasize choice. Just be consistent. www.dailywritingtips.com/possessive-of-proper-names-ending-in-s/

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[@mapofg6095]

Hi jennifer, instead of saying for example " two friends of jennifer's " (please correct me if I m wrong with this last one), can I also say " two of jennifer's friends"??? Are they interchangeable? Thanks in advance

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Yes, I explained that when quantity is important to note, I'd likely choose what they call a partitive construction (part of a whole): one of her friends, two of her friends, some of her friends, all of her friends. "Two friends of Jennifer's" isn't wrong, in my opinion, but it's awkward.

[@ThCandyKate]

Can I say "a friend of my father" or should I use the double possesive?

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Most would say "a friend of my father's," but you'll likely hear a mix. youglish.com/pronounce/a%20friend%20of%20my%20father%27s/english? getyarn.io/yarn-find?text=a%20friend%20of%20my%20father%27s

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Thanks a lot for your video! What about "the name of my school" and "my school's name"? Are they both correct? Thank you once again!

[@Englishwithjennifer]

We'd say "the name of my school is" or "my school is called." Thanks for watching.

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[@trendyoutfits2065]

Hello , mam thank you for this .I have a question related second last topic of your lesson. This is a drawing of Jennifer's This is a drawing of Jennifer. This a drawing of Xiaonan's. why is first sentence considered Wrong? and last one is correct? How these three sentence are different?

[@Englishwithjennifer]

It's not wrong, but it's wrong for the situation. I'm not the artist. Xiaonan is. It's a drawing of me (of Jennifer). It's one of his (of Xiaonan's) works.

[@sanakhan3131]

Hello Mam ! I have one confusion . he is friend of mine ( correct ) He is friend of me( incorrect) Does it mean we can't have objective pronoun after prepositions ? Or is it possible to use objective pronoun after preposition like of , to , at etc.

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Not to show possession or belonging: he's a friend of mine/ he's a friend of hers/ etc. But you can use other collocations with OF + (object pronoun): Teaching is a PART OF ME. / Are you SCARED OF HER? / ONE OF THEM is a scientist.

[@ayeshajaved7516]

Double genitive Of + possisve noun + pronoun You gave this example One of my grandmother's Shouldn't my grandmother's be followed by another noun? Because usually we have possessive noun like this Mariam' s neighbours My father 's friend

[@Englishwithjennifer]

We can use an ellipsis after a possessive noun. We leave the noun out and it’s understood. Example: can I use your charger? - I don’t know where mine is, but you can use John’s (charger).

[@teachermarian9563]

How is correct ? Jack' coat is on the coat rack or the Jack's coat is on the coat rack.

[@Englishwithjennifer]

The name already specifies what coat you're talking about, so you don't need "the" with "Jack's." Correct: - Jack's coat is on the rack. - The coat on the rack is Jack's.

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[@Englishwithjennifer]

Hi Rizwan. Happy to see you here. Thanks for watching my new lesson. Good night from Massachusetts, USA!

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[@kevinortiz120]

Hey Jennifer! I have a question. What is the difference between car wheel vs car's wheel? in my language they are translated in the same way.

[@Englishwithjennifer]

The meaning is the same, but "car's wheel" sounds less natural in English. We can use "car" as a noun modifier instead: car wheel, car radio, car seat, etc.

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@@Englishwithjennifer Thank you so if I say.... The book pages referring to "The pages of the book" would be correct as well as "The House roof" referring to The roof my house"

[@lucas-vq4ib]

hello, I have a question with the possessive and it is that I don't know when a "something" of the object is used the possessive or the "of", I mean for example. "the sunlight" (instead of "the light of the sun) "the dog collar" (instead of "the collar of the dog) Or "tunnel light" (instead of the light of the tunnel) I mean, what is the difference between using the "of" or putting the object or noun in front (and why doesn't it use an apostrophe 's either?) And in what cases do I have to use the "of" or the other way?

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Check out my other video on possessive nouns as well as my playlist on prepositions and collocations. Also, read some other comments. Hilal just posted a comment with a common collocation: way of, as in "her way of teaching." This doesn't have to do with possession, bur rather the manner in which something is done. Sometimes we use "of" to identify parts of a whole: the rim of the mug. Other times we use noun modifiers for that purpose: mug handle (the handle of a mug). Note how these examples use inanimate nouns, so the patterns I used are preferred to use of the apostrophe. With people, the apostrophe + s is preferred to express basic ownership: Jennifer's mug. Hope that helps.

[@lucas-vq4ib]

@@Englishwithjennifer i did not get it. I just wanna know if it is the same or if it is not, how can i know the correct form? Sorry

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Sometimes those combinations are okay. They're not exactly wrong, but they're not as natural. It's more common to say, "The sunlight was in my eyes." (Not, "The light of the sun was in my eyes.) Other times, the meaning isn't clear. 1. tunnel light - - Is that a light within the tunnel? 2. the light of the tunnel - - It's probably more common to talk about the light inside the tunnel or the light coming from the tunnel if you're still at a distance.

[@ThiagoRodrigues-il8vs]

Hi Jennifer! I enjoyed the idiom "take after". Unfortunately I took after my parents' habbit of procrastinating. But I'm not talking about homework or house cores. It's about important changes like quiting a job or breaking up a relationship. I also found challenging the use of the word WORTH "I sued the company where I used to work and I got 100,000 dollars worth in damages" Is it right? Thank you for the class.

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Hi Thiago. Glad to see you this week. When you use "take after," we usually just name the person, and then use another sentence to explain how: I take after my parents. I procrastinate just like they do. Well, you're not alone in putting off difficult decisions. You're talking about big changes, and it takes a lot of courage to disrupt your life that way. It's risky, and the future is uncertain. Many people can related to that. Yes, your example works, but note the punctuation: I sued the company where I used to work, and I got $100,000 (one hundred thousand dollars') worth in damages.

[@WoSarvatraHain]

Hello Jennifer! How will I refer to a shared thing between me and my mother in the possessive case? For example, is it OK to say, "My mother and my joint bank account" ?

[@Englishwithjennifer]

You can often find alternative wording: My mother and I have a joint bank account. If your parents have an account together: my parents' bank account/ my mother and father's bank account. If they have separate accounts: my mother's and father's bank accounts.

[@WoSarvatraHain]

@@Englishwithjennifer Thank you. So, if I have a shared thing between me and a friend, can't I ever say - "Tara and my apartment" ? Or if somebody wants to say that to me - "Your and Tara's apartment" ... Aren't these correct?

[@Englishwithjennifer]

I think we avoid awkward phrasing and use "our" if the owners are clear. Our apartment. The apartment I bought with Tara. Etc.

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[@debughosh1331]

Mam , does my friend mean the friend of me. If I write He is my friend. Does it indicate that I have only one friend and this is he. If I have more than one friend should I write He is one of my friend. Then listener will clearly understand that I have more than one friends and the person is one of them.

[@Englishwithjennifer]

a friend of mine = one of my friends Most of the time, you can simply say someone is "my friend." "A friend of mine" can sound more casual. The number of friends isn't usually an issue.

[@olgakart7024]

Hi Jennifer. Thanks for your lessons a lot! Please help me make question tags with these statements: 1. You misunderstand the rule, ...? 2. He dislikes bananas,...?

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Here's an older lesson of mine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnzJY3qZrKusrcU affirmative verb in the main clause (misunderstand) >> negative helping verb in the tag question (don't) negative verb in the main clause (don't understand) >> affirmative helping verb in the tag question (do) Both of your examples use affirmative verbs in the main clause. Just remember subject verb agreement: you - - do he - - does And remember the word order: verb + subject?

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Please explain adjective clause are relative adverbs.🙏 I am from India

[@Englishwithjennifer]

Hello. I have a playlist on adjective clauses (relative clauses). kzbin.info/aero/PLfQSN9FlyB6SVa2-sS_kYMSIldJT7qZ-Z Sometimes it's easier to call them adjective clauses with relative pronouns, but it's true that technically relative clauses use both relative pronouns (who, whom, that, which) and relative adverbs (when, where, why).

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Hello. I am not able to accept new private students at this time, but Patreon memberships are an option. The best time to sign up is the first of the month. I welcome high intermediate and advanced students for group instruction. Visit my page to learn more. www.patreon.com/englishwithjennifer Thank you for your interest!

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What does mean" the Lebedevs' dog" ?, ¿Could be the name of the dog or the name of something that belongs to the dog?

[@Englishwithjennifer]

The Lebedevs' dog = the dog that belongs to the Lebedev family The Lebedevs' home = their house The Lebedevs' = their home (as a location) COMPARE: the dog's name = its name (her name) the dog's toy = its toy (her toy)

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A friend of my father's. Double. Ellipses. Ok I know.

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I have my grandmother's hands, but my nose is just like my grandfather's.

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