EUROFIGHTER vs OTHER JETS! PERFORMANCE COMPARISON! CAN it be the KING? - War Thunder

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MatAWG

MatAWG

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@syntec9555
@syntec9555 Ай бұрын
Can't wait to play my 13.0 Su-27 against these 14.0 abominations. That's gonna be a ton of fun
@Pvt_Wade
@Pvt_Wade Ай бұрын
13.0 F-14:
@naufald.s.2368
@naufald.s.2368 Ай бұрын
born to late to feel su27 air superiority back then
@Flanker_SpankerWT
@Flanker_SpankerWT Ай бұрын
That's how I feel when I fly f4s vs su27
@ChaseCaron-f4h
@ChaseCaron-f4h Ай бұрын
Up-tiering killed the game for me, literally uninstalled it yesterday, when I was using my f4s I was playing with nothing but f4s and f14s, now that I have my f14 I haven’t seen a game without an f15e. I will say I’m not the best at the game, but it doesn’t help I NEVER play in my br, how can I get better at the game if every plane I’m playing against are considerably better then mine, I get 60 countermeasures these mf have like 400+ 😂
@СергейНикольский-я2ц
@СергейНикольский-я2ц Ай бұрын
@@ChaseCaron-f4hyeah, the only 2 ways of not getting uptiered is to play sim (but you must check current BR rotation and choose certain vehicles BR wise) or to play top tier only
@sergarlantyrell7847
@sergarlantyrell7847 Ай бұрын
"Kn" = Knots "kN" = Kilonewtons
@janchovanec8624
@janchovanec8624 Ай бұрын
Nobody outside the US uses knots, dirty feets, yerds, galons, faranhighs.
@citruss5737
@citruss5737 Ай бұрын
@@janchovanec8624not correct
@sergarlantyrell7847
@sergarlantyrell7847 Ай бұрын
@janchovanec8624 every nation uses feet for altitude and knots for maritime speed because those are international standards. It's a legacy from when most of us used the imperial system too, but it's too difficult to be worth changing now. 🤷
@toxickilljoy9037
@toxickilljoy9037 Ай бұрын
​@janchovanec8624 the only countries who use kilometers and meters for standard aviation are communist lol and they are russia, china, north Korea, and i think there's like 1 or 2 others. Every other country will have knots and feet for aircraft, even if their car speed is measured in kmH, and their height in meters.
@Akuma_Z
@Akuma_Z Ай бұрын
@@sergarlantyrell7847 i think russian military uses kmh and meters
@wag1wnkr
@wag1wnkr Ай бұрын
looking forward to flying my hmd-less 13.3 tornado against this every match.. Thanks Gaijin
@fboyg91
@fboyg91 Ай бұрын
Hopefully 13.3 and 13.0 will be mostly downtiers with everyone playing 13.7 and 14.0
@devisucarlo7922
@devisucarlo7922 Ай бұрын
Hopefully 12.7 can breath again
@fboyg91
@fboyg91 Ай бұрын
@devisucarlo7922 I’m a German main so I’ll be using 13.0 to grind the Typhoon. I’m really hoping 14.0 will drag the top 4th gens away from the transition period late 3rds and early 4ths.
@ironpizza5150
@ironpizza5150 Ай бұрын
Don't play the tornado dude. It's not worth it. Absolutely the worst jet I've ever flown
@Kanudee
@Kanudee Ай бұрын
@@ironpizza5150 you must have never played the su22
@AviTheWolf
@AviTheWolf Ай бұрын
Earliest I've ever been to a Matt AWG video
@cannolicchio
@cannolicchio Ай бұрын
Eurofighter having less thrust to weight ratio than Rafale is criminal.
@sebvv5219
@sebvv5219 Ай бұрын
Dont worry they'll fix that in 2 years when they release planes which will make the EF entirely irrelevant.
@techmaxx9274
@techmaxx9274 Ай бұрын
They probably say make Germany bad but don’t make it obvious
@Threxer
@Threxer Ай бұрын
Hoping the Gripen gets slightly un-nerfed now that it's contemporaries are in the game. Or just give us the E and I'll be happy.
@HunterZTheLunatic
@HunterZTheLunatic Ай бұрын
Mate its bin nerfed 15 times.
@HighRiskV
@HighRiskV Ай бұрын
gripen is still the best dogfighter even against both Eurofighter and rafale on the 2nd dev server
@joy_gantic
@joy_gantic Ай бұрын
​@@HighRiskVyet its fm is still arbitrarily nerfed (not as bad as MiG-29 but it's noticable) and also still doesn't have wingtip fox 3's
@RoachEatsVipers
@RoachEatsVipers Ай бұрын
​@@joy_gantic it can't carry wingtip fox 3 not even the E can
@fboyg91
@fboyg91 Ай бұрын
Last time I checked, it still stomps both the EFT and Rafale in speed retention and degrees per second. Speed retention is closer but the Gripen pulls like 5 degrees per second more than either one at any given speed under Mach.
@ionoverdrive8164
@ionoverdrive8164 Ай бұрын
the Typhoons performance was changed now, by having 90 KN on each engine and the wight has been reduced from 11.700 kg to 11.300 normally it is 11.300 but the devs ignore that weight for some reason
@iboopy.1
@iboopy.1 Ай бұрын
The rafale had the weight buff. The eurofighter is still 12.9 tonnes in game when its 10 or 11 tonnes irl
@ionoverdrive8164
@ionoverdrive8164 Ай бұрын
@iboopy-fl2ic in the forums we found out it was changed yesterday because of complains and reports
@justjake1038
@justjake1038 Ай бұрын
@iboopy-fl2ic No, it was changed almost right after the dev closed, it's now 11300kg, even though it should still go down by 300kg.
@iboopy.1
@iboopy.1 Ай бұрын
@@justjake1038 good. Rafale thrust to weight is still well overperforming
@iboopy.1
@iboopy.1 Ай бұрын
@@ionoverdrive8164 The eurofighter flight manual got leaked didnt it...
@andrew3084
@andrew3084 Ай бұрын
excited to see the rafale version
@WurstWesen82
@WurstWesen82 Ай бұрын
The alien drones from New Jersey have kidnapped Mat.
@madeingermany9445
@madeingermany9445 Ай бұрын
EF2000 should have the irl engine thrust
@russicher2089
@russicher2089 Ай бұрын
what do you mean
@Kiirxas
@Kiirxas Ай бұрын
@@russicher2089 It's meant to have 52 more KN
@russicher2089
@russicher2089 Ай бұрын
@@Kiirxas no bro no its not the ej200 stage 0's have 90kn afterburning thrust
@inspector-Noir
@inspector-Noir Ай бұрын
The Gripen's performance is ridiculously poor. It’s hard to believe it could be this bad in real life, especially since in the videos we watch on KZbin, the Gripen effortlessly climbs at a 90-degree angle.
@iboopy.1
@iboopy.1 Ай бұрын
yea its european jets that aren't allowed to perform to their true standards while american jets are overperforming
@antimatter4733
@antimatter4733 Ай бұрын
Wasn't it getting a buff in one of the dev blogs?
@fabi9553
@fabi9553 Ай бұрын
@@antimatter4733Only i know it got nerfed a few times After its Release. Don‘t know if it got a slight buff since then
@damirvakhitov9213
@damirvakhitov9213 Ай бұрын
Wait until you fly the flanker, it has a calculated oswald efficiency of 0.4 whilst IRL it has an oswald efficiency somewhere around 0.75
@mochathegrande3640
@mochathegrande3640 Ай бұрын
The F-18 engine produces about 8000 kilograms of thrust. The gripen weighs about 7600kg in this configuration. That comes out to a thrust to weight of 1.05 when at a stand still. The gripen does not have high thrust to weight in real life. What you were probably seeing were videos of the E or the F variant which have improved engines but still only manage a thrust to weight of ~1.2
@kushgod1413
@kushgod1413 Ай бұрын
I’m just glad as a German main we finally get something to compete with the f4 is fun but sheesh
@SmarterSmart9
@SmarterSmart9 Ай бұрын
F4 Aint Fun💀😭 ong bro where have you got the info from that the f4 is fun in any way, sure when its facing 12.7 only (so basically a downtier) its quite good but it usually happens once every 10 battles and all the other 9 battles you'll end up sucking
@ironpizza5150
@ironpizza5150 Ай бұрын
​@@SmarterSmart9it's actually pretty solid after the br changes. 13.0 with a fuck ton of 120s and basically 9ms is pretty good
@KSAA5
@KSAA5 Ай бұрын
25 seconds wow that’s a record
@Paganmine-WT
@Paganmine-WT Ай бұрын
?
@PyroBlonde7777
@PyroBlonde7777 Ай бұрын
Yeah and we're supposed to believe a Eurofighter is faster than an F15E on the top end. A plane that's designed to not rip at mach 2.5+ lol.
@Dark_flame_
@Dark_flame_ Ай бұрын
Us main crying because he doesn't get the best jet in game for once
@Zsleyer01
@Zsleyer01 Ай бұрын
Remember kids, the euros 0 to mach time is officially sub 30. At ila it was bout 28s not 32s
@arakami8547
@arakami8547 Ай бұрын
I've done some calculations of the Eurofighter vs F-15Es real world thrust to weight ratios... It's quite stark. Both aircraft have roughly the same endurance/range at max fuel, roughly 3900km reportedly. The inefficiency of the F-15Es engines really betrays it however, to achieve that maximum range of 3,900km she needs to load roughly 14,800kg of fuel on top of her 16,000kg empty weight - totalling 30,800kg roughly. Comparatively the Eurofighter only needs to load roughly 7400kg of fuel, plus her empty weight of 11,000kg - totalling 18,400kg. Eurofighter Typhoon has a TWR of roughly 1.67, measured when empty using afterburners. Without afterburners she has a TWR of roughly 1.11. With max fuel but without drag accounted for, her TWR with afterburners sits at roughly 1.0. Without afterburners her TWR sits at around 0.66. F-15E has a TWR of roughly 1.66, measured when empty using afterburners. Without afterburners she has a TWR of roughly 1.02. With max fuel but without drag accounted for, her TWR with afterburners sits at roughly 0.86. Without afterburners her TWR sits at around 0.53. At empty weight the Typhoon holds a slight edge, however at max fuel that difference is exacerbated. Do note that at maximum fuel, the F-15E should struggle more with drag. At max fuel the Eurofighter only needs added 3 small 1000L drop tanks, the rest of her fuel is carried internally. Comparatively the F-15E requires added 3 much larger 2000L drop tanks with greater drag, and her 2 conformal fuel tanks which though conformal - do still add drag.
@AleksBaleks12
@AleksBaleks12 Ай бұрын
Soap dispenser
@Threxer
@Threxer Ай бұрын
Fake country
@lukewhitehouse4103
@lukewhitehouse4103 Ай бұрын
Ah yes good to see Gaijin have nerfed the Typhoon cant have it perform realistically. Still missing thrust, still weight 300kg more than it should, super cruise ability limited to Mach 1.3. Im looking forward to when US mains start crying for more nerfs (cough Gripen) or the Aim120C.
@anthonyfodor6822
@anthonyfodor6822 Ай бұрын
Acceleration is cool but I’m more interested in rate airspeed or degrees per second turn. Like the viper should house a f15E in that respect.
@alanch90
@alanch90 Ай бұрын
Su-35 should improve a lot in respect to thrust to weight ratio (not sure by how much though)
@devisucarlo7922
@devisucarlo7922 Ай бұрын
Su35 has one of the highest, if not the highest, thrust to weight ratio out of all the fighter jets made both from USSR/Russia and the west.
@planetfun85
@planetfun85 Ай бұрын
​@devisucarlo7922,they will nerf it, usa mains will cry out.
@BlackWolf9988
@BlackWolf9988 Ай бұрын
​@@planetfun85 yep, can't have anything competent against the USA mains.
@gusion9367
@gusion9367 Ай бұрын
Saying this whyle befored the fox3 update the su27 dominated 😂​@@BlackWolf9988
@ollebostrom6662
@ollebostrom6662 Ай бұрын
when do you think sweden will get the gripen E
@derbe8647
@derbe8647 Ай бұрын
I would imagine its gonna come in march, but maybe only in june
@filipkatila5511
@filipkatila5511 Ай бұрын
Time to start asking for a gripen buff
@JFIESTASR
@JFIESTASR Ай бұрын
Nice video but you should have included the Rafale for comparison too
@mamilkman8614
@mamilkman8614 Ай бұрын
Bro hasn’t posted today he died for sure
@rsaaron
@rsaaron Ай бұрын
I come from DCS and never played War Thunder. What's the best way (least expensive or least grinding) to get into an aircraft that carries R27s?
@squarescope3056
@squarescope3056 Ай бұрын
Buy the mig 21 bison on sale. Although it’s from the UK tree and only gets 2 R-27Rs or R-27Ts.
@Nirqsa
@Nirqsa Ай бұрын
All these people complaining about not having anything new like be patient you will get something next update (I’m a German main)
@lowoutdoors2041
@lowoutdoors2041 Ай бұрын
Im curious on how the Gripen is gonna peform when its added, probably slightly better than the J-10 if i can remember correctly
@Thermal6
@Thermal6 Ай бұрын
gripen is in the game rn??
@xMorales_x
@xMorales_x Ай бұрын
​@Thermal6 long time ago
@kolecnik
@kolecnik Ай бұрын
@Thermal6 perhaps he meant gripen e/f
@mehmetbozkurt3274
@mehmetbozkurt3274 Ай бұрын
Gripen will never ever get close to a J10. If you mean EF, yeah, it will perform better than J10 kinematically. Though electronics wise J10C is quite close to late Tranche and Block Eurofighters. Both beat the Rafale by a good margin in that regard.
@Vince_070
@Vince_070 Ай бұрын
Put them at 14.3 so they don’t go against 13.0s
@K-SHABAB
@K-SHABAB Ай бұрын
tomorrow I will Get to Fly a J10-C First time in Front IRL🇵🇰
@Pvt_Wade
@Pvt_Wade Ай бұрын
"yesterday i will.."
@conflictclips
@conflictclips Ай бұрын
​@@Pvt_Wadei believe in his language the word for both tomorrow and yesterday is same. Just like in Hindi. So google probably messed up the translation.
@meepy2739
@meepy2739 Ай бұрын
​@@Pvt_WadeI did it tomorrow
@K-SHABAB
@K-SHABAB Ай бұрын
@@conflictclips yap i fucked up I meant to say tomorrow but said yesterday in excitement and i am nervous too and no its not Hindi(But Urdu) i am from Pakistan ( Current in Air Force Training School)🇵🇰
@hurbrowns5397
@hurbrowns5397 Ай бұрын
1)Do you get to choose which jet you fly? 2) Is J-10C the most advanced fighter jn Pakistan Air Force? Or the F-16 Block 52+?
@warthunderman2379
@warthunderman2379 Ай бұрын
WHEN IS WAR THUNDER GOING TO FIX R77 DRAG AND JUST DRAG IN GENERAL ITS BEEN IN THE FORUMS FOR MONTHS MATT PLEASE HELP
@Takemura76
@Takemura76 Ай бұрын
Is There a reason you left out the Rafale?
@devisucarlo7922
@devisucarlo7922 Ай бұрын
Because that thing stinks of french
@XeroOps
@XeroOps Ай бұрын
He made a video for that
@Takemura76
@Takemura76 Ай бұрын
@devisucarlo7922 well be it as it may, it’s a very sexy stinky plane and a major part of the patch.
@Takemura76
@Takemura76 Ай бұрын
@@XeroOps no he didn’t. There’s no other video comparing all of the measurements he took between all of these planes with the most recent dev server update. This is the first he made putting them together. I’m just wondering why he left out the Rafale.
@ay0media
@ay0media Ай бұрын
@@Takemura76 Didn't he say that he'll just include the ef for this video and maybe make seperate one for rafale? I think I heard him say that in the video.. though im not 100% sure
@Paket.M
@Paket.M Ай бұрын
Is he still alive?
@eErTiStReE
@eErTiStReE Ай бұрын
I didn’t play the update with the f15e because they still haven’t fixed top tier games but why are you testing the euro fighter against a ground strike instead of the air superiority f15c
@DerSpeggn
@DerSpeggn Ай бұрын
Because the E has much better engines and performance than the C. The comparable adf variant to the Eurofighter would be the F15 EX Eagle II.
@eErTiStReE
@eErTiStReE Ай бұрын
@ war thunder will always confuse me
@DerSpeggn
@DerSpeggn Ай бұрын
@@eErTiStReE well, the F15 EX is just now entering service, and maybe too new in most departments. On the other hand, the only plane in the world with better overall flight performance than the EF would be the F22....and we are so not ready for that one.
@eErTiStReE
@eErTiStReE Ай бұрын
@ yes but (coming from dcs player) the E is a fat ass, barely a dog fighter. Of course it’s not the same because even the C in dcs gets aim120c and I think it’s b in war thunder… it seems like war thunder just wanted to have an upgrade but didn’t do their research
@DerSpeggn
@DerSpeggn Ай бұрын
@eErTiStReE they balance by the available weapon systems. EF also only has 120Bs. No Meteor or IRIS-T missiles.
@blackout5058
@blackout5058 Ай бұрын
Can the Eurofighter still supercruise?
@TigerLoaf
@TigerLoaf Ай бұрын
Why does the typhoon weigh 12.9t? Is that it’s empty weight or fully loaded weight? Typhoons empty weight should be 10t
@FlameFxb
@FlameFxb Ай бұрын
Which line is the german eurofighter in on the techtree?
@DisappearNVP
@DisappearNVP Ай бұрын
F-4F ICE
@mojonconsal
@mojonconsal Ай бұрын
Man, once upon a time, I thought my Gripen was great. Now it's dogshit compared to the rest
@D1ProfessionalHater
@D1ProfessionalHater Ай бұрын
Have any idea when the update is coming?
@exseque21
@exseque21 Ай бұрын
Most likely next week on either Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday
@labroskie91
@labroskie91 Ай бұрын
Yea probably Thursday
@pingu1986
@pingu1986 Ай бұрын
Likely not in december, probably around new years though
@Miszorov
@Miszorov Ай бұрын
@@pingu1986 The December update has always dropped in December. It will most likely drop before Christmas and moreover, before the Winter Event starts (the vehicles are in Dev server files etc.) so no later than on the 20th.
@exseque21
@exseque21 Ай бұрын
@pingu1986 not only in the past 11 years have december updates been between the 14th and 20th but the basement guy specified it would not fall into next year.
@a_catfish5180
@a_catfish5180 Ай бұрын
I used to think the gripen E was way to good for the current state of war thunder but with the Eurofighter and rafale having MAW etc and these insane speeds it might be time for the gripen E My prediction is before the end of 2025 but who knows I’m just hopeful
@batlax18
@batlax18 Ай бұрын
Im not too informed on Euro Canards, could you explain to me some of the upgrades the Gripen E brought please?
@a_catfish5180
@a_catfish5180 Ай бұрын
@ eeeh to make a long story short the Gripen E is big with electric warfare so jamming etc but that isn’t modeled in game The big one for war thunder would be it’s got a better engine so it can super cruise and have better thrust to weight It gets more hardpoints and gets access to more (newer) missiles however they also aren’t in game same thing as with Eurofighterand rafale It gets an AESA radar, MAW, and if I remember correctly more built in countermeasures but don’t quote me on that The cockpit is also very advanced I’m obviously simplifying quite a lot here but it gets thrust to weight and top speed similar to the two planes we’re getting in game (I think it’s top speed is in the middle of EF and Rafale) combined with the incredibly low weight means it would be a very good dogfighter and not too unrealistic next to the others. Maybe the other canard bois would have to get some later variants first but the gripen E can carry any weapon the other two can
@techmaxx9274
@techmaxx9274 Ай бұрын
Overall good update but fix the flight model of the eurofighter and fix the radar it shouldn’t switch to irst automatically I can’t shoot my radar missles even in the su 27 sm
@Anthony1102www
@Anthony1102www Ай бұрын
EF is nerfed to ground compare to Rafale Damn Gaijin Dog
@marshall-yo5ho
@marshall-yo5ho Ай бұрын
Even nerfed the rafale can't even compare to the eurofighter
@IchBinAuchDabei
@IchBinAuchDabei Ай бұрын
What is about the Mirage
@Fjallkloka_Aventyr
@Fjallkloka_Aventyr Ай бұрын
what will they do about sweden? idk if meteors and IrisT will be enough to level the gripen with BR 15 stuff later on..
@Casiiiiiiii.
@Casiiiiiiii. Ай бұрын
when will release they update?
@spiritofsound8469
@spiritofsound8469 Ай бұрын
Next week. Expect Wendnesday or Thursday.
@theDarkside798
@theDarkside798 Ай бұрын
Tomorrow
@goose9941
@goose9941 Ай бұрын
Eurofighter having a lower thrust to weight than the f15 is kinda funny. delusional flight models
@KiraYoshikageBTD
@KiraYoshikageBTD Ай бұрын
whats the point of 14.0 if they will still facr 13.7
@igorborracini5722
@igorborracini5722 Ай бұрын
At least 12.7 F16A's with only IR missiles can't face them anymore ig
@bagelmaster2498
@bagelmaster2498 Ай бұрын
@@igorborracini5722that’s the point of a higher ceiling, it’s so stuff further below doesn’t suffer
@Vrooto
@Vrooto Ай бұрын
​@@igorborracini5722 I present to you, full uptier and slight downtier for eurofighter.
@redracoon1322
@redracoon1322 Ай бұрын
Nah Gaijin need to look for WoT matchmaking. At least there when you got uptier, you are not alone
@Zx17OPv57i
@Zx17OPv57i Ай бұрын
No rafale ?
@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432
@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432 Ай бұрын
The thing is, figthers like Ef2000 and rafale were disinged to beat the Soviet Su27s... that why we have Su30 and Su35 now
@tigerbesteverything
@tigerbesteverything Ай бұрын
yeah, we all remember the Egyptian training where the rafale played the prey and ended as the aggressor after completely shitting on the su35 that was supposed to chase it.
@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432
@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432 Ай бұрын
@@tigerbesteverything lol... that never happen🤣 Egyptian didnt have a chance to test the Su35 becose off sanctions by the eu & usa
@СергейНикольский-я2ц
@СергейНикольский-я2ц Ай бұрын
@@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432that guy just doesn’t know that the only 2 countries besides Russia that have Su-35’s are China and Iran.
@Miszorov
@Miszorov Ай бұрын
All Sukhois are gonna be shit, it's just a badly designed lineage of planes.
@damirvakhitov9213
@damirvakhitov9213 Ай бұрын
@@Miszorov Totally not because gaijin keeps on fudging the induced drag on soviet jets, right? It's totally not like the Su-27's and MiG-29's shat on the F-15's and F-16's during dogfights in the 2000's right?
@yuanfurbax
@yuanfurbax Ай бұрын
pls do the MIG-23ML(A/D) and Yak-141 too. bc they're the former speed kings
@tylerclark8643
@tylerclark8643 Ай бұрын
Is the update out?
@iTrxxsh
@iTrxxsh Ай бұрын
Nah not yet. Dev was opened but it closed. So the update will come out possibly next week or around the Christmas days
@derbe8647
@derbe8647 Ай бұрын
​@@iTrxxshI actually think Tuesday is most likely The December update tends to come between the 14th and 18th, and 4 days from dev server closing to update is quite common aswell
@tylerclark8643
@tylerclark8643 Ай бұрын
@@derbe8647thx man
@iTrxxsh
@iTrxxsh Ай бұрын
@ yeah I was watching another KZbinr and his predictions it Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. So that makes more sense lol🙏🙏
@PressPlay147
@PressPlay147 Ай бұрын
mirage 2000 is always forgotten 😔
@Dark_flame_
@Dark_flame_ Ай бұрын
0 to mach 1 on the Eurofighter is still wrong how did they mess that up
@DisappearNVP
@DisappearNVP Ай бұрын
update tomorrow
@jackmaylor8229
@jackmaylor8229 Ай бұрын
Pre or post nerf?
@Drowsy1106
@Drowsy1106 Ай бұрын
Is the dev back open?
@rakamakaffo
@rakamakaffo Ай бұрын
СУ 30СМ с управляемым вектором тяги- король ближнего боя. Жду, чтобы выносить эти нло
@StepanExplorer
@StepanExplorer Ай бұрын
Nice
@joshharris2793
@joshharris2793 Ай бұрын
The f15e shouldn’t be accelerating faster then the typhoon but it’s close enough I’m not to fussed
@camiloherrera9268
@camiloherrera9268 Ай бұрын
What i find funny is its mach 1 to mach 2 accel speed, better than the ef even though it's not like that irl
@sergarlantyrell7847
@sergarlantyrell7847 Ай бұрын
Irl the F-15E needs to carry so much fuel it drops the T/W to below that of the F-15C (the true top dog when it comes to T/W). Add to that, the conformal fuel tanks which can't be dropped do give it a not insignificant drag penalty.
@ziomalxxz
@ziomalxxz Ай бұрын
Where is rafale :'(
@oliverrajan2543
@oliverrajan2543 Ай бұрын
I thought dev was closed how are you playing dev
@IlyaGuschin.
@IlyaGuschin. Ай бұрын
F15C should've been included.
@sosigakaweinerman869
@sosigakaweinerman869 Ай бұрын
What is Sweden supposed to receive in order to keep up with these and other future jets?
@HunterZTheLunatic
@HunterZTheLunatic Ай бұрын
Gripen has bin nerfed 15 times. Needs to get all nerf revoked.
@LarssonNsP
@LarssonNsP Ай бұрын
Gripen E and subtree f/a18
@sosigakaweinerman869
@sosigakaweinerman869 Ай бұрын
@@LarssonNsP I guess you're right but I don't really see the Gripen E making it into the game very soon, although I hope it is
@mehmetbozkurt3274
@mehmetbozkurt3274 Ай бұрын
@@HunterZTheLunatic No, it is still overtuned. Gripen is a dogshit jet in real life, just get over it.
@youraveragehumanperson219
@youraveragehumanperson219 Ай бұрын
@@mehmetbozkurt3274 >goes vertical >loses essentially no speed "MUHH NERFED!" shit still has unrealistic FM and people are asking to un-nerf it into a UFO...lol
@vargalaszloferenc3695
@vargalaszloferenc3695 Ай бұрын
The gripen is sooo underpovered...
@Armata6348
@Armata6348 Ай бұрын
The same applies to the MiG-29, R-77, Rafale, and many others.
@andyjaramillo3604
@andyjaramillo3604 Ай бұрын
F15E is slower at top speed than the f15c because of the drag nef by like 20 miles per hour
@sadfrog5787
@sadfrog5787 Ай бұрын
you'll get there faster though
@nicos1097
@nicos1097 Ай бұрын
I had no idea the su27 was twice the weight of an f16
@sirbonobo3907
@sirbonobo3907 Ай бұрын
Looking Forward to the Grind... Not
@exjod124
@exjod124 17 күн бұрын
ye Eurofighter so fair
@planetfun85
@planetfun85 Ай бұрын
My only problem...is it realistic, or just some arcadeish interpretation to give a hype. ? Is the flanker platform that bad ? Cuz in reality...
@maxwellmaragia2272
@maxwellmaragia2272 Ай бұрын
14.0 is not enough. 14.7 would have been better
@atriplex6002
@atriplex6002 Ай бұрын
Thust doesn't mean shit only thrust to wight
@Cyber-Tux
@Cyber-Tux Ай бұрын
Please make a video about su30sm
@Cheftaingamer
@Cheftaingamer Ай бұрын
That’s not in the update
@Cyber-Tux
@Cyber-Tux Ай бұрын
​@Cheftaingamer I know, but it is likely to come in the next update
@Rek1emMScar
@Rek1emMScar Ай бұрын
This is why gaijin its R...... Su-27sm shouldn't have been add it into the game.. It didn't provide a upgrade enough to justified it.. Su-27sm3, Su-27m or even Su-30.. should has being a better choice. There are other variant too. Like Su-35 and Su-35s in the Future. How long gaijin is specting to drag the grind to something like Su-35s Now that the Eurocvck are in game how many variant can be add from western that provide a increase in performance?.. not just better missile. F-16block70¿? F-15ex?.. Eurofighter with it enhance dogfighter pack that no nation has ever put into service?.. Fantasy Eurofighter with Thrust vectoring? Well at least it the Future USA has the F-22 to dream about.. F35 its shit but a lot of nations use it. But how other nations will cope when they suffer worst than Germany that has nothing do be add. While Russian still introducing Su-X...variant.
@iboopy.1
@iboopy.1 Ай бұрын
Buff gripen and add it to 14.0. Fix eurofighter weight and rafale thrust to weight. J10B and J11B should be china's entry to 14.0. Su-30 for Russia. Now every nation has a 14.0
@tigerbesteverything
@tigerbesteverything Ай бұрын
give the viper zero to japan too, it's their entry to 14.0.
@iboopy.1
@iboopy.1 Ай бұрын
@@tigerbesteverything Yea I 100% agree. Devs just dont want to because of its radar
@parapat9957
@parapat9957 Ай бұрын
the Rafale T to W is at a good level right now, it's the EF one that is heavily nerfed, probably the other 14.0 will be seen next majour update in my opinion, su30 was already found in files
@derbe8647
@derbe8647 Ай бұрын
And for the love of god fix the efs engines. They miss at least 1 ton of thrust, realistically 2
@2.Cuzzzz
@2.Cuzzzz Ай бұрын
Justice for the gripen! Over nerfed
@BOEING--mh6xm
@BOEING--mh6xm Ай бұрын
For real, I hope the Gripen D or the Gripen E come this update or the next, it’s supposed to have a 2-1 power to weight ratio but it doesn’t for some reason
@Fjallkloka_Aventyr
@Fjallkloka_Aventyr Ай бұрын
@@BOEING--mh6xm Gripen E aint even finished yet lmao and it has so much more advanced avionics than anything else even stuff like the F22 or super hornet lmao.
@BOEING--mh6xm
@BOEING--mh6xm Ай бұрын
@@Fjallkloka_Aventyr how about the Gripen D? Or maybe some other variant
@Fjallkloka_Aventyr
@Fjallkloka_Aventyr Ай бұрын
@@BOEING--mh6xm Gripen D is just C with worse performance because 2 seats and more weight.
@2.Cuzzzz
@2.Cuzzzz Ай бұрын
In my opinion the gripen C got added way too early! Just imagine if it got added now, together with the EF and rafale
@THEDRILL_real
@THEDRILL_real Ай бұрын
yippe
@StepanExplorer
@StepanExplorer Ай бұрын
1 min
@yuluoxianjun
@yuluoxianjun Ай бұрын
sad to J-10A,gaijin totally mess it,gaijin nerfed J-10a speed up ability too much,its speeding up needs 10time longer time to reach mach1.5 from mach1.0 compared with F16C.Imagine a modern jet even cant reach its limit speed ,that is unhiden bias nerfs just because its Chinese jets.And now J-10A have a very bad bug,if you do any 2 line mobolity,your wing will 100% broken with no doubt,this bug only exist since last little update days ago...sad
@_Mokkas_
@_Mokkas_ Ай бұрын
Please take a bit time for yourself. Go to gym or do something healthy you doing tooo much
@XeroOps
@XeroOps Ай бұрын
He went from 5k when i started watching him to 40k in like 3ish months he should keep going
@BlackWolf9988
@BlackWolf9988 Ай бұрын
​@@XeroOps exactly. He gets a ton of money.
@XeroOps
@XeroOps Ай бұрын
@ Probably not a ton but probably enough to pay rent n shit
@alaricpumani5372
@alaricpumani5372 Ай бұрын
If you guys want to see a real comparison go watch SPARTANCORE, he do real performance test, like turn rate number, thrust number, Aoa number.😂 Because that's.... everyone can do it
@Armata6348
@Armata6348 Ай бұрын
That comment is nonsense for so many reasons. For example, not everyone speaks French.
@DJRaffa1000
@DJRaffa1000 Ай бұрын
f-15E Thrust is way way too high, those engines should only produce AT MAX 260kN if the upgraded engines are used. Eurofighter should also be at 180kN, but the gap should not be as large percentage wise.
@spiritofsound8469
@spiritofsound8469 Ай бұрын
Gaijin needs to either nerf the Eurofighters more or move the F-15E down by a full br. I didn't grind the US air tree, just to die to those every damn match. Even the F-16 can't do sh*t against those.
@britishbred52
@britishbred52 Ай бұрын
are you saying f15e should be 12.7? quit crying america main
@patriotic-panda
@patriotic-panda Ай бұрын
Do you hear yourself
@monke0603
@monke0603 Ай бұрын
I am a USA main and in the video the F-15E literally beaten the EF in almost every single test, It's still the best plane in the entire game and it's better in BVR than the Eurofighter, it only loses in dogfights but it was the same situation before to other light fighters, so please quit whining and you give us USA mains a bad rap.
@geerdi5222
@geerdi5222 Ай бұрын
you know that the Eurofighters are better then the F15 und F16 irl right? Atleast in terms of dogfighting and air interception, what the air rb mode basically is. The F15 therefore is way better in A/G and longtime air to air engagements because it can carry more payload and can longer stay in the air. In Air Interception there are very few jets that can compete with the eurofighter
@fboyg91
@fboyg91 Ай бұрын
Complaining that a strike aircraft isn’t beating air superiority fighters lmao typical US main
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