Every Time Vince McMahon Screwed Over The UFC

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@JimboForster1123
@JimboForster1123 10 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention how Shane McMahon tried to convince his dad to buy the UFC when it first started lol
@KarlBainbridge
@KarlBainbridge 10 ай бұрын
It was in 2000 actually. Seven years after the first UFC event.
@gregorsamsa2271
@gregorsamsa2271 10 ай бұрын
Shane was actually very much ahead of his time. Had also so many good ideas and visions for the company back then (like about ecw). But also made his mistakes too.
@TheWashout13
@TheWashout13 10 ай бұрын
​@@gregorsamsa2271 Unlike the majority, I was one of the few who loved Shane's "Raw Underground" segment. He has always been the one I hoped would take over some part of WWE even if his idea to win the royal rumble a few years ago was a schizophrenic idea.
@gregorsamsa2271
@gregorsamsa2271 10 ай бұрын
@hout13 Yep, that one truly broke his neck. I just wonder what he was actually thinking there? I'm wondered if he'll make ever a comeback. But it will be tough, since the WWE is not in the hands of the McMahon's anymore. For the first time.
@danielhall-wl4ql
@danielhall-wl4ql 10 ай бұрын
almost positive WWE owns the UFC now
@Rob_Kankerboef
@Rob_Kankerboef 10 ай бұрын
McMahon apparently has a habit of shitting on things for no reason
@RS-xq6je
@RS-xq6je 10 ай бұрын
F*cking hell 😂😂
@Heyitsallgoodman
@Heyitsallgoodman 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@cristo6007
@cristo6007 10 ай бұрын
🤢
@noodle_tax
@noodle_tax 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@lindberg3275
@lindberg3275 10 ай бұрын
There it is
@absorbed_3969
@absorbed_3969 10 ай бұрын
Im convinced Vince and Dana are just long lost brothers
@gagagugu1018
@gagagugu1018 10 ай бұрын
Wdfdym? Dana is so so vanilla compared to vince
@waynejohnson1786
@waynejohnson1786 10 ай бұрын
@@gagagugu1018 Is he though? I wouldn’t be surprised if Dana has had people killed 😂
@heavyartillery-qm5hu
@heavyartillery-qm5hu 10 ай бұрын
@@gagagugu1018 That's character Vince. IRL Dana is a better businessman. The UFC is bigger than WWE.
@gagagugu1018
@gagagugu1018 10 ай бұрын
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu ofc i know that dude. That's why they aren't brothers. They are very different. Dana is a good man and vince is not. Like the dark counterpart of dana
@MorbidFayde
@MorbidFayde 10 ай бұрын
​​@@heavyartillery-qm5huVince is absolutely the better businessman, don't kid yourself. Under his dad, the WWWF was the THIRD biggest wrestling brand in the US. Vince Jr stole the biggest wrestling star in the world at the time in Hulk Hogan, bought out all the other territories and made the first and only ever wrestling monopoly, which lasted for over 3 decades, and at its peak, WWF was about the hottest thing ON THE PLANET. He's an irredeemable scumbag of a human being but he was a phenomenal businessman
@TheDLVProject
@TheDLVProject 10 ай бұрын
Sucks for Mike UFC screwed him despite his loyalty
@hulkman245
@hulkman245 10 ай бұрын
When he left I started to notice that he wasn't really a good commentator. But you're right, the way UFC did this man was dirty. Not even a single acknowledgement about him leaving during his last UFC broadcast
@gmartines8511
@gmartines8511 10 ай бұрын
also jim Ross who Vince screwed
@williammoore1980
@williammoore1980 10 ай бұрын
They should have fired him much much earlier. He was a bumbling idiot who had no idea what he was talking about. All he had was a few stupid catchphrases. He should be glad he pulled off the gimmick as long as he did.
@LongDongJohnson0705
@LongDongJohnson0705 10 ай бұрын
I feel like that kinda who Dana is as a person...very little loyalty
@Mixed-Media-Arts
@Mixed-Media-Arts 10 ай бұрын
​@@LongDongJohnson0705 Dana has a ton of loyalty which is how he keeps high profile figures around him.
@akinsuyiboluwatife4599
@akinsuyiboluwatife4599 10 ай бұрын
It's 2024 and we have Michael Chandler begging for a fight against McGregor on a wwe program 😭😭 😂
@aesop2733
@aesop2733 10 ай бұрын
Probably got offered a bag if he could make McNuggets show
@IamTheSunBear10
@IamTheSunBear10 10 ай бұрын
It’s gonna happen at WM
@Alactic
@Alactic 10 ай бұрын
how@jabrone.destoroyah
@hsthatzo8063
@hsthatzo8063 10 ай бұрын
@jabrone.destoroyahWhy? Does everything have to be cynical boring edge material for you
@Julian-666
@Julian-666 10 ай бұрын
@@hsthatzo8063It wasn't even good. If Chandler actually gave a good speech, the crowd would have reacted differently
@hakr4751
@hakr4751 10 ай бұрын
The way the ufc treated goldberg is disgraceful, especially hearing now what he did The ufc really screwed up so many of their loyal employees
@TVee-nu2gb
@TVee-nu2gb 10 ай бұрын
Imagine if he was black, the outrage would be insane ... Don't get mad..just think about it ...
@bipolarkeyboard
@bipolarkeyboard 10 ай бұрын
Why did he even get kicked out? I really doubt it was over some damn Twitter comments.
@hanzo7616
@hanzo7616 10 ай бұрын
​@@bipolarkeyboardTold Ariel Helwani about Brock Lesnar's UFC 200 comeback
@fnfn9229
@fnfn9229 10 ай бұрын
Dang. Was this ever really confirmed though? That would throw all he had done out the window ​@hanzo7616
@icydaddy
@icydaddy 9 ай бұрын
@@hanzo7616 well knowing that especially after watching this video about Dana vs Vince, yeah I can see how Dana would hate him for that.
@cristo6007
@cristo6007 10 ай бұрын
Just imagine Dana laying on the ground beat the f up saying "Vince this wasn't in the script".😂
@NazriB
@NazriB 10 ай бұрын
Lies again? Secret Admirer USD SGD
@viperfanaccount688
@viperfanaccount688 10 ай бұрын
I think you mean the other way around
@ryanbutler8333
@ryanbutler8333 10 ай бұрын
Vince would be the one down on the ground
@SpaceGhost92
@SpaceGhost92 7 ай бұрын
@@ryanbutler8333have you seen Vince? Even at 60 or 70 he’d mop the floor with Dana. But it would never happen since Dana only fights his wife
@SpaceGhost92
@SpaceGhost92 7 ай бұрын
@@viperfanaccount688you know ufc is fake right?
@thenamelessdemigod
@thenamelessdemigod 10 ай бұрын
Can’t believe when I was young I would watch both not knowing the beef they had between each other and now as an adult seeing them together is a little weird
@abemartinez9623
@abemartinez9623 10 ай бұрын
It’s definitely weird seeing them cooperate
@num1Jaysta
@num1Jaysta 10 ай бұрын
Same
@mikeansley5306
@mikeansley5306 10 ай бұрын
McCain thinks the UFC is too violent but sings "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" to a Beach Boys melody?!
@TPkills
@TPkills 10 ай бұрын
Meh that had it coming 🤷
@louisvelazquez29
@louisvelazquez29 10 ай бұрын
McCain was married to the heir of Ann Heiser Busch which did a lot of promo on boxing and he didn't wanna pass legislation that might get in the way of that Busch money. That's how I understood it 🤷🏻‍♂️
@carloscjr23
@carloscjr23 10 ай бұрын
Was gonna write exactly that He was a warmonger, he didnt hated violence, but the ufc was in the way of their family stock in bud wiesser 😂😂😂​@@louisvelazquez29
@cac9926
@cac9926 10 ай бұрын
McCain is a warmonger the fact he was bashing the ufc for being violent was just virtue signaling.
@tdb4763
@tdb4763 10 ай бұрын
​@@louisvelazquez29that's a much much more likely explanation. Politics
@shamrock6008
@shamrock6008 10 ай бұрын
Anyone find it funny when they said steal a ufc champ, only to see chaels face pop up 😂
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Haha yeah, Vince's plan was completely contingent on him winning the second fight with Anderson and becoming champ.
@The_Bigot
@The_Bigot 10 ай бұрын
Sonnen would’ve fit right in at wwe. Very entertaining guy and for the most part he doesn’t say curse words or anything. He’s just naturally funny. I think they should still offer him a contract even if it’s as a preshow guy or Commentator.
@shamrock6008
@shamrock6008 10 ай бұрын
@@The_Bigot he's Kurt angle with hair, so yea I agree lol.
@woodnbikes
@woodnbikes 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Chael never did it.....He would have been perfect. Pretty much missed his window now, He's happy doing what he's doing anyway
@desyncer
@desyncer 10 ай бұрын
"You have two nearly naked hot men" I forgot this clip existed. Thanks for reminding me.
@howamidriving27
@howamidriving27 10 ай бұрын
That guy representing the 69th district is just something else
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Crazy we are already approaching 10 years on that happening.
@stefanwolf8558
@stefanwolf8558 10 ай бұрын
@@howamidriving27you can't make that shit up 😂😂
@MrRagePIG
@MrRagePIG 10 ай бұрын
vince a bigger freak then dana ill say that smh
@Spthomas47
@Spthomas47 8 ай бұрын
So far..?
@AwesomeBosses100
@AwesomeBosses100 10 ай бұрын
The ufc has the wackiest history and lore thank you mma on point for all of the quality research and videos you produce!
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, dude! Sincerely appreciate you taking the time to say that. Had a blast putting it together! 👊
@BranDamBlagg
@BranDamBlagg 10 ай бұрын
Ken Shamrock's early involvement in the WWE was the catalyst for my interest in the UFC and mma in general. 😅 thanks Vince
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Me too, dude. 100%. I remember hearing about his brother Frank back then and it blowing my mind Frank was considered better (beating Tito and all.)
@pewpewbbqs
@pewpewbbqs 10 ай бұрын
@@MMAOnPoint I remember watching the original UFC on the "black box" and then seeing Ken show up in the WWF and I was like "I KNOW THAT GUY!!!"
@BranDamBlagg
@BranDamBlagg 10 ай бұрын
@MMAOnPoint haha did you just see Rey Mysterio Jr on the Mexico Fight Night?
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Yes haha! That was really cool to see!@@BranDamBlagg
@ryanbutler8333
@ryanbutler8333 10 ай бұрын
Plus Dan "The Beast" Severn
@williammoore1980
@williammoore1980 10 ай бұрын
One of your most unique ones yet gents. Well done.
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, William! Really fascinating topic from my own perspective. Great to hear others feel the same!
@no_nameyouknow
@no_nameyouknow 10 ай бұрын
Vince seemed old when I was a child, I'm old now, I don't know what Vince is. Edit. To be fair, he was right to see the UFC as a threat. I don't follow WWE anymore haven't for 20 + years, maybe it's bigger than ever (plenty of things grow over time) but I am guessing there are a lot of people who stopped watching WWE once the UFC became more prominent. Just my opinion though. I haven't seen any data or anything.
@carlos4th
@carlos4th 10 ай бұрын
He is a fossil
@WorldCupWillie
@WorldCupWillie 10 ай бұрын
It was weird period when it was still called "no holds barred" where lots of publications would have a journalist that covered mma and pro wrestling.
@samuelstevens1129
@samuelstevens1129 10 ай бұрын
That happened to me. I used to watch WWE as a kid and had toy wrestlers. But then in highschool I got interested in MMA with Conor and Aldo
@foosdontcry
@foosdontcry 10 ай бұрын
WWE has been an up n down rollercoaster (been a fan since 2007), I got into UFC in 2016 and 2017 I stopped watching WWE full time and became a more casual fan of the product, 2018 I somewhat got back into WWE and was watching UFC a lot as well, 2019 WWE became very unwatchable again and UFC was still getting better, 2019-mid 2022 WWE been sooo damn unwatchable I just only watch the Royal Rumbles and get lost cuz I don't recognize most of the participants, while 2020-2022 I hit my peak fandom for UFC even went to a PPV in Vegas in '22, but in mid 2022 Vince stepped down and WWE became watchable again I even went to WrestleMania last year... WWE has really got a Renaissance now it's been really good, now my fandom for UFC feels kinda like a casual's but I still enjoy it, in the end of the day I'm a fan of both it's just WWE gets more downs than UFC does
@MohamadMahmoud-vp6yf
@MohamadMahmoud-vp6yf 10 ай бұрын
WWE is bigger then it ever was yes
@AnshulJublisGasStation
@AnshulJublisGasStation 10 ай бұрын
You forgot the time where Vince tanked TKO stock for being exposed as a... you know what
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
What do you mean? 😆
@Macephtopheles
@Macephtopheles 10 ай бұрын
@@MMAOnPoint If not a cupid stunt then certainly a pucking fervert, I'd imagine...
@lynch42o
@lynch42o 9 ай бұрын
@jabrone.destoroyah well, there's a lot of money on the line for a lot of parties involved in something like that. State, County, lawyers, hell you name it... As the saying goes, the show must go on. For instance, The isle of man Road race has multiple people die every year there. But the races just keep going.
@Mixed-Media-Arts
@Mixed-Media-Arts 10 ай бұрын
I wish you'd have shown footage of Dana and Vince together, smiling after the Endeavor merger! GREAT video.
@RizzyPanda6
@RizzyPanda6 10 ай бұрын
This was very informative and deeply investigative, would love one of these to find out what actually happened to goldy🔥
@Handle4139
@Handle4139 10 ай бұрын
More of these episodes or series about ufc history should be done!
@nicolasstarheart2903
@nicolasstarheart2903 10 ай бұрын
Two things: 1.) I don’t consider MMA and Pro Wrestling to be two separate things so much as I do them being fraternal twins. One of those twins went into theater, the other one was the Uber competitive jock, but they’re both badasses. This very channel has actually done deep-dives that showcase how both industries share the same DNA. 2.) Vince McMahon is fucking insane.
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 10 ай бұрын
It's weird to me that Vince considered the UFC a threat because I've long enjoyed both. If I want to see real "pro wrestling" I watch the UFC. The WWE's product is built more on storytelling in and out of the ring so even if it's "fake" it can still more than hold my attention.
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
I agree on their lineage, but I feel like as kayfabe has gone away and the embracing of the 'sports entertainment' slogan has come around in the several decades since, those old shoot days are almost entirely gone and it's pretty solidified. The entertainment facet is much more defined in WWE, UFC is less bloodsport and now actual sport. Feels like two totally separate lanes. But that's me speaking from my perspective as someone who really enjoys the nostalgia of the Attitude era and feeling like the modern stuff pretty distinctly isn't for me. (Nothing against WWE, I don't enjoy action movies much either) I know a lot of older fans feel the same way.
@brandonselitetv1436
@brandonselitetv1436 10 ай бұрын
I would agree with the first point if you're talking about Japanese MMA and Pro Wrestling(a whole) being one linage since Lot of Famous MMA legends has came out of the Wrestling dojos more specifically NJPW Dojo
@exeortegarubio
@exeortegarubio 10 ай бұрын
MMA as we know it wouldn't be possible if not for the original Tiger Mask and the creation of Shooto.
@exeortegarubio
@exeortegarubio 10 ай бұрын
​@@brandonselitetv1436Masakatsu Funaki and Minoru Suzuki.
@babiree3842
@babiree3842 10 ай бұрын
Cant believe your son in law took everything he ever worked hard for,damn😂😂
@kennyyuen1600
@kennyyuen1600 10 ай бұрын
Fking awesome video, love these stories that give you a deeper understanding of UFC/MMA and it's history
@anonluxor470
@anonluxor470 10 ай бұрын
Vince McMahon and Dana White has probably the biggest beef between two companies
@noodle_tax
@noodle_tax 10 ай бұрын
Definitely not though
@NRC613
@NRC613 10 ай бұрын
​Yeah he should hear or look up the nestle and pepsi water beef and baby formula that got 1.5 million infants dying ​@@noodle_tax
@Heyitsallgoodman
@Heyitsallgoodman 10 ай бұрын
Ever heard of F1?
@inoscopedbarney
@inoscopedbarney 10 ай бұрын
Lol not even close
@MorbidFayde
@MorbidFayde 10 ай бұрын
Pepsi and Coke? Adidas and Puma? GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK?
@es_three232
@es_three232 6 ай бұрын
Im not like gonna lie. As a lifelong wrestling fan hearing Vince McMahon challenged Dana White to a fight its like "Well yeah Thats Vince McMahon for ya" but hearing how people outside of the wrestling bubble consider that batshit insane is hilarious.
@Fekzuru
@Fekzuru 10 ай бұрын
MMA on point back with a banger everyday 👍
@jauken83
@jauken83 10 ай бұрын
"That's not my dad, it's a cell phone!"
@Mayydayy86
@Mayydayy86 10 ай бұрын
I THREW IT ON THE GROOOOOUUUUUND
@artiefufkin88
@artiefufkin88 10 ай бұрын
It's 2024, and I'm still not over the UFC essentially firing Mike Goldberg. When he left, it was like an old friend died. I very much still feel that way. I miss him big time
@TVee-nu2gb
@TVee-nu2gb 10 ай бұрын
Imagine if Goldberg was a minority, imagine the backlash? But yeah ...white privilege
@IFAMILYIH
@IFAMILYIH 10 ай бұрын
THESE TWO COMPANIES WANT TO PAY AS LOW AS POSSIBLE STILL HAVING PEOPLE SIGN AS INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. THESE COMPANIES SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED
@cac9926
@cac9926 10 ай бұрын
UFC is fine. WWE is not
@94462
@94462 10 ай бұрын
When a savage like Dana White seems a bit terrified of Vince McMahon is then you know your dealing with a COMPLETE MONSTER 👿
@SphericaI
@SphericaI 10 ай бұрын
Vince was already a billionaire. Dana might have been worth a couple of million and his business was bleeding money. Of course he was gonna walk on eggshells, he didn’t have the resources to back him up.
@bipolarkeyboard
@bipolarkeyboard 10 ай бұрын
Lmao espically White refering to him as a competitive maniac 💀
@Volatile-Tortoise
@Volatile-Tortoise 10 ай бұрын
I have no idea why Dana didn’t agree to that fight. Vince would have had no chance.
@lifeisabadjoke5750
@lifeisabadjoke5750 10 ай бұрын
Now Dana is the king now that’s life just wait patiently for your moves to play out.
@DaVz418
@DaVz418 10 ай бұрын
@@Volatile-Tortoise Probably because Vince would not want to get in USADA testing pool :P
@jordant.teeterson3100
@jordant.teeterson3100 10 ай бұрын
Tommy Lee Jones needs to play Vince McMahon in the documentary.
@coolbreeze3793
@coolbreeze3793 10 ай бұрын
You want to see Tommy Lee jones shit on people?
@GerardMarquise
@GerardMarquise 10 ай бұрын
Nah Greatest Showman 2 WWE Boogaloo
@da_1nvad3r67
@da_1nvad3r67 10 ай бұрын
Is that suppose to be a joke ? That man is losing his memory smh
@jovilla2161
@jovilla2161 10 ай бұрын
@@da_1nvad3r67who is?
@evanw10
@evanw10 10 ай бұрын
Play him in a documentary? I assume you mean a biopic?
@gondolin999
@gondolin999 10 ай бұрын
i love how dana never seems actually at odds with vince.. just one way crazy traffic for years lol
@alfonsohr02
@alfonsohr02 10 ай бұрын
I just hope this sort of shenanigans surround the UFC and MMA overall forever. This is what makes the sport different from any other
@DimebagVision
@DimebagVision 10 ай бұрын
Not without Vince.
@logician9116
@logician9116 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate you leaving extra room at the end of the video so annoying shit doesn't flood the screen during the video
@nc3136
@nc3136 10 ай бұрын
Power slap is Dana’s xfl
@MichaelSpikes-pv6kl
@MichaelSpikes-pv6kl 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video review
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, Michael! Super appreciate it!
@TheOmegaRiddler
@TheOmegaRiddler 10 ай бұрын
Here's the thing, Vince McMahon got the success he got by taking out his competition. When he took over the WWF, he went over the territories one by one. He didn't put them out of business, he bought them. He did the same thing with WWE. Then with the WWE Network, he went after the libraries of other promotions. He even partnered with certain indie promotions. If Vince McMahon sees you as competition, he will try to hurt you until he owns you or out of business.
@buddybrick
@buddybrick 6 ай бұрын
But now if he mess up with ufc. One chsnpioship will take over. And good luck buying that
@sangun123
@sangun123 4 ай бұрын
it was a more ruthless time hoenstly, with the smaller wrestling promotions not really ever even having a chance, like the wwe never really had a ONE promotion type situation, a true competitor, just little guys to step on
@Necron00b
@Necron00b 10 ай бұрын
@17:37 - Wow...that quote and look on Vince's face should be played at his trial. haha
@SuperObvious
@SuperObvious Ай бұрын
13:47 Undertaker looked and sounded serious calling out Brock. Thats crazyyy 😱
@mushchampion
@mushchampion 10 ай бұрын
There is something you missed, but also kind of referenced. There's a Paul Heyman / Ariel Helwani interview from 10-15 years ago where Paul claims that he warned Vince about letting the UFC follow RAW on Spike. Vince had the ability when RAW was on Spike to approve of or veto any programming that lead-in to or followed Monday Night RAW. Heyman claims he warned Vince about the UFC potentially stealing the audience, because "that's more interesting".
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I didn't really touch on Paul Heyman's perspective and definitely could have. Of course, did mention Vince had the ability to shoot them down on Spike during the NBC section. Interesting how Heyman's perspective switched much sooner than Vince towards seeing them as a parallel instead of a threat.
@Jeremuh
@Jeremuh 7 ай бұрын
Chael Sonnen would’ve been elite in the WWE
@GRestores
@GRestores 10 ай бұрын
That beat at the end is 🔥
@metuselahjones6905
@metuselahjones6905 6 ай бұрын
Vince w a pencil mustache is the ultimate in sleaze-bag lookery
@griffinkelly8694
@griffinkelly8694 10 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone is a big Mickey Gall fan, but CM Punk not shaking his hand at the weigh-in was the lamest tough-guy shit ever.
@hakr4751
@hakr4751 10 ай бұрын
Makes mickey kicking his ass so badly in the octagon so much sweeter
@amarqzm5082
@amarqzm5082 6 ай бұрын
Yall know it’s fake right ufc is like wwe in that sense
@Sterling-xk1xy
@Sterling-xk1xy 10 ай бұрын
Great work fellas
@sanzmarc07
@sanzmarc07 10 ай бұрын
Should be called times vince McMahon pooped on the ufc... 😂
@NotUrDJ
@NotUrDJ 10 ай бұрын
Such a cool video. Loved how in depth you went. Proper journalism and journalistic integrity.
@pewpewbbqs
@pewpewbbqs 10 ай бұрын
As usual, another great MMA On Point video.
@williammoore1980
@williammoore1980 10 ай бұрын
Vince is what you get when you give a carney a fortune, the competitiveness of Michael Jordan, the pettiness of every 16 year old who didn’t get a car on their birthday, and infuse them with steroids.
@kingcrazycyborg
@kingcrazycyborg 10 ай бұрын
I can see why vince would see ufc as competition, the two are like distant cousins and share a ton of lineage together, UFC fans still have a lot of resentment for WWE bc the two get confused by some still, but really the two are way more similar than they are different and as weird as a move for endeavor to have bought and merged both might seem to some, it actually makes complete sense as someone who is a devout follower of both
@johnthomson4128
@johnthomson4128 10 ай бұрын
Vince McMahon really needs to be studied in a legitimate, unbiased business school. The man will go down as the greatest promotor of all time.
@Crayfish3D
@Crayfish3D 10 ай бұрын
Regarding letting UFC on Spike, contrary to what was said at the start of the video, Paul Heyman said that early on Vince thought they were two different audiences and that Heyman was the one who saw it as a threat and advised McMahon not to let UFC on but he got overruled, with Vince have a change of heart later as it started to get traction.
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 10 ай бұрын
It'd weird because I think there is at least some overlap in the audiences but watching one has never made me dislike the other. MMA is basically pro wrestling if the in-ring action was "real" but actual pro wrestling is more about the story (in ring and out) than the "fight" itself.
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Vince is also known for the statement "everything is competition". I think I lean towards the idea that the sport was on its deathbed when the UFC signed with Spike. Vince just thought it would fail. So he started to see it as competition once it found success.
@brandonselitetv1436
@brandonselitetv1436 10 ай бұрын
​@@MMAOnPoint i dont think the sport was on its deathbed since PrideFC was on Top and that was more in line with Vince is trying to put: A Spectacle
@billshogun7068
@billshogun7068 10 ай бұрын
I always thought it was funny that with Brawl for All, the WWE tried to script it so they could get the guy they wanted to win to win.For instance,Steve Blackman had legit martial arts skills and was easily the best kicker of the bunch.He said before his fight that a WWF official came to him in the dressing room and told him that no kicks were allowed.Many of the wrestlers did not know all the rules and the WWF would change them week to week.The whole thing was a disaster right up to Bart Gunn getting KTFO by Butterbean at Wrestlemania!
@joeabernathy5402
@joeabernathy5402 10 ай бұрын
Seems likel Vinces fears were mildly justified. I was a kid raised on wrestling, but as I got older, I wanted more of a sports driven product. Why watch the ballerinas dance when I can watch athletes actually compete? Seems like no brainer and I got into more mma programming with the TUF boom and Pride.
@loismylane
@loismylane 10 ай бұрын
I like the TKO merger. It would be great to see old veteran UFC fighters get opportunities within the WWE, giving them incentive to retire from fighting early vs sticking around too long and getting KO'd 6 times in a row
@CornerStoreDrums
@CornerStoreDrums 10 ай бұрын
MMA On Point = 💯
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating video, and really just a sign that Vince has ALWAYS been like this. From destroying the territories in the 1980s, the Monday Night Wars and beating WCW in the 1990s, this BS with UFC and taking shots at TNA in the 2000s/2010s, his obsession with inter-show rivalries with the Brand Split/trying to make RAW and Smackdown out to be rival promotions even though they're both WWE shows, blowing up the super popular NXT show just to try and compete with AEW when they sprung up...the list goes on, and on, and on. And this is BEFORE mentioning him trying to compete outside of pro wrestling altogether - remember how the XFL was going to stick it to the NFL? How the WBF was going to revolutionise bodybuilding? 'Competitive maniac' is definitely one accurate way to describe VKM.
@rachorachev8905
@rachorachev8905 7 ай бұрын
Hey - Who sh*t on my head? IT WAS ME AUSTIN !!! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG !!!!
@Wonderlaust
@Wonderlaust 10 ай бұрын
Vince will go down as a crackhead Dana will go down as one of the greatest businessmen of the 21st century
@AstroTrain100
@AstroTrain100 10 ай бұрын
Dana White is one of the most vindictive people alive, wouldn't be surprised that all the trouble Vince McMann is in now didn't have something to do with Dana White.
@sixthrees333333
@sixthrees333333 10 ай бұрын
Taking a dump on the girls face is crazy 😂
@slaktheking69
@slaktheking69 10 ай бұрын
I’ve always hated Vince and now my whole hate is justifiable with all the worms spilling out of the barrel
@DimebagVision
@DimebagVision 10 ай бұрын
Aww, simp
@matthewharris5660
@matthewharris5660 6 ай бұрын
At the beginning Vince looks like he should be demanding pictures of Spider-Man be brought to his desk no later than 3:00 p.m. Sharp
@ItzSailorChaos
@ItzSailorChaos 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@iamFSRL
@iamFSRL 10 ай бұрын
Dana gets the last laugh. Seems about right.
@aztecwrrior1997
@aztecwrrior1997 10 ай бұрын
This seems insane considering Vince is gone from WWE due to unforeseen circumstances
@tenacminotauro9541
@tenacminotauro9541 10 ай бұрын
That clip from O'Donnell is wild. Thats how I'm going to describe MMA to anyone who asks 😅
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
A slogan above my desk. 😆
@trulypoortbreezy1829
@trulypoortbreezy1829 6 ай бұрын
When two people beef for a lifetime then end up on the same team at the end it tells ya the gig is up step 1 has played out so now to step2.
@Mason_Courtney
@Mason_Courtney 10 ай бұрын
Isn't that the dude that's in trouble for shitting on somebodies head?
@BreakerX42
@BreakerX42 4 ай бұрын
Yep
@Abettergrappler
@Abettergrappler 10 ай бұрын
They both make Bill Cosby look like a saint.
@purpleshirtfish
@purpleshirtfish 10 ай бұрын
Crazy thing is Jared from Subway was once in WWE as well. They all forming an offender alliance 😂
@ReactEditsPapas13
@ReactEditsPapas13 3 ай бұрын
Thats a bit of a stretch. I mean, it's Bill Cosby.
@Abettergrappler
@Abettergrappler 3 ай бұрын
@@ReactEditsPapas13 Bill at least had the common courtesy to drug them so they didn't remember. Vince and Dana want to see the fear in their eyes
@ReactEditsPapas13
@ReactEditsPapas13 3 ай бұрын
@@Abettergrappler if they didn't remember, howd he get busted
@Abettergrappler
@Abettergrappler 3 ай бұрын
@@ReactEditsPapas13 Bro, you trying to actually argue over who is worse. On a joke post. You need a friend or something?
@jimlahey3919
@jimlahey3919 10 ай бұрын
The undertaker calling out Brock was hilarious. “Wanna do it? Wanna fake fight me?”
@Ticketman99
@Ticketman99 10 ай бұрын
Who knew it would lead to breaking the streak? Lol
@Tenchigumi
@Tenchigumi 10 ай бұрын
When I first heard it, I thought him saying "you wanna go?" was in regards to leaving the arena and having a beer or something.
@md.mazedulhaquerefat8585
@md.mazedulhaquerefat8585 9 ай бұрын
Bro, Brock was suffering from multiple internal health conditions so Vince sent Undertaker to tease Brock to come back to WWE. He came to WWE a year later, with a condition that Brock would receive full time payment for working part time. You know the rest.
@Jesus_H._Tap-DancingChrist
@Jesus_H._Tap-DancingChrist 10 ай бұрын
When did Vince McMahon start looking like John Waters?
@oldironsides4107
@oldironsides4107 10 ай бұрын
Yeah. That’s a weird look he had out of nowhere
@Rando1975
@Rando1975 10 ай бұрын
@@oldironsides4107 especially considering for years Vince HATED facial hair. Jim Cornette said when he'd ride in a limo with Vince, he'd shave along the drive, almost attacking his face with the razor. When the pictures first surfaced of Vince with the 'stash, a lot of fans thought is was a doctored pic.
@paulkendrick4153
@paulkendrick4153 10 ай бұрын
Who is that?
@Jesus_H._Tap-DancingChrist
@Jesus_H._Tap-DancingChrist 10 ай бұрын
@@paulkendrick4153 Google Pink Flamingos director
@RS-xq6je
@RS-xq6je 10 ай бұрын
"An undesirable influence on youth" look at social media id rather my son was into mma rather than idolise these modern day clout goblins
@ThatMoonFleory
@ThatMoonFleory 10 ай бұрын
19:47 Hot men? Pause.
@BlackBullNDN
@BlackBullNDN 10 ай бұрын
I'll summarize this video in one sentence. Vince is Daniel Day-Lewis in Let There Be Blood.
@gardenboydon
@gardenboydon 10 ай бұрын
Vince was just trying to create an enemy out of the UFC because he's a competitive psycho
@HungSuhLow
@HungSuhLow 3 ай бұрын
10:06 I could only imagine Cyborg Santos’ face when he realized he was scripted to get his skull caved in, or Silva and Weidman’s faces when they read the script realizing their legs would literally break and fold underneath them
@grim_cataha
@grim_cataha 10 ай бұрын
Based resident evil 2 edit
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Legendary moment in gaming. 😆
@basicpianotutorial
@basicpianotutorial 10 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this content, awesome job
@DrBeauHightower
@DrBeauHightower 10 ай бұрын
Clicked fast on this one
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate you dude! Popping my joints thinking about your legendary vids. 😆
@Youtuber90sdude
@Youtuber90sdude 9 ай бұрын
He’s a fire starter. He loves emotionally turning things upside down to push the competition. He knows it’ll make the most momentum since it’s a real life promo. And also giving both promotions $$$
@wgjung1
@wgjung1 10 ай бұрын
Both are deffective human product.
@yourfavoritelawnguy2722
@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 7 ай бұрын
If Chale was smart he would of told Dana about the offer to take the belt, if Dana really didn't care its a free 7 figure donation.
@gregorsamsa2271
@gregorsamsa2271 10 ай бұрын
UFC made WWE pretty much obsolete. Not just because of the fact that WWE is only scripted, but also because UFC is also simply way more entertaining. WWE and pro wrestling itself just doesn't feel authentic anymore (and mind you, I say this as an oldschool wrestling fan). UFC got the characters, the entertainment aspect, the competitiveness, the drama (only that it's not scripted, which makes it even more interesting), the press conferences... Why bother watching the "fake" version of it, if you got a much better alternative, that is on top of that also real, and authentic? UFC and MMA simply conquered this century so far. And they'll continue to conquer, while WWE and pro wrestling will continue to decrease.
@gregorsamsa2271
@gregorsamsa2271 10 ай бұрын
WWE is trying it's best, they kinda are trying to emulate UFC a bit (with all the press conferences, which is pretty cool). They're doing better now compared to a few years ago, but it still won't change the outcome. The signs of the times have changed, even Vince couldn't change that. Finally, he lost this one. And even better to see, that he fucked off for good, for all the awful things he did behind the scenes. Dude might be a “genius”, but an absolute scumbag as a human being. Always was! Also destroyed pro wrestling by killing the territories, and making it a monopoly. No wonder this industry sucks today in general, since besides WWE there's nothing interesting to watch.
@TVee-nu2gb
@TVee-nu2gb 10 ай бұрын
​@@gregorsamsa2271yeah it has nothing to do with wokeness... It's not like Hollywood is dead for the same reason kid ... Nah it's just Vince man ...just Vince ... 😂😂😂😂
@gregorsamsa2271
@gregorsamsa2271 10 ай бұрын
@@TVee-nu2gb Wokeness? Seriously? That's childish. Ironic, how you call me the kid here 🙄
@TVee-nu2gb
@TVee-nu2gb 10 ай бұрын
@@gregorsamsa2271 don't engage in the conversation you might lose, that's what you were trained like a circus animals to do ...great job Also I love how you don't even try and challenge my Hollywood comment ? Why not ? Wokeness isn't real ... You got nothing to hide ... So be a man and engage ...stop running away
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
I personally don't watch the newer stuff. Really just an old school Attitude era fan, but I also recognize WWE is doing really well. I don't like half the movies out there either, but doesn't mean everyone else has to dislike it too. I'm totally cool with it.
@davidjonesjr4676
@davidjonesjr4676 8 ай бұрын
Good job brother enjoyed it
@J0nny_Ch1mp0
@J0nny_Ch1mp0 10 ай бұрын
Shout out to wrestling bios
@TVee-nu2gb
@TVee-nu2gb 10 ай бұрын
The only wrestling channel worth watching ...well Otrs is the goat when he uploads .. But yeah everyone is a propagandist with a highschool mentality...
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
As a near-exclusive Attitude era fan, that dude's channel is perfect for me. 😆
@jiks99
@jiks99 10 ай бұрын
Great video
@RomaroBrandon
@RomaroBrandon 10 ай бұрын
This video is uploaded 4 days removed from Micheal Chandler appearing on Monday Night Raw and challenging Conor McGregor
@marshallwishvashi6876
@marshallwishvashi6876 9 ай бұрын
Bullies run into Bullies who are bigger and meaner than themselves. Don't think Dana respects Vince, he just can't bully him like he does to PFL and bellator
@applethunderspice3072
@applethunderspice3072 10 ай бұрын
The UFC would have been bigger, faster without Joe Silva.
@hakr4751
@hakr4751 10 ай бұрын
How?
@TheMightyMidget
@TheMightyMidget 10 ай бұрын
@@hakr4751JS notoriously held fighters back when they didn’t comply w what he wanted or tried to negotiate. Would freeze fighters out leaving them sat there for ages without a contract or offer them fights way below their ranking knowing they’d sit out. He was a spiteful and malicious little man by MANY accounts. There’s a reason you hear a lot of fighters big up Hunter, you never heard them mention Joe.
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
I think he participated in some ruthless business tactics for sure. I think it helped em in a ton of ways from a sadly unethical strategy. I think more of the harm he's done to the UFC is coming forward in the Anti-Trust case. At the time though, I think it absolutely helped them.
@cattameme
@cattameme 3 ай бұрын
I thought this was Joe Rogan A.I voice for 6minutes.
@gmartines8511
@gmartines8511 10 ай бұрын
Mike Goldberg is like Jim Ross great commentators
@oldironsides4107
@oldironsides4107 10 ай бұрын
Goldberg was terrible
@lilchewy6477
@lilchewy6477 3 ай бұрын
@@oldironsides4107exactly trash
@reformedstoic1581
@reformedstoic1581 7 ай бұрын
"If he dies, he dies" - Joe Rogan
@mattnick23
@mattnick23 10 ай бұрын
never knew Joe said that 😂 that was cold
@RS-xq6je
@RS-xq6je 10 ай бұрын
But also correct
@johnwinkelman1764
@johnwinkelman1764 10 ай бұрын
@15:17 More people have died doing fake wrestling than in the UFC octagon
@davidstreet2949
@davidstreet2949 10 ай бұрын
WWE tried to buy PRIDE to keep it away from UFC. Put Dana in the seat without a view when Dana came to see Ronda. And UFC has done much bad stuff... UFC based their company on WWE the good and the bad.
@GettingNegative
@GettingNegative 10 ай бұрын
I wonder what a WWE fan channel style video about this would look like?
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
I definitely watch a fair few of them that cover the Attitude Era stuff. I would be interested in their perspective as well.
@SuperChillTunes
@SuperChillTunes 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, the UFC is just a bunch of gay hot men rolling around and dominating eachother
@alanbeam7187
@alanbeam7187 9 ай бұрын
So Goldberg does the right thing , but ends up dumped like garbage. Is that loyalty Dana?
@deegee9198
@deegee9198 10 ай бұрын
Mike shouldve took that Vince deal smh
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 10 ай бұрын
Tbf, not sure it would have been a great fit. 😆 Vince would have been a terrible boss and considering what he did to JR on multiple occasions... might have gotten let go in a bad way there too.
@sp4604
@sp4604 10 ай бұрын
Vince in cuffs will be the ultimate redemption
@daveyadict_
@daveyadict_ 10 ай бұрын
Given the accusations against Vince, and the court transcripts....I'm all for anything talking shit and demeaning Vince. That gross, despicable human being.
@TVee-nu2gb
@TVee-nu2gb 10 ай бұрын
😂 be honest, you are vaacinated with a booster ... Aren't ya ?
@daveyadict_
@daveyadict_ 10 ай бұрын
@@TVee-nu2gb and what would that even have to do with anything at all concerning Vince and him (literally) shitting on some girl?
@carphucker2973
@carphucker2973 10 ай бұрын
@@TVee-nu2gb boy you dumb as hell with this
@cac9926
@cac9926 10 ай бұрын
@@TVee-nu2gb Don't start acting like the communist libs dude. Sometimes accusations are true, you can't fall into a 1 track mind then you're just a hypocrite. Just as bad as the booster people. Vince would sell you and your family out so illegals can move into your house.
@jeltje50
@jeltje50 8 ай бұрын
Actual bot behaviour ​@@TVee-nu2gb
@hulkysmashy8183
@hulkysmashy8183 3 ай бұрын
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