Evolution Isn't Science!

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[@roadmanpussio4562]

I’d put evolution deniers and flat earthers in the same category

[@LegendGamer-dj8om]

i’ve been saying that for years. They’re damn near on the same level.

[@conspiracy1914]

we are the same thing. if one believes the earth is flat. its followed by evolution didn't happen.

[@madara211000]

Normally they're creationists who are both

[@guitarista67]

For sure!

[@David34981]

@@madara211000 Nah, most of them are not flat earthers. But there is only a trivial difference.

[@Metaljacket420]

Saying science was invented by one person is like claiming harnessing fire was invented by one person.

[@Virtualblueart]

It was, haven't you heard the word of our saviour Prometeus who was chained to a rock to have his liver eaten every day? 😉

[@jordanhester4821]

It's like claiming someone invented walking

[@GuitarTunings33]

Science is a method ding bat. It was developed by Francis Bacon.

[@ryleeskeem]

@@GuitarTunings33​​⁠​⁠Many industrial practices and forms of experimentation that we now consider to be science have been practiced for millennia prior to Francis Bacon’s advocacy for science. Mathematics and engineering are both huge examples of science existing in the BC era, plus the existence of figures like Imhotep prove that scientific discoveries that regard surgery and medicine far predate our idea of Western Europe’s relatively recent (

[@GuitarTunings33]

Math and engineering aren't science. Science is a method. Observation. Hypothesis, experiment with repeatable results.

[@nicholasbanton]

This kid is the poster child for Dunning-Krueger. I don't know if it's possible for him to have more certainty with less knowledge.

[@coreyrobinson8209]

I was just thinking this is an extreme case of the DK effect.

[@Desertphile]

He is correct: evolution is not science. Evolutionary theory is science.

[@celiand2618]

Yep evolution is a bunch of observed facts science then analized. Excellent point... But for some reason they hate it even more when the process is explained.

[@EBDavis111]

I guess in the sense that gravity isn't science because it's just a theory.

[@celiand2618]

I assume "just a theory" is super ironical ? It's is hard with all the idiots around that don't understand the difference between theory and hypothesis and have been never noticed theory shares an etymological origin with theorem from the greek theoreo.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

This guy strikes me as someone who gets all his education from facebook memes and has never read anything else, but thinks he knows better than everyone about everything.

[@lubrew5862]

And you know he had all those memes listed out in a script. It is always funny when someone’s answers don’t follow their script. Even better this guy practiced reading the script it in the mirror.

[@louseveryann2181]

You mean of course BOY.

[@samtorres9949]

When you die, you dont know you're dead. But everyone else feels the pain. The same is when you're stupid. * I paraphrased an author i cant remember.

[@alexanderingraham8255]

LMAO!!

[@Metaljacket420]

"We both know what science is." It's not clear to me that's true.

[@Turglayfopa]

A conspiracy theorist will tell you to "ask anyone" but never ask anyone themselves.

[@BigTwitchy]

By anyone they mean people that say stuff that they agree with, i.e. other conspiracy theorists.

[@Leivve]

Would have picked Archimedes to be my "Greek science guy" cause at least he is credited with doing stuff related to mathematics and science.

[@thanksalotAndy]

How dare you argue against this world expert in what science is! He knows everything.

[@rylanasher4756]

If confidence were hemorrhoids, this caller would just be a giant cluster.

[@inplfw]

"This is where we want to go critical on." would be such a baller thing to say if it wasn't followed up by absolutely nothing of value.

[@rylanasher4756]

It had so much promise... but it turned out to be a wet fart on fresh, white, cotton underwear.

[@ottomaddoxx5360]

Hey guest, a philosopher of science is a philosopher, not a scientist. I did find an essay that explained some of Aristotle's actual experiments though. Well, he did one experiment, at least. Obviously, he's known for philosophy, not for science. I just found this story informative. He argued against the contemporaneous idea that saltwater is the natural state of water. Instead arguing that saltwater is made up of more fundamental substances, one of them being fresh water. So, apparently he did some filtration and distillation experiments. That said, he didn't invent distillation or filtration, so I assume people had already been experimenting with those things for a long time.

[@SalivatingSteve]

Who we’d call scientists today were historically referred to as “natural philosophers” (physics) mathematicians, naturalists (geology ie Lewis & Clark), doctors/physicians (biology), astrologers (astronomy), alchemists (chemistry), etc. Each branch of science has its own old school names throughout history. Also a caveman could easily observe the dry salt crystals leftover after a pool of salt water evaporates. Our ancient ancestors were pretty smart and don’t get enough credit from people today.

[@billmcguire4777]

Stupid people are incapable of hearing themselves like we hear them

[@odinson6348]

The problem with creationists is they begin with the presupposition of faith, then deny anything that doesn't match their faith. It's not that they have valid points, but that they simply deny fact for faith.

[@richardstevenwalz4968]

Science is the quest to predict and explain reality by hypothesis and experiment among peer review!

[@Kaigon.03]

Aristotle fr? Dude just threw out the oldest and most prestigious name he could think of.

[@TriggerWarning0]

"evolution isn't science, god is science. also, I'm just terrfied of dying."

[@rylanasher4756]

: Every creationist ever 😂

[@andyhancher1280]

The confidence he had at the beginning that he was gunna change your mind and then started talking about Aristotle…

[@kerrbyy7825]

ok how the hell did you manage that cricket noise at 9:04

[@jme92685]

He really stuck it to ya good with that “you too” at the end.😆😆😆😆😆

[@michaelgordon3552]

This guy gets all his education from clickbait headlines. Peterson, you have the paiience of a saint.

[@fohrum4757]

Wow that kid has absolutely no clue what he's talking about 😂

[@nohandlemebruh]

"what is science?" "A miserable little pile of secrets"

[@SeverelyGlitchy]

This one started off with a bang. He interrupts when you answer his first question. Kinda sets the tone.

[@Martial-Law]

It’s historic dudee, what the heck don’t you get?!?!

[@-gearsgarage-]

Thank be to Aristotle for creating science!!! The one and only man who ever questioned anything

[@harveybernstein9203]

Short and sweet. Love it.

[@SweHall]

I have bad arguments. I'm Scott Malkinson.

[@Glasstable2011]

I have diabetes.

[@vesuvandoppelganger]

1:28 "Allele frequencies change over time." There were 10 black bugs and 10 brown bugs of the same species. I stepped on 2 brown bugs and killed them. I changed the allele frequency and caused evolution to occur.

[@Jo-JoandTaffy]

Poor little guy.

[@GunnerHeatFire]

He did a whole lot of yapping and almost said nothing, I’m thinking he hasn’t read anything from the opposing side of his beliefs and got all of his info from more people like himself, proof conspiracies rot the brain to the stem.

[@harveybernstein9203]

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. You’re wrong! You’re wrong!

[@lubrew5862]

This dude was definitely reading off of a script. It is always funny when people have the script and don’t know how to react when someone challenges it. Heck, I bet this dude even practiced it on the mirror before hand.

[@Norm_Peterson]

Bwanuh Bwanuh Bwanuh Nuh nuh nuh🎶🎸

[@Metaljacket420]

Brother no, brother no, brother no. No, no, no. *Translated to English*

[@Norm_Peterson]

@@Metaljacket420 😵

[@ROFT]

When talking about being repeatable, it doesn't mean that you have to repeat the observed action. It means that you repeat the analysis of the data.

[@SalivatingSteve]

Exactly and you can refine your theory with further observations and more datapoints. For instance the modern theory of plate tectonics, which builds upon the earlier theory of continental drift. Just like how general relativity improves upon newtons gravity.

[@dansmith7009]

Yep, repeating the observation is not the same thing as repeating the action. For example, I’m certain that none of these clowns would argue that observatories doing spectrographic analysis of stars to calculate red shift isn’t science. But we aren’t making any new stars lol. Same thing, finding a fossil is an observation. Predicting what kinds of terrain and features of fossils will be found in that terrain and at what depth and predicting a ratio of parent to daughter elements of radioactive material will be found nearby, and then finding those things, is repeating the observation.

[@ethangross6412]

bro literally sounds like the nerd emoji

[@bokoura]

Scrolled down here to see if anyone else commented about it. Dude literally sounds like he's doing a cartoon nerd voice, rofl.

[@CeezGeez]

"akssshhhhhssssuualllyyyyy" 💦🤓

[@johntrip07]

Why are the dumbest always the most confident?

[@breadfan7433]

Justin Kruger and David Dunning may have an answer to your question.

[@Nekotaku_TV]

I like the border you put around the chat.

[@GunnerHeatFire]

I didn’t even realize, it looks nice.

[@HisZotness]

That ending... 😂

[@russellmyers934]

For this caller - if what you say is true, then why aren't you scampering over to the nearest top-tier University, running directly into the Biology Department, showing them exactly why they are wrong and you are right, and then they give you a PhD and make you head of the department. It REALLY is that simple.

[@HisZotness]

Don't forget his Nobel Prize.

[@FeliciaByNature]

Wow.

[@coreyrobinson8209]

It would be easier to refute the theory of gravity.

[@williamwilson6499]

If you go to a school of higher learning like Harvard, Yale, Oxford, Princeton, or Stanford to study molecular biology, do you think it will be based on Evolution or intelligent design/creationism? People who reject the science of evolution…and yes they reject it on religious grounds…should not be allowed medical care beyond the anointing of oil, prayer, and the laying on of hands.

[@MK-Ultra0]

One of the main differences between science and pseudoscience is that science is falsifiable and pseudoscience isnt. So Aristotle must have come up with falsifcationalism, right?

[@louseveryann2181]

Haaa, another high schooler is going to explain to us why reality is wrong.....

[@AllanSavolainen]

I wish Peterson would have asked who was that person who created the word evolution. I would guess the caller thinks it is Darwin but the term was already used before him

[@CurvedAdjacent]

Because of the implication…

[@thegreatshamalamadingdong9788]

😂😂 where the hell you find these "People" 😂😂😂

[@chrispysaid]

did my guy Peterson just pronounce wolves as "wolves" and wolf as "woof"?

[@GunnerHeatFire]

Yeah i heard that too 😂

[@chriswing7466]

This guest has definitely debated with a much dumber person and 'won' a few times. His clumsy confidence gives it away. He tried, quite clunkily, to walk Peterson into a gotcha and didn't managed to get there, lol

[@jberrocalucf]

The kid was right … about Aristotle being heavily involved in the development of Epistimi

[@breadfan7433]

No. Natural philosophy is a precursor of science in the same way alchemy is a precursor of chemistry. Aristotle's approach to nature was mostly philosophical, and never really scientific (apart from observing stuff and drawing unwarranted conclusions which were mostly false).

[@N0ahFence]

I remember this live... this guest was completely intolerable.

[@ElectiveFool]

Evolution isn't science in the same way 230v 13A isn't electricity. Not all power is 230v13A. But if you lick it, it tastes like power

[@corringhamdepot4434]

The ignorance is strong with this one. "Francis Bacon outlined the scientific method in his 1620 treatise, Novum Organum. In doing so, Bacon introduced the scientific method to European thinkers at the height of the Scientific Revolution, influencing the likes of Galileo and Isaac Newton, who put the method into practice in their works". Aristotle is said to be the first to combine empirical studies with logic. I think there was a way to go after Aristotle, before the scientific method was actually defined.

[@ottomaddoxx5360]

Yeah, if you ask the internet when science started, you get the nice story about science being thousands of years old, but what we know of as the methods of science didn't really happen until much later.

[@lubrew5862]

There is some of the precursors to what we call science came from Aristotle, but that is usually if you are being very generous. What we call science, as in the scientific method is from Bacon, the dude even stated the steps as in what is attributed to Bacon. The dude had a script and didn’t know what he should do when Peterson challenged it. You know the dude even practiced it befor the conversation.

[@SteraFaux]

Preshishely

[@Richardj410]

Where do these people come from? They haven't gone to school and think they know more than anyone. They don't bring evidence but only claims. Why should you look it up it's their claims.

[@Lightbearer616]

The fact that someone doesn't know evolution has been proved immediately brands them as an idiot. To add "is not science" = cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo.......

[@umbrablack]

Professional yapper

[@javsw.1878]

Why is Sid the sloth dictating what science is

[@eljay5746]

Sounds as though he has been home schooled.

[@kfsea]

Shhhufferin sshhhhucotasshhh

[@mark270five]

AI generated thumbnail --> dislike. Only clicked on the vid to insult it. AI ≠ art.

[@user-sc5rc1mb6n]

If you can empirical proof god, I will believe it.

[@CeezGeez]

let me guess, caller thinks this because of their religious beliefs?

[@breadfan7433]

I think he has legitimate scientific reasons to doubt evolution, like "nuh huuh" and "bruh nuh".

[@gowdsake7103]

The UTTER IGNORANCE of this kid is astounding Creationism is perfect pseudo science and anything in the bible

[@ericzh9984]

Least belligerent evolution denier

[@guitarista67]

Language is totally determined by a collective, namely the human race.