I’m a 85 year old Woman who after 67 years did my own research and I’m now a proud Ex Mo and I really Enjoy your videos and your Honesty about the mormon church !!! ❤️
@Nelia27053 ай бұрын
Wow, that is amazing! You can be so, so proud of yourself 😊❤
@micol74903 ай бұрын
This is so nice to know! Go grandma, un abbraccio ❤❤❤
@katyafan3 ай бұрын
Glad you finally found your freedom!! You go, girl!
@amylou22snowhite3 ай бұрын
Way to go! Proud if you.
@theweirdmom2 ай бұрын
Wooooot!
@Raisingwildminds3 ай бұрын
McKay has the best Mormon Girl Hair I've seen 😂 He should get his temple recommend renewed just by sending a pic of his hair in.
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
HAHAHA
@autumnssssss3 ай бұрын
@@JordanandMcKaymckay has curly hair and needs to stop brushing it when it's dry! :)
@TheAnnabel223 ай бұрын
I am very jealous of McKay's hair, not gunna lie. It's beautiful.
@hellaSwankkyToo3 ай бұрын
@@autumnssssss 😳 uhhh we have different definitions of curly. wavy, sure. but if anything i'd be recommending more brushing not less. regardless, let him live. let him manage + wear his hair however he wants. it's safe to assume he likes his hair as it is until he indicates otherwise.
@patroy26913 ай бұрын
@@JordanandMcKay Are you using extensions? /s
@brendabatt68743 ай бұрын
What got me about Zac and Jen in Vegas is hes having his hissy fit while hes gambling away the money that she earned. Please Jen, see your worth and leave this man.
@moustik313 ай бұрын
This. Plus the fact, that him and Dakota highjacked the girls' trip in the 1st place was so annoying. If both of these would-be "traditional" men, did their job as a provider, they wouldnt have had the time to butt in in the 1st place. It was infuriating on so many levels.
@Missjacket3 ай бұрын
I think that's exactly why 1) he made such a big deal about the show and 2) why he didn't want Jen to come and talk about the issue. So that when they did come back together, he could say, look we both did bad things you went and did all that you did and I lost all this money. Let's just forgive and forget.
@brandy31d3 ай бұрын
Literally this
@lenabruto28603 ай бұрын
Why you crazy
@blib43282 ай бұрын
@@Missjacket Yes, put her on the defense already so she feels like she cannot criticise him because she "also did wrong".
@bodytrainer1crane7303 ай бұрын
Yeah women get depressed and lonely when they lose their faith because they feel deeply betrayed and get dumped by most or all of their Mormon friends.
@saschamayer40503 ай бұрын
I wonder why... 🤔
@mariafromoverthepond3 ай бұрын
In all the recaps of SLMW, this has been the most with extensive sources, research and facts . I feel like I’ve sat through a fascinating history lesson - as a nevermo. Thanks for the work you’ve both put into this. What a fun way to end a day of work!
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
That’s the best compliment!! 🩵 thank you so much!
@saschamayer40503 ай бұрын
I just now realized that the correct abbreviation for "The secret lives of Mormon wives" is SLOMOW 😄 (If it's not, it should be 😉)
@kikilebay3 ай бұрын
I thought Zac telling Jen he didn't care about her job or friends because they needed to move to NY was rich considering he can only go because she's paying for it.
@Sam_dea3 ай бұрын
I really though that he was searching his brain for some semblance of empathy for his literal wife, and then the words “I don’t care” fell out of his mouth. Like call a lawyer right now girl what the fuck.
@h33-q8w3 ай бұрын
Yeah but if she doesn't his parents will do her job is irrelevant 😂
@zombie.xo3333 ай бұрын
The saddest part is I believe they are officially moving to ny :(
@lewdawg693 ай бұрын
@@h33-q8wwhat was the purpose of this comment
@Dahlily3 ай бұрын
@@zombie.xo333i think they already did, no? Or so the tiktoks make it seem
@dorothymilne12583 ай бұрын
Thank you for your great channel. As a 78 year old escaped Mormon, your content is always a tonic. I don’t have Hulu or Netflix or anything, so am BFF with the Toob.
@caseyw.65502 ай бұрын
You're amazing! 😊
@Sarah-re7cg3 ай бұрын
Ted Bundy was baptized Mormon?!!?!!! I’m a true crime girlie and I didn’t know that!
@LittleMissLounge3 ай бұрын
Yeah, he was apparently very good at Mormoning. So good, it took a weird amount of time (IMO) before his LDS peeps rescinded their support.
@Sarah-re7cg3 ай бұрын
@@LittleMissLounge👀👀👀👀 holy snot
@zombie.xo3333 ай бұрын
The Mormon church endorsed him and supported his claim of innocence due to being a Mormon in good standing
@Sarah-re7cg3 ай бұрын
@@zombie.xo333 HA wow, the evidence was clear as day too
@Djalixb3 ай бұрын
Yes girl apparently he had small group etc too!! Fellow true crime Junkie
@lilyarngoblin3 ай бұрын
OMG McKay, our parents said the same thing!? My mom said “remember who you are and what you stand for” every time my siblings and I got out of the car for school or left the house!
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
It was like this quirky joke we said unabashedly but my god is it weird to think back on.
@lilyarngoblin3 ай бұрын
My mom definitely said it unironically lol. So weird, so Mormon.
@mollyb81362 ай бұрын
I tell my cat to make good choices when I leave for work. Am I secretly giving Mormon vibes to my cat 🤔
@bulbasaurevolved3 ай бұрын
Y’all know I have been waiting for you to cover this lol. So many things I want both of yours, and specifically Jordan’s opinions on 👀
@Re.bake.a3 ай бұрын
Add to the list of "very mormon things" - behaving weird around, dismissing, or doing mental gymnastics around other peoples' negative emotions
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Happy valley could never.
@allyson67353 ай бұрын
If I told my husband something was important to me and he immediately said “I don’t care.” ….I don’t think we could come back from that. THAT alone shows so many deeper issues
@toloveandrestore24722 ай бұрын
It’s like she’s an adult and he is a toddler
@PetraP013 ай бұрын
Watching this after I went to watch the older video you referenced. It's so lovely to see how much more confident you two are now, especially Jordan. She seems less checking visually with McKay that she's not saying anything wrong, she's so outspoken now, less fidgety, seems much more confident in her own skin. McKay looks more confident now too, but I noticed especially Jordan. Good to see it for both of you ❤. Small edits: cute kitty! And Jordan, big ooofff on what you said about your mom, cause I've experienced the same issues with my mom (dad too, but mom more), my husband did with his parents as well. And surprise, we're not very close to either of them nowadays, even if they have gotten a bit better at boundaries and respect. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Jordan was in the thick of grad school at the time too, so she was having a rough time.
@alyb3333 ай бұрын
Not sure if y'all will ever see this, but since I knew I was moving to Utah, I spent all of last summer watching your videos in order to understand the Mormon culture and religion here, and I really cannot thank y'all enough. It has helped with the transition here so much, and I am so grateful for your videos.
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh what a kind compliment! I’m so glad they were helpful!! Wishing you all the best in Utah. It can be crazy sometimes but it is beautiful!
@tommiegnosis3 ай бұрын
I so so so appreciate yall calling out the queer speculation! It's beyond toxic. Even if you're queer, it's still toxic and helps no one. We should not try to force people to come out! As a pansexual woman, I hate when people speculate on people's sexuality. Who gaf?! Also, it can be very dangerous for the person... Even if you are also queer, still not okay!
@michellecherie4193 ай бұрын
The way Witney smiles reminds me of a cartoon villain. Especially when she walks into that roller skating birthday. Like pure evil 💩 disturbing smile.
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
She could never be a villain with all those frumpy outfits she wore 😳
@happymelodieart3 ай бұрын
It's so funny to me the hypocrisy of plastic surgery for that kind of religious people. Aren't they supposed to love the body that God gave them?
@Freaky0Nina3 ай бұрын
Na they're supposed to look pretty for the men. But god forbid they alter their bodies for their own selfexpression, like tattoos and piercings. That's not attractive to Russel Nelson.
@lunalove93953 ай бұрын
It's sad because there was even a woman on the show dealing with severe autoimmune/skin issues as a result of her breast implants. She did get them removed at some point after the show was filmed, but you'd think that would make people reconsider and act so casually about it.
@happymelodieart3 ай бұрын
@@lunalove9395 Oh gosh, yeah that actually pains me that women put themselves through such physical danger and trauma, solely to please other people. It's heartbreaking truly.
@Teajay212 ай бұрын
And then they use that same argument against trans people not following God's plan for them!
@happymelodieart2 ай бұрын
@@Teajay21 Exactly! Can't handle the hypocrisy and double standard with these people!
@maegangibbons7923 ай бұрын
Hearing you talk about how toxic these religious structures are is very healing and helpful for me as I'm always trying to dismantle the toxic beliefs instilled in me since childhood. Please never stop doing what you're doing. Sending my thanks! ❤🙏😊
@SJTJ3 ай бұрын
“Secret Housewives of Mormon Lives”: the table-flipping version of Sister Wives. Sign me the fuck up.
@Sophrishea3 ай бұрын
The watch parties have been so fun, ty for doing them!
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
We’ve loved them too!
@jenjacobsmunsonАй бұрын
I moved to Utah 35 years ago in high school and had/raised 2 children here. The Mormon influence on our lives, my career, our family and my children have has huge. Due to all the discrimination (by people not by the Mormon church itself, to be clear), my daughter moved away for college and now has started her career out of state and will never move back. It's a tough place to grow up and even live to some degree as a non-Mormon. That said, there are so many amazing things about Utah we've decided to stay. I can relate to all you said and do feel I can speak on Mormon-ism, especially the impact on being non-Mormon here.
@RR-tk5ve3 ай бұрын
I really admired Taylor for being so honest and vulnerable. It hurt to see how much she was hurting but I was also really impressed that she held her own and didn’t give in to Dakota’s or her parents’ pressure to get married.
@kirstycat3 ай бұрын
Mayci was also my favourite, she was the most likeable and seemingly genuinely kind person.
@anda1353 ай бұрын
Yesss I’ve been hoping you’d cover this! Making plans to get cozy and sat to watch the entire thing live!
@red_hobbit33232 ай бұрын
Taylor was on an episode of Nick Viall's podcast and explained the incident that ended her marriage & friendships, it was SA. Its hard to listen to, especially with how much she protects the person involved and takes responsibility for her actions 💔
@powderandpaint142 ай бұрын
Was her ex husband the perpetrator?
@red_hobbit33232 ай бұрын
@powderandpaint14 no, i think it was the guy she had feelings for
@purplepandas723 ай бұрын
Jen Affleck's husband lied about the celebrity family connection 😂 someone did the Mormon genealogy to prove it
@toloveandrestore24722 ай бұрын
Details please!
@manyyoumas3 ай бұрын
omg i’m so excited for the premiere!!! loved the vid!!
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
thank you so much!!! ❤
@loriherbst70433 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering the earlier “scandal” too.
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@PossiblyKayla3 ай бұрын
My sister in law (who is Mormon, I’m ex-Mormon) brought up the show to me and said some of the girls aren’t and never have been Mormon. Doesn’t sound like that’s true haha. She was pretty frustrated about it
@maddiek64703 ай бұрын
Obviously not entirely sure in this case as I do not know any of them, but I will say that this is a pretty common accusation thrown at atheists who used to be Christian. Some like to argue that we were never "truly Christian" as a way to deny the fact that people willingly leave the religion. Sometimes it isn't even malicious, they just genuinely believe that if you were ever really a Christian, you would know "the truth" and would not be able to leave and deny god.
@tierratowne3 ай бұрын
KZbin has been so boring lately. But I WILL watch Jordan and McKay
@manyyoumas3 ай бұрын
💜 loved it! Remember everyone to hydrate and never marry men like Zac 💜
@JulieMarcum-zs1pz3 ай бұрын
I second that 💯🥰
@Novjuly3 ай бұрын
Whole time I was watching the show, I was thinking “I can’t wait to hear what Jordan and McKay a think of this.” 😂
@Darbster3 ай бұрын
Love that you guys used the terrible back tattoo pic of Ben Affleck lol
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Such an odd tattoo for an actor to get
@Darbster3 ай бұрын
@@JordanandMcKay it really is!
@sjacobs2463 ай бұрын
I had no idea “Real Housewives of Salt Lake City” is a thing.
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Recommend. 2 of the ladies are distant cousins of mine.
@annekimberling28253 ай бұрын
I have been getting Botox for a decade at multiple locations and have never been offered laughing gas.
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
New Mormon loophole discovered ‼️
@eliselapuce3 ай бұрын
Jordan and McKay's content being the background of my remote work days helps my mental health
@brittanymcdaniel64082 ай бұрын
I remember in the 90’s not being allowed to drink any caffeine at all around my LDS family. We couldn’t have any soda unless it was Sprite or non-Barq’s root beer. I was even called an addict by my aunt when I asked for a Pepsi because I had a headache 😂 Do you think that dressing modestly and wearing garments is going to become another thing that the mainstream church will eventually stop caring about? Like, whatever source they got the garment thing from will be like the Word of Wisdom and just get interpreted differently so people can start wearing normal clothing without the shame?
@OhsoWoobie3 ай бұрын
Literally searched to see if you guys have a video on this and what do I find 👀
@catherinesullivan6413 ай бұрын
Come on people, bump them to 100,000!!!
@meshellspeexs46073 ай бұрын
So I’ve lived in Utah for about 3 years now… I went to a dental office where the staff was predominantly Mormon I.e. the dentist and his assistant (would talk about scriptures while working on my teeth). His assistant offered me laughing gas for teeth cavities which has never happened to me… so I did figure this must be a thing here… sure enough the show pretty much confirmed that 😅
@ei52873 ай бұрын
It's a crime you don't have more subscribers! Great episode, thank you!
@millie-mayprice8913 ай бұрын
I am neither mormon nor USAmerican, but I love how real y'all are. It feels like having the situation explained to me by a homey, and i appreciate that.
@t1dotaku3 ай бұрын
Yes!!! Since I saw the trailer I was eagerly waiting for you guys to talk about it!
@heathermacneil22983 ай бұрын
Best reaction video of Secret Lives. I always enjoy your intellectual input and fair, respectful commentary.
@DestonieSalazar3 ай бұрын
Just got I here. Have been waiting for your take on all of this madness.
@elisa-beary3 ай бұрын
I call it church of Joseph smith of Latter Day Saints in my mind. That can be their next rebrand idea!😂
@meghill14463 ай бұрын
Is the BYU medical school also going to censor the reproduction pictures in their textbooks? If I was at a doctor's office and saw their degree from a Mormon school (or any super religious school) on the wall I'd be out of there.
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Tough to know but I have had BYU courses where anatomy was censored.
@karenrutledge56953 ай бұрын
I have been DYING to hear your take on this!
@misselizabeth66313 ай бұрын
You guys make such a good pair😊 good commentary!
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Thank you!! 😁
@annekatrinnagel84843 ай бұрын
Since you announced the video I was thrilled! Your videos are always so well thought through, thank you!
@emmazook89802 ай бұрын
It’s so fascinating to listen to y’all talk about the Mormon church! I grew up amish and the similarities are craazzyy
@JordanandMcKay2 ай бұрын
Really?? That’s really interesting to hear. We don’t really get to hear much of that community!
@katharina93182 ай бұрын
What I’m missing here: how toxic Dakota seems. It’s not just the “is he cheating?” His communication patterns seem dangerous (as Macy said) “I love her too much” total BS, completely freaking out, gaslighting and then saying sorry and I love you. I’m not sure how genuine Taylor always is, she seems very insecure though and I feel like she should be on her own to figure out who she is. However, her gut feeling to not marry him seems right! (I think they got married now though) Maybe they are in therapy and figured things out but I felt nervous during the Las Vegas episode not only because of Zac (+ would have liked to know more about Mikayla’s situation…)
@mserinjenne2 ай бұрын
Want to add to the list of Mormon things to do: dress your family identically in white and take a picture on the beach/in the backyard/in nature. Also, horses.
@madysynnn3 ай бұрын
I’m SAT I’ve been waiting for this!!!
@commandermom2 ай бұрын
Waited to watch this video until I finished the whole series! Love love love both of yours take on everything as always!
@meghansullivan68123 ай бұрын
holy shit like 80% of the time u guys or anyone on the show says “momtok” I hear “Montauk” like the vacation spot in New York 😭
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
That would be more fun for sure.
@starveartist2 ай бұрын
Same. I thought they all came from the Hamptons/Long Island Montauk
@Teajay212 ай бұрын
I think of the Montauk Project because I'm a little cryptid weirdo lol
@kellyhauber78913 ай бұрын
Well done. Loved every minute of it.
@Tink003 ай бұрын
I have minor faceblindness, and usually I can manage by honing in on unique features (like nose shape, specific birthmarks, etc) until I've gotten to know someone really well. A mormon community sounds like my personal hell. They're all trying to look as similar as possible? Constantly changing their appearance? I would never know who anyone is 😂😭
@3vaniamaria3 ай бұрын
"Come out swinging" you say? Jordan you love your puns lol. Like in the bf video when you kept saying "til the cows come home"
@mariearteaga30563 ай бұрын
I should have waited to comment! I am in the same boat with my family. And I live in Oklahoma, where the school superintendent is mandating the Bible be taught in school and that the ten commandments have to be posted in classrooms. It's bad enough they make kids pledge blind allegiance to this awful country at schools every day. Now, they are going to cram even more indoctrination into the poor kids heads.
@brittanymcdaniel64082 ай бұрын
I think it’s so unfair that some of these girls are flaunting their clothing without garments and cussing every sentence, then doubling down about having the Temple Recommend. I asked my mom if anyone in my poor family in rural New Mexico did anything like that, would they keep their Temple Recommend and she was like “absolutely not.” The church is not only racist and sexist, but it’s also classist. Would a divorced black woman like Layla be given that much grace by her Bishop??? Nope. The pretty, popular, white and rich girls? Yep.
@JordanandMcKay2 ай бұрын
Like having a temple recommend is not cutesy.
@jthayer4793 ай бұрын
I have had botox multiple times in different cities and laughing gas is not even an option!! It is completely unnecessary. Getting botox takes under 2 minutes and the needles don't even hurt. Plus, you need to not move and the gas makes them more difficult patients.
@justcallmebon26843 ай бұрын
It’s definitely just a loophole for people to get high. Why is it even a group activity?
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Ive only send this reaction in the comments. Never anyone confirming it has been an option.
@brittlebricks102 ай бұрын
@@justcallmebon2684 Only sluttish women travel alone
@nweihe3 ай бұрын
Jordan & McKay, you give real happiness. Both of you have the best humor with great ethics and morals. Excellent content. Thanks for swearing and making me laugh🕉️ 😻.
@Sarah-re7cg3 ай бұрын
Y’all need to come out with your own hair care lines
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Mindy McKnight, watch your back 👀
@Sarah-re7cg3 ай бұрын
@@JordanandMcKay 😂😂😂
@theweirdmom2 ай бұрын
These women have BEEN making bags of money. I feel like a big reason the church hasn’t said anything about them despite their TikTok fame is that they want that tithing.
@JordanandMcKay2 ай бұрын
Could be the only thing that saves their membership imo
@salemsmith70852 ай бұрын
i watched an excellent breakdown of ad cents that the key word mormon gets by alyssa grenfall. the church (probably) pays about $25 per ad on anyone who discusses mormonism at length, be it a blog or youtube or now even tiktok
@theweirdmom2 ай бұрын
@@JordanandMcKay exactly
@lowlyjester3 ай бұрын
As an alcoholic in recovery, I interally grimace, cringe, and groan, at how these shows lean so heavily on alcohol consumption. Gotta go become a member so I can watch along! 💖 Thanks for the commentary, critical thinking, and sass!
@meghansullivan68123 ай бұрын
Congrats on being in recovery 💙 that’s fkn awesome
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how we vilify consuming one carcinogen (tobacco) and normalize consuming another (alcohol). See you Friday!
@hellomello2583 ай бұрын
Reality tv, especially shows where people are brought to a location and filmed for weeks, rely heavily on manipulating the people on the show with alcohol. Especially the on location shows have a tendency to provide alcohol easily but non alcoholic drinks and food less often. It's really horrible to learn about.
@lowlyjester3 ай бұрын
@@meghansullivan6812 Thanks so much! 8 years, baybee!😁
@lowlyjester3 ай бұрын
@JordanandMcKay Defintely! See you all tomorrow!
@megana99082 ай бұрын
The episode we have alllll been waiting for!!!!!!! I wish I could have watched the show with you two.
@kateposts3 ай бұрын
McKay’s parents: Remember who you are and what you stand for… McKay: 🙂 McKay’s parents: …and no sex before marriage! McKay: 🫠
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Had me in the first half.
@TianaKy3 ай бұрын
Yessssss been waiting for this!!!
@biancadesousa15 күн бұрын
I live near a small town where there's lots of mormons, women drop out in grade 10 and get pregnant and then become stay at home mom's right away while their (usually) much older husband works. It's a bizarre religion and I've never understand the appeal of mormonism. The only thing that sucks is whenever someone tries to place a coffee shop there, they all protest so if you live in that small town and you're not mormon you're just out of luck
@b0ssbaby2953 ай бұрын
i have started calling the show "slow-mo" as in SLoMW. feel free to take it for a test drive 😌
@hanatemonstas44852 ай бұрын
I don’t know why, but 51:22 - 51:28 made me think of “me and the bisexual I pulled by being a total golden retriever and a gamer” meme
@Blondiej13 ай бұрын
Great video! Loved your analysis of this whole show.
@RiannaNicole3 ай бұрын
37:58 will be mentally blindsided by the Bundy Mormon thing. With all my usual “female who likes true crime docu- things and the like” and anything scammy, I now feel ill equipped with any smarts I had lol. Now to learn more lol
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
There was a Bundy docu-series on Netflix that talked about a decent bit from a while ago. I don’t recall the name though.
@ruisenor89932 ай бұрын
@@JordanandMcKay wasn't it the Ted Bundy Tapes?
@JordanandMcKay2 ай бұрын
@@ruisenor8993 that’s the one
@hanatemonstas44853 ай бұрын
24:40 OMG so I’m not the only one thinking she looks like Brittany Dawn (same with the other women in general with their hair and highlights)
@emilylandgren56993 ай бұрын
Demi is not ex-mormon! She said on viall files that she is not super rigid on the "cultural" practices like garments, alcohol, etc, she doesnt have a temple recommend, but believes in god and the more theological doctrine. Jessi uses the word ex mormon for herself, and Mikayla is inactive but I haven't heard what language she uses about herself. Otherwise the other 6 are mormon!
@emilylandgren56993 ай бұрын
Layla is Mormon! She says she does her best going to church, but doesn't have a temple recommend. The viall files episode had more info than the show itself about each of their relationship with the church.
@emilylandgren56993 ай бұрын
Not that I agree or love this - but Utah Romeo and Juliet laws have a 10 year allowed age difference for minors at the the age of consent (16). Most states are 3-5 years which makes sense for people who meet in high school. anyways, my point is Mikaylas relationship was legal even if it wasn't otherwise "right"
@LittleMissLounge3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think I'd be way more embarrassed about the anti-trans shit, but sure, adults having consensual sex with each other is far, far worse. /s
@sisuguillam51093 ай бұрын
With regard to the gambling husband pushing pressure on the wife who did nothing wrong: There's a german saying "Angriff ist die beste Verteidigung" (Offence/Attack is the best defence). The guy did that to distract from himself. Simple. Nasty. Typical abusive behavior.
@jathompson373 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know I’m a stereotype I didn’t even know about! (Bisexual gal with golden retriever boyfriend). And now that I think about it - so are our best friends. 🏳️🌈😆
@thetrailwalkers3 ай бұрын
Amazing chat! I finished the series last night and the Las Vegas part was sooo bad for me. Cant imagine that men behave like this in real life! Mayci was my fav person, and I did relate a lot to Whitney regarding friendship (not the bad things she did to them, but trying to move on), but I really dislike Taylor.. not sure why so many like her???
@Valerie-co8th3 ай бұрын
Alot of people (including myself) really like Taylor because she isn't afraid of being who she is. She wants to live a life that is seen as highly valued by the church she grew up in. She has a lot of internal pressure that has come from the environment she grew up in. Which most people in that scenario would try to be covering up things, hiding things, making up excuses and dodging blame. She doesn't do that though. She takes accountability and she is trying to figure out how to improve herself. She is clearly struggling deeply with mental health issues which she does talk about having depression, being on medication. She keeps showing up, not running to hide from her mistakes but owning them and actively trying to figure out how to be better. Which is the exact reason people haven't taken to Whitney and she's receiving so much back lash is the complete lack of accountability. She doesn't own ANYTHING she's done which leads to zero improvement. If you're not acknowledging your mistakes you can't work on those things to be better.
@natalierose133 ай бұрын
I can’t believe I missed the freaking watch party last night. I’m devastated. Those were the episodes I really wanted to see.
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
We only did one of the Vegas episodes!!! So you didn’t miss the other Vegas one yet that we’ll do next Friday!!
@mariearteaga30563 ай бұрын
I grew up Christian and what might be considered "fundie light." My Mom always told me the same thing when I left the house. Also "be sure your sins will find you out." It's just kind of funny because most things my parents would call a "sin" are exactly who I am now. A pansexual witch. But I am the most boring pansexual witch you ever met. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't even date because I'm honestly preferring being alone currently. It's funny and also really sad.
@deaditeera3 ай бұрын
Hi fellow pansexual!! I’m not a witch but I don’t consider myself a religious person anymore, and have been interested in witchcraft for some time… I just read your comment and wanted to say hi!! 👋
@keltai833 ай бұрын
IKR?!? I'm in LGBTQ and Pagan circles and you cannot imagine what a massive bunch of nerds we are. My plans for the Autumn Equinox involve working on a patchwork quilt and watching Vox Machina. Excesses of debauchery it ain't.
@mothdreamsАй бұрын
I’m a queer, trans witch, too ✨ My Samhain plans are hanging out with my witchy friends, going to some shops (because they’re visiting from like 2 hours away), and do some tarot and baking and having tea
@AnonPanOn3 ай бұрын
The lore drop of Whitney and Demi doing ketamine together shocked the absolute hell out of me. The mormons and their loopholes😰
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Yeah that was pretty shocking lol
@MsMere783 ай бұрын
The place I get Botox has never offered me laughing gas. I feel left out.
@music541863 ай бұрын
Such a good coverage of the show! Adore you both! Thank you for being a good influence ❤ I love the way you call out religious bull****. Always a good time when you post a video 💕
@sarahpinansky25423 ай бұрын
For 100k subscribers you should both SWAP hair. Jordan goes lighter with waves, McKay goes redder with a smoother blow out.
@Gurkhyvel3 ай бұрын
Don’t know about you guys but I always have a forklift in my bedroom
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
We can only get off with machines that you wouldn’t be able to operate while taking Ambien.
@ka85443 ай бұрын
Did Jen and Taylor say they DIDNT want to go to the show?? I don’t remember them saying whether or not they wanted to go to the show, I remember them saying they can’t go because of their husbands freaking out and not trusting them.
@malloryrosales19742 ай бұрын
Somebody on tiktok said Whitney is like Hillie in The Help movie and I can't unsee it lmao
@sokaarzola3 ай бұрын
Getting the whole context thanks to your experiences it's so interesnting, thank you for your videos. Found your channel a couple of month ago & I enjoy watching you a lot 😊 nothing but good vibes from Mexico ✨✨✨✨
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Salutes a ti, compañera!
@allyssathe1st3 ай бұрын
You can just FEEL how fed up Jordan was at the beginning of the video 🤣
@LibraInSeattle28 күн бұрын
As a former Southern Baptist, I am always surprised how similar my youth seems to have been to that of someone who grew up Mormon. Purity culture was constantly shoved down my throat. We were encouraged not to wear pants and we were taught the man is the head of the household. Sex was for procreation only. God is always watching. I could go on but you get the idea. My aunt married a Mormon man and converted to be with him. They had 6 children. My aunt had MS and she was wheelchair bound from her early 40’s until she passed away at age 60. For reasons that I can’t get into my dad and mom didn’t like my Uncle. I honestly don’t remember him as he was never there when we got together. He avoided my family.
@zeemackin3 ай бұрын
Great episode, thank you so much!! It got me through my weekly meal prep & making my cat’s food 🥰
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Yummy food for the kitty (and you)!
@monicaniblett96513 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for addressing the bi-erasure!!!
@VS-fo9py3 ай бұрын
🍿 waiting for this! 👀
@AprilBytheBay3 ай бұрын
If you dye your hair McKay, you should have Kazoo pick the color! I know that I would love giving little dude the choice
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Green hair, here I come
@tamaraziz78133 ай бұрын
At the end McKay said we love you and my heart jumped and I thought awww I love you guys toooo❤ muawww 😘
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Love u say it back
@annikar76093 ай бұрын
omg i’m manifesting for u guys ethan was talking about watching ur guys channel when he said he’s been watching mormon content lately😂
@JordanandMcKay3 ай бұрын
Oh shiiiiiii
@JulieMarcum-zs1pz3 ай бұрын
I'm always so excited when y'all have a premier. It was great. Love y'all 🥰💛❤️
@Songsofourown233 ай бұрын
I was waiting for you guys to cover this. I didn't know anything about Swinging or Momtok before watching your KZbin channel.