EXCLUSIVE: Winter driving all Tesla cars in Alaskan snow | Sideways Included

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Күн бұрын

Electric cars are often perceived as terrible choices for winter driving. That reputation was only reinforced when the current wave of Tesla Model 3s got their first taste of the cold, resulting in a swath of complaints about frozen door handles and stuck windows. But is that reputation deserved? we traveled to Alaska to put every one of the company's current production machines through their paces on snow and ice -- and have some fun while we were at it. Read more on our trip to Alaska - roadshow.co/Z4...
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@roadshowautos
@roadshowautos 5 жыл бұрын
We are hosting an AMA on Reddit at 1pm EST today. Ask Tim Stevens all your Tesla Qs! roadshow.co/GdvMlf
@acchaladka
@acchaladka 5 жыл бұрын
Roadshow I don’t reddit or twit, so will ask here and hope for the best: How come you didn’t mention or talk tires in this testing? Did all cars have the same tire? Were they high quality winter tires or what most USians use, bad quality 3-season tires?
@brantwedel
@brantwedel 5 жыл бұрын
@@acchaladka Ha, in pure powder with no chance of any grip, not sure it matters much, as long as they have some tread / aren't slicks ;-p
5 жыл бұрын
@@acchaladka apparently they used Pirelli Sottozero for all the cars
@acchaladka
@acchaladka 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it.
@roadshowautos
@roadshowautos 5 жыл бұрын
All the cars were on Pirelli Winter SottoZeros
@KillroyX99
@KillroyX99 5 жыл бұрын
Tesla's don't have a bad reputation for cold weather. Teslas are popular in Norway, and other northern counties.
@TopiasSalakka
@TopiasSalakka 5 жыл бұрын
They're not very popular in Finland due to high price and lack of incentives.
@KillroyX99
@KillroyX99 5 жыл бұрын
@@TopiasSalakka, Tesla is Selling the $US 35,000 starting Model 3 all over the world now and the Model 3 is the #1 selling EV and #15 model in Finland in March.
@TopiasSalakka
@TopiasSalakka 5 жыл бұрын
@@KillroyX99 The Model 3 is $67k in Finland though, due to import taxes and other fees.
@KillroyX99
@KillroyX99 5 жыл бұрын
Topias Salakka , look out for the lower price Tesla. It sounds like sales will go even higher than March despite Finland high taxes.
@lokruth9769
@lokruth9769 5 жыл бұрын
Yea in the big cities where they are alway keeping them plugged in over night and/or in a garage. Its not poor people in norway who are driving teslas
@LiamTronix
@LiamTronix 4 жыл бұрын
2:09 A 30% grade is not 30º. Percentage grade is "rise over run" so the inverse-tangent of that gives you the angle in degrees, and atan(0.3) is 16.7º.
@bikelife_aey8182
@bikelife_aey8182 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn an actual intellectual
@dkrovo9133
@dkrovo9133 Жыл бұрын
So more like a roof pitch than. So for example like a roof with a 6/12 pitch for ever foot you go straight you rise 6 inches per foot
@Drspeiser
@Drspeiser Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I had my doubts about that!
@TerjeMathisen
@TerjeMathisen 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Norwegian and I have owned and driven cars for over 40 years now: Yes, EVs do lose a bit of range in winter, but not nearly as much as what you lose from a really wet/slushy road, you just need to preheat the car & battery (preferably with the charging cable connected) before you start up in the morning. My S70D is far and away the best winter car I have ever driven, it is even better than any of the 4x4 vehicles I drove during my military service. Just last night in Oslo, in the middle of what would have been called a snow storm when I lived in Utah, I was coming out of a tunnel and into a tight turn when I suddenly lost all grip (I use metal-studded Nokian Hakkas) and for a few tenths of a second, as my old driving reflexes were trying to recover, I knew I was going to hit the concrete barrier sideways, but then the car got back grip on all wheels and I could just drive on. :-)
@Newzchspy
@Newzchspy 5 жыл бұрын
Terje Mathisen the car didn't get grip. The tyres got grip. Tires are only point of contact between car and ground. Hakkas are great tyres. Use them extensively w/o studs and never an issue. Vredstein are great tyres too.
@refusoagaino6824
@refusoagaino6824 5 жыл бұрын
@@Newzchspy Good tires are a requirement but the car found the power setting that re-established traction, almost instantly and depending on one motor or two, on different axles independently. No ICE car can do that regardless of tires.
@isaidholla4088
@isaidholla4088 5 жыл бұрын
Last winter in Minnesota my friend gave me a ride in his rwd model 3. We were doing about 65 when the car skidded sideways and without my friend touching the wheel or pedals the cars autopilot regained control and centered us back in the lane.
@acchaladka
@acchaladka 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, glad you’re okay and thanks for the story from here in the Canada.
@privateerburrows
@privateerburrows 4 жыл бұрын
Another thankful Canadian here; I ordered a Cybertruck after the unveiling, but I WAS worried about winters. Not anymore.
@DiggyJay
@DiggyJay 5 жыл бұрын
As a former Audi quattro driver switched to Tesla, I feel I can truly say: this Tesla winter testdrive is what was missing on KZbin for a long time. Thanks so much, I really enjoyed it! Keep up the good work!
@betogameplaysgb937
@betogameplaysgb937 4 жыл бұрын
now put a tesla on a rally stage lol
@frodev728
@frodev728 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who’s driven Subarus with limited slip differentials for the last 10 years, that hill climb was very impressive.
@Mp57navy
@Mp57navy 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who drives Toyotas with manual diff locks, that climb made me yawn.
@user-jt6xh2ln9z
@user-jt6xh2ln9z 4 жыл бұрын
Toy-joda you know this was with ice on the hill, right? Not just some dry ass desert rocks
@matthewschiebout7384
@matthewschiebout7384 4 жыл бұрын
you'd be surprised by my Ford Focus with snow tires too then!
@matthewschiebout7384
@matthewschiebout7384 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-jt6xh2ln9z so this Tesla was tested on "some dry ass rocks" too? Hope the battery didn't get punctured!
@LORDRA1DEN
@LORDRA1DEN 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-jt6xh2ln9z Pretty sure my 09 Rav4 V6 could get up that hill with no problem. I've never gotten stuck yet and I live in New England.
@jnrivers
@jnrivers 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone evaluates the Tesla AWD system in proper conditions. Thanks.
@matthewschiebout7384
@matthewschiebout7384 4 жыл бұрын
no press events have ever "properly" tested a thing. Try driving around Alaska for the week, hit all the major cities, including Juneau via the ferry, then tell us about the car. In the winter, of course.
@JimHenry2
@JimHenry2 5 жыл бұрын
30 degrees is not the same as 30%
@howdydutt1e
@howdydutt1e 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment. 30 degrees is 60 % grade lol. This also bothered me.
@keyhere
@keyhere 5 жыл бұрын
30% grade is 16.7 degrees :)
@ankitsen1998
@ankitsen1998 3 жыл бұрын
Man he doesn't know about science he from literature background.
@dezirdtuzurnaim
@dezirdtuzurnaim 5 жыл бұрын
All negative press aside, Tesla really deserves a lot of credit. Not only are they a NEW auto maker, but contending against the 'Big 3' here in the States is no easy feat. I have no doubts they will only continue to get better with age and even have the potential of being a predominate player in the global market.
@no_alias_for_me
@no_alias_for_me 5 жыл бұрын
I agree on that. At times it looked really bad for Tesla but Musk did manage to keep his company going despite literally all media doubted him. I'm going to buy a new car in 2019 and I seriously consider a Tesla to be my next car.
@no_alias_for_me
@no_alias_for_me 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArtLightstone Thanks for that comment. People around me try to keep me away from buying an EV so reading comments like yours really help to decide.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 5 жыл бұрын
actually it is harder for the big three to compete against them without energy credits and $7500 tax credits on the hood, and tons of union employees and a inventory of gas cars they must service sell and repair, in addition to trying to develop new electric cars without a super charger networks and the governments of the world planning to outright ban their cars in many areas and adding extra fees and taxew else wheree. So make sure to give credit to gas car companies who have developed and sold slow selling hybrids and now most also develop and sell electric vehicles with everyone saying tesla is the best everybody else is trash, while at the same time honoring your gas car customers, and keeping your workers employed with a job at the factory dealership and service bay. and local gas station.
@brucepulver8358
@brucepulver8358 5 жыл бұрын
Electric vehicles accounted for 39 percent of Norway's new car sales, 2018. Mmmm Let us think will an EV work in cold weather???????? Bad premise, But a great video!. would love to see Model 3 in Australian outback dirt racing......
@brucepulver8358
@brucepulver8358 5 жыл бұрын
@Real M and that make EV's work in cold weather?!?!?! I can not think of a better way to spend all that oil money USA give them! Buy Tesla's?
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith 5 жыл бұрын
​@Real M They don't pay half the price, they wave most of the import and luxury taxes. They are, in general, wealthy enough to buy whichever car works best for them, and in a country that straddles the arctic circle, they choose Tesla. EVs can work in very cold weather...
@Shmubek
@Shmubek 5 жыл бұрын
We will see how all these teslas gonna survive those harsh salty winters after 10 years.
@abrahkadabra9501
@abrahkadabra9501 5 жыл бұрын
Norway has a generous tax credit for anyone buying an EV and invested a lot into EV charging stations. Canada does not have as generous a tax credit and winters in some parts of the country very cold in winter, add to that the longer distances Canadians have drive. Tesla has not made a big dent in Canada's EV market...go figure.
@MyTrevonne
@MyTrevonne 5 жыл бұрын
I love my fellow Americans, but you'll hear the stupidest stuff justifying the dumb stuff we love. This video premise is fine for or market
@mabeast502
@mabeast502 5 жыл бұрын
That slow motion drifting 😫 Simply BEAUTIFUL!
@adamfink5294
@adamfink5294 5 жыл бұрын
@2:09 No, not 30 degrees, 30% (according to the sign). A 30% slope is ~16.7 degrees.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 5 жыл бұрын
thanks
@josev1544
@josev1544 5 жыл бұрын
your math is correct but i believe the sign to be wrong. that looked like a 30 degree incline.
@martynsarfas9443
@martynsarfas9443 4 жыл бұрын
the sheer satisfaction of watching the snow come out from the tires is enough to make me happy
@DouglasJMark
@DouglasJMark 5 жыл бұрын
Next stop for Tesla, FIA World Rally Championships
@N7492
@N7492 5 жыл бұрын
A 30% slope is 30' elevation per 100' forwards. This works out to a 16.7 degree slope. It's an inverse tangent...
@G3ForceX
@G3ForceX 5 жыл бұрын
How does an automotive journalist not know this?
@MindRiderFPV
@MindRiderFPV 5 жыл бұрын
N7492 you need to switch to metric. 30 meters elevation in 100 m distance...
@N7492
@N7492 5 жыл бұрын
PowWolf Rider PowWolf Rider: Of course, you're correct (additional credit: what difference does 30 / 100 make? The unit cancel!). Two questions, however. 1) What 2 countries, aside from the US don't use the metric system. 2) Who is the first US president who signed legislation encouraging US industry to adopt the metric system.
@N7492
@N7492 5 жыл бұрын
If you can't handle math, you have to major in "the humanities" Thus, "automotive journalist". (FWIW) Ed Witten majored in the humanities!!
@nicosmind3
@nicosmind3 5 жыл бұрын
@@N7492 Ed Witten majored in humanities!? Now thats a shock. I bet the vast majority of people havent a clue who he is. To my knowledge hes the man who unified string theory and called it M-theory. A very impressive feat.
@disciprine
@disciprine 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Tesla Ad. As a performance 3 owner I don't feel this answered many of the actual practicality questions regarding cold weather criticisms
@disciprine
@disciprine 5 жыл бұрын
@@cbenson513 I don't think anyone ever questioned Tesla's traction and stability control capabilities though
@pascalabessolo5350
@pascalabessolo5350 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasenrock From Montreal, Quebec, Canada No you dont need a garage. A car "Tent" will suffice. You only need to charge the car right up until you leave. With the heater on 30 minutes before leaving. The model 3 heat the battery while heating the cabine and with 60A power source, you have plenty of juice to finish charging. And when rolling, use less heater and more heated seat. The range loss is less. I know, I do it every night. I have a model 3 AWD LR. Fun fact: I am seeing more and more model 3 around here in Quebec.. Nice
@spedracer55
@spedracer55 5 жыл бұрын
its a car itll fine these teslas have been out since 2013
@Joseph1NJ
@Joseph1NJ 5 жыл бұрын
Those with a garage are a small minority.
@Newzchspy
@Newzchspy 5 жыл бұрын
roguenode pfft, that's the short list. Try seat heaters sucking amps , failure to defrost cars left outside, insufficient heat to clear Windows, door handles sticking, clearly, an ICE vehicle has it beat for winter use at this point. That may change as technology advances.
@ahmicm23
@ahmicm23 5 жыл бұрын
That smile on the face when traction control : OFF...PRICELESS!!! :)
@AsianNationGaming99
@AsianNationGaming99 5 жыл бұрын
Guys do not be humble Roadshow, this episode with Tim Stevens was beautifully shot, a good time, and incredibly informative. Good start to the year!
@hunati31
@hunati31 5 жыл бұрын
You are right, so some people will not like it no matter how good it is. There a millions of people who would crucify Jesus again.
@timothygray4643
@timothygray4643 5 жыл бұрын
So he started the video by saying that ev suck because the cold weather kills the battery life. And in the video he’s playing in the snow. I’m confused to what he was trying to prove.
@Abubakrhassan
@Abubakrhassan 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was waiting for him to quanify the effects of cold weather on range and other stuff but he never did, what a missed opportunity.
@keco185
@keco185 5 жыл бұрын
Cold doesn’t kill the range, running the heater does. What he’s saying is that a California car company can still make cars that perform well in the snow despite the range deficit. TBH range isn’t really an issue when it’s snowing unless you plan on driving 300+ miles in the snow without stopping.
@naucha
@naucha 5 жыл бұрын
@@keco185 The cold DOES reduce the charge of batteries period.
@kruemelfelix
@kruemelfelix 5 жыл бұрын
@@naucha Not really noticable in this huge battery packs. Maximum like 1% or less
@keco185
@keco185 5 жыл бұрын
naucha the cold reduces how quickly the battery can be charged. Not the range
@bikesqump
@bikesqump 5 жыл бұрын
the weight of the battery actually helps, like a few bags of sand in the back of a pickup, except it's a LOOOOT of bags of sand! My RWD 3 rocked in a blizzard in NJ a few weeks ago, performed along with those big fat mercs and bimer SUVs and AWESOME FOOTAGE, beautiful!!!
@ballwizz23
@ballwizz23 5 жыл бұрын
He says the hill is 30 degrees while showing a 30% sign. But 30 degrees is actually steeper than 30%. Impressive technology.
@SAnthonySays
@SAnthonySays 5 жыл бұрын
**orders a Tesla AND a snowmaking machine** 👍🏿😂😁
@Aikaramba12
@Aikaramba12 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla and Subaru have the best AWD systems out there. I've owned pretty much everything. Currently own a Model 3 and an outback
@viktorstorelv
@viktorstorelv 2 жыл бұрын
Just need a bit more ground clearance. 14cm is not enough :( at least not here in Finnmark. I would Want maybe 17-18 for those snowy days. I already plow snow with my CR-V with 18,5cm clearance.
@Aikaramba12
@Aikaramba12 2 жыл бұрын
@@viktorstorelv model X has 18cm ground clearance tho
@viktorstorelv
@viktorstorelv 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aikaramba12 kinda different price-range aswell.
@Prince-fr2lr
@Prince-fr2lr 5 жыл бұрын
That drift in the model 3 at 1:17 was just epic
@summertyme5748
@summertyme5748 5 жыл бұрын
The skinny is simply that combustion engines are heat engines - and the heat is free. Electric ‘motors’, make kinetic energy - ie motion- more efficiently. However the downside is that the heat isn’t free. Having said that, there are some ways in which electric engines are superior in the cold. You can sit in a snow storm with your electric engine on - you can’t legally do that with an ice car - as a snow and ice clogged exhaust on an idling car could kill you from carbon monoxide poisoning. Also you can happily keep your electric car warm all winter night - as long as it’s plugged in. When you’re ready to go to work in the morning - you have a warm car and a full charge. Try that in a gas car.
@TopiasSalakka
@TopiasSalakka 5 жыл бұрын
You can plug your gasoline/diesel car in and have a warm car for your work trip.
@MsSomeonenew
@MsSomeonenew 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the heat is free... if you ignore the 70% of fuel that you are throwing away to get "free" heat.
@summertyme5748
@summertyme5748 5 жыл бұрын
MsSomeonenew : Exactly. A combustion engine is a heat engine primarily - it is only a ‘motor’ as a side effect.
@babybirdhome
@babybirdhome 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was going to say... I used to deliver pizza in a car that got about 24 MPG... That heat was anything but free! A free byproduct, yes, but that's not the same thing as free.
@Newzchspy
@Newzchspy 5 жыл бұрын
More accurate to say the heat is a byproduct ( and benefit) of the ICE engine, not a freebie. There's a cost, that being diesel or gas. Tesla needs to specifically address the needs of winter driving in northern climes. Preheating uses a LOT of power and reduces vehicle range dramatically. 30% is more accurate than 10%.
@dyrectory_com
@dyrectory_com 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching cars in snow courses - and did video did not fail! Who needs a Sunday drive on a clean stretch of road when you can have fun in the snow!
@mohammadzohorul8887
@mohammadzohorul8887 5 жыл бұрын
Electric cars have more potential for fun than gasoline cars.
@roadshowautos
@roadshowautos 5 жыл бұрын
Many would agree the loss of engine sound is a turnoff.
@MinhasA
@MinhasA 5 жыл бұрын
Hydrogen cars
@wilmotown
@wilmotown 5 жыл бұрын
Gasoline cars probably have more of an enduring fun factor. In cold weather or hard use, range gets shorter. With a gas vehicle you can just fill the tank again and get back out there, whereas with an electric car the time it’ll take to charge back up is definitely going to be longer than the time it takes the brakes to cool. But electric cars are definitely a riot.
@mohammadzohorul8887
@mohammadzohorul8887 5 жыл бұрын
@@wilmotown I agree with you. But I would use that charging time to take rest and eat.
@sadmanh0
@sadmanh0 5 жыл бұрын
@@MinhasA there's no such thing as 'hydrogen cars', they're just electric cars which use a hydrogen 'generator' for electricity instead of just storing that in batteries; you might as well use the hydrogen to produce electricity at the charging station.
@MaazJilani
@MaazJilani 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. We just got back from big bear using the model X in a lot of snow. Handled like a beast.
@davidlackner3792
@davidlackner3792 3 жыл бұрын
Snow tires necessary?
@MICHGO1
@MICHGO1 5 жыл бұрын
THE DANCE MUSIC DRONING ON WHILE PEOPLE ARE TALKING IS LIKE A MOSQUITO BUZZING IN YOUR EAR.
@colinbickford6017
@colinbickford6017 4 жыл бұрын
As I see the car go sideways for some reason I hear voices in my head screaming “WEEEEEEE”
@privateerburrows
@privateerburrows 4 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary video! I live in Canada, and I ordered a Cybertruck after the unveiling; but I was very worried about driving it in winter. Not anymore! I had NO IDEA that Teslas would be better than any other car on snow and ice.
@carlknott1081
@carlknott1081 5 жыл бұрын
You just can't beat the fast response and feedback of an EV for stability/traction contols and torque vetoring. Tesla has the best implementation of them all.
@-Rambi-
@-Rambi- 5 жыл бұрын
Ehm.. You know how many Teslas we have her in Norway? Snow and cold isn't a problem.
@chrisc1140
@chrisc1140 5 жыл бұрын
Was NOT expecting a Monty Python reference in the middle of a Tesla video XD
@techboy95
@techboy95 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Now I know anyone who lives in an environment where it snows a lot should just opt for awd but I really wish they would have given you a rwd model to test as well. I have a rwd long range model 3 myself(which isn't sold anymore)
@bengie11355
@bengie11355 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, the Model 3 took those turns flawlessly.
@GeraltBosMang
@GeraltBosMang 5 жыл бұрын
Drifting in the snow looks so cool.
@kuplayfordvalls6781
@kuplayfordvalls6781 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would have liked to know how does the cold affect the range in real life driving situations...
@chrism7966
@chrism7966 5 жыл бұрын
Love my Tesla! It does great In the snow in ND!
@kutsen39
@kutsen39 4 жыл бұрын
Haha which one did you get? Never thought I'd see a Dakotan in comments of a video. I want a Tesla sooo bad but I don't have the money
@juancitofelic
@juancitofelic 5 жыл бұрын
please, I need a real world winter testing of course. That would be interesting.
@WANDERER0070
@WANDERER0070 5 жыл бұрын
See Bjorn Nyland channel he lives in Norway
@d_i_g_i_t_a_l_p_r_i_m_e5617
@d_i_g_i_t_a_l_p_r_i_m_e5617 8 ай бұрын
I lost it at “if a Moose threatened to bite your sister”😂😂😂
@Major_Mason
@Major_Mason 5 жыл бұрын
If you have a garage then you are fine range wise. The batteries are tanks and for good reason. Also the Tesla ballet was beautiful 😍
@funny-video-YouTube-channel
@funny-video-YouTube-channel 5 жыл бұрын
*Nice car. Good for safety.* The helmet of the test driver was a bit too thin :-) He had a lot of trust with this car.
@evanfinch4987
@evanfinch4987 3 жыл бұрын
excuse me?
@descb600f
@descb600f 5 жыл бұрын
Too many comments to see them all but I'd like to see this with the Model 3 RWD
@AnthonyWestkc
@AnthonyWestkc 5 жыл бұрын
This actually looked super fun!
@foam27
@foam27 5 жыл бұрын
Not as cold as Bjorn Nyland ;)
@azera55555
@azera55555 5 жыл бұрын
lol Norway isn't cold enough, wish it was as cold as AK
@straight_intro
@straight_intro 5 жыл бұрын
@@azera55555 30 Celcius below zero isnt enough cold enough for you?
@azera55555
@azera55555 5 жыл бұрын
It very rarely gets that cold there. Look at Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim, Tromso, they're all extremely mild and hover around 2 to -15 degrees normally
@richardpetek712
@richardpetek712 5 жыл бұрын
But it was cool :)
@sweiland75
@sweiland75 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone becomes a Tesla fan, after they've driven one.
@blackhatter011
@blackhatter011 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, not even close.
@paulbarton957
@paulbarton957 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, seems that way
@AS-ln3pl
@AS-ln3pl 5 жыл бұрын
Until they deliver their car for service. Trust me, I speak from experience.
@tonys9413
@tonys9413 5 жыл бұрын
“Everyone “? You idiot!
@xaxcx3x
@xaxcx3x 4 жыл бұрын
sweiland75 it’s either you’re and ios or an android.
@kirilclicks
@kirilclicks 5 жыл бұрын
FYI, Teslas are notorious for performing well in snow/slippery conditions... No clue where you heard they don't. Just the fact that Norway is so big on buying Teslas since day 1 should tell you that... Please, do better research.
@jojodroid31
@jojodroid31 5 жыл бұрын
Not only Teslas, EV in particular
@dylanjames4706
@dylanjames4706 5 жыл бұрын
You’re not even allowed to buy a Tesla in Michigan
@timl5970
@timl5970 5 жыл бұрын
That's not because of the cold. It's because the nanny-state legislators in several states, including Michigan, have passed legislation to protect the car dealers and their business model by prohibiting the manufacturers from selling directly to the public.
@peterhubek
@peterhubek 5 жыл бұрын
It's the nature of electric motors. The torque controll is harder than with ic engines. Some older evs don't even have the torque controll system so there is maximum torque available in the lowest rpm range.
@babybirdhome
@babybirdhome 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Húbek false. Torque control is far easier with electric motors than with gas engines. They use the exact same control systems, but electric motors respond to changes in torque input at nearly the speed of light, where gas engines can only respond at half the RPM of the engine. Electric cars are significantly better in slippery conditions than gas powered cars are. And it has been illegal to sell any cars in the United States without traction control and skid control for nearly twenty years now, so that argument has never applied to any commercially mass produced electric car made since the adoption of lithium batteries.
@arti22live
@arti22live 5 жыл бұрын
just amazing...setting the bar real high
@ronarnott1801
@ronarnott1801 5 жыл бұрын
I am real curious what your Tesla Model 3 experience would be at that same location doing the same test driving with just the one motor in the rear
@59alibaba59
@59alibaba59 4 жыл бұрын
Why is it that they never tell you just the facts like how much power and battery life is lost in extreme cold or heat? And by the way what do you do when you run out of juice in the middle of nowhere?
@therealderjett
@therealderjett 5 жыл бұрын
What tires are they using for the test? The tire makes a huge difference in this kind of weather and road conditions. Are these tests with all season tires like they sell or are these tests with proper winter tires?
@rkan2
@rkan2 5 жыл бұрын
For the S and X they seemed like studless winter tires based on tread pattern, but all seasons on the 3… hmm
@andguent
@andguent 5 жыл бұрын
This was asked on the Reddit ama. See link above.
@JoneKone
@JoneKone 5 жыл бұрын
This is what I would like to know 2, so apparently Pirelli Winter SottoZeros
@Legominder
@Legominder 5 жыл бұрын
8:34 this is so beautiful seen philosophically. A glass sphere moving you around. Stunning footage. And interesting points on the Model 3 AWD being such a pioneer there besides its very different main goals.
@azcojpg
@azcojpg 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and it looked like a lot of fun. I live in Arizona and haven't go up to the snow but great to know it will handle anything with ease..
@ebut0oy
@ebut0oy 5 жыл бұрын
1:05 probably the most beautiful shot I've ever seen....
@timo1383
@timo1383 4 жыл бұрын
I learned snow drifting in the late 90s with a "no security tech" late 80s VW car by drifting in the streets of my home town in good ol Germany ;) Damn it was so much fun.
@beWorldly
@beWorldly 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I subbed. You know what would be totally amazing? a side by side of Model 3 in dirt/snow vs a subaru WRX!
@snowrocket
@snowrocket 5 жыл бұрын
AND put them both on the same make and model of tire. That way you're seeing the real difference in the cars themselves. I will predict the nose-heavy WRX would have more difficulty with turn-in to the corners unless flicked rally-style. After turn-in, they would be similar, although the manual tranny WRX tends to do some odd back and forth torque transfer through it's viscous center diff.
@markb5373
@markb5373 4 жыл бұрын
for the ones who still can't really watch their Sentry mode footage, I like to use SentryPlayer, google it up and you should find it..
@DBronk22
@DBronk22 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Alaska for 95 percent of my life and now moved to Wisconsin, cool to see u do a vid there
@needleonthevinyl
@needleonthevinyl 5 жыл бұрын
3:40 this is why Jeep Wranglers completely wear out the rear brake pads over the course of a winter in northern regions. Also, thanks for making this video with all the cars using Sottozeros instead of the factory Goodyear or Michelin all-seasons and saying the cars are bad on snow.
@NotElonsShow
@NotElonsShow 5 жыл бұрын
Why was the sign in Russian?
@qqleq
@qqleq 5 жыл бұрын
To stop Russians. ;)
@punnequraq
@punnequraq 5 жыл бұрын
There is a high Russian population in central and southwest areas of Alaska, due to the previous Russian occupation.
@dimapro
@dimapro 5 жыл бұрын
@@punnequraq Occupation? You mean ownership of Alaska :)
@matt99993
@matt99993 5 жыл бұрын
I live here and yes like half the town is Russian/Ukrainian.
@jamesjordanjr6175
@jamesjordanjr6175 5 жыл бұрын
You can see Russia from there
@mohammedrahman3447
@mohammedrahman3447 5 жыл бұрын
First this wasn't really real world winter driving and secondly you didn't mention the tires being used. It just seems you went there to have fun in a Tesla in the snow.
@lolhereinohio
@lolhereinohio 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and answering my concerns.
@Jcewazhere
@Jcewazhere 5 жыл бұрын
I would love it if you compared Tesla to Subaru. An Imprezza, WRX and Crosstrek vs 3, S and X .
@danielhermanus6909
@danielhermanus6909 5 жыл бұрын
Has anyone already cut his voice and cut a nice spec out of the really good footage they got here? Link please.
@JRCarReviews
@JRCarReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Is the model 3 white or silver color? Because there isn’t silver in configurator and it looks so god!
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 5 жыл бұрын
he avoided the range question...just showed it sliding. Didn't show the huge generator truck following him.
@matthewgao7416
@matthewgao7416 5 жыл бұрын
Said in beginning that up to 30% of range is lost in cold weather so there you go I guess
@EugeneLeeCMI
@EugeneLeeCMI 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know what tires were on the Model 3 Performance? It comes with summer tires and I'm wondering if those were the tires on there?
@goclunker
@goclunker 5 жыл бұрын
A differential is there so that when you turn, the outer wheel can spin faster than the inner wheel. Its not there to transfer power, its there to not make you drift around every corner....
@nelsonc6173
@nelsonc6173 5 жыл бұрын
Wow one the best shot Roadshow videos! Very cool! You guys really made some beautiful shots here! The cars look brilliant against some beautiful backdrops! I love Tesla and and have been following them since there inception and am used to not hearing the roar of the engine from them! But for some reason it was weird not heaing anything as you guys were throttling these cars! LOL! Cool driving and keep up with the great Vids!!!
@coldforgedcowboy
@coldforgedcowboy 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with Lithium Ion batteries is there chemistry slows down once things get below 0C. What Telsa needs to make their cars operate well in northern cold climates is a gas turbine range extender like Delta Motorsport (MiTRE).
@Rahimkhan-zt8cp
@Rahimkhan-zt8cp 5 жыл бұрын
This video was great please make more hands on videos👍
@wilmotown
@wilmotown 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, you certainly got my idea of a dream day! Cold weather, snowy driving? A New England gearhead’s dream! Cool video.
@mr88cet
@mr88cet 5 жыл бұрын
Cool! I guess I’m an old geezer though: I’ll keep all the traction control on, thanks!
@wordreet
@wordreet 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, can't wait to see the first Tesla WRC competing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@hunati31
@hunati31 5 жыл бұрын
Good footage. Now I am reconsidering for a Model 3 over Model S. May sound silly but it sure looks like a lot of fun in a smaller package.
@graciescottsdale
@graciescottsdale 3 жыл бұрын
You sacrifice some other bells and whistles.
@solussd
@solussd 5 жыл бұрын
What tires were on the Model 3 Performance in this video?
@philipcooper8297
@philipcooper8297 5 жыл бұрын
4:37 You let go of the accelerator, that's what transfered the momentum.
@joekim4345
@joekim4345 5 жыл бұрын
Finally a decent review by roadshow.
@Theendlessriver77
@Theendlessriver77 2 жыл бұрын
I have the MYP and bought the Tesla winter wheels and tires. I have lived in Wisconsin my whole life and have a lot of experience driving on crappy roads and it still handles HORRIBLY in the winter. The ass end slews all over and I’m surprised I haven’t been in the ditch yet. I drive in chill mode even because I thought it would help but it hasn’t.
@Oneonthehill
@Oneonthehill 2 жыл бұрын
Same issue here! Which tires are you using and which model do you have?
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 5 жыл бұрын
"A moose jumped out at you, and threatened to bite your sister"...Do...Do you have a story for us, Tim?
@ABC-yt1nq
@ABC-yt1nq 5 жыл бұрын
From the opening credits of Monty Python and the Holy Grail - watch them and you'll understand
@MICHGO1
@MICHGO1 5 жыл бұрын
@@ABC-yt1nq I GUESS TO GET ELON'S/TIM'S HUMOR YOU HAVE TO WATCH MONTY PYTHON AND SPACE BALLS.
@PoeRacing
@PoeRacing 4 жыл бұрын
@@MICHGO1 And rear Iain Banks "Culture" series of novels.
@ronb4633
@ronb4633 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, very informative and entertaining. I was watching Porsche Taycan videos of ice drifting and other tests they ran but could not find any test videos for Tesla. I am so happy to see this one here.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 5 жыл бұрын
did you test the drop in range, which is quoted at 30-50%, and the time it takes to warm up?
@snowrocket
@snowrocket 3 жыл бұрын
While I AM curious about how the AWD Teslas go and handle in snow, the loss of range is VERY important to know. The good thing is that while on the plug (charging), you can warm the interior before driving without sacrificing range. One of the big problems in the cold is the increased battery drain while parked and unused. From everything I've read and heard, Tesla designed their cars to keep the battery pack at a constant 70 degrees Fahrenheit for greatest range and durability. When not charging, the car will use it's battery pack to warm or cool the batteries as needed. In cold weather, it has to work much harder to do so.
@Newzchspy
@Newzchspy 5 жыл бұрын
Bump for update: with the recent polar vortex in the Midwest and out east, Tesla and other BEV owners are reporting on average 40-50 % range reduction when it's cold. What's doing it? Two things primarily: Battery heater ( about 12%) and cabin heater and /or seat heaters 30-40% . Add them together and you're at or near 50% cold weather range reduction. So, if you're on high cabin heat and max bacon seat heat and start out with 250 mile range. You can bet that range will be 1/2 that once you start driving. kWh/mile is running 600-700 in the frigid weather. Seems like it's even worse than the summertime A/C use.
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 5 жыл бұрын
Summertime A/C us has negligible effect on range. And most people drive 30 miles a day to work, so even losing 50% range (realistic closer to 30%), still gives people over 150 miles of driving range before needing to charge it.
@superdan5617
@superdan5617 5 жыл бұрын
So, what was the actual effect on range?
@craigmerkey8518
@craigmerkey8518 5 жыл бұрын
cool video... real driving thought and planning... after driving in hazardous winter conditions for about 20 years... I am always amused now that I live in So. CA, where a little fog or stopped car is a will backing up traffic for miles!!
@triot2127
@triot2127 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for more EV's but some day when they hit the used market sub $10k. I'm just not going in to debt this early in the game.
@pioneer7777777
@pioneer7777777 5 жыл бұрын
For now, LEAFs, 500e's and i-MiEV's are the only sub $10k EV's. I think a Tesla may never get that low because the battery/motor itself is going to be worth more than that just in scrap value.
@Coltn3125
@Coltn3125 5 жыл бұрын
@@pioneer7777777 Just what I was going to say lol
@icefishing804
@icefishing804 5 жыл бұрын
In waiting for Tesla truck
@Coltn3125
@Coltn3125 5 жыл бұрын
@@icefishing804 Ya I want one too but if it is built like the concept photo. I won't be buying it. As I need a proper box in the back to hold the stuff I haul.
@mrb9238
@mrb9238 4 жыл бұрын
Used teslas cost as much as the new ones and in some cases even cost more, hopefully in the future they will get cheaper but as of now they hold their value too well.
@bittewarten3783
@bittewarten3783 5 жыл бұрын
This looks like so much fun
@patrickc8190
@patrickc8190 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't mention how the heaters compared to a gas powered vehicle, how fast the battery drained. People that drive in winter need to know. Should have done a driving test in California with full battery and drive till battery was low and then the same in Alaska and see how far you can go till its low and compare.
@ASpec818
@ASpec818 5 жыл бұрын
that Model 3 P is beautiful
@a1imagecapture866
@a1imagecapture866 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool job on everything! Thanks for sharing
@kootenayevfamily4208
@kootenayevfamily4208 5 жыл бұрын
Well that was fun! I have a RWD... the stability control system will let the tail go out a bit which has been fun in the snow, but maybe not quite as fun as the performance model :P
@tiagotiagot
@tiagotiagot 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they might eventually add a full skid-steer mode where no matter if the weight is on the front or the rear wheels the car will still turn properly...
@johnglennie4282
@johnglennie4282 5 жыл бұрын
It's nice to promote the top Model 3, but I'd have rather seen, or perhaps in addition, the LR RWD Model 3.
@siamiam
@siamiam 5 жыл бұрын
when this was filmed the weather in the interior of alaska was some of the warmest its ever had , the majority of places up here do not have a garage and this past weeks temps have been hovering in the -40 range , how did these cars fare in those temps. if you dont have a heated garage how well will they do? electricity is around 26c kw an hour or 108% higher then the national average , what will it cost to keep them charged?
@getLocation
@getLocation 5 жыл бұрын
During cold winter, driving 200 miles will cost you around $16 or $17 (26c kwh)... In summer you can drive 290-300 miles for same amount of money. For comparison, driving 200 miles with new Subaru Legacy in winter will cost you $23 to $27. This calculations are based on Model 3 with long range battery.
@babybirdhome
@babybirdhome 5 жыл бұрын
How much does a gallon of gas cost up there out of curiosity?
@siamiam
@siamiam 5 жыл бұрын
@@babybirdhome filled up with 87 octane at 3.09 a few days ago , diesel was higher. highest octane fuel we can get is 90
@Newzchspy
@Newzchspy 5 жыл бұрын
siamiam wow, we're at 1.89 for regular 87 and 93 is hovering at about 2.30-2.40.
@siamiam
@siamiam 5 жыл бұрын
@@Newzchspy mail me some fuel lol you would think that a oil rich state that drills its own oil would have cheaper fuel
@Blacklightdtb
@Blacklightdtb 5 жыл бұрын
OH NO A MOOSE
@olamarvin
@olamarvin 5 жыл бұрын
"Hey Tesla driver! Your sister is looking mighty tasty..."
@punnequraq
@punnequraq 5 жыл бұрын
That’s actually a concern on the roads here. But most of the time, they stay to the sides of the roads.
@jamsbong
@jamsbong 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping there will be a comparison with a normal car on the snow test. What I can see on the Tesla cars are heavy and thus react quite slowly. No timed test, no slalom test.
@DougGrinbergs
@DougGrinbergs 5 жыл бұрын
As mentioned in the accompanying article, Tim's got a decade of ice driving experience that the average driver doesn't have...
@himmura
@himmura 5 жыл бұрын
That model 3 is absolutely gorgeous.
@stuartthomoson
@stuartthomoson Жыл бұрын
The thumb nail!🤣 litteraly read my mind 🤣
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