Exhaust Manifold bolts broke | Extracting bolts on my Cummins ISX-15 Kenworth W900L

[@pamelastewart8274]

Sammy,you say I’m not a mechanic. Your preventative maintenance says to me, you are. This level of work and understanding is what keeps you in business being a one truck show. HiYah

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

:) Thank you

[@sean7554]

That's sucks, having your studs break like that. Bad motor mounts will cause that to happen. So if you ever get a header leak for what seems like no reason. Odds are it's bad motor mounts. Oh, and you got balls. Your not afraid to mess stuff on your truck. I admire that, just had to compliment you. I watch a lot of Gordon Robertson on KZbin also. That guy fixes practically everything on his truck. Learned a lot from that guy.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I'll have to check him out. I love to watch folks do their own stuff and learn as I watch :)

[@Hillbilly_78]

Old Diesel mechanic here. Drill a pilot hole like you did through the stud. Throw your PB blaster away and fill stud hole with Kroil oil. Set a flanged nut on head surface. Weld inner part of nut to broke stud. She might come on out then. Also unhook the batteries and ECM before welding. Try to drill your hole as centered as you can next time. You can keep drilling stud until you just have the threads left in the bolt hole. Then take a punch and pick to get them out. Done this job many of times. Just be patient and she’ll come out. Good luck man. 👍

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Great advice :) Appreciate ya!!

[@mreff2379]

Just my 2 cents worth. I would coat all the manifold and turbo bolts with the high temp anti seize. Makes them a lot easier to get out next time.

[@bctw9004]

Damn Sammy... Makes me glad I’ve got a old 400 Big Cam. Super easy to work on.

[@pitbullgator]

Good afternoon Sammy Saying a prayer 🙏🙏🙏 for you and your truck... Hope you get everything fixed without to many issues . Getting broke off bolts can be a real pain in the Aaaaa..... take care brother and Praying the next video all is Well 🤠🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Appreciate ya PBG!

[@waynesworld2086]

Now since manifold is off u can buy a ceramic one so it runs cooler and give more psi to the turbo lol

[@MrKartman8]

waynes world yes it does I got one for my truck love it

[@timmay2k]

And get a bully dog billet aluminum turbo as well 😎

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I didn't even know that was an option lol

[@towbar1965]

Yes it is and a good one at that

[@davidscholl6988]

Sammy, a trick I learned a lot of years ago it to heat broken bolts and studs like the ones you have with a torch until they are red hot, then while it is cooling you put some beeswax on the broken bolt and you can actually see the wax pull into the threads. Then when you drill for an easy-out you have a lot higher success rate getting them out. The beeswax trick also works for welding the nut to the broken bolt. The trick is to concentrate all the heat into the fastener and not your precious casting around it. Good luck and GOD bless!

[@dougsigman4724]

David scholl good idea. I have heated stud red hot and let it completely cool 2 to 3 times. Every time it cools stud shrinks a little and breaks rust loose. Takes a little time though. 👍

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I did bring that up to my father in law and he thought it's a lil risky with the room we have on that head. But yes, he taught me the heat trick years ago, works wonders. Like the beeswax though, sucks in like brazing huh. Thats pretty cool. Great tip thank you!!

[@jth1699]

I have been turning wrenches for 40 years - always carry some candles in the tool box just for those pesky broken exhaust studs. Building out the bolt with the wire machine is better than drilling it - having the entire bolt to weld to makes for a stronger weld - I dont mess with a washer - just take it wire machine and put the wire the hole and give the trigger a quick pull - just build up the little shots till u have enough to sit ur nut on then weld inside ur nut... by the time ur ready to pulled it out you will probably be able to spin it out with ur fingers...

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Yes, it went pretty easy once we figured it out. Still used the washer though. I'll never drill one again after this job :)

[@christopherlegereit8160]

You said your not a mechanic, looks like your doing a hell of a good job...thanks for the video and tips..like the washer and nut.

[@jamesclee1722]

From my past in machine work I would find a left handed drill bit and use that before I started welding on the head and taking a chance on cracking it or a sleeve because you have drained the coolant

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I have them and didn't have any luck. Trust me, welding was my last resort lol

[@Notthisguyeither]

You're not going to crack a head or sleeve tack welding a washer and nut on a broken stud it's a great old trick that works really well when you have enough room to do it

[@guuledissa]

I respect you for trying to fix it yourself I know some guys who would of told you to get a overhaul lol

[@CheddarCheeseBandit]

Be careful with your electronics / computers when welding if you didn't already think about it. Great video I can't wait to see the next one!

[@abikerinpa]

If it was up to me and if I was spending your money ....I think I would replace that exhaust manifold with a ceramic one from an aftermarket company

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I didn't even know that was an option lol Now I'm regretting not knowing

[@semiretired6033]

WOW Sammy that's a lot of work. I am very mechanically inclined, i do a lot of my own repairs on my vehicles. I would not have ever taken on that job, its too time consuming and involved for my comfort zone to get into. But i do realize you need to save where you can when you running a trucking business.Hoping you get it all up and running soon.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

SEMIretired I’ve done this job before on my last truck. With that one (T660) I didn’t have the money to pay someone without talking a loan. So it made this time a easy choice 😂😂

[@garypierce7380]

My son is a Kenworth mechanic...he says they try drilling and extracting like you did and if that doesn't work right away they go to a kit where you drill a new hole, rethread, and screw in inserts that you then screw your normal bolts back into. It still takes a little knowhow to make sure the holes are drilled right. He says the bolts just shake around and break, not necessarily anything internal causing it.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

that's pretty cool knowing how they do that. Yes, the bolts breaking is a normal thing with the ISX's, not sure about other engines. My last truck did the same thing

[@nattydreadlocks1973]

Buy a small gas soldering torch for $25. Heat up around the outside of the hole. While the hole is cherry red, extract the broken stud.

[@Chill4life101]

Thanks for the video. I enjoy learning from experienced drivers like yourself. No mechanic but you know more then some of us and now we can all save some money. Slowly get some more tools and good to start tinkering around and teaching myself. Good video thanks. Look forward to more like this when time comes.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Randy appreciate it Randy. Yes, start slow and with small jobs and work your way up. Just like working ona car just bigger 😎👊

[@highwaymantrucking1235]

Got me jumping out to pay attention to mine right this second!

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

lol

[@capazontwo]

Yep I was thinking a welder, it will be interesting see how that turned out, the heat helps to loosen the broken bolts.

[@philfeldman2395]

My luck I would forget how to put it all back together

[@jjjr243]

Good job Sammy, helluva job!! All I could hear, and I can say is even tho I live in Cali I'm from Ringgold and I loved hearing those bugs chirping loud in the background!!!! 😂 Nice setup you got man wish you all the best thanks for sharing!

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Appreciate ya bro 👊 They were louder than that, I messed with the sound to drown them out some lol There’s no place like home 😎😎😎

[@rollinghillstrucking]

Might be better to just replace the oil pan. It probably going to keep cracking brother from the vibration of the road.

[@rollinghillstrucking]

Loose all your oil and be stranded on the side of the road would suck,plus the tow bill 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@richlymann6451]

Get quick disconnect change drain plug for oil changes ,

[@andresr7341]

Damn, sammy I got the same thing going on my isx only different is I only got one broken 🔩 on there, I got to tackle it too but when it gets worst, best of luck brother thx for the video.

[@jerrychristensen9219]

Dam Sammy I can take it apart but putting back together different deal !!! Lol great video thanks !!

[@kayseifert7168]

Watching you and Long Haul Larry I am going to be the best lady mechanic in the USA..Have a great day..Hope there will not be any parts left over..😀👍☕️

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I did good!! only parts left over was the replaced ones :):)

[@kayseifert7168]

MakeCents 😀👍👍👍 all good..

[@joejordan5879]

I've seen your DAT ads on KZbin and in the Land Line magazine. Way to go!

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Thank you :)

[@TOPROPE1980]

The dealership be like $2500.00 parts were $150 🤣🤣🤣

[@eddebevic2097]

What's up Sammy? should use left handed drill bits for that job,

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I did, with no luck :(

[@Notthisguyeither]

You should've drilled a small hole at the end of the cracks in your oil pan to stop them from continuing before patching it

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

yes one other guy said that and it makesense :) I'm still wondering what I'll do with pan but I'll be doing that soon

[@adamvediz8495]

😂 I’m not a mechanic, but it looks good to me 😂

[@patrickconner9458]

Take the bolt and call ARP for a matching stud size if possible and use them. Exhaust bolts take a hell of a beating and then break.

[@mrpolo8931]

Great video. You're a real owner operator

[@davidschabel4664]

Good you do the work imagine what the shop bill would be, good job, pull toy here.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

yeah I can only imagine Pulltoy. More that I'd like to spend thats for sure :)

[@05trucker55]

Good video bro I’m learning a lot from you bro I appreciate it keep them coming Driver

[@4SA904]

You need to buy that tool set for broken studs dno whats it called but you drill a hole in broken stud and use that tool it goes in like dril but same time loseen the broken stud. I think thats the only way to take it out. Good luck man i hope everthing works good for you

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Easy out and left handed drill bits. I used both with no luck

[@尺乇几丨卄]

Man I wish I had that kind of patience🥴 on to part 2...😎

[@chuckychuck]

👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 stay💪🏾💪🏾you'll get that bolt out.

[@PTucker0864]

Hell yeah....that's how you do it....just gotta dive right into it! After you're finished, run some Vagiclean....errrr I mean Diesel Kleen through there if it clears nasty deposits? 😂👍

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

lol Thats right

[@strup-ic9dh]

Hope it worked big dawg.....Miller Electric is the best choice in welders....I should know because I worked for a welding supply/gas company......lol

[@tommyreed4220]

All the downtime and labor and headaches I wonder if it’s cheaper to let a dealer do it.I know I tried doing myself and after doing the math with the downtime they get it done in one day.So for myself it just makes sense to me to leave it up the Peterbilt.But Maybe for you it makes sense for u to do it.To each its own my friend.

[@johnhairfield849]

Looks like Sammy is getting it done but what comes to thought is buying an "maintenance program' from the desler more or less a insurance plan either way you're paying just depends on well you're equipped & your maintenance skills are to do the work yourself or how much you're willing to pay someone else to do the work & relying on their quality of work to do the job correct the 1st time-mistakes happen regardless.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Tommy Reed depends. I wish I could have a quote to see what they would have charged me at Kenworth lol 😂

[@timothymcvay7286]

At least you are home buddy hate it happen

[@georgejungle7521]

My wife told me to Just keep drilling on it and tap the hole. Then when I was done to fix that damned exhaust leak on my truck!

[@jasonstone4693]

Good luck buddy. Hope it all out 💪

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Thank you :)

[@sappy4happy448]

As has been mentioned if you can heat up the area around the broken stud with a torch and then squirt some oil or WD-40 on it, it will help get the oil to penetrate the threads and shrink the bolt a little also. If it's a tough one, I'll spray the area with canned air after heating up the bolt. I have yet for this not to work for me. Good luck!

[@bctw9004]

sappy 4 happy Canned air? Plz explain. Like compressed air?

[@sappy4happy448]

No. Like the air in a can you use to clean computer stuff. Sold at office supply stores. The air that comes out of the can is really cold. A LOT colder than compressed air from your compressor. The bigger difference in temperature swing from hot to cold ( to a degree of course) the better. The idea being that if you can shrink the broken stud more than the surrounding metal, it will help make getting the bolt out a lot easier. I heat the bolt which expands the bolt , then squirt oil on the bolt. The difference in temp will shrink the bolt and help 'suck the oil in the threads'. I let it sit for 10 - 20min to cool down some and repeat the procedure again. The third time instead of putting oil on the bolt, I'll spray canned air on the bolt for 10-15 sec until it cools down some. Then immediately use the easy out to back out the broken bolt. Since he drilled out a hole in the middle of the broken stud it will be even more susceptible to expanding and contracting than if he hadn't drilled out the hole. Hopefully this helps.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Great tip with the air can :):)

[@BobbyG83]

For not being a mechanic, you probably would have made a badass one, just saying. Good video.

[@brandoncaldwell95]

Its all in knowing youre equipment. i do this with my vehicles all the time. I can tell when its oil change time as my 2 diesels pickups will have a heavy thud. My gas truck gets worse fuel milage and slower response.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I messed up most of my toys as a kid taking them apart to see how they worked, then putting it back together. After a while I got pretty good lol If I take it apart, I usually can put it back together :) Appreciate ya BobbyG!!

[@rolling3868]

Great job Sammy 👍👍👍👏👏👌👌

[@timgear9892]

Easy out will not work on that broken stud? Try heating with a torch? I would be very hesitant and careful about welding, as you have ECM to worry about stray voltage.. If you do weld, keep the ground as close to the work as possible, and unplug electrical ECM connections.. You are getting in pretty deep for a shade tree job.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I didn't know about the ECM unplugging!! Thank you, now I do :)

[@brycebrandon100]

That's why I said what I said.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sonxairasakhamdee2178]

Hope all goes well bro!!!👍🏼

[@thollins6582]

Congrads seen your picture in Landline Magazine repin DAT Congrads Boss n Keep Pushin

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

:):) Thanks Bro!!

[@transkarillc6674]

Good catch and good Job man .... now I know why you make most $ , adding you ability to cut maintenance expenses, knowing what needs be done .

[@mannydavidcastillo1109]

Sammy put it back together and get trucking bro.. and yeap the rockies, I-24,77,80,64 will put a hell of a workout on you engine I try to avoid them as much as I can

[@biffsbigwheel210]

Don't forget I-17 between Flagstaff and Phoenix!

[@grantschroeder3676]

Ive always wondered if we should just replace head bolts once a year or so to prevent this from happening.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

She's got 672k miles on her so that's not to shabby. My last truck did it too around same mileage.( just one bolt though) The ones you can reach without taking apart the engine. Thats may be a good idea to around 200-300k miles. Just be sure to soak them down best you can before loosening to help avoid breaking

[@lungelinecowboy]

Mechanic scared me straight on running manifold leaks. If one of those metal gasket pieces erodes off from the exhaust going places it shouldn't be it will go into your turbo. Plus running it with a leak can warp your head or your manifold. You could put it back together and still have a leak.

[@banzaii6285]

Dam Son..."I'm not a mechanic" : ) you're not afraid to try something. Hope the welding works! Hand drilling them is tricky, hard to get and stay centered.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Yeah I couldn't get this one centered for nothing. On my Last truck, I centered and drilled it right out no problem

[@tbanks5014]

Good thing you know how to do that yourself!

[@StrongholdDefender]

I have the same exact problem with my engine exhaust manifold right now.

[@thomaskirkpatrick4031]

If you're taking off the turbo, better get you a 2×4 and a step ladder. I watch Rawze too.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

I didn't :)

[@Rocky.vs.]

Best of luck thats y I sold my “icx-ex” cumm, roling in 12.7 detroit now!

[@htcooley04]

Time for performance turbo and full tilt manifold

[@badcarbon7624]

You need to put a bracket on that turbo obviously hitting bad patches of pavement at operating caused your problem. 40 years owner operator and self mechsnic here.

[@The19bull52]

I had to drill and re tap two. When I did the egr cooler and turbo. Rough.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

JP Blanton look close there are two broken on cooler. I was going to take it off but the two broke so screw that lol

[@Ryan-vq8wn]

I watched your video a couple days ago. How's it going man?

[@bayboy1967]

I heard you can weld and screw to the broken. Then you can screw it out.

[@RobertWilliams-mk8pl]

For all it's worth, it could be much worse. You could be working out of position and away from home. You'll get it.

[@mitchellray3967]

man that turned out to be a job!

[@thomaskirkpatrick4031]

You need left hand drill bits.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Have em, used it, didn't work :) This sucker was stuck good

[@brycebrandon100]

I am a firm believer in doing your own work but for something that big I would pay to have it fixed. If you goof up on something there you're screwed.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

No one important to you na, just another part id have to buy 👍

[@ppompilus]

Had the same issue with my 16 kw 880... one bolt... and gasket leaks... screaming like a banshee at idle only

[@ppompilus]

It cost me a week and 4 grand later

[@Grumpy_Prime]

They have a tool called easyout that will take the old bolt out.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

that was the extractor tool I was talking about, and it wasn't working. My Father in law, said thats why they call it a EASY out. If it don't come out easy its not coming lmao

[@mikesandifer4973]

how bad is it to find parking at night thinking about going back over the road

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

it sometimes can be a task. But then again I never shoot for the normal main stream truck stops. rest areas and scale house and I usually have no prob finding a spot

[@21aislas]

At what mileage would you suggest to change out the gaskets and bolts on the exhaust manifold so the bolts won't break in the engine?

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

21aislas I would do it 500,000 after this, being my second time, with second truck. Don’t mess with pulling apart. As it sits, unbolt and screw in new ones and not mess with gaskets 👊

[@alexsbbq1585]

I make my living extraction of those bolts no ez way drill a small pilot hole dead center i made a jig over the years apply your penetration oil let it sit a good day let it work. Most of the time. If you use a good oil it woll come out woth a auto center punch

[@codyison1258]

Why’s your coolant Reservoir black did you or have you ever had EGR cooler problems

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

old coolant and pipes or hoses bad. Started turning the coolant like coffee and stained it

[@Notthisguyeither]

All you wannabe owner/operators pay attention this guy has what it takes to make it

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Appreciate ya Tim :)

[@stevearrington6886]

You need a easy out drill bit.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Thats the extractor tool I was talking about. Along with left handed drill bits. She was stuck like chuck!!

[@andrewlowery5793]

hope u unplugged ur batteries

[@jamesguest6839]

wow this looks like a lot too learn.

[@poozah121]

Better call Rawz.

[@rilloroc]

I believe it didn't loosen up on you because of how far off center your hole is.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

yeah. i couldn't get it 100% centered to save my aaaa lol Lil raised edge along center.

[@rilloroc]

@@MakeCentsTrucking I'm guessing that welded nut took care of you though. I've had to do that plenty of times on car engines. Works every time.

[@worksmartpaul]

Why haven't you renewed your license?

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

worksmartpaul because I’m an outlaw 😆

[@rickyharvey4835]

You need to get something cool painted on your hood

[@tjhwltt3]

What year is your ride/engine?

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Tj H 2014/2013 😎

[@Batman_810]

Dat clock aint cool Sammy!!! But maybe beneficial

[@eduardoperez7797]

Are your bolts mm or sae? If I may ask

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

MM as far as I know. That’s what I’m normally using

[@truckin3799]

Dam I don’t envy you , that’s a shitty job to have to do, hopefully it works 👍👍👍🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻and good luck

[@thomasvittetoe1930]

How many miles are on the motor?

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

672k

[@thomasvittetoe1930]

MakeCents oh she’s just getting broken in

[@mrwhite4933]

Hey sammy sell me your the arm rest to your old seat if you still have it i have a t680 but the seats are the same i will pay for shipping

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

already trashed it bro. I feel your pain, my last trucks seat(same one) arm rest broke on me too

[@bradnudd2030]

why cant you use a easy out to help get it out.

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Brad Nudd I did but it wouldn’t budge. Huge risk breaking it off and that would made it worse

[@dixiemae5042]

First 👨🏻‍🔧

[@bounpasongvongsamphanh5747]

Dixie Mae you’re first here too!!! 😃

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

🍾🎉🎊

[@rollinghillstrucking]

Do you have a tap and dye set

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Yes :)

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

well, access to one lol

[@rollinghillstrucking]

@@MakeCentsTrucking did you try that

[@MOONSHADOW-jx2tw]

I know it sounds like alot but that egr cooler looks orignal thats not good either. You need a loan

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Sure, 5% interest sound good? I'll need $10,000 :):):):)

[@truckerron]

Titanium extractor wouldn't break.

[@dimenicomendez5688]

My ISX-15 is killing me

[@leonardionita2024]

All that for a bolt. You have nine more holding it. What's the big deal. Parts are supposed to fall off🙈

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

it was leaking

[@leonardionita2024]

@@MakeCentsTrucking so it leaks a little 🤣 Just giving you a hard time buddy 😉

[@rollinghillstrucking]

Can you say Pain in the ass

[@timothymcvay7286]

What happened

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

all hell broke loose :) jk, wasn't that bad

[@timothymcvay7286]

@@MakeCentsTrucking glad to hear that buddy

[@moneymikeslickwill8749]

Do u know how many dudes are scared to do what you are doing??

[@MakeCentsTrucking]

Money mike Slick will yes lol 99% I use to be too until I started messing with them

[@dozer130]

Nope.....

[@josephcagiano3055]

2 nd 😢