Experimental Character Showcase - Village Idiot

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--CHAPTERS--
0:00:00 - Intro & Character Explanation
0:10:42 - Game Setup
0:13:43 - Night 1
0:23:02 - Day 1
0:42:02 - Night 2
0:46:59 - Day 2
0:59:48 - Night 3
1:03:10 - Day 3
1:18:42 - Night 4
1:22:17 - Day 4

[@therussianprincess7036]

…now I’m gonna wait for that exact “oops all village idiots” scenario to show up on a Patters stream, thank you

[@Mythic_Menagerie]

Village Idiots vs Legion needs to happen at some point lol

[@TomDufall]

"Legions of idiots"

[@MrGoBoom]

In a small game you could feasibly have every player claim village idiot

[@whocaresreallly5886]

I loved that "im sorry what"

[@dumnor]

He really worked hard for that win :'D

[@xa5150]

Gotta love chat at 18:26 - "Christine is surrounded by idiots" lol

[@Nuclear_Gandhi]

I see you got the Skutters in the base game, Father Benjamin

[@Dante2056]

He did say he based some of the abilities for his homebrew on unreleased characters.

[@Lastielion]

I don't mind Ben accidentally giving Ri accurate information. You can't meta a story teller who is confused about what role you are. That's much more drunk information

[@Ecl1psed276]

I watched this one on stream - it was extremely entertaining, but I felt that good had pretty much no good/sober info to work with. Marionette + Philo drunk + Idiot drunk + Puzzle drunk + Poisoner in one game seems insane lol

[@masterjbt]

good for a stream game but not as good for a regular game

[@kirbs0001]

They definitely had enough info to work with, if they made the right call to ignore VI and listen to Philo VI, while keeping who the Philo is hidden. There's solid reason to believe Philo VI info is correct. Additionally: they know there is 4 potential sources of droison for VI, with 2-3 being far more likely (philo, VI drunk and widow/poisoner. Puzzledrunk VI is very unlikely), given philo, correct outsider count and no harpy madness. In other words; they know for certain that 2 VIs are drunk. they know there's a reasonable chance a 3rd is poisoned. Evil team coordinating to actually obscure who they are in the face of so much certainty would require pretty extraordinary coordination on Evil's part. I think this setup just appeared to be in Evil's favour because the players are relatively new to VI. Give 'em a few games to work out how to solve VI droison, and VIs will be *incredibly* powerful for the good team.

[@Moleoflands]

Tbf, the demon basically only had one minion, because Shade wasn't informed

[@RasmusVJS]

@@Moleoflands She still gave false info to town. Which in turn made the Puzzlemaster guess her and get wrong info. So she still helped Evil.

[@RasmusVJS]

Not Ben's fault that the Philo day 1 picked Village Idiot, and then the Poisoner day 1 picked a Village Idiot.

[@DJDarkDarsi]

I really like the idea of an Amne Ability being "This a Legion Game, all Legion members think that they are X Role" 😂 especially if they each get A day/night of actually being that role/learning that roles information

[@moemm299]

I just remember village idiot from ONUW. Imagine the story telling nightmare if the village idiot's ability was to rotate everyone's character clockwise or counterclockwise.

[@endereaper204]

The only issue I can see with that would be the fact the demon and minion roles would swap lmao

[@alelouya1]

Love the "Ri, your info is weird, patters must be the politician" in the presence of the puzzle master.

[@Dannyg9108]

Played a few games with the VI last week and i think it's my new favorite character. The peak moment was when 5 separate players were hard-claiming Village Idiot and not backing down: two minions, a Pixie, and two real VIs. So of 5 claims, only one was a good player getting good info. But if town had managed to figure out who, it was completely game solving info.

[@jpquinn91]

Surely the Village Idiot has already peaked here. That was perfect. Utter chaos.

[@fleacythesheepgirl]

Village idiot legion bluff, all village idiots atheist game. I feel like this could still be more chaotic 😂

[@charlietwoteas3676]

Already watched on twitch but glad its here to watch again. Patters and Emma on the evil team is always an utter joy but this was one of the funniest games I've seen in a long time. Wonderful stuff

[@emmacone-roddy762]

Appreciate the kind words!

[@dumnor]

The Cultist demon: 3 Demons, no minions, they each think they are village idiot and are actually voting who dies each night.

[@magnus0017]

This game was perfect, but personally, the best moment? 1:37:40. Truly the best reveal. ^_^

[@shavranotheferanox7809]

milk being like: RANDOM BULLSHIT GO! is just amazing

[@simland]

My goodness, Patters is so consistently good at being evil. I would find it hard not to just execute him first every game and accept any reracks that result.

[@TheDarksaphira]

I love that this just immediately resulted in six people being in a VI-Claim-Chat, and, like, one of the actual ones wasn't even in that group by the second day. What the hell? Pure, unfiltered chaos. As expected with a character like that, AND Patters in game. I'm sure that's not going to be the norm with VI-games, but still. Wow. I bet it can be super helpful, but like THIS it seems nothing actually gets around. Also love that Patters was VERY preoccupied keeping his own little mario in line, but no one ever bothered to tell the ACTUAL mario anything. Just, let them keep going on their own, that's fine.

[@countrybad4279]

Too bad Nicky was not in this game

[@DasGanon]

He totally would have given Nicky one.

[@aaronfidelis3188]

No one: Absolutely no one: Ben on n1: EVIL

[@Lunaraia]

FUNFACT: Idiot stems from Ancient Greece and actually means to be "uneducated"

[@greensleevez]

Actually means loner who does not concern themselves with the matters of the polis, i.e. an apathetic, asocial person. From etymonline: early 14c., "person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning;" also in Middle English "simple man, uneducated person, layman" (late 14c.), from Old French idiote "uneducated or ignorant person" (12c.), from Latin idiota "ordinary person, layman; outsider," in Late Latin "uneducated or ignorant person," from Greek idiotes "layman, person lacking professional skill" (opposed to writer, soldier, skilled workman), literally "private person" (as opposed to one taking part in public affairs), used patronizingly for "ignorant person," from idios "one's own" (see idiom). In plural, the Greek word could mean "one's own countrymen."

[@Mazzis11]

Saw this game, cool character, love it

[@dlew1110]

Really feel like Ben moving the drunk token put good in a horrible spot. I know you can't know the philo will pick village idiot...but you did discuss that possibility beforehand. It wouldn't have been horrible to have a drunk/poisoned village idiot in any scenario.

[@Zilong09]

It's so coool that ECG players are here with the usual TPI people

[@nickgr8artist]

If a philosopher chooses to become a "Drunk", does an existing Drunk become what they think they are?

[@BloodontheClocktower]

No. The Drunk has no ability and doesn't gain one by becoming drunk. Think of it like this - you can't make a drunk sober by giving them more booze! - Ben

[@nickgr8artist]

@@BloodontheClocktower Thanks for clarifying. Though, I'd always thought of the drunk as a professional [whatever they think they are] whose skills were hampered by their alcoholism. The philosopher could steal their booze or something, to make them better.

[@Mangaleech]

already imagining a wonderful teensyville script with this and leviathan.

[@jean-baptistegrosselin7310]

Fun game ! This character is a great new addition.

[@Reojoker]

Philo Idiot seems like a really bad choice. I don’t see how it benefits good at all?

[@patrickcampbell7255]

The Philosopher gets guaranteed sober information.

[@DasGanon]

I would agree that it's not optimal play, however it is fun. It's less stupid fun than "I'm a philosopher goon"

[@q-tuber7034]

@@patrickcampbell7255 unless, of course, they are the Drunk or Marionette…

[@patrickcampbell7255]

@@q-tuber7034 Sure but then they were never the Philosopher so is irrelevant to Reojoker's question :P

[@TomDufall]

What a great demo game.! It was also an ideal opportunity to do a launch game excluding the new character, though - plenty of people would have claimed it regardless.

[@silverdragon2137]

Omg, a new char lets GOOOO

[@SuperEgo1989]

I want to see a Drunk Village Idiot in a Vortox game, and a monk.

[@xa5150]

How does one find the unofficial discord to take part in the script competition?

[@smartg27]

Amnesiac ability each time you may nomanate or be nominated an unlimited number of times

[@katherinek6166]

Meme-worthy, but I'd limit it to twice. Having 11 people nominate the amnesiac, then amnesiac nominate 11 people would suck. And just when you'd think it's over, the amnesiac would nominate themselves. No. Twice might be interesting. Three could even be tolerable. More than that would get old.

[@Keisuki]

That's a cool idea. I wonder how we'd make that actually discoverable though. Most people don't accidentally nominate twice, so this would likely go all game without being used once.

[@whocaresreallly5886]

@katherinek6166 i personally would extend the twice nom and be nom to everyone call it two bites at the apple good for good because evil isn't safe after one nom

[@shauntilton1432]

Good job Shade!

[@sdspivey]

It would be funny if Ben told the town halfway through, that there was no VI.

[@adamthebatmanwest]

Does anyone know if any if the experimental characters are ever going to be in official scripts? In the rulebook they mention some extras that weren't in the box and I was wondering if they were gonna be made from experimental characters or all new ones if they are still being made.

[@nitrorev]

Yes, we don't know exactly which characters will be in which scripts but the future official editions will definitely be comprised of characters we already have. Case in point, Leviathan is definitely on Garden of Sin.

[@quetuo3908]

to expand on what Nitrorev said: there is currently planned to be a total of 6 official script. The three we have now, and 3 more, called Garden of Sin, The Tomb, and Midnight in the House of the Damned These will, of course, be full scripts, and they will be made up entirely of characters currently called 'experimental'. I don't think any two official scripts will share any characters, they will each have their own unique set, but I could be wrong about that Additionally, there will still be another category called Greatest Show on Earth, which rather than being a script, will essentially be like experimental roles are now: a collection of roles that dont belong to any of the official scripts, but that you can use in your script creation.

[@adamthebatmanwest]

Thanks for the quick replies! This is exciting news!

[@VGV1deo]

Apparently, when they release the remaining scripts, they want about half the characters to have never been seen before and the other half to be known experimental characters, and at the rate we’re going I’m hoping for the expansion scripts to be released next year

[@nitrorev]

@@VGV1deo My long-shot dream is that the finale of the NRB plays BoTC season that was just announced yesterday will feature a complete edition. I love the infinite variety of scripts we have but it would be so nice to have even just 1 more official script that the community can kinda stabilise around. Would also mean Cult of the Clocktower season 4 could kick off proper.

[@MandyFilet]

Is there a list of all jinxes that gets updated with new releases, just like the wiki? The most recent jinx list I've found so far is from 2022 😅

[@bennburns]

Yes, it's on the wiki.

[@edwardg8912]

What is the amnesiac ability here? I missed it and can’t find it

[@therussianprincess7036]

Thought about an amni nomination ability, something like “outsiders can be nominated multiple times in a day” might be a fun one. Would fly under the radar first, would eventually help good by confirming some players if amni gets a bingo, simple enough to guess but still challenging to pinpoint? And very obviously amni bs once people start noticing it.

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

The problem is that, unless this is known to the players they won't do it because trying to do so can be considered trying to cheat.

[@katherinek6166]

Simply because this is my one chance to say it without upsetting anyone. What a bunch of idiots. :p

[@snoovian7951]

shoutout to tye who is most definitely having these guys in the game hi tye

[@snoovian7951]

I was evil and bluffed as a village idiot, real one immediately declared themselves drunk and executed a bunch of town, evil won against all odds (as the script was "whose cult is this anyway?", It was lil monsta, I was a goblin with a cerenovirus that cerenovirused the noble to pretend to be the noble whole game without us realising lmao

[@DoomedRN]

how does this ork with Ojo? only 1 will die?

[@Ellie-rx3jt]

Yes, one dies each time the Ojo selects it until none are alive, then it sinks

[@jayschuster7209]

If the Ojo picks village idiot, do all three die?

[@VGV1deo]

Nope, the ST picks one to die

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

@@VGV1deo Same as with other duplicated characters (e.g. Farmer, where the living Farmer should be the one to die if selected)

[@heylolp9]

Kazali Village Idiot and all roles that are bluffing or will someone make bluff/mad Now a Legion in and maybe a Vortox just for false info and to have 1 non random Outsider Count Damn this Character leads to beautiful Script possibilities

[@samuelhall4140]

Amnesiac idea for this script: Each night you wake and learn how many players learnt ‘Good’ or ‘Evil’ as part of their information.

[@alelouya1]

So... the +0 to +3 VI could mean that every VI could add up to 2 VI no? Or is it just a simplification of the full text tat says max 2 VI?

[@emmacone-roddy762]

Max 3 vi in total only the original gets to add up to two others

[@KingDooburu]

Since each Village Idiot can add up to two Village Idiots, could all good players be Village Idiots, with at least half being sober? Would it be more correct to change it to [1 to 3 Village Idiots are in play, if more than 1, 1 is drunk]

[@henriknobinder7395]

I wonder if the village idiot's ability maybe should read [all extra village idiots are drunk] instead. It feels like having it be only one of them makes it too easy to confirm information between them and allows them to solve games too quickly.

[@ZylowHF]

I think that there is a decent counterargument: 1-A. Evil has an easy bluff in idiot 1-B. Evil can complicate the process of finding the drunk with said bluff 2-A. If evil can figure out which idiot has false info, then they can try to kill or make look suspicious the true info idiot giving the evil team free misinfo 2-B: The pithag jinx is really capable of creating more believable misinfo 2-B-1: The pithag could turn a minion into the idiot and hide the changing of the drunkness

[@jpquinn91]

This game didn't play out like that at all though. I know there was extra drunkenness/poisoning here but it's so easy to bluff that confirming anything was almost impossible.

[@nickburose8286]

@@ZylowHFpersonally i dont really like the fact that evils' only recourse to the power of this role is to bluff it themselves. its sort of like a permanent reverse madness on the evil team.

[@AlexH274]

I believe Sabenite should have gotten Good for Christine.

[@Zedja]

From the presentation of the character, I can only see one issue with it. Targeting by the storyteller. What I mean is that when there's more than one Village Idiot, the storyteller might have someone they almost always make drunk, because it's funny.

[@Moleoflands]

That's the case with the Drunk or puzzle master anyway though

[@AdamGaffney96]

I feel like when designing characters it's almost impossible to account for all things someone could do in bad spirit. I also think that's the case for any of the drunkenness/poisoning/detrimental characters. You have to assume good faith with these things to an extent.

[@videopar9750]

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