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@nancysantamarialatica11414 жыл бұрын
Long timer here years w this channel. Still you surprised me w these locationZ . B safe guy u both
@elonchan48834 жыл бұрын
I’m happy you guys got a sponsor, this kind of content really deserves it
@MickeyNixonFilms4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the vintage mint green celeste. Oh yeeeaaaah! PP#1
@Delta1324 жыл бұрын
Hello
@CrushedLuminary4 жыл бұрын
Those remind me a lot like Phoenix Valley Metro Rail. They require a raised platform to board.
@TheGreatMunky4 жыл бұрын
There are two types of people in this world: 1 - Those who see beauty and admire it 2 - Those who see beauty and destroy it
@bobroberts23714 жыл бұрын
In reference to your 2. Their mentality is " Gee that looks good , my life sucks so yours should too. "
@jds76654 жыл бұрын
and the problem the world runs into is everyone has a different idea of whats beauty
@1984-w4r4 жыл бұрын
In other words; conservatives versus leftists.
@bombtwenty38674 жыл бұрын
Those who destroyed them were the ones who dumped them there. That's rust. In fact the graffiti paint probably prolongs their life. Yeah the smashed glass, but if the windows weren't open they'd be full of mould out there in all weathers unheated.
@TheGreatMunky4 жыл бұрын
@@bombtwenty3867 Does that also go for the ones that were inside a building where people broke in and damaged them?
@breakinn4034 жыл бұрын
Such a shame to destroy them for no other reason than destroy.
@Floridamermaid4 жыл бұрын
breakinn403 how did you comment 1 day ago?
@markcrawford86514 жыл бұрын
@@Floridamermaid channel member maybe? my best guess
@MrCzechTexan4 жыл бұрын
Transit agencies in the US love cutting corners to save money. If they can replace a trolley line with a cheaper bus route and get rid of 60-year old equipment in the process then they will.
@elonchan48834 жыл бұрын
MrCzechTexan you are wrong actually, it has to do with oil companies, oil companies and car companies lobbied against Street cars in order to sell more cars and busses, as well as to sell more Gasoline.
@jacobrzeszewski65274 жыл бұрын
It is, but nature would have done that eventually anyway. Still sad to see,
@aluminumdragonfly4 жыл бұрын
The curtain at 14:02 prevented light from the passenger compartment from reflecting off the windshield at night -- this would improve the driver's ability to see outside.
@amyfisher63804 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly surprised the curtain was still intact, given how much the cars themselves were destroyed.
@walasiewicz4 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact!
@Mirandorl4 жыл бұрын
One day I hope there's a graffiti and vandalism museum and someone breaks in and gloss paints over all the pieces and mends stuff.
@DanielGBenesScienceShows4 жыл бұрын
Such a great comment. I could visualize a bunch of antique restorers and professional painters with hoodies and flashlights. Also, I watched a few of your robot videos and I’d love to have one in the corner of the living room that would greet me with a wave when I came home. (I’m not a programmer so that’s about all it would do, or try to strangle me).
@sq1rlsqu4d4 жыл бұрын
🤣 Brilliant comment. Here, have tEh internets as a prize.
@punchline434 жыл бұрын
@MOLZAONER 2017 *Pieces.
@basti52314 жыл бұрын
While I absolutely get the sentiment, the ones publishing their graffiti art in museums or exhibitions are not the ones smearing their tags on historic property. There is this one senior lady in Germany who sprays over offensive graffiti like swastikas or similar stuff with the color of the original surface to make it appear like nothing was ever there, or she sprays it over with non-offensive images. Something like that could maybe be done in those cases if someone is willing to risk it.
@FrillyRyuu4 жыл бұрын
Well, Graffiti is an art form. Many graffiti artists have been hired to do commissions. Then there's vandalism which is just stupid. One side of graffiti is vandalism, and another is actual art. I do agree that if there is some sort of museum that this should happen...but ye. I'm actually looking into the graffiti art style as like stuff to do with permission cause I like the bubble style of it all, It kinda hurts me to see people using such an amazing art form to vandalize stuff...We should fix this kind of shit back to its beauty my dudes
@sirbobfive4 жыл бұрын
Although this trolley graveyard has been covered by other youtube channels the Proper People's video is extremely well done and as always they managed to show details missed by others. I admire their dedication to preserve our history and the places they visit. As much as I would love to see all the places they have been this video is a stark reminder why some of those places might best be kept in their personal archives. I applaud the Proper People for their dedication in preservation. I look forward to your next video.
@oldenweery75104 жыл бұрын
Amen. Stay safe.
@taliesinbourne74844 жыл бұрын
I just dont understand the apeal of destroying cool stuff, it blows my mind.
@bobroberts23714 жыл бұрын
Their mentality is " Gee that looks good , my life sucks so yours should too. "
@armchairgeneralissimo4 жыл бұрын
Happened to an abandoned spot I've frequented a few times in the UK, there's an abandoned cottage that was left fully furnished with a beautiful old Jaguar in the garage last time I visted the Jaguar had been stripped of parts and vandalised :(
@mattalewis134 жыл бұрын
@@armchairgeneralissimo was that cottage in Romily by any chance?
@himesetsu10012 жыл бұрын
exactly :((((
@EnterpriseXI Жыл бұрын
Really bad childhoods
@rantropolis4 жыл бұрын
I went to the trolly graveyard 6 times in different seasons in the past 5 years. Graffiti was emerging insanely every time I got there, new ones, old ones being modified, tagging... one time I got there and 4 teens were painting different things outside of the train and when they saw me, they said: “let’s do some oriental ones.” This place is very unique and beautiful, it’s probably the one and only in the world, when it’s gone, it’s gone. Please, let’s cherish it.
@zoeyjean48464 жыл бұрын
The owner put security cameras and hired guards to watch it now 😁
@gokaury4 жыл бұрын
Some people are just the worst types of human beings imaginable. No respect for others, other's property, nature and, least of all, themselves. Truly despicable.
@shaugse4 жыл бұрын
There were no guards when I went 2 months ago
@zoeyjean48464 жыл бұрын
@@shaugse it was on the news here I'm not sure maybe they couldn't pay for them anymore or something
@DanaDissent4 жыл бұрын
I took pictures there when I was in high school, and that was in the early-mid 90s. It wasn't vandalized like that back then. It's such a shame that people can't respect the beauty of what has been left behind, and have to go and destroy what so many others have, do, and/or could enjoy. Such is the state of things in America... 😔
@eligahdukes14304 жыл бұрын
They have restored some of those cars and they are running in Philadelphia on Girard Street
@carib54234 жыл бұрын
That’s incredible
@blue9multimediagroup4 жыл бұрын
At the moment, they're out of service being overhauled
@FrillyRyuu4 жыл бұрын
Next time I visit family I wanna go there with my aunt. I wanna see them in person and take pictures!
@dirtd1ckmike5544 жыл бұрын
Firefly lol weird asf
@blue9multimediagroup4 жыл бұрын
@@dirtd1ckmike554 how is that weird
@zoeyjean48464 жыл бұрын
Hi! I live in the town these street cars are located. Just popping on here to say I love your channel. Also here to warn people that I'm sure you filmed this a while ago as you guys have hoodies and hats on so, you may not know this but if anyone decides to try to go to this "grave yard" I would not recommend it. The owner has implemented high tech security cameras and security on sight, since covid hit too many people have been going and destroying these cars. They may look abandoned but the owner loves his trollies. Please please please don't destroy the history of any "abandoned" places I know Michael and Bryan never do but to anyone else, take notes cause they're the best kind of urban explorers. Keep up the great work guys! ❤
@Xznyth4 жыл бұрын
Where is this located?
@zoeyjean48464 жыл бұрын
@@Xznythcentral Pennsylvania
@octaviab69234 жыл бұрын
I heard only the front part of his property actually has security cameras; and it's still easy for people to sneak there? Either way, yes, people please don't destroy beautiful places!
@himesetsu10012 жыл бұрын
they look like they bout to fall apart, ''abandoned''not the right word anymore😂
@Toobzilla Жыл бұрын
its a personal collection?
@10551055The4 жыл бұрын
10:53 That is a Pittsburgh streetcar. The "Red" and "Blue" lines on the map still exist today, albeit with more modernized multi-car trains. I used to take the blue line from Downtown to Library everyday for work. Boston and Pittsburgh both call their light rails the "T" and have a similar logo.
@user-tl4qs2io5c4 жыл бұрын
I hate taking the T. Two lines and yet I always end up on the wrong one.
@timothyjenkins60914 жыл бұрын
I just made a similar post regarding Pittsburgh, but your post is more specific than mine. As a kid my grandmother would take me downtown and we'd hop on any streetcar that happened to come along. I remember Shannon Drake, Mt. Lebanon, and Beechview (which is seen in the video) as some of the routes we rode.
@timothyjenkins60914 жыл бұрын
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@buckscountyeasarchive89954 жыл бұрын
I'm near Philly and Allentown is a suburb of Philly. And Penn station is also in Downtown Philadelphia
@MikeDLostMedia4 жыл бұрын
Yup, the old PCC cars
@FriendlyKat4 жыл бұрын
Honestly it makes me sad that people destroy history. Some people just want to watch the world burn.
@edwardwood65324 жыл бұрын
Too often in the US, if anything goes abandon, some people just want to trash it. I want to understand the psychological underpinnings. If I recall correctly trips to Russia have comparable results. Note so much with western Europe and Asia.
@geonerd4 жыл бұрын
Humans are a pretty sad species.
@freedomisslavery68404 жыл бұрын
Look at what is happening in the US today. The Marxists are hellbent on destroying history piece by piece.
@panda3d1804 жыл бұрын
@@edwardwood6532 I have the mentality tbh. I think it's because it is fun to find the goodies, then burn it, and salvage it
@StreuB14 жыл бұрын
@@freedomisslavery6840 Agreed. One only need to read Das Kapital to see these morons retracing the failed steps of the past. Scary to be honest.
@bersl24 жыл бұрын
If you ever want to know what being on one of these was like, go to New Orleans and ride the St. Charles line. The rolling stock are 1920s Perley Thomas (yes, the same company who makes school buses) streetcars, with replacement parts crafted locally. There is no air conditioning. The seating is simple wooden benches. The lights will go out from time to time. Sometimes, a really loud motor under your feet will start up, stay on for a minute, then stop. Occasionally, a power surge will trip the main circuit breaker, and there might even be a spark or two, and the conductor will have to flip an enormous switch above their head to turn the car back on. And I love them and miss them so much.
@chanchito44014 жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea what the really loud motor under the floor would be?
@basshead20034 жыл бұрын
Chanchito My guess would be an air compressor for the brakes and probably the doors.
@tisfortori45214 жыл бұрын
Oh thats so cool!
@chanchito44014 жыл бұрын
@@basshead2003 Yeah I was thinking something along those lines like a vacuum pump.
@mtmmac14 жыл бұрын
@@chanchito4401 It is a air compressor.
@shuffleboardandrea4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t read all of the comments so I apologize if this is a duplicate answer to your question as to the trolley with the map on it. That one is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and it went through the South Hills region of Pittsburgh. It has two Main lines that go through the South Hills and one ends up at South Hills Village and the other one ends up in library, PA. When they were new, they were built back in the early 80s when Pittsburgh introduced the “subway.“ Our Subway actually only went through downtown but it was above ground through most of the route with a few tunnels on the route. Most of the lines that went through the South Hill, were the actual original street car routes. However, over the years, they have been modified. But that was really cool to see the trolley that I used to ride on when I was a teenager. Thanks for having this video today. It brought back memories.
@SatanIceCream4 жыл бұрын
I grew up with these trolleys in Philly. Took one to school every day from North Philly to Center City. Used to be tons of them. No gas, no pollution, CRAZY TORQUE when they took off. And nicer than a bus, car or train. The tracks were on the corner where I lived... I can still hear the electrical arcing from the overhead line and see the sparks... and hear them whizzing by. Grand memories... Some people think they were like the size of a bus, but they are about 2x longer and 1.5x wider... very classy to ride in... they were phased out of Philly in the late 1990s. We had the future in the past.. 100% electric vehicles... way, WAY back since the early 1900s
@brianbarnes77744 жыл бұрын
I used to ride the Trolley when I was a kid. Woodland Avenue to Center City, Philadelphia. This video brought back some memories.
@MoosesValley4 жыл бұрын
According to some documentaries I have seen and movies like "Who Killed the Electric Car", General Motors (GM) went round purshasing all of the trolly car lines in the 1940's and 1950's and immediately closed them down. They were trying to build demand for the automobile. Disgusting behaviour with the benefit of hindsight ...
@Radnugget4 жыл бұрын
That is something that occured, I think it was even alluded to in Who Framed Rodger Rabbit Car companies killed public transit esentially.
@xfirty2x4 жыл бұрын
And the Government. People pay a lot more for fuel then for tickets... plus rego, tires etc... Government makes a lot more money from cars...
@ryanroberts11044 жыл бұрын
It was done to sell buses more than it was for cars. GM realized street cars were going out of business and wanted them to purchase their new buses. Back in the 40s everybody didn't have a car like today - a LOT of people still rode the train/bus.
@jimb60873 жыл бұрын
Also Electric street cars are a long term investment (costs more upfront ). Fuel is short term, companies like the lower cost up front.
@Poisson41472 жыл бұрын
In the late 1940s GM, Firestone, Gulf Oil, and (IIRC) a couple of other fossil-fuel companies formed a false front called National City Lines. NCL presented themselves as a white-knight company that would rescue struggling transit systems by consolidating things like management, procurement, etc. Instead, soon after taking control of a company they'd rip up streetcar routes and either replace them with (GM) buses or abandon them entirely. They outright killed a lot of smaller systems and weakened larger ones. NCL wasn't, as some claim, the only reason trolley* systems failed. There were already a lot of factors in play like deferred maintenance after WWII, massive federal highway construction, legal restrictions, etc. But NCL *did* hugely exploit those factors. We'll never know how many systems might have survived if NCL's treachery had been uncovered earlier. * P.S. rather than "trolly" :)
@michaelarowan41744 жыл бұрын
Your quote at the end is beautiful! How true! Great video guys- bummer about the vandalism tho.... Thanks for sharing!
@erinmarie67224 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, this place is very close to me. I hope the area was kind to you guys and you enjoyed yourselves. Been a fan for over 2 years now, it's kinda surreal watching you guys film somewhere I've been.
@befuddled20104 жыл бұрын
Great episode! The streetcar history and decline is a very sad story in modern American history as the car, oil and tire manufacturers worked to pressure public transportation lines into extinction for economic benefit. I applaud the originator of this street car graveyard for trying to preserve these cast-off relics while mourning their decline and destruction by ignorant vandals. Happy to see this post and thank you for it. Cheers mates!
@zephyr27314 жыл бұрын
There are 2 kinds of people in the world.Those who create. And those who destroy. Taggers and vandals are destroyers. The Proper People are creators. Thanks for that. Thanks for the vid!
@lightningdemolition19644 жыл бұрын
You say that like it's a bad thing. I don't create anything. My goal every day is the be as destructive as possible. I have fun crushing breaking and destroying. The best part is people pay me to do it and even cheer me on. Just another perspective.
@NirateGoel4 жыл бұрын
@@lightningdemolition1964 There's a difference between doing it for legal reasons and doing it to destroy out of spite or other motives.
@sunsetpalmsproductions36334 жыл бұрын
9:07 Those are T trains/trolleys for the Green Line serving for the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, the MBTA for short. The Green Line consist of serving Boston, passing through the Back bay and South end. Moving onto a split, one ending in the southern side of Brookline and the other continuing to split again moving into the middle section of Brookline and the rest heading up towards Allston and Brighton. The remaining line heads to Chestnut hill and ending in Newton. The Green Line is still in service today, with repairs to improve the MBTA’s outdated track, systems, and over all improvements for their riders. 10:58 As for that train/trolley, it’s a PAtransit trolly. PAtransit servers the city of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, the modern day PAtransit Trollys serve the Red line which servers Greenbrook and Beechside. The miss conception is that the PAtransit logo is very similar to the MBTA T logo, both Having black T’s circled with the white background. The difference between the logo’s is that the PAtransit logo has a T shaped white line in the middle of the T. So it was a misconception on the lines logo’s, one servers Boston and one server Pittsburgh. Hope I could help spread information and give some history on these trains, if you read this _have a great and wonderful day!_
@atallguynh4 жыл бұрын
This is not part of Boston's Orange Line. Google Overbrook and Beechview -- they're Pittsburgh, not Boston.
@pendragnx4 жыл бұрын
@@atallguynh He's talking about 2 lines.. and where did you get Orange from!?
@atallguynh4 жыл бұрын
@@pendragnx he edited his comment to remove the original reference to Boston's Orange Line.
@edmctug88004 жыл бұрын
@@atallguynh For Sure on the Green line MBTA boston l Funnys to see an Ad for a down town boston Department Sore Filenes Basement long gone!!! PCC are alive and well today on the bostons red line exstention n!
@maddieking56864 жыл бұрын
i love the proper people so much for so many reasons. 1. they don’t destroy beautiful things. they leave them exactly how they were so other people can experience the same thing they did, but some people take advantage of that and it’s so sad. 2. they put effort into their videos. they take their time to edit and pick out soundtracks, and you can tell. but, i also like that there’s almost no music throughout the whole video. 3. they don’t try to make it scary. they’re real and show us what it’s really like to go to these places. they don’t over exaggerate just to get views. 4. the calmness in every video. it’s so calming to watch these videos, not to mention so cool. it’s like the perfect mix of the two. 5. they take the time to learn the history, and then teach it to us. it makes such a difference to learn the real history of all of these places, and makes the experience of watching these videos so much more surreal. 6. they’re getting it out there, even if it’s not doing much, that graffitiing these beautiful places is such a horrible thing. these places would be so much better if they were preserved. thank you guys for the effort you put into your videos. i love what you’re doing here.
@maddieking56864 жыл бұрын
not to mention their pure talent. they’re so talented at videography, and photography and it’s so much better than just a camera and a crappy mic.
@callumdonington22274 жыл бұрын
There's something so creepily beautiful about Pennsylvania Coal Country in late fall.
@DarkMadness814774 жыл бұрын
My friends and I drove out from Boston to Pittsburgh with the intentions of stopping here along the way. Never actually did and we were all way too hung over on the drive back to actually stop. but now this makes me want to go back and actually go. Also, as I'm sure has been pointed out, the MBTA (T) is from Boston. All the green trolleys are from the T's green line.
@BorgHunter4 жыл бұрын
3:30 These trains were sold to SEPTA late in their lives. They're originally CTA 6000 series trains from Chicago, constructed 1950-1959. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6000-series_(CTA)
@joshuasutherland66924 жыл бұрын
Spam Canz
@XLordLeamingtonX4 жыл бұрын
I thought they looked familiar
@tracedehaven21904 жыл бұрын
But where did SEPTA run them? I don't recall cars like that on the underground subway lines. I'm thinking they ran on the Media/Sharon Hill lines out of 69th Street, but I don't remember if those cars only ran on raised platforms. The Media/Sharon Hill lines are remnants of the Interurban era, and I knew them as the "red line" only recently subsumed into SEPTA in the 70's.
@skydiamond87054 жыл бұрын
@@tracedehaven2190 At the time septa rann theses cars on their light rail line but they didn't fit
@Poisson41472 жыл бұрын
@@tracedehaven2190 They ran on the Norristown High Speed Line from Upper Darby to Norristown. They were needed because the existing Brill cars were no longer serviceable but the N-5 replacements were delayed. I rode them to work almost every day. They showed every mile they'd racked up in Chicago, but kept the NHSL from being shut down.
@MrPNutt4 жыл бұрын
Bryan, your comment at the end was incredible. Not sure what I enjoy most, the visits to the iconic locations, or the almost plea you make to all about preserving tangible items so we have a physical link to the past. I have great respect for what you and Michael do and thoroughly enjoy all of your videos and the respect you have for the locations you visit. I believe one of my favorites was the Power plant. You made the statement that the architects (and I’m paraphrasing) were just a concerned with the visual details as they were functionality. That was one of the best exits to an episode ever. Great work gents, keep them coming!
@justinmccowan25434 жыл бұрын
The early greyhound busses from the 40's I find just as awesome as the streetcars! The way them busses were designed, just about the only difference between them and the older Presidents' Conference Committee trollies as far as design I could tell is that the busses had wheels with street tires instead of rail wheels. It's like they designed the early Greyhound busses to copy the PCC streetcars.
@RailPreserver2K4 жыл бұрын
I've heard about this place and while I was in Washington Pennsylvania at the streetcar Museum I asked some of the volunteers if they had heard of it and if they planned on trying to get some of the cars out and save them and they said it just simply was not possible to get them out which is a shame hopefully something can be done to save some of the cars that are salvageable
@tylerbowers63784 жыл бұрын
Do you remember exactly where.
@Nick-ev1vk4 жыл бұрын
Theyre all privately owned and on private land. Owner hardly EVER gives permission to visit.
@blaze11484 жыл бұрын
@@tylerbowers6378 ....why....do wanna tag 'em....
@jea069er4 жыл бұрын
Scrap
@fatcatboo4 жыл бұрын
Love going to the Trolly Museum! Its awesome to see the refurbished ones in working condition
@carlavision61434 жыл бұрын
So sad people have to vandalize and destroy the trolley cars of the past. Really enjoyed your video!
@MuffinSlayer993 жыл бұрын
My family took a trip to Ft. Smith, Arkansas for spring break a couple years back and we got to ride in a near 100 year old trolley. I was fortunate enough to get to drive it too. There’s a few in a shop at the main station that the owner will let you board and take photos with. If you’re ever near Fort Smith I recommend getting the chance before they inevitably lose funding or stop operating. Great video as always, though :)
@simonthechipmunkCC4 жыл бұрын
They look like they could be taken straight from the fallout universe. That futuristic curved design is fantastically retro.
@CarlyGlover024 жыл бұрын
I love how you explain everything In your videos, this is especially useful for people who don’t live in the US like me 👏🏼
@lavapix4 жыл бұрын
You could tell that was PA just by the thumbnail.
@DB-474 жыл бұрын
12:50 Those trams and their concept (PCC) were direct predecessors to famous Czechoslovak ČKD Tatra T1/T2/T3 rolling in most East European and Russian towns. In Prague those old trams without modernisation have dedicated heritage line 23 after they were retired in 03/2017
@SpencersStuffTV4 жыл бұрын
In the great word of Owen Wilson..."Wow"
@Miakel4 жыл бұрын
Soon as I saw the title I said "wow!!!
@TheVillainOfTheYear4 жыл бұрын
But he spells it, "Wahhhhhoooowwwwwwuhhhh."
@rckblykitn4 жыл бұрын
"the the" great 😑
@SpencersStuffTV4 жыл бұрын
@@rckblykitn thanks!
@AMiniki4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else heard it? 🤣
@tisfortori45214 жыл бұрын
We had a trolly/streetcar where I live and it got disbanded. Recently, however, they brought it back (: They made it look "Vintage." And as far as I know, it mostly goes around the college area in my city.
@StreuB14 жыл бұрын
7:40 They're from the early 80's. That textured stainless is no where near that old. That stainless trim is McNichols 5-SM 1600 textured sheet. I have used it in my designs at work.
@akanishta994 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing. They used the same material in New York City buses from that period as well.
@blue9multimediagroup4 жыл бұрын
It was added in the 80s for easy maintenance.
@jbrans38474 жыл бұрын
Huge fan of you guys! I live in Southwestern Virginia, we have several abandon structures around me very local i would LOVE for you guys to come explore. We have an abandoned hospital, as well as a outlet mall all within a 30 minute drive of eachother.
@OneHonestGuy4 жыл бұрын
4:13 the fare price would probably be more telling, but a sticker will only help you identify when it was last used. Stickers get replaced with time!
@paulbenish4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Exactly. They probably got retired in the late 90s
@Poisson41472 жыл бұрын
@@paulbenish SEPTA retired the ex-CTA cars in the mid-90s when they finally took (very late) delivery of the N-5 cars.
@bomberguy064 жыл бұрын
Glad that some cities retain their trolley lines. Taking a trolley/streetcar is probably the best way to go downtown (at least where I live). Driving into a major city, trying to find parking, and paying a lot to park for a limited time is a pain.
@AmongTheUnknown4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting on this video for a long time ever since we talked about you guys being in Pennsylvania! Finally I can see the journey
@redhead4life123454 жыл бұрын
Your style is absolutely superb. One of the best on the internet, hands down!
@picax83984 жыл бұрын
As amature railfan, this hurt to see these once busy cars just rotting away...
@Eeveethegamer264 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos. There's a certain atmosphere about them, if that's the right word, cause you two don't trash places you go and you give as much history as possible about the location you're visiting. I love it
@chanchito44014 жыл бұрын
Here in England we had streetcars (called trams) of which some 1920s and 30s examples still survive and operate in a seaside town called Blackpool.
@brucenadams14 жыл бұрын
A great video. Wow, what a trip down memory lane. Modern railroad track is 120 pounds per yard. The engines weigh about 200 tons. It takes heavy rail and close spaced ties to support that type of weight. The trolleys were much lighter. They possibly used 80 pound per yard rail and that was adequate. When you store rolling stock, you take a lot of liberties. Ties every three or four feet will work since this may be single use rail. A safety measure for long term storage (AKA abandonment) is to weld the wheels or the lead and end cars to the rail. Maybe some in between. In the end, it's a graveyard.
@AmongTheUnknown4 жыл бұрын
The T is actually what we call our trolleys here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Penn Station is actually in Pittsburgh. The whole route map is all Pittsburgh. And by Allentown, it’s not Allentown, PA. It’s a whole different place near Pittsburgh. PA-Transit, is Pittsburgh. The street cars are all from different states, but they were all mainly on the rail lines for Pittsburgh.
@nordisk18744 жыл бұрын
No the T are Boston cars.
@AmongTheUnknown4 жыл бұрын
Michael Arnold Here in Pittsburgh, we call our trolley’s T trains, but the cars here in the graveyard are actually from different states than just Pennsylvania. So yes.
@danlastname90024 жыл бұрын
@@AmongTheUnknown But other systems, such as Boston, use a similar naming scheme. The green ones with the T are, 100%, certainly, ex-Boston vehicles.
@ian_everywhere4 жыл бұрын
@@nordisk1874 You guys are both right, and for those who aren't from Boston, the whole rail system is called "The T" - short for MBTA or Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. There are trolley trains, traditional subway trains, and diesel-electric commuter-rail trains that have routes from the suburbs into two stations in the center of Boston. The T also includes bus routes.
@amandapanda12884 жыл бұрын
I believe the green ones are Boston. Before quarantine, I was on the T daily and those look exactly like our green line trolleys. Also the ad he zoomed in on stated a location of “Downtown Crossing” which confirms it was for Boston.
@MirkoC4074 жыл бұрын
The first one was originally a PCC technology based rapid transit car from Chicago. The CTA even cannibalized streetcars to build some. Later SEPTA needed new cars for the Norriston High Speed Line but none were readily available on the market. So they bought some used stuff, including these CTA trains until the ones still running today were designed and built
@Poisson41472 жыл бұрын
SEPTA was in bad financial shape back then. They passed on the opportunity to do an add-on to the Kawasaki order, hoping to squeeze a few more years out of the NHSL's Brill cars. Unfortunately the Brills started failing regularly - including one fatal collision - but replacement cars were still several years off. They got the CTAs for scrap prices (IIRC $500 each!), did just enough to get them running again, and slammed them into service. Eventually SEPTA cleaned them up but they showed every mile they'd ever travelled. They also took six Market-Frankford cars and heavily modified them for the NHSL's geometry. The M-F cars provided short tripper service while the CTAs were used for express runs.
@BigEChee854 жыл бұрын
Good mix of street cars and rapid transit cars, at least museums like “Illinois Railway Museum” have many streetcars and rapid transit cars, to keep their history and show people the past of transportation. Can’t wait to see more videos soon.
@Mark_-jq6wg4 жыл бұрын
It's sad to see what people will do... Just glad there are people like you guys that do show the proper respect they deserve.
@justinmccowan25434 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Personally I love the styling of the Presidents' Conference Committee style of streetcars. Who knew a place existed where there are so many still there at one place? Now I really need to order a few PCC models in HO scale, and add them to my model railroad layout!
@cristipuiu85414 жыл бұрын
I personally love this video. I am an admirer of old trains and trams so for me this was a treat. I enjoyed seeing them decaying alone in that superb woods scenery, all crammed together on that old railways. Even with that ugly grafity on them, they still represent a portion of beautiful public transportation history. Big thumbs up for this video, love you guys for your work!!!
@hskc90654 жыл бұрын
@11:09 that trolley is the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania “T”
@davidblee8194 жыл бұрын
I recognized the T logo. And immediately saw Steel Plaza and Beechview and knew that had to be Pittsburgh.
@jacquesc0usteau4 жыл бұрын
I googled and it came up with Penn Station, NYC LOL. Bumping so your comment is seen tho!!!
@yacan14 жыл бұрын
as a yinzer, I was screaming
@hayleywonders27944 жыл бұрын
Pat buses and the T!
@TheMichigami4 жыл бұрын
yup, they were still running a few of the old cars once in a while when i was a kid more years ago than i care to mention, before the 80's trains took over completely for their time til the new ones replaced them too. there's an episode of Mr. Rogers with him riding the T out into the south hills that shows what the old trains like the one in that railyard looked like back when they were still running.
@joeyjennings95484 жыл бұрын
i grew up in the 60's 70's 80's loved exploring places abandoned houses cars trains... im from NYC and long island. it really pains me to see graffiti and vandalism 😢 when i heard they went after the restored ones... ? me and friends went out like you both never came to mind to break windows spray paint.. its so damn sad to see this.. i grew up riding on these and old buses. it had a feel sound smell. im glad you know the history and names of things. more power to you both. be safe & keep exploring 👍
@NirateGoel4 жыл бұрын
It is a real shame, some people are just terrible humans. Destroying something someone(s) have sunk countless hours into restoring for it to be taken away in an instant, from anything to windows and graffiti to being burnt to husks.
@cut--4 жыл бұрын
Seeing those Septa logos brings back a lot of memories of Philly. I lived there for quite a while and fortunately after college I was able to afford a vehicle of my own! "Septa Sucks" we used to say (buses were always late as hell)
@mikaisepic82514 жыл бұрын
I lived there too an truly septa sucks
@bonemar664 жыл бұрын
Talk to anyone and they'll say their city's transit is lousy. Except NY or London, and probably even then...
@Poisson41472 жыл бұрын
Systematically Eliminating Public Transit Altogether
@farbe1234 жыл бұрын
Your intro is spot on amazing! Memorable! And no need to skip it, lenght is perfect too. Please dont ever change the music/style. Its ok to change the locations/pictures.
@BlueOffense4 жыл бұрын
*Good job!*
@MrChitownpyro4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guys! That was awesome
@bradklingensmith4 жыл бұрын
That leaning car is from Pittsburgh, our system is the T. Allentown is a Pittsburgh neighborhood which also still has the gound level line that is sometimes utilized. Boston's system is also called the T if i remember. Pittsburgh ran the PCC cars until 1999 before they switched to the new cars. It is pronounced Pat Transit.
@santaclaus10144 жыл бұрын
this was a treat for me growing up in pittsburgh riding these around town even more so at christmas, seeing these is sad and should have been restored to preserve the history.
@reedoverand50654 жыл бұрын
The “Allentown Line” trolley is from Pittsburgh. Allentown is a neighborhood in the city limits as well as Overbrook and Beechview which are in bold on the sign. All are in the South Side/South Hills of Pittsburgh.
@cassandrab83034 жыл бұрын
Used to live in Pgh and took the Allentown line to Beechview...sometimes rode the entire line from Wood St to South Hills Village Mall...that was usually an interesting ride..lots of characters
@harold.degand4 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to see that the tracks are still there. They continues after the hangar we can see at the end of the video. Some portions disappeared but in some spots, there are still out there. The street cars are on a storage way. Tracks stops in the wood.
@OneHonestGuy4 жыл бұрын
5:30 the pull string is to tell the operator you want off at the next stop, not immediately. :)
@EllicottCity14 жыл бұрын
Public buses in Baltimore City during my youth- early 90's had the same system. I had forgotten til I saw your comment 😉
@XSemperIdem54 жыл бұрын
Some old L.A. Metro buses still have those cords you pull to request the next stop. Newer buses have buttons.
@floramackintoshallen35774 жыл бұрын
In London busses there are buttons dotted around the bus which ring a bell telling the driver if you want to get off on the next stop, we still have them.
@CANControlGRAFFITI4 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t that long ago when that was a thing new jack
@hi.panorama4 жыл бұрын
I have to admire your ’urbex trips’ are must-see. I love devote my time to your channel. It’s my guilty pleasure and I encourage my family and friends to watch your episodes w/ me. Locations are extremely diversify and episodes are made in a perfection way. I admire your intro - I think it’s one of the best intro ever. I watch a lot of urbex channel but this is the most point-device channel. I admire your effort and cooperations (adverts); I think they are picked in a careful, deliberate way (I used to buy products from your cooperations and I am very glad about them).
@hotdogs52654 жыл бұрын
There are some Boston trolleys there. Some of those similar old cars are still in use today.
@ian_everywhere4 жыл бұрын
Indeed they are! Here's an article if anyone wants to read about the history of Boston's Green-Line Trains. www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2012/08/31/recent-changes-history-of-mbtas-green-line#
@amandapanda12884 жыл бұрын
Yup. Gotta love the green line .. 😅
@12595234 жыл бұрын
@@ian_everywhere Thank you for this. Wonderful reading... Alas, it's going to send me into the rabbit 🐇 hole 🕳️ of the interwebs tonight. But I still want to thank you for my soon to be increased knowledge on this fascinating time!
@ian_everywhere4 жыл бұрын
@@1259523 Glad to help! It's so fascinating how infrastructure changes over time. Enjoy the web surfing!
@gemista4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been in one when I visited, and it was pleasantly terrifying!
@Expatriate19774 жыл бұрын
The septa system was used in interurban service between the city and near suburbs. Chicago had that too and the nearest to it now is the L system which is an above ground subway transit system that dates back to the early 1900s. I love what you guys are doing. Keep it up!
@Poisson41472 жыл бұрын
The SEPTA cars were originally CTA 6000-series "L" cars built in the 1950s. When the aged Brill cars on the Norristown High Speed Line started failing and new replacements were delayed, SEPTA grabbed several pairs of scrap 6000s and had them trucked to Upper Darby. They did the bare minimum to get them running again and slammed them into service so quickly they still had their CTA colors. The CTAs showed every mile of their former lives on the "L", but saved the NHSL from being converted to buses.
@yettobseen4 жыл бұрын
Back in the days when large group of strangers from differing stations in life road together, talked and laughed. They were social and polite. Hard to believe we’ve fallen so far from what was.
@WebHackmd4 жыл бұрын
ok boomer
@yettobseen4 жыл бұрын
Zero Cool , I road one everyday school, and some did read the paper but I remember most people talking. I guess it depends on where you are from.
@willis98644 жыл бұрын
The Green ones are from Boston,my father used to drive them and when i was a kid in 80's i would go to work with him. I am sure that the ones you seen were in service in the 80's bc i remember being in those. Thanks for letting me take a trip down memory lane.
@KvnHcks4 жыл бұрын
Thank god for a new PP video
@cjredwine44294 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂I know the pun wasn't intended but yeaa I'm all stuck in the gutters XD
@hoggsoft4 жыл бұрын
You know I watch a lot of your shows when my son hears your theme song and has to come running into my room to watch.. cause he knows exactly what I am watching. He is 8 btw and loves your shows
@BerraLJ4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if these streetcars would have been left with the doors closed and windows not smashed, bet they would be in a lot better condition, sad that people have to destroy things.
@j3in7254 жыл бұрын
Rust would've got to them anyways
@michaelkessler38134 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have been as bad in places if the windows and doors were still closed, the graffiti on the exterior may help preserve some of the metal though
@SwedishEmpire17004 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkessler3813 The older ones would have rusted so badly that the windows fell out anyway, cant stop time just so you can go and take photos how much you pray and hope, time gets it all.
@liquidalloy4 жыл бұрын
I love that you guys do exactly me and my friends do when seeing places like this. Taking pictures and videos and ruining nothing.
@roadweary52524 жыл бұрын
2:45 Massachusetts Bay Transit authority Green line car for the B line - Boston College route. Haven’t seen one of those in years.... 9:10 Those are in fact Boston - the classic “T” on the side 👍 11:00 Not Boston Thanks for another great video, guys!
@amandapanda12884 жыл бұрын
Yes !! And that ad he zoomed in on confirmed it was definitely Boston with “Downtown Crossing”. Very cool!
@blue9multimediagroup4 жыл бұрын
That's Pittsburgh
@MephistoDerPudel4 жыл бұрын
The saddest thing of this is not the vandalism of the old street cars. It's the fact that they'Re there, not because there was a newer, better generation, but rather that they're there because the cities they moved where replaced with suburbs and highways. These are pieces that can remind you of a different america.
@davidblee8194 жыл бұрын
Good ol' PAT. "Let's take the PAT bus to Monroeville." "The T to Station Square." Good times.
@Cjnw4 жыл бұрын
#ButtersTheBean *and Mary, the **#SugarBean** have entered the chat* Mrrraw! #DailyDoseOfButters
@rtex85634 жыл бұрын
I visited San Francisco 3 years ago and rode on similar model streetcars there. They have a nice fleet of restored cars and they are painted the original colors of the cities they came from! They are so cool looking with the rounded fenders, windows, and interior lights. At the beginning of this video there was a yellow colored one from SF. I'm glad that some cities are restoring and saving these treasures!
@Poisson41472 жыл бұрын
They're called PCC cars, for Presidents' Conference Committee. In the early 1930s the heads of multiple trolley systems joined together to create a standard design that could simply be customized for each system rather than building one-offs. To huge numbers of people PCCs are the quintessential streetcar design!
@blitzbiker20014 жыл бұрын
Do you ever want to see the abandoned steam locomotives up here in Maine?
@mikemulholland28624 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Philly, it was interesting to see all the SEPTA cars. Thanks for bringing this to us.
@davidmaclean7134 жыл бұрын
Sweet ! Was wondering when you guys would upload and bam !
@Chris-ml8hs3 жыл бұрын
You guys are first class , thank you for taking the time an effort to bring places like this to life where most of us would never see .
@sc121944 жыл бұрын
11:07 That car is from Allegheny Transit Authority in Pittsburgh
@markfromct24 жыл бұрын
Welcome back guys.....love your videos! Thank you! I lived in Zagreb Croatia and would take street cars every day. Yes they still have them there! It was really cool to experience that. Keep in mind that graffiti would have been there from when they were in use. Back in the 60's 70's subway cars in NYC were covered with graffiti. They did a good job in securing them better in the yards and removing it. Seldom see a tag on a car there anymore. 11:13 it is Pittsburgh.
@cryipticcreep55864 жыл бұрын
Finally....Love this Channel I wonder how long it would take Mother Nature to re-claim EVERYTHING humans have built......1000 years? 2000 years..? Hmmm
@jeremywilliams94704 жыл бұрын
From what I have read Mt Rushmore will be one of the last remaining human artifacts. It’s carved into solid granite which erodes at a rate of about 1 inch every 10,000 years. The noses on the faces are 240 inches long which would mean the faces would still be recognizable for around 2.4 million years. The only things I can think of that would/could destroy it (other than human stupidity) is a meteor or a glacier caused by another ice age. Food for thought.
@capicolaspicy4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you guys so much! I grew up in the early 50's in southern CT, about 25 miles from Manhattan...brings back old memories!
@moqi324 жыл бұрын
14:45 "its slammed" hahaha
@xmangox58323 жыл бұрын
This is insane. I'm just so instantly fascinated by these age old abandoned places. Whenever I watch these I get a rush of chills as if it's a horror movie.
@Shag4714 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video, boys! Thank you ! 🙂
@basshunter41444 жыл бұрын
guys one of the things i like about your vids is the narrative thx so much for sharing i for one will say well done. waiting for the next one be safe.
@johnp1394 жыл бұрын
Did you find one named “Desire”?
@issyhalecullen4 жыл бұрын
Seeing all of those Trolleys was so surreal. It takes you back into that moment in time and you can imagine them running. Such a shame that people had to destroy them as they did. Great explore guys!
@JohnDoe-bd5sz4 жыл бұрын
While i agree that the vandals have destroyed them somewhat, but still, it seemed like nature has taken a way bigger toll on these cars than the vandals.
@nancysantamarialatica11414 жыл бұрын
Longest longest time follower here much love guy. I’m Always surprised with these crazy ass locations. Keep the Shitt up . I’m so proud man
@terrystrahl60064 жыл бұрын
These Streetcars are more like the 40's & 50's Vintage .... Cool find! As you can see very sadly there are people that have no respect for the past and you can see that even more today.
@Poisson41472 жыл бұрын
Yes - the PCC design was introduced in 1936 but most were built in the 1940s and early 1950s. The SEPTA cars at 3:51 were former CTA "L" cars made during the 1950s, although they included a lot of recycled PCC components.
@maxprivate38054 жыл бұрын
A Streetcar Named Discarded.
@Bigbadwhitecracker4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Tennessee Williams reference
@egibs204 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the only ones I can really watch without getting motion sick!!!
@theliteraltrashcosplay49714 жыл бұрын
They were all so beautiful (aside from the graffiti, or course). Its a shame to hear that people went out of their way to destroy pieces of history like this.
@NirateGoel4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, and now they will never see work again left to rot. It's even worse when it's something that's been actively repaired, and looked after when they're burnt to husks, destroyed or treated like fing bathrooms.
@theliteraltrashcosplay49714 жыл бұрын
@Zero CoolTo me, there's a sort of beauty in natural decay, and as it was mentioned in the video, most of the graffiti took away some of that awe, though there were a few good pieces.
@vekst4 жыл бұрын
@Zero Cool When people break into building(s) though to tag the ones that were in good condition though, like TPP said in the video?
@TheWolfiet4 жыл бұрын
the weird thing is, some of these that have been extensively painted are actually being semi preserved. the coats of paint will help prevent rust. Either way this is really cool.
@rachelcorning63684 жыл бұрын
damn, didn't expect this to be so sad :\
@Steve-uq7np4 жыл бұрын
The most thing I respect about you guys......is that you do your research on the sites....... motto bom