Exploring Elder Scrolls: Dragon Breaks

Apparently the Numidium's siege on the Altmer capital city caused them to surrender after an hour, but due to the dragon break, they continued to battle into the fifth era.
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[@Denazon]

A smart way to get around multiple endings or inconsistent writing.

[@nivaldomonte5441]

Denazon at first, yes, but on the whole, no. The lore actually depends on such notions of non-linear time, juxtaposition of timelines and metaphysical cosmology to make any sense at all, on nearly any level. The inconsistencies are everywhere, and purposefully so. Part of the concept of canon for the series is that perspective and bias need to be taken into account, and sometimes, all accounts of a single event, no matter how seemingly contradictory, are true.

[@Felahliir]

So basically, yes.

[@nivaldomonte5441]

Zakaria mostly no, actually. The lack of consistency doesn't really give space for lazy writing. Most of the time, it allows for higher levels of complexity and a more realistic understanding of different entities. It also allowed for the concept of aspects to grow in the lore and become something unique to the Elder Scrolls series. It also allowed for temporal anomalies to become another trademark of the franchise and made the characters feel more vivid, as well as allowing for discussions on how to perceive a certain character that feels larger than life. And sometimes, we do get the answers we wanted, we simply didn't know them for most of the time, and we didn't need the right answers as much as we needed the right questions revolving an event or a person.

[@Felahliir]

Which is why it is genius, in my opinion.

[@Ysbriel]

Denazon True but in a universe as TES i believe inconsistencies should exist the same way our human history has them overall, it creates room for mystery. A lot if people complain about the Lore being broken and i totally embrace that because it makes the whole TES world feel alive

[@femmedracula6857]

I like that the Red Moment is a widely accepted lore theory now. When I first proposed a dragon break happened on Red Mountain back in 2003, people on the Elder Scrolls lore forum flamed the heck out of me because it was a "stupid idea."

[@janbelcher1896]

Bean Álainn i mean, it's accepted, and it's fucking badass. But also stupid because in short the answer is just "time no work no more"

[@Swaggerpede]

i bet you feel great hahaha

[@artightrokay9131]

damn you must be old

[@rauntche]

I kneel, O Elden Nerd

[@TovenDo.O.Video-]

The Dragons Breaks make possible for every playtrough to be canon

[@Kurai_69420]

Dragon Broke Understandable, have a nice day.

[@umedyn8371]

Who wants to bet that the Skyrim Civil War is a Dragon Break? Makes sense, Alduin being defeated, the rise of the first and the last dragonborn, and a mortal entering into Sovenguard. So many earth shattering moments occur for it to make sense that this point in time would be one.

[@nutcrackit7396]

you may be right. I can see the result being that skyrim is both independent and part of the empire at the same time. The actual truth being that the empire is now called something like the skyrim-cyrodiilic empire. There would be 2 rulers that being the high king of skyrim and the emperor in cyrodiil. Also sorry that I am replying to a comment made over a year ago.

[@mothbutt3832]

@@nutcrackit7396 ur gay

[@mrman517]

I mean Alduin literally exploded when we killed him so yeah, I'd say the dragon broke XD

[@Schneeregen_]

Skyrim takes place in a Dragon Break as it is how the Elder Scrolls avoids ruining player choice by having only 1 true ending, TES6 will probably have people arguing over whether the Empire or Stormcloaks won originally, but will have Skyrim be either in the Empire or Independent instead of being in a strange middle state, it'll just complicate how it got there.

[@alexcronen1689]

Yeah but there were already dragonborns throughout tamrielic history, i.e the entire septim dynasty, and, miraak I like the civil war being a dragon break idea but there were always other dragonborn

[@highgrove8545]

I really like the concept of a dragon break. Could also be used for some interesting stories, men who never existed being crowned kings, items that only partially exist, as in one timeline they were destroyed.

[@august7535]

So going by this logic, if you think about it, if the Dwemer were banished in time as Alduin was, they could eventually return at any moment in the future and the world as we know it could fall to chaos with them back in Tamriel.

[@Geraduss]

Every "Dragon Break" starts with a boardroom meeting that goes like this. "Shit we've written our selves in to a corner, what do we do!?" And there is that one guy in the back. "I know, Dragon Break!"

[@sir3543]

Shit. Do you work at Bethesda?

[@maxmazza2987]

I like to think that whenever a Dragon Break occurs, an elderly Akatosh shouts in pain and grabs either his back or hip, cursing the mortals that caused it. Lol

[@CalamityDiamond]

"When will you wake up and realize what really happened to the Dwarves?"

[@willl676]

They were welded into the Numidium though I posit they zero summed.

[@tylerjaynes822]

They weren't, and they didn't. There's a quest in Skyrim where they specifically tell you what happened. They were transported to a different dimension..likely Oblivion.

[@isaiahriley7516]

Where were you when the dragon broke?

[@Ordravn]

That is the theory I most agree with, if not them being banished to a different time period or timeline. Them becoming the skin of Numidium theory is just dumb.

[@twibz4629]

the only evidence we have of the dwemer existing are texts and the skin on the ogmha infinium

[@battlebear7214]

The biggest question I have about Dragon Breaks is this: Do dragon breaks create different time lines where a single outcome is true for each time line, or do Dragon Breaks somehow make all possible ke events all happen in the same time line?

[@DrunkTigerGrill]

Every timeline created by a dragonbreak eventully all come back together to form the single timeline we know.In this new singular timeline all the events that happened during the dragon break are all equally true.Some remember things differently than others.Some people stop existing.Some exist but havent existed prior to the dragon break.It depents on the lenght of time of the dragon break.I am no lorebeard but I thing that is how it works in general.

[@AngraMainiiu]

You have to realise that time is non linear in TES lore. So discard your simplistic notions of "timelines" and know that the future actions of people like Talos and Vivec, changed the past.

[@AngraMainiiu]

Also time is a cardinal direction, East and West, North and South. I will leave the significance of this up to you...

[@ThrottleKitty]

The world of Elder Scrolls isn't like ours. Think of an entire reality of literal NPCs in a video game, they are all parts of a simulation. When a Dragon Break occurs it's as if the main simulation stops, several separate ones are ran, and eventually the original reboots with parts of each incorporated.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Throttle Kitty the dragonbreak isn't due to the god heads dream breaking, it's due to people fucking with time and Akatosh going, I ain't having any of this shit, and just merging it all together

[@jacobfreeman5444]

Well, if you look at TES as a story that writes itself then dragon breaks are when each possible narrative path becomes true. Which may be why even the scrolls have a hard time with it. All and none of the narrative paths are true so the scrolls cannot show you anything conclusive. This line of thought could explain though why an elder scroll could fling Alduin forward in time. They used the scroll to rewrite the narrative. But forcing such a thing had consequences. Alduin was supposed to exist back then, not at that far forward time. Thus a bridge between the two occurs.

[@OokamiKageGinGetsu]

Which explains why the swords in Oblivion and Morrowind look like later sword typologies, and the swords in Skyrim resemble more like our world's Migration period between the Viking age and the Medieval age. The past was flung into the future along with Alduin, so even though people's records of time progression is linear, something happened to affect the stream of time in which sword technology advanced. Seriously, read Ewart Oakeshott's "The Sword in the Age of Chivalry". Skyrim swords more closely resemble late Viking age steel swords, while Morrowind and Oblivion swords look more like later Medieval "knightly" arming swords. www.e-reading.club/bookreader.php/135704/The_Sword_in_the_Age_of_Chivalry.pdf

[@jacobfreeman5444]

David Interesting. But that was just Bethesda being Bethesda I bet. They designed for aesthetics rather then linear evolution of design.

[@OokamiKageGinGetsu]

That's a more likely reason. They wanted everything to have more of a Norse feel to it since it's happening where the Nords live. The single sized upper noble's bed with the dragons on the side (I'm sure you've seen it) is based on the bed found on the burial ship at Sutton hoo. But I still hold that Alduin *did* go, in part, to the past. He went to the future, but a part of the past went with him.

[@nikolapetrovic4814]

Elder Scrolls lore is far more interesting than the games themselves.

[@jmm1233]

clever way of adding that scifi element to a fantasy series

[@jacobwinter6954]

You have just touched upon the most difficult concept in the lore. Here's to hoping you get it right.

[@theywalkinguptoyouand4060]

Morvil wouldn't you know if he got it right if you had watched the video before commenting?

[@iamthebasement6280]

+proudblackjynx you imply that morvil would be able to tell if he got it right

[@haydengreene6653]

A N E W H A N D H A S T O U C H E D T H E B E A C O N.

[@PSNSMANIACALMIND1st]

LOL definitely not the most complicated.

[@sushanalone]

So Dragonbreaks happen when my character dies and i accept Yes to reload a previous save.

[@the_dropbear4392]

sushanalone no

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

No but that would be cool

[@royce536]

@@lonestarwolfentertainment7184I would argue that it kinda is. It's like Chim but not really

[@noangles1564]

It's more like you load multiple saves at the same time, and they become one. Like a quest with multiple endings. All outcomes happen

[@fluffdafire157]

Long story short using the numidium breaks time

[@shallabim912]

fluff dafire Goddamn Dwemer... It took me three days to make that time!

[@astrothebadger]

nice potato salad parody

[@FuzzyLittleBastard]

Because dwemer...

[@stalker747alf7]

it was actually tiber septims turning into a god in TES 2

[@AnAmbientGrey]

It just works

[@krissisk4163]

I suspect that we'll have a Dragon Break occurring during the events of Skyrim whenever TES6 finally comes out. Destroy the Dark Brotherhood vs doing the Dark Brotherhood questline, the three possible outcomes of the civil war, the two possible outcomes of the Dawnguard storyline, the two possible outcomes of the Dragonborn storyline, not to mention the fact that the Last Dragonborn was messing around with time himself. There are just so many different paths you can take in the game - and many of us have taken them all - that Bethesda will have to come up with something.

[@FelipeSalesGuitar]

Kris Sisk but whats the cause of this dragon break ?

[@harsabudiwardana9121]

Felipe Salles Alduin’s defeat and the Dragonborn prophecy fulfilled (?)

[@shrek6723]

@@FelipeSalesGuitar The rise of the last dragonborn, The fall of the first dragonborn, The end of a civil war, A mortal enters Sovangarde, A mortal enters the Soul Cairn, Alduin dies, An emporer dies, The Psijics intervene to stop the end of the world, And this all happens at pretty much the same time. There's probably even more, but I'd say that's more than enough ways for a Dragon Break to occur.

[@johnnygyro2295]

The events of Skyrim being another Dragon Break wouldn't surprise me. Especially since we fight Alduin who, depending on who you ask, is either Akatosh's son or one of his aspects...

[@FuzzyLittleBastard]

I want to see a quest in a future game where the tip of the mountain just appears out of nowhere. That would be fine

[@WarlordSaint]

Still the most confusing concept in the series but I guess thats the point......I think

[@AngraMainiiu]

No that would be the Walking Ways and the Psijic Endeavor

[@AngraMainiiu]

Mr Dudemangeezermate Those are actually quite easy to explain in layman's terms. However getting to CHIM has always been of much contention.

[@AngraMainiiu]

Mr Dudemangeezermate You should look up the the Rebublic of Hahd (A comic from the kalpa of Lyg). It reminded me of how Drakengard and Nier intertwined despite having alternate histories.

[@AngraMainiiu]

Mr Dudemangeezermate Also an interesting thing about Lyg is that in a meta sense it was the previous kalpa of the current one. During the development of Morrowind, the devs had a world building session where a lot of ideas were had but before they could write anything down, a fire started and they had to evacuate. Thus Lyg is the "lost" version of Tamriel that never came to be...

[@Sam-lf3hn]

Nope. Unfortunately the Dragon Breaks serve as a way to make sure all endings in a game are cannon because Bethesda don't have the balls to create a true cannon in the Elder Scrolls games. Ever wonder why we never hear of the previous Elder Scrolls protagonists? Bethesda have them conveniently disappear and nobody in the games remember what their names were, what race they were, what gender they were and even what they did. It's bad writing and bad game design.

[@kitten2799]

This is why i love the elder scrolls.

[@kitten2799]

FLGSC thank you.

[@kitten2799]

Bob Pickleson maybe maybe not. I don’t really care

[@zurinarctus1329]

If you like Elder Scrolls, you must like me as well.

[@sir3543]

FLGSC If someone else's opinion is ruining your enjoyment then that's on you.

[@sir3543]

@Leo Jansen He's not, though. He's absolutely correct. Just go take a look at the butchered lore in ESO and stop denying facts.

[@lucius5787]

Dragon brake = Mandella Effect

[@shupasopni]

I was looking for this. That sounds about right.

[@charlesdana4132]

Mass Mandella Effect

[@dabestodabest1319]

3:49 if that's true, then in tes6 dwemer will appear again just like alduin, I hope so

[@AngraMainiiu]

Sure if TES 6 takes place in the 9th Era, maybe they will unfuse from the Numidium!

Angra Mainyu you assume the dragon break had nothing to do with their disappearance, which is absurd

[@Lightscribe225]

Well it is. Numidium didn't activate when they disappeared.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Lightscribe225 it did activated and erases them from existence/bound them to its skin

[@ultratankie]

My understanding of Dragon Breaks is that a few things happen when they occur: 1.) AKA, the overarching Time God of whom Akatosh, Auriel, and Alduin are all part, goes insane and loses control of linear time, 2.) Because time is no longer linear, it reverts to the Dawn Era, the primordial origin-days of Mundus or possibly of the entire universe, 3.) While in the Dawn Era, each of the et'Ada, the gods and Daedra, seize "absolute" power over creation, which results in a new timeline being born based on the whims of each, all of which contradict each other. Thus, from the POV of someone living through a Dragon Break, time seems perfectly normal aside from a few weird things, like the presence of bright blue stars in the daytime sky, or the possibility of a long-dead god approaching you on the road for a friendly chat. It's only after the break *ends* that things get weird, because Akatosh has finally regained control and done his best to combine all of those contradictory timelines into one, which is hard enough as it is without doing so in a way that makes sense to mortals. Suddenly, you're seeing four armies control a region that had forty kings yesterday and one ruler an hour ago, and realizing that everyone else says two days passed from sunrise to sunset... and that's just the Warp in the West. During the Middle Dawn, some people lived in a version of the Alessian Empire which became a galaxy-spanning scifi nation, while others lived in a Cyrodiil that "became an egg," whatever the fuck that means. Oh, and it's also worth noting that Dragon Breaks are somewhat famous for retroactively creating new gods, which makes sense when you consider that the Dawn Era is also known for that sort of thing. The Red Moment led to the birth of the Tribunal, who simultaneously have mortal and immortal histories prior to that year which no one seems able to sort out; the Middle Dawn created Akatosh himself, which imo is the single most important event of the entire Elder Scrolls multiverse; and the Warp in the West plus the first activation of Numidium saw the origin of Talos as a god, which some people say he wasn't recognized as before since Arena and Daggerfall don't depict him (but Morrowind does), but for the sake of avoiding time-travel paradoxes, I like to imagine he always existed and it's the games themselves that were retconned.

[@davemarx7856]

Obroa-skai 😦?

[@spek3811]

The fuck do you mean, "became an egg?"

[@ultratankie]

Excellent question. I'd answer if I could. The exact block of text I'm getting that from reads: "No one understands what happened when the [Marukhati] Selectives danced on that tower. It would be easy to dismiss the whole matter as nonsense were it not for the Amulet of Kings. Even the Elder Scrolls do not mention it -- let me correct myself, the Elder Scrolls cannot mention it. When the Moth Priests attune the Scrolls to the timeless time their glyphs always disappear. The Amulet of Kings, however, with its oversoul of emperors, can speak of it at length. According to Hestra, Cyrodiil became an Empire across the stars. *According to Shor-El, Cyrodiil became an egg.* Most say something in a language they can only speak sideways. The Council has collected texts and accounts from all of its provinces, and they only offer stories that never coincide, save on one point: all the folk of Tamriel during the Middle Dawn, in whatever 'when' they were caught in, tracked the fall of the eight stars. And that is how they counted their days." -Councilor Corax, Elder Councilor of the First Empire

[@spek3811]

So *that's* why the people of Skyrim hate it when you attack chickens. They don't want you to fuck up and turn everything into an egg like poor Cyrodiil was. Huh.

[@diamondmetal3062]

Wow, imagine how weird it would be playing through a Dragon Break. First off, Cyrodiil would be an egg. Everything about it would be an egg. It is conceptually an egg. It is physically an egg. Perhaps it is an egg for Akatosh, since you mentioned that Akatosh could’ve been retroactively “born(?)” in one of these Dragon Breaks. Also, if the Empire temporarily(?) became a galaxy-spanning superpower, that means that at some point(?), The Elder Scrolls was Sci-Fantasy. Starfield is Elder Scrolls _i_ confirmed.

[@TheBelieveit1]

This might be how they deal with the Civil War in Skyrim since you have the option of choosing between the Empire and the Stormcloaks. Especially since Alduin comes back through the Time Wound which may or may not have caused a Dragon Break to begin with. And think about it, if Alduin didn't return at that time, the Stormcloak rebellion would have ended there, but because of him, the Last Dragonborn survived and was thus introduced to the Civil War and could choose a side. Considering that the protagonists in the Elder Scrolls series are reincarnations of the first who removed himself from the Elder Scrolls (and thus was free to choose his own destiny and path) you could potentially argue that each one in of themselves is a living form of the Dragon Break as we even saw this in books when talking about the Hero of Kvatch, saying he did help save the world but that there were many conflicting accounts of what he did between and after. Did he join the Dark Brotherhood? Become the Grey Fox? Take up the mantel of Sheogorath? Technically if all these games since Daggerfall took place during Dragon Breaks, this could explain how you could be all at once, especially considering they already explained that you're not bound by the Elder Scrolls and thus able to be everything.

[@omegasupreme2200]

Wait up fella, ya saying some stuff wrong but i will explain some of it: The main questslines of every game its the normal story (duh) and the DLC's, we forget about Dark Brotherhood and other guilds quests because they are called side quests. 1 The hero of Kvatch is now the Daedric Prince Sheogorath (play Skyrim side quests on Solitude ya know) 2 The Dark Brotherhood main protagonist is an unknow dude just like the rest of the other guilds and the events of the guild quests are 100% cannon and only in Skyrim (i completed DB in Skyrim and didn't do on Oblivion) Cicero can either be forgiven or its dead but the assassin actually killed the Emperor 3 The last Dragonborn sided whit the Dawnguard (for obivious reasons) and defeated Miraak and its all cannon 4 idk what to say but most of the stuff its not an Dragon Break, and the Skyrim Civil War has 2 endings or 3 endings (ask me if ya want to know the third) so probally it wont happen an Dragon Break or probally will happen. Also yes im cometing in an 3 year old comment or old comment

[@DarthBigBen]

I love this video, but you forgot to mention one minor, yet disturbing and interesting part of the Middle Dawn. Apparently, there were instances of people giving birth to their parents during this period.

[@shupasopni]

This also happens in Homestuck and Fire Emblem: Fates.

[@DarthBigBen]

shupasopni People giving birth to their parents?

[@2ndrack]

dragon breaks break my head.

[@davemarx7856]

You're not alone.

[@davemarx7856]

Del Deleon But during a dragon break a person can be both dead and not dead. Things only stop being schrodinger _after_ the break.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

They can even be something inbetween and off both directions.

[@alexcronen1689]

Imagine this: the civil war of Skyrim ending with both sides winning because of a dragon break

[@goodenoughright5433]

A dragon break would be an easy way to solve the Skyrim Civil War for the next game

[@jjakkal_]

*looks at time ****3:20**** am and has school tomorrow* eh everyone makes mistakes right? Great vid either way

[@donjefe409]

B- Fitzy yo it’s 7 am for me. Didn’t get sleep at all. I’m screwed.

[@err0r0b0]

Perhaps a dragon break occurs when one of the dragons on the Oroboro escapes the mouth of its consumer. Extending the current age anew. But dragon breaks mark the beginning of an inevitable end, most recently, Alduin.

[@LoreanGlaymore]

This is why they can make what they want in Elder scrolls NLINE, cause after all, a Dragon break will occur and everything will be fine ^^

[@Mohawks_and_Tomahawks]

Dragon Breaks are when the Godhead momentarily wakes up, rolls over, and immediately goes back to sleep (before becoming fully conscious), and then continues the Elder Scrolls dream.

[@skbartistry2473]

Dragon breaks are the Elder Scrolls equal to Quantum Mechanics. Both are equally hard to understand. None can be completely understood by a single individual. And every possibility can happen simultaneously in both a Dragon Break and in Quantum Mechanics, as in Quantum Mechanics a single atom can be at two different places at the same time and only be at one place once definitively defined by something while observed by someone. However, just because it is defined, doesen't mean that it is bound and thus someone else can simultaneously define it somewhere else and both are equally right and wrong. Same goes for Dragon Breaks. All possibilities, all lives, all creations and destructions to take place, everything is both true and false. All of it has both happened, while never having existed. It is hard for us humans to understand, because we try to use our kind of logic to understand it. But logic is powerless when presented with a reality that is equally real as it's a dream or a fantasy. Logic is powerless against the highest levels of philosophy, as everything and nothing is possible then.

[@TC-th1ey]

So, did: A. The Numidium blow up, B. Tiber Septim use the Numidium to conquer the known world, C. The Numidium fall and crush our hero, D. All of the above, and so much more.

[@ThrottleKitty]

The concept of the Dragon Break and CHIM (As well as many parts of the universe, and the Aedrea's origins) point to the possibility of the TES universe being a simulation. Not a video game, but a fully simulated reality. The deities are actual living beings that exist outside of the simulation, same with those that achieve CHIM.

[@AngraMainiiu]

No, everyone is well within the dream. The only difference is that they are aware of it.

[@ThrottleKitty]

That's what is more directly implied, that it is a dream and the entities are a part of it... But if it s simulation and not a dream, surely it would make since for those who created it to exist outside of it, controlling only "avatars" inside of it? Though, maybe CHIM is an NPC becoming truly self-aware? It's a mystery.

[@AngraMainiiu]

Again, no. It has been confirmed to be a dream created by the Amaranth (Anu), once one has achieved CHIM, they walk the path to potentially creating a new dream and become an Amaranth of their own world.

[@zurinarctus1329]

Amaranth has been confirmed canon in ESO.

[@AngraMainiiu]

Cyrus The HoonDing Thank you for showing him de wae.

[@B0R3D901]

i wonder if Serana, Parthuurnax, or Gelabor felt the dragon breaks, or can recall them in detail

[@B0R3D901]

well, not serana, maybe Valerica

[@Xo-3130]

Dragons likely can due to being tiny pieces of the Oversoul of the Time God.

[@zebuldevil5499]

I’ve never thought about that concept of the dwarves being sent forward in time. Maybe sent far enough so the rest of civilization will be truly ready for their amazing technology

[@shrek6723]

Fans: complain about plotholes, bad writing and question what the canon ending is. Todd Howard: Oh, you haven't heard?

[@WolfgangF88]

Chronomancers be like

[@EmiCheese]

Just stop touching the damn Numidium

[@GorlliaGrodd]

I always look forward to your video's man! Thanks for being one of my favorite channels.

[@betweenthehammerandanvil]

so basically it's just a big mandela effect.

[@SCVM45]

Actually, skyrim civil war is a dragon break. It would have to be, considering how you choose which part of the battle you want to win.

[@llsheoll5986]

A Dragon Break banishing the Dwemer back in time would make sense....since the Dwemer were in Morrowind when the Chimer for there......perhaps they were sent back so then they could live and build until their ineveitable banishment

[@tylerjaynes822]

So....Mandella Effect...but less Sinbad being in a Genie movie, and more world cataclysmic events that didn't happen but also did happen.

[@tienkieu4806]

Virgin Fantasy Franchises: Inconsistent storyline. The chad Elder Scroll: *Dragon Breaks*

[@nathanialt.59]

I wonder if a Dragon Break will be used to allow both the Stormcloaks and the Imperials to have a partial victory in the Skyrim Civil War by the time of TES VI

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

interesting idea about the dwemer what if they were sent back in time similar to alduin and they were the first ones to be on tamriel so they were there own ancestors this would explain why they are so advanced and why they were supposed to already be in morrowind before the chimer arrived

[@piercedfreak27]

so the dragon breaks are different than the time nodes? where time splits into alternate and parallel existences. Or are Dragon Breaks just another name for these time nodes. Doesn't vivec's transition to godhood allow him to see all of time and its possibilities.

[@tassadar101r]

"Good writing"

[@barackyobama6139]

When you write yourself in a corner and it isn't lore friendly.

[@scz320]

An exploring dark souls or bloodborne video would be cool, the lore is great in both games

[@connorsullivan2745]

The Time Wound was probably not a Dragon Break, but was the cause of them all. Dragon Breaks never happened until the Time Wound, but then they seemed to be everywhere, particularly whenever divinity was involved, as Alduin is quite clearly related to the aedra. When Alduin came back, it opened a hole back to when time got all messed up, and the time breaks suddenly happen with increased frequency (hint hint, the ending of the civil war).

[@rengarajankrishna8853]

Unknown hero : Most people think time is like a river that flows swift and sure in one direction. I have seen the face of time and I can tell you they are wrong. Time is an ocean in a storm! Prince of Persia : Hey! You don't have the copyright to say it. And you are dead. Unknown hero : Ah! Yes as I said most people think... Prince of Persia : Shut up!!

[@DjDannyD88]

Never heard of dragons break till I saw this video.

[@calebsantos9561]

Isn't all of ESO one massive Dragon Break?

[@hydro_pyro]

Caleb Santos no ESO comes before any of the games

[@kadend.6685]

What if the Civil War in Skyrim is a Dragonbreak

[@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin]

You forget the biggest dragon break of all Landfall

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4545]

Turning on the big robot fucks with time, got it

[@loC2ol]

Ive always wondered where this guy lives, he sounds like he’s from the United States but he uploads his videos at like 1am For me (west coast) so like anywhere else in the US would be even later!!! Anyway I Love your channel! And I Love your Elder Scrolls videos!

[@donjefe409]

Chase Carter I’ve thought the same thing :)

[@TheExploringSeries]

Wisconsin.

[@loremaster234]

You can set up a schedule for when it uploads. So he could be asleep when it goes up :)

[@loC2ol]

You, Dunky, AND Red Letter Media!!?! All from Wisconsin, that state needs to renamed its self “the best youtubers state”

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

Try making one on achieving chim and other forms of godlike power.

[@chromosomejohnny8596]

7:00 the imperial empire. Top kek

[@SheosMan117]

To jump lores, I heard that it's possible that Breath of the Wild is actually a Dragon Break with regards to the Zelda timeline.

[@docdat3468]

Anytime someone drinks tea with milk, Sugar or citrus a dragonbreak happens

[@ethanmalcolm6088]

Damn time zones are confusing.

[@matthewcecil8552]

Good quote there at the end.

[@JXEditor]

4:02 *1008

[@therethan-family1234]

Wasn't Tiber Septim ascending the throne retconned into achieving chim and thus a dragon break occuring? Before ESO, it was stated that when he achieved chim, he was able to transform the lush jungles into the heartlands that cyrodiil is today. But in ESO, the provence was already the lands we know from oblivion. Some in-game books said that this was a interpretation error from an old historian, but others believed that the moment Tiber Septim achieved chim, he was able to retroactively change the lands so that they would've always been the heartland we know.

[@hunterhoose9375]

Dragonbreak for the civil war in skyrim?

[@MrBig913]

Could you do a video on the towers of tamriel lile the adamantine tower and thw white gold tower

[@Sara3346]

I know you don't do them very much anymore and might not see this but I want to let you know I always loved your "" adjective, adjective, adjective proper name.'' intros succinct to the point and impactful because of that formatting. Also help to give your channel just a bit of unique flair and of itself.

[@the_dropbear4392]

The Time wound wasn't a dragonbreak, it was just Alduin being sent through time, it didn't break time

[@ManInAFrogSuit]

"doodoo dragons unique connection with akatosh" 😭😭😭

[@JS-lo7eh]

To everyone complaining about this , its better than its alternatives such deus ex in which your widely different choices mush together somehow or the witcher where your choices don't matter because only one is cannon.

[@edwinramirez1019]

Dwarves didn't zero sum, they moved in time, which why they can't be found anywhere. It's not a where they went but a when.

[@royce536]

Paradoxical, non linear, dragon break but every one calls it plot device

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

It’s mindfuckery such as this that separates The Elder Scrolls franchise from other Fantasy franchises like The Lord Of The Rings and A Song Of Ice And Fire, and is exactly why I love it more then both of them (not to say those two franchises are bad no no no I love those two it’s just I prefer TES because it’s confusing in a manner much like our own real life Universe, plus it’s not just Fantasy it’s got some hints of Science Fiction in it)

[@ozajasz6079]

All of theories about disapperance of the Dwemer are truth because dragon breaks

[@justinpalmer5750]

Is it possible that the player in themselves are a dragon break meaning that every choice the players make creates a new time line

[@tylerjaynes822]

I think that's the implication Dragonbreaks are choices in a big choice tree that are all possibilities and all completely true at the same time whether or not they contradict. Kinda like how you become the champion of the Imperials OR the Stormcloaks while being the Dragonborn while being the leader of the companions, while being the Listener for the Dark Brotherhood, while being the Arch Mage of the College, while being the leader of the Thieves Guild Lol

[@EzioIlMentore]

I'm a bit confused here. So like, imagine a love triangle that occurs during a dragon break, where two guys were trying to win over a girl. The timeline diverge into whichever guy she ends up falling in love with, and as a result, she gives birth to two children of different timelines and raises them. When the dragon break ends, does that mean the children will experience seeing a sibling suddenly but seamlessly appear out of nowhere? Would the mother also suddenly have memories of raising both children?

[@duckspeaker2702]

2:01 Doo doo dragons

[@JacobSmith-uo1fx]

I'm going to make a wild guess that Yacuda (the original home of the red guards) aloud that continent to be brought into that world with the splitting of time with the dragon break. Does the time match?

[@jameswilkes451]

Yokuda was destroyed by Redguard magic which apparently allowed them to use sword techniques so powerful (a.k.a Pankratosword) that allowed them to split atoms and practically nuke the country to bits in one big event. Cyrus from the Redguard game apparently won in a fight against Vivec due to him successfully preparing to use it. However, due to the ambiguous nature of Dragon Breaks it could probs also be explained by one.

[@JohnD27018]

i would love to see a series where u talk about ur favorite books/ series of books.

[@porcupineracer2]

Did a great job explaining things but then you got to drop that Khajit quote.

[@lucaschilds9656]

All of these "scholarly misunderstandings" seem suspicious.

[@ChurchillGeoff]

Is ES6 going to make the Skyrim civil war a dragon break?

[@Jimjam-lk4ud]

Either that or they'll just vaguely mention it as if it's unclear who won

[@maarek71]

Dragon breaks = Lazy plot device used to weakly explain when lore writers screw up and contradict something previously introduced to the Elder Scrolls universe.

[@stephenborders2883]

They could use the dragonbreak to make both outcomes of the civil war in Skyrim cannon. If they wanted. I wouldn't do that but, they could.

[@Xo-3130]

A Skyrim thats semi-independant and ruled by the Empire with Ulfric Stormcloak as high-king...

[@cleansingnight7332]

I wonder if backwards time travel exists in the Elder Scrolls. I know forward time travel does (as shown by Alduin), but could you send someone back in time and change the events of the past, thus changing the Elder Scrolls' future?

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

Allan Donohue time in the elder scrolls goes in cycles and repeats itself. (Each time a different then the last) If you look at the redguard they are from another cycle that was ending and managed to be saved by the elves who they were slaves to. They later rebelled and completely exterminated those elves in a war that destroyed their new island home causing them to flee yet again to tamreal.

[@KoonsieN7]

Allan Donohue then you would have the grandfather paradox going on. That's the sorta shit that breaks time.

[@chancingproductions4453]

So basically without the dragon break/numidium Tiber septim wouldn’t have conquered the summerset

[@David-ps1rz]

I don't think Dragon Breaks are simply bad writing OR incredibly complex uber ultra mega LORE you need to get your shit straight with. (They're probably conveyed like that in the games to poke fun). To me it's a witty, tongue-in-cheek, fourth-wall breaking, Easter egg sort of concept that's present in all the games. It's hilariously frustrating, and on purpose! It's like in-game satire on the nature of shaping history in an RPG. YOU shape the history of Tamriel from your keyboards, ladies and gents. Bethesda's just having fun with it.

[@guymine1233]

That's it

[@ThrottleKitty]

This is the great divider. It is one of the deepest parts of TES lore, and by far the most complexly written. That won't stop people from complaining about how it's "bad", and always because they didn't bother to understand it. All those post do is make the person making them look like an uneducated and uncultured mouthbreather.

[@davemarx7856]

I have no problem admitting that it confuses me very much. I can't say it's good or bad because I literally don't know.

[@redseve]

If you have a video on Yokuda I haven't seen it yet, but I once heard that Yokuda existed in another timeline and transported themselves or the whole continent to the current elder scrolls timeline just before Alduin ended their timeline, and this is where the redguards came from, I was wondering if this fits into dragon breaks. I've also heard this is speculation and not confirmed lore but it is interesting how they're the only humans not to come from atmora or akavir

[@mihal2421]

Another great video for my morning coffee!

[@luminx]

So everthing we know so far that doesn't come from the games may not even true at all? Wow

[@Lightscribe225]

Gamma115 Or they could all be true.

[@luminx]

Lightscribe225 yess thats also true 😂 But its a cannonical reason to retcon the lore

[@God_Is_An_Atheist]

the entire concept of dragon breaks doesn't make sense, not even within the elder scrolls universe. According to what happened during "the warp in the west" - or Daggerfall - not only did the Blades succeed and reunited Tamriel under the empire once again, but also the Orcs succeed and got their own Kingdom and took over High Rock in the process. Even if we take dragon breaks into account and what they are supposed to mean, it just doesn't fit one bit with what happened in the games following daggerfall. We know that Tamriel wasn't united and we know that the Orcs don't have their own Kingdom, but according to the theory of the dragon breaks both must true and at least some people must remember one of these occurrences to be true. But we never find a single person within the games that actually remembers any of these two, even so Obvilion for example takes place only a few years after the events of Daggerfall (and since the emperor was the one giving us the mission in Daggerfall, someone should've mentioned something in Oblivion, yet noone did). That only leaves three events that can be true (putting aside that this was just the easy way for Bethesda to never mention any of this again): - Mannimarco got the Mantella and became a God (but noone mentioned him either, and wouldn't at least one person remember a new god?) - One Bay King got the Mantella and defeated everyone (which is the most likely scenario, because Morrowind is on the other side of the continent and during the Oblivion crises this King and the emperor had to deal with, well, the Oblivion crisis and Skyrim is set a few hundred years later, so it makes sense that we've never heard of that King) - the Underking got the Mantella, died and created a zone where nobody has or can use Magicka (which is unlikely, a area in Tamriel where noone can use Magic would cerntainly be mentioned by someone, especially within the mages guild or the college of Winterhold)

[@Martin_Stingers]

From what I understand of this video and the concept of dragon breaks, are essentially the explanation of the every "If" in all possibilities in a timeline. This is then the justification of the games mulitple contradicting or assimilated actions and/or endings to things. Dragon Breaks makes it so that a possibility one might or might not fullfill happen regardless of their actions. Some of these actions are direct, and some are not but either way, they become a influens of time and the events of the future. This can be explain with all the games. Take for example Skyrim. While the main story is linear and a inevitability and eventuality, every other quests are not. Take the dark brotherhood for example and look at their history. They have been a big influence in the whole lore in tamriel and their relationship with the imperial empire, which then just means that they have a whole big sum of value when it comes to lore and story of The Elder Scrolls. However, coming back to Skyrim, You can either choose to join them or kill them right off. What does this have to do with "Dragon Breaks"? Well, it is the choice that which creates a branch with two directions. Choose to join them and (*Spoiler*) Kill the Emperor, and like that, you have created a branch of future events lining up. You can also choose to kill Astrid and end the dark brotherhood in it's entirety (In Skyrim, at least) and there you have another branch of future events that lines up with that. But how does this relate to a "Dragon Break"? Well, Thinking outside the games and instead focus on what the developers of the games (Bethesda) are going to do. While it can be argued, the next game will either directly or indirectly have been influenced by the previous game (Skyrim). With that, one must then ask themselves, "Does this mean that the Emperor was killed and the dark brotherhood lives on or did their guild perish with all the members gone and the Emperor lives?" So here comes the part, Which of the two possibilities will likely come true in the next game?. Ask yourselves this; "But what happened to the actions that I made in the previous one, and if the game portrays the opposite branch as canon, does this just means that my actions didn't even matter?" In irl it can be argued that is either Bethesda control and their decision or Micheal Kirkbride's already set events outside the games (Open source lore and such). If instead going by the Elder Scrolls metaphysics and such, then "Dragon Breaks" would be these justification of why certain things (even if contradicting or assimilated) will be set in motion regardless of ones direct or indirect actions toward a seeming path. A interesting "Dragon Break" through the whole assassination of the Emperor would be that the dragonborn killed the Emperor and made the dark brotherhood lives on. In the next game, The emperor would still live but also the guild, where a "Dragon Break" happens with the dragonborn never interfered with the night mother. This is where Cicero and the Night mother still search for the "Listener" or that Astrid took over and made the guild only a shadow of itself and have a new path for themselves while still maintain a light faith of Sithis. I can be entirely wrong in all of this and just being too stupid to not understand the video, regardless, Thanks a bunch if you have read it this far, please lemme know what YOU think and critise or enlighthen me with other explanations, Again, thank you for reading, I hope you had fun thinking of all of this and the concept of "Dragon Breaks"!

[@rocketsofly]

2:00 you said doo-doo

[@LegatusLucius1994]

I wonder if this is what's happening with Elder Scrolls Online all these dragons popping up there aren't supposed to be any