Shovelware - The Causes and Consequences of Bad Licensed Games - Extra Credits

Games based on popular movies or books often turn out to be disappointing for fans of the original material. These poorly made cash-in games often spend most of their budget buying a brand license and then rush through development in order to match release deadlines. Especially now when they are moving to the growing mobile and handheld markets, their poor quality leaves a potential new base of consumers with a bad impression of games.
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[@Umneriko]

Shovel knight music at the end.... I see what you did there....

[@chromaphasia453]

I was about to comment that :p

[@TheFasof]

Me too LoL :D

[@Falcon15x]

Lol

[@CaptViewtiful98]

A video about Shovelware ends with a Shovel Knight Remix.

[@MrSmiley-en1ej]

Is that just a random pun?

[@YourUnoriginalBrony]

+FanNintendo98 I SEE WHAT THEY DID THERE.

[@DualVission]

I would not have realized that on my own. I need to play video games more often

[@benshaul6976]

+Unoriginal Brony yeah because it is shovelwear I am kidding Possibly Yes I am

[@goober3097]

Spongebob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom was a good game.

[@teu009]

Remake is coming!!!

[@alexosow]

@@teu009 When is that happening? I've been hearing about that for what seems like forever but I've seen nothing but a demo in the past year

[@j.d1972]

Party the release date is out, I forgot when tho

[@jamesminor4696]

June 23rd

[@alexosow]

Nvm guys it's coming out in like a month

[@GehennaGirls]

"when there's an exciting, short term gain staring you in the face, sometimes it's hard to see the long term damage you're doing. Even if it's to yourself." That's like, every problem in the world right there.

[@firebal6129]

That's pretty much what they say in a highly regarded econ book: "Economics in one Lesson" That and only looking at a smaller group of people, and not the whole

[@azericthetraveller6355]

So *THIS* is why mobile games are horrid.

[@normalguy729]

And their ads

[@blade1716]

Someday they will be good

[@KILLRXNOEVIRUS]

@@blade1716 Press X to doubt.

[@australienski6687]

Depends on the game. If it's a freemium game it's almost guaranteed to be bad, but the paid games I've played GTA, Civ 2 and 6 are decent. Two freemium games that are decent: RuneScape and Albion Online.

[@gnarkillguch]

Thinking about the mobile games market literally make me sick. It sucks that a lot of people are going to grow up thinking that that is what gaming is, and how it should be, F2P, Microtransactions etc.. Out of the hundreds of thousands of mobile games, there's maybe 10 that are actually worthwhile.

[@GideonGleeful95]

Star Trek: Texels. Perfect example of a terrible mobile game.

[@Ziko577]

This is why I don't get involved with stuff like that. Traditional is the way to go but even elements of F2P are seeping into those slowly as well.

[@KogXV]

I completely disagree with you, NO ONE WILL THINK THAT THE BEST OF GAMING IS JUST ON MOBILE. Everyone I know who play mobile games are aware that games on Pc, Xbox One and Ps4 are better. No one is saying "Mobile games are the best games out there!". It is like saying that McDonald is the best food out there, everyone is aware that there are better alternatives but more people don't care and why should they?If they want to eat at McD then that's fine and if they want to only play games on mobile then that's fine. If you go to Best Buy, GameStop, Game, or any other video game retailer they are selling XBoxs, PS4s, and 3DS games! They are demoing their games there! People see them all the time. You don't see mobile games getting a huge space like those others do you? People are do not think that mobile games are the best of the best, what you are worrying about does not exist. Some people can not afford or refuse to buy consoles or one reason or another and they play mobile. Some people are not into games that much and will play mobile games, that might actually bring more people into gaming!

[@Ziko577]

Yeah but eventually I bet they'll get tired of that and go get a 3DS, or Xbox or anything for that matter.

[@KogXV]

***** I don't know if you were talking to me but I was talking to gnarkillguch with my comment and I apologies if you thought I was referring to you. But my comment mention that there must be some people who are getting into gaming through mobile but are you sure that there are people who want to? If I am watching summer blockbusters in movie theaters will I try to watch movie classics? or look for something more Symbolic/intellectual? I have doubts. If people want to take the next step into gaming and buy a console or pc that's great! If they want to just play mobile games then its fine too.

[@huffee]

Wait... "grow up on Minecraft"? Am I too old for this show?

[@q306005]

Considering Extra Credits is targeted at people in the game development industry, no. You might be too young for the show actually.

[@InazumaDash]

q306005 He meant people who grow up on Minecraft should be 5-14 years now.

[@fireaza]

SUGAR PEAS!

[@siy202]

TalesOfGamerz I'm 16 and i grew up with Counter strike 1.6, half life, Mortal Kombat and GTA VC. so i think that you're overestimating a bit.

[@InazumaDash]

siy202 Counter Strike still exists? The boys played that back in middle school, I'm 23 now. I was almost positive everyone moved over to CoD. You're the exception, most guys your age have no freaking idea what most of those games are, except GTA.

[@YtseJam214]

That credits song was so clever

[@iriasu1667]

ikr

[@Mepeteatu]

*Is compelled to play more Shovel Knight*

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

it's funny because that game is DEFINITELY not shovel ware

[@Lumpyrox1412]

Whats even more clever is that i've never even played or heard the music in Shovel Knight and i recognised where the music was from immediately after seeing your comment.

[@GamerFromJump]

Somehow I knew they'd use _Shovel Knight_.

[@ninjatakes4321]

I grew up on licensed games, mostly because when my parents went to buy me games at a young age the things they would pick up would usually be things they thought and knew I liked. Luckily for the most part I got fairly real games, like ones from the lego starwars series and the chronicles of Narnia game, and a harry potter game which was actually my first open world title. I kinda lucked out, but every now and then I got something horrible, unforgivable, yet those never turned me off to games. I think licensed titles are great for early gamers like I was, but shovelware can totally destroy that, and could've destroyed me in all honesty.

[@poopboy3998]

Lego games are fucking masterpieces though they are for kids

[@calvinmoehlman9372]

omg... we might have grown up on the exact games.... except I also had Diablo 1

[@ninjatakes4321]

Calvin Moehlman I had the pleasure of playing Megaman X7 as one of my first unlicensed games. You better bet I went back to my lego starwars's after that shit.

[@krakuf5239]

+Amiibo Charles BURN TO THE GROUND!

[@VadelmahilloVideotuotanto]

The original Cars game was a pretty neat open world experience

[@neonlemurs4865]

As someone born in the early 0's I grew up with a lot of shovel ware. *LIKE ALOT* I don't think I have any ps2 games that don't have "the game" at the end of them.

[@nanda-re2yp]

haha same as me. I remember transformers the game

[@JoaDrath]

I was born in the 2000's and I grew up on games such as Pokemon, The Legend of Zelda and Red Alert 2 (which I stole from my older brother).

[@gulfgiggleanimations4472]

I learned from a young age that existing franchise based games were usually crap, even though most of the licensed games I actually played were actually really good: the Lego Starwars games, the THQ nickelodeon games, and even Stuart Little 2 was really great. Regardless, the logic led me to getting some pretty great underappreciated games like "Zapper" and "The Adventures of Cookie and Cream" and even the appreciated classics like "Jak and Daxter" and the Sly games.

[@neonlemurs4865]

Bay Laugh Shrek 2 game is amazing.

[@gulfgiggleanimations4472]

Ninja lemur Also a pretty good movie game, especially with friends

[@kevinboehm8346]

Did someone say RAID SHADOW LEGENDS?

[@akisa7865]

We do not speak of it's name...

[@Gualberto_Villaroel_Oficial]

RAID IS A TURN BASED RPG WHICH CAN BE PLAYED ON ANDROID AND IOS DEVICES

[@normalguy729]

What's up guys! (name) here and I want to tell you that this video is sponsored by raid shadow legends!

[@HEyZEus-tv7et]

2014 video: shovelwares getting worse 2019 gamer: you mean like Battlefront 2? 2014 gamer: na that was a good game 2019 gamer: oh just wait...

[@MacadeAllen]

*Video about shovel ware* *Shovel Knight theme as end credits song* I see what you did there...

[@bread604]

oh haha 6 years later this is even bigger with false advertising so that "trickle" is now a tsunami

[@pewpewdragon4483]

That moment when you see Final Fantasy XV A New Empire and realize its literally just a clone of Game of War and Mobile Strike... it even uses the same mini game ad that has nothing to do with the game just to try and draw you in!

[@chantingzhang]

The shovelware problem is not just a standalone problem about the games industry itself, it is everywhere whenever quick greed in commerce collide with development, it exists in websites, software, hardware, toys, and sometimes even bloody residential buildings. As a serviced office clerk, I've seen it hard.

[@megabo3ed]

I wish there were more sources for mobile game reviews, or a curated app store for them. Right now mobile games are a bit of a gamble weather they're good, fun games or rushed micro transaction boxes.

[@RedRaiderFilmsLLC]

I remember my little sister spending $40 on “Barbies puppy rescue” and played twice while at the same time I bought sims 4 and I have sunken 2,000+ hours into it

[@hadikanaan7357]

Sims 4 is garbage, go play Sims 3 with all expansion packs (that are actually good) like a real man/whamen

[@hulias3107]

40 DOLLARS?!??!??!?

[@crackpotpolitics5986]

Moble Mafia City anyone? Its got 1 star and still bombards me with adds

[@grantluper5168]

that's how the mafia works

[@Shadow_Witch]

Video is about Shovelware **Ends with Shovel Knight Music**

[@creekline5009]

RAID SHADOW LEGENDS is a license free shovel wear

[@bon7029]

That's more of a Genre based shovelware rather than licensed based.

[@halbarroyzanty2931]

Shovel knight music in the outro Shovelware Puns am i right

[@Eschatonin6666]

The irony is that these descriptions of Shovelware apply completely to many games today made by developer's own titles

[@turretboi]

Shovel knight is true shovelware

[@EkiTheIdiot]

*Dies of laughing*

[@QuoteCaver]

Episode about Shovelware ends with a Shovel Knight soundtrack. I see what you did there.

[@BocookGaming]

I would totally play "Frasier: Backyard Wrestling".

[@MrKastle09]

I know! as long as Maris was a selectable character.

[@idnyftw]

Cheers is an unlockable arena

[@BocookGaming]

Yeah, but she'd have to be hidden first. haha

[@liamj2363]

Give it to Capcom. Fraiser vs. Seinfeld.

[@pocketlint60]

Liam J Fraiser X Seinfeld : Heritage for the Nothing

[@CattyMintgum]

I still consider Sonic Boom Shovelware.

[@BooTeresa1006]

+Catty Mintgum Well, it is based on a TV series, so...

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

+Catty Mintgum steam is full of shovel ware so is wii so was the NES, IP buying works sometimes, should Nintendo buy Sonic team then it would be in good hands with plenty of resources that can be utilized.shovelware the opposite of this is Sega and gearbox with Aliens colonial Marines

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

***** its clear that whether Sega likes it or not, Sonic boom needs as much polish as classic Sonic.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

***** that's what I meant, don't give it to a LJN or a bad dev. and instead polish it up, Nintendo wont release a game if it is not up to par.

[@MFG1243]

+Catty Mintgum it is

[@coglineerro730]

Ok, but I would play Frasier Backyard Wrestling.

[@djelibaebi]

Shovelware ironically is not what shovel knight is...

[@Graystripe000]

+Jack Briggs I was really expecting a Shovel Knight joke in here.

[@wzr3293]

This Video Was Sponsored By *RAID: Shadow Legends*

[@Gayd1]

I think that would be enough to make me stop watching this channel completely

[@dexter2392]

Raid is shovelware

[@ShibuNub3305]

@Thyron Dexter *shitware

[@ok5988]

@@ShibuNub3305 A virus

[@MagSun]

Yeah.... It's getting better.... Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, even Final Fantasy sold out to the mobile market for a cheap cash grab....

[@sundavrastaton2300]

It's both painful and horrifying to see that so many popular franchises have generic awful cashgrab games in the playstore

[@rob3r7jr]

So in simple minutes you explained the reason that I used to play games love then, but my sister who used to play Barbie games simple don't care about games.

[@Daekar3]

I can confirm that shovelware and greedy monetization have driven me from the mobile gaming market entirely. I don't even bother looking at mobile games anymore - years of going back hoping things had improved has taught me better. I spend a good bit of cash on games every year and will as long as I am able... But nobody on mobile is getting a cent. Except for Nintendo Switch devs... That thing is freaking great.

[@tijn0770]

Adam Smith there are mobile games that are good coming out each year

[@lance5691]

WHY IS EVERYONE GETTING RECOMMENDED THIS IN 2020?

[@wendywong7673]

Me

[@granwythhewleberry4282]

For Android users, they still have to deal with this.

[@goganii]

Idk

[@thepencilcunts]

@@granwythhewleberry4282 Yes we do..

[@galev3955]

I am still weepinig for the Harry Potter videogame series. They started out being actually fun games. Then something happened and they turned into a series of badly directed cutscenes interrupted by repetitive, boring chores with the rare exceptional moment that was kinda fun.

[@aidanplayseverything3138]

Levene Gál but then Harry Potter hogwarts mystery came out and we where happy

[@galev3955]

What is that? I haven't heard of it.

[@matteoxuereb]

That's a terrible example. That game contains immense amounts of microtransactions.

[@Zeldur]

aidanplayseverything I've tried it and it's mildly interesting until you realize you have to wait in the middle of a task to wait for the energy to refill. It's really infuriating since the tasks have a deadline.

[@galev3955]

Yeah, I think he was being ironic.

[@megamike15]

and this is why i love telltale games they care about the series they adapt.

[@megamike15]

***** well all companies arnt perfect. i did find that game decent it's not horrible as people make it out to be thoe.

[@bombgameing]

that what happend to my friend!!! i remeber that his first game was a bad batman and he hated gaming soo much till i forced him to play super mario and he just cant stop playing games! his even a bigger gamer then i am! shovelware is really a bad thing that need to be stopped

[@viktormon]

You did a good thing!

[@svwa161994]

Has your friend heard of batman arkham series

[@playahsan]

Good job sir!

[@bombgameing]

xlegomatteox exactlly today the compines are HUGE so the develpers and ceo's are in a different level ceo doesnt care about what the develepers think about the game or what tester say about it its all about the cash this thing cannot be stopped and i bet it will only rise theres nothing we can do about it as gamers even if we unite because theres alot of gamers that arent connected to the community or just doesnt care about whats going on and @Steve Verduzco‏ he played the shit out of it

[@svwa161994]

Nice words of wisdom bomboy2121 and I'm glad your friend enjoy the Batman arkham series

[@matrixguardian4539]

Those guys must think we’re stupid. I think in Japan, quality control rules are stricter than in America. That’s why a lot of games produced in Japan (including licensed titles, lots of anime-style or based off games sadly some exclusive there but a lot of them) are so great. Japan doesn’t seem to put in strict deadlines or wants it on shelves as soon as possible regardless of condition of the game, they actually care about quality. Publishers should be punished for putting out garbage or quote-on-quote: “cash grabs”. That consequence is......... Negative Reviews or Reputation Damaging! Losing Money or maybe poor sales because no one wants that shit! Take responsibility! Care about quality! Let’s punish those publishers! Let’s invent a PayBot and everything can go a person or company’s way! (If it’s to amaze, not to disappoint) Thank god the trend is like almost completely dead in the console and PC industry! I wish I could say the same for mobile games. Too much freeware (all countries are suffering from greed) and too much paywalls! Put an end to that practice! Shovelware is the greatest offense to the gaming industry as a whole and needs to be stopped! Punish greedy companies and award hard-working quality-assuring companies who put real effort and time into it! Quality reigns supreme!!!

[@placeholder1308]

There are also those games that are intended to look like another game that is good so dumb kids will download them or unknowing parents will get them for their kids.

[@Theo_Caro]

I was born in 95, and growing up I was given a Gamecube. There were like three games I remember from those days: Ice Age, Over the Hedge, and Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2. Ice Age (metacritic: 67) and Over the Hedge (metacritic: 61) were passable at best, I haven't played them in so long, so I can't say I have an opinion. But Hot Pursuit 2 was enthralling. But eventually I lost interest, and I went for several years not playing any games until 2011 when my friends got me into Minecraft, which I played exclusively for about 2-3 years until I started trying other games. That's when I became fascinated with games as a media. And now I have finished several dozen different games... I couldn't even quantify it for you. So yes, if my only introduction to games had been those first Gamecube games, I would have never gotten into gaming in any sort of serious way. Thankfully, I had awesome friends and the internet.

[@mnmmcg3543]

Shovel Knight music at the end; I see what you did there.

[@crazyjaybe]

Hit the nail as to why so many mobile games are a rip off like clash of clans and Vega conflict

[@galaxymew5138]

Not to mention the seemingly *_endless_* supply of match 3 games...

[@MichaelMangi]

Shovelware is why the developer of E.T. for the Atari 2600 only got six weeks to program the game before it was supposed to be out the door.

[@noahlindsay1711]

+Michael Mangi (theblackdog) lol true

[@olibernstein6834]

Im glad my parents grew up as gamers and know what is shovelware games. For my cousins on the other hand... they have a lot of Wii Shovelware. Talking about Wii shovelware.... It is 2018.... i still see Wii games on the store shelves. The shovelware ones at least.

[@charlescampuz5812]

Oli Olive I had a Wii too while growing up. Luckily my family had great history on video games, thus they kept me away from most of the shovelware that plagued the platform.

[@placeholder1308]

Charles Campuz I had a Wii too, and never had WiiWare bought for me

[@tymekx014]

I hate watching kids playing trash shovelware

[@ECL28E]

Me too... because that was once me

[@jackbeach942]

You can't tell me you don't want to play frasier backyard wrestling

[@free_siobhan]

I really like that Shovel Knight remix... oh, I get it now!

[@chung5851]

*EA walks in* So shovelware is going down? let's fix that.

[@enderallygolem]

Overchair

[@neilisbored2177]

@@enderallygolem Alphasymbol

[@nomukun1138]

I would totally buy Frasier Backyard Wrestling.

[@KnakuanaRka]

4:17 You mention the PS1/2 over the Wii? Do you even remember how much garbage was published on Wii?

[@thefrogge]

The ds was also flooded with crap not even the dsi only having 5 physical games was not safe

[@mrmattu2513]

K1naku5ana3R1ka dude I actually got a used Wii recently and all the games that I have looked at and played are garbage except for a handful of gems.

[@y00d]

Bleubroze xb360 had some dumpster fire indies

[@kaleandrews2250]

I hope the mobile shovel knight game won't be shovelware

[@elia-eo3bf]

Don't worry

[@akisa7865]

We will only be able to play as king knight

[@mrmurpleqwerty4838]

*sniff, sniff* I smell a pun

[@SkyLordPanglot]

Thats exactly why I hated mobile games for a long time. However lately I managed to find quality content there. Yeah maybe its like 0.0000001%, but its there.

[@matt92hun]

Could you please name some?

[@lillybeach2391]

@@matt92hun Candies 'n curses is a good platformer that feels like a full game. Good luck!

[@MrOofio64]

Among us is good game to try

[@matt92hun]

@@lillybeach2391 Thanks.

[@matt92hun]

@@MrOofio64 Thanks.

[@ioannisloukas4131]

Watching this today is intressting, becouse... I mean look at the mobile market! I remember a time where I could look at the top 100 games in the google play store and there would be such good games. Today is just a load of nothing, just companys making games just to be 10 min of fun.

[@NapaCat]

Man I miss the days of Angry Birds.

[@j.c.2240]

Fruit ninja was my favorite

[@richardosborn159]

The bubble is about to pop! I think the mobile game industry will deflate soon. So much garbage on the app store -- it's hard to find anything of quality.

[@danabinghammclaughlin919]

Yep. Made that mistake years ago by getting Dragon story. It's basically a Dragonvale rip-off.

[@jorceshaman]

@1:35 I would play Frasier Backyard Wrestling.

[@nbr1rckr]

Who wouldn't?

[@goldenfloof5469]

I've downloaded and tried probably dozens of mobile games, but I only ended up keeping 3 of them. Mostly the ones that didn't smash adds down your throat at every opportunity.

[@hugo57k91]

Meanwhile, I've probably downloaded thousands of games, I've only kept a dozen or two. Cell Lab, Hoplite, Minecraft, Age of History 2, SwordandGlory, Shattered Pixel Dungeon, Antiyoy and Spaceflight simulator

[@mmmcola6067]

i download maybe hundreds of games, yet i kept three.. the most expected one is roblox (ofc imao) but the least expected ones are doom 1 and 2

[@orestis6804]

shovel knight soundtrack? On a video about shovelware...GENIUS

[@Nathouuuutheone]

Literally every "Minecraft" game that isn't the basic Java/Bedrock games. Dungeons, Earth, you name it. Shovelware. Quite polished, but disgustingly soulless, and entirely riding the wave of something greater without deserving any of the praise.

[@foxtrotnine]

Does education edition count? Cause its free. At least for the individual student.

[@cakeisyummy5755]

@Freesmart Roblox doesn't allow people to make games based off of copyrighted things, (Like Pokemon.), And the games on the platform are made by the players, So not really.

[@jembot7700]

@Freesmart no lol

[@mmmcola6067]

man why the hell do i enjoy dungeons so much..... mayb bc i play with ma siblings or its very addicting af

[@km1dash6]

Please don't make bad things so cute. The shovel is so cute, it makes it hard to think of it as bad.

[@Kabloosh]

EA and Activision, we're looking at you.

[@GideonGleeful95]

Franchises that have had some good games: Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Warhammer 40,000

[@WH250398]

James Bond,Spider-Man, The Bourne

[@lorenzoporre8155]

You guys just gained a subscriber just because you included a character with vitiligo at minute 3:49. This little detail that for many could be irrelevant made me feel recognised and appreciated as one who has vitiligo. Vitiligo has so little exposure on social media even if 1% of the world population suffers from that! Thanks guys 💕

[@HyperIonMake]

Mobile used to be good. Recently it has been shit. I'd appreciate a video on why this is. It seems to be some strategy to create many low quality, highly advertised games.

[@darkenergy3742]

I agree soooooooo much.

[@LeFatalpotato]

If you mean by recent the last decade, I agree. For the most part post freemium mobile sector has been utter shite.

[@CaptainSugarr]

Raid shadow legends cough cough

[@elia-eo3bf]

I think that Apple Arcade(mostly indie) thing is the beginning to see more quality mobile games again and less crapware

[@martijnvanweele6204]

I love how "Shovelware" sounds like a company that develops games/software, a bit like BioWare... I might use that in a story... Also, outro music from Shovel Knight... I see what you did there...

[@agf_serval6492]

And today, three years later, we have mobile shovel games from AAA games. I am looking at you FFXV!!!

[@johnpontzer3546]

The shovel knight music at the end got me

[@katowo6521]

two letters: E.T.

[@TheRealCaptainFreedom]

o O 0 Four letters: DVDA.

[@mennoastfalck2267]

E.T - Considered by many to be the worst game ever to have existed

[@jerrytu0916]

LJN

[@callinater6133]

Menno Astfalck and it isn’t the worst. Not even close.

[@karamboubou8579]

anyone else randomly got this in your recommended

[@AyrisX86]

Karam Boubou haha yeah

[@mrmurpleqwerty4838]

Meh too

[@sierra1513]

I don't think anyone has actively watched this channel in 5 years

[@AyrisX86]

Sierra indeed

[@JaegerEins]

Did companies like VOODOO immediately come to mind for anyone else? Quick, trashy, repetitive games they churn out a dime a dozen

[@guesswhoscoming9046]

I *think* VOODOO is one of those 'ultra casual' companies Shovelware is a bad licenced game that uses the brand deal to sell

[@KnakuanaRka]

@@guesswhoscoming9046 Yeah, Voodoo doesn’t quite fit the definition given at the start, but it’s the same idea of people pushing out minimum-effort crap for short-term $o$ 🤑 and giving mobile games a bad name in the process.

[@self-absorbed5269]

Weird how Pokemon started acting this way.

[@USSMariner]

So much representation here. Mixed families AND vitiligo girl!

[@HowlsOfWater]

I thought it was just meant to be a muddy kid...

[@JBX07]

I'm sure that one person with vitiligo is feeling totally represented and not at all marginalized.

[@weeseet]

I appreciated the white man/black woman couple, instead of the much more represented opposite. One of my best friends is a white man dating a black woman, and they've both heard a lot of hurtful things because of it. "Jungle fever," "he must have money," stuff like that. It's not very nice.

[@pocketlint60]

Ooooh that's what that was. I was all confused for a moment and I was like, "is that a cow person!?" Thanks for giving me the name to google, I've known people with Vitiligo like that but I never knew the name.

[@travismcnasty4239]

It's kinda fucked up to see in real life. I heard my friend's mom refer to a mutual classmate of ours as the legitimate outcome of "smacking the black off you". That lady scared me.

[@brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985]

Most licensed games are shovelware except for these ones Simpsons hit and run Spiderman Goldeneye 007 Any of the star wars games The Arkam batman series Toy story 3

[@angelheart1701]

I dunno, Star Wars Battlefront 2 came pretty close.

[@AlexsStopMotionAdventures]

Any lego games, cars 2,

[@antenna_prolly]

_Kingdom Hearts_ (at least the original) I feel technically counts, depending on context

[@SuperHGB]

Smash bros technically

[@hoangtran4736]

the thing that is worse than shovelware based on upcoming movies is shovelware based on upcoming games.

[@Austn8r]

If only he knew then how true the statement that "Shovelware might be causing more damage" is. Gosh the intense foreshadowing. AAA industry anyone?

[@brianhart4108]

They never listened, and they even lowered the standards so everybody is making shovelware. AAA industry is now brutally beaten by indie developers for large... $15 game is now much more fun than $60 games in general, which is a shame for the whole industry somehow.

[@NintenYoshi]

I loved the video, it was very interesting. The Wii must be the King of Shovelware in consoles, it has a lot of those. Heck, there's a section in a latin american Nintendo magazine called the Wario Awards, that's dedicated to finding and talking about the worst of the worst shovelware in Nintendo consoles.

[@DrMattPhillips]

Don't know about you, but I'd play Frasier: Backyard Wrestling..

[@TyMannJones]

Is that Shovel Knight music for the Shovelware video? Nice.

[@tejassb8658]

I worked on one such project for one month as an internship (I was getting paid). One day the owner, in the middle of the office , in a fit of rage (I couldn't stick to his unrealistic timeline, 1 android game every 5 days in unity) Let me know that I was not good enough and he a non developer could do a better job. I was in tears (Not then and there, later when i was own my own). My best friend consoled me though over the phone. Even though It's been some years now, That day I won’t forget.

[@tejassb8658]

@John Doe At that time. I really thought I was being incompetent and it was my fault. Today I know better though.

[@samithebeanieboofish5532]

The Wii and DS was famous for this

[@TheOneNamedMrLife]

As well as the PS2 and GBA

[@zeph8620]

Cory in the house

[@migueltheglaceon1734]

The nes does not have shovelware.

[@keesalemon]

I will defend Barbie Secret Agent on my honor, that game was dope

[@weedelbhoy1xd813]

Games like the warriors, toy story 2, ice age 2 the meltdown, evil dead fist full of boomstick/regeneration, scooby doo night of 100 frights, spongebob the movie game, jurassic park operation genesis, I don't think the movie/spin off games like this will be made as good as they used to be sadly

[@beeflumps]

Frasier backyard wrestling sounds like a hilarious indie title, not shovelware

[@FIV7p]

that's why we only play indie-developed games here

[@pokemonmanic3595]

"Did somebody order terrible?" -Scott the Woz

[@user-so2vo9jf6e]

* Cough Cough EA COOOOUGH.

[@redstonedragongaming8795]

Here is another piece of shovelware: War Robots. In the catastrophic update that happened about a year ago, three new robots were introduced. These three robots broke the old meta instantly. These 200$(yes, I am not joking) robots could fulfill every combat role and were capable of doing so better than any other robot in the game. People of course began to buy these robots. There was no good way of getting them otherwise back then, making the game nearly unplayable. They earned a lot of money, so they of course they hired more devs to pump out content faster. So, after a short period of time, they released a new 100$ weapon that broke the meta once more. Players complained and complained. At last, they made these weapons and robots available to non-payers, but it took a long time to obtain the new items. As more and more stuff was purchased, they began pumping out content faster and faster. They completely ignored players on the test server, as they only saw money. Test servers used to excite players, but nowadays, it just worries the player base. They regularly pumped out unbalanced weapons to get more money. At some point, they got so much money they began sponsoring youtubers in an effort to advertise the game to get more players, thus meaning more money. They realized that few were actually buying the items, so they made a propaganda. They said that they would decrease the item cost and make stuff easier to obtain at the penalty of higher upgrading costs and longer upgrading times. When the patch hit, very few items lived up to the propaganda, and the massively increased upgrade times and cost came with a hidden silver and WR royale token nerf, so it would be a absolute nightmare to upgrade it. They got a few panicked buys from it, and they considered it to be worth it. They made many new year promises. Only a few of them have been fulfilled. They used to censor players complaining about the game to hide its true nature, but they stopped as they knew that they can’t really do much to stop it. Some time later, the players got to know that the old company actually sold the game to mail.ru. They simply developed the game under the mask of the former company. The old company saw the catastrophy unfold, and decided to make a similar game with better everything. They went under a new name, namely “RED BUTTON” (all capital, no quotation marks). The new game is called “battle of titans”, If you would like to play it. So far the new game is far from throwing War robots off its throne. But it will happen eventually. Mail.ru figured it out, and is now stealing features from the new game to add onto War Robots. They really don’t want their biggest income to dissipate.

[@minccinoluna805]

War robots is good!!!!!!

[@notbobby125]

ET for the Atari 2600 perfectly demonstrates what they are talking about. Atari spent 20 million dollars for the license at the of July. The film was already out, so Atari shot for a Christmas release instead. To leave enough time for all the physical carts too be made, the game had to be finished by September 1st, leaving only about a *single* month to actually program the game. Even Steven Spielberg was... less than impressed with the result the first time he saw it, and suggested they just rip off Pac-Man instead. However, Atari moved forward, and dumped the half finished product onto store shelves. The results were a disaster, with the game only selling a fourth of the carts produced, and a lot of those were returned to Atari. The game was the straw that broke consumer's confidence in video games, a confidence that wouldn't return until Nintedo hoodwinked consumers and toy companies into believing the NES was a robot toy. No seriously, they packaged the first NES's with the "Robotic Operating Buddy" (aka ROB from Smash and Mario Kart) to hide the fact it was a video game console, since no toy store was willing to stock another video game console after the crash (there had been literally dozens of consoles trying to compete with the Atari 2600 before the industry tanked).

[@RunsWithKniefs]

From my experience informing peers works about 30% of the time. Because the typical response is "It can't be that bad and besides its only $1" and they keep ignoring me.

[@Avaruusnuija]

It is quite true that you don't lose much if 1 dollar game is shitty. The worse thing is, that if enough people buy a shitty product, even at that low price, they will be able to put out more shit. People should think further than "do I care if I spend 1 dollar on bullshit".

[@RunsWithKniefs]

Its unfortunately the same as the "my vote wont affect anything" mentality where people assume they're the ONLY one who thinks that and doesn't consider the MILLIONS of others who think that too.

[@OdaSwifteye]

Funny, when I hear. "Informing peers." It usually means friends and family. You have to have a position of power or great oratory skills to actually give advice to common individuals and have it respected.

[@zerex8375]

30% of the time is more then 0% of the time =D And on the side note. I don't vote for votings sake. If there are two politicians running, and I don't like or dislike either of them, I don't vote.

[@commode7x]

Daniel Brinkerhoff There's alot more to it than not voting. People will vote for the politicians you don't like. It's important to keep people accountable. The real movers and shakers in the world are the people, and if the people want to destroy their world, they'll do it, unless the people can stop them.

[@sineadmooney786]

For the record, I would absolutely play Frasier: Backyard Wrestling.

[@nandornagyilles3290]

Getting an ad to a Star Wars gacha game on this video is the peak of irony

[@mynamejeff4142]

I liked Iron Man PS3 though... Maybe it was just the HDTV and being a super cool flying hero. I can't risk going back to find out.

[@lucasmoreira3237]

-> Game Of Thrones Online (2019)

[@TheConnorWing]

Wierdly, Shovel Knight isn't Shovel Ware.

[@vedal1358]

Connor Monie Shovel knight music at the end!

[@44bigfreeze]

It is the exact opposite of shovel ware XD

[@Gaze73]

90% of humble bundle titles are shovelware.

[@730indoorsman]

shovelware gives console libraries longevity. shovelware is the reason i still emulate and play so many weird and obscure ps2 and wii games. I'd have very little interest in those consoles if they didn't have vast libraries to explore. most of them are duds, sure, but a lot of them are so-bad-its-good, or at least have an interesting gimmick. Once in a while there's a "shovelware" game that I actually would consider a really good, underappreciated game.

[@enderjed2523]

Like Mercury meltdown madness for the Wii?

[@danjal87nl]

* looks for the Aliens: Colonial Marines comment *

[@Dalpima]

Thanks for reminding us that terrible game existed. We would have forgotten otherwise. xD

[@danjal87nl]

My pleasure~

[@svwa161994]

Funny you should ask because two years ago I was originally going to purchase Aliens Colonial Marines to take a break from the call of duty series but after hearing awful review from that game, I just turn around and got black ops 2

[@danjal87nl]

Hey, atleast it got you back on track =P Best break ever!

[@svwa161994]

Actually I did take that COD break with bungie game called destiny 

[@liamborella8977]

Shovelware sounds like a game dev

[@thegreathighpriestcthulhu8320]

yea

[@MumboJ]

+Liam Borella To be honest, everything sounds like a game dev. It's like a band name or a tumblr account.

[@nanda-re2yp]

+MumboJ shit?

[@einootspork]

they're the ones who made shovel knight right? :P

[@antifreezecorruptions957]

We all know which company is unbEAtable when it comes to shovelware.

[@atigerclaw]

Heh, Shovelware episode ends with Shovelknight music. Clever.

[@tribeofkings6999]

Basically LJN or Activison

[@angelaengle12]

I've learned to never buy a game that is based after anything on T.V. They always suck. =/ I remember playing a Harry Potter game that you could get half-way through until you had to face Snape in a duel that was absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to beat. You could never have the reflexes fast enough to beat him. Besides that, it was incredibly repetitive with poor graphics.