(F) Aegon - A livestream

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In Deep Geek

In Deep Geek

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@samuelleask1132
@samuelleask1132 4 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do with fAegon, but I'd love to see a few Traveller's Guide videos for Middle-earth! Imagine hearing Robert's soothing tones narrating travels to Rivendell, Moria, Edoras, Minas Tirith, the Shire....
@bklyntraveler9705
@bklyntraveler9705 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad this can only be liked once!
@derrisreaditbefore
@derrisreaditbefore 4 жыл бұрын
I rarely catch the livestreams, but try and catch them later - thank you so much for them. Your insight is always worth listening to.
@amynurss1375
@amynurss1375 4 жыл бұрын
I could listen to you all day.
@melmothmelmoth
@melmothmelmoth 2 жыл бұрын
I literall do listen to him all day...and night!
@Chilling_Chilling
@Chilling_Chilling Жыл бұрын
​@@melmothmelmoth I bet you do...😏
@Snakie747
@Snakie747 4 жыл бұрын
37:23 YES. I agree with this so much. It's hard for me to buy into the idea that Aegon really is who he says he is (or that he's the ToJ baby) because it just fits so well thematically that F Aegon just turns out to be a false dragon. So much of GRRM's story is about how totally failed a system dynastic succession is. It just doesn't make any sense for this perfect potential ruler to be the rightful king of Westeros with the rest of the story. I'm not even sure he's a Blackfyre. I actually think he might really and truly be nobody at all, with no even tertiary claim to the throne.
@psychkosys
@psychkosys Жыл бұрын
He's a Blackfyre...whether he knows it or not remains to be seen, but I think it would be brilliant of GRRM if he doesn't know. The reason he is a Blackfyre is because the Golden Company took a blood vow to avenge Bittersteel by placing a Blackfyre on the throne. That is why they broke their contract and follow (F)Aegon, whether on information provided by Illyrio or from his own lips, the Golden Company know he is descended from the Blackfyres.
@pamelarollins608
@pamelarollins608 4 жыл бұрын
I've really enjoyed The Traveler's Guide series! Many thanks for bringing ASOIAF alive!
@johnboxler8989
@johnboxler8989 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a present for the boy. A bit of candy ginger he was always fond of it. How do the cheese lord know that?
@jakeshepard9292
@jakeshepard9292 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another great video. Thank you for all of your work, Robert.
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 4 жыл бұрын
If Illyrio has been working with Aegon all these years to get (F)Aegon on the throne, then what was his purpose in helping Vicerys and Daenerys? Why arrange the marriage with Drogo with the purpose of embarking on a Dhothraki invasion? Was it to weaken Westeros forces in advance (something The War of the Five Kings ended up doing, anyway)? Was it to establish Vicerys as a "bad king" so F(Aegon) could come in and save the day?
@alanhiggs5826
@alanhiggs5826 3 жыл бұрын
I believe either both outcomes were what Illyrio, Varys, and the Golden Company would want. So they could place a Blackfire pretended (Fe) agon on the Iron Throne. I also think the secret to Young Griff's true identify is in plain sight whe relating the history of Westeros. All the Blackfire's are called pretenders when mentioned in their past rebellions. This is essentially what Young Griff is. A black dragon pretending to be a red. Which in turn might lead Danery's and the possible Euron partnership to destroy King's Landing.
@johnjames1374
@johnjames1374 2 жыл бұрын
It is very confusing.
@BlackstreetBoys2Men
@BlackstreetBoys2Men 2 жыл бұрын
An invading Dothraki force that terrorizes Westeros then the good Targaryen (Faegon) saves the realm from the mad son of the mad king ( Viserys ) with the Golden Company. Edit; they might not have expected Viserys and Dany to live that long then called some audibles
@halucynki
@halucynki 4 жыл бұрын
I admire your work so much. Yor voice is So calming and videos so well plan ed and detailed. Love it. Last week we started watching Westworld and I'm already excited that I'll have 3 more playlists of videos from you to watch because of that :D
@jamiemckenna2254
@jamiemckenna2254 4 жыл бұрын
The last Traveller’s Guide! 😭 End of a long journey. Thank you for all your dedication on that journey! Sad to see it end, but all good things . . . Cheers @in deep geek 🍷
@LordJordanXVII
@LordJordanXVII 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert.
@OryxArya
@OryxArya 4 жыл бұрын
G R R Martin often utilises inspiration from history, particularly from the Wars of the Roses. Aegons storyline is very similiar to the youngest prince in tower (the ones who disappeared during the reign of Richard III). Years after their disappearance a man claiming to be the youngest prince came to claim the English throne from Henry VII. He gathered support from his supposed extended family and was hosted by European Royalty and even given arms and a noble wife. He invaded England but was captured and held prisoner before being executed. There are a lot more similarities between the two. There could also be a similiarity between the sweat and greyscale which was bought to England by the invading Henry VII, who could be compared to Danerys, especially in regard to the relationship between Henry VII and this imposter.
@dalegribble4308
@dalegribble4308 4 жыл бұрын
OryxArya 🌭🇸🇾🇮🇶🇮🇷
@TobeWilsonNetwork
@TobeWilsonNetwork 4 жыл бұрын
What disease did Henry VII bring to England when he invaded?
@OryxArya
@OryxArya 4 жыл бұрын
They attribute the sweating sickness or 'the sweat' to Henry VII and his armies which were made up of French mercenaries. The first confirmed outbreak was at the end of the wars of the roses
@BubblegumCrash332
@BubblegumCrash332 4 жыл бұрын
My ride home from work just got really good 👍👍❤️
@goatmc
@goatmc 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tours! Cheers!
@OneOnOne1162
@OneOnOne1162 2 жыл бұрын
1:16:04 - I don't think it's random though. The Daynes aren't Valyrians but I suspect they are descendents of people who were part of the Great Empire of the Dawn. An empire that also seemed to have had dragons and dragonriders. And I suspect the purple eyes mark their abilities. Not that you need to have purple eyes to have those abilities, but I suspect purple eyes are far more common in lines that have them and/or indicate particularly strong abilities. This would also fit with the eyes of greenseers having a particular colour.
@milogentry4082
@milogentry4082 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always, Thank you!
@Rahim.ali80
@Rahim.ali80 4 жыл бұрын
Can anybody tell me where the hell is Howland Reed is, always wondered why he never showed up when Ned was killed
@goatmc
@goatmc 4 жыл бұрын
Basically fighting the iron born is my guess. Making sure Robb’s army can’t be taken from the rear. What I wonder is if Howland sent his kids to Winterfell or did they just leave independently. For all we know Howland has Ned’s bones. Maege Mormont & Galbert Glover also have Robb’s will. I could see Reed, Glover & Maege conversing on what they should do about Jon. If Robb did legitimize Jon & Howland found out about the will, he may have to speak up & say well hold on just one quick sec since Jon is not a Stark but a Targaryian.
@Rahim.ali80
@Rahim.ali80 4 жыл бұрын
@@goatmc appreciate that & I thought about wether Howland told his kids to leave or did they leave on their as well. I think George is saving Howland for a big moment in the books
@goatmc
@goatmc 4 жыл бұрын
adamrushd8096 sounds like we virtually on the same page. I just want WOW to come out this year. ENOUGH! This is the first time I ever complained on this topic because I figured there’d be an announcement that they’d publish after the series wrapped. I was wrong.
@alexb3604
@alexb3604 4 жыл бұрын
@@goatmc Jon is still very much a Stark which makes it all the more interesting , beyond possibly the whole Sara Snow situation (which is not totally clear) one of the few unions of Fire & Ice and the literal embodiment of the Song of Ice & Fire. His mother is a Stark , raised in Winterfell and character / traits wise more a Stark than any of Ned's biological children. That will take the claim to a whole other level being likely the heir to Winterfell until any of Ned's children legitimately resurface where many become aware of it and could be like the show he ends up being proclaimed King in the North and then to find out to have a claim to the Iron throne itself through his paternal Targ heritage. Likely will come down to an inner struggle if he should be content with his what should be high Northern position and leave it at that or to push his claim down South or at least get involved with the power struggle down there.
@Rahim.ali80
@Rahim.ali80 4 жыл бұрын
@@goatmc you & I both, for me it feels like Howland story deserves more legs because Howland & his house played such a potival role in the story from the rebellion to Bran leaving Winterfell
@LordJordanXVII
@LordJordanXVII 4 жыл бұрын
I love the more mysterious and tantalizing aspects of ASOIAF and GOT.
@bklyntraveler9705
@bklyntraveler9705 4 жыл бұрын
You can only dye your hair blue if it's bleached.
@goatmc
@goatmc 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure George researched that.
@bklyntraveler9705
@bklyntraveler9705 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure he did. I guess I should have clarified - it would have to be bleached unless it was already Targ white (or very light).
@alexb3604
@alexb3604 4 жыл бұрын
@@bklyntraveler9705 more likely than he has that Targ / Valyrian blond / white / silver / platinum hair to begin with anyway.
@TGJoeyT
@TGJoeyT 4 жыл бұрын
This is a world which dragons exist and the dead can come to life, where people can change their faces or total appearances with magic. You're going to get hung up on hair dye?
@Dragondan1987
@Dragondan1987 3 жыл бұрын
That's using earth as a basis, this is a different world with different factors. There could be a chemical or plant that dyes hair blue no matter the color.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else didn't get the notification from you tube about the livestream until after it was done?
@magister343
@magister343 4 жыл бұрын
Aegon VI is not the eldest child of Prince Rhaegar. He may be the oldest son, but Rhaegar had a daughter first.
@goatmc
@goatmc 4 жыл бұрын
I find it curious that Varys wouldn’t reveal himself to be a Blackfyre himself, if he indeed is one to Kevin & reveal that the Blackfyre & the King who wielded The Sword was here to reclaim his birthright that began by with Bittersteel & ends with me finally putting the legitimate heir on his rightful place on the Iron Throne. Or he goes into a monologue about The piss water prince. “I knew what Aerys meant to do & I knew the vile of the Lannister’s so I switched the two babes for a barrel of arbor gold. And he will save the realm.” Then he could go into his other part of the monologue. “And oh by the way Aegon will make a great king, much better than anything that’ll come.” from the Tonman era. So either scenario I’m surprised he didn’t give up more of a reason for being so fateful to Aegon. After all, he first had to tear apart the realm through war just to place Aegon on the throne. If it was peace he wanted, Robert had been providing that, yet Varys , Illyrio & Jon Con had been raising Aegon for kingship since his birth. Why do that if not to just make a power play for your own blood, blood that you believe to be royal & that of the dragon? Of course GRRM didn’t want to give away the game, that’s why we’re here discussing possibilities for this character & that. It’s great writing.
@dominicvaughan6572
@dominicvaughan6572 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers @indeepgeek! Great content and rhythm of the video as ever! Keep up the good work sir!
@jodie2141
@jodie2141 4 жыл бұрын
Why would varys swap just one baby, I realise he is the heir but nothing is certain in this realm, any number of illnesses could kill this child while he growing so why not save the son and the daughter of the king. It seems unlikely to me that he would allow one child to die when he had the opportunity to save her. It has been a few years since I read the books but I always questioned this.
@alexb3604
@alexb3604 4 жыл бұрын
jodie , I think it comes down to being able to actually being able to swap out and pass off a baby and / or child without being found out. Its much easier to swap out and those believe the identity of a few month old baby compared to a few year old child for one , also not sure Varys would care much beyond facilitating his own plot. That being said its much less likely any swap happened in this circumstance anyway , it much more plausible that he is Illiyrio's son with his Valyrian looking wife or some Targ / Valyrian looking child found over in Essos ; which in the books would be fairly easy to come upon.
@johnjames1374
@johnjames1374 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, our heros buy and murder babies, yay!
@lyannatargaryen3223
@lyannatargaryen3223 4 жыл бұрын
If Jon Connington is getting sicker with greyscale, that might be part of what causes him to lose it!
@liverdave1977
@liverdave1977 2 жыл бұрын
I need to reread a dance of dragons, lots of great points to mull over as always Robert 👍🏻
@AdrianMendoza23
@AdrianMendoza23 4 жыл бұрын
Great discussion.
@MatthewRandazzoV
@MatthewRandazzoV Жыл бұрын
Excellent channel, now actually seeing a stream and realizing you are a handsome youngish gentleman as opposed to an elderly academic librarian. Great voiceover work on travel videos, too.
@majesticmicrobes60
@majesticmicrobes60 4 жыл бұрын
after rereading dunk and egg, I think when Rhaegar says “the dragon must have 3 heads,” he’s not referring to the prince that was promised prophecy, he’s referring to a dragon dream he had.
@daylnroegner6744
@daylnroegner6744 4 жыл бұрын
Varsy seems to me someone who cares about having a good King or Queen, somewhat having the right Blood, and also keeping his head!! He is the spider
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 4 жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed by the use of perception that GRRM is using. Like you said fAegon would make a great King even though he probably is not Rhaegar's son. The red comet in the sky in the books where many different characters sees it in a different way. Here you have an actual magical being in Dany that was reborn in fire with three dragons yet wrongly view the comet as a sign of a path she must take. I wished they would have drawn upon that toward the end of the show. They clearly lost the narrative.
@skagosijack
@skagosijack 4 жыл бұрын
Watching later and not through yet but I got to thinking. Is it possible that Jon Connington doesn't know who "young griff" is? He thinks it is Aegon but it really isn't. Does he need to be in on the plot or could he be as clueless as the rest? I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about that.
@adamgreene411
@adamgreene411 4 жыл бұрын
Skagosi Jack from his POV chapters it’s evident he believes Young Griff is Aegon, especially when he compares Young Griff & Rhaegar at Griffins Roost or when he thinks he failed the father but he will not fail the son.
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say from his personality (e.g. guilt over lying about being dead), it's almost certain he believes he's the real deal. I doubt he'd support a lie.
@OneOnOne1162
@OneOnOne1162 2 жыл бұрын
1:15:20 - That may well be true but I don't THINK that was the point of Nettles though. I think the point of Nettles taming Sheepstealer was that you don't need to be Valyrian in order to ride a dragon. Being Valyrian helps a lot but it's not strictly necessary (which is something George has also hinted at separately in interviews).
@roblewis8227
@roblewis8227 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert. Huge fan of your work, love these livstreams and your videos. I am totally sold on your faegon, illyrio theory. I only have one quibble and it is a small one but if sarah is a blackfyre targaryeon then isn't it odd that she should die from plague given that it is said that dragons dont suffer illnesses. Are there any other examples of known dragons who have died from disease? Again, huge fan. Was late to the G.O.T books. I remember when i had the r+l=j moment, i thought i was so clever. I went online to discuss it and found your videos and realised just how wrong i was!
@aquadonkey.
@aquadonkey. 2 жыл бұрын
Its a bit more convoluted but i like the idea that the blackfyres went around trying to find other bastard targaryens, which brought him to Lys where he found the children/grandchildren of Saera Targaryen which would be Varys and potentially his sister, and Illyrios wife Serra. Making fAegon a blackfyre from just being a bastard targaryen rather than being a child/grandchild of Daemon Blackfyre
@susanmcneeley3792
@susanmcneeley3792 3 жыл бұрын
The Golden Company broke their contract to go join Daenerys, not Aegon
@lxfj2128
@lxfj2128 2 жыл бұрын
True
@johnjames1374
@johnjames1374 2 жыл бұрын
We're talking books, not TV.
@Rogue-bt4wp
@Rogue-bt4wp 4 жыл бұрын
John is Ned 2.0 and would be to naive to be an effective king..he would end up just like him.
@straat9066
@straat9066 3 жыл бұрын
Idk John is rash and violent. And it was rather unseemly that John was assassinated bc he sits in a position of strength, between stanis the wildlings and loyal brothers the mutineers signed their own death warrant to kill him. So it's not naive that he didn't see his mutany coming especially from a man like bowen marsh. But he went too far and kinda deserved it.
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 3 жыл бұрын
@@straat9066 I think Martin has several points he's trying to make as part of the "What was Aragorn's tax policy" narrative. One is that a "good" (i.e. effective) king is that he needs to be a little of everything. He needs some Ned, Tywin, Tyrion, Littlefinger, Varys, Robert, etc. That's more or less what Jaeherys I was. He could be beneficent AND ruthless. He could be a negotiator AND use dragon's to enforce his will. That seems to be Sansa's arc in the books, as she's been exposed to everyone and sees what works, what doesn't, and to what degrees.
@johnboxler8989
@johnboxler8989 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to pledge to your patreon. I’m a little confused on what content I would have access too. I can’t afford much yet your videos are awesome especially the travelers guide. Can you provide me any other info I don’t see when I click the link
@bethfinne3260
@bethfinne3260 2 жыл бұрын
Little Birds - The Best PR/Marketing Firm In Westeros. Of course this statement all depends on whether you are a customer, rival or enemy, lol.
@nanookdiwi4543
@nanookdiwi4543 4 жыл бұрын
No travelers guide to sothoryos??? The baslisk isles? Naath? Summer isles? Whyyyyyy
@daylnroegner6744
@daylnroegner6744 4 жыл бұрын
Nanook Diwi Both are amazing but this is great content
@andrenel5256
@andrenel5256 8 ай бұрын
Robert, I watched a video yesterday and I can swear it was one of yours about Young Griff and how Illyrio Mopatis and a female Blackfyre may be his parents but for the life of me I can't find it, not even on my KZbin history. Please help! If it's not one of your videos please help me find it
@perpetual_suffering1458
@perpetual_suffering1458 2 ай бұрын
I think he deleted it. Because I was certain I watched the same video but can't find it now. In this live stream he mentioned that he released a video about faegon a week before this livestream and now its not found on his channel so my best guess is that he deleted video
@LittleHammer_
@LittleHammer_ 8 ай бұрын
Could it be that Aegon is a Targaryen by blood but not Rhaegars son? Maybe a descendant of Sara Targaryen the daughter of Jahaerys? She worked in a pillow house and remained there. One of her supposed sons made claim to the Iron Throne when they chose Viserys I. Idk but I’d love to see how the story continues n ends
@JoniukasVader
@JoniukasVader 4 жыл бұрын
In Deep!
@straat9066
@straat9066 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Kevin was regent and mace hand
@Dragondan1987
@Dragondan1987 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist, septa Lemore is whyla(?), The woman King Robert knew was John Snow's mom.
@marcmarc4776
@marcmarc4776 2 жыл бұрын
This is the biggest mistake GRRM made in his series. There is no reason to have ANOTHER secret Targaryen. I believe this (along with the Dorne and Ironborne plots) are what is holding up GRRM from completing the books. He wrote himself into a corner. But since he wrote it, I have to ask why is Illyrio looking after 3 different Targaryens and not letting them know each other?
@one-eyedepi9338
@one-eyedepi9338 3 жыл бұрын
Aegon VI kinda sus
@leoferwer1813
@leoferwer1813 4 жыл бұрын
The main problem with fAegon Blackfyre is: why Varys didn't reveal himself as a Blackfyre (or a Blackfyre supporter) to Kevan when he murdered him? You don't keep secrets to the dead. Also, why in the world they didn't kill Viserys and Dany instead of rising them? Illyrio could had been killed by Robert just for being loyal to the Targs, and he was planning to destroy the targs all the time? It's illogical. Maybe giving them to the Dothraki was a way of killing them, but he waited too long to do that. And, finally, why use JonCon? To make more legitimate the claim, because he was oh-so-loyal to Rhaegar? But it is an unjustified risk having your most loyal supporters bonded by a lie. Surely Illyrio could find thousands of good commanders to the Blackfyre army in any city of Essos. I really love the Blackfyre theory. It will be spectacular if revealed to be true. But there are inconsistencies.
@mr.plainview2268
@mr.plainview2268 4 жыл бұрын
1: Varys knows the Blackfyres have almost no support left in Westeros. They lost all 5 of their rebellions bc the Targaryen Dynasty had better support everytime. When the real Aegon was killed it was literally to good of an opportunity to pass up. If Faegon is seen to be an actual Targ instead of a Blackfyre(except to golden co, Blackfyre diehards, Varys & Illyrio) he will gain all the advantages of Royal legitimacy that the Blackfyres never had; plus the supporters of House Targryen. Varys wasn't lying to Kevan in particuluar, he was putting on a show for the lil' birds (and probably getting some revenge on the Lannisters; Varys loves to revel in other character's misery, while pretending to be compassionate). The lil' birds hear the rightful heir is alive & coming to save Westeros, & the ones who can talk will tell that tale; building up Faegon's mystique & spread the word of his cause/ claim. Plus as I said it's obvious that Varys hates the Lannisters (except maybe his best frenemy Tyrion)and needs to cause division amongst the crown's supporters. He orchestrated Tyrion & Twyin's final showdown, he constantly informed on Cersei & Tyrion to one another (& informed on both of them to Tywin lol). He has always played both sides! It's not that he's lying to a deadman so much as he's putting on a mummer's farce to build up Faegon to the kids in the room. Although he does seem to enjoy metaphorically "twisting the knife" on Kevan, just like he did with Ned. After all major players in the GOT like Tywin, Tyrion, Ned, & Kevan have been screwing up Varys plans through out the story. Varys even said he couldn't take the chance that Kevan might actually fix the problems in King's Landing and bind the realm to Tommen. 2: He did not want to kill Viserys bc he wanted him and Drogo to be Faegon's version of the mummer's dragon (a unlikable & foreign enemy for the hero to vanquish). If Viserys and Drogo invaded they would have little support and be seen as invaders, making it easier for a better alternative like Faegon to gain support when he eventually fought them. Plus after they would have defeated V & D Faegon could marry Dany which would bind the two groups together and make Faegon look even more like Rhaegar's rightful heir. When Faegon married Dany people would most likely stop questioning whether he's legit or not, bc why would Dany marry a fake? 3: Jon Con serves the same purpose as marrying Dany, or posessing Blackfyre; it makes Faegon look legitimate. Not to mention Jon Con is so loyal to Rhaegar that he is willing to do anything (forsake his honor, his house's honor, or become the man he hates most: Tywin) to put Faegon on the Throne, end Robert's line, & make up for failing Rhaegar/ the Targaryen Dynasty. Not to mention he's capable, tactical, he's grown more experienced, he's been Hand once before (for Faegon's supposed Grandfather), & as I stated above the most important thing is that he's loyal to a fault. I believe him being loyal to Faegon is what will be Varys and Illyrio's eventual downfall, bc if I know if I was in Jon Con's shoes my first act as Hand would be to get rid of those two before they betrayed Faegon. I really don't see any inconsistencies w/ the Blackfyre theory, as a matter of fact I see the opposite.
@josiahdavistv1216
@josiahdavistv1216 3 жыл бұрын
It a theory that they knew deanerys had the ability to to hatch dragon egg it another theory by Preston Jacob's genetic of dragons and he says only female targaryen can hatch dragon
@LoneWolf-ro9sj
@LoneWolf-ro9sj Жыл бұрын
Septa Lemore is Serra Blackfire the concubine of Ilyrio Mopatys and the beautyful woman on the necklace’s showed tu Tyrion is the pentoshi princess married with Ilyrio who died of grey scale.They changed them to cover up the fact that Aegon is a bastard . Serra and Ilyrio were never married
@chelseaprater8821
@chelseaprater8821 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a chance that in the books Gendry is a "piss water prince" and is cersei & Roberts first true son bc she loves all her children regardless of who they really are, and so gave him up bc she has es Robert but couldn't bring herself to kill him
@goatmc
@goatmc 4 жыл бұрын
chelsea prater gendry just isn’t as big of a character in the books, so while your theory has credence, I highly doubt it, Robert cares much more for Edric Storm.
@johnjames1374
@johnjames1374 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@game_jinx
@game_jinx Жыл бұрын
why not do a travelers guide to arda
@Knight860
@Knight860 4 жыл бұрын
Varys says Aegon knows what it is like to be hunted and to be afraid. Everyone in Westeros thought the kid was dead so who would be hunting him? Perhaps a person or persons who wanted the mantle of leadership of a certain house people think died out but in fact survived in the female line?
@coryoconnor4231
@coryoconnor4231 4 жыл бұрын
Essos is a crazy place. Bound to have been hunted a few times
@bklyntraveler9705
@bklyntraveler9705 4 жыл бұрын
Septa Lemore (Le Mort)
@goatmc
@goatmc 4 жыл бұрын
Or Septa LeMore AKA there’s more to her than we know. But good thought, but I don’t see her name as a harbinger of death.
@FrayAdjacentTX
@FrayAdjacentTX 4 жыл бұрын
GRRM is said to put a lot of thought into character names...
@tymbikamason5444
@tymbikamason5444 3 ай бұрын
I would love it if Lyanna asked Ned to lie about her death because she actually had twin boys. One who took after her, and one who took after Rhaegar...tinfoil I know but, Robert would have still wanted to keep the betrothal and kill her kids. By separation of the "lock and the key" she would have ensured all three of their lives 😂!
@joebryant2349
@joebryant2349 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Con v. Sir Barristan in WoW?
@daylnroegner6744
@daylnroegner6744 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Bryant Barristan
@LSK1
@LSK1 3 жыл бұрын
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@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 4 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of when the producers of the Harry Potter movies were going to omit Kreacher and JK Rowling told them he was going to be very important later on and they should include him. I think if his plot were really important to the story George R R Martin would have ensured he was included in the TV show. If he's just going to be the guy in the Red Keep when Daeny torches the city, I don't think it matters that they just left Cersi there since she goes back to the beginning of the story.
@TheMakeSoft
@TheMakeSoft 4 жыл бұрын
Can the mumers dragon be fake magic? Who uses it fake magic? Don't know just thinking
@josiahdavistv1216
@josiahdavistv1216 3 жыл бұрын
What is fake magic
@TheMakeSoft
@TheMakeSoft 3 жыл бұрын
@@josiahdavistv1216 like an illusion or magic trick. It was silly idea anyway
@TobeWilsonNetwork
@TobeWilsonNetwork 4 жыл бұрын
fAegon is real, he’s going to marry Jon and Dany, he’s going to institute state-mandated incest. In this essay I will prove…
@josiahdavistv1216
@josiahdavistv1216 3 жыл бұрын
How will that work it going to he 2 kings and queen 😂
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 4 жыл бұрын
IDG!!!
@dalesmith7250
@dalesmith7250 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps this is over-simplifying things, but why would Jon Connington need to be "convinvced" and/or "duped" into believing Aegon is the son of Rhaegar? Why not just say something like, "Look Jon, the Targaryens are dead thanks to Robert, but we have a Blackfyre kid. Help us put him on the throne because he's better than no Targaryen at all."? Or, "Look Jon, we have a Blackfyre male and there is a Targaryen female with dragons. Help us marry them and install them on the throne together." Boom, done. I just don't see a reason to attempt to trick him.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 4 жыл бұрын
Because Jon C. would care about a child of Rhaegar's more than who rules the seven kingdoms that exiled him
@jaredbrady5566
@jaredbrady5566 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be in the "why lie to a dying man?" camp. However, I've been firmly out of it for a while now. This is a long untruth for Varys, Illyrio (young Griff's father), and Lemore (young Griff's mother) to keep. In fact it's probably harder for them to recall the truth than the lie at this point.
@Chilling_Chilling
@Chilling_Chilling Жыл бұрын
Lemore is NOT (F)Aegon's mother as you'll soon find out
@jordanford9320
@jordanford9320 8 ай бұрын
You say feagon will be welcomed by Kingslanding. But thats just ONE city in seven kingdoms and bot even the biggest why should it katter if one city likes someone when the rest oppose? Asking genuinely
@JudeLind
@JudeLind 8 ай бұрын
Taking the capital is both strategically and symbolically important
@OkaniJMCA
@OkaniJMCA 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think jon connington is a back gammon player. If he is, that makes aegon a possible catamite.
@roblewis8227
@roblewis8227 4 жыл бұрын
I never picked up on his passion for 'back gammon' either but now if you listen to the chapter where he retakes griffins roost and thinks about raegar, it is a little back gammony
@daylnroegner6744
@daylnroegner6744 4 жыл бұрын
What book are these chapters in?
@roblewis8227
@roblewis8227 4 жыл бұрын
Marmite mining for dummies
@johnjames1374
@johnjames1374 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they swap both babies?
@lxfj2128
@lxfj2128 Жыл бұрын
Because Rhaenys was like 3 and looked like Elia. She had dornish skin so it’s harder to find another child looking like her to swap in time most likely
@rorydavis5073
@rorydavis5073 2 жыл бұрын
We
@chippinround5909
@chippinround5909 4 жыл бұрын
I do not understand the current trend among asoiaf content creators and livestreams.. I cannot be the only one who doesn't enjoy these. Look at the view count compared to actual content. 1/4th of the views on a good one, sometimes waaaaay less. I don't get it.
@MI3am
@MI3am 3 жыл бұрын
Young Griff is nothing but a grift .
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