FAMILY FIGHT -- 2022 Kia Carnival vs. 2021 Toyota Sienna: Comparison

[@AM-dm1pl]

The look of the kia is just awesome! Looks really expensive, modern, cool. The Toyota hasn't really upgraded much as far as looks go. Love the gas mileage, smooth ride, AWD, and sunroof of the Toyota. Love the looks, technology, tires, of the kia. Honestly think they should talk to families with children to get input on the perfect minivan.

[@chewie94116]

Great comparison, The VIP lounge seats in the top of the line Kia Carnival made me choose Kia. Those seats are better than the Lexus LX Luxury edition ($140-150k)

[@stephanieortiz2471]

The KIA Carnival all the way! It's an amazing car. I love mine!

[@pranshugarg8714]

Hi Stephanie, How long have you been using it? How's the drive quality? I am inclined towards an EX but couldn't get a test drive yet but was able to look at it and it was amazing.

[@stephanieortiz2471]

@@pranshugarg8714 I've had it since 10May. I love it so much. It drives super smooth. Everything about it is just amazing. I have the SX trim.

[@flowers9458]

@@stephanieortiz2471 we have the SX trim. For the price difference you get so much more for your money

[@stephanieortiz2471]

@@flowers9458 exactly and the SX Prestige isn't all that if you look at all the videos about it. It's not practical. Maybe if I didn't have kids I'd get one or if my kids are all grown lol

[@flowers9458]

@@stephanieortiz2471 yeah losing the extra seat for reclining bucket seats doesn’t sell me. I do wish that the SX had a blinker camera though

[@kgirishchandra]

What a way to compare vehicles. This side by side is just a neat idea. Kudos! We almost went with Sienna until we experienced the cabin quality. We chose Carnival at the end.

[@CarConfections]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed 😁

[@JD-nw1jl]

finally!!! someone did a comparison of the Sienna Hybrid and the new Carnival! Thank you very much!!!

[@CarConfections]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@rockjock32492]

@@CarConfections absolutely amazing review. Thank you for your work!

[@bmlove81]

I'm not in the market for a minivan, but I thoroughly enjoyed this comparison video!! You guys have THE BEST car comparison videos on KZbin, period!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@CarConfections]

Thanks man!!

[@JoshWeaverRC]

But the kia is not a minivan, it's a multi purpose vehicle. Lol

[@ninalugo3851]

Went with the Kia Carnival! You won’t be disappointed. Magnificently made!

[@pierrenj79]

Me too just purchased the SX prestige .. miles and years ahead of Toyota or even Lexus.. this comment is coming from a person who already Driving Toyota Avalon ..

[@williamgraf2119]

All wheel drive is worth 10 point to me in the northwest, where the terrain tends to be slippery and hilly. MPG is far more important that drag racing. Even though your point system appears to give weight to rather minor differences, I appreciate the comparison.

[@JoshWeaverRC]

Vans with weight over the front wheels seem to do fine by me.

[@Mu5tyLaghmani]

@@JoshWeaverRC Not in snow, I agree with the guy that AWD and fuel efficiency is a big plus points.

[@take5DD]

Give me snow tires on the Carnival against AWD on the Sienna. Carnival wins in traction, cornering, and stopping.

[@josephgries4683]

@@take5DD I'll take awd and snow tires thx

[@alianetwork6190]

you just want the sienna to win because thats the car you have right? it took the sienna the entire video to get close to getting a lead on the carnival

[@AMan-cr9wq]

Thank you so much for adding a real world decibel reading, this is an incredible important feature. Family vehicles usually = long trips = must have quiet cabin. Please start to add time stops with titles on your videos to make them even more easy to navigate through.

[@dragonlips2005]

1k miles into my 2022 Carnival SX and I'm loving it thus far. More space than you know what to do with. The tech is awesome. It was either the Carnival or the Palisade, but I gave up the Palisade AWD for more space in the KIA, plus some savings with the Kia being cheaper. The ride is silky smooth. The vehicle never feels big. The 360 cam, cooled front seats and larger infotainment screen set the hook for me. Kids love the rear screens, but folks should know that the vehicle doesn't have a hotspot for mobile data. I purchased a T-Mobile 5G hotspot, and I dumped 30gbs of movies to USB sticks and the kids have everything they need. Only a few things that I would ding KIA on with the Carnival- none of them deal breakers at all. 1- Too much piano black accent in the cabin. Yes, it's what is in expensive European sports sedans, but it's not something you want in a vehicle with kids. I stash a microfiber towel in the glove for periodic wipe downs. 2. No wireless Apple Car/Android Auto. Bad MISS by KIA- actually all South Korean companies as they're all not supporting the wireless with the larger screen infotainment systems that have NAV. 3. No USB charge/power port in the console cubby. WHAT? The vehicle has like 9 USB charging ports, but none inside the cubby where you can stash things like a 5G hotspot to charge. I can't have wires exposed in my ride. Looks trashy IMO. Gotta be able to stash stuff away that's being charged. 4. The vehicle won't save your driver assist preferences. If you want to prevent the computer from applying brakes in emergency stop situations, there are options in the vehicle settings to switch to "Alarm only!" You can select those, but once you turn the key off, those settings revert back. Hopefully KIA resolves that with a future software update because that feels like a major glitch. I DO NOT want a computer applying my brakes. We've had a few folks on the Carni Owners forum report the vehicle performing emergency stops on the highway in error. That needs to be resolved. All in all, a wonderful vehicle!!

[@dragonlips2005]

Update: Kia has since released a software update the enables a 4G hotspot in the car. They give you a trial data package with Verizon. So most Carnis will have you covered if you need that mobile data.

[@nationalwalker11]

I planning to buy palisade but Carnival looks more attractive choice. Que: 1) just like palisade, does carnival have complete stop n go capability with its cruise control? 2) How is the ride quality compared to palisade? 3) is it worth loosing HUD, mood lights, better driver seat comfort & AWD for Carnival's space?

[@Kaulana478]

Thanks for the comment. I was wondering if you could stream stuff from your phone to the rear screens.

[@danr4197]

Your luck you even got one! May I ask what you paid over MSRP? I bet it was a lot.

[@dragonlips2005]

@@Kaulana478 some people have streamed to the screens using Usb/HDMI devices like Rokus or Firesticks. I actually just bought two cheap micro USB cards and dumped a bunch of movies and videos on them for the kids. They had hours of content via USB.

[@Mike_44]

Honestly if KIA brings the Carnival in AWD, it’s going to be a market game changer. I like that it’s a minivan but looks like more like an SUV too. I’ve never purchased a Korean car, but I’m really considering it with everything they’re doing.

[@flowers9458]

Do it! We love ours and it’s fun to drive and there’s literally no other minivan that looks cool

[@flutter_togetha]

Too much glossy black interior, if you're fine with it..

[@flowers9458]

@@flutter_togetha but the Toyota interior is like driving in a plastic tube

[@peacefultorture]

@@flowers9458 you both have good points. I'll take gloss black over the 90's minivan aesthetic.

[@meghannicole23]

If it ever comes in AWD it’s game over for all the other car brands that carry a minivan. Kia has definitely impressed me with all their makeovers

[@MichaelNJohnson]

Test drove the Sienna last weekend and came away impressed. Would love to test drive the Carnival, but they're sold before they get to the dealership!

[@polofunk]

Dang just like the Telluride

[@flowers9458]

Wait for the Carnival you won’t be disappointed. We love ours! We drove 250 miles to buy one

[@peacefultorture]

@@polofunk as if the Tellurides aren't the most in-demand, already-sold SUVs in the USA.

[@stephanieortiz2471]

If you're impressed with the Sienna, you'd be blown away by the Carnival. I love my SX trim in Ceramic silver!

[@fakedazzleful]

@@polofunk what else can they buy? Honda and Toyota have a shortage. If you go to a Honda lot ot Toyota. You'll be lucky to get 10 models of rav4 but go to a kia lot and You'll have plenty of option

[@aryehrosenthal2138]

Great review. The Kia Carnival is an non Hybrid engine. The Toyota Sienna being an Hybrid engine you don't hear the engine clearly.

[@Mabeylater293]

Unless you’re used to driving a raggedy Ford pintos with broken muffler, WE DON’T WANT TO HEAR OUR ENGINE!!!!!!

[@Mabeylater293]

13:43 don’t JUST wait until you get to to speed to do the quiet test. TEST IT AS YOUR ACCELERATING BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE QUIET THERE TOO.

[@tomsawyer4857]

Great point. All the Toyota hybrids I had were very noisy when accelerating hard.

[@peacefultorture]

Exactly. I just test drove both of these and the Sienna sounds like it struggles HARD when accelerating. The acceleration itself is just fine, but that sound was like "are you ok Sienna?"

[@DamianOzzy]

The Toyota sounds horrible accelerating and was given points. I dunno.

[@d.carter3850]

Great job! This is the comparison many have been waiting for. Thank you!

[@erinliedtke4301]

I ordered a carnival because I looked at used odyssey’s and siennas they wanted the same price as a brand new Kia. I ordered the SX and it comes with an amazing warranty vs buying a used odyssey with 40k miles on it. I really am not worried about the lack of awd I live in a medium climate and have driven everything from cars to Escalades. I can’t wait for cheaper tires and the fancy inside compared to my suv.. We never use our moon roof even when we had a double with kids and heat pounding on your head they just aren’t that useful for me with kids so ours is usually closed except small gaps in fall and spring so no moonroof is fine. With the shortage it took almost 6 weeks to get it we are supposed to have it soon. First minivan so hopefully I made the right choice. Buying a Kia was weird and a van but I think new is better then used.

[@Rlprime]

What state are you in? Any markups?

[@archdomster9446]

You made the right decision. I’ve owned Kia before and going almost to the highest end is a good choice. We also owned Toyota luxury minivans and Hyundais as well as western luxury cars, but I have to say, the new Kia’s are really well designed and the higher ends have amazing smart features that the other brands don’t even include. My BFF owns 3 Toyota dealerships but I still prefer KIAs.

[@timgriffith2995]

@hon solo Obviously you are correct about fuel savings, but your comment about the Toyota costing less after four years "especially in repairs" does not make sense considering the Kia has a 5 year standard warranty (so repairs would be covered under warranty...).

[@weasal97]

I went with a full loaded Sienna xle . Went from nyc to Boston for a long weekend on a tank and 1/2 of gas . It’s awesome !

[@dupax5053]

I really love how the Carnival looks but we still opted for the Sienna for the peace of mind. Plus the new look Sienna is not really too bad

[@boblewis1287]

The best of the rest

[@boblewis1287]

@@dupax5053 junk

[@atulyaop2803]

Wow you guys have done a really good job on this comparison great work.

[@weareallamericans7358]

Great review. Today's KIA is what Toyota use to be, but on a much higher technology/value proposition. When KIA brings on hybrid and/or electric flavors, it's game over.

[@CarConfections]

Thanks!

[@weareallamericans7358]

@hon solo Time will tell.

[@edbreyer]

@hon solo So who is the arrogant one?? Do you have a mirror handy?

[@weareallamericans7358]

@@jaytee742gearhead7 and it takes an act of Congress for Toyota to admit there's a problem with any of their cars. At least, Hyundai and Kia takes action.

[@weareallamericans7358]

@@jaytee742gearhead7 no worries as the warranty is standard !

[@Bus_171]

Kia look nice i love your videos

[@mitchellbonomi9309]

I've had 1 Toyota and 3 Kia's the Carnival hands down for me, that along with the Telluride are hard to come by, most are pre sold..

[@db4413-i7p]

Comparing a limited FWD Toyota to a carnival SX would have been a closer comparison. AWD is a standalone feature; isolating this comparison to a cost equivalent doesn’t make sense. Also, from what I’ve noticed, the sticker price has very little to do with what you’ll actually pay. . . .

[@edbreyer]

@hon solo Actually - if you do mostly highway driving the hybrid MPG is only marginally better. City/Town driving is where it shines - so depends on your planned use.

[@Mu5tyLaghmani]

@hon solo If you live in Canada or some part of US the AWD is a big plus point as well as fuel efficiency, I don't know why would ppl go for electronic gadgets over fundamentals and reliability, where Toyota has proven itself.

[@TheBlisteredGooch]

Carnivals where I’m at are 20k over MSRP. We got a sienna XLE at msrp. Taking delivery next week.

[@edbrownewell]

Sienna all the way, had a 2011 and upgraded to a 2021 a few months ago and this thing is just a dream/fun to drive. On our 4th Toyota and wouldn't buy anything else. Reliability is what I look for and none of them have ever left me sit. And Toyota's resale value is off the charts! This family of 5 Approves! ;)

[@flowers9458]

We just bought the Carnival after test driving all of the other comparable vans. Not only did it have more options and better looks, it has a better warranty. This family of 5 approves 😉

[@Ray-wr2wr]

​@flowers9458 Kia service department is strait up GHETTO at least here in long island NY

[@Ray-wr2wr]

​@flowers9458 u get a 10 years warranty, from kia that only cares for u for first couple years, then you have to wait for your service appointment 2-3 MONTHS 😢 kia low lifes

[@aldemio8807]

Best, most professional car comparison videos I've seen on youtube. Congrats. You got a new subscriber.

[@CarConfections]

Thank you, Al! Welcome to the Car Confections crew 😁

[@aldemio8807]

@@CarConfections 🙏👍

[@sahaf8513]

Thank you for your review.I made my final decision to go with Carnival.

[@garybolenable]

I think all the major minivan players (Honda, Kia, Toyota, Chrysler) have solid vehicles, but I think Kia just gives you much more bang for your buck.

[@Rlprime]

Not the way they’re selling. Not sure where you’re at but I was quoted close to $70k OTD for a Kia sx

[@garybolenable]

@@Rlprime - I can only speak for the Sedona I bought 3.5 years ago, but I would be interested in hearing how much you would be quoted for a minivan from one of the other major players for the same features, before I ragged on Kia.

[@dryananderson]

@@Rlprime I think you hit upon the big issue. Don’t choose a brand and try and play dealers off each other. Shop 2-3 brands and see who is discounting and who isn’t. If the vans are all similar, price becomes the deciding factor.

[@garybolenable]

@@Rlprime - Sounds like you're getting ripped off. I just did an inventory search for the Kia Carnival SX Prestige with a 100+ mile search radius from my house and the highest price quoted was $47,770.

[@Rlprime]

@@garybolenable was this an actual quote from a dealer or is this msrp on their website? They all say 40s on the website. When I actually email to inquire 4 dealers around me for a carnival sx, they were all marked up to $65k+

[@dqy2564]

I was struggling between Sienna and Odyssey. Now I'm struggling between Sienna, Odyssey and Carnival.

[@prashanthtalla]

That is always the problem with so many choices but Sienna is hybrid, and known for its reliability...Odyssey too. I'm not sure about Carnival. And how about resale value?

[@1nvertedd]

@@prashanthtalla atm resale value on the telluride is great, i mean some that are used go for higher than new ones. So id think this one is good as well.

[@yuletak]

@@1nvertedd I think you have to consider that current market conditions aren't normal. Once there is more supply to meet demand, prices will come back down. Plus vehicle sales have been suppressed during the pandemic, thus causing pent up demand.

[@garliangarcia8433]

Carnival FTW.

[@ohitsham]

@@prashanthtalla I've heard from people that honda and toyota reliability has been dropping and kia has been rising. This is what most people said in 2020 that ive read, but idk about 2021.

[@bbayerit]

You gave the Toy 1.5 points for the fuel savings, but I didn't hear a life expectancy on the batteries nor the cost of replacement to offset the gasoline differences. Why not include that in your evaluation?

[@rachelmori4297]

Not sure on this one, however my Prius had the battery replaced at 215000 miles

[@bbayerit]

@@rachelmori4297 Not being an EV owner, but previously driving 122-mile round trip to work every day, the battery wouldn't last a year apparently for me. Now I'm down to about 12,000/year and on a fixed income the typical cost of replacing the battery would put me in the poor house.

[@16odysseyexl]

I'd definitely take the Carnival!

[@robertweintraub5418]

Sienna, only AWD Hybrid minivan

[@16odysseyexl]

@@robertweintraub5418 true, but I'd still take the Carnival.

[@unknownoops2108]

@@16odysseyexl at the end of the day Japanese car will last longer than korean lol

[@16odysseyexl]

@@unknownoops2108 yes, the Sienna is definitely more reliable, but both minivans are great choices.

[@boblewis1287]

Lol douche bag

[@andresamson8859]

Kia is prettier (to my liking) both exterior and interior. Utility are about the same. BUT, i live in Quebec , so AWD is a definitive advantage, and i do 30k mile per year, so fuel economy is also a MAJOR advantage. Resale value of the Toyota will be a lot better , cuz first it’s a Toyota, AND it’s the only Hybrid AWD currently on the market, so it will be the first one available used in a few years too. So Sienna was the clear winner for me, but i’d prefer the Carnival look

[@dryananderson]

About utility, Carnival has so much more interior space. Sienna second row cannot be removed. Big difference.

[@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040]

Yeah 2020 was the last Sienna for Me. I guess I will always continue to be the Used Japanese Durable Car King.

[@waylondaly7629]

@@dryananderson actually the 2nd row seats can be removed! Fairly easily as well, just nit as easy as the back seats. Takes about 10 minutes

[@touthoj1987]

@@waylondaly7629 you want to mess with airbag and void your warranty and 10min ...

[@linuphysio]

Being an owner of Toyota Yaris, I would say it's a loyal car. Never had an issue even at 230000 km but new Kia Carnival has a refined engine and it should do the job. I hate the exterior bloated design of Sienna. They tried to make it better and of course it's better than before but not to the level that someone who likes SUV would buy it. They have cheap looking interior, may be the quality is good but presentation is so poor. Whereas the design of new Carnival is fabulous in both exterior and interior. Technology and features are even better than many premium SUVs. Kia needs to change the door handles like an SUV and cover that door tracks. I booked an SX 8n Canada already, will drive for lease for 4 yrs and change it..No headaches..Toyota lost a loyal customer becoz of their stupid designers..

[@tamoramuir2089]

I want the hybrid Sienna, and I wish there was a full PEV option. We have a large family and we've owned multiple different minivans--favorite for comfort was the Chevy Venture, but it had a horrible reliability rating. That was exactly my experience. The Mercury Villager felt very cheap--it was small, flimsy, and powerless. The Dodge Caravan wasn't as comfortable as the Venture, but better than the Villager. It worked well--until it didn't. It needed 3 transmissions by the time it hit 150,000 miles. Finally, we opted for the more expensive Sienna and that's where we've stayed. Reliable, comfortable, adequate power. Now I want to quit paying for gas. I don't ever want to deal with a transmission again. Bring on the EV.

[@pattirowell8478]

I have the Sienna and love it. I drove from Tampa to Atlanta and didn’t have to stop for gas when I got gas in Atlanta it only needed13 gallons to fill up then I drove to Indiana. I averaged 38 MPG. Also the turning radius is unbelievable can make upturns really tightly, and it is very stable on turn it is not top heavy at all. Drives like a dream and I have had no issues with power. When you need it it quickly accelerates

[@boblewis1287]

I drove my Sienna from Minneapolis to Chicago in 1 tank of gas. That's more than 450 miles

[@pattirowell8478]

I figured I could have gone just about 600 miles on a tank

[@passion830217]

The turning radius of the Sienna has nothing to brag, which is larger than the Carnival's. The Kia Sedona has an even tighter than the Carnival's

[@jjhatnm]

What about resale value or reliability? Are they both similiar?

[@RyderandNyahsToybox]

No AWD on the Carnival is a deal killer for me, totally would have jumped on it.

[@darien1784]

Who needs an AWD minivan...at that point get a truck or crossover

[@flowers9458]

Does the Sienna?

[@RyderandNyahsToybox]

@@darien1784 I definitely understand your point and was also looking at the Telluride along with other contenders, although as a current Odyssey owner (2013 and no AWD version) and making almost weekly trips to Big Bear/Mammoth with my wife and kids, we love the comfort, sliding doors and space of the Odyssey. Unfortunately we didn’t get the AWD version so found ourselves sliding and lacking grip, slapping on chains are never fun. With AWD we’d have that little extra push to get us up the mountain, unless of course it’s R3 conditions where chains are mandatory regardless. Kids would love the reclining seats and comfort on our long drives up the mountain; while each families’ needs are different, those are just some of our personal ones we’re looking for in our next vehicle.

[@RyderandNyahsToybox]

@@flowers9458 Yes, although I personally prefer the interior and exterior look of the Carnival, not to mention the better warranty on the Kia.

[@JoshWeaverRC]

@@RyderandNyahsToybox one of the only situations where awd may be warranted. Fwd and snow tires for me and I'm fine in my minivan. Inclines will always be a beast though.

[@Dzynerr]

You guys rock every time with these comparison videos! Much love!

[@CarConfections]

Thanks!

[@ArnoldJagt]

Sienna for resale value and reliability. I love mine.

[@ccroy2001]

Since I already drive a hybrid and am used to how they drive, the Sienna, even though the Carnival looks better imo. I'd rather have the high mpg.

[@batman1169]

It’s a Kia, it will last 3 years then major failures. 🤦‍♂️😆

[@adilsagadiyev5090]

@@batman1169 maybe in 20120 new kias easily last 10 years

[@stevennguyen7753]

@@adilsagadiyev5090 if you keep it in a garage and drive it like 3 times a month

[@adilsagadiyev5090]

@@stevennguyen7753 let me reword that, will last 10 years over 150k miles

[@slee2695]

@@stevennguyen7753 does vietnam make any cars?..lmao

[@ZapFlashD]

Carnival for me!

[@DJ.ZammyZ]

excellent video. i love your material how you covered this.

[@alexb5345]

since when a bigger wheel size considered better?! especially in a mini-van, when comfort is a top priority.

[@devongee1776]

Well if it makes you feel any better he only gave half a point to the Kia for exterior technology despite the mirrors being power folding and having turn signal indicators. Imo that's a full point. And the sienna weirdly regained a point and a half in the same category (interior noise) and another 1.5 for the fuel economy lol. It's kinda weird to see what shenanigans happen to keep these vehicles from sweeping eachother in comparisons.

[@alexb5345]

@@devongee1776 Agree. sometimes it seems like the comparison is built to match a desired score.

[@lkae4]

Even new subcompact SUVs have 19s. It's a trend. Half a point is fair, especially since the Sienna has tiny 17s.

[@alexb5345]

@@lkae4 Trendy doesn't means handy. i agree that bigger wheels with smaller profiles looks better, but come on - the ride is way harsher and the tires are more expensive.

[@lkae4]

@@alexb5345 I agree. It's a trade-off, like everything in life. But looks matter, especially when you have to look at the minivan you pick for the next 10 years or longer.

[@bm4305]

Toyota has a very long history of the best cars. reliable and quality.thank you guys you did a very good job. I wish you all the best.

[@rameshnarayanan8545]

Excellent comparison…the points you rated that’s great Really good job in this..

[@CarConfections]

Thank you!

[@darriontunstall3708]

I like both of them, I would pick the Kia carnival!!

[@Lendingyourlight]

The KIA engine is better then the Telluride and is the same engine as the Genesis GV80 without the supercharger, so it really is in a league of its own. It was designed by Karim Habib who worked for BMW for over 20yrs. The sport mode in this “ fun bus “ is amazing! Yeah Toyota has hybrid but lacks sporty driving and most drivers wanting a V6 and SUV ride will go for the luxury VIP SX Prestige. I don’t have young kids. I test drove everything from Mercedes GLS, BMW to Chevy Traverse and traded in my Hyundai Palisade for this AMAZING ride! The front cluster with navigation is by far better then Mercedes. KIA is #3 for reliability through JD Powers with Toyota falling behind. Lexus # 1 but we all know Japanese technology is ancient and Porsche #2. Korean vehicles are ahead of everyone in technology and safety.

[@2008gore]

This isn’t how I would compare these minivans. The Toyota costs somewhat more, being a hybrid and being a Toyota, so by choosing to compare them by equal price you’re comparing a higher trim Kia to a lower trim Toyota. The real bottom line is that the Toyota will save you almost 1000 a year in gas and more than that in fewer trips to the dealership for repairs. If you can’t afford the trim you want in Toyota, fine. But the Toyota Sienna is substantially better than the Kia, and priced higher. Is it a better value? That’s a judgment call. I choose the 2023 Sienna Platinum after 5 disastrous years owning the 2018 top trim Pacifica (a horrible, horrible vehicle, that never worked and ate batteries like breakfast bars.)

[@doobyboy21]

AWD all the way for me it wasn't even a question to consider... Space tork and AWD plus the Toyota quality for me. Love my Sienna !

[@James-sr3jh]

Love your reviews! Just a suggestion, maybe have a segment for vehicles resale/trade in value? This is something to consider when I look for a vehicle knowing it's value after several years. Thanks.

[@SpeakTruthKindly]

You are the man. AWESOME review. Yours was one of a few reviews that really helped us make our decision. We actually just bought a 2022 LX Seat Package Carnival and we really like it. After researched every minivan/MPV option VERY thoroughly we concluded that Carnival really has the best total package nailed, all things considered. Those include storage space, leg room, interior/exterior SUV design, more ground clearance, safety, better reliability than all other options in recent years, very respectable gas mileage (we’re getting 30+ on highway), unrivaled infotainment user experience, and the best warranty in the business. We used to be a Honda family but it feels like Honda has stopped trying (feels cheap, much less reliable, and VERY cramped drivers seat leg area), Chrysler interior still feels old school (with lackluster long-term satisfaction), and Toyota will cost you premium dollars for hybrid and AWD (but mechanics tell me that those options lead to more expensive maintenance in the long run). Regarding AWD, I discovered a great KZbin video showing how snow tires (plus traction control) make a much bigger difference than having AWD in the winter. And the Carnival has the BEST 2nd row center/8th seat (especially vs Honda and Toyota), reversible (rear-facing 2nd row option), and with the LX seat package we can remove 2nd row seats if we need to. And the price is VERY competitive. Toyota’s CEO recently admitted that Hyundai/Kia is the one brand family that worries him when considering their competition. For good reason.

[@CarConfections]

Thanks! Glad we help!

[@JoshWeaverRC]

Yeah snow tires on my t&c make it so easy. Thanks for all the info. My wife likes the carnival and sitting in it felt natural. My SUV is a rear wheel 6 speed manual and I'm so glad I stayed simple and light. I'm at 208k miles. The MPG is hard to turn away from but we drive easy. Will be looking to get 30 plus. My t&c gets maybe 29 at most.

[@howardlee2172]

I'm a Toyota guy but you made me reconsider my mind. Thanks for all the excellent informations. 👍

[@kino1298]

Hybrid is never the deal breaker for me when shopping for family hauler. Carnival ANYDAY👍👍

[@joea1018]

Yes I'm a Toyota fan boy because I've purchased them over the years and they are solid reliability. Toyota has 20 plus years building hybrids and has it down to a science! Everyone that I know that purchased a Kia has regret the decision. They don't last over 80k miles and needs the engine replaced.

[@emed1977]

At $5.50 a gallon, that hybrid is looking pretty sweet right now.

[@predpalina]

AWD is a must to me...Bring it on Kia!

[@dailylifeofanything399]

Agreed. Kia with that awd system in their minivan will end the competition. That car looking so sweet

[@CC-kr2fs]

LOve the Carnival, but I'm going with the Sienna due to Hybrid drive train and AWD. That makes it a game changer .

[@smrtguy77777]

Yeah to me it automatically wins just because of those two things.

[@preyingmathis2517]

CVT transmissions haven't exactly been reliable. And the warranty Toyota offers for the powertrain isn't very good. Just something to really consider lol those CVT transmissions are expensive to fix or replace.

[@smrtguy77777]

@@preyingmathis2517 The CVT in a Toyota hybrid is not at all similar to a CVT in a purely ICE vehicle, it’s night and day.

[@Voop12345]

@@preyingmathis2517 toyota is the number one brand in reliability. I don't think this should be a concern lol especially with their warranties.

[@preyingmathis2517]

@@Voop12345 I've done some more research since my last comment and have to admit I am wrong. CVT transmissions have come a long way and if something goes wrong they are cheaper to fix because there's not as many moving parts. It would appear that they are actually pretty good nowadays. And I do agree that Toyota is one of the best if not the best brands out there.

[@annewatersenberg]

It all depends on your dealbreakers. Mine are: hybrid, AWD, and that X factor of reliability… hard to beat the Toyota.

[@Raymond123188]

Except the Toyota has bad rear end crash test rating

[@TaijiArban]

@@Raymond123188 cool.

[@annewatersenberg]

@@Raymond123188 can you share data and the source? All the latest safety data seems really good for both cars- I was unable to find a recent poor rear crash rating for the 2021 model.

[@malcolmgeter5789]

For me, the better reliability of Toyota, along with the hybrid AWD was it for me. Deal done. I will be trading in my limited Rav 4 hybrid for a 21 Sienna asap. Never thought I'd be the guy with a minivan but these are really nice and don't look like the traditional mini we are accustomed to seeing. 36mi per gallon on a road trip with the family is awesome for an 8 passenger. 👌

[@VincentsfamilyCali]

Had my eye on KIA since last year when they first announce the Carnival, but will wait until one more year as this is first Gen of this model and they already has a huge recall over gas smell and possible causing fire. I think it is better to buy 2nd or 3rd year of certain model when they resolve issues found on 1st gen.

[@MarkM58]

That recall was handled on the first shipment to the US as a port hold. They couldn't be sold until the repairs were completed. All have been fixed. All subsequent shipments were fixed before shipping to the US

[@VincentsfamilyCali]

@@MarkM58 thank you, KIA takes care of this fast.. good for them

[@dragonlips2005]

@@VincentsfamilyCali Right! It's the manufacturers that DON'T recall their vehicles that you have to be worried about. They're out there.

[@Theonestrongbusleader]

Awesome Video, Also I Totally Love Both Of The Minivan's. I Totally Love The Different Design & The Fuel Economy.

[@KrazyWorldWars]

Well fuel economy on the Pacific sucks. 17 combined.

[@shirleyschiavone2891]

Please do the same comparison between the KIA Carnival SX Prestige and a 2022 Honda Odyssey Touring model.

[@rebeccaking9387]

Love my Kia Carnival

[@Superman-xr1oh]

How is it holding up 2 years later?

[@rebeccaking9387]

@Superman-xr1oh I have had problems with it and still runs like it was new

[@adamzec297]

Great video. Only complaint is giving half a point for dual screens v no screens. Also, you can watch 2 different shows + streaming Netflix. You gave as many points to this game changer as 2 extra cup holders... Great content tho!

[@take5DD]

Let me tell you guys something about AWD. It's not the end all be all during winter OK? I live in MN. I would say AWD comes into play about 5% of the time during winter. AWD cannot help you stop, which is 90% of the accidents that occurs during winter. AWD is a mental safety net for drivers. It "Makes" them feel safe. But the facts are, when you're driving in snow condition and you have to apply the brakes, the AWD will not help you stop any quicker. It's the tires. During the winter here in MN, I see hundreds of vehicles in the ditch. Guess how many of those have AWD/4WD? A ton of them. Why? Because it gives drivers a false sense of security. Oh...I have AWD...I can drive faster. Again, if you need to put on the brakes, you are sliding into the ditch my friends. AWD is not the lifesaver. If you want that, get a set of snow tires. THose will last 3 seasons. Snow tires on a Carnival beats a Sienna with AWD on A/S tires....any day...especially stopping distance.

[@aimxdy8680]

I drive a FWD Odyssey and I always see Pickups and 4x4 SUVs and crossovers in the ditch during snowstorms here in Chicago.

[@smrtguy77777]

Most of what you say is right except you didn’t mention going uphill which is very challenging for FWD even with snow tires. The Sienna’s AWD system is active until 25mph which is when you need it the most.

[@take5DD]

@@smrtguy77777 We live in a neighborhood where there is a pretty steep incline. During the winter, especially after a snowfall, I see tons of cars, trucks spin out, then back down and go around the neighborhood where the exit is flat. It's a pain in the ass. Last year, when we got the Carnival, I tried it with 3" of fresh snow. Couldn't get up that incline from a stop. I had to back up, and go around. Two weeks later with Blizzaks, we had more snow...about 4-6". I tried from a stop from that same incline and got through.....very little tire spin. I got up and through with no problem. With AWD and A/S, I'm guessing Maybe...maybe it go through OK. But I doubt it. IN the end, AWD is as only good as it's tires. If the tires are no good, you'd spin, and AWD won't do diddley.

[@smrtguy77777]

@@take5DD I agree tires are the most important but just imagine if your Carnival had snow tires AND AWD 🤓

[@machineslave3]

It’s hard to dismiss the MPG. Other brands offer more luxury but the Cabot match the MPG offered by the Sienna. We’re buying one because, living in the PNW, traffic would kill our gas mileage.

[@bobojo8591]

Hi Enjoying most of the videos so please keep up the good work. lf l may makie a suggestion about the comparison vidoes, l know it may not be easy but may be you can do something about it. 1.Can you not do a side by side comparison not top and bottom with scores displayed in the corners? lf not the current format is fine. 2. Maybe narrow the blach spaces when doing comparisons, it looks like when you take pictures with a phone and there are those black bars which could be better used to show the cars. Anyway, thanks for the videos. :Looking forward to more good things from you.

[@CarConfections]

Thanks! And thanks for the feedback. We might be able to stretch one larger than the other for some of the clips to reduce the black space. But it will get cut off somewhat since both clips are 16:9 aspect ratio, and trying to fit inside a 16:9 screen. We will give it a shot 👍

[@bobojo8591]

@@CarConfections Thanks for the reply, had no idea about that side of editting, Anyway all the best with that.

[@qw.5065]

Good video! Curious about the cabin noise in sienna. I'm shopping minivans and it seeems every brand has its upperhand. For Sienna, it's the engine noise, low tech and limited availability that stops me.

[@michaelross9262]

I have heard Kia's have problems after 60k miles. I would like to know reliability after 100k to 150k. I would also like to know how easy standard maintenance is on both.

[@jamessimpkins9704]

Really good side by side review. 👌 Awsome

[@CarConfections]

Thank you!

[@pikesa]

Awesome review! My choice is the Sienna for the mpg. Not a fan of the exterior looks of the Kia either.

[@CarConfections]

Thanks!

[@xlwirelesselectronicrepair]

Got my wife the 2021 Toyota Sienna. Love it. Great on gas huge inside . Drives ok. For a 4 Cylinder.

[@Jorritwit]

I don't understand why depreciation and future repairs aren't a big factor in your comparison. Without massive accidents, high chance most siennas are still on the road in 15 years. Will anyone take my bet that most Kias will not be? Leasing a Kia may be ok though.

[@ratbert1009ca]

Still driving my 2001 Camry (20 years) but will upgrade likely to the hydrid Sienna this year

[@Voop12345]

Exactly

[@robinluich6626]

I love my Kia Sedona. The Carnival has a large SUV exterior but I love the two tone gray and tan leather seats with red threads. I'm on my second Sedona because the first one was totalled by a 60mph side collision to my Sedona. I believe the van saved my granddaughters and my life. I know what the Sedona held up to in that crash, so I bought another Sedona

[@grantroberts8939]

Dont forget about the siennas 150k/10yr warranty on the hybrid battery which is huge! I prefer the carnival but I’ll probably buy the sienna for AWD, MPG and the hybrid battery warranty. Both awesome vans

[@coolyjavon591]

AWD is coming soon for carnival

[@ChristopherBalish]

Excellent review. Love the scoring system.

[@CarConfections]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed our weekly comparison!

[@shannondavidson1886]

The question for me is..can a Carnival go over 200,000 miles?

[@kgirishchandra]

I am planning to go long on this baby. Reach out to me in 20 years 😉

[@spoutingfiction]

My college car was a Kia rio. Sold it at 180k miles (bought at 50k miles). Never had an issue.

[@k1slk]

No competition what so ever. Carnival is the winner.

[@larryc1616]

🤡

[@Generallee85]

What?

[@bigby6023]

Except for the fire issue, cant trust my family in a kia/hyundI

[@seatime674]

Yup clear winner!!. It looks like a cool lowered Expedition and with the new designed Lambda 3 v6 motor its bulletproof. Kia has come light years the last 20 years and this is the newbeautiful specimen that won van of the Year in '22 👍

[@yuletak]

Based on some sales metrics I read recently, minivan models w/ avail AWD make up only 10% of sales numbers (forget the source). I think given the cost of R&D and manufacturing that goes into AWD, I can see why manufacturers aren't too inclined. In addition, AWD tends to be found in the higher end models as well. So unless you're in bad weather all the time, it's just not worth the returns for manufacturers. Also, IMO, AWD can give you a false sense of security. I have a Subaru w/ AWD. Without the proper tires, AWD isn't going to help you in snowy/icy conditions. Will certainly help in wet weather, but you're better off driving more carefully. Just my opinion of course. I also want to add that 19" wheels are going to introduce more road noise into the cabin as equipped. Not sure how much less noisy the Kia would be w/ the standard 17" wheels, but noise should be lower.

[@verynick]

100% with you on that about AWD. I just don’t get the obsession with it. I have driven in my fwd Corolla in snow couple of times with no issue. Better mpg and less cost on maintenance is hard to beat in fwd

[@edbreyer]

We have always had front wheel drive minivans in IL/WI area (i.e. snow) and never had an issue. Key is to have good all-season tires.

[@peterp.wanabe9299]

After having two vehicles with AWD I can say I believe ALL vehicles should be AWD. The stability on the road is just amazing and to be able to handle an unforeseen situation with ease is great. What I'd really like to see is an AWD system that incorporates enhanced stability control and even 4 wheel steering assist.

[@yuletak]

So I just took my Carnival up to the Yosemite area in late November. Fortunately, it didn't snow at all on the way up, but after I got there, we got a lot of snow. I bought a pair of chains, tho it's not recommended by the owner's manual, and these I test fitted before heading up. The way the chains went on, there was no damage to the wheels, which are ALU alloy. I wasn't going as fast as AWD vehicles, but the Carnival was pretty steady as I was careful about braking too late. My next step is to look at either all-season tires rated for winter/snow driving or purely winter/snow rated tires. This is more for my peace of mind. My point is that if you're careful, AWD isn't strictly necessary unless you really need to drive around in bad snow weather all the time.

[@ooochakalaka]

I have the Sienna and like it a lot... but I think if the Carnival was available at the time back in Febraury, I would had gone with the Carnival. I test drove it 3 times and I thought it was more comfortable and had more cargo space behind the third row...something I miss with the new Sienna vs my previous Gen3 Sienna. Also, all the hollow plastic in the interior of the Sienna still bothers me.... but hey, the MPGs are outstanding and makes me content with the Sienna, gas is $4+ where I am.... averaging 38.7 overall and on a recent road trip driving for a long period, I was getting 42+ mpg.

[@hassankhan]

what is your recommendation , should i wait for hybrid prime type sienna (where the first 50mi are 100% electric) or should i just get the 2022 hybrid sienna on financing or should i just lease the 2022 hybrid sienna and hope for a plug-in type prime hybrid in next 2 - 4 years ?

[@Alwaysbeclosing1774]

@@hassankhan I would either wait or go for the lease. The hybrid prime is the one to own long term. IMO

[@hobah293]

This was the hardest decision for me....but I chose the hybrid and have no regrets

[@Sawedoff49]

This was a very well done video guys! Keep up the great work

[@CarConfections]

Thanks!

[@ybing]

The price is similar but the trim level is not the same...

[@MasizoUrek]

Kia Interia is amazing.

[@brow06]

I think Kia is killing it rn! Especially with the k5, sorento, and telluride! I’m sure this vehicle will follow suit

[@righteousone1]

Nah, they're only killing the wallets of idiots who purchase them. KIA is overpriced trash.

[@alanmay7929]

Uhm nope, toyota sienna still wins here. Plus foyota doesn't need 10 years warranty for their cars.

[@kristians2704]

@@righteousone1 go away hater

[@alanmay7929]

@@chezzyperson3339 toyota don't have 10 year warranty because they know the quality of their products its simple.

[@charlesjackson1700]

@@righteousone1 I can't believe people would waste that kind of money on those cars.They were once considered a disposable brand that you drove for 5 years and then junked .. I guess it would all boil down to a fool and his money is soon parted😅🤮

[@matigasUlo]

We got the Kia Carnival SX. We are enjoying it so far and we have no complaints but I do love that Sienna MPG though.

[@oneoffbear1812]

The Toyota sienna hybrid battery is actually up under the front two seats

[@queenpro489]

I Love carnival

[@bubbabri7040]

I like both, but maybe a better comparison should factor in the fact that in the first five years of ownership the Toyota will already save you $2500 in fuel and also probably $3--4K in retained resale value vs. the Kia (I'm being super generous, I checked online and the difference in price between a 5 yr old Sedona SX vs. 5 yr old Toyota Sienna Limited is around $5k already); SOOOOO.... maybe add $6-7K to your budget for the Toyota and compare a higher trim like the Limited version head to head with the Kia SX trim???? Doesn't that make sense??? BTW, I suggest this because I'm in the market and I'm looking at both models as well as the Honda Odyssey. Mentally, I'm thinking Toyota for the long term...

[@budgettech5526]

You have a point but I'm also thinking about how much it's going to cost to replace the hybrid battery when it's time to do it.

[@Voop12345]

Toyota all the way..

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

@@budgettech5526 200k Toyota Pruis, still have original battery

[@budgettech5526]

@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br that's great👍

[@montero1dfw]

​@@budgettech5526 factory warranty on the battery is 10 years 150000 miles which is nice.

[@paulhoffmaster2638]

Carnival first year production has 2 recalls already. the 2022 sienna has a great warranty • Warranty o Basic warranty: 36 months/36,000miles o Corrosion perforation warranty: 60 months/ unlimited distance o Hybrid/electric system compone warranty: 96 months/100,000miles o Maintenance warranty: 24 months/25,000miles o Powertrain warranty: 60 months/60,000miles o Roadside assistance coverage: 24 months/ unlimited distance o Traction battery warranty: 120 months/150,000miles

[@אמיררמות]

Kia big time

[@mohha8916]

Fuel economy wins... With the current situation of the world.. Plus sienna is reliable.. Good job kia. But safety test is always very good with Toyota..

[@jawaharrj]

Kia carnival Is totally awesome I'm buying that and it's gonna be blue

[@stnguyen11]

The most important are the engine and the transmission reliabilities. I go for the Toyota.

[@Quoc_Nak]

Love KIA

[@gogglespaisano59]

Nice job! Thanks 😊

[@javiermalo01]

We recently bought the Sienna. Happens to be identical to the one shown on the video. We’ve had it for 3 weeks and have put 1300 miles on it. We absolutely love it. I don’t believe you can go wrong with either one of these options, though. We really like the Carnival, too. Besides the Sienna we also considered the Pacifica Hybrid, the Carnival and the Odyssey. A hybrid powertrain was a big selling point for us, plus value for the money. We chose the Sienna and we know we made an excellent choice, but it really depends on what you’re looking for. We love the gas mileage (we’re getting 34.9 mpg), and the way it drives, but the others offer a more ‘sporty’ drive at the expense of fuel efficiency. It’s worth noting that the Sienna comes with 3 different transmission settings: Eco, Normal and Sport. You can flip between these 3 on the fly, depending on your driving needs. The Sport setting offers a very decent amount of extra ‘muscle’ when needed. These are all great products at the end of the day. We hope our feedback is valuable to someone out there weighing the options.

[@erikkpritchard]

I have the 2022 Sienna, and it will collect debris inside the rear bumper causing part of the Toyota Safety Sense to fail (RCTA and BSM). It's a design flaw. So if you own this van, be prepared to regularly spray out the inside of the bumper. I would not recommend driving the Sienna on anything but dry roads with minimal dirt.

[@Paji76]

Although I liked the comparison I thought it was a little unfair to the Toyota. The Toyota was a mid-level trim and the Kia was top trim. I understand that the price point was the starting point. A Limited trim level Sienna would be about $8,000 more.

[@WJV9]

I agree, also the price comparison was of because of the AWD option on the Toyota, that would lower the price and allow for interior upgrades at similar cost to the kia.

[@ejeoifoiae99823-eoji]

yeah but Toyota just plainly ugly

[@Paji76]

@@ejeoifoiae99823-eoji I don't think it's ugly. It's definitely not the best looking in it's class. The exterior has gotten a lot better over the years. The interior is pretty darn good. That's where I'll spend the most time

[@ejeoifoiae99823-eoji]

@@Paji76 You don't think it's ugly but I think it is ugly. It is so outdated and they are out of creativity. Interior is so outdated too. People like you who doesn't really care about design would not care. But it look so ugly

[@justintheory7417]

Agreed that they should have compared in fwd only for both and perhaps upped the trim level in the sienna. A more fair comparison and would have reduced the weight of the sienna for performance testing.

[@Jose-sy1je]

Kia gives you more warranty, but any decent car nowadays should easily last up to 100k miles. What happens after that is what really matters. If you plan to keep a car long term, then go with Toyota. Especially if you are in states with high gas prices the hybrid will pay for itself. And I am not crazy about always having to look for a gas station when I have to go somewhere.

[@moizkhan8057]

I'm surprised kia didn't make a hybrid model

[@luisgsepulveda]

Wow, excellent comparison video ever seen! You won new suscribe!

[@CarConfections]

Thanks! Welcome to the Car Confections family!

[@themegamind5]

The kia feels ghetto fabulous

[@mrbillcollecta]

I know what you mean.

[@JoshWeaverRC]

Just wait till the two toned leather.

[@콩집합쥐]

I think Toyota Sienna is the best SUV ever. Of course, Kia Carnival is a good one, too. But in terms of the ride and endurance, Sienna deserves to win. I want to buy this one day.

[@sangheon100]

All in all, u only buy japanese products.

[@umanarne8793]

Well I own sienna and I love it . I always went with Honda and I am glad I made the switch. The 36 miles per gallon is just unbelievable. Also another notable thing is resale value made it easier for me to go with sienna over carnival .

[@sheogorathboethiah8307]

You're already discussing resale value when these 2 just came into the market not long ago. Smh

[@janusecornelius]

@@sheogorathboethiah8307 well records shows that toyota no matter what car it is has a better resale value over other vehicles LOL. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

[@edbreyer]

Serious question - for those of us that keep our vehicles 8-10 years how will the battery life of a hybrid impact its resale value that far down the road. I like the idea of a hybrid but that is a real concern for me.

[@umanarne8793]

@@edbreyer I do have the same concern but personally I think there is Prius data that we could look at as it is a similar technology.

[@keisha_6809]

Yass the carnival win and i love the carnival