Famous Ramayana epic now in modern English

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UC Berkeley

UC Berkeley

7 жыл бұрын

UC Berkeley professors, Robert and Sally Goldman, led the 40-year project to translate the Sanskrit epic poem Valmiki Ramayana to modern English.
Robert Goldman was a graduate student spending several years in India in the late 1960s, when, just for fun, he and a friend read the epic Sanskrit poem, the Valmiki Ramayana. Goldman was captivated by the adventures of the Hindu god Vishnu, who comes to earth on a divine mission in the form of the human hero, Rama.
“Think the Iliad and the Odyssey and the Bible in one package, and you might get a sense of it,” says Goldman, recalling the Ramayana’s simultaneously literary and religious stories of love and war, sex and violence, and mundane daily struggles sprinkled with multi-headed monsters and an army of shape-shifting monkeys.
During his original reading of the Valmiki Ramayana, he wished for a more readable English translation of the nearly 3,000-year-old classic, with its 24,000 verses constituting some 50,000 lines mostly in a 32-syllable meter. It seemed a worthy idea, considering that the legend, translated and transformed from Sanskrit into all Indian and Southeast Asian languages, sheds light on an ancient world and still influences Indian art, religion, politics and life today.
The translation saga
Shortly after joining the UC Berkeley faculty in 1971 as an assistant professor of Sanskrit, Goldman says he assembled a group of scholars, divvying up the seven books of the Ramayana among them. The Valmiki Ramayana Translation Project was off and running.
In addition to translating the story, Goldman also was determined to produce an exhaustive annotation of the Ramayana for scholars of the text that serves as a foundation for Hinduism and provided core primers for Buddhist, Islamic, Jaina and other South and Southeast Asian cultures.
Of course, there were complications.
What’s most correct?
The Ramayana originated from an oral tradition. For more than 1,000 years of the story’s telling, there were no surviving manuscripts, notes Goldman, and when the epic was written, it was copied in different scripts.
Some controversial segments were even excised from regional variants of the epic. Eventually a critical edition of the original poem Ramayana was produced in the 1960s and ‘70s by the Oriental Institute of Baroda, India, from dozens of manuscripts collected from across the Indian subcontinent. Older translations into European languages generally were laden with awkward “thees” and “thous,” says Goldman. They were, of course, also not based on the critically reconstructed text.
Over the years, Goldman has been its director, editor and principal translator. His wife, Sally Sutherland Goldman, a UC Berkeley senior lecturer of Sanskrit, has been its associate editor. It often was an uneasy job for all involved.
“We argued about it, we fought about it, we disagreed,” says Goldman, explaining that he and fellow scholars eventually would agree on the interpretation that sounds “most correct” in English.
This week, Princeton University Press publishes the project’s seventh - and final - volume, Rāmāyaṇa of Vālmīki: An Epic of Ancient India, Volume VII, the Uttarakāṇḍa. It spells the end of the project led by Goldman and a consortium of Sanskrit scholars from around the world.
Read the full story and watch a video of Goldman reciting a Ramayana passage here:
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Video by Roxanne Makasdjian and Stephen McNally
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@2sridhark
@2sridhark 7 жыл бұрын
I salute this learned Professor and his wife for taking up this arduous task and successfully completing it. Ramayana is in our blood. I have read short versions in my mother tongue (Tamil), watched it played out in Plays on stage, read the English versions, and consulted (though not fully read) the Sanskrit original text. Each has its own flavor. Then there is the highly popular TV serials that keep propping up and are watched by millions.
@user-vo8ep8jz8c
@user-vo8ep8jz8c 5 жыл бұрын
The serials are not true to the story all the time though.
@akshi400
@akshi400 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I really appreciate your effort.
@ashishjoseph3522
@ashishjoseph3522 3 жыл бұрын
Flaws in his translation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Scf5yEZs6ShJo
@archinsoni1254
@archinsoni1254 8 ай бұрын
It's the greatest literary work in the history.
@VideoSchoolOnline
@VideoSchoolOnline 7 жыл бұрын
Yay! Glad to see this video is live!
@nanak3363
@nanak3363 7 жыл бұрын
Hats off :)
@pranjalkr.saikia4199
@pranjalkr.saikia4199 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you,Sir..
@gamechanger8334
@gamechanger8334 4 жыл бұрын
Great job
@sachinjagtap4317
@sachinjagtap4317 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kethavathniranjan3555
@kethavathniranjan3555 5 жыл бұрын
Great job sir
@realindian8043
@realindian8043 4 жыл бұрын
Thanku sir ❤️
@dhritimanbhattacharjee9439
@dhritimanbhattacharjee9439 Жыл бұрын
Great
@hairbiz3798
@hairbiz3798 Жыл бұрын
Just amazing ❤
@BALWANTSINGH-fz7nm
@BALWANTSINGH-fz7nm 4 жыл бұрын
The Ramayana is not a poem . It is history of Indians.
@prathameshbhonkhade7801
@prathameshbhonkhade7801 4 жыл бұрын
No bro it's actually a poem originally
@mohit5895
@mohit5895 3 жыл бұрын
@@prathameshbhonkhade7801 It's history. Ramayana and Mahabharata are real
@Hououin-Kyoma
@Hououin-Kyoma 3 жыл бұрын
It's the History written in Poem Form
@shriyashsaxena5559
@shriyashsaxena5559 3 жыл бұрын
@@prathameshbhonkhade7801 As per the ancient times any happening in that time was written in poetic forms i.e in the form of shlokas or poems.
@Athato_Brahmajijnasa
@Athato_Brahmajijnasa 3 жыл бұрын
@Darkness Don't accept. No one cares whether you accept it or not.
@darklordgaming7406
@darklordgaming7406 3 жыл бұрын
Really great work sir Jai Shri ram 🙏
@AnimeshSinghChauhan
@AnimeshSinghChauhan 3 жыл бұрын
Do not believe him his translation isn't accurate at all. Watch this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Scf5yEZs6ShJo
@61Ghazipur
@61Ghazipur 2 жыл бұрын
Very Good. Jai Sri Ram.
@vKaran12
@vKaran12 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff - great job by these two.
@2006minesh
@2006minesh 5 жыл бұрын
Shocking that you are supporting an ignorant white man whose translation is floored. Have you not heard of the Gita press?
@vKaran12
@vKaran12 5 жыл бұрын
@@2006minesh I heard a little bit. Please tell me more.
@vainateyghadigaonkar4172
@vainateyghadigaonkar4172 5 жыл бұрын
"Robert Goldman vs. Gita Press" - Nityanand Misra & Rajiv Malhotra .watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Scf5yEZs6ShJo
@saranRamsai
@saranRamsai Жыл бұрын
Ramayana is not just a poetry. Its the essence of human greatness and behaviours of ideal society. Who ever reads and understands will automatically fall under gods protection. It will protect you in even in other life as well. Whoever contributed to the work of Ramayana will be blessed till his soul reaches god. Ramayan is the dearest to Lord Shiva himself and he chants name Ram in his meditation. Ram name has great cosmic powers to it. we can see it many other religions names starting with Ram (Ramon, Ramsey, Ramadan.. etc)
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
You have never read Valmiki Ramayana.
@saranRamsai
@saranRamsai 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@vinsin328how do you know . I have read Valmiki Ramayana. don’t just assume. Your are not professor in xmen.
@bollapragadabhaskararao4299
@bollapragadabhaskararao4299 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Prof Goldman, Though I have not gone thru your work on Ramayana, I wish to submit an essay on Cultural Habits mentioned in Valmiki Ramayan. If you have any project on Ramayan studies or Work shop I would like to submit Thank you for your great effort.
@venkatnandan8767
@venkatnandan8767 Жыл бұрын
jai sri ram
@kishantiwari8754
@kishantiwari8754 4 жыл бұрын
Yes You are right. Hinduism(Ramayana) Big knowlegdge Of Society balance.
@rajeshbhanjan783
@rajeshbhanjan783 10 ай бұрын
not 2500 years old, valmiki ramayana is written more than 9 lac years ago. I appreciate Berkeley professor Robert and Sally goldman's hard work. Jai Shri Ram to both of you and your team🙏🙏🙏
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
Evidence. Do you have a copy of the written text? There were no humans at that time. Jai Sita Ram.
@rajeshbhanjan783
@rajeshbhanjan783 4 ай бұрын
@@vinsin328 according to what you have read in British language 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nirodha35
@nirodha35 3 жыл бұрын
Why is thet total set no longer available in hardcover?
@pritammukherjee12
@pritammukherjee12 Ай бұрын
It is not a story it is a history of india
@maku8075
@maku8075 3 жыл бұрын
Go read Vivek Debroy critical edition English translation of the Valmiki Ramayana. One of the most accurate translation.
@anindanmondal8223
@anindanmondal8223 6 жыл бұрын
Respect from India. You could also take a look at Mahabharata which is more modern and complex than Ramayana.
@DivinaaCreative
@DivinaaCreative 5 жыл бұрын
@Milin Patel I think the Ramayana was written down first and he meant literature-wise
@infinite5795
@infinite5795 2 жыл бұрын
Ramayana is the oldest oral Epic as well one of the longest ones on Hindu culture as well as life of Sri Rama.
@tanmaysingh7041
@tanmaysingh7041 3 жыл бұрын
How to buy that Ramayana ?
@boymulcaster5096
@boymulcaster5096 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to buy but they are so expensive. What gives Berkeley?
@Raut-warrior
@Raut-warrior 9 ай бұрын
Try Bibek debroy's translation
@gamechanger8334
@gamechanger8334 4 жыл бұрын
That's why we believe in reincarnation. That urge to learn Indian culture didn't come randomly
@kastronomylovers777
@kastronomylovers777 3 жыл бұрын
Now the history of ramayna tv serial also available in english.ramanand sagar ramayan in english serial.
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
That is not based on Valmiki Ramayana. It was for entertainment purposes.
@kastronomylovers777
@kastronomylovers777 3 жыл бұрын
And also shree krishna serial
@KamalSingh-wb8ev
@KamalSingh-wb8ev 2 жыл бұрын
🇮🇳♥️
@arupratan1978
@arupratan1978 2 жыл бұрын
If translation of Ramayana is over, now try Mahabharat with 1 million shlokas ir verses
@nagellikiran22
@nagellikiran22 4 жыл бұрын
Many many thanks for your effort into this issue Also refer Hinduism
@mkultramann1798
@mkultramann1798 4 жыл бұрын
Not hindu!
@AnimeshSinghChauhan
@AnimeshSinghChauhan 3 жыл бұрын
Watch this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Scf5yEZs6ShJo
@ultramaxpro8537
@ultramaxpro8537 Жыл бұрын
It is not an epic. This is India's history.
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
Evidence? History is history, nothing is called India's history. India is part of the planet earth.
@gamechanger8334
@gamechanger8334 4 жыл бұрын
Next Mahabharata!!!!!!
@AnimeshSinghChauhan
@AnimeshSinghChauhan 3 жыл бұрын
People like you believe in such professors as If it was their culture look at the mistakes he purposely did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Scf5yEZs6ShJo
@ujwalmokashi6702
@ujwalmokashi6702 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like poor translation after watching Nityanand Mishra criticism.
@rudhisundar
@rudhisundar 3 жыл бұрын
VALMIKI HAS WRITTEN 6 KANDAS, BUT GOLDMAN WRITES 7TH KANDA!
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
Nope. Please provide evidence, file a court case and show the research paper for your claims.
@mrmag3156
@mrmag3156 3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry but your translation if very very wrong. Each and every verse has mistake. Why don't you read Gita Press edition
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
They do not publish Ramayana. You can file a case. Also, Gita Press is not a university.
@VIJENDRAKUMAR-ur1fd
@VIJENDRAKUMAR-ur1fd 2 жыл бұрын
THE CHARACTERS NAMES OF RAMAYAN ARE STOLEN FROM DASARATH JATAKA.
@ashoknayaki7776
@ashoknayaki7776 Жыл бұрын
Bible install
@atmatmatthemomentallthatma5604
@atmatmatthemomentallthatma5604 2 жыл бұрын
Ramayana was not written 2500 years back.
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
So when was it written?
@atmatmatthemomentallthatma5604
@atmatmatthemomentallthatma5604 4 ай бұрын
@@vinsin328 2500 years back was Maurya Dynasty. Obviously faar faar before that. Valmiki wrote Ramayan before Ram was born. So obviously around 10000 years back.
@coolgamingking4072
@coolgamingking4072 5 жыл бұрын
Not epic in the ramyana first in a ramyana best ram and sita best in 1 ramyana super
@DilipKumar-vu1eh
@DilipKumar-vu1eh Жыл бұрын
barkeys sir hindiesm world 1 dharma in earth and oldest dharm planet India se world make sabse pehle India tha world me bad me Christian Muslim country made India center for all world
@Dharmic_developer
@Dharmic_developer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir for your efforts... Just a constructive criticism But i dont think its true traslation... Plz sir can u make it more clear ❤ from India
@lifeskillprofessor3455
@lifeskillprofessor3455 5 жыл бұрын
With due respect, I want to inform you that, prof goldman sometimes seems to not have been familiar with the meaning of some basic words like 'kritgya', sometimes he seems to mistranslate. here is a video kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHy9p4yse7SFoLM
@bhargava4933
@bhargava4933 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf?
@DeepakGupta-cz7pt
@DeepakGupta-cz7pt 3 жыл бұрын
First of all its not written 2500 years ago and second it's not poem
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
So when was it written? If it is not written in the poem then what form is it written in.
@rudhisundar
@rudhisundar 5 жыл бұрын
One can't write on Ramayan unless one does Sadhna!
@user-vo8ep8jz8c
@user-vo8ep8jz8c 5 жыл бұрын
And what is Sadhna?
@VirRawlley
@VirRawlley 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think the "work" of translation was ? Can you think of a better sadhna ?
@dipalpandya6975
@dipalpandya6975 4 жыл бұрын
40 years of Purusharth is not sadhna than what is ? If u can’t see good in anything than I m sorry my friend you have no value to add by criticizing.
@vinit1366
@vinit1366 2 жыл бұрын
Best Version of Ramayana Is From Geeta Press
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
And what is that? They are not writing Ramayana. Translating into English.
@ashoknayaki7776
@ashoknayaki7776 Жыл бұрын
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@ashoknayaki7776
@ashoknayaki7776 Жыл бұрын
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@UPAKHOSALA
@UPAKHOSALA 2 жыл бұрын
Typically Western intellectual trying to interpret The History as mythology
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
You can always provide the evidence if you have it. It is Indians who call Ramayana Mythology, not Westerns. I doubt your schooling.
@RakeshSingh-rt7bt
@RakeshSingh-rt7bt 4 ай бұрын
​@@vinsin328 Indians don't call it mythology, westners and some Indian who blindly follow the west call it mythology.. But in tradition it ramayan and Mahabharata are known as itihas. धर्म अर्थ काम मोक्षाणाम, उपदेशम समन्वित पूर्व वृत्तम कथा युक्तम इतिहासम प्रचक्षते।
@chanderpal9140
@chanderpal9140 6 жыл бұрын
Listen to rajiv malhotra he will make dharshan of what these people publish is very far reality. These dont have adhikar for any these translations and commentries. Any dharmic will never read these so called translations.
@2sridhark
@2sridhark 5 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. Ramayana has been interpreted and reinterpreted in a number of ways. It is written in different languages. Rajaji wrote a short version in English and Tamil. Much earlier than that Kamban wrote his own version. One guy by name Ashok Banker wrote a 8 volume Ramayana as a "thriller"! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versions_of_Ramayana One more version is welcome. IT seems well researched.
@user-vo8ep8jz8c
@user-vo8ep8jz8c 5 жыл бұрын
How do you decide who has Adhikar and who doesn't
@AnimeshSinghChauhan
@AnimeshSinghChauhan 3 жыл бұрын
@@2sridhark watch this video and you'll know when you claims you've understood everything then it is misleading for the people who read your book. Watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Scf5yEZs6ShJo I just can't believe people like you do trust th blindly.
@AnimeshSinghChauhan
@AnimeshSinghChauhan 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-vo8ep8jz8c watch this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Scf5yEZs6ShJo
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 4 ай бұрын
And who decides that? You have no right to use KZbin by your own logic.
@venkatnandan8767
@venkatnandan8767 Жыл бұрын
jai sri ram
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