Fast DIY Onboard Air Episode 3 Rear Air Bag! Ultimate Land Rover Discovery Build Episode 23

[@jacobfreeman6625]

Was watching Matt's off-road recovery and got a laugh because he referenced you in one of his videos earlier today

[@orangepickel2]

Yep me too

[@jasonh4167]

Awsome going there next

[@DirtLifestyle]

I saw lol

[@jt-gm6ji]

I got a kick too... He should give himself more credit, his build is badass too

[@jamestaylor1078]

Same here

[@mightymite7711]

"I have such a hard time finding what I need to manifest these ideas".... Exactly this! This statement and your videos are what are driving me to picking up welding as a hobby to build out my 4x4 1st Gen Tundra. As a computer programmer, I live by the idea that there is always a solution to any problem. Fabrication is just programming....with materials!

[@OverlandPNW]

Very nice set up for air on the go !

[@DirtLifestyle]

Thanks! I look forward to some real world testing!

[@ericroot8475]

I miss your lowbuck diesel truck Nate! It's lurking in the background on every video, and I always catch myself staring. Nice air ride, btw.

[@c.shoefish]

He definitely needs to get working on that....I love the jeep tj and disco, but IMO that truck is just bad ass and the coolest vehicle he has

[@kgositheophilusbakwena3632]

With air suspension the boys at airbag are the best

[@Old_Rider]

Look forward to this every Sunday!

[@DirtLifestyle]

Thank you!

[@adidas4275]

Summit racing ships crazy fast too and has good prices.

[@Patrick_Randolph]

So happy you’re doing a series on airbags. I’ve learned more from your channel than anywhere lol. Thanks for sharing your knowledge bud.

[@DirtLifestyle]

Much appreciated 🙏

[@4runner4wd79]

Your channel is the most underrated automotive information on KZbin. Clear and concise.!!!

[@DirtLifestyle]

Thank you!

[@tyleraustin9914]

I looked everywhere for an affordable bag inflation/deflation controller last year. So glad you did this video!

[@David-cy2ug]

This series on onboard air is litteraly what I've been pulling my hair out over! I have carli air bags on my 1 ton, a arb compressor and I need a way to inflate/deflate them individually from the cab but I also want air chucks for my tires, and a train horn. Your videos are helping me figure out how I'm going to build my system. Thanks!

[@jimmyburks7030]

Can't wait to see if the twin Smittybilt compressors really put out as advertised, this could be a really cool upgrade.

[@unbornxistence]

i love summit racing. i live 15 min from it lol. glad theyre working with one of my favorite youtubers!

[@ProjectXJ]

It will be cool to see this in action when its all finished.

[@scswiger]

This is the best replacement for the power block on spike when I was a kid. Way more informative and it’s all useful opposed to the cool factor only

[@tomlucasrccrawlers9108]

You and Matt(Matt's Recovery)should do a good , long trail run some day in the future. I seen the shout-out on Matt's channel. That's cool.

[@DirtLifestyle]

I would love that!

[@ryang1856]

Great. now I need air bags... thanks Nate!

[@tomlucasrccrawlers9108]

That is incredibly cool that Summit is working with you...that's just awesome. I used Summit alot when I was building my 600hp 67 Fastback "daily". One time I ordered on Saturday and they delivered on that following Sunday(no joke). Hahaha.

[@anarchyrun8253]

I've never bought from Summit, but I won't hesitate now

[@ashtonmariefranklin1981]

Nate, was awesome to hear Matt from Matt's off road recovery give ya a shout out. This spring I'm going to be starting up my own small youtube channel. Never know will all probably meet up and go wheeling together.

[@davidcolinstillman5585]

THANK YOU NATE ❗ BE SAFE ! HAVE FUN ! GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS ON YOUR JOURNEYS IN SHOP OR OUT ON THE TRAILS ! ENJOYED !

[@erichughes9098]

Thank you Nate you made my Sunday 😎👍

[@DirtLifestyle]

Thank you for watching brother 🤘

[@evanyounker4824]

Just wanted to drop a comment to say keep up the good work. I’m a video editor/producer by trade, and wanted to let you know that your constant push to improve and add variety to your videos doesn’t go unnoticed. I get so tired of watching channels that use the same tracks, the same vlog/time lapse back and forth, and zero variety. Good production with quality and straight-forward content is a rarity in the Automotive KZbin space.

[@tracymorgan3494]

Man Nate, Your like the Celebrity of the week! Saw you cruising with Kevin from LiteBrite at KOH and just got Name dropped by Matt's Off Road Recovery! Nice to see you all supporting each other! :)

[@RecklessDevelopement]

if you don't have one, get your hands on a McMaster-Carr paper catalogue, and make an account. Just the joy of sitting down with an idea, and finding things you didn't know existed or X variant that no one bothers to carry existed is awesome :D I'm currently doing something similar on a smaller scale with my grand cherokee, I'll be going air shocks, but only for stabilization for towing tent trailer or something like that. But I have toyed with the idea of adding auto leveling and a switching valve to link/de-link the shocks from each other to get a little bit more forced articulation when I go out playing.

[@abeld.4008]

The Yellow Bible is great! While the web app is great the Bible really lets you get creative.

[@RecklessDevelopement]

@@abeld.4008 the online catalogue is great if you know what you actually need... the paper copy in your hands is mindblowing when you just have an idea :D and on that note I actually just ordered my fresh 2021 copy :D my other copy is lost somewhere in the shop and haggard from 2014 I think...

[@ltmedic3]

Thanks for answering my question on today's video. It was pretty cool to see. It is however LT as in Lieutenant.

[@travissprinkles4901]

DUDE! Finally. I’ve been needing that confirmation that you can run these into your own custom tank! I was just going to pull the trigger and buy two of these just as you have. I want to put the same setup on my dodge with a 10g tank so that I can if need be use my plasma cutter on the go. I wish you had kind of a wire diagram or something, but it shouldn’t be to to bad. So nice to find a video I have been reaserching for days and was like screw it! Ima make a video showing a sweet new way to look at these onboard compressors then found you are on top of it haha! Thanks for the video! I’m in CR Washington so not to far either! Def a subscriber, and if you ever need a hand with fab lmk! It’s what we do

[@DirtLifestyle]

Thanks man! I'm glad the video helped in some way! 👊

[@travissprinkles4901]

Oh it did! Parts are on the way rain or shine I’m putting this setup on my dodge

[@willb3018]

Yet another outstanding video. Very practical. Thanks.

[@ericswafford9149]

Coming from lowrider/minitrucking I'm right at home with solenoid valves and ptc connectors. If those ever give you trouble smc makes rock solid valves that you can plumb into your own manifold. Love seeing stuff like this on the channel! Keep it up bro!

[@a67firebird]

You’ve answered a lot of the questions I had about the air bags I’m planning for the JKU.

[@gcoronado4622]

You make such EXCELLENT videos. Thanks and keep it up!!!!

[@mikehoffman3690]

Such a creative solution.

[@deanhaggerstrom149]

Did you check into semi truck applications? All heavy truck have been using a wide variety of applications from dump valves to regulators and from auto to manual controls. It's something to check into. I built a 1976 chevy blazer using heavy truck air systems some years back with good success. Just options and food for thought...

[@DirtLifestyle]

That is what I'm find. It seems the stuff for RVs and semi trucks is the easiest to find

[@loganlexow]

I love that you're adding airbags. I'm planning on adding bags to my adventureland Astro build. Your videos are great for the confidence needed since I've never run anything like this in the past.

[@koryr1853]

Can't wait for the wiring setup. I have that compressor for off roading and am looking to incorporate it into an onboard system for my motorhome. Keep up the awesome videos.

[@mingotrd]

Dude 👏🏻 bad ass build ! I can’t wait to see it work on the trail ... staying tuned !

[@DirtLifestyle]

Thanks! Me too!

[@SubaruCT2023]

Many yrs ago on a wheeling trip to Tillamook Oregon. Browns camp specifically, we ran into a group on a trail and one guy had a Suzuki samurai with bags on all 4 corners. He had crazy amount of travel in the bags at least 12inches or more. When he started getting off kilter he just aired up bag on one side and leveled out the rig. Pretty impressive.

[@Latindanceindia]

Love all your videos. I really wanna learn how to weld and do my own electricals for my land rover

[@jeremiahallen4676]

Like the airbag setup. I would shy away from full rear air springs though, a failure on the trail could make for a miserable trip.

[@greghoffstadt667]

Nice video as always. Also nice to see you on MP and LiteBrite as well.

[@jk_wrangler13]

Things are coming along pretty good looks like 👍. Hey Matt from Matts off road recovery mentioned you in his last video.

[@DirtLifestyle]

I saw lol it was a nice surprise

[@jk_wrangler13]

@@DirtLifestyle yeah he must have learned how to do it the right way but chose to do it his way lol

[@ericl5973]

I just sport manual ball valves for my air ride as there is less to fail. I love being able to level the truck when camping or dump the bags when loading things into the truck bed.

[@triniwayne1984]

Just about to grab lunch and searched to see if you uploaded yet...in at #3. Keep em coming Nate.

[@DirtLifestyle]

Thanks!

[@ati573]

Funny, I wanted to do that and the guys at 4wparts said that was dump. I wanted it for the exact same reason you mentioned. I ended up getting a spring that was great when it was loaded and terrible for everyday driving. I'm switching to your setup. Ty

[@zeus5544332211]

I love what you are doing. Very professional camera setups and dialogue. Please give us some more closeups of the pieces you are handling like the air controller in the cab and the manifolds controllers. Etc. That’s where I tend to get lost imagining how this would work for me. Thanks for sharing your talents!

[@adamseaman7306]

Great stuff. As always!

[@tonyb2086]

Dirt Lifestyle Nate and Summit are a great match, those guys are excellent! good prices, selection, shipping. Can't go wrong. I like there website to, its on the same level as McMaster. Which is a good place for air sockets and plugs😊 Cool show, Rover is tough!!!

[@thethepete731]

The only concern I foresee is that those internal bags are prone to abrasion leaks, so just be mindful of that. I think they make sleeves for them that help. Looks great though.

[@thethepete731]

I also like that you found bags that are very close to ride height, so you can ramp up the bag pressure without having it lift it excessively, just ramp up the spring rate.

[@DirtLifestyle]

These will definitely be a consumable part. The good thing is they are only 100 bucks a pair 👍

[@051biohaz]

Love the content, lots of great tips and tricks. I’m putting a big air system in my garage and your system has given me some great ideas...super excited to see the disco in the dirt..:)

[@229Deno]

and another great video thanks

[@kellyschue3103]

So cool man ridetech is a company based out of the town I live in cool to see they had materials useful to one of your builds

[@1mangostick]

good info on the air system. Need to sort out a rear leveling solution for my F250 as I'll need bags to level it when the gooseneck trailer is hitched up, but also have air to drive tools and air up tires.

[@2Dawoods]

ugh! wanted to do this soo bad! i have an onboard twin air and figured great idea! I start adding up the parts from your parts list and it pretty much is the same cost of an over the counter air lift system that has a remote control ($500+-) I know i gotta add weight and a second system but i like redundancy and running on a Ram 3500 with a shit ton of payload.. Thank you for giving us all inspiration! As you know sometimes you can build it cheaper and better and sometimes you can buy it cheaper..... cheers brotha!

[@jasonh4167]

Awsome vid nate, I got air bags (pacbrake not sponsored)in our dodge ram 5th wheel hauler simple set up 2 lines to the license plate we always carry portable air comp. Love that you found out resources for you progects helps all of us in ours, thanks a lot Nate ✌😆

[@DirtLifestyle]

I have a very similar air back setup on my ram 3500. I believe it was air lift but same concept 🤘

[@PaulKaiser42]

The air system is awesome 👊🏻. I would like to suggest for a future build the sdi eclick suspension system....it is an active system pretty great stuff. Off road power products did two podcasts on the suspension. I think it’s suspension you’d really like 👍🏻

[@SQLRYAN]

Sunday morning with Nate's video. One of the best time of the week. Nice build but watch out with weird Google search terms. Some G-man monitoring the web be like "What the hell is this guy building?"

[@DirtLifestyle]

Lol for sure 🤣

[@mikemiller3351]

Would love to see a gear change tutorial on the taco. I know I can do it. Prob a ton of us right there, just looking for a little guidance and a nudge. Thank you

[@ms.karihart2983]

Awesome content

[@jordanbridges8962]

Great content as always. The pressures for the rear bags you mentioned in the first video make more sense with them being assistance bags rather than factory items. For reference, if you choose to swap to a full bag in future. You can get aftermarket bags 2" longer than factory that should drop straight in.

[@captainswampy9501]

Look to 18 wheelers for air controls. We have air over air switches and electric over air. I believe the valve your looking for is a pilot valve. It can be either for the air to be flowing or interrupted with the switch in the off position depending on the valve you buy. I like Haldex air products. Look at diff lock, 5th wheel lock, or suspension dump for air controlled switches.

[@ToyotaRobb]

I was saying you need ORI air struts when you mentioned air struts. I don't run them but Paul over at FabRats is a big fan. Also, you should definitely do a video with him one day he has a SAS Tacoma.

[@Nickwillfixit]

A little bemused as you can buy kits that bolt directly to a vehicle pretty sure they came with airide on some models so why. You were right not to use with the re-connect system the bags would not last long maybe weld just a cap large enough in diameter for the bag to sit on, the suspension travel limiter strap is a good idea, due to the terrain I myself would have fitted hard lines for all the lines going to the rear, this because I have had pipes I thought would never be well out of the way but no a rock kicked up from god now's where and lost fuel line, airline and my fuel pump power feed fortunate there as I did not lose much fuel. Keep the build coming.

[@FlawedOffroad]

Definitely a cool system you are building! I'm going to be doing an ac compressor driven OBA on my YJ that will also connect to my m101 trailer which will have a larger tank. No air bags but Ive already noted down a few of your ideas

[@LukeEdward]

Airbags get a bad rap. BUT many people don’t know the HUGE advantages, let alone the distinct differences, that an in-coil airbag assist can give them. I had used them many years on TJ’s for when I had a load hanging off of my hitch packer. You know... That Liberty has rear coils and ... oh, nevermind. (Just teasing you, sir!)

[@ratfarmers]

Any progress is a big win and you're definitely chipping away on it every video! I'm really looking forward to your wiring/electrical video so I can clean up what the previous owner did on my truck. Nate in the KOH video did you get any driving time in the Bilstein truck? Email me if you want to row some gears in one around town.

[@DirtLifestyle]

I agree! It's coming together! I didn't get to drive but I'm cool with that 🤘

[@ratfarmers]

Sounds good! I'm trying to be a bad influence on you and get you hooked on one! Hehe Later man.

[@redbeard1214]

I have wanted to do exactly the same thing to my tj for a long time

[@dombomb8679]

matt from matts offroad mentioned you in his latest video! awesome to see 2 of my favortie creators

[@DirtLifestyle]

I saw! I'm flattered to see that he watches lol

[@messix7768]

Nate, those smittybuilt compressors already have a pressure relief popoff built in. i think its near the compressor side on the handle.

[@AdamWrightthegeek]

Great work and informative for those like me that aren't experienced with onboard air but know about it. The Rover looks awesome as an overlanding platform, and your Jeep is a beast, so where do you see the Tacoma playing it's part? I'm guessing just a good middle ground between overlanding and off-roading? That's why many of us chose a Tacoma.

[@slamboy66]

MORR gave you a shoutout today.

[@1Tambo]

i think it was an appology

[@slamboy66]

@@1Tambo Yes, but he got a mention .

[@DirtLifestyle]

I saw lol

[@jeepindave5464]

Nate i hope you weigh this thing when done and when fully loaded for a trip. Also Matt's offroad recovery gave you a shout out this morning on his corvair build.

[@nipsy_lafett]

Hahaha 💯 my research style. Because I’m always thinking way outside the box

[@marcuspaul6635]

Nate, just in case you didn’t know you can buy OEM air springs for the rear of LR2 . I currently run an LR3/D3 on all OEM Airbags and what you will notice is inflated airbags limit flex bad. Still loving the build, some great outside the box ideas 🤘. See you also got a shout out from Matt..

[@VistaApple]

Matt sent me here !!

[@overland505]

The Smittybilts already come with pop-off valves mounted right on the compressor.

[@jameshall4385]

I knew you were full of hot air and now you made a video to prove it 😅. Can you build a pedestal inside the spring mount to give the air bag something to push against when you inflate them?

[@DirtLifestyle]

Lol. Yep, that is what I am thinking

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

You basically just re-engineered the CTIS system that's in my H1. All you needed was Tee's running an air line to each spindle... that has a hole through the middle of it :P

[@TrashPandaGarage]

Awesome job, Nate. Pretty trick. I'm not a rooftop tent guy and never really stopped to think about the need to level it. Are you kicking around any ideas to gauge how level it is once it's parked, besides the calibrated eyeball? Bubble levels on the roof rack?

[@stevewhite7994]

I’m sure u looked at airlift bags, they got some nice one with internal bump stops.

[@roomtempcoffee]

Swagelok does a lot of those smaller fittings, valves, reliefs. Definitely not cheap and definitely overkill but they sell ⅛ and ¼ inch fittings

[@liamwall8188]

Please do a video on limit straps!!

[@emersonvarley5069]

Dont worry about 120psi through the lockers... Aussie competition winch utes run 120psi all day. It also send the locker home more positively ;)

[@jonathanmoran1697]

Have you ever thought about using hydraulic cylinders and running air in them? Ashman ran those on his xj way back in the Pirate 4x4 days. I think it could be made into a cheap system that could rival ORI's or coilovers.

[@steveperez1178]

Question, but first: Awesome! I will probably do this for my LJ which gets rear-heavy when loaded for camping. I'm curious why you put the control manifold (Air side) inside, running air hoses through firewall instead of just running wires out to it on the outside under the hood.

[@ipotch1]

Not sure what your max air bag pressure is but I installed inline pre set regulators for my airbags so I don’t accidentally over fill them. Also it’s good insurance if your air solenoid gets stuck open and continues to inflate the bags. It’s happened to me on my setup. Also I made my own 12v solenoid manifold for pretty cheap with brass fittings and solenoids from Amazon.

[@Defender110SLO]

Making Discovery beather. 🍻👍😉

[@silV3rson]

You can use a small regular to step the air down like a norgren mini ro7-200-rgka

[@vincentpoole7588]

Nate. Those rear coil springs look like a very tight internal diameter vs factory ? "Boss air suspension" also offer a similar setup both Stateside and Downunder ! V.

[@jaysiahbahe3902]

-Question - regarding the air compressor such as running framing nail gun and air tools could it work with the system you have?

[@c.shoefish]

Please explain how you made the aluminum manifold in the engine compartment...looks like one solid chunk of aluminum...or is it hollowed out in the center?

[@lukefortenberry2998]

Talking about electrical have you seen the switch pro rcr stuff pretty interesting stuff should definitely check it out

[@DirtLifestyle]

I have! Very innovative for sure

[@jimmyd6819]

I run 150 psi into my arb lockers so they smash in quickly and hold The air seals will hold heaps more

[@rbuste]

System is coming together. I have a VIAIR portable compressor made for RVs that I want to keep portable. Is there any harm in duplicating the system you built minus the on demand adjustment and just having a quick connect port to hook up the compressor when needed. I would like to add bags to my overland rig to help with loaded rear end sag.

[@DirtLifestyle]

That should work great!

[@kevinwyatt873]

I know this is off topic for this video but you are very knowledgeable about the tdi swaps and I have a 4 door rubicon that caught on fire last knight so figured it’s the perfect time to seek the tdi option what are your thoughts and how can I find the info on what I need to do to make the happen

[@kylegaidos7688]

I bet you could hook this up to a clinometer or gyroscope (something like that) and make it automated. I don't have the knowledge but someone out there does

[@lfliger]

Nate, question. I have a air system on my jeep and I have a compressor that feeds a small manifold just off the compressor for my lockers in the engine bay then a long line that head to the back of the jeep to a reserve tank and the out to a fitting on the rear bumper. If I were to put a inline air dryer in the system, where would the best location be to help with water build up, near the beginning or near the reserve tank or after the reserve tank? What disconnecting my air hose I get a bit of moist air when you feel the burst from the disconnected hose. do you have a suggestion for a small inline airdryer that would work well on a vehicle

[@jdenmark1287]

Hey 👋 Nate, if only Land Rover thought to do this awhile ago. Just kidding. Check out Tibus from Germany they have a very similar system too.

[@michaeldembinski7164]

I know they are expensive but why not use the ORI struts on all four corners instead of the airbags? Benefits? Your fab work is sick though. Between Matt’s Corvair and your build I got my fix today.

[@michaeldembinski7164]

Lol nevermind. Maybe I should watch the whole video before commenting 🤦🏻‍♂️🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@DirtLifestyle]

Hey man! I think for a wheeler ORI makes one of the best solutions for hard core offroad use. Very expensive of course but a great option. For an overlander that already has coils there is no benefit in my opinion. Only rusk and extra cost. If the ORIs go flat so do you. And the lead time to get replacement parts is months long. If you are 300 miles from nowhere and you have a failure in one of your ORIs you are stranded. But if one of these rear air bags fail I still have a coil suspending the weight of the vehicle. Not to mention the ability to change the pressure as I'm driving. Both are very good suspension options as long as they are used on the right application 👍

[@Marcus_Woodard]

Great idea! I’ve been thinking of doing something like this on my M1010. Do you think a system like this would work on all 4 corners with leaf springs?

[@DirtLifestyle]

Definitely 👍

[@ruslangvilgi9151]

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