What happens when an old car crashes into a new one? | Fifth Gear Classic

In this classic episode of Fifth Gear, taken from series 5, first broadcast in 2004, the gang investigate what happened when an old car crashed into a new one.
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[@Tallandcharming]

I work for Renault in their engineering and testing facilities. The reason the airbags did not deploy on this vehicle is simply that the gear selector was set to neutral and not drive. Had it been engaged correctly then the airbag would be deployed as the circuit was complete. That being said, the passenger airbag would also only deploy if the pressure sensor in the seat was depressed also; or the switch was bypassed. All Renault vehicles are built from 2001 to deploy airbags with combined impact speed of 30mph, in this case the combined impact was much greater and it would not fail in normal road conditions.

[@ShumanGore]

Mind if i ask you something? (don't take it personally). Why does Renault design cars that are less safer compared to the european ones for South America?

[@derbigpr500]

@@ShumanGore Mind if I ask you something? Why do people in South America pay 1/3 of the cost for their Renault models compared to what people in Europe pay for their Renault cars, but expect the same quality?

[@hv54wxt]

The new car didn't detect a crash. As the hazard lights would be flashing after a crash had been detected. I suspect the ignition was off.... just like the discovery they crashed into a espace

[@Tallandcharming]

xmngr no worries, different markets have different levels of options; some countries value equipment over safety, some safety over equipment but in the case of South America it’s all to do with the cheapest price to market so that would be why your perception of Renault isn’t as good.

[@Tallandcharming]

hv54wxt yes you are correct; the ignition was likely to be on, however safety systems including hazard lights and airbags wouldn’t be deployed without the gear lever in the Drive position. The pre-tensioners fire off a different velocity sensor so that’s why they activated.

[@aymen1262]

5:50 thank me later

[@glmycassis7881]

Thx

[@christopher9727]

Jesus Christ saves He had mercy on me he can save all who all seek him today He made away through calvery repent of all sins today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit can give you peace purpose and joy and his will today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@PaulHawkins87]

Now crash a new Renault into that "new" 17 year old Espace. Outdated data now...

[@sono81tube]

Paul Hawkins that is exactly what I was thinking

[@PaulHawkins87]

@@sono81tube 😁

[@PaulHawkins87]

@@sono81tube 😁

[@d3bo552]

Well, this is from 2004, don't think they could have traveled into the future and got a new car

[@diegoalejandro8981]

Paul Hawkins the video was shot on 2004.

[@markchip1]

Now THAT'S something I'm VERY happy to see - a description that actually mentions when it was first broadcast!! Otherwise I'm left looking at numberplate and working out the year - and I can only do that because I'm British and know the system here...

[@WhereverHugo]

I found out from the bit where they talked about the "new " Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, which first launched in 2004. However, now I'm left curious. Is there any way for me to see the information from the number plate as someone outside the UK?

[@fbboringstuff]

WhereverHugo try Wikipedia. It goes into great detail. Once you learn the post 2000 era it’s quite easy.

[@MaxSpeedMike]

The new car is now worth less than the old car was

[@johnbower7452]

Still a write off.

[@thepurdychannel8866]

@@johnbower7452 old cars are built a lot better i am talking about early 2000s to 2009 cars they were the best

[@thepurdychannel8866]

@@box_cannot_car that and they were simpler

[@jeff4362]

There's barely any Espaces to be seen on Britain's roads

[@lastp6905]

@@jeff4362 I think there’s a bit of a stigma around them after Harold Shipman

[@ClammyTerror]

Someone at the studio was having a field day using the soundboard. 😅

[@markchip1]

I had one of those older Espaces! This sent a VERY BIG shiver down my spine!!!

[@crazyfroggie6546]

Could have been worse, you could have had a Rover 100 or a Chrysler Voyager, they got 0 stars.

[@paulsmith-ib3nx]

The older Espace was pre-NCAP. I owned two years ago, the 1st was the older shape on a N plate. At the time it was 8 years old. It turned out the bulkhead was so rotten that the clutch cable mounting plate had gone through it and there was a gapping hole in the bulkhead. Apparently water from the windscreen drains down the bulkhead and rots them and was a common issue. Watching that thing in the clip, I can understand why that front wheel went through into the cabin. We scrapped ours and lost a lot of money.

[@wojciechmuras553]

I almost had a Voyager... But I saw the crash test and just NOPED right out of the deal. Got an Espace III instead, served me well until got replaced... with an Espace IV, which was so greay, that I've had it until last year :D

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

Well that's what the entire idea of this orchestra was to do... To eliminate critical thinking on the matter. If it had happened at normal speed, there would be nothing to be concerned about. Slowing everything down and overly dramatising it, is what scars people mentally. I once fractured my skull, but I'm not traumatized by it, because it happened so quickly and unexpectedly. The same with almost having broken my arm. "I'm scaring you for your own good", is what an abuser or ignorant person says, so you can take it from me, that you can ignore that "advice", and drive whichever automobile you wish. I stupidly recorded this episode of 5th Gear years ago and fell for it. It took YEARS of deprogramming, to eventually clear the air and dismiss the mindset it was putting me in. Really quite evil.

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

​@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479What on earth are you on about, could you please translate this tirade into English???

[@leoncarsxd2914]

Me still owning my old espace:🥶

[@pimuce]

And what happened with a old and a new dacia ? 😅😅😅

[@CL4SSiCS]

Lol 😂

[@broderperdurabo]

You hate cars, and love to make kids.

[@broderperdurabo]

I love le kids, so ici put them in a french le car.

[@lucasbarton1773]

I like the old espace, although it’s very rare in the uk (MK1 version)

[@DashCamSerbia]

Old vs older.

[@rahulvinalnarayan9743]

The newer car didn’t think the crash was hard enough to deploy its airbags but it did think hard enough to at least give the driver a serious whiplash as his head hit the steering.

[@CheapBastard1988]

The "old" car still had a ladder chassis from the '70's. It's actually the same chassis as the Matra Simca Rancho. Valid in testing an Espace to another Espace but not valid to say about a '90's car in general.

[@kenanfurcle786]

Ah yes because all other 90's cars are designed from the ground up

[@adilachahbar1301]

I was a Renault Espace used to smuggle fuel between the Kingdom of Morocco and Algeria And the police don't bother chasing after her because they won't be able to catch her

[@eklhaft4531]

I tell you what happens: A fun session with your insurance company.

[@paulsmith-ib3nx]

I stupidly owned two Espaces. We used to joke that our last one ought to have had 6 star NCAP rating.. It's very difficult to actually have an accident in something that was permanently broken. To have had the chance to smash either of ours up would've been lovely....

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

What's "stupid" is falling for the "scare propaganda" this television orchestration scarred its viewers with. I did *at the time,* and it took literally YEARS, to get back out of it. This entire article, was evil.

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

​@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479What on earth are you on about, nothing you write makes any sense???

[@sambarker7930]

You know it's old when Plato is a guest presenter

[@tygoni91]

5:50 your welcome

[@llamedosr7843]

Does anyone else think the driver of the new car looked a bit smug?

[@robertassmaguris8539]

Cries in the corner as an classic cars enthusiast.

[@Alexandra-Rex]

For the intro of these, maybe cut out the part we will not be seeing in the video?

[@xjet]

Sorry... but SIX ads in less than SIX minutes and I gave up trying to watch this. I wanted content, not advertising!!!!

[@yourmirrorimage993]

Tip... go to the last second of the vid.. watch last second and hit replay... no more ads

[@johnbower7452]

I wonder why you got so many when all I got was 2; one at the start and another at the end.

[@RDCST]

Use an Adblock! ABP for example

[@MikeStoddart]

Don't use the KZbin app. Use a browser with an ad blocker.

[@Denis-ws2qe]

KZbin Vanced 😉

[@lamagiedubouddha7432]

Well, i have seen a 1970's Mercedes crash head to head into a modern Toyota at fairly low speed... The Toyota was very dead (bumper, lights, both front wings, radiator & co all crushed) and the Mercedes just drove home with just a few scratches on license plate & bumper.

[@elmohead]

It's never about the cars's survivability, it's about driver survivability. In your example, Toyota did its job.

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Photo's, or it didn't happen.

[@daveayerstdavies]

Steel body car meets fibreglass body car. Are we surprised at the result?

[@luckyluke5638]

One thing that should be taken into account is the weight gap. The Espace IV is about half a ton heavier than the older one, and that played a huge part in the outcome of the crash beyond the simple structure of the cars

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Nonsense, the modern car's much stiffer.

[@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333]

Great video. ☺️

[@ItsIdaho]

We had the same new Renault, and I still remember our last drive. We were at a football match and halfway on the way home it started to knock very hard, by the time we reached our Grandparents house it sounded like a tractor, once we shut it off it didn't start ever again. We also opened the hood before shutting off, if the engine wasn't bolted down it would literally run away, that thing was shaking so bad. Later Grandpa said the engine is locked up. We had that car for a short time. We then bought a VW Passat B6 which has been in our Family for 6 years already. And has 220+tkm.

[@aewhatever]

I wonder how that new van would fare against the 60 Buick

[@sudarshankj]

Time to buy a new car

[@markchip1]

Remember that this was a 2004 TV broadcast!

[@sudarshankj]

Mark Chippendale haha true that! I would still need to buy a new car 😅

[@spdzodzo]

the black car kept rolling after the impact not only due to crumple zones but also because with all those security features in place it's probably much heavier

[@danieldavies4817]

Well that was an overall 70mph impact, but that is pretty shocking

[@NoName-md5zb]

Well you are wrong

[@davekennedy6315]

They used to say that you combined both speeds to find the impact speed, that is obviously very wrong. So this is just two 35 mph impacts.

[@davekennedy6315]

70 mph impacts are very, very different. The old car would have been completely destroyed, the new car would have been unrecognisable (but survivable)

[@danieldavies4817]

@@davekennedy6315 Ah ok thanks that's what I thought originally

[@derbigpr500]

@@davekennedy6315 No, it wouldn't be unrecognizable. The damage on the new car would still not be severe, and it would be very survivable. It would just use the old car as a crumple zone. Go watch the Renault Laguna from 2001 crash into a CONCRETE WALL at 112 km/h (like 70 mph), the A-pillars don't even get damaged yet. These cars are incredibly strong. Basically, to the point where even if you crashed them into another car at like 120 mph, they passenger cell would still be structurally stable. In fact, there's videos on youtube too where people crash cars at 200 km/h into stationary parked vehicles, and you would be surprised how little damage the cars moving at 200 km/h have, less than in this video. That is so for the simple fact that the faster the new car is moving, the more energy it will smash the stationary car with, and more easily crumple it up. Cars don't stop suddenly in those crashes, the push the older lighter car away while also compressing them a lot, absorbing a lot of that energy.

[@MrSegmentfault]

You should do a new test to show what happens to a 5 star Renault when it gets into a small overlap crash. EuroNCap refuses to test it, so European car makers don't care to improve crash protection for this very common type of crash. Or.. Test what happens to a regular Polo when it crashes into a 2500kg Tesla. Extremely heavy electric vehicles are very dangerous for lighter gas powered cars.

[@romaniangamer1]

Me with a Dacia 1310 from 2002 that has no airbags, no ABS, no ESP, the car likely compresses into the passangers in case of a crash and to top it off, the back middle seat doesn't have a seatbelt. It does have headrests and safety glass tho. God help me and everyone else in it stay safe, you too guys, no matter what you drive :)

[@zaxlorax7605]

Oooo am gasit romanul nelipsit din orice sectiune de comentarii

[@romaniangamer1]

@@zaxlorax7605 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, app corecție la comentariu, nu am centură în mijloc spate deloc😂, doar 4 centuri

[@markiangooley]

Of course, an average 1990 car is already far better than an average 1960 car. Colliding a 1957 Chevy with any decent 1990 unibody car results in the ‘57 being destroyed in a way that would kill its occupants, and the ‘90 not faring badly at least by comparison.

[@ryroxfr8427]

I never see renault go that fast

[@MinecraftPro97k]

French Engineering

[@ryroxfr8427]

@@MinecraftPro97k yes they are boring

[@RWL2012]

my Clio 1.2 16v was an oddball example made on a Friday afternoon and still managed 97mph and 0-60 in 14 secs

[@scraggerson]

1:37 i cant take this seriously because of the goddamn half life 2 sound effect

[@Rashed5UAE]

Isn’t it the sound of red barrels exploding?

[@popindosin228]

That sound is not originates from HL2. It used in many different games and movies.

[@Purple_Lace]

Was anyone else left unconvinced by the crash guys explanation that the car decided airbags shouldn't go off? Yet in the slow mo you can clearly see the dummy headbutting the steering wheel 🤦‍♀️🤔

[@tilburg8683]

Yeah I think he does lol.

[@derbigpr500]

You can clearly see the dummy DOESN'T hit the steering wheel, also, dummies move way more in crashes than humans do, because they're just sitting there, whereas humans tighten up their muscles and actively go through the crash, not limp like a dummy. Dummies are purposefully designed to simulate worst-case scenario, as if a person was totally passively sitting in the seat. Secondly, the car was in neutral (for towing), and in neutral, the airbags won't go off because the car didn't even know it was moving, they probably took the battery out as well. No hazard lights came on after the crash either.

[@Purple_Lace]

I can see the point you're making. But it doesn't make sense to me that when a lot of the safety features (pre tensioners as an example) would rely on electronically controlled sensors and computers and probably motors too for the pre tensioners themselves, that they would take the battery out and compromise those safety features, when they are actually trying to ascertain the safety of the car?

[@maxd4968]

What he’s saying is correct The dummy didn’t actually hit the steering wheel so they won’t really needed

[@Wilksey37]

Listened to it at 2x speed, at 2:18 it sounded like VBH was saying "Watch 2 fanny wagons crash head on", odd choice of words I thought till I slowed it back to 1x and realised she was saying "family wagons".

[@James28R]

cool story

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Get a job.

[@adilachahbar1301]

The reason Renault Espace crashes so much is because its outer body is made of fiberglass

[@jackzac]

just to mention the old espace is made of fiberglass where the new one is steel !

[@CheapBastard1988]

Up to 2003 the Renault Espace had the ladder chassis from the 1970's Matra Rancho (one of the first SUV's in Europe). The old one may have been from the mid 1990's but structurally it had more in common with a 1970's truck or a typical 1960's car. A 1970's Mercedes W114 would have probably faired better than the old Espace (though probably still lethal). To say this about 1990's cars in general is a big claim and it would have been a more fair comparison if they used a '90's Laguna and a 2004 one. Otherwise they could have used two Meganes but as they already stated the 1998 Megane had 4 stars so it wouldn't have the dramatic effect.

[@eugen92vl]

It's made off iron not steel

[@jackzac]

@@eugen92vl hope it`s not pig iron,,,,,,,,never sell any to a certain religious group,lol

[@robertall33]

Damn... I drive around in a Vauxhall nova and a mk2 fiesta. Didn’t realise the difference was so significant from old cars to new. I don’t even have an airbag lol

[@lastp6905]

I’ve got a MK2 Cavalier, it’s probably got about as much integrity as a crisp bag now, but I’d still take that risk everyday. I’ll never get rid of it

[@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206]

@@lastp6905 Do you still have your MK2 Vauxhall Cavalier 1981-1989 ... I had one many moons ago.. These old classic cars are true "Death traps" if you were to crash against a new car with stiffer body shells. I know I have an old Toyota Celica and it is probably as safe as a supermarket trolley in a serious crash.

[@maaax1173]

Funny how they showed cars that are old af but were the new shit back when this was recorded

[@shngsam8777]

i thinking,,, old car hitting old car, might be more worse than hitting a new car right? because newer car have more crumple zone to absorbs the energy, where hitting older car is both hard shell without much crumple zone?

[@DashCamSerbia]

No, old cars are much softer, because they where not built for crash safety. New cars have very strong passenger compartment, and regardless of the crumple zones, it is much worse to crash into a new car than into an old car. With old cars, the whole car is a crumple zone, for the car that crashes into it.

[@derbigpr500]

You need to understand the difference between strength and rigidity. Old cars had some strength and basically no rigidity. So it took some energy to damage them, but once you did it, they would start crumbling like paper. New cars have a lot of strength and extreme rigidity. So even the parts designed to crumble are stronger than old cars were, whereas parts that are designed not to crumble, like the passenger cabin, are incredibly rigid, and basically would never be severely damaged in a crash against another car.

[@kyleranderson1948]

@@DashCamSerbia Old European cars are much softer. And 1995 isn't "old", I'd call it more like aged then actually old. Now 70s maybe 80s you can consider old but when people refer to tough cars its mostly the 70s and before because they were all steel framed cars with steel fender and steel anything they could make for the most part. In the 80s things really just turned to plastic and and sheet metal and quantity of quality. Now take a 1930 Plymouth sedan vs these pieces of junk or a 70s f150 250 or 350 and you'll really get to watch those new crumple zones work. But 80s-90s European and American were these plastic dinky cars that really didn't have much going for them.

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

​​​@@kyleranderson1948So your saying a 90 year old car is safer than a MK3 Espace? That 9mm round lodged in your prefrontal cortex is on the move again.

[@grahampickering1560]

The body panel were fibreglass. I used to work at a Renault car sales dealership

[@davidgriffith7756]

They never consider that not only will the driver be bracing themselves with the steering wheel ( natural human reaction ) but also , the leg will be hard against the brake pedal creating forces never tested by current testing standards

[@calcutt4]

Yeah, if the driver has time to react

[@landroverlover1662]

I want to see what happens if you crash a series land rover

[@cubechicken5626]

why this was filmed in 2000-2015 and published in 2020?? (i am from Romania and i don't know too much english)

[@crapcopter]

It was filmed in 2000-2003 and it was on TV in 2004

[@RWL2012]

it's normal for KZbin channels of TV programmes (shows) / channels to upload videos of their older content

[@ax85114]

Now its an old car vs an older one

[@lyamgamez1141]

i did blink and i actually missed it😂

[@cliffordsant3262]

Old mucsle car vs new car, thats fun to watch

[@wwfc1824]

The only problem with an old muscle car vs a new muscle car, is that both cars will be expensive, probably too expensive for the shows budget

[@twosixtwosixfivetwo]

5:57 you're welcome

[@Nose42889]

Me with my SEAT that is 30 years old: ._.

[@video99couk]

Oh dear, my "new" car is older than the old car in this old programme (it's a 1994 Toyota Celica). Then don't even think about my 1972 Hillman Avenger. Perhaps a good thing I don't have to drive either very much.

[@grzec7822]

2020: What happens when an old car crashes into an older one

[@buildert]

Start at 5:40

[@mrcarson7765]

Now imagine that NEW car vs a new car today. Even bigger of a difference. Or, a normal city hatch, something like Golf, C4 or Megane vs some big and heavy cars like a Land Cruiser or GLS...

[@derbigpr500]

No, it wouldn't be as big of a difference. From 2004 to today, car safety didn't go up much. New cars are maybe 20-30 % more rigid than those in 2004. Whereas the difference between an Espace from 2004 and one from the 90's or 80's was like 200-300% less rigidity and strength. Passive safety didn't advance as much as active systems, prevention systems, etc.

[@fbboringstuff]

Twat.

[@fbboringstuff]

BeyerT1 completely missed the point there toots, the person is an idiot and your not much better confusing them.

[@jamessaunders4265]

@@derbigpr500 these days they have added systems to try and reduce crashes

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

No, the big jump in safety occurred in the early to mid 90's.

[@jussayinmipeece1069]

so let me say the quiet part out loud. What if the damage would have been survivable if two older cars had hit each other then does it not stand to reason that two new , stiffer cars are far more dangerous to the passengers given that the forces would have been both balanced and the cars are stiffer?

[@kenanfurcle786]

Stop the conspiracy phrasing, of course it will be different with two modern cars, but the occupants would still have a much better chance of surviving

[@albotellonazo]

The airbag in the new model is defectous!!!!

[@ricky107_]

volvo who already did tests upto 50 mph back in the day sitting here like ._.

[@snhprojects2789]

They once did a test with a 740 but removed the engine out of the volvo

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

​@@snhprojects2789No they didn't, stop making things up. Volvo would have sued them if that test was in anyway unrealistic or unrepeatable. Butt Hurt go home!!!

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Old Volvo's aren't safe either

[@KhabibizGOAT]

Why is the camera always old quality

[@AW_2000]

Because it was filmed in 2004, genius.

[@jordanthomson7682]

@@AW_2000 good intel :)

[@fbboringstuff]

Why destroy a good camera?

[@DoubleOTism]

tonite on second gear - we crash these eggs into a can of beans

[@pegefounder]

This is 1450 kg vs 1750 kg weight. 300 kg more.

[@alphatrion100]

People want safe cars yet they hop on a motorbike in the weekend.

[@trackerrrr]

Sweet Jesus, they sure do like the sounds of their own voices...less blathering, more testing.

[@elmundir]

This test isn't scientific In front collision weight of car is the most important the less weighted car will take the maximum damage

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Please stop writing jibberish, it's unhelpful

[@HDestroyer787]

Just drive safely and you won't even be needing an airbag

[@elmohead]

yeah until there's a drunk driver heading your way.

[@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206]

Tell this to the ass-clown coming the other way sho is drunk

[@lucrolland7489]

Now lets try this test with an old Ford minivan against a new one in the same conditions.

[@the_kombinator]

It's not JUST 35 MP/h - it's twice that.

[@yagnation649]

They still be using a camera from 2005 tho..

[@dickbuttkiss1991]

This just old car vs old car now

[@jackthurgood9614]

Note to self: Try not to crash in the first place.

[@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206]

Tell that to the other person in the other car as well 😁

[@bogiasenov]

Why is Laguna airbag not work???

[@christopher9727]

Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@averylarsonic7897]

2004, I guess they hadn't invented the metric system yet. Why are they giving speeds in MPH?

[@christopher9727]

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[@moist.teabag]

how much more does the new one weigh

[@sssssneaker]

about 330kg

[@farvatron]

@@sssssneaker Yes. It totally overran the older one. This I believe had a huge impact on the results.

[@moist.teabag]

it should have been an old car and a modern car that weigh about the same

[@DashCamSerbia]

@@moist.teabag Can't. New cars a much heavier that old cars of the same class.

[@derbigpr500]

@@farvatron Literally irrelevant. The energy of the crash is what matters, and the total energy is combined and spread evenly to both cars. One is just much stronger and deals with that energy better, sustaining less damage. Even if you loaded up the old car with a ton of weight and made it much heavier than the new car, it would still do worse in a crash, because its body is much weaker. To give you an easy to understand analogy... you could have a balloon full of feathers that weighs more than a small ball of steel, but if you threw them into each other at the same speed, the steel ball would still penetrate the feathers and be undamaged.

[@demogaming8895]

But damn, what can I do if I don't have money for a new car

[@Mububban23]

And here's me still driving a 2003 model year car.....

[@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206]

I still drive a 1998 Car

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

2003 Vectra, 4 stars

[@abhinayphogat9176]

Hmm.. so airbags are not that critical safety feature as people think. A good chassis and seatbelt pretensioner is enough when compared to a car with unstable chassis and airbags.

[@maxd4968]

They are this impact wasn’t bid enough to make the dummy hit the steering wheel if this was at 40 the airbags would of been very important

[@Andrew-vd2ko]

This was done with volvo vs modos.

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Yup, old cars aren't safe

[@victorgrasscourt3382]

Renault seem to have raised their game...

[@maxd4968]

2004 episode

[@raimondsduda]

Lets count how many times they used sound effects

[@kenanfurcle786]

Especially that one shitty impact sound that's everywhere

[@raimondsduda]

Kenan Furcle I know right?

[@lgz2006]

*Car crashing complications*

[@pip5461]

I was surprised to see that the airbag didn't go off in the newer car, with an impact speed of 70 mph.. .

[@NoName-md5zb]

Impact speed was 70 but damage is same as 35 hitting stationary object. Thats physics

[@pip5461]

@@NoName-md5zb If it was just a normal crash test then yes, however BOTH vehicles were travelling at 35mph towards each other. You obviously weren't paying much attention in your physics lectures...

[@derbigpr500]

You should go back to elementary school and relearn physics. This is not a 70 mph crash.

[@derbigpr500]

@@pip5461 "You obviously weren't paying much attention in your physics lectures..." - How ironic. It's funny how the dumber someone is, the more confident they are in their lack of knowledge. Two cars hitting each other at 35 mph means they both went from 35 mph to 0, therefore, it's a 35 mph crash from the perspective of each car. In no way is it the same as a 70 mph crash, where a car would stop from 70 mph to 0 instantly. You're clearly mixing different concepts here, total energy of the crash with momentum, acceleration, etc. and should obviously relearn the very basics of physics, instead of telling someone else (who is right) to do so.

[@alphatrion100]

The car was in neutral. It doesnt deploy in neutral.

[@Axelo-lz1tl]

the people in the new car didnt hit the dash or steering wheel so its fine

[@jamieh4x4]

Whats the weight difference between the two? probably 500kg heavier than it used to be which partly causes the results

[@NoName-md5zb]

It is a common misconseption thinking that heavier vehicle will deform less. During impact kinetic energy is divided in half for each vehicle.

[@DashCamSerbia]

@@NoName-md5zb But G-forces are higher in a lighter car. A heavier car crashing into a lighter car, the heavier car will stil continue to move forward a cetain distance after collision, while lighter car will stop at the spot, and then move in the opposite direction. Huge G-forces in a lighter car.

[@derbigpr500]

@@DashCamSerbia It doesn't matter, the difference in G-forces is very small here, both cars stop suddenly. In fact, if you account for the much higher level of deformation in the old car, it compensates for the lack of weight and still slows down more gently than if it was more rigid.

[@DashCamSerbia]

@@derbigpr500 I am not talking about these two cars. I am talking in general. And the difference, if it happens as I described, is huge.

[@lobzstar]

The difference in mass and rigidity between the 2 vehicles is highly significant in this experiment, the new heavier vehicle as able to decelerate at a lower pace to zero as it hit a much softer object, therefore the g forces were much less in the new vehicle at point of impact due to the older car literally cushioning the blow. Invert this and you'll understand why the older car fared much worse in this experiment. Due to the differences in mass, momentum and the change of energy it's simpler to say the older car had a crash at 40mph and the new car at 30mph. Had the new car crashed into a solid brick wall instead of a fluffy old soccer mom car its damage would have been more significant, but less interesting television.

[@Sebbos_ontop]

Wow

[@stefansoder6903]

A lot of talking before a split second thing..

[@jorg8714]

Danke, ich hab schon 'n Glied

[@ukasz8784]

My father has got new Espace(good choose)

[@noneofyabusiness9734]

that lady is slow new cars are built safer not better back in the day you hit another car in the parking lot there wasn't even a dent now you hit another car in the parking lot the whole bumper is dented and scratched smh

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

They're designed to be less dangerous to pedestrians, your skull would take any hit though, it's really strong

[@paulillingworth1242]

No disrespect the old Espace wasn’t that great in its day as I recall they were like cardboard panels when they hit decent family sedans Of the time in the early 90s, it stood no chance, I suspect the newer (now quite old) Espace wouldn’t fair so well now , whilst these tests are interesting they don’t represent real life , i saw the “5 star” Laguna years ago flattened by a ford escort (escorts noted as not the toughest vehicle) at the time it respective to conditions, point of impact and load carried etc etc etc

[@derbigpr500]

" i saw the “5 star” Laguna years ago flattened by a ford escort" - That's absolute horseshit. Don't lie. Renault Laguna II is still to this day one of the cars with the highest torsional rigidity and body shell strength of any car on the road. An escord is a tin can in comparison. A 2001 Mondeo was a tin-can compared to the 2001 Laguna that got 5 stars. You can literally watch videos on the Laguna on youtube hitting concrete walls at 110 km/h and getting away looking like it was a 50 km/h crash.

[@malcolmabram2957]

Perhaps if one drives a super expensive car on the road, there must be an element of risk. Why should the peasants pay full cost in the event of an accident?

[@adamjacobadamson]

See the differences?

[@juhanhagsten9020]

So only one conclusion..the richer people survive.

[@tvardet9060]

old Lada vs. new BMW who would win? 🤔🤣

[@heiko6320]

Habe ich jetzt etwas nicht mitbekommen? Wo sind die Details von dem "neuen" Auto nach dem Crash? Wie sehen die Changen für den Fahrer in dem neuen Fahrzeug aus? Was ist das hier eigentlich für ein unprofessionelles Stück Pseudo-Wissenschaft? Sollen etwa nur Werbung für neue Fahrzeuge gemacht werden ... dann vielmals Danke für gar nichts,

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Ok let me make this as simple as possible for you. MK2 Espace driver DEAD, MK3 Espace driver walked away and got home in time for dinner. Do you know what I mean???

[@grabir01]

The new car should have gone against a 1965 Chevy Impala.

[@fbboringstuff]

grabir01 you mean 56 twat!!! Assuming it a reference to IIHS 50th test.

[@paraskevaspapantonakis]

@@fbboringstuff nah I think a toyota landcruiser which is pretty strong for a crash test

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

It would destroy a 1965 Impala

[@grabir01]

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Failed Physics class apparently.

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

@@grabir01 No, common sense. You're literally brain dead if you think a 90 year old car's going to do well in a crash.

[@pcr8918]

Oldie but goodie. Not fair but Tesla 3 vs F150 for our American cousins?

[@markchip1]

2004 British TV broadcast...

[@maxd4968]

trslas aren’t the safest cars

[@justingibbons9929]

Arrived

[@peetersbjorn]

came here because i mistakenly read top gear.... dissapointment hit me hard

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Do you miss Richard The Hammond?

[@Intunecat]

Dont hate Renault they realy do prety cars and not so expensive and safety is something normal for them 😉

[@ricky107_]

so basically all drive unsafer cars youll survive

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

Please respond in English next time sweetie, really helps.

[@quinn_nz]

MAY the FORTH be with you