Film Theory: How to BEAT Homelander (The Boys)

SUBSCRIBE to Film Theory!
Don't miss a Film Theory! ► www.youtube.com/@FilmTheory/?...
If you’ve seen The Boys on Amazon Prime you know that Homelander is SUPER powerful. But just how powerful is the flying man with super strength and heat vision? Like, scientifically, how much can Homelander lift, bro? Exactly how fast can he travel? And how extreme is his heat vision? Today, Loyal Theorist, we’re breaking down Homelander’s physical strength but also his BIGGEST weakness. And trust us, you won’t believe what this means for The Boys Season 4.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
🔽 Don’t Miss Out!
Get Your TheoryWear! ► theorywear.com/
Dive into the Reddit! ► / gametheorists
Need Royalty Free Music for your Content? Try Epidemic Sound.
Get Your 30 Day Free Trial Now ► share.epidemicsound.com/TheFil...
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
👀 Watch MORE Theories:
Invincible’s Omni Man Was Right? ►► • Film Theory: Omni Man ...
The Marvel Gods Have FALLEN! ►► • Film Theory: The Marve...
Disney is Finally DEAD! ►► • Film Theory: Disney is...
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
Join Our Other KZbin Channels!
​🕹️ @GameTheory
🍔 @FoodTheory
👔 @StyleTheorists
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
Credits:
Writers: Matthew Patrick and Forrest Lee
Editors: JayskiBean, Brandon_n_motion, AbsolutePixel, and Lace
Sound Designer: Yosi Berman
Thumbnail Artist: Dan Lerner and DasGnomo
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
#TheBoys #Homelander #Superhero #TheBoysAmazon #HomelanderMemes #HomelanderEdit #PrimeVideo #Invincible #Superheroes #Trailer #Theory #FilmTheory #Matpat

[@E2theTHAN]

They already tried this in the show and homelander told them he'd rather be loved then feared but if they ruin his reputation he has no problem being feared because he has nothing left to lose at that point. So I don't think it's his greatest weakness anymore....

[@benwagner5089]

At best, it might be a way to try to control him. Make his PR team into a bunch of fatalist "we're all going to die anyway" types who wouldn't be afraid of telling the world about the man behind the image. He still wants to be loved though he'd settle for being feared, and they'll give him the adoration platform he wants if he sticks to the script they lay down for him.

[@Raderade1-pt3om]

Maybe it was show foreshadowing what to come, homelande loses everything and everyone goes after him to take him down before he destroys everything. Sigh

[@handleofthehabibi]

Reminds me of a bronx tale would u rather be loved or feared

[@Trainerlynx]

I was gonna point that out too lol, if they ruin his reputation, he probably couldn't be stopped because he has nothing left to lose anyway

[@braziliancyborg4249]

It could be interpreted as him bluffing for intimidation, he isn't that cool with that thought as he sounded probably

[@burp3322]

the biggest issue with this is, they address this in the show, starlight tries to blackmail homelander, destroy his brand, but he just shrugs it off, explaining that while he loves his brand, he would just be fine with taking control back by force, describing how hed destroy the world

[@GigaLigma]

He doesn't just say that he'd be "fine with it," he goes so far as to say he's being held back by his reputation and that without it he'd have no reason to keep pretending to be a good guy. Almost implies part of him WANTS something to happen to his reputation so he doesn't have to behave anymore.

[@squiggur6258]

yea this is not a theory he’s basically just summarizing the show

[@sibsart2039]

Ya, he says something like “if you destroy my image then I don’t need to hold back anymore”

[@eavocado5890pppj]

@@GigaLigma ....but we know that's not true; he is clearly shown to care the most about his image and approval, and he literally has mommy issues.

[@homerman76]

​@@eavocado5890pppj It makes you wonder if he's actually just maintaining false bravado so people DON'T go after the one thing he really cares about 🤔

[@NANOTECHYT]

The actual way to beat Homelander is probably a supe like Mindstorm. Homelander might be physically strong, but his mind is clearly a weak point and just putting him in a constant nightmare seems like a sure fire way to defeat him. From there you can send him into the vacuum of space towards the Sun to perish.

[@asiamarill]

that was i thinking too when i watched that episode. Homelander can hear heartbeat and sense body temperature,that would be difficult. I mean the supe who can explode heads could take him out easily too,but she needs him for her own plans

[@GROMOVNIK05]

​@@asiamarillshe cant, she tried it on starlight but she only got a bit of a nosebleed, remember the scene after she exploded bunch of peoples heads? Homelander is strong enough to negate her power completly given that he is much stronger than starlight

[@megkrish7568]

Someone with both telekinetic and telepathic abilities would be able to beat him for sure. If they introduce someone like Jean Grey or Scarlet witch that would do the trick

[@shivamjha5578]

Nah , mindstorm could only stun sb for a few seconds and home lander is a far stronger supe so its not possible

[@NANOTECHYT]

​@@shivamjha5578 It hasn't been shown that Mindstorm couldn't do it in his younger age. As Mindstorm got older, he could not manipulate other supes, only regular humans as his powers became less potent. However, when his powers were at their apex in his prime at a young age, he probably could, especially with how mentally unbalanced Homelander is. The fact that Soldier Boy was afraid of Mindstorm's powers, still tells you that he remembers his younger self being a threat to him personally. We also saw in Gen V that Cate could trap other supes in her mind, so again a supe like Mindstorm or Cate has a very real possibility of at least knocking Homelander out for a while, maybe long enough for another supe to either take away his powers like Soldier Boy can by blasting the Compound V out of him or by pushing him toward the sun out into the vacuum of space as Homelander still has to breathe and likely can't fly in space.

[@purplexus]

I think the scariest part about Homelander is how many people didn’t realize he was satire and are rooting for his redemption arc.

[@trumpwonBIGLY]

no

[@ACE112ACE112]

rooting for a fictional character dictate someone's iemrl feelings necessarily

[@keshi5541]

He sort of gets a redemption arc in the comics. Until he gets killed by his own clone.

[@redblue5140]

yeah the show is not serious stuff like that isnt going to happen. its a satirical show its not a drama

[@user-fd2ce5qo5c]

i’d be nice to see him better himself

[@diddyjohn6872]

I loved the theory but as other people have pointed out once Homelander's brand is ruined there's nothing holding him back. As Homelander said "sure I'll lose everything, but then I'll have nothing to lose"

[@VolkerAlmighty]

my exact thoughts

[@GazBC4U]

Milk.

[@derpyderp6719]

Bread.

[@Marveryn]

right, he will go scorch earth.

[@mggardiner4066]

Yes his brand has also been tied to his weakness (severe psychological problems/narcissisism). His emotional and mental weakness and craving for adoration and love has been consistently the only thing short of tricking him that the protagonists and other villains have been able to exploit prior to S3

[@tinywow344]

What I find interesting is that if you were to destroy homelanders brand, he would actually go farther off the deep end than he already has. In the show he said that if they destroyed his brand that he’d have nothing left to lose (or something like that) so it would open up a whole new problem for the show with him just being a flat out supervillain. Interesting as always matpat ❤

[@adhamsherif6230]

yea it was stated that the only thing holding homelander from killing everyone and everything is his narcissism and his need for consistent attention

[@alexties6933]

The thing about having nothing left to loose is that you have lost everything lol

[@ViperOnRR]

"Sure I'll lose everything, but then I'll have nothing to lose" is his exact phrasing

[@djzombie5117]

and that little quote kinda brings down the whole theory @@ViperOnRR

[@axadrawzsom]

I was about to say that…..

[@craftmaster343]

He has already said he would go "scorched earth" if people began to hate him as at that point he'd have nothing to lose. However a small point mentioned in the show is that Zinc is apparently the one and only thing that he cannot use his x-ray vision to see through. This is the only "weakness" he's been confirmed to have.

[@tominieminen66]

I was thinking about super hearing + loud noise but he shrugged off an explosion noise like nothing

[@arthurmartin4616]

@@tominieminen66 Maybe if there was a way to sustain that kind of noise level? Because an explosion doesn't really last that long.

[@tominieminen66]

@@arthurmartin4616 Ehh... explosion that close should definitely do the trick, he at least seemed completely unfazed Of course extended noise would be way worse, but he should have shown at least some effect to make this his weakness

[@jonny-b4954]

​@arthurmartin4616 Well, it was the sonic noise things Butcher used as a distraction. That annoyed him, but he could still function

[@MensaGiraffe]

You could have theorized Hughie teleporting Homelander near the Sun and leaving him to be pulled in by it's immense gravity. Even if Homelander was able to break away from the gravity (highly doubtful), he wouldn't be able to breathe in space. Or Hughie can attempt to teleport himself inside of Homelander, essentially destroying everything in his body.

[@thedoomslayer5863]

The Second would be akin to putting yourself in a shrinking titanium cube. You'd be crushed to death. Inside out attacks won't work as he's just as durable in and out. Also if hughie even for milliseconds goes near the sun he will burn to a crisp. So it would be a self sacrifice attack

[@MensaGiraffe]

@@thedoomslayer5863 It would still be a possible method.

[@froggo6339]

@@thedoomslayer5863 well yea, if hughie takes any more temp v he will die anyways. so yes it would be a self sacrifice as designed.

[@mjb2697]

For the first time in a while, Pat missed. This theory was addressed in the show with Starlight trying to blackmail Homelander, who simply stated that he'd take power by force and wipe out entire cities if he must. So this is definitely NOT the way they're gonna have to bring Homelander down.

[@Sabitar1]

They also recently missed on the GTA VI trailer video where they claimed Michael was in witness protection lol

[@WackMaDino]

This is just kinda like a filler theory where he goes over a bunch of random stuff and tries to loop them together for a clickable video, it’s nothing new really he sorta has to put these out until the time comes for a bigger theory. Even still, the power scaling stuff in the first half of the video was good, I think he should do more stuff like that because he doesn’t really have to consider the wider context and story of the show to do fun calculations of how far man throw thing.

[@xxcombatbasher001xx]

Honestly not the first time in a while. Feels like the theory channels have been on a downward trend with gta vi being a painful example.

[@WackMaDino]

@@xxcombatbasher001xx i still dont even know what people found so bad about that theory aside from the one line about witness protection, it seemed pretty standard

[@user-ts1kp5dj9q]

What else did he theorize thats just already been proven false? I remember the genshin video being one lololol. I think I've heard of another but im not sure, was it a video on vikings? His team is known to make extensive research so they dont make any mistakes but i wonder how many times theyve messed up​@@xxcombatbasher001xx

[@InevitableMayo]

Big problem with the theory. Homelander has even said himself that if he goes down, he'll take the world with him. Unless you're killing him, you can't beat him.

[@rapidagent4569]

Whats stopping them (aside from like capturing and stuff) from pulling another translucent.

[@dautolover]

It's also entirely possible that he was bluffing solely to prevent Starlight from releasing the tape. It was quite an easy bluff to pull off, considering Starlight legitimately cares about humanity.

[@InevitableMayo]

@@dautolover To be fair there is that. He's so powerful, beyond what anyone actually realises, nobody knows what he's capable of. So when he says he'll destroy the world, he may not actually be capable. But the others don't know that

[@xzeuii]

Also: Same thing happened in the comics. Rep ruined, so he gathered as many supes as he could, killed the president, and took over the country.

[@MrSpartan993]

He NEEDS to die anyway.

[@Conceptual69a]

"able to grab an f-16 fighter jet": shows a McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II

[@weirdyadav]

THANK YOU I WAS SO MAD AT THIS FOR NO REASON! GLAD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED!!!

[@pb_monkey]

Blah blah blah

[@Conceptual69a]

@@pb_monkey Nuh uh

[@Toast._]

Hey Matpat,the jet Homelander threw in the comics was AV-8B Harrier which at empty weight is roughly 6,700lbs lighter than the F-16. Just noticed that mistake, love listening to ya theories!

[@jayb8934]

This "weakness" is addressed in the show when Starlight threatens to blackmail him. As Homelander himself says (something to the effect of), "I'd rather be loved, but I'll settle for being feared." The fact that he cares about his reputation is the only thing that keeps him in check, but that can only be exploited so far. If he loses that, he would likely just go on a rampage. So robbing him of the adoration that he craves would actually be the worst thing you could do.

[@ZerpFor]

He's now praised for who he is. He has nothing to fear anymore

[@CHRF-55457]

From superhero to supervillain

[@panman4459]

Theory idea: You should make a Duolingo theory where you analyse the lore of the characters off of the stories in the app.

[@mon_nobi]

His brand/reputation was a weakness at first but yes he outgrew that as he started to take control of both Vought and his own life, but the change was initiated not by a spontaneous corporate/PR takeover but by the realization that he has a family bloodline. He literally seized power upon finding out that he was lied to and not actually infertile/impotent. So therefore, his real weakness once the brand goes away is his attachments to his humanity, specifically things like family, having a son or father or mother figure. The father & mother figure boats may have sailed so it seems now that his main weakness will be Ryan, and I mean that not just as in he loses Ryan's trust, but as in he comes to blows with his superpowered son, strong enough to melt Stormfront, and essentially the main one who can challenge him both emotionally and physically.

[@esmineldraaybara6975]

I think the reason Butcher didn't die was because Homelander was shielding him while carrying him. So relative to Homelander, Butcher was at rest. While the air particles and other things which would've turned him to mush were blocked by Homelander. Similar to how fighter plane pilots are fine inside the plane at speeds at which humans would've become soup. Obviously the lift and stop would've still put immense amount of Gs on Butcher, which is why we see him waking up from being knocked out cold.

[@skillzorz101]

I think the acceleration would do a whole lot worse than causing unconsciousness. If a fighter pilot went from 0 to full speed, faster than an explosion, they would be dead even inside the cockpit. Your brain would be compressed on one side of your skull, for starters. It's like experience immense gravity for a split second.

[@csquared973]

Exactly- ur insides would liquefy

[@ewutermohlen]

​@@skillzorz101the comment assumes Butcher was accelerated at a more moderate pace. While being shielded from the blast, Homelander wanted to show Butcher something. So he kept him alive quite carefully since there were no signs of damage on Butcher.

[@Ife-jw7ei]

his weakness is that he hasn’t fought anyone that’s a challenge for him so he won’t get any better

[@recordedanemone6399]

Homelander deadass one of the best written villains in cinema history. He's so unnervingly twisted it always makes for a great scene wherever he is.

[@cubebutpro298]

​Matpat should make a film theory on you​@@PWRGEUTTP

[@ViperOnRR]

Antony Starr's performance is incredible he just injects pure tension into every scene

[@BarcaFan1899]

⁠@@ViperOnRRI love that in a cast interview when they were asked which of them is most like their character everyone with no hesitation points to Antony

[@NikkiBudders]

And due credit to his actor, my god that man can scare me with just a look. 12/10

[@manuelk1853]

And he is funny in a dark way

[@Yashuop]

Claim your “here within an hour” ticket right here🏆

[@user-zb4dp4vr8l]

here

[@SuperTessa25]

Within 30 secs actually

[@LLeemmoonnss]

Here

[@TheRedNinja19900]

Hi I'm here

[@aneolentmusic]

mhm

[@Vallavender333]

My personal thoughts are that homelader is a big kid in some ways. A demented, tortured, powerful, sociopathic child. Being a weapon in a cold room from the beginning and nothing resembling a childhood happened. He's chasing comfort and love but can't seem to get it anywhere and throws tantrums. He's losing his parental figures and the rules he used to live under. He can either decide to just continue and use his power to take all the things he's basically already being given for his participation. Or he could learn the importance of other people. I'm not saying he's unresponsible for any of it. But sometimes early situations can teach you things that stop you from learning the basics. He will either tear apart his world trying to find any scap of meaning. Or he'll be able to change and avoid being the villain that needs to be taken down. But either way he's the only one who's going to be able to end his loneliness.

[@looneylunatic.2133]

It's sad because over more than the past decade, i have been watching you. Now without you is like a shock given it's one of the best things i remember from my childhood. Saying that makes me feel ancient myself ❤

[@phaylnx]

The thing about the line of Homelander not having anything to stand on tells you a bit about his flight ability. He has true flight ability, and not the ability to create his own leverage, like Omni-man can.

[@malcolm_mal2055]

But he does that when he slices the plain?

[@jamesgreen9712]

​@@malcolm_mal2055 why would he need leverage to use heat vision

[@RampClosed68]

@@malcolm_mal20551 that was his heat vision 2 if he flew at the plane then it would still break apart. He just could stop the plane safely because if he has nothing to stand on he can’t slow it down if he’s holding on to it. Any other attempts using his physical strength would just further damage the plane

[@bd_local58]

@@RampClosed68 BRO , that wont work , its like putting blades through meat , he'll just destroy the part he's trying to lift the plane from making the survival rate go from 0% to -500%

[@bigjalapeno7061]

Interesting

[@emilianorios4761]

But didn’t homelander say he’s just fine being feared? I mean I prefers being loved but he’ll accept fear also?

[@JCasR3]

True, but living with power by fear leads to insanity. At least in most fiction it does.

[@lunashenck]

@@JCasR3 By the time he goes insane humanity will be extinct

[@JCasR3]

@@lunashenck Then he will be the classic ruler of nothing

[@msmaria5039]

He doesn't care as long as people think of him.

[@gameymcgamer847]

i think he was just lying to scare starlight

[@Dragonlady141]

Please do more theories on the Boys! There is so much to unwrap in this show!

[@davidrichey5319]

His weakness is crowbars

[@FlameFoxen]

Matpat is just creeping closer to insanity each video

[@TheSoviet0nion]

@TROLLSDETAINEDbot

[@TheSoviet0nion]

I know lol

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@Soap_Eater_2024]

Ik

[@AloneSpreeGaming720]

Matpat explains the surface lore of homelander for 15 minutes and comes to the same conclusion they tried and failed to achieve in the show, really said "if we had prep time we'll plan our funeral" 👁️👄👁️

[@user-lk7be2te5o]

Exactly man , I wasted my 15 mins

[@dancesmokesmile344]

2:35 Those seem perfect for Norwegian winters. Honestly, everything in the collection does

[@scrawnytomato6582]

Im using this vid as inspiration for my harvard summer school essay. Wish me luck and thank you for sharing bro🙏🙏

[@apjtv2540]

Omni Man has a few tips you could also try. Feeding him his own heart seemed to work.

[@Jen-hen]

im smarter than matpat my theories are better

[@miyovebilesi2514]

DA Boyz!!

[@OyacATG]

@@PWRGEUTTP go back to your 2nd grade class

[@KyrosnoProductions]

Hello Death Battle fans

[@gostarbloodline]

Death battle reference. Nice

As far as Homelander’s lasers go, he has control over how intense and hot his lasers get. Truly a terrifying thought to have in the back of your head.

[@Jen-hen]

im smarter than matpat my theories are better

[@Jen-hen]

im smarter than matpat my theories are better

[@CRYPT1X_27]

@@TROLLSDETAINED and @Jen-hen please shut up But yeah, very terrifying

[@projekttaku1]

Makes them way more useful tho, like if you want to heat something up instead of just blowing straight through it.

[@nathansquared2685]

Not that you'd want to have his lasers in the back of your head...

[@Ahyanoo-cc4ke]

5:03 for anyone wondering why matpat didnt say why he was distracted its because homelander was doing some weird stuff with one of the female superheroes if you know you know

[@iamlosingmysanityrapidly]

oh my god no

[@lazy_guy_2525]

We will remember you forever matpat

[@Caffeine_Club]

This is definitely one of the most enjoyable shows on television now. Homelander is an S-tier villain. Perfectly acted by Antony Starr. Edit: A to S. He could stand shoulder to shoulder with Thanos and Vader.

[@LokelyConed]

What tv channel is it on? I thought it was an Amazon prime exclusive

[@TheAlphazoneYT]

⁠@@LokelyConedIt is just an Amazon Prime TV Exclusive

[@treasure9342]

Oof not even S💀

[@ashenzenden]

is he a likeable character like a lot of villains or is he just flat out evil and not likeable at all?

[@CorpseMarine]

​@ashenzenden you have to be a very specific person to like homelander. Is is basically pure psychotic evil in the show with no redeeming factors. Every time he is on screen it's tense as you don't know what he is going to do.

[@HammtariProductions]

Matpat took the easy way out on this one, really wanted to see what he would come up with for a PHYSICAL weakness

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

I think the answer is in the other comments and videos comparing him to characters from other settings like Omni-man or the OG Superman. His only physical weakness is the one he shares with all heroes and villains in fiction: Power creep.

[@youraveragejoe2712]

@@Judgement_Kazzy💀💀

[@ACE112ACE112]

Physical weakness, mention of his x-ray vision or an in-depth explanation on how to take down Homelander's brand.

[@grimsbystalker]

@@professionalramenchefYeah and it will erase his powers too

[@surviverplaysuplayer1142]

God i will miss these theories hahaha Hopefully the channels will stay so i can keep playing them in tge background while working

[@skyssleepy]

Can't believe he's leaving. :( Goodbye Matt we will miss you so much

[@Robert53area]

This definitely needs a part 2 because this was more about his powers not about his weakness and how to beat him.

[@_.FashionJunkie]

Exactly

[@AlexMunz-bg3bc]

Yeah maybe Ian can do something there

[@samiakmw3681]

Because he doesn’t have a weakness 💀

[@blackeagle3.55]

You right

[@grandmasteryoda6717]

Now that's never happening since he's retiring.

[@mop.head.studios]

MatPat, not only does Homelander save butcher from the explosion, he also saved the baby that I'm pretty sure was on the OTHER SIDE of the room. He is crazy fast.

[@benjoyce8034]

It was revealed later during season 3, that the baby has teleportation powers

[@mop.head.studios]

@@benjoyce8034 what

[@worples2373]

​@@mop.head.studios Teddy makes a cameo in a supe institution where he's revealed to be able to teleport

[@mop.head.studios]

@@worples2373 oh fr? oh well I had no idea that’s pretty cool, also makes sense that Madelyn would dose her baby up with compound v

[@totallynotmiless]

Actually Teddy teleported

[@tnaxpw]

You can tell that Mat didn't watch the boys close enough, as he would have known that they tried that and he was like "I would go full R and you never go full R"

[@Guizhong_]

MATPAT I WILL MISS YOU T^T, you’ve been apart of millions of childhoods and for that I want to thank you, you’ve been apart of me and my brother’s childhoods for years

[@mattz9268]

Correction to 4:32: that’s an AV-8 Harrier. Empty weight is 14,000lbs. I would measure it by its empty weight because you typically don’t store a plane fueled up with all of its weapons mounted.

[@wanton47]

beat me to it

[@rramrez32ja]

@@wanton47same lol I saw Harrier and heard F16 my brain snapped

[@nicetechtips2629]

Air intakes give it away... And the droopy wings :)

[@tothmatyas2177]

Its a Harrier 2 bc of the roundend nose+ different wings.

[@nyafu_uwu]

when i saw that and heard f16 it got me kinda angry ngl

[@FoxxOrigins]

I'm pretty sure that the plane at 4:32 is not an F-16 but rather an Harrier, which is recognisable at it's rounded air intakes on the sides, where F-16s have a single intake below the cockpit in a smiley shape.

[@kanasimp1]

yea, as a plane enthusiast than irked me

[@26th_Primarch]

​@@kanasimp1same

[@artraudgaming3575]

also the gear

[@richardsears4665]

was gonna say this but you beat me

[@Ichutusioso]

Went to comments to find this, Have my like.

[@kainingyao7873]

Don't forget that Death Battle episode where Homelander got killed off in one of the most violent and graphic ways ever possible by Omni-Man, who absolutely curbstomps him in virtually every possible way imaginable despite all of his sheer power.

[@beansandpizza0375]

New food theory episode idea! "Does a Spoonfull of sugar REALLY help the medicine go down?"

[@maciejnowak3047]

The greatest power of Homelander isn't his ability to destroy everything and everyone, but his insane endurance. if he wasnt literally unkillable, the show would have ended in like 2 episodes

[@hannesromhild8532]

How do you even get that? He's got clearly very low limits. The weight of just three guys was holding him down but he freed himself barely and escaped. in the same fight punches that barely scratch a wall did hurt him. Sorry but Homelander should be toast by just using handheld anti armor weapons from WW2. He would die to kinetic anti armor weapons thats for sure.

[@timmyingelbrecht6977]

In season 1 they do mention the militairy threw everything they had at him to see if they could hurt him and it failed

[@WorldWalker128]

@@hannesromhild8532His powers are linked to 'what the plot needs them to be'. At times he's Evil Superman, and at times he's (strangely) Evil Superwimp.

[@Raven1T2]

@@hannesromhild8532 The three guys who all had v running through them giving them super strength? Yea, watch the show properly next time

[@Raven1T2]

Oh and two of which who had powers equal to homelander, soldier boy being near equal, and butcher having homelanders powers, minus flight.

[@ShaggysMovingPictureBox]

Fun twist on the word “beat”. While he would be beaten politically, his implosion would just help him become the villain in everyone’s eyes while he actually becomes a supervillain, hellbent on destroying everyone else Just my thoughts

[@whatdadogdoin634]

Im also sure this theory means beating what Homelander actually is, not the person itself, everyone hates Homelander as in the concept itself but the person who is Homelander is basically going around killing everyone, so its a win-lose situation, it's like how real world internet personalities get exposed and basically being hated by everyone but just because they hate them doesn't mean the person behind the personality isn't gone off the face of the earth, they're still around doing things and could return as an even worse person than before

[@sarutanku]

I haven't finished, but I think you should add a #4 to that list of Homelanders most iconic powers list Mr Film Theory man 3:23, cause time and time again does the show stop for a character to fearfully say,"Careful! Homelander could probably hear us." And indeed, one of Homelander's other most iconic things is that super hearing that not only lets him eavesdrop on any conversation in his immediate vicinity, no matter the size of the building or the barriers, and that it's also useless to hide if he comes looking for you because he'll hear your heartbeat. Not only that, Homelander talks about how he listens in on people's breathing and heartbeats to be able to tell when they're afraid of him or not during their interactions, or if they're lying.

[@xzguy3826]

10:31 Mat: "HoMeLanDer Is VERy PoWerFul." *Can he beat Goku Tough?*

[@user-Nerd72ekd82kw]

Do pigs fly?

[@SriroopRao]

​@@user-Nerd72ekd82kwas long as people involve goku with random characters *YES*

[@stressmelo3372]

I love this kind of Film Theory. Putting real numbers to movies instead of lore and controversy. Keep doing more of this Mat

[@Gemma-Majoran]

once upon a time matpat didnt chase trends, he just made funny number and science observations on stuff like this nowadays hes targeting the kids trends

[@kieferrea4819]

​@@Gemma-Majoranyeahh it sucks that he does it but it's what works, it's why he was 4 channels with such big subscriber counts

[@V.Poulos]

Sadly I must inform you that I liked this comment when it had 69 likes.

[@Rablisineabbinsine]

@@kieferrea4819Bro what that doesn’t even make any sense, he’s not chasing trends he’s just chasing good theory material.

[@kieferrea4819]

@@Rablisineabbinsine it makes a lot of sense, even if you don't agree

[@user-xr7qy6ub3g]

I don’t think taking down the brand would do anything. There’s a convo between Homelander and Starlight where she threatens to take down his brand and he says “Yes, maybe i will lose everything, but then I’ll have nothing to lose”

[@brendanrisney2449]

I love how it's made very clear just how much control he has over his powers, and still refuses to use that control 90% of the time.

[@woodrobin]

Homelander running for President is a thought, but consider the words of Lex Luthor in Justice League Unlimited: "Do you know how much power I'd have to *give up* to be President?".

[@addzy13]

As other people have said, Homelander losing his brand would be a much WORSE situation for everyone. They deliberately make this a point in the show. If he has nothing to lose, all bets are off.

[@protoxur1258]

I like how the theory channels just care about having fun with their work. It doesn’t always have to be a realistic theory, just something fun to think about

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@skinskinner]

waht

[@slendrio]

What's going on with these goofy ahh bots

[@yeetman9892]

Thanks you for coming up with all thse theories matpat

[@zaynebrown9072]

Thanks for everything Matt

[@Dante-fb9ej]

I find it kind of funny how people are powerscaling Homelander as weak and stuff like that when we haven't even seen ANYTHING from him yet. We don't know the full extent of his powers, especially not in the show. I feel like we'll see some crazy feats in S4.

[@dashfire3185]

Yeah, why push yourself when you don't have to? He could just fool around because to regular people he feels like god

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

He's weak, SoilderBoy and Queen Maeve where able to make him bleed, and they're "naturally" ocurring supes

[@bananageneral5217]

@@jesusramirezromo2037there are no natural Supes. They are all made from compound V

[@legendariflame5304]

@@jesusramirezromo2037 thats like saying omni man and mark are weak because they got beaten by viltrumites that arent descendants of Argoll. Homelander cannot be killed by normal means or anyone below very strong supes in the world.

[@TheOpalHammer]

​@jesusramirezromo2037 Soldierboy is literally invincible and Maeve had trained intensly beforehand. I reckon homelander hasn't done a day of excersize in his life (something that might change next season)

[@matthewstaplers1154]

I'd also like to point out the Death Battle of Homelander vs Omni-Man where they show while Homelander is an impressive hero he's as they put it "A big fish in a small pond" Compared to most other heroes in cinema he's not that tough.

[@legendariflame5304]

Niether are most of the superman parodies

[@cingkrayz1959]

​@PWRGEUTTP no one loves you or anyone else tied to UTTP. As for @matthewstaplers1154, just ignore the UTTP guys. I just needed to vent after seeing at least 50 of these things all over.

[@PurpleStickman]

Homelander stood no chance there

[@flashergoldpower15]

But still, Homelander never stood a chance against Omni man. Not even once

[@carry7871]

If the Novichok nerve agent could impact Soldier boy, his father, then its probably reasonable to assume it would have a similar effect on him

[@mrblahbah2522]

Didn’t homelander once say that he prefers to be loved but it perfectly fine with being feared so even if his brand is destroyed and his true self is revealed according to himself he would be fine with that

[@gigglehurtz3167]

worth noting he not only breaks through normal humans with a punch, he routinely punches through "supes"

[@camwoz5181]

The fact that Homelander can outrun a c4 explosion but GALLOPED and lost to get the middle chair from Stan is extra funny.

[@shellyandjohncourtade8269]

My dear MatPat, that is not an F-16 that Homelander threw, but an AV-8B Harrier II with gross weigh of 22,950 lbs (10,410 kg) or maximum rolling takeoff weigh of 31,000 lbs (14,100 kg). Additionally, the entire surface area of a fist may be ~64 sq inches total, but the striking surface is likely closer to 7.87 sq inches, thus reducing the amount of force needed to punch through someone's chest.

[@Dark_Slayer3000]

When his brand dies, he's probably going on his villain arc and eradicating humanity...

[@AllenTheAnimator004]

Matpat: How to defeat Homelan- Omni Man: Think Matt,think!

[@illusivedestroyer909]

The best part of this series is how the fans always act like they’re part of the universe and act like civilians reacting to the insanity in this show

[@hp6964]

I feel for Homelander in season 2 and 3 more than I did in 1 because he really never had a chance. Growing up thinking he’s alone then Soldier Boy literally talked about how awful his dad was to him, only to end up acting the same way towards Homelander when he met him for the first time. This show is sooo real especially in its portrayals of generational trauma and abuse. I feel like Homelander at least still has a lot of human in him that balances the crazy which is why he cares so much about his son and being a good dad and his social standing. Soldier Boy don’t give af about anything and maybe it’s because he’s from a different time period but him being awful to Homelander made me dislike him more than Homelander 🤷🏼‍♀️. I really feel like Homelander could have had a different path if he wasn’t treated like a feared animal more than a human

[@swissCheese425]

I completely agree with you. The characters of this show are so well written. You can understand where their pain is coming from. The struggle, motivation. Amazing writing.

[@MrMalar.]

Thank u for everything u have done for us over the years . We hope u have a amazing future . Goodbye 👋

[@danieledwards4310]

It feels like they haven't watched the whole show with this one because its a plot point they've already done, trying to control him through his ego but he turns it on them saying he'll just be a villain

[@trd8749]

4:29 sorry to be a nerd, but that doesn't look like an F16, it looks like an AV8B Harrier (famous for its VTOL capability).

[@mon_nobi]

Usually enjoy Film Theory videos but I think this misses the mark a bit. His brand was sort of a weakness at first but he outgrew that as he started to take control of both Vought and his own life, but the change was initiated not by his corporate/PR takeover but by the realization that he has a family bloodline. He literally seized power upon finding out that he was lied to and not actually infertile/impotent, and it just can't get more on the nose than that. So therefore, his real weakness once the brand goes away is his attachments to humanity, specifically a son or father. The father boat may have sailed but yea, his weakness is mostly sorta Ryan now I think.

[@DangericeDreams]

It’s crazy to think how Homelander is so threatening to other characters in universe but would realistically lose to someone like Omni Man.

[@Slayer0fSun]

​@@PWRGEUTTPyou're so smart yet you resort to bait comments to advertise your channel

[@littlekuribohimposte]

It's like they said on Death Battle, Homelander's a big fish in a small pond. Compare him to actual metahumans and he's nothing.

[@user-fd2ce5qo5c]

if Homelander knew how to fight he’d be way more terrifying

[@Gotwired]

Omniman is a beast, though. He could probably solo the MCU and DCEU except for maybe time hax.

[@ViperOnRR]

Yea homelander is a character that's meant to just be a bully and if he ever went up against anyone remotely near him in power he'd be curb stomped bcs he doesn't know how to actually fight

[@abhisheklama1393]

Pretty sure if Homelander did try to “go rogue” like in his threat to Starlight, Vought would easily bring him down. He was almost beaten by just three guys. And two of them were on Temp V which Vought created. Vought could easily outsource Temp V to an elite squad which they possess ample numbers of and the squad would rip Homelander apart.

[@JohnBrett715]

Possibly, but Vought has always been holding the tiger by the tail when it comes to Homelander. Their tactics of keeping him in check (other than strapping a nuke to him) has always been psychology. Of course now with temp v things may be different. Also depends whether they use some of the tactics/plotlines used in the comics

[@San-lh8us]

well, one of these three guys is possibly the second stronger Supe in history, and the entire plan on beating homelander there was to hit him with soldier boy's beam to take away homelander's powers

[@mon_nobi]

Despite all its insane superhero trappings, I feel like this show at its core is actually about family. Homelander's brand/reputation was a weakness at first but he outgrew that as he started to take control of both Vought and his own life, but the catalyst of those changes were the realization that he has a family bloodline. He literally seized power upon finding out that he was lied to and not actually infertile/impotent. He hated being controlled/lied to and so his methods to achieving freedom from control was to control and lie. These methods could eventually alienate Ryan, who is currently his main anchor to his humanity by being a form of psychological redemption as HL desires to be a good dad, so I think that his real weakness, once/if the brand fully goes away, is his attachments to his humanity, specifically things like family and having a son or father or mother figure. Without any other father or mother figures to lean on I think his main weakness will end up being Ryan, and not just as in HL loses Ryan's trust, but as in he comes to blows with his superpowered son, who is powerful enough to melt Stormfront, and essentially the main one who can challenge him both emotionally and physically.

[@Stevepoku]

That would be most realistic and most humiliating end for Homelander. He isn't the real threat, corporations are in this. He's just the tip of the iceberg

[@99Plastics]

the show has one of the worst inuniverse consistent logics

[@tomasrojas5304]

I recommend doing a analysis on "Emesis Blue" next.

[@wartredex1033]

hey mat pat i really love your videos and there so interesting and I love theory wear!!

[@HeisenbergFam]

You know Matt is the true danger when he does guide on defeating Homelander

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@JemarcusTheLamb87]

HEISENBERG! I’ve missed you!

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@jspurg]

Homeland without a brand to care about is vastly more terrifying. I really hope season 6 goes that route cause it could really reinvigorate the series at that point

[@Iotuseater]

Only 5 seasons planned right?

[@RomanticRose111]

Good bye matpat we'll miss you❤️

[@rapidagent4569]

Butcher mentions that this is their (the seven's or any supe with a PR team) weakness in the third episode

[@dosilius2568]

12:46 whoever said these were good examples, It wasn't me. To make it worse, an image of Logan Paul during THAT day.

[@myrandomchanneI]

That’s the point he’s saying that most influencers are bad people

[@dosilius2568]

@@myrandomchanneI ikr

[@regionfuego6]

Is always a bit weird when Mat Pat takes a swing into powerscaling. But is always interesting nonetheless

[@i24kpandamonium26]

Yeah it’s a nice experience

[@GNMmaybe]

I’ll miss him so much I’ve watched all of his videos across all channels he was the only one who could make me laugh so hard I cried goodbye Matpat for now I know we’ll all catch you later

[@dumpy5266]

Just to add onto the part about Homelander's superhuman speed, I also wanna mention that there was a baby in the house as well who would've been caught in the explosion, but was supposedly found 17 miles away. Mention of his powers didn't come up until Season 3 and the report was during Season 2. So on top of saving an average adult man like Butcher, Homelander also saved the more fragile baby.

[@ultragodzillafan]

Minor problem with this theory: If Homelander no longer has his brand, what's to stop him for going on a random killing spree and taking over that way. The only thing that keeps him in check is his desire to be loved by everyone. If he doesn't have that, he becomes much more dangerous.

[@jayb8934]

He's even said as much himself when Starlight threatened to blackmail him. As he says, he'd rather be loved but if that's not an option he'll settle for being feared.

[@lunatpr5594]

Imagine Death Battle's Omni-Man vs Homelander, but with MatPat instead of Omni-Man.

[@projekttaku1]

Its just matpat soundly explaining to homelander how, if he actually decided to do whatever he want, the world's governments would just launch their nukes at him to at least heavily injure and knock him out, then send him in a rocket to the moon.

[@scargamer0022]

​@@projekttaku1 nukes do nothing they already threw a nuke at him while he was a baby

[@thehallway4228]

IDK if this has been mentioned yet, I'm coming in a bit late, but there might be a comic-book precedent for Homelander running for President, not in the Boys itself, but in Superman, where Lex Luthor runs for President and wins. Obviously that doesn't guarantee they'll do this, but the Boys obviously take massive inspiration from mainstream comic book narratives, and the President Luthor story is a popular one.

[@happysadkidz]

there are so many numbers in this episode 💀 i have no idea what most of them really mean, but i appreciate mat trying to explain 😂❤

[@Gears_Starting]

I wonder how effective poison would be. Maybe someone could spike his milk.

[@therenegadegamer7422]

Did matpat forget the scene where homelander threatens starlight saying that he'll just go on a rampage and rule as a dictator claiming that he would prefer to he loved but is also okay with being feared

[@eavocado5890pppj]

yeah, but we know that's not true from the many more scenes that disproved that.

[@derrickhaggard]

@@eavocado5890pppj Exactly Homelander was bluffing when he said that because he knew him and Annie were in a private area to scare her if he said that in public the people would turn on him in a heartbeat.

[@josephwiessner1558]

There have been a few cases of Mat not getting certain details right like saying the Sonic movie was released by Sony when it was actually Paramount

[@charlesmcintosh5994]

Not trying to troll, just pointing out a needed correction. The math for pinching a hole in someone's chest mishandles the units when multiplying. (100 lb/sq-in) X (64 sq-in) = 6400 lb If you want the answer in psi (pressure), the answer would be 100psi. If you want total force, it would be 6400lb.

[@Vader0101]

Love the theory but my theory is Ryan (his son) is his weakness. Hence him trying to gain the trust or love of his son constantly through the episodes. We see in the spicy scene with homelander and Stormfront homelanders heat vision doesn’t cut through stormfronts chest but just burns it. However Ryan cuts through her limbs with ease. This proves the offspring is stronger than the parent. That’s my theory, please leave yours in the reply if you want! :)

[@sevenstarred77]

Sorry but Ryan cannot be his weakness homelander is a narcissist and a sociopath which means he cares for no one but himself. He can pretend he cares for Ryan because it makes him look better and makes him feel good about himself. He likes what he sees in the mirror because he looks like a good father, Do you see where I'm going with this? Homelander lives for homelander❤😂🎉😮

[@Vader0101]

He angers ryan*

[@reubenoakley5887]

0:20 The Boys is not a show about what a world with super heroes would look like. It's a show about what a world with superheroes would look like if a single corporate entity retained a monopoly on those heroes by way of government enforcement (and also everyone was an asshole)

[@Mrtablespoon.]

5:05 yeah “distracted”

[@noamdj301]

new theory about the next harry potter movie harrys child has a piece of voldermorts soul

[@HyphenzaOfficial]

this whole video is just describing what they did in the series. Did Matt actually watch the boys? they literally tried that but didnt go through with it because they were worried about what he was going to do once he had nothing to lose.

[@itcaboi1707]

4:32 Matpat has the jets wrong here. Notice the two intakes and wing landing struts indicating that the jet is in instead a harrier jet not an f16 which has only one intake at the bottom. The American version of the harrier, the AV-8B has an empty weight close to 14000 lbs.

[@tyukogames]

8:45 -Cuts trough the whole jet in 23 frames or 0.96 seconds -Plane used is a british aerospace 125 -Width of a human eye is roughly 2.43cm; Planea have an average of 15.2cm thick hulls. Doubling both if theese numbers because humans have 2 eyes and 2 side of the plane -Typically, planes are made from some combination of titanium, steel, and alluminum, but we are going to calculate assumimg it's alluminum because that's the option with the lowest meltimg point.That would mean we are low balling the strengh of the homelander here. -Melting point of alumiminum is 660 celcius, 1221 fahrenheit. -Also gonna be assuming to be assumimg he is cutting vertically;Difficult to see the exact lenght he cut diagnonally, and i would rather low ball than anything -Height of the exterior of the aerospace 125 is 2.9 meters. -Assuming that the exterior is roughly -40 degrees celcius (as it is flying in high in the sky and that's the higher end of the temp at crushing altitude) -Amout of aluminion melted= (0.0243m*2)*(0.152m*2)*2.9m=115.7 KG of alluminum melted -Alluminum has a specific heat of rougly 902 J/KG*C This means that it takes 902 jouls per killogram to raise the temperature of alluminum by 1 degree celcius -That means, just this lowball back of the napkin math number is 73,052,980 joules to cut trough this plane and he did this in less than a second.That's roughly 20.3KWH No need to thank me

[@kingstonlovely7404]

**MALFUNCTION, CANT COMPUTE**

[@F-22.]

My systems can't even comprehend what this means

[@Hazeshade]

Thank you ao much matt you built our childhoods and we wont forget it

[@MrSeabass57]

Matpat will be missed ❤🫡

[@Spidoc]

they have discussed multiple times in the show how killing his reputation would only make him a bigger threat because now he has no reason to not go on a rampage

[@shayaankhusro4104]

The theory I'm interested in is how come the temp Compound V gave Butch and Hughie the exact counters for the heroes they have grudge against?

[@littledudefromacrossthestr5755]

?

[@KeaveMind]

Hughie did not have super speed? He could teleport. I think temp v just powers up your personal source of power. For butcher it's hate, so he got the laser eyes and for Hughes it's fear or something, cause he's more the get outta there type

[@razorsharp1371]

Butcher and homeowner are actually incredibly similar people, I think that their powers work the same is a narrative choice to show that they're the same.

[@midnight_marshadow]

​@KeaveMind he said they were counters for the heroes they hate, the only real counter to super speed would be teleportation.

[@crazagres1839]

@@midnight_marshadow Or super speed of your own. Or any sufficient AOE power. Teleportation isn't even a good counter since it'll just stall and not win. Might not even be able to stall if the speedster is strong.