Film Theory: How to BEAT Homelander (The Boys)

[@TwistedIrish1]

They already tried this in the show and homelander told them he'd rather be loved then feared but if they ruin his reputation he has no problem being feared because he has nothing left to lose at that point. So I don't think it's his greatest weakness anymore....

[@benwagner5089]

At best, it might be a way to try to control him. Make his PR team into a bunch of fatalist "we're all going to die anyway" types who wouldn't be afraid of telling the world about the man behind the image. He still wants to be loved though he'd settle for being feared, and they'll give him the adoration platform he wants if he sticks to the script they lay down for him.

[@Raderade1-pt3om]

Maybe it was show foreshadowing what to come, homelande loses everything and everyone goes after him to take him down before he destroys everything. Sigh

[@AmigoFriendHabibi]

Reminds me of a bronx tale would u rather be loved or feared

[@Trainerlynx]

I was gonna point that out too lol, if they ruin his reputation, he probably couldn't be stopped because he has nothing left to lose anyway

[@braziliancyborg4249]

It could be interpreted as him bluffing for intimidation, he isn't that cool with that thought as he sounded probably

[@diddyjohn6872]

I loved the theory but as other people have pointed out once Homelander's brand is ruined there's nothing holding him back. As Homelander said "sure I'll lose everything, but then I'll have nothing to lose"

[@VolkerAlmighty]

my exact thoughts

[@GazBC4U]

Milk.

[@derpyderp6719]

Bread.

[@Marveryn]

right, he will go scorch earth.

[@mggardiner4066]

Yes his brand has also been tied to his weakness (severe psychological problems/narcissisism). His emotional and mental weakness and craving for adoration and love has been consistently the only thing short of tricking him that the protagonists and other villains have been able to exploit prior to S3

[@mjb2697]

For the first time in a while, Pat missed. This theory was addressed in the show with Starlight trying to blackmail Homelander, who simply stated that he'd take power by force and wipe out entire cities if he must. So this is definitely NOT the way they're gonna have to bring Homelander down.

[@Sabitar1]

They also recently missed on the GTA VI trailer video where they claimed Michael was in witness protection lol

[@WackMaDino]

This is just kinda like a filler theory where he goes over a bunch of random stuff and tries to loop them together for a clickable video, it’s nothing new really he sorta has to put these out until the time comes for a bigger theory. Even still, the power scaling stuff in the first half of the video was good, I think he should do more stuff like that because he doesn’t really have to consider the wider context and story of the show to do fun calculations of how far man throw thing.

[@xxcombatbasher001xx]

Honestly not the first time in a while. Feels like the theory channels have been on a downward trend with gta vi being a painful example.

[@WackMaDino]

@@xxcombatbasher001xx i still dont even know what people found so bad about that theory aside from the one line about witness protection, it seemed pretty standard

[@ジハ-u5k]

What else did he theorize thats just already been proven false? I remember the genshin video being one lololol. I think I've heard of another but im not sure, was it a video on vikings? His team is known to make extensive research so they dont make any mistakes but i wonder how many times theyve messed up​@@xxcombatbasher001xx

[@davidrichey5319]

His weakness is crowbars

[@devmag52]

Someone read the comic

[@GAT957]

his weaknesses is lasering a mirror

[@cawsomeaolin]

@@GAT957he does it to shaves his pubes

[@xtato]

thats noir

[@jamesmorrison6204]

His weakness is milk

[@burp3322]

the biggest issue with this is, they address this in the show, starlight tries to blackmail homelander, destroy his brand, but he just shrugs it off, explaining that while he loves his brand, he would just be fine with taking control back by force, describing how hed destroy the world

[@GigaLigma]

He doesn't just say that he'd be "fine with it," he goes so far as to say he's being held back by his reputation and that without it he'd have no reason to keep pretending to be a good guy. Almost implies part of him WANTS something to happen to his reputation so he doesn't have to behave anymore.

[@squiggur6258]

yea this is not a theory he’s basically just summarizing the show

[@sibsart2039]

Ya, he says something like “if you destroy my image then I don’t need to hold back anymore”

[@eavocado5890pppj]

@@GigaLigma ....but we know that's not true; he is clearly shown to care the most about his image and approval, and he literally has mommy issues.

[@homerman76]

​@@eavocado5890pppj It makes you wonder if he's actually just maintaining false bravado so people DON'T go after the one thing he really cares about 🤔

[@tinywow344]

What I find interesting is that if you were to destroy homelanders brand, he would actually go farther off the deep end than he already has. In the show he said that if they destroyed his brand that he’d have nothing left to lose (or something like that) so it would open up a whole new problem for the show with him just being a flat out supervillain. Interesting as always matpat ❤

[@adhamsherif6230]

yea it was stated that the only thing holding homelander from killing everyone and everything is his narcissism and his need for consistent attention

[@alexties6933]

The thing about having nothing left to loose is that you have lost everything lol

[@ViperOnRR]

"Sure I'll lose everything, but then I'll have nothing to lose" is his exact phrasing

[@djzombie5117]

and that little quote kinda brings down the whole theory @@ViperOnRR

[@100daystopass]

I was about to say that…..

[@InevitableMayo]

Big problem with the theory. Homelander has even said himself that if he goes down, he'll take the world with him. Unless you're killing him, you can't beat him.

[@rapidagent4569]

Whats stopping them (aside from like capturing and stuff) from pulling another translucent.

[@dautolover]

It's also entirely possible that he was bluffing solely to prevent Starlight from releasing the tape. It was quite an easy bluff to pull off, considering Starlight legitimately cares about humanity.

[@InevitableMayo]

@@dautolover To be fair there is that. He's so powerful, beyond what anyone actually realises, nobody knows what he's capable of. So when he says he'll destroy the world, he may not actually be capable. But the others don't know that

[@xzeuii]

Also: Same thing happened in the comics. Rep ruined, so he gathered as many supes as he could, killed the president, and took over the country.

[@MrSpartan993]

He NEEDS to die anyway.

[@ItzRetz]

So close! Homelander didn't become the President himself, but he did install a puppet president, so he essentially is the president now I guess.

[@ItzRetz]

@@MightbeThatoreo The 4th season only just concluded, and this video is literally about the 4th season. The only insane thing here is you thinking you had a point with your comment.

[@ItzRetz]

​@@MightbeThatoreo They really don't.

[@MightbeThatoreo]

@@ItzRetz What puppet president? Neuman? Neumen is literally dead.

[@Rebelhomer222]

​@@MightbeThatoreoYeah, you lost this one buddy

[@okg4515]

@@MightbeThatoreou lost this one buddy

[@jayb8934]

This "weakness" is addressed in the show when Starlight threatens to blackmail him. As Homelander himself says (something to the effect of), "I'd rather be loved, but I'll settle for being feared." The fact that he cares about his reputation is the only thing that keeps him in check, but that can only be exploited so far. If he loses that, he would likely just go on a rampage. So robbing him of the adoration that he craves would actually be the worst thing you could do.

[@ZerpFor]

He's now praised for who he is. He has nothing to fear anymore

[@CHRF-55457]

From superhero to supervillain

[@panman4459]

Theory idea: You should make a Duolingo theory where you analyse the lore of the characters off of the stories in the app.

[@mon_nobi]

His brand/reputation was a weakness at first but yes he outgrew that as he started to take control of both Vought and his own life, but the change was initiated not by a spontaneous corporate/PR takeover but by the realization that he has a family bloodline. He literally seized power upon finding out that he was lied to and not actually infertile/impotent. So therefore, his real weakness once the brand goes away is his attachments to his humanity, specifically things like family, having a son or father or mother figure. The father & mother figure boats may have sailed so it seems now that his main weakness will be Ryan, and I mean that not just as in he loses Ryan's trust, but as in he comes to blows with his superpowered son, strong enough to melt Stormfront, and essentially the main one who can challenge him both emotionally and physically.

[@BARelement]

You could also not give him the power, and just be like Stan Edgar. The reason I say this is many human beings have had to do that in doomed situations like G-Ocide, etc. Not giving him your emotions would eat him alive gene he’s all by himself.

[@NANOTECHYT]

The actual way to beat Homelander is probably a supe like Mindstorm. Homelander might be physically strong, but his mind is clearly a weak point and just putting him in a constant nightmare seems like a sure fire way to defeat him. From there you can send him into the vacuum of space towards the Sun to perish.

[@asiamarill]

that was i thinking too when i watched that episode. Homelander can hear heartbeat and sense body temperature,that would be difficult. I mean the supe who can explode heads could take him out easily too,but she needs him for her own plans

[@GROMOVNIK05]

​@@asiamarillshe cant, she tried it on starlight but she only got a bit of a nosebleed, remember the scene after she exploded bunch of peoples heads? Homelander is strong enough to negate her power completly given that he is much stronger than starlight

[@megkrish7568]

Someone with both telekinetic and telepathic abilities would be able to beat him for sure. If they introduce someone like Jean Grey or Scarlet witch that would do the trick

[@shivamjha5578]

Nah , mindstorm could only stun sb for a few seconds and home lander is a far stronger supe so its not possible

[@NANOTECHYT]

​@@shivamjha5578 It hasn't been shown that Mindstorm couldn't do it in his younger age. As Mindstorm got older, he could not manipulate other supes, only regular humans as his powers became less potent. However, when his powers were at their apex in his prime at a young age, he probably could, especially with how mentally unbalanced Homelander is. The fact that Soldier Boy was afraid of Mindstorm's powers, still tells you that he remembers his younger self being a threat to him personally. We also saw in Gen V that Cate could trap other supes in her mind, so again a supe like Mindstorm or Cate has a very real possibility of at least knocking Homelander out for a while, maybe long enough for another supe to either take away his powers like Soldier Boy can by blasting the Compound V out of him or by pushing him toward the sun out into the vacuum of space as Homelander still has to breathe and likely can't fly in space.

[@Conceptual69a]

"able to grab an f-16 fighter jet": shows a McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II

[@weirdyadav]

THANK YOU I WAS SO MAD AT THIS FOR NO REASON! GLAD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED!!!

[@big_pb]

Blah blah blah

[@Conceptual69a]

@@big_pb Nuh uh

[@yoinkthewolf5981]

dude I noticed that and was like "wait thats not an F-16"

[@dieflasche2821]

Thank you!

[@FlameFoxen]

Matpat is just creeping closer to insanity each video

[@TheSoviet0nion]

@TROLLSDETAINEDbot

[@TheSoviet0nion]

I know lol

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@DYXAnims]

Ik

[@phaylnx]

The thing about the line of Homelander not having anything to stand on tells you a bit about his flight ability. He has true flight ability, and not the ability to create his own leverage, like Omni-man can.

[@malcolm_mal2055]

But he does that when he slices the plain?

[@jamesgreen9712]

​@@malcolm_mal2055 why would he need leverage to use heat vision

[@RampClosed68]

@@malcolm_mal20551 that was his heat vision 2 if he flew at the plane then it would still break apart. He just could stop the plane safely because if he has nothing to stand on he can’t slow it down if he’s holding on to it. Any other attempts using his physical strength would just further damage the plane

[@bd_local58]

@@RampClosed68 BRO , that wont work , its like putting blades through meat , he'll just destroy the part he's trying to lift the plane from making the survival rate go from 0% to -500%

[@bigjalapeno7061]

Interesting

[@recordedanemone6399]

Homelander deadass one of the best written villains in cinema history. He's so unnervingly twisted it always makes for a great scene wherever he is.

[@cubebutpro298]

​Matpat should make a film theory on you​@PWRGEUTTP

[@ViperOnRR]

Antony Starr's performance is incredible he just injects pure tension into every scene

[@BarcaFan1899]

⁠@@ViperOnRRI love that in a cast interview when they were asked which of them is most like their character everyone with no hesitation points to Antony

[@NikkiBudders]

And due credit to his actor, my god that man can scare me with just a look. 12/10

[@manuelk1853]

And he is funny in a dark way

[@mp4461]

the fact you said he'd run for president is insane beacuse as of s4 ep8, he's practically the presidents right hand man

[@Klarpimier]

The president is his right hand man

[@mp4461]

unofficially, yh, offically, no. can’t wait for S5

As far as Homelander’s lasers go, he has control over how intense and hot his lasers get. Truly a terrifying thought to have in the back of your head.

[@Jen-hen]

im smarter than matpat my theories are better

[@Jen-hen]

im smarter than matpat my theories are better

[@CRYPT1X_27]

@TROLLSDETAINED and @Jen-hen please shut up But yeah, very terrifying

[@ProjektTaku]

Makes them way more useful tho, like if you want to heat something up instead of just blowing straight through it.

[@nathansquared2685]

Not that you'd want to have his lasers in the back of your head...

[@Ife-jw7ei]

his weakness is that he hasn’t fought anyone that’s a challenge for him so he won’t get any better

[@christianmcbrearty]

He doesn't need to. He's already the best 😂

[@ytyoungrichnhigh]

@@christianmcbrearty ... Until someone better than him comes about

[@cawsomeaolin]

that’s why he misses stan edgar and needs sage because they’re actually challenges to him instead of yes men

[@ItzLuckzz]

He fought soldier boy?

[@em4six348]

use punctuation ngsa

[@apjtv2540]

Omni Man has a few tips you could also try. Feeding him his own heart seemed to work.

[@Jen-hen]

im smarter than matpat my theories are better

[@miyovebilesi2514]

DA Boyz!!

[@OyacATG]

@PWRGEUTTP go back to your 2nd grade class

[@KyrosnoProductions]

Hello Death Battle fans

[@gostarbloodline]

Death battle reference. Nice

[@bizarre5559]

wow. he literally predicted it. the season 4 finale had homelander becoming the president

[@lukeyinga4112]

i know right 💀

[@hayzinthehouse2744]

The presidents right hand man, not the president himself

[@NikoboiNFTB]

@@hayzinthehouse2744 He's not the presidents right hand man, the president is Homelanders puppet

[@hayzinthehouse2744]

@@NikoboiNFTB yeah true tbf

[@josuen1818]

@@hayzinthehouse2744what is tbf

[@craftmaster343]

He has already said he would go "scorched earth" if people began to hate him as at that point he'd have nothing to lose. However a small point mentioned in the show is that Zinc is apparently the one and only thing that he cannot use his x-ray vision to see through. This is the only "weakness" he's been confirmed to have.

[@tominieminen66]

I was thinking about super hearing + loud noise but he shrugged off an explosion noise like nothing

[@arthurmartin4616]

@@tominieminen66 Maybe if there was a way to sustain that kind of noise level? Because an explosion doesn't really last that long.

[@tominieminen66]

@@arthurmartin4616 Ehh... explosion that close should definitely do the trick, he at least seemed completely unfazed Of course extended noise would be way worse, but he should have shown at least some effect to make this his weakness

[@jonny-b4954]

​@arthurmartin4616 Well, it was the sonic noise things Butcher used as a distraction. That annoyed him, but he could still function

[@RyanKarolak]

Right. I think without a way to stop him physically or disable him, turning the world against Homelander may eventually lead to his downfall but there is a high risk of it being a pyrrhic victory as Homelander would cause so much destruction in the process.

[@emilianorios4761]

But didn’t homelander say he’s just fine being feared? I mean I prefers being loved but he’ll accept fear also?

[@JCasR3]

True, but living with power by fear leads to insanity. At least in most fiction it does.

[@lunashenck]

@@JCasR3 By the time he goes insane humanity will be extinct

[@JCasR3]

@@lunashenck Then he will be the classic ruler of nothing

[@msmaria5039]

He doesn't care as long as people think of him.

[@gameymcgamer847]

i think he was just lying to scare starlight

[@HammtariProductions]

Matpat took the easy way out on this one, really wanted to see what he would come up with for a PHYSICAL weakness

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

I think the answer is in the other comments and videos comparing him to characters from other settings like Omni-man or the OG Superman. His only physical weakness is the one he shares with all heroes and villains in fiction: Power creep.

[@youraveragejoe2712]

@@Judgement_Kazzy💀💀

[@ACE112ACE112]

Physical weakness, mention of his x-ray vision or an in-depth explanation on how to take down Homelander's brand.

[@grimsbystalker]

@@professionalramenchefYeah and it will erase his powers too

[@josephwerner2935]

Honestly i think you can tell his weaknesses by using soldier boy as reference since hes the only person with comparable power. There are a few psychic characters in the boys, one of which was able to disarm soldier boy, And two soldier boy needed oxygen to breathe, so he was prone to suffocation. Assuming that those would work on homelander you could in theory defeated him by filling a room with carbon dioxide while hes distracted (assumimg you found a way to deal with his super hearing and xray vison) Or you could gather a bunch of sups with psychic powers, have a few with super strength or similar powers to help hold him down briefly, and then scramble his brain/make him fly himself into the sun.

[@navichahal64]

Bro is telling the future 14:20 the president homelander

[@Caffeine_Club]

This is definitely one of the most enjoyable shows on television now. Homelander is an S-tier villain. Perfectly acted by Antony Starr. Edit: A to S. He could stand shoulder to shoulder with Thanos and Vader.

[@LokelyConed]

What tv channel is it on? I thought it was an Amazon prime exclusive

[@TheAlphazoneYT]

⁠@@LokelyConedIt is just an Amazon Prime TV Exclusive

[@Accountthatexists]

Oof not even S💀

[@ashenzenden]

is he a likeable character like a lot of villains or is he just flat out evil and not likeable at all?

[@CorpseMarine]

​@ashenzenden you have to be a very specific person to like homelander. Is is basically pure psychotic evil in the show with no redeeming factors. Every time he is on screen it's tense as you don't know what he is going to do.

[@Robert53area]

This definitely needs a part 2 because this was more about his powers not about his weakness and how to beat him.

[@_.FashionJunkie]

Exactly

[@AlexMunz-bg3bc]

Yeah maybe Ian can do something there

[@samiakmw3681]

Because he doesn’t have a weakness 💀

[@blackeagle3.55]

You right

[@grandmasteryoda6717]

Now that's never happening since he's retiring.

[@FeetSnifffer]

Matpat explains the surface lore of homelander for 15 minutes and comes to the same conclusion they tried and failed to achieve in the show, really said "if we had prep time we'll plan our funeral" 👁️👄👁️

[@SkiJacques]

Exactly man , I wasted my 15 mins

[@RealJavierEscuella]

I thought he was back but then it was a old video 💀

[@docco0770]

Me too bro

[@syra1541]

fr 😭

[@mop.head.studios]

MatPat, not only does Homelander save butcher from the explosion, he also saved the baby that I'm pretty sure was on the OTHER SIDE of the room. He is crazy fast.

[@benjoyce8034]

It was revealed later during season 3, that the baby has teleportation powers

[@mop.head.studios]

@@benjoyce8034 what

[@worples2373]

​@@mop.head.studios Teddy makes a cameo in a supe institution where he's revealed to be able to teleport

[@mop.head.studios]

@@worples2373 oh fr? oh well I had no idea that’s pretty cool, also makes sense that Madelyn would dose her baby up with compound v

[@totallynotmiless]

Actually Teddy teleported

[@Vallavender333]

My personal thoughts are that homelader is a big kid in some ways. A demented, tortured, powerful, sociopathic child. Being a weapon in a cold room from the beginning and nothing resembling a childhood happened. He's chasing comfort and love but can't seem to get it anywhere and throws tantrums. He's losing his parental figures and the rules he used to live under. He can either decide to just continue and use his power to take all the things he's basically already being given for his participation. Or he could learn the importance of other people. I'm not saying he's unresponsible for any of it. But sometimes early situations can teach you things that stop you from learning the basics. He will either tear apart his world trying to find any scap of meaning. Or he'll be able to change and avoid being the villain that needs to be taken down. But either way he's the only one who's going to be able to end his loneliness.

[@cawsomeaolin]

yes

[@BreadedSandwich]

Big manbaby

[@MartinFinnerup]

​@@BreadedSandwich I mean, that's the entire point of the character. He's a whiney crybaby of a human, and the show shows what happens when someone like that is given immense power.

[@BreadedSandwich]

@@MartinFinnerup Yeah, I completely agree.

[@purplexus]

I think the scariest part about Homelander is how many people didn’t realize he was satire and are rooting for his redemption arc.

[@trumpwonBIGLY]

no

[@ACE112ACE112]

rooting for a fictional character dictate someone's iemrl feelings necessarily

[@keshi5541]

He sort of gets a redemption arc in the comics. Until he gets killed by his own clone.

[@redblue5140]

yeah the show is not serious stuff like that isnt going to happen. its a satirical show its not a drama

[@LoveyDovyy]

i’d be nice to see him better himself

[@theratmouse]

Bro was so close to predicting he would run for president

[@maciejnowak3047]

The greatest power of Homelander isn't his ability to destroy everything and everyone, but his insane endurance. if he wasnt literally unkillable, the show would have ended in like 2 episodes

[@hannesromhild8532]

How do you even get that? He's got clearly very low limits. The weight of just three guys was holding him down but he freed himself barely and escaped. in the same fight punches that barely scratch a wall did hurt him. Sorry but Homelander should be toast by just using handheld anti armor weapons from WW2. He would die to kinetic anti armor weapons thats for sure.

[@timmyingelbrecht6977]

In season 1 they do mention the militairy threw everything they had at him to see if they could hurt him and it failed

[@WorldWalker128]

@@hannesromhild8532His powers are linked to 'what the plot needs them to be'. At times he's Evil Superman, and at times he's (strangely) Evil Superwimp.

[@Raven1T2]

@@hannesromhild8532 The three guys who all had v running through them giving them super strength? Yea, watch the show properly next time

[@Raven1T2]

Oh and two of which who had powers equal to homelander, soldier boy being near equal, and butcher having homelanders powers, minus flight.

[@ShaggysMovingPictureBox]

Fun twist on the word “beat”. While he would be beaten politically, his implosion would just help him become the villain in everyone’s eyes while he actually becomes a supervillain, hellbent on destroying everyone else Just my thoughts

[@whatdadogdoin634]

Im also sure this theory means beating what Homelander actually is, not the person itself, everyone hates Homelander as in the concept itself but the person who is Homelander is basically going around killing everyone, so its a win-lose situation, it's like how real world internet personalities get exposed and basically being hated by everyone but just because they hate them doesn't mean the person behind the personality isn't gone off the face of the earth, they're still around doing things and could return as an even worse person than before

[@CalebNewberry-c8l]

I don’t think taking down the brand would do anything. There’s a convo between Homelander and Starlight where she threatens to take down his brand and he says “Yes, maybe i will lose everything, but then I’ll have nothing to lose”

[@marcostratta147]

He pretty much called the president thing

[@mattz9268]

Correction to 4:32: that’s an AV-8 Harrier. Empty weight is 14,000lbs. I would measure it by its empty weight because you typically don’t store a plane fueled up with all of its weapons mounted.

[@wanton47]

beat me to it

[@rramrez32ja]

@@wanton47same lol I saw Harrier and heard F16 my brain snapped

[@nicetechtips2629]

Air intakes give it away... And the droopy wings :)

[@tothmatyas2177]

Its a Harrier 2 bc of the roundend nose+ different wings.

[@nyafu_uwu]

when i saw that and heard f16 it got me kinda angry ngl

[@FoxxOrigins]

I'm pretty sure that the plane at 4:32 is not an F-16 but rather an Harrier, which is recognisable at it's rounded air intakes on the sides, where F-16s have a single intake below the cockpit in a smiley shape.

[@kanasimp1]

yea, as a plane enthusiast than irked me

[@26th_Primarch]

​@@kanasimp1same

[@artraudgaming3575]

also the gear

[@richardsears4665]

was gonna say this but you beat me

[@Ichutusioso]

Went to comments to find this, Have my like.

[@kieferrea4819]

He...he actually got it right. I didnt take him seriously but my god, he was right...

[@beastboy1712]

bro did you even watch the show? Pat wasn't right. If anything, this theory is terrible because it's just him listing Homelander's powers. I would be more satisfied if MatPat said that he would use Radiation or Nukes or toss him into lava. But saying that by canceling him makes him weak? As Homelander said himself at the end of ss3: "I'd prefer to be loved, I would. But if you take that away from me, then well, being feared is a-one okie doke by me"

[@kieferrea4819]

@beastboy1712 did you watch the video? The video predicted homelander would run for the president of the united states so he would have total control. and the final episode shows him becoming the president. Or more accurately the real one pledged his allegiance to do anything homelander said. You wrote an entire essay when you didn't even know what I was talking about, Jesus christ dude sit down

[@NartSadiku-ws4ow]

@@kieferrea4819Qa i the 🫢

[@beastboy1712]

@@kieferrea4819 Nobody can understand what you talked about from your first comment dude. And clearly Homelander isn't dead or beaten in any way (yet). So again, how to beat the guy? See my point?

[@robyfaraa4105]

@@kieferrea4819 he may have been right about that but his massive chunk of the video is a miss

[@stressmelo3372]

I love this kind of Film Theory. Putting real numbers to movies instead of lore and controversy. Keep doing more of this Mat

[@Gemma-Majoran]

once upon a time matpat didnt chase trends, he just made funny number and science observations on stuff like this nowadays hes targeting the kids trends

[@kieferrea4819]

​@@Gemma-Majoranyeahh it sucks that he does it but it's what works, it's why he was 4 channels with such big subscriber counts

[@V.Poulos]

Sadly I must inform you that I liked this comment when it had 69 likes.

[@kieferrea4819]

@Rablisineabbinsine it makes a lot of sense, even if you don't agree

[@nachgeben]

I think you all don't actually get what theories mean in this context. Hard facts almost never go into it. It's not just him. It's the hobby.

[@addzy13]

As other people have said, Homelander losing his brand would be a much WORSE situation for everyone. They deliberately make this a point in the show. If he has nothing to lose, all bets are off.

[@gigglehurtz3167]

worth noting he not only breaks through normal humans with a punch, he routinely punches through "supes"

[@PowerKnowing]

That comparison between Homelander and MrBeast is becoming more accurate by the day💀

[@protoxur1258]

I like how the theory channels just care about having fun with their work. It doesn’t always have to be a realistic theory, just something fun to think about

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@skinskinner]

waht

[@slendrio]

What's going on with these goofy ahh bots

[@illusivedestroyer909]

The best part of this series is how the fans always act like they’re part of the universe and act like civilians reacting to the insanity in this show

[@matthewstaplers1154]

I'd also like to point out the Death Battle of Homelander vs Omni-Man where they show while Homelander is an impressive hero he's as they put it "A big fish in a small pond" Compared to most other heroes in cinema he's not that tough.

[@legendariflame5304]

Niether are most of the superman parodies

[@cingkrayz1959]

​@PWRGEUTTP no one loves you or anyone else tied to UTTP. As for @matthewstaplers1154, just ignore the UTTP guys. I just needed to vent after seeing at least 50 of these things all over.

[@PurpleStickman]

Homelander stood no chance there

[@flashergoldpower15]

But still, Homelander never stood a chance against Omni man. Not even once

[@Thebusinessllama4820]

14:11 "i believe Homelander is going to run for president " well not exactly run for president

[@camwoz5181]

The fact that Homelander can outrun a c4 explosion but GALLOPED and lost to get the middle chair from Stan is extra funny.

[@HeisenbergFam]

You know Matt is the true danger when he does guide on defeating Homelander

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@JemarcusTheLamb87]

HEISENBERG! I’ve missed you!

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@stuartclarke2988]

IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER

[@Dante-fb9ej]

I find it kind of funny how people are powerscaling Homelander as weak and stuff like that when we haven't even seen ANYTHING from him yet. We don't know the full extent of his powers, especially not in the show. I feel like we'll see some crazy feats in S4.

[@dashfire3185]

Yeah, why push yourself when you don't have to? He could just fool around because to regular people he feels like god

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

He's weak, SoilderBoy and Queen Maeve where able to make him bleed, and they're "naturally" ocurring supes

[@bananageneral5217]

@@jesusramirezromo2037there are no natural Supes. They are all made from compound V

[@legendariflame5304]

@@jesusramirezromo2037 thats like saying omni man and mark are weak because they got beaten by viltrumites that arent descendants of Argoll. Homelander cannot be killed by normal means or anyone below very strong supes in the world.

[@TheOpalHammer]

​@jesusramirezromo2037 Soldierboy is literally invincible and Maeve had trained intensly beforehand. I reckon homelander hasn't done a day of excersize in his life (something that might change next season)

[@LooneyLunatic21]

It's sad because over more than the past decade, i have been watching you. Now without you is like a shock given it's one of the best things i remember from my childhood. Saying that makes me feel ancient myself ❤

[@AllenTheAnimator004]

Matpat: How to defeat Homelan- Omni Man: Think Matt,think!

[@danieledwards4310]

It feels like they haven't watched the whole show with this one because its a plot point they've already done, trying to control him through his ego but he turns it on them saying he'll just be a villain

[@mariov3515]

Even with all that power Omni-man would absolutely decimate him, as stated by the creators of both shows. So imagine how powerful Omni-man is, even without lasers.

[@LoveyDovyy]

we’ve already established that Omni-Man is way stronger

[@V01D_ANGEL]

@@LoveyDovyyyeah, it’s also really boring to compare them because they are simply on different levels and stories. I’m not sure why everyone spends so much time talking about this. Omni Man would win(duh). There is nothing more to it.

[@chaoticdetectivepeach]

@@V01D_ANGEL Mostly cuz Homelander is an annoying little prat, and it's fun to see him get absolutely dunked on, which tbh actually showcases how good the actor is at portraying him, cuz if they annoy you that much, it means the actor is really really good.

[@daymenpollet4202]

cap, people letterly underrastimate homelander all the time and it's a dumb thing to say.

[@HatredPrime]

Plutonian would decimate all of them.

[@kinggoku4847]

saw the season 5 finale and came back to this, it wasnt in season 2 but homelander now has the president working for him, so matpat wasnt actually that far off

[@chrisp_312]

SEASON 5!? 😱😱😱

[@safcjoe7062]

​@@chrisp_312bro is from the future💀

[@NaudVanDalen]

Bro is living in 2026.

[@sxvxgx5891]

Dawg watching season 5 before it dropped

[@hashtagjah]

yo send link to season 5 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@abhisheklama1393]

Pretty sure if Homelander did try to “go rogue” like in his threat to Starlight, Vought would easily bring him down. He was almost beaten by just three guys. And two of them were on Temp V which Vought created. Vought could easily outsource Temp V to an elite squad which they possess ample numbers of and the squad would rip Homelander apart.

[@JohnBrett715]

Possibly, but Vought has always been holding the tiger by the tail when it comes to Homelander. Their tactics of keeping him in check (other than strapping a nuke to him) has always been psychology. Of course now with temp v things may be different. Also depends whether they use some of the tactics/plotlines used in the comics

[@San-lh8us]

well, one of these three guys is possibly the second stronger Supe in history, and the entire plan on beating homelander there was to hit him with soldier boy's beam to take away homelander's powers

[@mon_nobi]

Despite all its insane superhero trappings, I feel like this show at its core is actually about family. Homelander's brand/reputation was a weakness at first but he outgrew that as he started to take control of both Vought and his own life, but the catalyst of those changes were the realization that he has a family bloodline. He literally seized power upon finding out that he was lied to and not actually infertile/impotent. He hated being controlled/lied to and so his methods to achieving freedom from control was to control and lie. These methods could eventually alienate Ryan, who is currently his main anchor to his humanity by being a form of psychological redemption as HL desires to be a good dad, so I think that his real weakness, once/if the brand fully goes away, is his attachments to his humanity, specifically things like family and having a son or father or mother figure. Without any other father or mother figures to lean on I think his main weakness will end up being Ryan, and not just as in HL loses Ryan's trust, but as in he comes to blows with his superpowered son, who is powerful enough to melt Stormfront, and essentially the main one who can challenge him both emotionally and physically.

[@Stevepoku]

That would be most realistic and most humiliating end for Homelander. He isn't the real threat, corporations are in this. He's just the tip of the iceberg

[@99Plastics]

the show has one of the worst inuniverse consistent logics

[@jspurg]

Homeland without a brand to care about is vastly more terrifying. I really hope season 6 goes that route cause it could really reinvigorate the series at that point

[@Iotuseater]

Only 5 seasons planned right?

[@WinC119]

12:46 whoever said these were good examples, It wasn't me. To make it worse, an image of Logan Paul during THAT day.

[@UraniumFever3]

That’s the point he’s saying that most influencers are bad people

[@WinC119]

@@UraniumFever3 ikr

[@MrSu5]

I think there's someone hanging right there

[@daveiscool24]

4:57 When the crying child in fnaf 4 gets bit my fredbear, it must have crushed his skull. This means that Fredbear has an insanely powerful jaw.

[@Thatrandomkidgames]

Pretty sure MatPat used this theory a long time ago

[@regionfuego6]

Is always a bit weird when Mat Pat takes a swing into powerscaling. But is always interesting nonetheless

[@i24kpandamonium26]

Yeah it’s a nice experience

[@therenegadegamer7422]

Did matpat forget the scene where homelander threatens starlight saying that he'll just go on a rampage and rule as a dictator claiming that he would prefer to he loved but is also okay with being feared

[@eavocado5890pppj]

yeah, but we know that's not true from the many more scenes that disproved that.

[@derrickhaggard]

@@eavocado5890pppj Exactly Homelander was bluffing when he said that because he knew him and Annie were in a private area to scare her if he said that in public the people would turn on him in a heartbeat.

[@josephwiessner1558]

There have been a few cases of Mat not getting certain details right like saying the Sonic movie was released by Sony when it was actually Paramount

[@itcaboi1707]

4:32 Matpat has the jets wrong here. Notice the two intakes and wing landing struts indicating that the jet is in instead a harrier jet not an f16 which has only one intake at the bottom. The American version of the harrier, the AV-8B has an empty weight close to 14000 lbs.

[@bnecrusher3993]

11:45 bro forgot Cristiano and thought we wouldn't notice, that guy holds a number of 627M and you missed him jokes on you

[@Dickheadbynature]

Ain't that serious darshan💀

[@Gears_Starting]

I wonder how effective poison would be. Maybe someone could spike his milk.

[@lunatpr5594]

Imagine Death Battle's Omni-Man vs Homelander, but with MatPat instead of Omni-Man.

[@ProjektTaku]

Its just matpat soundly explaining to homelander how, if he actually decided to do whatever he want, the world's governments would just launch their nukes at him to at least heavily injure and knock him out, then send him in a rocket to the moon.

[@Alecup06]

​@@ProjektTaku nukes do nothing they already threw a nuke at him while he was a baby

[@dawnevans8931]

14:16 remember that one economy song about seashells? This is what this reminds me of.

[@epzo]

Can't believe he's leaving. :( Goodbye Matt we will miss you so much

[@ultragodzillafan]

Minor problem with this theory: If Homelander no longer has his brand, what's to stop him for going on a random killing spree and taking over that way. The only thing that keeps him in check is his desire to be loved by everyone. If he doesn't have that, he becomes much more dangerous.

[@jayb8934]

He's even said as much himself when Starlight threatened to blackmail him. As he says, he'd rather be loved but if that's not an option he'll settle for being feared.

[@esmineldraaybara6975]

I think the reason Butcher didn't die was because Homelander was shielding him while carrying him. So relative to Homelander, Butcher was at rest. While the air particles and other things which would've turned him to mush were blocked by Homelander. Similar to how fighter plane pilots are fine inside the plane at speeds at which humans would've become soup. Obviously the lift and stop would've still put immense amount of Gs on Butcher, which is why we see him waking up from being knocked out cold.

[@skillzorz101]

I think the acceleration would do a whole lot worse than causing unconsciousness. If a fighter pilot went from 0 to full speed, faster than an explosion, they would be dead even inside the cockpit. Your brain would be compressed on one side of your skull, for starters. It's like experience immense gravity for a split second.

[@csquared973]

Exactly- ur insides would liquefy

[@ewutermohlen]

​@@skillzorz101the comment assumes Butcher was accelerated at a more moderate pace. While being shielded from the blast, Homelander wanted to show Butcher something. So he kept him alive quite carefully since there were no signs of damage on Butcher.

[@Mrtablespoon.]

5:05 yeah “distracted”

[@garfcat7]

in the reddit sub, homelander confirmed that he doesnt want to be president, he said "why would i want to get demoted?"

[@jamesmorrison6204]

I was gonna mention this but good to see that someone else already has

[@vitorgabrielgomesrodrigues]

This aged well​@@jamesmorrison6204

[@theponystark]

10:07 "He's able to heat up a bottle of milk..." Aww, how noble and innocent

[@maestrulgamer9695]

14:00-This is as convincing as a youtube apology video.

[@tyukogames]

8:45 -Cuts trough the whole jet in 23 frames or 0.96 seconds -Plane used is a british aerospace 125 -Width of a human eye is roughly 2.43cm; Planea have an average of 15.2cm thick hulls. Doubling both if theese numbers because humans have 2 eyes and 2 side of the plane -Typically, planes are made from some combination of titanium, steel, and alluminum, but we are going to calculate assumimg it's alluminum because that's the option with the lowest meltimg point.That would mean we are low balling the strengh of the homelander here. -Melting point of alumiminum is 660 celcius, 1221 fahrenheit. -Also gonna be assuming to be assumimg he is cutting vertically;Difficult to see the exact lenght he cut diagnonally, and i would rather low ball than anything -Height of the exterior of the aerospace 125 is 2.9 meters. -Assuming that the exterior is roughly -40 degrees celcius (as it is flying in high in the sky and that's the higher end of the temp at crushing altitude) -Amout of aluminion melted= (0.0243m*2)*(0.152m*2)*2.9m=115.7 KG of alluminum melted -Alluminum has a specific heat of rougly 902 J/KG*C This means that it takes 902 jouls per killogram to raise the temperature of alluminum by 1 degree celcius -That means, just this lowball back of the napkin math number is 73,052,980 joules to cut trough this plane and he did this in less than a second.That's roughly 20.3KWH No need to thank me

[@Kinglovinstone]

**MALFUNCTION, CANT COMPUTE**

[@F-22.]

My systems can't even comprehend what this means

[@beansandpizza0375]

New food theory episode idea! "Does a Spoonfull of sugar REALLY help the medicine go down?"

[@Firemaster27]

Omni Man: “I’m gonna feed you your own heart.”

[@Spidoc]

they have discussed multiple times in the show how killing his reputation would only make him a bigger threat because now he has no reason to not go on a rampage

[@jellyrollderp3193]

The fact that Mike Tyson punch is only 26x weaker than Homelander’s feat is far more impressive than we think 6:59

[@TwoFor3]

14:12 aged so well

[@skibiditolietguy]

fax

[@adamallen7070]

Big shoutout to Matpat for putting himself back onto the fbi watchlist after researching how fast C4 detonates. I’m sure after doing the spiderman miles morales episode with the nuke it took a while to get off the list

[@lewis4200]

CORRECTION! In the section about punching through human skin, the units of PSI are used again when it should change back to Pounds. Human skin breaking pressure = 100psi Human fist area = 64in² So Homelander's punch delivers 6400lbs of force, NOT 6400psi

[@averyyost2543]

Also they used the surface area of a human hand where they should use the cross sectional area (the 2d area of the knuckles). The area parallel to the object matters. Not the perpendicular area

[@coookiemilk4463]

another critique i have is that the front of the fist, or at least mine, is around 6 sq in, and the entire fist (volume) is about 24, idk where the 64 comes from, and EVEN including the actual surface area of my fist rather than the volume, I still get 44. SO what happened there

[@tylerlane2159]

​@coookiemilk4463 you have small hands then.

[@spartan15]

This wasn’t a theory… this very “theory” was explicitly explained in Season 3.

[@Moofydakidd]

Homelander has to be one of the best things to hit the comic books/television screen 😂

[@stuartclarke2988]

im smarter than matpat my theories are better!

[@stuartclarke2988]

im smarter than matpat my theories are better!

[@Moofydakidd]

@@confusciouspuff1013 lol you know what ? I’m with you on the second half

[@cingkrayz1959]

​@@MoofydakiddTHANK YOU!!!

[@quagsire_lover3235]

I think we all know that the best way to beat homelander is to bring out omni man.

[@_darknight134]

Even then thats an overkill

[@Dickinthesenutzs27]

Nah just bring out Spiderman, that mf slams Homelander and the verse.

[@_darknight134]

@@Dickinthesenutzs27 okay bro, spiderman is literally my favourite hero oat but he does NOT clap homelander. You can hate, lowball and underestimate him all you want but spidey is never beating a superman knockoff, ever.

[@thehybrid3947]

Tbh I thought you were going to reference how his biggest weakness or one of them is high radiation as high amounts can burn through the V in a supes system making them normal as shown in S3 when Soldier Boy used his powers with that being the main reason he was recruited to fight Homelander so he can make him a normal guy

[@lazy_guy_2525]

We will remember you forever matpat

[@pikkulink6996]

If matpat was evil, at this point he'd be able to pierce plot armor.

[@pixelwizard9652]

I wouldn’t doubt that.

[@thepopeisnotawarcriminal]

God, the show is so much better than the original comics run. I’m just surprised that MatPat made this video

[@chadharger9323]

Thing about the comic is that the creator is on record saying he hates superhero comics. On the surface The Boys looks like a superhero deconstruction like Watchmen or Irredeemable, it's mostly the author raging against superheroes.

[@shayaankhusro4104]

The theory I'm interested in is how come the temp Compound V gave Butch and Hughie the exact counters for the heroes they have grudge against?

[@littledudefromacrossthestr5755]

?

[@KeaveMind]

Hughie did not have super speed? He could teleport. I think temp v just powers up your personal source of power. For butcher it's hate, so he got the laser eyes and for Hughes it's fear or something, cause he's more the get outta there type

[@razorsharp1371]

Butcher and homeowner are actually incredibly similar people, I think that their powers work the same is a narrative choice to show that they're the same.

[@midnight_marshadow]

​@KeaveMind he said they were counters for the heroes they hate, the only real counter to super speed would be teleportation.

[@crazagres1839]

@@midnight_marshadow Or super speed of your own. Or any sufficient AOE power. Teleportation isn't even a good counter since it'll just stall and not win. Might not even be able to stall if the speedster is strong.

[@anantprakash8663]

well thats 16 mins down the drain

[@kushagra4282]

thanks for the heads up

[@anantprakash8663]

@@kushagra4282 youre wlcm

[@MarcusSchielke-nh3el]

He was correct though, he is the president now

[@DarthVader-jt5ek]

At 4:20 The jet home lander throws is an AV-8B Harriar With a maximum takoffweight of about 31,000lbs

[@F-22.]

That's what I'm saying

[@Dragonlady141]

Please do more theories on the Boys! There is so much to unwrap in this show!

[@mastrkool]

Did you forget that Homelander can’t see through Zinc?, they specifically said that in the show how limited his powers are

[@SubtleStair]

Like how Superman couldn't see through lead in the 1980s movies!

[@awnyx6799]

5:46 was wrong. it takes 100 psi to break the human skin. so if home lander broke his skin with his fists it would be 6400 lbs of force. NOT 6400 psi. it is still 100 psi just over a larger area. so the comparisons to a boxer and pressure washers is incorrect.

[@Vladimir_Kv]

12:28 Those statistics are *nuts.* Are people on the internet really that gullible? More than half of the audience is really invested in watching and following *_advertisements,_* the cancer of the media space?

[@nickd.949]

Great video, but for future reference the aircraft at 4:33 isn’t an f-16 it’s a harrier, which is vastly different and could weigh even more than an f-16

[@mridk6077]

Glad someone noticed

[@charlesmackie9217]

Same here too.

[@sethcheshire5687]

13:45 i love how Bezos has more power than the pope😂

[@surviverplaysuplayer1142]

God i will miss these theories hahaha Hopefully the channels will stay so i can keep playing them in tge background while working

[@WestfilmsCo]

This is the best! I’m so happy to see this channel going back to science stuff. The focus on lore lately isn’t bad, but it loses something I love about this channel.

[@140theguy]

Just for the record, Comic book Homelander was stated to be able to lift 450 tons. The same amount Invincible could life when he just got his powers. 😳

[@Iamworm]

12:14 why does he kinda look like homelander in this 💀

[@jurassicguineapig6697]

Mr beast is homelander