Film Theory: How Wonder Woman DOOMED Humanity! (Wonder Woman 1984)

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The highly anticipated Wonder Woman 1984 is FINALLY out! It's been too long since I had a new superhero movie to talk about, so I had to watch and see if anything stood out as theory worthy. Well, Theorists, Wonder Woman did it again - or rather she DIDN'T! The last time I talked about Wonder Woman, she'd failed us as a hero. Well, looks like she's up to her old habits again! Yep, Wonder Woman has failed us once again - and I'll tell you how!
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Credits:
Writers: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
Editors: Koen Verhagen, Forrest Lee, and Tyler Mascola
Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

[@namialus1376]

superhero: *exists* matpat: *i diagnose you with... failure*

[@gamer_growtopia]

1min ago?

[@cameronhuff5170]

Wow you were pinned... for some reason...

[@gamer_growtopia]

@@cameronhuff5170 hello

[@JediPlays0309]

@@gamer_growtopia yep 🤣 Mat pat is SPEEEEEEEED Ever since that FOOD stuff at least

[@gamer_growtopia]

@@JediPlays0309 yep

[@leobr0724]

Diana: *turns plane invisible Steve: I can’t see the controls! Diana: oh sh- Boom

[@jimynutron87]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Silver_Sonic_23]

That’s a good one

[@Rubixqc]

Lol

[@zavvr4958]

Underrated comment

[@spicy_phill3962]

how he do that tho

[@nickfwcarti]

Theory idea: how much money do phineas and Ferb have. This includes all the same day shipping and other delivery fees.

[@arnav7458]

They have to be billionaires. Which they probably arent

[@arnav7458]

Wait, they are definitely not

[@carboncommissions]

@Nightbringer14 RIP for the mom

[@ThePokeman]

@@arnav7458 maybe they’ve set up and/or built some super sweet bank, sold some of their inventions to businesses to make a profit off that, keeping all their money in some secure location. They are geniuses so I’d assume they have thought of this problem.

[@saracasella4160]

Yes!! Please!

[@shamuriwarrior]

Not to mention Steve acting like he’s never seen fireworks before on the forth of July

[@toddtaylor6506]

@@cfssuperhero Or a train ....

[@LXW-Arts]

Loosy goosy writing. Steam engines are over 200 years old Escalators are over 100 years old Wow World War 1 was 1914 to 1918 - escalators were 20 years old at the time and steam engines 70 or 80. Yeah Steve would of see an train and at least heard of escalators.

[@edgyanole9705]

@@LXW-Arts *a train

[@laurenpaige8493]

My father was an engineer who specialized in aircrafts. He greatly appreciated this episode. In his words “I really like this Matt guy!”

[@diamondsrubies1964]

I like Mat too 😄

[@biffin1123]

So, when are you getting married to Matt. 😁

[@PeaceEllen]

@@user-iq2uh9pn9f you are dispicable.

[@van5395]

@@user-iq2uh9pn9f @Zoma Zoma2 U have been terrorizing humanity far too long. Begone, FOUL BEAST!! its a video showing how to convert word to ppt. Ur welcome

[@MrCODEmaster00]

@@van5395 what's ppt?

[@pengu1no247]

“wait why are you delaying the movie?” “matpat guessed it again”

[@iampidgeon6923]

I swear it happens every time

[@donut7799]

MatPat: I don't want to make a theory about if Wonder Woman's rocket couldn't reach orbit Writers: How did he know

[@galensalvador2700]

I like how you commented twice like a monster of a commenter

[@galensalvador2700]

@@floettefavors it was a joke OK

[@Omnomnomfish]

@@galensalvador2700 r\whoooosh OK

[@mady6929]

Wouldn’t the scene where Steve and Diana are flying through the fireworks be, idk, super traumatic considering Steve was a pilot in the war, and died in a plane explosion? I feel like he would have been freaking out 😂 Also, major plot hole, not a single person wished for world peace? Like What kinda paradoxical implosion would happen if someone wished for world peace, at the same time people were wishing for nukes..? Would Maxwell just be like “lol nah you don’t get that wish” 🤔 😂

[@queenebonlyqueeneb5419]

There was a sigh about wishing for no more nukes in a crowd but apparently the president s wish over ruled that

[@EmmanezerScrooge]

World peace comes around cause only three people survive the nukes lol

[@josephsade3423]

Like you'd have wish for world peace if you had the opportunity. It wouldn't even pop up in your head.

[@EmmanezerScrooge]

@@josephsade3423 out of over 7 billion people, statistically it makes sense that at least one will pray for that.

[@fostena]

He can choose to grant what he wants (he ignores his son's wish until the end), and wishes can override one another, he doesn't care about that.

[@jessecarbarin9292]

This isn't even a theory any more, its a class

[@agentno.2436]

Same, I wasted my time

[@kevynlub2655]

@@agentno.2436 how?? There are no real downsides to classes besides difficulty, lack of entertainment, and extra work. This doesn’t have any of that

[@agentno.2436]

@@kevynlub2655 bro ru serious, he means it's a class bc of all the stupid science nerdy stuff, did u actually think we meant him giving us work?? Do u have a brain

[@njay4399]

@@agentno.2436 Do you? Those grammar mistakes were off the charts! 😂

[@star22sally67]

@@agentno.2436 is this your first Matt pat video? He's known for is numbers and science and stuff. 🤣🤣🤣

[@jheadley635]

I was a fighter jet mechanic for years, and that scene where they stole the jet was infuriating. An aircraft at a museum not only would be drained of fuel, but it would also be drained of gallons of engine oil, gallons of hydraulic fluid used to power the flight controls and landing gear, and these planes also require regular servicing of gasses such as nitrogen and oxygen. Plus, a lot of them can't even start up on their own. You first need to connect a car-sized electrical power generator to them, and then disconnect it later. There's a lot more to fighter jets than just turning the key and hitting the gas.

[@roycaffey68]

Former helicopter mechanic here. I know many helicopters in museums also have many systems removed as well. (engines, fuel tanks, hydraulic reservoirs) Is it the same for fixed-wing museum aircraft as well?

[@Vgy1592]

I don't know why, but my eyes skipped "mechanic" like three times in reading this comment. And I was kind of confused how one can *be* a fighter jet, let alone how someone *stops* being one.

[@stewarde17]

@@roycaffey68 it the same for any craft going into mothballs boat, plane, car, you name it.

[@Spiceodog]

I didn’t need to be a mechanic to say “ wait a minute........they got that from a museum right?”

[@wwiiinplastic4712]

If what they did was possible, I would be on my way to the Pensacola Naval Air Museum to fly their Me 262 German jet fighter right out of there.

[@ChaoticIntent_]

The military when the jet becomes invisible: "Oh no. Anyway"

[@johnconner9149]

Especially over Washington D.C.

[@tywaters9596]

@@johnconner9149 we saw how much dc matters the other day

[@notanengineer]

Jeremy

[@NoalFarstrider]

Anti air craft gun: "Wait, Dont, come back!" As flak fires...

[@TheGodOfKults]

my inner geek was screaming when it disappeared

[@TeeklGrey]

Glad I'm not the only one who was like "Wait, the last time Steve flew was in like 1918 and now he knows how to fly a jet from 1984??? What???"

[@ThePokeman]

⚠️ (SPOILER WARNING) ⚠️ Hope Matpat can see this! I’m honestly surprised that he didn’t go into the biggest plot hole, that the dreamstone is still out there, but I guess he didn’t want to spoil the end of the movie. 😂 When Max Lord reversed his wish to fuse with the stone, it must have reappeared in his office right?? Meaning this whole thing could start all over again with some other crazy person. That’s how Wonder Woman really failed the world, she didn’t even fix what was the main threat of the movie. 🤣

[@NekoEcho13]

Honestly, it's debatable as to whether that's actually what happened. We never see the stone again and the world doesn't just revert back to the way things were before all the wishes had been made. It continues to go on with the effects of the stone still having an overall part that was played on/in the world. If things continue to go on with the stones effects remaining tangible (the wall and nukes needing to literally destroy themselves rather than just fading into nothingness) then it's potentially possible that by rescinding his wish, and with the stone having dissolved to dust previously, that Max's wish reversal actually permanently destroyed the stone.

[@ThePokeman]

@@NekoEcho13 like you said, debatable.

[@drumickd4542]

@@NekoEcho13 Well, I don’t need to say anything.

[@dashing3608]

If I ever make a movie... I'm going to call this guy and ask him to go over everything and make sure it all fits.

[@abner_.silveira8845]

Same

[@icygamez9565]

You also would need to explain everything that you would want in the movie

[@aarushikishore1417]

SAMEE but for me, in novels, music videos and art works

[@arnav7458]

Yeah, I hope he will agree lol 😂

[@tristanbatt1367]

Lmao

[@camerapasteurize7215]

"Disturbing implications for their relationship" I mean, they literally took some random innocent guy and put him through life endangering situations, incriminating him in the theft of an airplane, have... *ahem*... relations with Steve in this guy's body, who has not consented to this, making it rape, there are SOOOO many things wrong with the way they handled Steve coming back.

[@sillymovie1330]

@WheresPaul#1981 to be fair no one really knew who Wonder Woman was, besides the random sightings that were mentioned

[@tylerfortin3239]

Actual rape. Imagine if the genders were reversed? Thered be riots

[@Texan.Insomniac]

@WheresPaul#1981 Rape is rape

[@kylenegaard6461]

Creepy

[@sigmacademy]

And remember, this is in a world where reincarnation is a thing. Like being reincarnated as yourself, and that isn't even counting magical means of being saved? :/

[@kolossis8283]

"Sorry mom, I can't wish that your cancer will be gone because some deliquent daughter of Zeus told us not to wish for anything"

[@ComicDrake]

Man, all that redesigning the plane JUST so Diana and Steve can sit side by side? That's insane and I never would have noticed that! 😮

[@tabithapyle7307]

How's Life?

[@waddledoo2you13]

Invisible plane is invisible

[@itsjedu8403]

Bro you got that checkmark drip

[@serenaaleprete4230]

Hiiiiiiiii 🤪

[@TheOther-Dude]

The Drake of comics has arrived, run!

[@aviculor]

Wonder Woman 3: Diana takes a train in a way that's physically impossible

[@marcoottina654]

getting through a tunnel that doesn't exists

[@hydrolito]

You mean like in Back to the future 3 having train travel through time when hit 88 MPH?

[@javierfebronio8907]

@aviculor Wonder Woman 3: Diana finds out she is pregnant and the father is the random guy Steve possessed

[@moldyfish1007]

Is the most complex and detailed movie rant I’ve ever seen

[@fostena]

You didn't watch many rants, did you :D

[@andrewharless6587]

@@fostena that’s what I was about to say XD. This is probably one of the most boring rants on this channel. Loved learning about planes but wtf. Thought there would be way more to this rant than just, plane go brrrrrrr.

[@lvbboi9]

I mean The Closer Look made an hour long rant about this film which is also very detailed (more from a storytelling point rather than technical one but still)

[@reformed1trick739]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one triggered by the whole "sonar can't see us because we're invisible" thing lol 😆 Edit: yes, I'm aware that when I wrote this comment at 3am a month ago, my phone auto-corrected to sonar instead of radar. It still doesn't matter if something is invisible when you are using the reflection of electromagnetic waves to detect something instead of visible light.

[@shaildarji9555]

*RADAR*

[@janjosephmatulac7517]

Sonar? I thought sonar uses underwater vessels like submarines.

[@urgay1992]

Not sonar but radar and honestly, I think matpat is wrong about that one.

[@nylajereb4523]

Movie logic: invisible = no detection from radar RADAR: *Am I joke to you?*

[@Navajonkee]

Well, we could say that since we don't know how invisibility works in the case of that plane, it is explainable by "magic". The plane is invisible, which means that somehow, visible light is neither absorbed, not reflected off of its surface. If it can do that on the visible spectrum, who's to say it can't do that on the radio spectrum as well?

[@pinacolada9793]

I like how MatPat doesn’t even point out the fact that Steve and Diana still have to return back to the US in the same jet with no fuel and the fact that cameras could easily identify the two individuals who stole a military jet, so they would immediately be wanted all across the country

[@jasonhenry8067]

Forget the country, NATO was a thing at the time. A full third of the world would be hunting them down.

[@MidnightPhantom]

But they have something that goes against common sense: plot armor and plot device

[@47ratsinahoodie]

@@MidnightPhantom Diana: STEVE, LOOK! I conveniently remembered that I have the ability to repair machinery!

[@van5395]

@@user-iq2uh9pn9f @Zoma Zoma2 U have been terrorizing humanity far too long. Begone, FOUL BEAST!! its a video showing how to convert word to ppt. Ur welcome

[@Matador303]

This.

[@victoriarobinson6152]

"It's minor point, but I just wanted to call it out." I feel like that's the theme of this whole channel.

[@inkstar7521]

@@veryhot3007 😠

[@aetherraven67656]

@@veryhot3007 Why do we need to know? This is a *theory* video, and you're just yelling about your tech video.

[@pdrozewski]

Why watch it then, just skip this channel, lol? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@trashley05]

@@pdrozewski the person who wrote the comment is clearly a fan of the channel lol? Who you attacking

[@johnfeliciano3746]

It wasn't all that the first was much better. Spoiler alert she flies

[@OK-yy6qz]

Theory: either Daina or Maxwell Lord wished for all the wishes to be cancelled or something like that. There's no way every single human being decided to cancel their wishes based on the speech Daina gave some would be too selfish to do that and some simply had not selfish reasons some would simply wish things like curing their own disease or disability or erasing that particular disease or disability from the world. No way something as cheap as "you shouldn't cheat kids" would work on these people. So either she or Lord cheated and erased the effects of the stone

[@vermiciousknid2456]

Remember when Diana went to that shamans shop and found out what that stone was she found out it's true purpose was to create chaos! So even if someone wished for a disease or disability to be cured something there would be some kind of consequence!

[@sean-thegamer5456]

When it comes to the jet there is a simple explanation, Diana said she had been trying to learn how her father hid the Island, an island that isn't on maps, that doesn't show on radar, and what not. And she used the same technique to hide the jet, hence why radar dosent show it.

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

I know some people think these kinds of videos are silly. “It’s just a movie” they say. But unfortunately we consume so many movies that the truth of how things work can become distorted. It’s a good reality check to be reminded that “movie magic” is just that: magic.

[@hobo9073]

I agree my friend.

[@Wright805]

Plus it's good for aspiring writers to know so we can improve our own stories.

[@madkirk7431]

@@user-iq2uh9pn9f PDF spammer

[@madkirk7431]

@@ManiacMemes of course it's funny to you, IT'S YOUR FREAKIN VIDEO

[@redfoxoffire]

Some of the theory videos are definitely pretty silly, but ones like this are pretty legit imo. These kinds of logical failures break immersion.

[@KingShade1]

Writer: "Sir, I'm gonna need you to get aaaaaall the way off my back with that science and research stuff."

[@sadekke]

Well let me get off of that thing then

[@VikingTeddy]

Disrespecting the audience is tight!

[@janusinitiative3520]

Love the reference

[@sonamnechen8733]

@@janusinitiative3520 Yeah Yeah Yeah

[@h.a.biarcal284]

nice Ryan George reference wowowowowowowowowowow

[@PepinillosPicantes]

you should do a film theory about “wandavision”

[@lilyflay3824]

Yesssss he should!

[@SP-de7mf]

Yes!

[@ungratefulape9121]

I don’t really like that show. This is just my opinion you don’t have to get all defensive, but I think it’s kinda big dumb stupid.

[@PepinillosPicantes]

@@ungratefulape9121 i totally understand, i fell asleep during 2 episodes. I just think it would be cool to see him uncover all the secrets of it. I’d do it but i’m too lazy

[@ungratefulape9121]

@@PepinillosPicantes finally some one on the internet that isn’t a raging monster and can let people have opinions. Thank you for being unlike the rest of the comments.

[@blobfishman5225]

13:03 Small problem here, radio waves, like visible light waves, are EM waves, which makes them fundamentally the same thing just with different wavelengths, which means that if diana's magic cloaks the plane from all EM waves, they are also invisible to radars. But they forgot about the transponder so they're still dead.

[@pengu1no247]

he says she’s a palpatine but she turns out to be a nobody but then she’s actually a palpatine. what the heck disney.

[@themadmattster9647]

it's a "darth vader killed my father but was my father" sort of "things are true from a certain point of view" thing type of thing

[@manlymantis101]

There have been interviews where they admitted they had absolutely no plan for how the movies would turn out and even made stuff up on the fly.

[@iamamazing7771]

Wait... did that mean palpatine got BUSY!?

[@SkyEcho751]

@@iamamazing7771 No, he cloned himself, none of the clones were force sensitive(don't remember if there was more then one), so when the empire fell they just ditched to the outer rim, but then the Child of said clone was force sensitive, so the undead/ghost Palpatine hunted the child, Rey. Think of the Plot of Rise of Skywalker as a more convoluted version of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.

[@AdrianChazz]

She turned out to be pendeja, that's what it is... _Rey... Honey..._ *_You. Are Not. A Skywalker._*

[@adam_2473]

When matpat says “a theory for another day”, it reminds him of other times he’s said it. Those particular times when he’s said “that’s a theory for another day” about a theory I was genuinely interested in, but he never got around to it.

[@diakounknown1225]

I was thinking the same thing in this episode I wonder if someone has made a list of all the theories matpat said he'd do but didn't.

[@crow457]

The Until Dawn anti-gravity towel

[@infamousplayer8772]

*A gOoD QUeSTioN fOr aNoThER TImE.*

[@ThePokeman]

Matpat, the research you’ve done on this is amazing, the fuel amounts and distances able to be traveled, along with the radar and stuff, but I have one word that solves it all. Magic. Maybe Wonder Woman did more than just make the jet invisible?? Maybe she gave it extra power to travel to Egypt and maybe the invisibility somehow stops it from reflecting radio waves? It’s a bunch of unexplained power like you said, so maybe that’s the real solution to it all? 😂 Also I’m surprised you didn’t talk about how the dreamstone is still out there, thought that’s what you were gonna talk about when I saw the title. I’ll make another comment on that.

[@Awesome_Pichu]

That's still an issue since she said she still trying to learn how to turn something invisible, so it-s highly unlikely she would have mastered keeping the jet in flight the entire rest of the trip

[@davidlahozgil]

About the radar: The point is that THERE IS A PHYSICAL EFFECT, so the jet is reflecting radio waves. Even if we assume that the jet does not receive them, there are still fluctuations (due to the deformation of the clouds) that allow the jet's location to be detected (because yes, the radio waves react to the change in density in the air caused by the jet at full speed going through it).

[@termin8953]

You forget, she made the jet invisible, now this would have been done by bending light around it. This of course would also mean air would bend around it and reduce drag to magical lows, thus drastically increasing fuel efficiency :)

[@sev1120]

Bending air around it would result in no air going into the pistons, meaning no explosion to propel it forwards

[@blackwatch2516]

which would mean that the plane would crash immeditialy after wonder woman uses her magic

[@bigg_survivor_8876]

While it couldn’t bend wins maybe the cloak could absorb radio waves similar to the f22

[@michaeliv284]

Know what else bends air around something? Moving that something!

[@kaneadams5191]

MatPat: "I don't want to talk about how Wonder woman's ROCKET won't reach orbit next time" DC: "WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!"

[@swangrisly2148]

MatPat: Makes a video of "How to Not Train Your Dragon" Jarasic World director's: "😐✍Noted" 🤭🤭

[@gajananwani4136]

Write that to not do that see

[@micahbirdlover8152]

@@swangrisly2148 matpat making flim theory Jurassic park domain ☝️😄🤭

[@baconpantsable]

This whole thing woulda been resolved if the writers just did some light googling

[@megabuster3940]

Patty Jenkins, a bright one she is not

[@ethanankrum4149]

Lol like if fighter jets could go that far, aircraft carriers probably wouldn’t be necessary! Also they don’t explain how Wonder Woman gets back to America either! It shouldn’t have been the jet that’s for sure

[@toolegittoquit_001]

@@ethanankrum4149 They probably had the invisible flight crew re-fill it for the return flight

[@ethanankrum4149]

@@toolegittoquit_001 and the invisible landing strip that wouldn’t detect an approaching fighter jet

[@mistywafers7623]

Yep

[@THE5lash]

Day 1 asking matpat to: make theory about “as the gods will”

[@swissham0132]

Cinema summary? A man of culture

[@THE5lash]

@@swissham0132 OUR. CULTURE.

[@fredchallenger5278]

ONE OF US!

[@THE5lash]

@@fredchallenger5278 YEAH!!!

[@peskybird2714]

I think it's too bloody for mattpat to upload a video about censoring could help

[@jimmywoolever798]

(Note: I have not seen the movie) Depending on how exactly the magic invisibility works, it actually could be invisible to radar. If she's bending the light around the jet (or allowing it to pass through), it might not just be visible light, but the entire electromagnetic spectrum including radio waves.

[@MrBlacHaze]

The Dream Stone is Really called The McGuffin Stone.

[@Jesup1204]

Obviously you haven't read the source material. dc.fandom.com/wiki/Dreamstone

[@itzaameeemalario7750]

The oral cigarettes did justice to the ending and the show

[@robertkerr4199]

@@Jesup1204 wow... obviously you've never heard of sarcasm.

[@adude8671]

200 like

[@iruXshi]

@@Jesup1204 obviously you haven't heard of jokes

[@AciDicBliTzz]

Diana, you have failed this city

[@dankman6411]

arrow reference

[@whatdadogdoin6178]

Arrow music proceeds to play

[@whatdadogdoin6178]

@Holl ywood hahahahahahahaha

[@Slapstick_Editz]

run bruce run

[@myla0831]

Add public reply here...

[@rubiix2889]

As an aviation buff I am thrilled at how much you put into this video 😁

[@alxsch]

Heyo, Partially deaf here, Your automatic generated captions is set to dutch for some reason. Can you change it to English?

[@glubzyoutube4374]

try it twice because it happened to me

[@alxsch]

@@glubzyoutube4374 rip tried again....still Dutch :(

[@cheesecakelasagna]

Still Dutch for me too :/

[@kit_the_inevitable]

i noticed this too. i wish yt still had community captions, i'm just now getting into transcribing and not having /any/ captions available sucks

[@kyleswenson8815]

It happens on alot of videos I think it's a problem on KZbin end and of course since it's on the corporate end it's not likely to be changed any time in the next few million years

[@gregschannel1224]

I feel like movie companies should have a job position called the “plot hole finder” Mat Patt would meat ALL of the requirements Edit* HOLY SMOKEY BACON, This simple comment got 1000 likes in TWO DAYS!, that is just wild, thank you guys sooo much 😁

[@donatello4286]

Especially if the steaks are high

[@joshdeveaux6936]

*meet

[@akshatkumar6180]

@@donatello4286 This is sooo underrated

[@garys261]

He would meat all the holes

[@ninadurniat1888]

meat

[@UltimateGoose58]

As a citizen of Maine I can confirm that the last 3 times I tried to fly to Cairo I died in a firey explosion

[@DrakeRenar1]

Same here!

[@Igorcastrochucre]

Hold up

[@user-iq2uh9pn9f]

OMG... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIS2d5qNoamVgLc

[@user-iq2uh9pn9f]

@@DrakeRenar1 OMG... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIS2d5qNoamVgLc

[@diamondsrubies1964]

😂😂😂

[@AlekMax64]

Matpat, you’ve inspired me. Recently I have been watching this show called “The adventures of sonic the hedgehog” I think it’s on Netflix so any one wishing to see can watch it if they have a Netflix account. Anyway the two main stooges of dr robotnik are robots named scratch and grounder but I have a theory about them. My theory is that they are not robots at all but cyborgs. The show shows them having things like toungs and teeth and other organic body parts so maybe they are cyborgs. Would love for you to see this matpat, Theory on!!!

[@Lexi-wi4it]

I just wanna say that when I watched your first wonder woman theory I was living in an apartment in Georgia and I now live in a house in Florida, and have lived in this house for about two and a half years now. That's just crazy to me how fast time flies.

[@adootyavision9665]

Can we give the editor an award for making that Cruise Joke

[@watervisuals8727]

You are thick froggo

[@toefungus8664]

Timestamp?

[@kylelong6226]

@@toefungus8664 6:49

[@bencressman6110]

man, there were so many good editing gags!

[@Settledown77]

It was a Top Gun reference

[@MrMama.]

“She failed us” As most dc movies tend to do

[@MrMama.]

The comics are great but the movies..... Oh nonononono

[@sebswede9005]

Only Disney can save DC

[@offthepoint2208]

@@sebswede9005 lmao WhAT

[@thegoliath9310]

*Live action

[@emilykaminski3647]

That's why DC has their animated films to save the characters.

[@theoryboss7351]

I saw in our Avondale a Wonder Bread tortilla package say that it's tortilla's don't tear easy. It made me think, wouldn't that make an interesting Food Theory? Which brand's tortillas are the strongest? With different tests such as, making them wet, drying them out, etc. It'd be interesting.

[@warriorzeke5424]

Do a theory on how soul number 22 from the new movie Soul is actually Riley from Inside Out

[@shayla_lesk1542]

Me: Expecting something about Diana dying or failing. Matpat: *AIRPLANES!*

[@jayvhoncalma3458]

Matpat the character assassin is at it again

[@lidianc5591]

@@jayvhoncalma3458 whats your obsession with him fam?

[@sai62789]

Yeah, only the plane part was unrealistic, all other superhero sh*t is very real. Like come on man, it's just a movie not documentary or something.

[@tannercole3300]

Mat: Yay, new video! Scott: WHY ARE YOU NEGLECTING ME???

[@esperscornerofyt]

xD (fnaf: oML HELP MAKE A NEW VIDEO ABOUT USSS)

[@TheFoldMusic]

This movie failed us when they stole the plot of Encino Man for Steve's return.

[@ThunderJimmy]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@tiredlink8069]

Ello fold

[@BigPurp9]

It felt like I was watching a really bad 2 and a half hour episode of fairly odd parents

[@danyalmalik3972]

@Holl ywood you have 12k

[@leozalcman8445]

Also the monkey's paw

[@rogerhage7392]

Love the vids you do amazing theories and make me question everything keep up the great work

[@ltsecondincomand]

3:00 "It's not stealing, it secret borrowing" --- Ron Stoppable.

[@cormac4654]

Next theory: The Magic School May *ACTUALLY* be Possible

[@indahningsih3556]

You mean, the magic shcool "bus"?

[@AlabamaMan]

It’s *magiccccccc*

[@clichejaz9916]

Right in the center of spain is an abandoned building...

[@Cartoonicus]

I would LOVE to see that.

[@femalepapyrus]

Maybe

[@kiebahow442]

“Okay they found a plot hole in our story with the plain. What should we do to cover this up?” “Magic plane.” “Ok! Good! So how about Steve being a 1910 pilot?” “Umm.... We could... say because of the magic wish he gained knowledge of current planes.” “Using magic is tight! So will this knowledge be consistent.” “Im going to need you to get all the way off my back.”

[@bowmanc.7439]

It is consistent if you’ve seen enough fiction. There are magic in fiction where a thing is invisible to human/living thing perception. As in when you look at it, you don’t see it. When you look at it on the screen, you don’t see it, even though it’s on the screen. And you forget you were ever looking for it. Your AI is screaming at you “master! I found the thing you were looking for! ” You: “what did you just say?” AI repeats. You: “did you say something?” AI repeats. You: “what thing? I didn’t ask you to look for anything.” AI describes the thing. You: “I’m sorry were we just talking? I must have dozed off. Anyway, what’s for lunch? “ AI: “master, it’s 22:00 now, we have been discussing the thing all day but you keep forgetting and asking me the same question!” You: “what were you saying? Anyway, I’m really hungry. What’s for lunch?”

[@jackfrost9451]

Plane..jus saying

[@jackielinde7568]

I see what you did there. Did they put out a video on the WW1984 pitch yet?

[@jackfrost9451]

@@jackielinde7568 not yet,but boy ohhh boy she's out there tho

[@supermario68252]

@@bowmanc.7439 like scp-055 where they always forget about it.

[@cebrum1]

According the the information given about the movie; the jet they used happened to be an F-111 Aardvark and not a Tornado. So actually, the seating arrangement was accurate.

[@twilight3272]

Isn’t this the movie where a man that’s basically in a coma gets violated

[@ethanankrum4149]

“Please think” sorry Matt patt, you’re asking for too much, dc writers don’t believe in doing something like that

[@kingconniebonnie2178]

Too dumb

[@Anonymous-kt7ud]

F

[@saphi20]

agenda over plot

[@blank7062]

Umm, Dc writers, DO pay attention, Movie Producers don't

[@epicgamerman3665]

Hey it is just a theory a film theory

[@beccac4982]

This movie's plot had more stretches than an advanced yoga class.

[@alluringbliss4165]

hilarious 😂

[@user-iq2uh9pn9f]

OMG... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIS2d5qNoamVgLc

[@showerheadjoker9672]

@@user-iq2uh9pn9f shut up with your advertisement

[@arealisticbeautystandard8920]

As someone who teaches an advanced yoga class, I can can confirm this statement.

[@Cookiekopter]

About radar and invisible plane its first thing that has came me to mind in this scene

[@Whispurer]

Reminds me of Transformers ROTF where there was a massive desert airplane graveyard behind the Smithsonian Air and Space museum.

[@thomasdavis3464]

there is another plot hole. when diana flies she grapples onto a plane. planes go around 500 mph and she goes from the whitehouse to her apartment in the watergate. she goes 7 miles in probably 100 minutes of the film.

[@jsveterans6949]

uhmmm... Doesn't she 'grapple' lightening at one point? This movie is more holes then plot, so that seems fairly low on the "wtf" scale imho... But to each their own..

[@vincevvn]

@@jsveterans6949 exactly. I don’t know why more people aren’t point this out. People are so stupid.

[@user-jc7uz5lo3c]

Ummm what? We were not shown behind the scenes what she did next.

[@user-jc7uz5lo3c]

@@vincevvn And you are the smartest among all people. This is actually a matter of mindfulness, not intellect.

[@dominichines5984]

They'd be fine. She'd just lasso more lightning the rest of the way.

[@Spiceodog]

Nah, she’d have fired the missiles from the jet and then lassoed onto them cuz science

[@SoicAngellis]

Given the movie states the magic used to hide the plane is the same used to obscure Themyscira, it could be a spell that not only hides it from view, but also disrupts both scientific and mystical detection devices

[@catfwish]

It'd be funny if Matpat's hypotheses were actually acknowledged in a sequel and it's actually someone else's hand that saved the world or whatever, and WW was somehow covering up her repeated failures. That would make me laugh.

[@justsomeice9585]

Dc releases a movie with major travel* Matpat: “how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man”

[@kyledunn3747]

The one above me is a bot

[@ManiacMemes]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKnTlZ2fpq-pjc0 Idk why it’s so funny but it is lmfao

[@teo-kk7zk]

@@ManiacMemes don't click on the link above me ^

[@sighkick6938]

Next Wonder Woman theory: Diane's car wouldn't make it to Montenegro.

[@getmeouttahere1209]

More like her car wouldn’t make it to the moon

[@nedimmrsic2173]

Ma nema svajcarska ni australija, ono sto imamo draga ti i ja..

[@milanmarkovic2721]

@@nedimmrsic2173 to srce Balkansko i more Jadransko, svima cu pricati da ti moje leto si.

[@John-kd2tc]

I was thinking about this exact thing when I was watching. I thought Wonder Woman's stupidity will backfire later on.

[@wojciechficek616]

But then they would have to admit she was wrong. And that's not happening in that universe. Just like any negative consequences of her actions. Or basic logic.

[@RawrKatz]

4:34 it’s kinda nice to see acknowledgment of my small country

[@nabil.19]

They should hire this guy to watch movies and series before their released so he can make sure its all scientifically on point. 😂

[@mikeespi123]

All movies has scientific plotholes and it's unavoidable. They don't need to hire someone to make a movie's science perfect because it's never gonna happen. The imperfection of the science in the movies is part of the stories. Besides, most people don't actually care. The story, cgi effect, action scenes, and the acting is more important.

[@nabil.19]

@This is the way __ That was kind of the point. A movie doesn't like being made a meme

[@coolman7345]

If that was the case then pretty much every movie wouldn’t be as good as it is

[@nabil.19]

@LA Lakers RT Bruh, yall need to relax I made this comment as a joke

[@laurence7246]

What’s insane is that most likely they’ll all explain this with “it’s in another universe so everything is different so nothing in our world applies to there”

[@thatkyrptonianoverthere2833]

Probably not because at the end of the day, who cares? If every movie had it's transportation nitpicked like this, almost every movie would probably have a "plot hole" because at the end of the day what matters is the characters getting to their destination, not the specific details of how they got there. The only exception would be if the movie was literally about transportation.

[@damnfk063]

Just jumping in here to say that of the few things I know about comics. I do know that marvel is the alternate universe comics while DC takes place in our universe, technically

[@_adrian_9777]

Did anybody else notice when he was talking about air their was an air nomad symbol. Coincidence I think not

[@theoryboss7351]

Ok, crazy teacher man from the Incredibles....

[@razy4366]

Hey Mat Pat, I've been a sub for years and love your content and I don't usually like to nit pick but i wanted to point out that technically radar used radio yes which is technically a kind of light. For example infra red is not visible to the human eye but we can use it to see heat through materials like glass and even walls (some researchers were able to use a wifi based heat map of a area to locate a peraon through a wall) so since we don't know the full nature of wonder womans invisibility ability it is possible that it covers more then just the visible spectrum of light and allows sygnal like radar ro pass through. TLDR; Invisible plane could be invisible to radar and most other forms of detection available in that era. Thank you for reading my Ted talk. 😂

[@camil3545]

8:44 Pitch Guy: "Sir, A Plane is a Plane, are you implying a Plane is not a Plane? cuz a Plane is a Plane"

[@jsveterans6949]

Ha, someone commented about a WW1 pilot flying a 1980's plane, that was my reply too... Checkmate.

[@katierumlock6645]

Film Theory Episode in 2034: Why Diana’s domesticated moose in Wonder Woman 9 would not get her across Canada in time

[@dylangolden30]

Also: Why you can't domesticate a moose.

[@silentbasilisk3080]

As if DC could maintain a franchise for that long...

[@HumanoidCrearure]

12:48 This has to be best way to explain radar in one sentence, the way you say it is just too good.

[@RAZR_Channel]

KZbin is shitting on your channel... I've been a sub for years with notifications on and yet I have to search for and come directly to the channel to see videos.... WTF!

[@akaashgill8369]

Yet I accidentally went on a Logan Paul video and I get him recommend

[@m_artroom]

Same… I was I unsubbed from all his channels for some reason. I mean ig I get it if it’s just one channel that messed up but it was aall three of the theorist channels and no one else… kinda sus

[@Sportmanteau]

The fact that Rey ended up actually being a Palpatine too was hilarious

[@thebatintherat2603]

True probably the funniest moment in wonder woman

[@amazingmonke7395]

@@thebatintherat2603 bruh

[@ras3c1]

the thing is , matpat is telling it wrong here , it wasn`t "i said she was a palpatine , and then the last jedi said she was a nobody" he said she was a Solo , then the last jedi came out. he said that rey is a palpatine only a 3 months before rise of skywalker was released

[@runawaytrain2122]

The fact that rey stole the last name Skywalker was also too hilarious

[@DaScorpionSting]

They had no idea where they going with her origins before she was suppose to be related to Obi-Wan (idk how that would’ve worked) then they decided to have her be related to Papaltine.

[@mohammadshayanfazal6149]

Superhero movie: exists Mat pat: And I took that personally

[@jayvhoncalma3458]

He takes everything that any character from movie, cartoons,anime and game characters do very personally well what did you expect from a character assassin

[@namialus1376]

yes

[@KingSlayer_.]

Imagine mat pat in a live movie theater lol. "That's not how Gamma radiation works!! Disgusting!" ;) I love you mat pat

[@deazy6453]

Ugh. How is Geoff Johns such a great writer for comic books (well... Most of the time), but is also connected to some of the worst DC movies. I don't get it.

[@godspeed7192]

Hey @TheFilmTheorists I was wondering if you could crunch the numbers on the TOTAL AMOUNT OF PROPERTY DAMAGE for the battles in the MCU. I know that some 23 movies is a lot, so I’d be more expecting to see the big boys... all the avengers movies’ property damage total. It would be interesting to see the amount of both U.S. based damage as well as whatever other European and Global cost for the battles the avengers have fought. AND... could the stark relief foundation cover it all?

[@calebobico5419]

Movie comes out “Life is good.” Film theory comes out “But it can be better.”

[@HhHh-ev2zz]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKnTlZ2fpq-pjc0 Idk why it’s sOO fubny

[@LucyWest370]

@BILLIE SAYS DUH good f*cking lord this comments section is infested with bots

[@xanderberkelmans8053]

@@LucyWest370 whyyyy

[@july4378]

This bots are an F ING NIGHTMARE

[@Hello-ni1oy]

@@pineappleproductions5593 bot ಠ_ಠ

[@pallyboy6005]

Before watching: "I wonder if he's going to talk about the rape Wonder Woman did." After watching: "Ehh, didn't really apart from saying that it was kind of creepy to steal someone's body."

[@HhHh-ev2zz]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKnTlZ2fpq-pjc0 Idk why it’s sOO fubny

[@themichaelconnor42]

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that Though obviously the screenwriters weren't

[@MONi_LALA]

You know "women can't do r word" kind of logic

[@sophmumu]

she raped someone ??

[@potato-kw1er]

@@sophmumu depends on what happened the night she went to "Steve's" hosts house. Although I'm not completely sure that they were frisky. But basically what there saying is that if she did, to her its Steve but in reality it's someone random dude. So it would happen without his knowledge

[@michaelahunt4508]

The amount of SASS in this episode is going to fuel me for the next two whole weeks at college 😂🤣😂 thanks matpat! 😂

[@blueden168]

As far as I know, the fact that the jet got on the radar while on the runway in the first place is wrong because transponders don't turn on automatically. In a usual commercial flight there is a whole interaction between the pilot and ATC in which ATC provides the pilots with a sqwk code. The pilots then plug the sqwk code into the transponder and turn it on. So I doubt that Steve would have done that if he was trying to steal a plan, now you may ask if thats the case why is it hard to steal planes then? because planes in the real world arent invisible and commercial planes can be tracked by eyesight long enough for fighter jets to get in the air and surround it and fighter jets dont get stollen because of lots and lots of ground security(and ofc that goes for commercial planes too, just not as much as that for jets) at the end of the day they are military aircrafts afterall you can imagine the amount of security they have.

[@msac22]

I love how this movie makes no sense but at least mat pat is got a theory

[@worldcars2412]

*AUTO CARS is my inspiration 🖤!! My mom said that if I get 2k on my cover channel!! She will definitely buy me a professional mic! Every Support is APPRECIATED........*

[@jessicaa4901]

Yup. And at least some parts are so dumb they’re comical.

[@msac22]

@@jessicaa4901 lmao ikr

[@FoxyGuyHere]

It's like all comics. None of them make any sense.

[@LucyWest370]

@BILLIE SAYS DUH stfu bot

[@basixlena6706]

I asked myself all If these questions. The part where Steve can control a modern plane, I was like “Isn’t he from 1918??” And the radar scene and I was like “That’s not how It works”.

[@joaoramos8497]

But by it being invisible doesn't it mean that the radiation from the radar will pass through the plane?

[@booklover311]

@@joaoramos8497 No, because the plain has a physical presence despite being invisible. So radar will not pass through it. Matpat explained it in this video.

[@Mecharnie_Dobbs]

@@booklover311 But why are RADAR waves so different from light waves? What does "physical presence" have to do with this difference? He explained nothing. He just said stuff in a calm voice.

[@fanieljairtonjairton4234]

@@Mecharnie_Dobbs 13:22 The plane would still send radio as identification

[@joaoramos8497]

@@booklover311 yeah I got what he said. The thing is you see things because of the radiation that reflects from them. An object is transparent because the radiation passes through the object, therefore not reflecting it. Therefore I ask again, wouldn't the radiation from the radar pass through as well?

[@RobertJW]

Wonder Woman's invisibility conferring power pretty clearly works to subvert modern detection technology, since it's the same power that's kept Themiscyra hidden *this entire time*. Even discounting that on camera, and therefore canonically, the plane vanished from radar. This video was absolutely good enough without delving into whether the plane would be detectable or not.

[@AsifAAli]

You should do more of colabs with Ryan. I really enjoyed the Joker Pitch Meeting vide, and found your expressive self quite hilarious! 😂 So yeah, more of showing yourself in the video! 🙏

[@rohanshirodkar8353]

"The last thing I want to do is ruin the next movie by... I don't know, pointing out that Wonder Woman's rocket will never get into orbit" Movie writers- Write that down, write that down!

[@ChengTeoh]

"The Dreamstone" ... a lesser version of the "Infinity Gauntlet with all of the Gems" ... come at me y'all, lol ;)

[@spike120]

I enjoyed all your Detroit videos. Just wanted to let you know

[@AnonEMus-cp2mn]

All I could think about when watching WW84 was the phrase "Its a Wishing Rock!" back from trailers of the kids movie _Shorts (2009),_ then everything felt a lot more cheesy realizing both mcguffins were the same thing.

[@agentchaos9332]

Not even..at best it's a lesser version of the Reality stone

[@cambrown5633]

It would just be the reality stone

[@wyattpetelle9815]

@@veryhot6284 uh what does that video have to do with this comment???

[@tncreations1267]

Really love that intro!

[@Gmatodd]

You guys need to do one on Wanda-Vision. There is definitely some weird lore going on and it needs some explanations!!!

[@fantazm3729]

it need an another series to explain every thing

[@calebmaker6225]

@@fantazm3729 Yea Wanda-Vision is definitely something Matpat should hop on, literal theory jackpot.

[@ninjanibba4259]

Wish granted

[@sreycool]

wish granted

[@animallover5843]

your wish came true

[@cheapshot7442]

I don’t remember Wonder Woman having the ability to turn things invisible

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

Really? She did it in the first movie too. Don’t you remember? She made her personality disappear. GOTTEM

[@Ringohulk777]

@@dearthofdoohickeys4703 oof. gotten indeed

[@Yuri98]

Well, she's "half-Zeus". If Zeus can turn an entire island invisible, sure she can do the same to a small jet.

[@andrewkippenhan5494]

@@Yuri98 I thought Zeus's ability was to pretend everyone's consent was invisible...so I guess Diana didn't fall far from THAT tree!

[@omarcaballero2011]

@@andrewkippenhan5494 lmao tru tru

[@akaguda8680]

MatPat here's a theory: Where natsu really draw his strength? Not the whole power of frienshship thing

[@thirdplanet4471]

Only thing l can think of is adrenaline, magic and going to the gym

[@dinozavier]

I have never seen a Wonder Woman movie and have no plans to watch them in the near future. Thank you for teaching me about planes this was really interesting

[@jasongeorgiou4620]

Matpat: The only one having access to the movie is HBO max Pirates: Hold my rum

[@veryhot6284]

Ohhhhh.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gp-mpJ2prcyJqpo

[@Chad_Darwin]

@@veryhot6284 no stop no one care

[@Sluzyyyyyyy]

Man said “rum” 💀

[@blahthebiste7924]

@@Chad_Darwin Just report them next time

[@sombramemer1230]

Access, HAHAHAHA. We are PIRATES, We don't even know what that means.

[@anonymousnoone7035]

So what you're saying is: They really should have just gone with her flying power in the movies.

[@lachlann4335]

Sounds like a better solution

[@shehnamansoor4270]

@@lachlann4335 yes

[@HeilRay]

Yeah the stealing US military plane thing was even more unrealistic. They dont leave planes full of gas like that, one of the main procedures is draining fuel for full maintenance, let alone having the fuel tank full to fly across a freakin ocean? They may as well ride a bicycle to Egypt from America, it makes the same amount of sense.

[@DarkWolf-fg9dr]

And for that reason, it still wouldn't matter that much... cuz the "wish stone" was taking away her powers.

[@jaythreekay9668]

spoiler: instead (per the movie) the conversation they had in the jet was vital for her to manifest flight power later...

[@smartwater9926]

Why do I hear Maine on here so much? DON'T STOP I LOVE IT (I live in Maine, and I usually don't hear it mentioned on KZbin on it a lot)

[@HelloIAmAnExist]

I feel so proud of myself for actually thinking about the radar not working like they say it does and the jet being able to get them that far. I'm a mini theorist😄

[@orionthekat]

I have literally read fanfictions with more research and effort put into them than the average hollywood movie smh

[@kestrelliddel6962]

Same. And they have better plots too

[@hellothere5871]

Matpat: They travel in one plane trip to Cairo Egypt." Me who hasn't seen the movie: *DIO?!?*

[@BETMARKonTube]

OH MY GOOOOOOD!!!

[@usernamesarestupid7104]

I'm never going on a plane with you again old man

[@hellothere5871]

@@BETMARKonTube YES, I AM!

[@argenta7658]

One of the few times I saw a part 3 reference, and laughed. Not that I don’t like the part, it’s just that the new, obnoxious fans use part 3 references a lot.

[@mr_doomspire2813]

@@argenta7658 yuppp