Film Theory: There's Blood on Captain America's Hands

[@comicfan1324]

Sam: “Do Better.” Governor: “Okay? How?” MatPat: “I got this.”

[@AxxLAfriku]

I don't have any friends because they are ashamed of the videos I upload. Are they really that bad, dear co

[@draked.uchiha3339]

Lmfao

[@timdadwagan]

Matpat: Sam you do better at inspiring people

[@malihashamsuddin3084]

One day, in a not so distant future, there shall be a theory man cameo in a marvel movie featuring mat pat

[@colin3ds1]

Matpats wrong We need to eat the rich

[@Loki-sk8ji]

The theory where Bucky is a millionaire, just sounds hilarious and genius

[@junepiie]

AAAAAHHHH‼‼‼‼

[@zarl-1368]

@Simon Says its owo who he talked about

[@justvibin3646]

You stole the name from OwO It's *treason,* then

[@gdnu14]

OwO

[@Loki-sk8ji]

@@justvibin3646 its a joke

[@MidoriOfTheShuinsen]

This whole issue is why I honestly despised the whole "let's bring everybody back" idea. Even leaving alone the logistics... What about the people who came back after being dead for half a decade to find their families moved on? Their spouses remarried, their children grown up? What happens then?

[@theapproachingstorm2133]

Yeah they just weren't thinking when they decided to do that. Just couldn't let things be as they were had to find a way to retcon yet another major plot device to make room for the next shitty one

[@ShortHax]

I feel like MatPat is going to make another channel called The Economic Theorists where he’ll be held hostage by Shiba Inu instead of the FNAF animatronics

[@Countingfandoms]

Feel like this comment deserves an actual person. Not just bots Also, totally agree with you- edit: misspelled autocorrect…

[@mynameisjoedahand3008]

I bet you guys 300 cookies that this verified person has between 100k-300k subscribers before I even check.

[@kicksyo2171]

Honestly might be interesting

[@Joe_.]

Yes

[@mynameisjoedahand3008]

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[@You]

So basically Bucky is madly rich (not rlly) and Mat didn’t want to make a full video about it yet and just threw it in for fun, I love these videos 🤑

[@luigidogxd]

i think he didnt make a full video about it because bucky wasnt actually madly rich

[@CommanderNova]

The Barnes family was wealthy, but we don't see what happened to that wealth.

[@sjahbw]

Unhhunmhu

[@rileychoi5284]

Bucky can just sell the arm it’s worth so much

[@raemmio2761]

@@luigidogxd f do

[@joelvannatta3266]

The biggest problem that phase 4 introduces is the fact that the Avengers blipped back half the universe without giving the world (or the rest of the universe) any notice whatsoever.

[@OgreManGaming]

I’m glad to see that this is getting a video. I have to be honest, Sam being like “be better” felt a lot more like Disney just admitting that they don’t know how the problem should be solved

[@sfsin3380]

That what happens when your entire story has to be written after you've started filming. While info on the original plot was is spotty it wasn't what we got.

[@Truman5555]

Well, they know the solution......they just don't want it. Because it would hurt thier profits!!!!!

[@charlesevanshughes3638]

The irony is that all of it could have been averted had the Avengers not snapped everybody back immediately. If they had instead told the world that they had the means to bring everybody back, then the world could have prepaired for everyone's return. Double the food output and build a large amount of emergency shelters in the span of a few months, and then he return wouldn't be nearly as hard on the global economy. Sure, Thanos would have popped up before any of that could have happened, but it's not like the Avengers knew that when they made their decision.

[@HuneeBruh]

you owe me 1800 geo sly

[@timross5351]

This is exactly the point; there is no perfect solution. But there are better solutions.

[@spencerrobinson7380]

As shown in CA: the first avenger, Bucky actually was doing very well for himself. In comparison to Steve he has a suit, and mentions a car while Steve is just scraping by. Bucky came from a very well off family and I want to know what that money would look like today.

[@KRYMauL]

Bucky's "suit" was a military uniform, bro.

[@sogekingsimp2469]

His 3 dollars he spent on a girl just to win her a stuffed prize would be around $50 today. He'd be fucking rich. Especially since we can presume he's working with the military or government im some way since he strolls into their private property and hangers and nobody cares

[@PieKSER]

@@sogekingsimp2469 I’m sure Bucky can sneak into a military base 😂

[@sogekingsimp2469]

@@PieKSER he didn't sneak, he walked through the front door and people saw him but didn't care

[@sogekingsimp2469]

@@PieKSER he can definitely sneak in though since the military in the MCU has done close to nothing 😂

[@alexandermyers811]

I'm really impressed with Matt for taking on such a powerful topic and actually being real about it. Platitudes like "Be Better" make for great sound bites but don't help. We do a phenomenal job these days of pointing out problems endlessly, but it's crickets when it comes to real solutions. Thanks for this video!

[@Hulkitout]

If the whole world disappeared and couldn't "do better" and assist the returned then the world is truly corrupt as we set are own rules and saying we have short comings economicly would be corrupt ideals at best

[@TheDeathmail]

The point was that they should think of both sides.... They didn't... They were planning on throwing millions of people under the bus... Not thinking of both sides was a problem... I will admit that they could have stated it better... But they were only focusing on a single side...

[@jathikka2046]

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[@Ermespsi]

But what "real solution" does the video offer? It essentially says "be better" to common people rather than influential politicians, I think it's an even worse take than Sam's

[@caidentheginger5637]

Yo

[@supergamertale]

There was a reason on why it felt a bit chopped up, that's because it was. There was supposed to be a side-story about a pandemic, but Marvel cut that due to, well, the pandemic still being around when the show aired.

[@wasian588]

On the whole Bucky getting rich thing. He never was officially discharged from the army (because the army thought he died) so the army would owe him back pay for every year since 1942 and what they owed would be whatever the pay scale is for sergeant in those years. So he’d be owed a lot of money

[@Kirkmaximus]

Nope. This is the federal government your talking about. They will find ANY excuse to stop your pay. Trust me. I'm a veteran who has worked with a lot of veterans in need of a disability check. Being found to be a Russian agent would also be held against Bucky (even though it was forcefully done to him.)

[@mr.boomguy]

@@Kirkmaximus Big oof!

[@jormungandr1818]

Was the money converted to today's money? If not we are looking at a lot more

[@mcarrowtime7095]

@@jormungandr1818 he’d probably have been docked pay for all the damages he’s caused, including killing mr stark and stealing 5 separate packs of super soldier serum, something the govt isn’t going to be happy about

[@guccifer764]

@@mcarrowtime7095 Lol, i like the idea that in response to assassination and theft of government property, all he’d get is a docked pay.

[@jimwinship7159]

You have a problem with Bucky. He “missing presumed dead.” His pay stops there. His parents would get his $25,000 government life insurance and his account would be closed. Now, if he were declared “missing presumed dead” his benefits would continue to grow for seven years. At that point, with no further evidence of him being alive, his payouts would be made and he’s back to zero. But let’s sat he is just declared missing. The minute he took up arms against the US, he loses everything. So no matter how you slice it, he broke.

[@jameson1239]

I’m also not sure a bank would keep a an account active for 78 years especially if it’s not being used

[@thewinterjule]

But no one knew who the Winter Soldier was until Civil War (since Steve didn’t run around telling people after WS). So I think the situation is more fuzzy since he’d probably be assumed dead before they found out he was brainwashed and made into the Winter Soldier bc it’s a bit presumptuous to assume he’s still alive after not returning to the states after 70~ years and being in his late 90s

[@vorlun2594]

He's then brainwashed anw So maybe no pay at all whatsoever

[@arby796]

The Captain America museum in Winter Soldier said that he was the only Howling Commando that gave his life, so he wasn't declared missing.

[@AINamedthis]

He could pawn or ebay that arm.

[@dr.plasma233]

Theory: over the many seasons of icarly, the crew has done a fair amount of not very legal things that could have gotten them in a lot more trouble than they should, stealing, breaking an entering, sending a doorman to the hospital. How many years would the icarly gang have to serve by all the crimes they committed? Also HAPPY 10 MILLION SUBS been here for years and love your videos

[@Batmannotbrucewayne]

I really wonder what went into your head to think of this

[@piikle8804]

This deserves its own theory vid @The Film Theorists

[@denisepeifer21]

good idea

[@Batmannotbrucewayne]

@@vxltagefr hahaha?

[@vanconojl]

xD

[@Welcometotherox]

Re: your maths for how rich Bucky was, it would depend on whether the army would be willing to consider him a POW for his time captured and under the control of HYDRA. A soldier held as a POW would be entitled to any back pay, pension and reasonable rank increases that would have been earned during the period held. There's still a reasonable argument for Bucky being rich - but only if the Army decides to play ball.

[@stevenscott2136]

Isn't Bucky working for T'Challa now? That should provide a pretty comfortable income.

[@alexanderzack3720]

but wouldn´t the army/country have him declared dead since they thought he died in the war? meaning no pay and whatever he had in his bank account up to then would be distributed according to his will (if he had one)

[@chrisvossler8795]

You might want to look into the numbers again on how much Bucky would have now. I forget which law it is, but I'm pretty sure soldiers who are either POWs or MIA are compensated on their return based on the assumption that they had been in military service (and given the appropriate promotions) for the entire period they were missing. So both Steve and Bucky would have received a pretty substantial amount of back pay after being MIA in the ice and a POW of Hydra respectively.

[@7Seraphem7]

Pretty sure there was even a Cap storyline about this at one point. Congress decided that that law applies to Cap and so gave him all his back pay, but in the process ruled that since they were paying him, he now worked directly for the Government, leading to one of the times Steve gave up being Captain America since he disagreed with what they were asking him to do.

[@aguy2162]

Wouldn't matter. As MatPat said about the blipped people, they do not hold the assets of dead people. Bucky's assests wouldve gone to next of kin or claimed in some way. Funny MatPat didnt catch that, seeing as how he used that as the premise for his point about the blipped

[@jakewiththecake2915]

@@aguy2162 Steve had no next of kin so no one could claim his money and the gov could seize it but after he came back they’d have to give it to him I’m not sure about Bucky though.

[@rishabhraj9859]

Also factor in the cost of his Vibranium Arms.

[@chrisvossler8795]

@@aguy2162 It's actually 2 different circumstances. The difference is that these aren't assets held indefinitely for a dead soldier (those would have gone to his next of kin); this is wages paid retroactively to an MIA serviceman. IIRC this exact scenario has played out several times, particularly during and after the Vietnam War.

[@witweg4891]

But you also have to remember that falcon in the Winter soldier was originally going to be about a virus and I think the flags Masters were trying to steal the cure for the homeless people so the reason that it doesn't make that much sense it feels rushed is because of the pandemic they had to basically in a way rewrite the whole thing in fear of people having a negative response to the original plot.

[@MrRafalel]

this dunno the script but probably it would have made sense if they showed the GRC as bad or at least grey. or the flagsmasher were the one with the virus and they were not anti-heroes but full on evil. either way the show suffered heavely from the reworks.

[@littlebitfix4511]

Lol

[@witweg4891]

@@MrRafalel agreed

[@Vince_Lasal]

This makes sense and it sounds reasonable enough for me to believe it’s true. However, they still published it like this which means it’s canon (at least until retconned somewhere down the line) and it’s fair game to question it and poke holes at it. They could’ve pushed the show back and said they had to work on the show some more, but they were happy with the product. So that is not an excuse they can use (imo).

[@MrRafalel]

@@Vince_Lasal totally right. It's a reason for it being bad. Not an excuse.

[@helmuthelmlos5067]

the big problem in the "how rich is bucky" theory: he is officaly dead, so there is no money to grow intrest, when he "comes back from the dead" he is someone without a single dime.

[@emanuelrojas2]

Dead account equals no interest

[@dname9394]

Not only that i dont think matt made adjustment for inflation

[@helmuthelmlos5067]

@@dname9394 there is not inflation adjustment for existing money. if you have 1$ in 1944 and keep that 1$ bill until today it is still just 1$. inflation means that there is so much 1$ bills, thet you can buy less with the same amount of bills. this is why in our current finacial situation (since 2008) saving koney is useless because you dont get any intrest but inflation is still there. so me having 5$ now and me having 5$ in 10 years means that in 10 years i am poorer then now.

[@SamGarcia]

It has to go to probate first before a bank can close a deceased person's account

[@dname9394]

@@helmuthelmlos5067 okay, makes sense, prob should havr applied logic there lol. Thanks for correction

[@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble]

I kinda equate the whole "Do better" thing to the steak analogy. Lets say your at a restaurant and you order a steak, you take a bite and decide you don't like it. You then complain to the waiter and you tell them "This steak is terrible, you need to do better". Naturally the waiter say's "Of course sir, what can we do to make it better for you" and your answer is "He's the chef, he should figure it out"

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

That's ridiculous. The chef needs to know WHY it was bad, or there's nothing they can do to improve it. If it was too salty and you just tell him to "do better", how do you think you're gonna get a less salty steak?

[@dathanchevli7514]

@@NoMoreBsPlease yes..... that was the entire point of the video...

[@omegaman3004]

@@NoMoreBsPlease Well…that’s kinda the point. That’s why he said that it was an analogy to the video.

[@OK-yy6qz]

@@NoMoreBsPlease that's the point. Sam is asking the politician to do better on a complex problem he doesn't even begin to understand.

[@zoexo9268]

@@OK-yy6qz that’s true, but also, sam says “WE need to do better” essentially saying what mattpatt did at the end of the video. sams speech was saying “we need to do better and help each other” not “you need to fix this global problem right now because you’re the government”

[@ImDemonAlchemist]

Bucky was also considered killed in action, I would imagine that would result in some kind of benefits or something for his next of kin, right? Also, I don't think any bank would keep an account open for 78 years of inactivity.

[@ImDemonAlchemist]

@Thermo Beats Do we know what happened to Bucky's parents?

[@lilithlu929]

@Thermo Beats its kinda strange that soldiers during war would leave nothing similar to a will before going to the frontlines?

[@ElderAleks]

@@lilithlu929 the goal is to comeback alive though. Expect the worst, hope for the best, but understand something in the gray area will happen.

[@Cr0ftyTV]

@Thermo Beats Sounds about right. I don't think it's mentioned in the movies but Comic Bucky lost his parents at a young age.

[@santzerosantone]

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[@josevlog945]

That beginning part is something straight out of a Futurama episode where Fry had 5 cents but then because of interest he was RICH

[@ceilinh6004]

To be fair, compound interest had a little longer to work for Fry.

[@Retro_Red]

@@ceilinh6004 Yeah, almost 10x as long

[@jordoruiz0001]

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[@giovannidimaio659]

WHAT KIND OF PLACE IS THIS COMMENT SECTION

[@ceilinh6004]

@@giovannidimaio659 The bots live here, apparently.

[@AnnoyingMoose]

Film Theory idea that I hope makes the cut: theatre owners consider a movie a success if they can sell a lot of popcorn with it. Is there any correlation between the content of a movie and how much the concession sells? Maybe MatPat could do a Food Theory crossover episode and compare different snacks with different movies (Marvel movie with popcorn, Rom-Coms with Raisinettes, etc.).

[@alagonthesnail]

i dont know if there's a way to get the data, or change it by yourself, or with a group of people, i guess if you can do better and figure it out

[@pastorgainz7230]

Its funny that Sam was so quick to blame the politicians like "Be better" i woulda said "its you heroes that failed us 1st, if you DID BETTER against Thanos this wouldn't even be a problem."😂

[@WandererSociety]

You forget they ain’t immortal. And both sides had weakness it’s just that the avengers had abbot more

[@joshentertainment2]

I think it is dumb that they made Sam broke

[@shanryder]

Yeah, no. The military is what is supposed to protect us. Not independents.

[@connorrich6614]

@@shanryder in the MCU the sokovia accords grant the avengers and heroes, not responsible but make them the clear protection system against battles regular humans can’t win

[@shanryder]

@@connorrich6614 Oh, I'm sorry. Did you see the United Nations ever call them onto the scene? No. None of the heroes should have put up any kind of defense then.

[@michaeltuffy6625]

There’s actually a pretty big flaw in MatPat’s theory here, and that’s in regards to the reappearing people themselves. Matt takes examples from real world inflationary economics that increase the total in-market currency without any major change in population. After the snap is when the globe would have experienced the most inflation, since the number of bank notes would remain the same but the population was cut in half, meaning there is twice as many notes-per-person in the market now, halving their value. Unsnapping everyone would actually cause radical deflation, which is also very dangerous, and the mass production of currency to counter that effect would be necessary. Think of it this way: if you have one diamond and 2 people, or 5 diamonds and 10 people, in both scenarios the diamond is worth the same, since the supply is 50% of demand. However if you have those same 5 diamonds and suddenly only 5 people, the demand plummets but the supply remains the same. A global effort to compensate and re-house the unsnapped would be the largest step the GRC could take to avoid an economic collapse, not cause one.

[@timross5351]

Good point; the GRC is going to have to relocate and rehouse *somebody*. But the point is not that they weren't doing things perfectly for everyone with no flaws or even that such a thing is possible. The point is that they should have done better: tried to make people like Karli feel that an acceptable solution was being worked toward, so they don't despair and become terrorists, because they figure they are going to die either way.

[@nathanorwick3671]

From this analogy, it sounds like pumping money into the system would be necessary immediately after the snap, since the demand per unit of supply is halved. However, the opposite of what is described in your analogy is what happens when the population doubles. Now, demand per unit of supply is doubled, meaning prices increase, which would constitute inflation

[@MrRafalel]

I don't think we ever REALLY thought about the snap, otherwise it would break all immersion in the MCU. he started the theory from the blip not the snap. and accepting that whatever happened before already brought the market to a balanced state

[@nicholasmullins3693]

@@MrRafalel ... The blip is simply what they called the snap in universe. He's not saying that the world was fixed before half the people disappeared, he's saying it was fixed after they disappeared.

[@kantik97]

Yeah and also change from 3.5 bilion people to 7. doesn t make this 3,5 half homless, jobles. No one gona waste free time do destroy half on New York people after thanos snap would go to better neighborhoods that all. Jobs are a problem but restaurants have more people to feed, hair dressers have more people to cut. Yeah priceses can be a problem for blipers but people in camp refugees camps can make some $ form other refugees, yeah change is sudden but after a year some % would find a job becase there is twice as much demand for ur services and products (coca cola has to make twice as much crap and so on). Big problem is Energy and food. Food is esier u can just make huge tax on meat industry to keep that green stuff to people. Energy would be harder. NOT ENG :(

[@perezo27]

"Why don't we print money?" *me, from fucking Argentina, 5th country in the world with most inflation*: Don't do that "Well, there's a big problem: inflation." *me, relieved MatPat wasn't gonna perpetuate the idiotic print money idea*: Thank god

[@MalikSmith774]

Lmao I know right, I'm an Econ major and I'm glad he mentioned the Federal Reserve, inflation and hyperinflation

[@bobwaltz4651]

He's too smart for that, sadly alot pf people think money is free and just "pay everything" for the solution

[@dustinjones7458]

@@bobwaltz4651 Hate to be the elitist in the comment section, but that's why you don't let stupid people make economic policy.

[@guidofalconi1178]

Printing money can cause inflation, but the level of inflation we are seeing even here in the US does not match the economists predictions. Everyone is talking about inflation, but what everyone also fails to mention is that it is a much lower rate than traditional economics would dictate. As it would turn out printing money alone may not cause inflation, rather how that money is spent is what might dictate it. So no, printing money isn’t an idiotic idea, it’s just not a feasible idea for every economy.

[@perezo27]

@@guidofalconi1178 Yes but no. Printing alone causes inflation, and it's a terrible idea for basically every country in the world. Except for the US...kind of. The advantage the US has is that it's the US. Your currency is the most used one across the globe, so you don't feel as heavily the effects of inflation as you should, the devaluation of your currency, cause everyone still wants and needs US Dollars. However, if the printing keeps going for a considerable period of time, there's gonna be a time when US Dollars are no longer the most wanted and used, cause there's so many of them. Basically, it's still a bad idea, but you have a lot more breathing room than basically any other nation. And the video, while talking about the US and Cap, the Blip and the issues that the show talked about, would affect the world. So yeah, don't print money.

[@MrJamess1982]

Your potential theory falls apart upon Bucky’s assumed death. His money would have all gone to his next of kin. Even when he would have been found alive years later. That money would be gone and probably spent.

[@Humanzzz]

That's why it was gone

[@joshuacarre06]

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[@joshuacarre06]

Did bucky have a child?

[@Ananaskaneli]

I was going to come to comment the same

[@greg5494]

Don’t listen to this hater Matthew, he is incredibly incorrect and he needs to actually listen to your points before he goes off and makes a fool of himself

[@rickrogan2355]

Can you imagine all the people who died on the operator's table because the doctors disappeared?

[@dafilmqueen556]

Oh no, too many problems!

[@Tyranid_HiveMind]

Or if the patient is blipped

[@randomperson8375]

Matpat: "there's no rewind button" Meanwhile, in the Marvel Universe: "Time Stone exists that can literally be used to rewind time"

[@sarahvanrooyen7280]

Yep

[@petermarsella6537]

There's no rewind button. There is a rewind stone, of course

[@nathanieldiaz5254]

That stone is no longer available. In case you forgot.

[@HK47_115]

You mean the stones they stole from another timeline that doesn't belong to them? Or the ones that are destroyed and no longer accessible? Do you see the problem with that? Heck, they say that that was basically the same universe as Tiny as work that way out of the attic, BS it that shouldn't have work. They're basically using Infinity sound from a different version of the exact same universe. Even then, they still don't have access to it.

[@robtastic9899]

And you got the time machines too

[@ScenicFights]

Matt you need to make some more Economic Theory videos.

[@FarazKhan0820]

Hello Internet! Welcome to Economic Theory! The show that ties your favorite games and movies to real world problems!

[@bl4z3ninja57]

Shut up

[@MommaMolly]

He needs to learn economics first.

[@MommaMolly]

@@ijiikieru that is a ultra one perspective on economics and it gets a lot wrong.

[@tropiccheekss]

@@MommaMolly right? hes not exactly qualified and ditto what you said

[@Slothptimal]

I'd love to see the other side of this, where you analyze the exact impact of a "society" when Thanos snaps. What really happens when half the cops, half the bureaucrats, half the taxi dispatchers, half the pilots, half the construction crews disappear in the world? is 5 years really fast enough to put the world back together?

[@Smileyreal]

You could also consider the possibility that it was not an exact split in every group, the entire population of China could've been a part of the 3.5 billion that disappeared

[@MrRafalel]

just a quick reminder: it isn't half of each job. it should tend to that percentage, but it's totally not assured for two reasons: some jobs have more people than others, let's just say for example that the number of pilots can't be the same (and infact is probably half) that of the flight attendants. meaning that it's totally possible that all the pilots got snapped. second: since the snap halved the population caring only about the male/female ratio. it could happen that some jobs, especially those with a higher discrepancy on the male/female ratio got fully snapped. for example almost all nurses are females, but the teacher is a 50/50 male/female job. so it could happen that all the nurses are snapped, and only the male teacher got snapped. just the first two problems I see with the snap, I could find way more. Let's just say I don't believe the world would be that good after 5 years

[@chrisandrews9856]

@@Smileyreal this was my thought almost exactly, how much, in %, would each country lose to the blip? Some countries might end up as near as or better off than before.

[@theneoreformationist]

And the pregnant women.....

[@garrettviewegh677]

If Thanos could see how the snap affected Earth, especially after half of all life was brought back, he probably would have realized he was wrong. It least with Earth. Planets all across the universe were affected by the snap, not just Earth. So other worlds may have been better off until half of their population suddenly came back. Now, not so much. Depends on what world you lived on and the conditions/circumstances.

[@kanedaku]

Sidenote: remember that they cut the series down from 9 eps to 6, and cut out the whole pandemic plot which is why they needed the medicine, due to **cough** **cough** things. I think Sam's speech at the end was changed because of that to the slapdash monologue.

[@devonthurgood9381]

So glad you covered this topic. It felt a little draining to hear a lot of people praise Sam's "Do Better" speech after the finale like it was some kind of revolutionary idea.

[@sunwukong32]

You're hanging around the wrong people, my guy

[@Flaris]

Makes sense though. It appeals to the desire to just "stick it" to people in positions of power. Probably the same effect within that universe as with the general audience. A pretty speech that was completely hollow, but sounds really nice to the ears so it gets praise.

[@blakederby3932]

@@Flaris So what, do you want Sam, a superhero doing his job, to do the politicians job for him by holding his hand and telling him every single thing that needs to be fixed and how to do it?

[@candiegray4037]

@@blakederby3932 after reading the comment section of this video, it seems most do. It's like the idea of superheros has been completely warped in people's head, and I blame Marvel for it. Marvel loves making hero's ex soldiers or employees of secret government agencies, when really they're supposed to be vigilantes working to save people from the injustices the politicians create in the first place...

[@blakederby3932]

@@candiegray4037 Thank you, at least someone get it.

[@natereath4966]

I think this is a great place for Dr doom to make an appearance, as the ruler of the country of latveria which was created during the five years between the two snaps. There would now be problems in his country that he would most likely blame the avengers for. It would give the character depth as well as making a marvel villian have beef with someone other than Tony stark for a change.

[@Ironcabbit]

Perhaps the Snap led to Doom’s mother damning her own soul, which led to him being him.

[@KRYMauL]

@@Ironcabbit Yeah, maybe make it so that his father was blipped and his mother blipped herself. Then Doom in his anger decided that he would create a Gypsy nation.

[@unicornbarfingrainbows7599]

Maybe Laveria was one of the countries that absorbed Slovkia (Wanda’s home country, Zemo mentions it no longer existing because other countries absorbed it in AOU). F4 is already announced for the mcu.

[@tingle-tainmentasmr2404]

In so glad someone else felt like it was rushed. Everyone was telling me I was crazy, but I thought it was just randomly packed with too much information.

[@mohamedamin-vl3wu]

Also they allegedly deleted all scenes of a major plotline in the show involving an airborne virus after covid 19 pandemic came in real life so that also could be the caee.

[@bbworks159]

I love the show. In fact it’s probably my favorite MCU show, but it definitely needed more time. Maybe even an episode to show how the Flag Smashers got the raw deal.

[@teddycat7218]

@@bbworks159 I just rewatched alot of marvel shows, and yea TFATWS is one of my favs, mainly because Bucky's gets more screen time. It was a little rushed

[@Pulsarnix]

I actually thought this while watching the episode, the politics in the show were handled a lot better than some other shows and did try to be balanced and the world of the MCU is different to the real world now, but some of it still didn't quite sit right with me. However, as Matpat said, his speech does still resonate with me.

[@BYERE]

The problem I have with your calculations for how much money Bucky has is that you're calculating how much he would have if EVERY PENNY of what he earned in those months was put in a bank account. I'm pretty sure some of that money would have gone towards living expenses, or at least would have been spent on some luxuries of one kind or another. (I get that he'd be at the barracks, food would be provided, etc, but I'm sure that not ALL of the money would just go into a bank account)

[@tylanmckinney8988]

He was trying to give a maximum cap of how much money he would have. Even if Bucky had (unrealistically) saved every penny, he still wouldn't have a ton. That's the only point Matt was trying to make.

[@anthonydixon9220]

But would that money stay in the bank after such supposed death?

[@theslimeshiba5506]

The other problem was not including inflation. It would’ve been better if he made it an S&P500 index which is 7% after inflation per year.

[@neku2741]

oh wow its just a throwaway joke in the beginning dude relax

[@12_Bitcat]

@@tylanmckinney8988 His brain is very huge, and he must let people know.

[@britanimations2002]

I get the theory, even if I don't agree. My own interpretation of do better is that Falcon doesn't know how to fix these problems, he says so himself, his point is that everyone in the series has their own stuff to work on and do better with. The Government need to communicate with the people and at least try to find a more peaceful solution to their problem, the Flagsmashers need to find a less violent method to bring their message across, (although probably not since most of them are dead now) even the main characters need to find ways of bettering themselves, Bucky needs to reach out to Yori and tell own up about what he did to his son, (which he does, so yay Bucky for beginning his journey) John Walker, kinda self explanatory and even Sam feels beaten up that he couldn't do better for Karli, the woman who died in his arms. What most of those have in common is that they all involve people doing what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning, sit down and talk. As corny as it sounds, the point is that there are problems with no easy answers, even the writers don't know the right answers, but the best way to find them is if we work together to solve them, to talk to the people instead of going all in with one solution that will hurt so many people. I also get how my reasoning sounds all sunshine and rainbows, I know that no matter what they do someone, some group of people will probably be effected negatively, I'm just sure that with cooperation the people of the world could find a way that satisfied most, because when you have a struggle that effects the whole world you'd need everyone to fight it together. But ignore all that because it's just a mirror of our world and while we'll never experience anything this unsolvable irl, we can sure work to make life better if we band together.

[@anakinskywalker8262]

Home boy wrote a whole essay

[@jgeybp]

Man. Mad props for your comment my guy. I don’t usually read long comments but I haven’t been this interested on MatPat’s videos for awhile now. Good job constructing what all you said really understandable.

[@androssteague]

I can't believe I just read all that.

[@maddogkilla1]

Tl;dr

[@maddogkilla1]

@@jgeybp lmao you were able to comprehend that cluster f of a thought?

[@jaykeredmond9002]

Honestly I think a really cool Film Theory would be to calculate “which MCU Avenger caused the most deaths.” My bets would be on Captain America 🤷‍♂️

[@LilMommaSunshine7]

Iron Man. Tony stark the weapons dealer + creator of Ultron...

[@maddogkilla1]

Wasnt that what ther movie age of ultron was about with the sokovia accords?

[@ishamitra678]

Its stark

[@AllDenmarkIsAPrison]

Stark was an arms dealer and a billionaire and you can't be either of those without hurting, killing, and/or exploiting his employees. there's no way it's not Stark.

[@bjjjccec]

@@AllDenmarkIsAPrison indirect causation

[@durak4371]

15:55 I gotta say that was the best simplified explanation like. Ever.

[@AMoniqueOcampo]

You do realize that Bucky would have been declared dead after the train scene, so he wouldn't have been able to get compound interest. I love Falcon and the Winter Soldier though.

[@lionheartx-ray4135]

Well he was Captured so he could collect on all the back pay during the time he spent captive. Plus he would be elidable for promotions while captured.

[@_Fizel_]

@@lionheartx-ray4135 But they he was dead. So the money would have went to family. So the point is moot.

[@somerandominternetuser5730]

@@lionheartx-ray4135 no? He was declared KIA, so that money wouldn't be his anymore

[@Nolabray21]

@@_Fizel_his family is dead I thought that was confirmed in the first captain America thats why him and steve are super close

[@_Fizel_]

@@Nolabray21 Honestly I have not seen the recent movies or know much about the backstories. I was just pointing out that Bucky would have been presumed dead and thus no money or promotion would have been available at all to him when he came back.

[@sethfeldpausch4337]

THANK YOU! You addressed all of my gripes with this show! It’s not bad, but it was clearly rushed due to the pandemic! Also they cut half the plot out because it contained a pandemic plot, so there’s a lot of context we’ll never get!

[@totallynameless8861]

Oh, really? That sucks; I hope we get to see those plots in future Marvel movies.

[@four-en-tee]

So what you're saying is that its a bad show. A rushed story is often going to be a weak story.

[@sethfeldpausch4337]

@@four-en-tee I’m not saying it’s bad, because there are good elements to it, but it ends up being really meh because it was so rushed. So far all the Marvel tv shows have had really cool premises, that Disney somehow screws up because they rush them out instead of delaying the project!

[@lga9436]

The “Goodwill” happened in the Philippines. When the government no longer provided enough cash allowance or support, each community set up a pantry, where people donate by just leaving it at a random set-up without anyone guarding, or managing. Farmers from the Provinces, headed to the city and left sacks of vegetables and fruits, the privileged ones, left canned goods even cash donations, and even the poor people even went to leaving a few goods that they could give for other people. The people who needed it, just lined up and take goods, that they think they need for the day. And it all started because one woman left a table and supplies, a cardboard signage with a message “Take what you need, and leave some for others” and it became a cycle. It went to a barter type of give and take. What you don’t need, give away, and take what you need in the set-up.

[@Truman5555]

This also goes by Mutual Aid. Also as : " From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

[@dan_loup]

@@Truman5555 As soon you create a seat with power, an absolute asshole will sit on it and ruin everything. Capitalism when it actually work it's because the fierce competition makes no seat have too much power, but as soon you let seats with more power to appear, everything gets ruined.

[@shadowofhawk55]

That kind of system sounds good on paper, and may work in some cases, but people very commonly fail account for the natural evil of mankind. All it takes is one asshole taking more than their fair share and suddenly the whole system collapses. Unless, of course, you use force to organize who gets what. But then, who decides how much of something a person gets? These kinds of altruistic ideas work on the tribal level but on a scale to do real good would only lead to more violence and suffering.

[@nyehu09]

…until, of course, the government shut it down because they could not benefit from it. 😏

[@nyehu09]

@@shadowofhawk55 That was my first thought… But I was amazed at how it went on for weeks without issues like that. What eventually ended the whole thing was the government.

[@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r]

Like I said when watching the movies. "Bringing back the blipped people would cause more problems". I mean most people accepted the situation as bad as it was but bringing them back five years later just causes way too many problems

[@theapproachingstorm2133]

That and mass trauma for those that accepted the loss and wont be able to accept their return

[@waitotong9590]

When your grades are falling in school. Teachers: Do better

[@godiegolem]

Underrated comment right here

[@lazies]

@@godiegolem i agree

[@tyberiuscarter5011]

There’s also the really dark and sad reality that all the people that were on planes, ships or driving, more then likely probably died as soon as they snapped back….

[@pinokhio4844]

😳

[@TheWreetchedPrograme]

Nope...the Russo brothers came out and stared that Hulk did a 'smart snap' basically meaning he brought everyone back into a safe position

[@blazer8087]

Also the cars would have crashed but they wouldn’t be in the cars because they would have blipped before the cars crashed therefore they would be where they where while they were driving and not where the car crashed

[@pinokhio4844]

@omegablaziken nah the people who got dusted while driving, would spawn in the middle of the road and get hit by traffic

[@tyberiuscarter5011]

@@TheWreetchedPrograme okay didn't know that, but yeah if they did come back where they were when they snapped it would be horrible. I mean we still lost however many people were piloting planes or ships if they didn't manage to catch it in time.

[@ilovenosepowder791]

The gouvernement: NOOO you can’t just solve the world’s inequality for a just to disprove a quote made in a movie!!!!! MatPat: hold my diet cola

[@candiegray4037]

MatPat: Captain America's speech is hollow because he says the government should do better and it's not that simple. Also MatPat: *summarizes how we could do better in one simple video* Captain America: That's what I said.

[@wyrowood3490]

Its it bad that i saw the meme face on that "NOOO"?

[@sturm9087]

@@candiegray4037 but mat pointed out that it isn’t the politicians that need to “do better” it’s the people and their communities since they are the only ones that can solve the problem, not the politicians like Sam points the finger at.

[@MrS-pe6sd]

When falcon says that “do better” line it reminds me of a 12-year-old girl wanting her parents to “be richer“ so she can live like Kim Kardashian. It’s an incredibly juvenile statement and tantrum by falcon.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

The way I see it, if the story writers simply consulted with MatPat, there wouldn't be so many plot holes in the actual story.

[@petermarsella6537]

Petition to get MatPat a seat in the writer crew for Marvel

[@chinchillinDaily]

We meet again moustacheless man

[@saraguzman9388]

I feel like ive seen you before hmmm..

[@petermarsella6537]

@@saraguzman9388 you'll get used to it

[@diegobrando3409]

I wouldn't trust him to pay attention. He called the I.M.P (Immediate Murder professionals) the immediate murder patrol and completely missed the mark with what Alastor was and when he was alive.

[@kronos1794]

Sam's speech is honestly the most "Captain America" thing he has done so far. Steve was a simple man and when faced with things that were more complicated that he understood, he would admit he didn't get it but still implored the other person to "do better." Tony understandably wanted to be proactive with the defense of the earth AFTER it had already been invaded once yet Steve admonished him for it and maintained their placed was to Avenge and not be proactive. He did the same with Fury. He basically shamed Fury for being proactive with global threats because "back in my day people had to have done something wrong before we did anything (not his exact word but close)." I expected more from Sam because he is a man of this era and understands things are more complicated, but his speech was still one that would be at home coming from Steve.

[@30noir]

He just sounded incredibly ignorant. Like a child saying 'the government should do something'. The politics in disney shows nowadays are all over the place and nonsense.

[@richardhobbs7360]

The difference between Steve and Sam is Steve knew his limits and didn’t act like they weren’t there, Sam knows his limits and then ignores them, as seen in his speech

[@ascaro1885]

@@30noir 100% agree..

[@candiegray4037]

I mean, Sam is a superhero, why do people want him to be a government tool? Superheros' whole thing is saving the little guy while talking truth to power, and that's what Sam did. Why do y'all want them to be politicians all of a sudden?

[@ucmanhvuong4301]

@@candiegray4037 As Civil Wars obviously pointed out, ppl are afraid of a bunch of superheroes just running around and taking no responsibilities. That's why Cap and his crew became vigilante after Civil Wars, always on the run, no longer superheroes. If Sam doesn't accept some lvl of control, he too should soon be deemed a vigilante, unless Marvel ignores their own rules in favor of dumb political messages. But since he's got a family, I highly doubt Sam would try to oppose the government

[@gediminasb9036]

Here's a theory: is it possible to make food rain like from Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 🧐

[@zak9158]

VOUCH VOUCH VOUCH

[@gediminasb9036]

@xXTheAnnoyingPandaXx i mean make food rain with the machine that Clint made

[@sifutophmasterofeyerolling2513]

@@gediminasb9036 is world hunger solved? No. How is that even a theory lol

[@gediminasb9036]

@@sifutophmasterofeyerolling2513 ok, i'am sorry for being curious, lord

[@gediminasb9036]

@xXTheAnnoyingPandaXx yeah i was watching the film and they were talking about molecular transformations or smth and it seemed pretty realistic

[@Wolffman109]

Hey, MatPat. I doubt you're even gonna read this, but I wrote a 77-page essay, and I cited this video and your Red Guardian video as additional sources. I hope that's okay! They were really good!

[@lynchreacher117]

Sort of antagonist? She blew up a building! “It’s just a little work out, just to stay loose. It was coming down anyway.” Darn you Bob!

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

On the next episode of MatPat Theory: How MatPat has been hinting at his own death at the hands of a disgruntled Link cosplayer since his very first video!

[@stellanovaluna]

lol

[@thefallenC073]

Is anyone ever gonna talk about the fact that Thanos said “gone, reduced to atoms” while meaning “they don’t exist anymore” when atoms literally make up matter

[@capybarniass]

LOL

[@chrism2809]

He didn't mean to destroy them, just reduce them to atoms so that technically that universe would still have the stones and not collapse without them.

[@Countingfandoms]

That’s, a clever line. Nice job noticing it and pointing it out!

[@Beast_Of_Madness]

Yeah, The Infinity Stones can't be destroyed.

[@spirit5461]

sure

[@isaacpascoe]

Whenever I hear or read “be better” I can’t help but think of Kratos saying to BOY “do not be sorry, be better”

[@VannyBeumer]

Whenever i hear matpat say be better i get annoyed at him not using the actual quote.

[@malikdespanie4344]

Kratos showed boy how he could be better and how becoming better made him you aware of the impact his actions have on others in both positive and negative ways.

[@crashmaster26]

I think this is about the softest subtle way you can say "HEY PEOPLE ... hating each other isn't going to fix it"

[@candiegray4037]

I'm pretty sure that was Sam's whole point since the beginning too.

[@user-op6kt8pg9y]

I dont think it was subtle at all, all same said was I dont know how to fix the planet so you do it because it cant be bothered

[@underthelidar]

I understood the “Do Better” line to mean do better getting the people impacted by decisions in the room when trying to solve complex problems. That made more sense to me especially coming from Sam as a minority, that as a group has typically been left out of the room.

[@ncrawford5673]

I thought I was the only one that understood him

[@Rebeverse]

It was very obvious that’s what speech was about but matpat purposely skip over racism to prove a point

[@Rounderyathecruel]

@@Rebeverse racism isn’t a thing in America, there are racist people, but everyone is equal. In that situation the politicians were right people should have gotten their property back

[@darknessknows1235]

@@Rounderyathecruel Just because everyone should be equal, doesn't make that actually the case

[@candiegray4037]

He really said "it's a 4 minute monologue" and then picked one little part out of context. Sam's literally asking for them all to work together and listen to each other, which even ends up being MatPat's conclusion to this theory.

[@GabeBult]

Thanks to both of you for coming on the show! I've been a fan of your work for a long time it was great getting to hear more about how you work and some behind the scenes stuff!

[@eviljoshy3402]

"You need to do better" Wow, what a power message. Telling someone they need to do a better job without providing any information on how to feasibly accomplish that.

[@terrancehall9762]

it is not his job to. he is challenging them to think of everyone when they make their plans

[@terrancehall9762]

@@cn2673 no it isn't. it is a call to action.

[@terrancehall9762]

@@cn2673 no it is

[@candiegray4037]

@@cn2673 do better is like, a second on the 4 minute speech he gives. He says do better and also why he's telling them to do better, how that will help and arrives to the same conclusion as Matt at the end. He even says do better or you might get more people like Karli coming after you. How is that not a call to action?

[@ainzulgone492]

13:15 "Why don't we print money?" Me, a german, who had the Weimarer Republic in school: Do better!

[@RunicShark]

😂😂

[@Mr_Case_Time]

I think a whole miniseries could be made just showing different stories of people popping into existence during the Blip. I mean, you know there had to be at least one instance of a guy popping into his bedroom, only to see his wife with her new boyfriend.

[@student8663]

honestly that would be the best of it. Remember Peter's teacher said his wife pretended to blip and ran off with someone else?

[@byrnes8024]

I would love to see a show all about Bucky being a Millionaire! Like a reality show where Bucky goes around spending money!

[@quintessenceSL]

Doesn't happen. After about 5 years of no activity, the bank will send milquetoast correspondence asking to make some type of transaction to prove the account isn't abandoned. After that, the state claims it.

[@shreya5527]

*plums*

[@maxtube444]

Yea

[@ex8800]

wanda, we're gonna need another hex

[@braydenjohnson2090]

no you wouldn’t

[@EricckkMoneyy7777NGLBruhh]

You know, when on Avengers 3 when people started blipping out, i had the thought that everything MattPat is talking about. I just wondered about where everyone would go when people came back. I didn't see any of the Avengers help people get their houses back, jobs, their stuff back, everything!

[@nixhixx]

I really liked Falcon and the Winter Soldier... I wasn't deeply invested in either of them before the series, and it definitely made me a bigger fan of both.

[@Nadie47]

And it introduced US agent, which probably will go down to the Thunderbolts team

[@iamgroot2810]

Same here. I loved all the Disney Plus shows but I have a soft spot for TFATWS.

[@conneraldeqn9751]

Honestly I think it was kinda trash but hey, your opinion is yours only

[@nixhixx]

I mean... Ok. Like assholes....

[@kpoponbeet]

I will forever enjoy these videos and cant wait to go back and binge watch them :) gotta get him dem views

[@thezygardiantrio9434]

Wow, five bots under this comment

[@meoowriri]

Them* because it's a whole group of people that put effort into the videos but I like your motivation

[@crusader2603]

@don't click 👇 don’t worry I won’t

[@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275]

12:52 "Open up that money printer!" Me immediately after: "NO! HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM POST WAR GERMANY?!"

[@tinybeetlee]

This 😂

[@mermer2811]

It’s still one of the best options for a country in crisis

[@Truman5555]

Actually........ kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJCUZnWAqpuhaJY

[@TVMAN1997]

“Do better” Ahh yes the thing that people tell me on the Internet but never go in depth of how I can do better.

[@RealElMaximo]

Captain America: The Internet Scold 😄

[@babymama406]

Usually when people give you a vague “do better” it really means: “I have no real knowledge or solutions, but I need you to fervently agree with me regardless.”

[@yashvisharma8897]

13:05 I literally said inflation out loud at my screen with matpat. I was always confused as to why the government just can't print more money. Then finally after a lot of research i got to know about inflation and it's effects. P. S - when I was a child 😂

[@kylie7780]

So did I, and when he brought up Hyperinflation I was telling him 2018 Venezuela, where they had wheelbarrows of money just to buy groceries.

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

LMFAO I GOT IT JUST WHEN IT CAME IN MY HISTORY BOOK WITH ITS MEANING but forgot the word exists until today lol

[@ilijaantic272]

Same bro 😂

[@iamginger6802]

Remember the days when Matpat actually finished an episode with the words" Aaaaaand cut?"

[@King_Nex]

I still hear it in my head

[@frostfrost8907]

He still does after the sponsor lol

[@osmosisjones4912]

Imagine if some disappeared on the toilet . And then repaired while someone else was on that other toilet

[@Hope-ux4dx]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHayaJWpbslki8U ..

[@tyr5351]

No because hulk made sure to wish for the returning people to get moved if they are to spawn in something or someone

[@KRYMauL]

@@tyr5351 It's not a wish bro. He literally willed it happen because the Infinity Gauntlet makes you a "god" of that universe.

[@Warwolf1]

One thing I wanna add in here, MatPat. Thanos was *wrong* in his idea. Halving the life in the universe means *less* resources for the survivors. Remember, that includes animals and plant life. And when you have them all vanishing the way they did, there is a considerable amount of death and destruction that would follow in the wake of that. We're talking fires, at the very least, maybe floods and who knows what else due to lack of maintenance of certain attempts to corral water for drinking, etc. Furthermore, Thanos should have used the Gauntlet to make sure there would *always* be double to triple the amount of resources needed, no matter how high universal population got. It would have prevented the deaths of billions, as well as made *this* mess of a show's plot a non-starter. Just my two cents.

[@cashagon]

I think Thanos was specifically targeting sentient lifeforms. Otherwise, yeah, you're right. And one of the biggest reasons food and water shortages is because its not being given to those who need it. There are countries in the real world who withhold food as a means of controlling the people. Or farmers are paid not to grow anything because there's "too much". The amount of food waste each year because it wasn't bought before the expiration date is staggering. The problem isn't a lack of resources, but rather a mismanagement of resources.

[@IncognitoLu]

@@cashagon it was all life,when Banner snaps back all the big the blipped lives,and man looks out the window and sees multiple birds flying around a tree,and then goes on to say “guys I think it worked” before the place gets blown up.

[@Mr713mexican]

You cannot double resources as there is no energy just chiling to make it happens. All atoms and elements are finite. So to double plants numbers and animal numbers for food is impossible no matter the gauntlets power or purpose. Now if the gauntlet had changed reality where there is more resources and less mouths then yes. It would work. But same number of mouths but just more resources cannot be done.

[@Warwolf1]

@@Mr713mexican Wow, You really don't know which stones exist do you? Space, Time, Mind, *Reality*, Soul, Power. One of the gems LITERALLY RESHAPES REALITY according to the wielder's desires! In short, Thanos IS A FUCKING *IDIOT*.

[@tyranidswarmlord9722]

Hindsight is a thing but thanks to Eternals... Thanos was right. Like super super right. Right for the wrong reasons, but the Snap still had to happen for spoiler related stuff. Helps also explain why Dr Strange let Star Lord throw the win in the end of Infinity war.

[@lilmissannajo1371]

It’s stated in show that Sam’s sister refuses financial help directly from Sam which is why they go to the bank and have that whole thing with the boat

[@johnnygyro2295]

Why would she refuse help?

[@candiegray4037]

@@johnnygyro2295 cause she feels bad about asking for help? She wants to stand on her own without her big brother having to care for her. Which matches her personality, she was a single mom and business woman during the blip, doing everything for herself.

[@johnnygyro2295]

@@candiegray4037 I can understand not wanting to rely on others' help all the time. That said, there's a time and place for pride.

[@SgtSupaman]

I don't remember her refusing help from Sam, and I seriously doubt she would. Why would someone refuse help from their family so they can go crawl on their knees and beg for help from big heartless bank? That sounds like the dumbest, backwards decision to make.

[@hereiampercylover]

@@SgtSupaman Sam literally stated that he could help her and she said no. It's implied that he's tried to help her out before but she didn't want handouts

[@potato3.732]

I wonder how much Bucky’s first edition Hobbit would be worth… Or any of his other possessions… Matpat you know what to do.

[@bassman9261995]

“There is no rewind button” talking about a universe that has time travel.

[@drunkhas]

But, time travel as in people who can leap through time. Time and reality themselves can't be rewind.

[@bassman9261995]

The existence of the “What If” series as MCU canon makes a true rewind or reboot very possible

[@synthwolfe8906]

How about this: if banner-hulk had worded it differently. It could've solved a lot. Instead of "bring back those who vanished", use that snap to "make it so thanos had never snapped". Yes, its altering the timeline, but its not really like thats completely out of the marvel wheelhouse.

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

That would create a massive paradox, though. If Thanos never snapped, then there would have been no reason for the second snap in the first place...

[@oryanstudios2252]

I always kinda thought of it as saying "the people in power aren't trying as hard as they should be." Like they're doing their jobs, but they lack the connections and the humanity that make them passionate about helping people. And by "Do better", Sam means "care more about the people you're helping. In short, matpat thinks the government men sam is talking to are trying their best, and sam expects more. I think that they aren't trying as hard as maybe they should be, and sam wants the most out of them

[@candiegray4037]

The show goes out of it's way to depict how bad the GRC have been managing the whole post blip thing even tho they hold a huge amount of power and resources. I'm pretty sure they can and should "do better"

[@oryanstudios2252]

@@candiegray4037 thank you!

[@coletrainhetrick]

But he's also defending actual fucking terrorists sooooo

[@OverlordMMM]

@@coletrainhetrick He's defending folks who became so desperate for help that when there's on one listening to their needs they decided to act on their own accord. They aren't terrorists by default, the situation drove them to that point. If those folks with power had acted in a better manner then the people would never have felt that level of desperation. That's what Cap is saying.

[@coletrainhetrick]

@Susan🔥𝐆𝐨 𝐓𝐨 𝐌𝐲 РR0FILЕ wow you're late to the fucking party. This has already been explained. Bruce banner made those people return safely.

[@kylerivera3470]

Senator: It's complicated and we're trying to do something. Sam: Pls just do better.

[@candiegray4037]

The senator that gave the shield to a power hungry asshole that went about causing international chaos and literally killed a dude in the middle of a plaza? That senator? Yeah, he has to do a LOT better.

[@NeroWalker]

@@candiegray4037 and sam went around negotiating with terrorists....

[@sturm9087]

@@candiegray4037 the new cap wasn’t power hungry. He was a soldier with ptsd that was trying to do what he thought his country needed him to do. At the end of the day he was trying to be a good man like Steve and wasn’t purposely malicious but was pushed over the edge.

[@candiegray4037]

@@sturm9087 you can't excuse a person's actions just because they have ptsd. Sam, Bucky, Rhodey, a lot of the avengers who were also soldiers have ptsd. But Walker was shown, multiple times, to find shame and anger in being bested in battle and his arc was literally about his decent into a power hungry need for a serum in contrast to Sam's refusal to take it. His ptsd is part of his character and affected him? Yes of course. But you can't claim he's not about the pursuit of power for his own benefit because that's his purpose as a character to the story.

[@loganhurley5590]

I think the weakness of that final scene is that Disney can't endorse anything remotely radical or interesting. The whole movie sets up a fairly intense problem and situation. The returners who are preferred by the GRC are beneficiaries of injustice, the disinheriting of people from their lands and homes of the past two years. Compare this to the way the intervening years are talked about, the peace and mutual care that characterized the societies. Those societies likely could have absorbed the returners, but the tendency of imperialism (another major theme of Falcon & the Winter Soldier) leads the great powers to create the GRC. The fix-boat scene isn't just an argument for "make better policy." It's an argument for mutual obligation to each other, caring for those in need with our own hands and labor. Sacrificing for others because they're our neighbors. Loving neighbors for no other reason than that they're there. Sam's speech only fits the themes of the show if "do better" means "end your imperialism" and "sacrifice your own wealth and power to aid those in need."

[@turtlecat465]

That first line is the main issue right there. They knew the Flag Smashers were right so they had to make them terrorists to set up the conflict, which also means there is no looping back to agreeing with them

[@rosemali3022]

The solution is simple, making it happen is hard. That said, if people had already cut out capitalism while people were gone, people would probably end up accepting it. Of course the rich won't be happy but having lost their leverage I don't know if they could do much. Disney is just trying to pander, but not actually make anything with meaning. I miss the days when there was lots of different studios making movies

[@Moni-ob7xi]

^

[@unidentifiedguy8253]

If you are all about taking care of others and sacrificing for others, can you send me a couple grand. I could use it and it is the neighborly thing for you to do.

[@loganhurley5590]

@@unidentifiedguy8253 Yes, yes Zemo. We've already heard you argue that heroes inevitably become villains and there can only be a level playing field, not truly uninterested care. It's an interesting critique of reformers who want to use power and violence to establish their ends, like the show gets right. But it's not a very interesting critique of the ethics of mutual care and obligation in local communities that gets carried by the boat-fixing resolution.

[@bigk9000]

Wouldn't Bucky have been making some form of back pay from the time he disappeared to the time he was discovered to still be alive as The Winter Soldier? Bucky was a POW who was forced to carry out assassinations against his will, so I would think that would need to be taken into account. Sure, it most likely wouldn't have earned any compound interest since he was presumed dead all that time, but I would think he'd still receive a monster paycheck for 70+ years of service.

[@rogerweng1150]

To be fair, when you are running around just smacking people with your shield, is there is bound to be trouble

[@xxmcm2599]

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[@gordatados]

Theory: how much slime would snail from Turbo need to produce in order to go that fast?

[@briananeuraysem3321]

YES

[@donnovandalusong266]

Now that’s the Theory I wanna hear

[@Mia-ip6vi]

I actually thought this while watching the episode, the politics in the show were handled a lot better than some other shows and did try to be balanced and the world of the MCU is different to the real world now, but some of it still didn't quite sit right with me. However, as Matpat said, his speech does still resonate with me.

[@hottopic3622]

i read the title, then this started with bucky being a millionaire, needless to say, i was confused af

[@biancabrooks280]

Same!

[@AngelMartinez-ur3gf]

Yeah this has to be the most clickbaity title that has absolutely nothing to do with an episode that I’ve seen from film theory in a while

[@noahbrown2725]

I just found this video and it's exactly what I needed! I have to write an essay for whether Hawaii is an illegally occupied sovereign nation. I'm trying to argue that even though the overthrow and annexation was illegal, the ongoing possession off Hawaii by the united states makes the US government legitimate, but I wasn't sure exactly what laws would prove it. What you said about squatters rights was just what I was looking for to help explain why Hawaii is not illegally occupied, so thank you!

[@sp4c1ng_0ut8]

"What you said about squatters rights was just what I was looking for to help explain why Hawaii is not illegally occupied, so thank you!" Squatter's Rights dont apply to global super powers

[@sam0999]

Theory Idea: In What If, Howard Stark said that the Tessaract could power New York for 10 decades based on that how long could the Tessaract power the world today?

[@christopherfleetwood5252]

Spoiler: The Tessaract, is an Infinity Gem.

[@admincommand2016]

It's not, it's his fault he hasn't keep up

[@badabing9402]

Considering the fact that someone could harness the power of the stone to make portals instantly, you can create infinite energy provided the space stone doesn’t “wear out”, which it shouldn’t.

[@Rebirth._]

i hope they didnt say word for word ten decades, just say a CENTURY

[@boongis5138]

I understand your view on falcons speech but I think you might be looking at it from a different angle. I think what he ment was rebuilding is their common struggle and it is the senators job is to organize the rebuilding better. Everyone there has to rebuild and the power is equal among people now, and people are looking to the senator for ways to rebuild.

[@VentA_7]

Too bad sam admitted to the fact he has no idea what he’s talking about during the speech, even trying use it as a positive point. So like no he probably didn’t mean that

[@quintessenceSL]

Yeah, seemed fairly obvious unless you 3.5 billion as an underclass. I'm sure that will work well. And it's really no different than the inequality arguments now, or when East Germany reunited with West Germany. There will be sacrifice, and it is in the Senator's hands to make the most prudent ones available.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

I thought he was talking about racism and the other social issues in the show how they immediately went back on their word and made a new captain america

[@HuyNguyen-ll9gz]

That’s the whole point of Matt’s rant

[@boongis5138]

@@theoutsiderjess1869 Thats kind of what I took away from it. Even for the time, if you think about when that movie was supposed to come out and not be a show, it made COMPLETE SENSE for the time and for what they were showing in the show.

[@kantstopmenowimhavinsuchag7748]

I want to point out that the homes from before the blip still exist, and many of them are probably still in pretty good shape. You could just give people houses. Given how unprecedented the blip was, you could totally justify taking extra houses from landlords and real estate empires, and get people housed.

[@night2501]

well first safety net should be family, a lot of those property may go to next of kin, and they may be OK with letting you stay or help you while you sort things out, so this can at least absorb some of those numbers, I know not all families would be quite this open, then there is houses that where left abandoned with no next of kin or houses that where left with o maintenance, there you can house other portion of people, maybe give a bonus for repairing them and repopulating areas that may have been abandoned, there may be some ways to at least alleviate things also real state price would have collapsed prior to the people reappearing, so maybe people where not investing in real state BTW landlord who rent to families and such are usually not the mega rich, they usually middle class , or slightly upper class, the very wealthy will have better real state investments that do not require as much micromanagement and investment, so that may not be the best place to look for

[@kantstopmenowimhavinsuchag7748]

@@night2501 There would be enough houses left without next of kin or too far away for the next of kin to claim, I feel like government seizure of surplus houses might be necessary. A combination of stringent rent control and taking surplus homes from mainly realty companies would probably be a better policy

[@brll5733]

Five years is a long time to let houses sit empty. All of them were also disconnected from utilities and you can't just switch massive reators back on for power for instance. Realistically, millions would have died after being returned.

[@luthfi7725]

5 years is alot..

[@docb77]

@@brll5733 but in universe they did sit empty. Look at the neighborhood Scott Lang walked thorough when he came back. The whole street looked abandoned.

[@marvelprince]

I think Sam is telling the senator that we collectively need to do better, be better and work together. He started off by telling him not to call the Flag Smashers terrorists not because he doesn’t think they’re terrorists but because it’s divisive language that allows the politicians to separate Us from Them. Be better, listen to each other and take care of one another. That’s how Sam is as Cap, aspiring us all to be better

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

Yea I guess the script writers tried making Sam say that but they messed up since the whole conversation was confusing on what they really mean, according to me at least...where the senator was talking about how they are trying to handle the situation and that am doesn't understand but Sam was like F**K YA IK WTF IS GOING ON HERE UR CORRUPT AND U NEED TO DO BETTER! (LOL)

[@moduspwnenz]

Yeah, matpat isnt the smartest aleck of the bunch. His theories are always very presumptuous without context, and kinda very clearly doesnt watch what he makes theories on. your insightful and poignant comment proves all this.

[@candiegray4037]

@@pkmntrainerred4247 except that's not what Sam says at all, the dude says the senators are leaving the people vulnerable to their decisions out of the negotiation table. He's not saying corrupt, he's saying they're not being fair.

[@Crocodile2873]

The squatters rights argument isn’t valid. Most places require you to be staying there for at least 15 years. Some places have laws that say as high as 30 years, and I’ve seen 20-25 as the most common in the US

[@jpcsdutra]

Arguable. Yeah most places require more time, but also, in this hypothetical situation, previous owners were supposed dead and it was a world wide phenomenon. I'm sure courts all over the world were having field days with how unprecedented everything was and how some variant of squatters rights had to apply, because there was no way of knowing. All new owners documentations would have been as legal as the previous owners. That's kind of the crux of the debate. The people that vanished didn't do so willingly, and the people that moved on had no way to know they were coming back.

[@sunwukong32]

Idk about most places but in GA it's only 7 years if you pay the taxes

[@Reyven_]

I'm going with the idea that he's not doing a full one to one comparison. otherwise the entire argument assumes that companies who don't want to increase pay even now with the "worker shortage" would increase pay and that governmental budgets would be readjusted armies being cut in half and all.

[@Gamer3427]

@@jpcsdutra There's also to account that quite a few homes would legally have been foreclosed on by the banks and no longer the property of their original owners in any sense as they would have failed to pay their mortgages for five years. In many cases those homes would have been resold, (likely very cheaply due to the decrease in property value that would come from half the population being gone), so the new owners present there would be entirely within their legal right to the property. As a result, attempting to kick them out of their houses in favor of the previous owners would be as legally sound as it would be for someone in real life who didn't pay their bills to go back up to their former home and try to claim it. Though the circumstances are a bit different given the situation, from a legal standpoint there's no way any court system could side with the previous owners in that situation since the transfer of ownership would have been done through entirely legitimate means.

[@patriciaazevedo1543]

I dont know about usa but here in Brasil its 5 years (same as the bleep)

[@Canadian_Zac]

Falcon.. Litterally pulled a Politician. Sound really great, while not actually saying anything helpful

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

Which basically sums up every Marvel show in Phase 4.

[@gimzod76]

Don't forget he believes you can just print more money

[@nathanieldiaz5254]

@@shinigamimiroku3723 Not at all.

[@nerds-nonsense]

@@gimzod76 because you can...

[@Rounderyathecruel]

@@nerds-nonsense no you can’t

[@imlegit1162]

The realest fan base I’ve ever witnessed. proud to be a part of this community even the dark times

[@Andreatzl]

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[@Pup_Star]

👏

[@lilyfm7152]

What

[@coins_png]

Look at all those bots having a conversation in html links

[@johnconley1586]

MAT YOU FORGOT THAT THERE WERE COMPLETELY EMPTY HOMES IN ENDGAME WHEN SCOTT WAS LOOKING FOR HIS FAMILYS HOME

[@sunnybunnystorm]

Falcon: "Do better." Governers: "And HOW do we do that?" Matpat: Allow me sir.

[@eleboyele1302]

"Do better" reminds me of a game where one of the endings is the main character mind controls everyone to work for the greater good(or something like that) but the people had different views of what was right witch lead to chaos

[@Alex-lu9ku]

Nice to see someone actually talk about the issue instead of just "ohhhh but sam was right, the government just needs to do it" without explaining how

[@hxcbmxallday]

Unfortunately they probably closed Bucky’s accounts when he fell from the train, he was most likely considered dead.

[@osmosisjones4912]

You should see a video Thanos was clearly evil but he's also wrong

[@GEONEgaming]

"You can't just leave 3 billion homeless people" India: "Is that a challenge?"

[@viperstriker4728]

USSR solution: "Just starve then you will have plenty of house to go around" Mao Zedong: "why wait for them to starve?"

[@torkelsvenson6411]

@@viperstriker4728 Genghis Khan: "How adorable..."

[@niklasvilhelm7247]

@@viperstriker4728 british empire: colonise them

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

As a Indian I can say this comment hits hard in the feels

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

@@niklasvilhelm7247 Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand looks like we will have to wait for another long time to celebrate our next Independence day (Jk)

[@theneonwarriors3794]

I mean... you’re right, you never said that it had to be Steve Rodgers or Sam Wilson so it could be the John Walker Captain America

[@stevenscott2136]

I can't get used to anybody but Steve being Captain America. Sam is the Falcon, Walker is USAgent.

[@theneonwarriors3794]

@@stevenscott2136 fair

[@candiegray4037]

@@stevenscott2136 but did u watch the last episode of fatws? I could get used to Sam being Captain America.

[@camerontipton2269]

In the MCU there would definitely be some people that would hate people that disappeared during the blip because they lost a job when they came back

[@ernestlewisjr.2003]

Sam's speech is about how we view people. The language used by the government officials regardless of how correct it was dehumanizing. We can make hard decisions without dehumanizing the people on all sides.

[@UltimateCerberus]

No one dehumanized Karli but her own actions.

[@candiegray4037]

@@UltimateCerberus I don't see anyone dehumanizing every Avenger that's killed people because of their actions. What Karli did was wrong, but dehumanizing her especially in this context to discredit her very powerful message doesn't solve the problem she's protesting against. That's what Sam is saying.

[@UltimateCerberus]

@@candiegray4037 I just can't believe what you just wrote.

[@bec3057]

Also Sam made a point that they had the resources to be helping all these displaced people, and that they needed to do better in using them.

[@sturm9087]

Yeah don’t call al Qaeda or isis “terrorists” because even if it’s right it’s dehumanizing. See how dumb that sounds?

[@melvinnorthrup]

Thank you so much for pointing out that the answer is in the actions of the people rather than the government. While they hold a lot of power, it’s nothing if we don’t care to help others ourselves.