Film Theory: Don't Trust A RAT! (Ratatouille)

[@mattrobinson8538]

Theory idea: how much money do phineas and Ferb have. This includes all the same day shipping and other delivery fees.

[@claytoncurr8078]

Yesssss

[@plant_guy_248]

That sounds amazing

[@tvc1061]

Sounds amazing

[@Ninjahattori15]

Matpat I know what you re gonna do someday

[@BaldiesAnonymous]

Honestly this is a great idea. I've always wondered how they were able to afford all of those things. Plus the age old theory of Dr. Doof possibly being phineas' dad.

[@ty-rant_1394]

Protagonist: the leading character or one of the major characters in a drama, movie, novel, or other fictional text. Antagonist: a person who actively opposes or is hostile to someone or something; an adversary. Protagonist does not mean "hero." Antagonist does not mean "villain." It is entirely possible the protagonist can be the "villain," while the antagonist is the "hero."

[@Nate-vn8xx]

like how in gta you play as the bad guys but you are still a protagonist

[@streetshow4345]

You beat me to it. I would also add that Skinner was motivated by greed, and most of his "redeeming" qualities were all attempts at keeping himself, not the business, on top.

[@juliakyootistclosed9756]

this is a Disney childrens cartoon, i think they always have the context of main character is "good" guy

[@raykayproductions652]

*facepalm* The antagonist is the bad guy the protagonist is the good guy if the main character is bad he is the antagonist. if the guy stopping the bad guy(like metro man in mega mind) is good then he is still the protagonist even if he is stopping the bad guy

[@stephenfaulkner2327]

@@raykayproductions652 wrong

[@fathermother8231]

Protagonist just means “main character “ the antagonist is the person trying to stop the “protagonist”. The protagonist doesn’t need to be good, and the antagonist doesn’t need to be bad. Disney needs to learn this in my opinion.

[@jacksonbarlow8921]

Yeah, if you think about a movie centered around a bank robber or something like that, they would still be the protagonist. And the head of police that is doing the right thing by hunting him down would be seen as the Antagonist

[@beatertlwonline9642]

@Junxi Liu pro·tag·o·nist /prōˈtaɡənəst,prəˈtaɡənəst/ Learn to pronounce noun the leading character or one of the major characters in a drama, movie, novel, or other fictional text. It doesn't say they have to be good or bad

[@jacksonbarlow8921]

@Junxi Liu lol

[@no.one.a113]

I mean, it seems like Pixar already knows

[@turtlemaster6967]

Bruh

[@Legomanmansfield]

We are forgetting the times Skinner tries to get Linguini to fail by making him cook an impossible dish, or hiding the fact that the restaurant is rightfully Linguini's. He may not have destroyed the evidence, but he did hide it, and defy Gusteau's last wishes.

[@ItsChevnotJeff]

Yeah, well I'd rather have an obnoxious boss arrested for withholding a deceased partner's will than have a pack of disease ridden rodents run the restaurant itself

[@Legomanmansfield]

@@ItsChevnotJeff True, very true. Arguably the only hero in this movie is the health inspector.

[@gavinflom7093]

But linguini literally can’t cook, so wasn’t it for everyone’s best interests?

[@Legomanmansfield]

@@gavinflom7093 Even if he can't cook, he is still entitled to decision making and profits from the restaurant.

[@44SteveYT]

Yeah but he does crimes in the movie Theft and others

[@floangel5422]

Everyone Watching: Figuring out Remy is the bad guy Me: Wait, Linguini had chin hair?!

[@HoradeFidges]

I also just noticed that

[@sidgrim]

ME

[@RubyPig16]

WOW HOW HAVE U JUST NOTICED

[@fathermother8231]

Wait he does?

[@AbsoluteRatBastard]

Excuse me, *what*

[@slashtheporcupine6746]

Anything: *is kid friendly* MatPat: “IT’S EVIL! I SWEAR IT’S EVIL!”

[@The_Biologist27]

Except he is almost always right.

[@kumoriiii]

I can't tell if this is a hate comment or if your just explaining the formula for a theory.

[@Trollamollex]

This is why we can't have nice things

[@alnaseralrais]

@@The_Biologist27 no one said he wasn't

[@The_Biologist27]

@@kumoriiii ikr lol

[@skullbones1997]

On Gordon Ramsey’s defense, Raj stuck his head in a freezer to “cool his mind”

[@rambisknocker9559]

And he made a Seafood Pancake, let's not forget that.

[@anyelisluciano3483]

Oh god

[@anyelisluciano3483]

That is Terrible

[@davidmingle1650]

Remy doesn't care because remy is a higher life-form

[@chopstick9002]

@@rambisknocker9559 that could pee

[@chrypherrogenlost7528]

Skiner is literally doing everything in his power to stop linguini from figuring out he is gustos son so he doesn't become head chef and skinner is literally using his dead friend gusto just to make money and the only reason he wanted to call the health inspector was to get everyone fired because they put him jobless.

[@rentedbread]

It's not called just to make money. It's called Good Business. EVEN if he wants to just make money He's feeding people around the world! THE ONLY REASON IS THAT? HOW ABOUT HE CARES ABOUT THE HEALTH CODE!

[@zerodiversion4509]

​@@rentedbreadYou're not wrong but I think the main reason I can see chef Skinner be an antagonist is because in his pursuit, it comes at the cost of going against Gusteau's message while Remy did not want to compromise it. I do think Matpat and you but correct me in that, really neglected the part that Remy does actually practice hygiene. I'd assume he'd at least take it a step further because it wouldn't do good for any chef if their own filth that made the people who eat their food sick but I don't blame any of you for thinking he doesn't since the movie doesn't showcase this kinda stuff.

[@rentedbread]

@@zerodiversion4509Yes but at the end of the movie, there's a scene where remy brings the rest of his dirty and probably disease-ridden companions over to the restaurant. Yes they cleaned themselves but what about the floor? It could be tremendously contaminated with all sorts of bacteria and diseases.

[@jasonbell2008]

Remy: “I will seize my moment no matter what” Ernesto de la Cruz: *yes*

[@Hi-vn2yj]

Lol

[@swift_sa]

Lol 🤣

[@chufanluo9340]

Honestly now that you say that they do have strong similarities

[@ChoaiDode]

hey wait this seems to be a trend with Pixar villians

[@sergioarmijo7620]

And they both poisoned people too weird...

[@harrishealy8340]

I have a reason WHY Remy is the protagonist. It’s because the definition of protagonist isn’t good or bad it just means the person who the story follows and try to move the story forward (hints “pro” which mean forward). And antagonist is the person trying to stop them from moving the plot forward. A good example of this is Suicide Squad where they aren’t really the “good guys” but they still are the protagonists

[@raykayproductions652]

not true.. the protagonist is the hero the antagonist is the bad guy. when you said “it’s because the definition of protagonist isn’t good or bad it just it means the person who the story follows. so when you said the protagonist is the person isn’t good or bad. No because even if the story follows a villain it’s still the antagonist.

[@milkflippers8966]

Honestly either way there would have been a story long or short idk 👀 👄

[@maheshwaranp3946]

@@raykayproductions652 sorry man you are wrong. The op is right. Protaganist literally means "the leading character" regardless they are good or bad.

[@deadaccount8060]

@@maheshwaranp3946 well then the leading Character SUCKS..

[@raykayproductions652]

Maheshwaran P ok i’m not friend to brag but...my uncle is a director he forces me to learn all these terms about antagonist and protagonist. i’ve also studied these :/

[@Fayanora]

MattPat: Remy is a narcissist and a jerk. Me: Oh, so just like most really skilled chefs then?

[@petritibi]

Gordon Ramsay is not narcissist and ajerk, just rude

[@Raccon_Detective.]

@@petritibi He curses ALOT but has charisma.

[@petritibi]

@@Raccon_Detective. sure but that doesnt make him a bad cook he's still very talented

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

@@petritibi And, he actually have a lot of self-control to his family and especially to children (both his and others)

[@trashman11]

The thing is Gordon Ramsay isn't really mean, he wants people to get better and learn. Also anything other than the American kitchen nightmares hes actually super chill and works with people.

[@ztslovebird]

Remy could’ve taught Linguini the technical sides of cooking (cutting, measuring, stirring, etc.), but he couldn’t teach how to sniff out rotten ingredients or understand what taste combinations work.

[@Ok_buddy_thats_enough]

Could’ve, should’ve but didn’t

[@upgrade4599]

Skinner got a letter from Renata asking him not to disclose the fact that Alfredo is Auguste's son. The events of the movie are speculated to happen around 2007 and the French inheritance law gives the rights to Alfredo of 50%. The fact that Skinner is a good business man and that the letter asks him to hide Alfredo's inheritance does not give him the right to full ownership and this is the reason why Skinner is portrait as the villain or antagonist in this movie. I am not 100% sure that my point is correct but I hope you didn't omit this just to make your point in this video and IF I am right I believe that this information should have a place in the video and not portrait Skinner in such a good light even though I agree on some points about Remy.

[@Him231k]

K

[@Amalada_]

Exactly

[@StaticDraco]

Someone said it

[@izy6088]

This is what I was so confused about while watching the video

[@kanewilson8624]

Upgrade your speculation of the history of events is wrong, since all Disney movies are canonically connected you would of noticed Bombvoyarge during his his mime career (from the Incredibles) if you say it's 2007 that would mean he would be 80+ years old, yet he looks younger than 40 (Incredibles takes place the 1950's)

[@themystifier4328]

I like to think about how strange Pixar movies would be if the plots were the same, but all the characters are humans

[@izzyfoshizzy]

Just gonna say, Cars 2 is terrifying

[@Comets_Craft]

Why did you bring this to my mind-

[@horhaythebigmacguy3836]

Monsters Inc and toy story are the first ones that came to mind for me

[@TwN-vv4mi]

I mean, Cars? Bug's Life? Toy Story???

[@TwN-vv4mi]

I mean, Cars? Bug's Life? Toy Story???

[@vertiathegreen9858]

If I remember correctly, Remmy was separated from his family when they ran from the old woman at the beginning of the movie. He tried to follow them but the water pushed him down the other path. He didn't exactly run away.

[@thatoneguywiththevoice328]

Yeah but the rest is still true

[@leviichuu711]

Vertia the Green yup

[@aperson6463]

he never tried to find them though

[@Baltyboi]

Eventually he found them and didn’t go back still

[@joshiesushi]

@@thatoneguywiththevoice328 No its not, actually. I like Matt and all but this is honestly one of the most lazily and inaccurate theory he's made.

[@liviemillie6455]

I love Ratatouille, and now I work in the food industry in part because it inspired me as a kid ... and I *hate* to admit that you're right. This theory was really well done. Also I'm happy you self-called-out the Dory theory lol

[@professorangi6350]

Yeah but Skinner tried to hide Gusteau' will that stated that his children were to own the restaurant (linguine) which is very illegal. Plus when Skinner finds out that it was Remy who was cooking he captured him to have him slave out in his new restaurant, very selfish and money driven, this also proves that he doesn't care about food hygiene one of the points matt pat says that makes skinner the good guy. Not only all of that but he was trying to find an excuse to fire Linguine or expose him (by getting him drunk) , he only found out about Remy because of his drive to get linguine fired!

[@professorangi6350]

@Edward Lee Miller woah woah woah did I miss something completely from this film (please elaborate).

[@professorangi6350]

@Boogeyman yeah but by the time Skinner finds out about the will LINGUINE has already tricked him, the other chefs and the public that he can cook and news about his soup makes business booming

[@carterdendy5332]

i think we can all agree the only good guy is colette. bc she’s a badass

[@doodleproductions7552]

@Boogeyman Or would he? If someone happened to find out that Linguine was written into the will as the owner then the scandal would surely blow up. I don't think he would have kept him as the garbage boy if Linguine/Remi failed to replicate the soup, he would just throw him out making him out to be incompetent. This is all just speculation but if someone's name was written into a will and anyone notices that they weren't received the promise reward isn't' that a scandal in of itself? A will is (by law) required to be fully fulfilled unless debts were taken out for government purposes, Linguine's case doesn't fall under this. Gusteau was the sole proprietor of the franchise and so he has every right to give Linguine the restaurant. Does that mean that the business would fail? We don't know, after all Collette and Linguine both seem to be helping towards the end of the movie (it seems Linguine DID learn from Remi's repetitive actions) but regardless, by trying to change the will without permission of the original writer through unconventional means Skinner is still commiting a crime.

[@pher170]

@Boogeyman bro stop calling it remi its REMY good lord

[@dsproductions19]

"Protagonist" just means main character and "antagonist" is just the character that opposes them. They aren't really interchangeable with "hero" and "villain." Also, Skinner definitely tried to at least hide the evidence that Linguini was the rightful heir, which is why Remi stole it from him.

[@bizapottermaniaca]

But didn't Linguini's mother ask not to tell him?

[@fofnifolar]

They didn't try to make Remy look like a good guy either lmao

[@hamburrit0]

Join join jilyi

[@samhg3658]

YAAS

[@baggybants]

that's why he calls this a "theory", not a "fact".

[@lejoker9703]

But didn't Skinner try to hide the fact that Linguni was Gusteau's son and he technically was the heir to the restaurant? And didn't Remy give Linguini the letter, which made him live in a mansion. Which is 20 times bigger than his little apartment.

[@Hylian_SK]

But he only did so he could be the leader chef of the restaurant. And Skinner wanted to rescue the letter from a rat that was stealing it he didn't now that the rat was going to give the letter to linguine if Skinner didn't care he would just let Remy steal it because he thought that letter was going to get destroyed

[@mr.dantastic5073]

Sebastian Hernandez Skinner believed there was a connection between Remy and Linguini. He has ample reason to believe Linguini had something to do with Remy sneaking in.

[@poweredvoltage3213]

Skinner knew Linguini couldn’t cook himself and that the restaurant would not last long in the hands of Linguini since people would eventually find out about Remy

[@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od]

No He Didn't At All He Was Actually Suprised

[@TheFullMoon4]

"Remy, you don't stand a chance." Best line I've heard all day 💀👍🏼

[@jaco8822]

oh naw

[@killerrosebudiscool]

the fact that he STARTS the video off apologizing to another content creator for putting out a video contrasting their video just out of coincidence shows how great a guy Pat is

[@mariamarquez7889]

Yahoo its pat (no ofence i just díd it as a Joke

[@killerrosebudiscool]

@@mariamarquez7889 i don't know if i have any idea what you said, so no offense taken lol

[@SirLuckySlime]

Watching this right after watching schaff's video is honestly just hilarious

[@Anipaper_]

Pat

[@zee.lovessGod]

Do you mean when he talks about food theory? If so, that is his own channel he is talking about, not someone else's.

[@newbiegamelover4767]

I do want to correct one thing: "Protagonist" does not mean "good guy." Whether or not Remy is the good guy, he's still the protagonist, because he's the central character. To put this into perspective, Frisk is the main protagonist of Undertale regardless of the path that they take, including the Genocide path. On the opposite side of the coin, "Antagonist" does not mean "bad guy." Whether or not Skinner is the bad guy, he's still the antagonist, because he's the main conflict. To put this into perspective, if there was a story about someone who gets lost in a desert and has to figure out how to survive and get back home, the actual desert would be the main antagonist.

[@astralprophecy2419]

Was wondering if anyone else caught that.

[@MemeMan99]

Newbie Gamelover Exaclty.

[@HALO-437]

better example would be light yagamy vs L while light is the protagonist he is far from the "good guy"

[@Peep_chief2]

YOU DESERVE A SLOW CLAP

[@MemeMan99]

Newbie Gamelover 1. That desert-escape would be a great film 2. Like in Order of The Phoenix (Harry Potter) Harry is whining and constantly yells and bursts at his friends but we still root for him because he’s the protagonist.

[@Eckertainment]

might be a Film Theory but like.... dang, he's not wrong XD

[@masahiruQwQ]

He is saying it like Kairos

[@fireballrosenquist207]

If I may intervene, I would like to say that near the end of the movie, Skinner does kidnap Remy to make the rat make frozen food for Skinner's own gain.

[@isuckatmakinghandles]

@@fireballrosenquist207 skinner also uses gusteau as just a marketing tool and is basically just a money hungry little man

[@seanmadrilejo253]

​@@isuckatmakinghandles To play devil's advocate, Skinner is trying to make money by expanding the business as a whole; he's not solely trying to line his own pockets. But... Skinner also tries to cheat Linguini out of his inheritance. So...

[@madhurisattenapalli3648]

@@masahiruQwQ hello there fellow brawl stars fan :)

[@Michaelalovespandas]

So did we forget that Linguini is an adult who can make his own choices? He chose for Remy to control his movements and didn’t ask him for cooking lessons. Linguini also got all the credit for Remy’s work. You shouldn’t blame the rat for not telling a grown man how to live his life.

[@moki4541]

Yeah, tell that to everyone who has been manipulated by someone. How can all this grown man and woman just accept that. Why do someone need to tell them how to live their lifes? And who are those manipulators usually? Oh right, repetitive liars and narcissists

[@mrepicdood9953]

@@moki4541 So would you prefer for Linguini to cook on his own? The movie makes it perfectly clear that he has no cooking talent whatsoever, and that Remy and Linguini’s team up is a good work-around.

[@Algous1]

@@mrepicdood9953 matpat already said he could have trained him but no he just uses him for his own purposes

[@zerodiversion4509]

​@@Algous1 To be fair, Remy can't speak human. Besides, it's not like being a chef is the only job in a restaurant. Even if he was never meant to be a good chef, he sure did fine job as a waiter.

[@Pop-ms9zf]

@@Algous1 Could also be that Linguini LITERALLY has no talent when it comes to cooking. LITERALLY. He might not be able to smell or taste very well (outside of his atrocity that was the original soup)

[@star_lord1431]

Didn't Skinner only give Linguini a chance so he could humiliate himself?

[@luukpeeters9474]

he did give him a chance and (begrudgingly) accept the outcome

[@redpandas5301]

Also didn’t he try to stop him from finding out he is the son of gusteau?

[@digglesgiggless]

He also kept Linguini from knowing he was of rightful ownership of the restaurant.

[@digglesgiggless]

Claiming Skinner was a good person was the stretch of the century, not nearly as offensive as Mat saying Gordon Ramsey is an unlikable chef though.

[@calebleclair1960]

Skinner also only gave Linguini a chance after reading the room and seeing that his employees would lose the respect they had for him if he didn't

[@duchi882]

I'm just waiting for Schaffrillas Productions to comment at this point

[@pipmuir5377]

I'm glad I'm not the only one 😂

[@master0fthearts894]

Me too.

[@toilaconhaisam3037]

Just ask the director opinion on this theory LMAO

[@Frostwing]

same man

[@IcyDiamond]

To be honest even though a Schaff would be mad at the theory he’d probably be happy that a bigger channel like Film Theory is promoting his channel for free, it’s not even the first time MatPat has done that

[@PotatoLadies]

My sister made a point to me when I mention this to her She said that Remy is still the protagonist but he has a bad personality Protagonist is a character going after a goal and antagonist is stoping that goal Remy is the protagonist like joker in the joker is the protagonist

[@yettispaghetti6784]

Yep! No matter whether their intentions are seeing as bad or good in our eyes, if we follow their perspective in the film or book they're still the protagonist and whoever is stoping their goals are the antagonist.

[@Pitogiros16]

Yea i agree but he still is bad

[@Diegos1707]

You’re writing but we will make you feel smart

[@The-Anomalous]

the question is.. which joker? batman or ps5

[@Cman04092]

I recently found out that rats are really awesome pets, if raised the right way anyway. Makes me wanna try to get one, but they're a ton of work that I just don't have time for.

[@ryguy845]

I’m a huge schaffrilas fan and I was like “why is everyone doing ratatouille all of a sudden” when I saw this thumbnail

[@-_-murilo2865]

Lmao

[@jessicamurphy5553]

Same! 🤣

[@Givethisratsubscribers]

I changed my profile pic cuz of schaf, day 32 fan. Subbed before 100k

[@yuihoshi]

I love the theory, but you shouldn’t mix the words “protagonist” and “hero”, as well as “antagonist” and “villain”. The protagonist is just the main character, who the story is about, it doesn’t have to be the “good guy”. Specially with the several comic villains getting their own movies as protagonists, like the Joker, Suicide Squad, Venom, etc... (except this last one does turn him into the hero, but he still does a lot of bad thins before saving the Earth), Remy might be the real villain and Skinner the real hero, but that doesn’t change their protagonist and antagonist roles.

[@cheezyfish]

To add, the antagonist is just the person who opposes the protagonist.

[@zasekai7537]

i was just about to say this as protagonist just means main character and the antagonist is just the person who gets in the way of the main character i dont like when people confuse it and think antagonist just means bad guy i mean its not a big deal but it annoys me an example would be light yagami he is clearly the villain of death note but hes still the protagonist(some people think ryuk is the real protagonist but idc hes more of a deuteragonist) or in Steel Ball Run where the person who is the hero and villain is a bit muddled as Valentine does have good motives and is to an extent a better person than Johnny but Johnny is still the protagonist(Gyro might be the real protagonist but nevermind) and Valentine is still the antagonist

[@melodyrider]

A solid point. The most blatant example I can think of is Megamind, where the whole point is that the villain is the protagonist.

[@Tell.me_Why]

Yeah this is true good things that you pointed this out.

[@yawshi822]

Izabela Krawczyk or The Fast and The Furious, where criminals who are good at driving perform heists

[@rosemarieallicock9847]

You glossed over the part where was trying to not only withhold Linguini’s birth right from him, but also the fact that he knew his father was so that he could keep the restaurant for himself.

[@Ominvus]

Exactly what I was thinking. :)

[@ThEaWeSoMeNeSs11111]

Yeah but would it really have been responsible to give up his life's work to some random guy who could suddenly cook when he was doing a decent job getting the restaurant in its new business direction

[@ShadowEclipex]

@@ThEaWeSoMeNeSs11111 Skinner could of still had a job as the head chef at the Resturant even if Linguini technically owned it. It just would of meant that he had less money and had to go through someone else to get frozen food products passed. Linguini never would of had to cook a thing. Skinner did it out of greed.

[@WolfDragon-iz7wq]

I’m not at all advocating that Skinner denying Linguini his birth right is at all right but I don’t think he was in the wrong either, if anything he was trying to protect the business from falling into unreliable ownership. It takes more than knowledge in the kitchen to run a successful restaurant you also have to be business savvy or at the very least hire someone to handle it. Linguini does not have a business education and has been fired a staggering amount of times, he’s doesn’t have the formal education or work experience to run a successful restaurant.

[@MarpenGaming]

@@WolfDragon-iz7wq that doesn't change the fact that Skinner stole the restaurant from him. If he wanted it so bad, and he wasn't the bad guy, he could have bought it from him.

[@yourfavorite7518]

People think Chef’s are mean but they’re actually the most caring people I’ve met they love making others happy and keeping them safe. Like Ramsey, he be screaming & shouting but is honestly for the good of the cooks and the diners. He’s even given opportunities to lots of people out there.

[@cheesygubbins5322]

also, lots of contestants cant cook at and/or they have attitudes, like the woman who tried to slap gordon ramsey or the amount of times hes said something is raw; or when he called someone an idiot sandwich

[@WolfTrot]

​@@cheesygubbins5322 but you have to admit the "idiot sandwich" thing is funny

[@___i3ambi126]

I dont like arguing that Remy isnt the protagonist, because even if hes the villain he is technically still the protagonist. His pov is what the story is told from. Thats all it takes to solidify that title. Though lookong past semantics, its a good video.

[@darkiceking6316]

@@zackyona1916 from a pov following remy (aka) the movie he's the protagonist but a omniscient look at it says he's the antagonist

[@bluelandyaandgreenlandya1788]

@@zackyona1916 to be the antagonist you have to be against the protagonist so Remy isn't the antagonist

[@The_Biologist27]

haha remy bad brrr

[@The_Biologist27]

And that guy is good guy protecting people from rat so you guys wrong

[@RemyKBartels]

Im so abused

[@mynameisreallycool1]

This was a painful video to watch, but he's 100% right. I loved the movie, but the issue regarding the germs and the fact that the villain was technically just doing what any rational person would in his position is something that bothers me. Actually, it bothers me more that it doesn't bother more people. Is Skinner likable? No. Is he flawed? Yes. But I don't think he's really as evil as the movie makes him out to be. Though I understand that since this movie shows the perspective of Remy, Skinner is going to be the antagonist framed as being 100% evil in every way.

[@johndoe-gk9dt]

although i whole heartedly encourage Pat to continue making these videos because they are so entertaining, i have to say that i will have to heartily disagree with almost every point he brought up. Firstly, he makes the statement that remi is a stealer and a liar. That is true in this movie but i also feel like it is not the point. At the beginning of the movie they are taking food from garbage. Dare i say that this only loosely represents a case of stealing. The whole movie we see remi struggle internally with being a rat and being a human. Conforming to his rat lifestyle or conforming to his human lifestyle. walking like a human or walking on four paws like a rat, eating like a sophisticated human or eating garbage like a rat. I could go on and on, but the whole point of this push and pull about him not wanting to steal but also giving in is his battle with himself about his identity. It is about representing the internal battle within himself between what he THINKS a rat is like and what he THINKS a human should be, and consequently what he will ultimately choose to be as well. I think that it is a natural process of the human condition, to want something but to fall short but to strive to be better next time. Stealing was a more impactful way to saying that in that moment of anger, remi was led to believe that maybe he will always be a rat so he might as well act as a rat, thus becoming what he was hoping to evolve away from (cue nick’s speech in zootopia about why he has accepted that he is sly because he is a fox). It is an internal battle we all experience and it does make remi a hypocrite, but so is every fucking human being on this planet. Have you never made a mistake in a moment of anger? is it not the quintessential trait of the human experience to do something you regret but then learn from it, apologize and come clean afterwards so that you can grow and move on? As a side note, i also want to mention how lowly it is to present an argument without its context. Yes he does steal but it is within a specific moment in his life where he was contending with intense emotions that have been culminating within him the whole movie. If you take away the context, for sure you could paint anyone as the villain, but it is not true or fair, and someone that has integrity would have refrained from doing so.

[@johndoe-gk9dt]

Following that, Pat makes the argument that remi will be ready to sacrifice everything and everyone to get to his goal. That is untrue. The whole movie there is a battle within him about choosing family or his dreams. It is not an easy battle and he understands perfectly the implication it has as well. But you cannot live for someone else. This is your life, and you alone are responsible for your own happiness. This is something that his dad understand as well towards the end. “If this is important to you, then we as your family are going to support you” (or smtg like that, not ding a verbatim quoting). See, even the plot has a counter-argument to Pat’s shaky & uninsightful critiques built right into the movie. When you choose yoru dreams, you will disappoint people, you will have to make sacrifices and it will not always be pretty but in the end it is the right choice to make. Maybe your family wants you to become a doctor or a lawyer, maybe they want you to take over the family business that does not interest you in the least. Will it not hurt your parents’ feelings that they would work so hard everyday to give you these opportunities that you are wasting on going to art school and becoming a photographer? maybe, but does it mean you should drive yourself to a point of having suicidal ideations just to have a good MCAT score and be something that doesn’t light your soul on fire and make you realize that THIS IS THE REASON I AM ON THIS PLANET, this is why i am alive, every cell in my being in singing in choir and i am in total alignment with my destiny????? no. have the courage to reach for your dreams, become who you know you are in your heart, not a shadow of what others want you to be. As a side note, i dont know if the health inspector and/or skinner are left to die because gusto’s restaurant did get shut down in the end bcz of rats so…im assuming thats a no for murder in a children-friendly movie? Misleading much?

[@johndoe-gk9dt]

I will only make my last argument quickly because this is getting ridiculous and i could write for hours. Skinner was trying to exploit Gusto’s image to sell frozen foods (hm hm hypocrite-adjacent, assuming he was hired because he preached gusto’s ideals at some point, maybe perhaps?). He hid linguini’s identity from him (hm hm liar). He had anger issues and he has a superiority complex. He treated people terribly because of it and purposely made linguini’s life hard and then tried to extort him lateron. He WILLFULLY tried to make linguini DRUNK (hm hm consent, cancelled, manipulation alert???) to coerce information out of him. He called the health inspector to shut down the restaurant (ok, health concern, but if he cared about the restaurant he might’ve thought ab all the cooks there that count on this job to survive and given them a chance to clean up this rodent issue instead of RATTING (poutoum tss!) them out). He clearly had an agenda to try to get rich no matter who got hurt in the way be it linguini or his cooks that count on him to keep the restaurant in business or gusto’s legacy (hm hm selfish). I don't know why pat cherry picks his arguments (because for it to be entertaining and funny and insightful it is better if there was actually substance to the critiques) but it is very clear to me why skinner is the outright antagonist (besides ego and Anton Ego - although those get turned around at the end amirite). Skinner was decent enough to get by and confound people and earn his position as head chef. He did logical things because that’s what sane people do. You don’t trust the plongeur to cook. You should have a healthy amount of skepticism. Even the greatest cooks have been known to have a little bit of an anger issue (ie. gordon ramsay), but in the end they are people who wish for others to succeed and help them to do so even if they are not cajoling them. Not skinner. hes a villain. maybe not even the antagonist. but a villain. I will die on this hill idgaf I rest my case because i have watched 10 min of this nearly 20 min video and i have written 2.5k works and that is not okay.

[@BatgirlStan]

I mean his treatment towards linguini and chef gustou is not nice

[@goulkiss0301]

@@DecemberHeath a very long opinion apparently-

[@aliceelektra8801]

Protagonist doesn’t mean there’s a good guy it means they’re the main character of the story. The antagonist is whoever is opposed to the protagonist that also doesn’t mean that necessarily an antagonist is the bad guy. Take Death Note,Light is the protagonist because he’s the main character of the story while L is the antagonist because he is in opposition to Light.

[@HD_Animated]

True

[@shitass9304]

Yes

[@TheEternalPheonix]

Yes, thanks for pointing this out.

[@kahinamklat1428]

Stolen comment

[@kahinamklat1428]

Not cool

[@eth3tc209]

What always amazes me about the Theory Channels is that the introductions are so well done. The Pixar-themed introduction was SO cool!

[@limbobilbo8743]

Just like to say: that clip you showed of skinner “accepting he was wrong” is him trying to manipulate linguini

[@WorldinJeopardy]

It really bugged me that Matpat said that was him admitting he was wrong.

[@ytrewqmcnoggin4480]

I mean if I was head chef and the clumsy garbage boy suddenly became a master cook, I would want to test him like that too

[@JubJubtheWonderHippo]

I mean, Matpat is really bending the story to call Skinner the hero. Like really, no way was he good. If he were good, he'd tell Linguine about his dad. Instead, a rat stole a letter and told him instead. Maybe he didn't have to act legally, but I feel morally, he had to. No, want a hero? Colette. Colette is the hero, so says I.

[@michace]

Can someone explain to me how Skinner was manipulating Linguini in that clip? Please and thank you.

[@fuckbiged4839]

@@michace he was trying to get him to tell he had a rat helping him or something like that he was just trying to get him to tell that there's a rat in his hair

[@SapphiricRizzy]

Counter argument The protagonist is not necessarily the "good guy" in the story, the protagonist is just the main character and likewise the antagonist is not the "bad guy" they are just the providing conflict to the protagonist Edit* ergo Remmy is still the protagonist skinner is still the antagonist

[@shinoengimono9304]

this needs to be higher up

[@jjesusramoss]

This was literally what I was thinking at the beginning of the video. Mat went too far that he forgot the simple definition of protagonist and antagonist

[@travisimon3269]

Example: the joker

[@angellively6746]

Kind of ironic seeing thats its more of a correction than a counter argument.

[@SapphiricRizzy]

@@angellively6746 but my correction negates his entire argument of Remmy not being the protagonist

[@zarmin8596]

Disney: “I fear no man” “But that thing...” Mat pat: (makes a video about Disney) Disney: “it scares me”

[@tacoandurmom]

They better be afraid, Disney got some questionable stuff

[@aghost5434]

Lol

[@benchmarkerlovesgaming140]

"Disney' Hippity hoppaty your videos my's propertie

[@RawGameplay0]

@@benchmarkerlovesgaming140 pretty accurate

[@Thepotatoz.]

Ikr tho he is killing disney

[@ozluck721]

the chef actually did something very wrong, he knew Linguini was the actual son of Gusteau and was the true inheritor of the restaurant, but he hid Gusteau's lawyer's letter that stated that Linguini was the new owner

[@ImTitan16]

Disney characters: exist Matpat: peace was never an option

[@kevinthecockroach]

i looked at your videos

[@TheEternalPheonix]

Flying Cockroach You really got suckered with that reverse psychology, didn’t you?

[@tysonthompson9628]

*cries in pixar

[@nicosotheraccount]

“Skinner does nothing wrong” Yeah, besides hiding Gusteaus will... Edit: hide->hiding becides->besides

[@zoetheexasperatedhistorian2516]

Thank you! That was my point!

[@felciajacintha6613]

Correct it to besides not becides

[@thewarlord3719]

I'm pretty sure in the letter from linguini's mom she doesn't ask Skinner to tell linguini that gustea is his father, she just asks him to let linguini to work there edit: i just checked the scene and linguini's mother specifically asks Skinner not to tell linguini, so i think Skinner has every right to not mention it

[@artyomchyornyj9264]

@@thewarlord3719 what about Linguini's right to know who his dad is?

[@thewarlord3719]

@@artyomchyornyj9264 like i stated, linguini's mom literally asks skinner not to tell him (respect the dead man). also legally skinner has no obligation.

[@howgetuser]

also, skinner was trying to get linguine to lose his job before he ever suspected a rat was helping him and he also only tried to catch the rat so he could get rid of linguine

[@lala2686]

right, he didn’t let him cook bc he was genuinely giving him a chance, he was setting him up to be humiliated if his food was bad. i wouldn’t really say that’s a good guy quality

[@daniellepettway5009]

I mean, wouldn't you be upset if some stranger came and cheated through your own field of work/study without a single degree? Like Linguine was legit going to take Skinner's job even though he's never cooked a decent meal a day in his life and instead had a rat do the work for him.

[@Phoenix_of_Sun]

Yeah, and Skinner was trying to cover up Gusteau's will that would give linguine his birthright.

[@David-nq8cv]

@@Phoenix_of_Sun Yeah and there's another theory that Skinner was the one who murdered Gusteau, which makes more sense than him just dying by disappointment

[@michaelsponaugle4678]

not to mention that the frozen food bit was to sell out with cheap food, exploiting and farther ruining gusteau's name for a quick buck and not what matpat said

[@jjjlove2260]

Hold up. Mat, I think you're forgetting that Skinner is also villainous in his own way and just as self-serving. If I'm remembering correctly there's a scene where Skinner kidnaps Remy and tries to use him to start a new business because he saw that he could manipulate Remy and take advantage of his talents in the kitchen.

[@Flareguy]

That never happend

[@jjjlove2260]

@@Flareguy You are wrong. Watch the movie.

[@Flareguy]

@@jjjlove2260 I have this never happens

[@jjjlove2260]

@@Flareguy Yes it definitely does. There is a specific scene where Skinner does cage Remy and tells him his plans. You don't remember.

[@zerodiversion4509]

To be fair, the plan failed. If memory serves, Remy was rescued. Just because he TRIED it did not mean that it never happened.

[@travisherndon94]

Matt: Skinner did nothing wrong Me: .... You do know he kept the letter from Linguini's mother saying not to tell Linguini that he's Gusteau son and to just have a job at the restaurant. Then even when he received one hundred percent proof the Linguini is Gusteau son. He still try to keep that a secret from Linguini despite so called being Gusteau friend and right hand man when he was alive.

[@heejinators7342]

exactly what I thought

[@caleb_q7187]

Yeah i guess, but he could’ve destroyed the evidence that would’ve made him worse

[@Aihara268]

Letter stated not to tell Linguini that he's Gusteau's son, and asked for him to have a job at the restaurant, rat-a-too-ee.livejournal.com/41489.html. I think what you meant was the will that was left by Gusteau himself lul

[@moomoothecow3091]

Im guessing it was done so that the restaurant would stay in business instead of handing a restaurant to a young amateur of a boy

[@Satchel5167]

@@moomoothecow3091 That's what I was thinking too, since I remember watching the movie and the letter states just for Linguini to have a job at the restaurant

[@DrRank]

MatPat: It's everything a great G-rated movie should be. Ratatouille: Rated PG in Australia.

[@MemeMan99]

Dumb Fricker Nearly (Nearly, not every.) every Disney film is G-rated.

[@Nukepositive]

@@zarzok The Land Before Time was rated G. Somehow.

[@mariacojon1420]

@@Nukepositive wat the heak

[@bear_rrr]

Guys, Seko Seko 7 is a bot. Go ahead and report them.

[@orgashi4932]

Its just more bloody over here mate

[@fungus4932]

MatPat: Reveals Epic Games' master plan Epic Games: "If we give you money will ya shut up!?!"

[@eys6813]

Funny

[@Pibbypaws]

@@eys6813 did I just got rick rolled by your profile pic :|

[@eys6813]

@@Pibbypaws yes yes you did

[@Nari_Trovi]

that's rude to mat pat

[@Nari_Trovi]

@@eys6813 u reminded me of how rick astley himself got rickrolled on reddit

[@Juggointomarvel]

No, chef skinner did try to keep the secret of linguine owning the restaurant as he wanted to keep power. Also, I get he wanted to get rid of remy, but he made linguine DRUNK just to find a rat. When he reported the restaurant to the health inspector that wasn’t because he wanted to keep the customers safe. He didn’t own the restaurant at that point and wanted to get his revenge by shutting the restaurant down as linguine owns it.

[@colt1903]

Childhood movie nostalgia: exists MatPat: "So, you have chosen death."

[@AmberMaytions]

Well, it does say ruining your childhood since 2011 😆

[@cyan789]

This comment is so overused

[@nurdle8673]

The rat isn’t Ratatouille, it’s Ratatouille’s monster

[@domek_0]

Ratatouille is the princess

[@wowo-wo6st]

Hahaha

[@ellachristian966]

Isn’t the rat called remy?

[@aderangedmonkey24]

Kk

[@theidioticbgilson1466]

Ella Grace woosh

[@kdanimations5573]

Peaceful Disney character: exists Matpat: "that's SATAN"

[@redly3615]

Evil Character: Exsists Also Matpat: *That’s* *Jesus* *Right* *There*

[@calvinposumah6474]

Actually i always knew remy was bad

[@kdanimations5573]

@@redly3615 nice

[@mayflooer5454]

this made me laugh. thanks :D

[@lucithekidd]

he's like the water boys mamma🤣

[@princesscadance197]

Skinner has an unpleasant demeanor, but if someone not being plucky and happy is all it takes to upset you, crawl back into your bed in your parents' attic and go back to sleep, you're not ready for the real world. My supervisor at work isn't always the happiest, but I can completely understand that, she's a supervisor, it's not an easy and stress-free position, but at the same time, she'll be the first to get between an unruly customer and an employee if she feels the customer is treating her employees poorly.

[@diasteroid]

Is no one gonna talk about how Epic sponsored MatPat right after he did a whole episode on Game Theory exposing them?

[@lytuy7952]

Nah, they know the risks and they agreed with it, I guess. But they keep doing it for a better reason than what MatPat can see. And they recognize his ability as a marketing channel too. Nothing strange here.

[@taxevasiongaming]

Lol

[@dorsnis]

Epic Games:"We need to get MatPat back on our side!" Random Employee:"Oh I know! We should sponser him!" Epic Games:"Brilliant!"

[@gaygekko]

"Any exposure is good exposure"

[@SolarNawr]

Porygon Z but he already was

[@mr.pickle6724]

*I love how so many people said “first” when the first person to comment said “bruh”*

[@Kbro1]

vGodFN okay but if she breaks her word let me know riot on the mother

[@SmallLummox]

Didn't you ask the same question on another comment?

[@Spoofcaster]

he commented and i quote “EARLY”

[@Leakedloki]

It just isn’t the first comment though also vGodFN don’t comment this on every post

[@Thunder-hc2iu]

vGodFN then don’t self promote

[@tomatoroth]

The Message of the movie: Anyone can cook Linguini: *Someone who actually can't cook and has to be controlled by a rat*

[@damondgreen2239]

You know your a lost cause when a rat that lives in the sewers can cook better then you...

[@lolgameryt5010]

@@damondgreen2239 But it's just a movie that helps kids believe that they can cook.

[@tylerpatti9038]

somebody didn't pay attention to the end.

[@moimeiko]

Anyone can cook ; not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere

[@Bagofboneslvr]

LOLGamer YT i agree kids are rats! jk jk. unless?

[@Arrowalex]

Don't forget that Skinner got Linguine drunk in order to get information out of him. I feel like that's a pretty bad thing to do.

[@Auratix]

Tru

[@im_alexander6440]

“Anyone can cook” That doesn’t mean that they should.

[@c_6951]

Spoken like a true villain. Lol

[@-_-murilo2865]

Bruh

[@slevinchannel7589]

Not really a Theory... just the Truth. I always assumed everyone knows this. I mean, it's literally a Rat in the Kitchen. And the forced Kiss? Yeah, even as a little kid i knew that's wrong. And that didnt changed even after many TV Shows tried to covince me it's ok. But it never was. And it never will be.

[@jackpowell233]

Slevin Channel this theory is pretty bad, the kiss was the first step, and Colette would've gotten remy and linguini in hot water by hitting them with pepper spray. Remy steals food as an impulsive action that he regrets immediately based on his facial expression. He doesn't teach linguini how to cook so he can cook too. The protagonist's goal is going to be achieved. Skinner is a villain. He drugs linguini to try and get the truth, only to get ratta tatta, and hes using gusteau's image to sell out. This theory is not the truth, this is not what Brad bird intended.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@jackpowell233 Yet, the Rat is still a Villain too. Whatever he intended it or not, the signs are clear. So clear that even Brad Birds intend is questionable. If he really thought this Rat is a good little Being, than he's delusional. Cause that's being a bad person.

[@remy927]

I am contacting my lawyers to sue “Film Theory”.

[@godricktheminecrafted3113]

Says the guy who has made several people sick, kidnapped and gagged two people, and left his entire pack for dead by not bothering to teach someone else how to check for poison I guarantee, the lawsuit will end in rat poison

[@BlueNoBudget]

Remmy what you doin on film theory

[@sluggishsloth2]

REMY I THOUGHT I KNEW YOU!!!

[@tunaburger5892]

Yesss get that coin from the defamation

[@rabbitgutz6556]

I THOUGHT I COULD TRUST YOU!!!!

[@AnnaS-es2yr]

*Hey MatPat!* So I’ve just been thinking about TinkerBell lately. Specifically her wings- she tucks them into her coats, yet when she’s wearing a closed-back outfit- her wings are just *magically* through the fabric. At first I thought that it was something like a “oh it’s just magic” but really? Like- you can touch her wings- they can break and stuff, but they go through sold things like fabric? Anyways, just something to think about. If you could make a video on it, it would be much appreciated. (This has haunted me for FOREVER)

[@defensivekobra3873]

prolly just some nonsense about the fabric itself being magic, or the act of putting it on infuses it with some subtle enchantment making it an extension of their skin, or the gaps are just to small to see

[@himynameisoliver]

defenseive kobra o-o

[@somnodaur8064]

Next up, the science behind Tiana turning into a frog. Why the rugrats can talk to each other, it’s movie magic stop asking questions.

[@EzekiesAcheron]

I imagine they have really thin slits which are so thin they can't really be seen, which her wings fit through. Either that or magic, because she only covers her wings with a coat because in the snowy area they'll freeze if she doesn't.

[@smolglitch]

Well, this doesn't happen with every coat. In one of the movies I remember seeing a long time ago (it was something like Frozen Wings where she finds her twin or something) where one of the points was where Tinker couldn't fly with the coat on.

[@voltron77]

I am not gonna let you destroy my childhood once again, remy is a great character!

[@kendallonian9753]

In the case of teaching Linguini, the phrase 'anyone can cook' is explained by Ego in his review: "Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere."

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

I do want to point something out here, the motto “Anyone can cook” is not supposed to be taken at face value, it’s not mean to be a literal interpretation, and I’m gonna take a page out of Anton Ego’s actual review here: “....In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau’s famous motto: “Anyone can cook.” But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. *Not everyone can be a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere.* “ The whole point of the phrase is not that Linguini could be a good cook, but that the genius of Remi is not only plausible, but that it is expected and that it has merit, in whatever way it can be expressed. Remi isn’t being hypocritical in that respect, he is simply being pragmatic.

[@kolbymiller3440]

Honestly, yeah, this is true. But what remi does still isn't very good. Sure, you can take away the hypocriticalness of that.... but there are still some major problems with what Remy does.

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

Kolby Miller Oh yeah sure, kidnapping is still very, very bad. Like my god man

[@testerwulf3357]

I always took “everyone can cook” as literal. Everyone CAN cook, but not everyone can cook _good_ Anyone could cook anything, this isn’t a lie, but a lie would be that anyone can be good at it. Cooking isn’t for everyone.

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

Tester Wulf :3 Yeah. That’s why taking it literally is confusing, because that’s not to meaning that is trying to be conveyed. It’s *true*, but that’s an incorrect interpretation

[@EtsuMatsuya]

Your not wrong, but Remi is clearly doing some shady business to further his own ends. They might be pragmatic, but that still doesn't make them not morally questionable if not wrong. I mean half the time if Remi had just talked/communicated many of the issues might have been solved. It is shown he can clearly read the movie's primary language(which would probably be French if we are being real). So could he not write? Explain things to people yeah it would be a stretch, but I am sure many of the issues could have been dealt with if they took the time to solve them as a group. Which would have been a far more pragmatic response than the shenanigans for the sake of shenanigans in the movie?

[@nastolgem476]

He hides that fact that linguine is gusteau's son so he can run the restaurant by himself that is illegal

[@eaglescout1984]

Exactly. As for why he doesn't destroy the evidence despite the fact it would solve the problem, as they say in Pitch Meetings "Because".

[@AlexEvanScott]

@@eaglescout1984 That works.

[@TheNightsVengeance]

Mando means Mandalorian

[@IcyDiamond]

Most likable protagonist

[@fuduzan5562]

@@eaglescout1984 Ignoring plot holes is tight

[@nourmansi8263]

Mattpatt conveniently forgets to mention skinner’s biggest crime, trying to deny the fact that linguni is gusteau’s son, even though he had undeniable proof (the dna test) just so that he can become the owner of the restaurant and be gusteau’s sole heir!!!!!

[@h3llolime222]

Remy didn't "abandon" his colony. when that old lady was shooting at the rats it was also storming out. Remy was floating on his book while the rest of his colony was on something else farther ahead. he couldn't reach them before they went out of sight. he didn't know which way they went so he went the wrong way. he stayed down in the sewers for days waiting for them until his hunger got the best of him. obviously, when he found his colony he could've gone back, but he never initially intended to leave his colony.

[@_Ruhm_]

“When he found his colony he could’ve gone back” sooo he abandoned the colony?

[@ORIGINALFBI]

@@_Ruhm_ No. He didn't mean to lose them. He means if he found them before the whole restaurant thing he would have stayed

[@snauspockets9924]

By the time he was reunited with his colony he was pursuing his dreams as a chef. This scenario happens often in humans. The family needs somebody to come back and run the business instead of pursuing their dreams elsewhere.

[@2insaneforu103]

But he went back for the book, making him selfish and pretty much abandoning his colony

[@classyrobot5648]

@@2insaneforu103 yikes dude. That's more than just a stretch

[@X-SPONGED]

Mat : "skinner hasn't done anything wrong" That one grand theft auto scene with the soes chef's moped : ... Bribery for fresher products : ... Trying to hide evidence that Linguini is the rightful heir : ...

[@masonjones7777]

Tarnishing Geusteos name with cheap microwave meals.

[@thatoneguy1350]

@@روائعالدراما-ق9ج what dose a video about software have to do with anything

[@Frankly_Amazing2000]

Owen DeCarlo it’s just a bot

[@Frankly_Amazing2000]

Not to mention he naps remey near the end to use him to make him more money

[@8teezy]

Didn’t u hear what he said abt that? Skinner made gourmet quality meals available to hundreds who wouldn’t have had access to it. That is in no way a bad thing. The man was revered for the quality of his food. There wasn’t any drop in quality just repackaging and making it easier to prepare. Just because the food wasn’t exclusively available in fancy restaurants doesn’t mean he tarnished his name. In fact I’m actually inclined to think that he would have wanted it that way as now more people could enjoy his food

[@neriumprotostar]

Soooo, skipping the scene where he manipulates Linguine with alcohol? No? We’re not gonna talk about that? O-ok 👌

[@Hhhh22222-w]

That's perfectly fine, it was consensual

[@ethang.8238]

this whole video is biased anyway

[@neriumprotostar]

Hara Yanto it might’ve seemed like it to the viewers and Linguine but it was actually a form of psychological manipulation. This type of manipulation is more subtle but nonetheless it can still be very harmful especially if the situation turns out very bad. The victim will end up feeling like whatever went wrong was their fault in the end resulting in more harm than what was already done. This was a real life example but back to the cartoon. In this case Linguine was refusing alcohol and stopped at a decent amount of it too. He knew when to stop and how much he could take. Skinner however continued to press and insist. Given the way Linguine is and the power level Skinner has over Linguine it would make it impossible to refuse. It’s much like a patient dating their therapist, it’s illegal because the patient isn’t on the same level as them making refusing difficult and not fair. He manipulated him in efforts to get information out of him. Personal information that wasn’t his to know. He intoxicated him by making it seem like it was Linguine’s choice when it really wasn’t. Sorry for the psychology report but it’s kind of concerning you though this to be consensual when it wasn’t at all in any way. You can’t look at the surface level of human emotion, psychology, etc. It goes far deeper.

[@neriumprotostar]

Ethan G. I agree 100%. He skipped out all of the devious things Skinner had done. Manipulate, withhold important information probably more. I’ve always felt sympathy for him even as a child and didn’t see him as “evil” or a “villain” per say but he wasn’t any better than Remy. We need to remember Remy is a rat. No matter how human he may act. He wasn’t raised with the same morals humans have. He isn’t human so why would he care about “stealing”. He stated he did but part of me feels like him saying that was his efforts to be more ‘human.’ None of the rats truly cared wether they stole or not, not even the dad, the only reason he didn’t was because of the threat humans posed, NOT because of morality.

[@taras9655]

@@neriumprotostar he can read and understand english, i dont doubt hes aware of human morals as well

[@johnmatson5969]

Actually Skinner did do one wrong thing, upon learning that the garbage boy Linguini was actually gusteau's biological son, he did try to prevent him from inheriting it by hiding the letter until it was too late for the will to be contested and he could remain in charge and sole owner, but he didn't destroy the evidence that's true, so aside from that his crime largely is just looking like a villain And the rats should definitely have sanitized more but it was possible they could have been clean

[@velvaetalt]

matpat: “shafferillas productions-“ me: “y es.”

[@spiderodoom]

I know, it’s so weird to watch that review to jump to this

[@maryhadalamb3313]

I love Shafferillas, at first I was just thinking about how it was funny that Mat made a Ratatouille theory not long after Shafferillas, and then I felt sorry for him.

[@x-manxavier7309]

There’s a difference between “protagonist” and “hero”. Hero is the term we use to show who is “good” by society’s standards. Protagonist is simply the term we use to define a character in a story told from their point of view. An antagonist is simply the character who tries to stop the protagonist. A villain is society’s “bad guy”. Just clarification on vocabulary

[@sentinel_unmaykr]

“Haha Nerd” This is a joke if anybody gets mad

[@spokyjuice.5268]

Deltarune: Susie=hero Kris=protaganist

[@bluedragonninja]

I remember have this argument with my high school English teacher, when i pointed this out. She didn't believe me. missed the next day class due to a doctors appointment, but on that day the examples that where used proved me right. She was a bit embarrassed about it. The next day she saw me, she apologized to me in class. all good.

[@KhanGarth]

Light from Death Note is very much the protagonist but he's the villain, where as L is the antagonist but the hero (ignoring Near and Mello because they were dumb characters).

[@alastorlapid2365]

@@KhanGarth Light is more of anti villain.

[@puffersaur6422]

Matpat 2 years ago: makes a theory about Dorothy being faking lost of memories Matpat now: Remy is evil Me: *feels nostalgia*

[@lolgameryt5010]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@IcyDiamond]

It really does

[@LakesideWoes]

What

[@liamk3451]

nice pfp

[@therealaussie3250]

matpat missed the part that chef skinner tries to kidnap remy to cook at a new restaurant hes making.

[@ramtailthebattlertr2066]

Okay, Remy may not be the hero, but good or not, he's still the protagonist, the main character. Skinner is the largest character against him, so he's the antagonist by definition

[@feraligatrmaster9918]

This guy knows.

[@travismurtland3257]

Despite also being the single smallest human lol

[@Its_shakur]

English seminar gang

[@BlackCat-fx9kb]

He called remy the villain not the antagonist although he is wrong about calling skinner the protagonist he should have said hero.

[@benniek1050]

I think death note makes the perfect case for this fallacious line of thinking. Too often we equate the protagonist with the good guy. Some of that might just be us projecting our own lives into thinking that we are the good guys and also the protagonist, but regardless, I appreciate a good show that can push the norms and subvert our expectations in a 4D chess move. Like that one guy said in Wreck-it-Ralph, "Just because you're a bad-guy, doesn't mean that you're a bad guy"

[@VelvetCroweisHere]

Doesn't Skinner kidnap Remy near the end saying how he was planning to open his own restaurant and have Remy cook for him instead? 🤔🤔

[@47ratsinahoodie]

I mean, knowing about a rat and being able to have it clean itself thoroughly and properly would be better than having a rat sneak around with its friends, dirtying everything. Skinner isn't right for kidnapping Remy but trying to have a good chef cook for him doesn't necessarily seem bad to me.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

I knew there was a reason calling skinner a hero a stretch

[@47ratsinahoodie]

@@unbeatengamer755 If Remy became the star chef of the hypothetical restaurant, Skinner would have to care about Remy being safe and healthy or else his restaurant's success would plummet.

[@47ratsinahoodie]

@@unbeatengamer755 Well, it's been a while since I've watched the movie so I can't comment on what Skinner did after Gusteau. But, it would be incredibly stupid for Skinner not to care about Remy. I think that if they had time to become less like enemies and more like acquaintances, Skinner would feel more obligated to keep Remy safe.

[@47ratsinahoodie]

@@unbeatengamer755 Yeah, you're right there.

[@1996squareenix]

Matpat: Remy is an unsanitary narcissist who only cares about his art Me: Okay but he's French so we been knew.

[@SUGARWITCH3]

Ok that was funny lol

[@remydupart1853]

Melde

[@butwhy7138]

DONT LIKE it's at 420 :)

[@jeffrospyro4654]

lmaoooooooo 😂😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqjYlIywq7Ooqa8

[@Noam_.Menashe]

@@remydupart1853 ??

[@opheebopplayz2148]

Well I don’t mean to be rude matpat but when you said Remy doesn’t teach the garage boy to cook, the reason why Remy can’t talk to humans because Animals can’t talk in real life

[@Ringo-Was-His-Namo]

"Anyone can cook" But a guy literally watching and doing the cooking can't pick anything up? Nothing at all? Remy might be a bad guy, but Linguini is legit useless until they put skates on the man.

[@raulruizdevelasco6215]

😂😂😂 So true. Remy’s not a bad guy, though. There are several arguments in the comment section that disprove the theory.

[@brittlebone00]

Jodyas Rahardja We found the loop hole

[@tosinakin2508]

Never understood that one. He's so clumsy he topples a heavy pot of soup at work, but is also a masterful rollerskater? Clearly, two plus two must also equal fish.

[@nathenewendzel884]

He was only working there for a day before Remy showed up.

[@Misto_deVito6009]

He's not a BAD guy. He's a good guy that does bad things. That doesnt make him necessarily bad

[@daveyio9525]

I wouldn’t trust a rat who controls me by pulling my hair either

[@chillblox8]

lol sureeee

[@chillblox8]

nice try clout baiter but i dont think you're gonna earn much likes well yea maybe a month in the future

[@pentabump]

@vGodFN S H U T

[@missfortune3123]

Me too

[@sus_amongus7097]

My hair would die

[@creepyblacky8325]

Yeaaah, no. I love each of Matpat's vids, but this one just doesn't stand for me. And it's really not just cause I like the movie, the points just don't really stand for me ',:/ for example you could try telling me everything you want to prove your points, Skinner is definitely not a good business man or chef. He doesn't "admit when he's wrong" , he only does it because everyone's watching and he doesn't wanna ruin his image in front of his employees, but it's definitely not out of pure recognition and regret toward his mistake. Secondly he calls the hygiene inspector because he doesn't want the restaurant to go on without him. He's basically like 'if I can't be at the head of this restaurant, no one will'. Not what I call fair business. Also, Remy technically CAN'T teach Linguini how to cook. Skinner asks to redo the soup in one week to prove he has talent at cooking. Teaching someone to cook perfectly in one week, especially when ya can't talk to them seems pretty hard to me. As for the 'poison detector talent' thingy, Remy didn't even know he'd have to teach it to someone else in the colony before he got taken away from his family. And when he does meet them back, he can't just go back to the colony, take the time to teach one of his fellow rats how to detect poison when clearly their sense of smell is way less developed than his own which makes the task harder, while the restaurant AND Linguini litteraly need him to go on, besides his family has apparently managed to start avoiding rat poison.

[@elihurtt2066]

Yeah I agree. There was also a Kirby theory on Game theory a while ago that was just grasping at straws to make Kirby seem worse than he is. I think it must be hard to always find something worth making a video about once a week, so some aren’t great.

[@rosed1481]

I agree! A big portion of the “evidence” that matpat has for remy being selfish and evil are just clips taken out of context. For example, the part where Remy agrees to let the rats steal from the kitchen comes because Remy is extremely frustrated with linguini, as well as the pressure of his brother bringing more and more rats to the kitchen. He was just looking out for his rat pack, and he thought he was in control of the situation (gusteau is a figment of his imagination so he was telling himself not to worry about it). Even his first point doesn’t make sense. Remy is the protagonist but Skinner is not necessarily the antagonist. Matpat is the one who missed the meaning of the movie entirely. It’s about how anyone, no matter their origin, can achieve something incredible, and that people shouldn’t be held back by others’ prejudices or expectations of them. Skinner is undoubtably a selfish, money-hungry sexist-and matpat wants to call him the “hero” of the story instead of Remy, a rat that just wanted to follow his dream? Not to mention, the protagonist is not always the good guy of the story.

[@beatrizpaz367]

POINTS WERE MADE!

[@mybittersweetme]

Remy might’ve had some negative points on his side (given that flawed characters are a thing), but that doesn’t make Skinner the good guy in the story. Besides what you already mentioned, Skinner also *kidnaps* Remy with the intent of *forcing* him to create a new line of frozen foods. Moreover, he purposefully hid the Linguini’s mom letter so that he would keep the restaurant that was not rightfully his, and he wanted Linguini to fail so bad that he would even put the good name of the restaurant at risk by making Linguini cook for *real customers* something supposedly so nasty that Gusteau himself recognized as a failed recipe.

[@doodleproductions7552]

Not only that, but I believe repetitive motions (even if they're done unconsciously) did actually help Linguine cook better. By the end of the movie he's helping Remy cook in the kitchen a little. Linguine is learning how to cook, just in a different method. For example, if the teacher told me to do this one math problem without any teachings (and me just knowing the basics as I'm sure Linguine knew), then did the problem multiple times with me without teaching me anything, at one point I will probably figure out how she's doing the problem. By doing the recipe over and over again Linguine not only memorized it but he probably has the chopping motion DOWN. It's just irrational to think that Remy didn't teach Linguine when he DID just not in the conventional method that most of us use.

[@azteckgaming1700]

Idk what it takes nor how much money, when I grow up I am making a movie that film theory CANT RUIN

[@matthewyounan315]

lets not forget even though skinner didnt destroy evidence of liunguini being geusaus son he was keeping it a secret for quite a while

[@jaym.9275]

He has no obligation to inform him of the fact. Even his lawyer tells him all he has to do is not say anything until the deadline passed

[@matthewyounan315]

@@jaym.9275 well I think it is the morally right thing to do but you do have a point

[@kyleeslagter77]

He did that to make sure it was true tho. He got a lawyer and everything. Therefore, skinner still followed the law! Not being mean just honest.

[@matthewyounan315]

@@kyleeslagter77 1. he didn’t get a lawyer it was his lawyer he had worked with before 2. Even after he got dna tests that came positive he still kept it a secret

[@kyleeslagter77]

@@matthewyounan315 1. That was his lawyer and doesn't make me wrong. 2. He was following the advice of that lawyer which is legal.

[@bucca2]

Don’t forget that Gusteau’s CLOSES DOWN at the end of the movie. Remy is so selfish, he didn’t even care about the legacy of the chef he idolized.

[@nutpeg6915]

You got hearted noice.

[@loafie_bread]

Oh Lord you’re right-

[@pcvrisepic]

bucca2 not like he really had a choice

[@atsushi6622]

that happened bc he was trying to save the restaurant.

[@tutin9930]

Heartless rat

[@cathygrandstaff1957]

Skinner actively covers up Linguini’s true identity as Gusteu’s son. Now you can argue he had more right to the restaurant than Linguini, Skinner helped build the business, after Gusteu’s death he’s continued to do that. By contrast Linguini is Gusteu’s son, but he has no skill as a chef, the only reason Linguini even looks like he should inherit the restaurant from a competence perspective is due to Remmy’s puppetry.

[@werekitty93]

This so much. If Skinner had gone about it better, he could have told Linguini he was the heir, but become a partner or something since Linguini didn't really know ANYTHING about the restaurant business. He could even go as far as to have asked (or brought it to court or something) about Linguini then selling Skinner the restaurant. Linguini doesn't know what he's doing, so I think he would've gone along with selling the place to Skinner. I had recently rewatched Ratatouille (prior to seeing this episode) and I never really got the impression that Skinner was altruistic about his feeling towards keeping the kitchen rat-free. If anything, I felt that the story was pointing to Skinner ruining the business by going the frozen food route. The restaurant lost a star from Ego, a star from Gusteau's death, and so Skinner was trying to save it with the frozen food option but was failing. Something that, as an avid Kitchen Nightmares watcher, has the potential to backfire and become worse for the restaurant. which is absolutely happening in this movie. But that's just my theory - a commenter theory.

[@Gustavo-po9bd]

When I was a kid I wanted that rat to die, the I realized he was good, and now he saying he needs to die again.

[@americanexotics5919]

@@Gustavo-po9bd good news Remmy is probably on his deathbed since wild rats tend to only live 2 to 3 years

[@deliciousdisheswithdg4227]

I agree this one is a little bit too far fetched.

[@marshmallowvampire8503]

True. Also, it was an example of a good plot twist

[@harlequinrose3743]

I have a complaint about skinner: When he tastes the soup, he uses the spoon which was already used by Collete. This goes against EU food safety rules. (other than that, I agree with you).

[@artgirl3210]

Hate to be that person lol, but "protagonist" doesn't mean "good guy." It means main character of the movie. Hannibal, Joker, Light Yagami, and Dexter were all protagonists even though they were also the bad guys.

[@bloom9075]

dexter was the villain? nvm i guess he is pretty bad ok now i understand alot more okay yeah no hes definetly the villain

[@bee-_-]

I love death note it is one of my favorite anime's.

[@milkthathasspoiled]

that’s generally known as an anti-hero though.

[@motheawesome]

Caleb Theisens Anti Hero is a hero with no heroic traits. Example Deadpool- kills everyone on sights but he does it in his own self interest and he lacks morality. Same goes for Venom Punisher and Red Hood

[@milkthathasspoiled]

MotheAwesome ah, thank you. guess i need to pay more attention in english lmao

[@carolyngrant791]

Gets sponsored by Fortnite right after doing a theory about Epic Game’s plan to take over. Hmmm... It makes you think 🤔

[@ShadowCooper77]

Yeah like dang how much did they pay him

[@generalkuros56]

Hes right that means

[@Yougotcaged102]

Tryin' to get Mat off there tale

[@marshmallow6276]

Skinner wasn’t going to tell Linguini that he was Gusto’s son so he could keep the restaurant. So I guess this movie just has 2 antagonists. 3 if you include Ego.

[@asianmiIk]

skinner also kidnaps remi and gets linguini drunk.

[@wishfuldentochoosensilver3923]

He got Linguini drunk to make him admit he carries a rat around the restaurant and Linguini’s mom didn’t want Linguini to know he was Gusteau’s son. She just wanted him to have a guaranteed job so she told Skinner the trush because Linguini said himself how he needs one

[@marshmallow6276]

Linguini still had the right to know

[@pepe2veces]

Skinner also doesn't follow the sanitary code, if you found a rat in your restaurant you are obligated to make a full-on pest control, not just hide the fact to the authorities

[@fabulousslob3748]

There`s always at least 2 antagonists.One is just usually selected as main character.

[@Hypnotic__Huskk]

“Grumpy old matpat is here to ruin another animated family film from my childhood as usual!!” An quote

[@notagoat281]

10:06 Uh, doesn't he try to hide the fact that Linguini is Gusteau's rightful heir so he can keep the restaurant for himself, despite the fact that, as far as he knows, Linguini being in charge would actually be a good thing for everyone? 13:43 Again, I specifically remember a chase sequence where they had to retrieve the document proving Linguini is the rightful heir after Skinner tried to get rid of it.

[@hamu08]

You're right. Skinner also was pocketing all the money from the frozen food sales. He also tried to kidnap Remy so Remy could cook for him.

[@notagoat281]

@@hamu08 : I forgot about him trying to kidnap Remy, and at first I misunderstood, thinking you were saying Skinner wanted to cook for Remy. I was very confused.

[@hamu08]

@@notagoat281 lol

[@mezrahmasada5494]

This was NOT MatPat’s best theory

[@calebestill4119]

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[@herosama19]

Visible confusion

[@Kevin-ib5ie]

Hah that funny

[@ellastrange2175]

Listen, money is money

[@thatoneguyontheinternet9765]

I thought the same thing, matpat we gotta focus our alliances here!

[@happythepanda9954]

You gotta pay the bill somehow.

[@kirose]

Matpat: "This movie from your childhood..." Me: "No, I was an adult when.... Oh...Oh no...I'm getting old."

[@sircheese6557]

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[@kurtis9272]

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[@melsluvs]

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[@maplestick2369]

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[@emirqaiser3930]

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[@-THE_REAL_Denki_Kaminari-]

I kept telling you guys I wasn’t evil but NoOoOo let’s keep letting remy spread the PlAgUe

[@alanaellerson7456]

But like Skinner captured Rémy specifically to make him a slave and have him keep creating frozen meals to make him money.

[@elihurtt2066]

He also was willing to have his restaurant receive a bad review from a critic in the beginning just so he could put Linguini on the spot and have him look incompetent

[@dr.atheist3087]

Also he got Linguini drunk and instead of giving him the will he hid it.

[@OgreManGaming]

And hiding Linguni’s birthright from him.

[@Freekymoho]

Turns out all you really need for a film theory is convinient cherrypicking!

[@jonblu]

All the hygene problems of Remi comes from ignorance, not evil. Also He didn't have time to train other rat to smell poison since he got separated from his family when he was still working at that charge.

[@TheCoomMan]

also how was he supposed to teacher him how to cook if he’s a rat that a human can’t undertsamd

[@Vas-73]

He did point that out. You can't be ignorant about the health risks AND worry about a hygiene inspector at the same time.

[@J-manli]

But there was that scene where Emile brought Remi back to the colony, giving Remi the perfect opportunity to train someone in sniffing out poison. But as Matpat said, he was quick to rush back to the kitchen ASAP without a second thought.

[@umariqbal7557]

it still does not negate the fact there was a health code violation and when he met his family back he did not return to help them.

[@umariqbal7557]

@@J-manli Its actually a bit hard for someone born with a biological trait to share it with someone else though. But he could at least tell them certain differences. I agree that he did have the time to do it

[@rchelimsky]

Me: * watching this * * Looks over to my Remmy stuffed animal across the room * Don't listen to him. *but you are narcissist sometimes*

[@christoperbarretto8823]

Ok

[@allister6092]

Woody: *THERE'S A RAT IN MY BOOT*

[@mazzucac]

I think that if your stuffed animal rat is acting like a narcissist sometimes, you have some serious problems on your hands.

[@rchelimsky]

@@mazzucac *I really do-*

[@rabbitgutz6556]

Lol

[@MiguelAngel_-ue1bm]

But... Remmy didn't go to become a chef intentionally... He lost his way, and since he thought he had lost his family, he deciced to have his own new life.

[@beatertlwonline9642]

me: well actually Remy IS still the protagonist, but a protag doesn't have to be a good guy.

[@axehead45]

AKA an Anti-hero

[@MrPP.]

Ainz Ooal Gown and Tanya the evil are good examples

[@karamyers286]

Movies like maleficent

[@yettispaghetti6784]

Ah, I was about point this out!

[@noumenine6474]

@@axehead45 That isn't what "anti-hero" means...

[@cthulhuwua5354]

Alright, a couple of things. 1: Remy in the Colette kiss scene is not only protecting himself from getting discovered, possibly costing him his life, he is also protecting Linguine from getting pepper-sprayed since he knew Coletta liked Linguine. 2: When Remy does steal food from the kitchen for his family which is a crime, but in one of the scenes you did show, Linguine had given him the food prior to Emile showing up. I'm not saying this discredits his theft, I would just like it if you used the scene in the right context. 3: In the lightning scene, Emile didn't have time to finish his warning. Second, he didn't know that the lightning strike would happen. He didn't know that there would be a chance to get struck. 4: He does care about other people. He gives food to his family so that they don't possibly get poisoned, even though this could have cost him his chance at cooking. He cares about Linguine enough to ally with him and help him keep his job, not just because he wants to be a cook. 5: He doesn't abandon his family to become a chef. He gets separated from them and is therefore unable to be poison checker. When he is reunited with his family, he gives them the food from the food closet so that they don't eat the potentially poisoned garbage they were eating. 6: The biting was to one person, Linguine, in one scene. He does not continue to bite throughout the movie. This may not have been what you meant but it still matters how frequent and how many he bites to understand risk. 7: There is a language barrier between our two protagonists. Remy is a rat who can't directly communicate with humans. This would have made it extremely difficult for Linguine who doesn't show any signs of wanting to learn. He simply wants Remy to help him, not teach him. 8: Skinner wants Linguine to fail even after he proves himself. He intentionally gives him a recipe even Gusteau said was a failure. He also after receiving the news of Linguine parenthood via a DNA test, doesn't follow through on Gusteau's will, stating that if his heir is found within some odd years, he will become the rightful owner of the restaurant. Remy steals the documents to make it known that Linguine is the rightful heir. It does sound like Game of Thrones, but the was the wording in Gusteau's will. He also commits grand theft auto in the chase scene where he steals one chef's moped and wrecks it. Conclusion: While you are right about some of the events in Ratatouille, you seem to have misinterpreted some character motivation, not only in believing that Remy is heartless towards his family and friends but also in skinner, who actively goes against the will of his business partner. I may not be entirely accurate, feel free to correct me, but there are some substantial holes in this theory. Edit: Also thinking about this logically, the lady on the farm poisoned her trash because she wanted to get rid of some of the rats. When you're in a big city like Paris, trash is unavoidable, and there really isn't a way to stop the rats from growing in population. It is very unlikely that there would be a substantial amount of poison in the garbage.

[@Rikkilover17]

I mean as long as you can protect yourself from getting found out as a fraud by all means force somebody into kissing. He didn’t care about his family. He didn’t even go looking for them for a second after CAUSING them to lose their home. He went straight into the restaurant and didn’t look back even looked down on other rats eating his restaurants left overs until he realized it was his families. He let them eat out the kitchen because he wanted to impress his dad not because he felt bad they were homeless and hungry.

[@cthulhuwua5354]

@@Rikkilover17 You know what. That's fair. Thank you for not getting pissed at me just because I disagreed with matpat.

[@FatherSquirn]

@@cthulhuwua5354 He doesn't come off as angry. He just has points HE disagrees with YOU on, and that's ok. Everyone has their own views on different situations :)

[@MrNotcody]

ive never disagreed with him more very disappointed

[@Goldy12378]

Very apt analysis! I was having trouble articulating my problems with this theory, but your comment does all that and more :D Great job!

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

Actually, Skinner is guilty of a crime, fraud. He attempted to conceal the fact that Linguini is Gusteau’s child, and the rightful owner of the restaurant, and that is very much illegal. If Linguini had decided to sue Skinner after the fact, he could have requested the letter as a relevant document, which would be proof, or if not evidence of fraud

[@acebalistic1358]

Spoilers

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

Anthony Luna-Diaz Yes, he doesn’t destroy the evidence, but he doesn’t publicly disclose it, which is illegal, considering he isn’t the rightful owner and manager of the restaurant according to Gusteau’s will, as Linguini would be the legal beneficiary

[@angrynoodletwentyfive6463]

Too be fair, While it is a crime... If you look at it from skinner's perspective, considering what he has just gone through, it might not be as antagonistic as it comes off as at first... I mean the guy had just lost one of his best friends whom he had worked with for a very long time, and his best friend died of grief after losing a star on his beloved restauraunt. He is now doing everything within his power to keep the restaurant above water, and restore it's former prestige. And then his biological son who is VERY CLEARLY not in any way qualified to run such a business might take it and... let's be honest he would have run it into the GROUND... I mean he literally brings rat's into the restaurant. I can kind of understand where, acting out of said grief and a panic of losing the restaurant he might have made such a poor decision. I'm not saying the guy does nothing wrong, but If we are to assume that he is on some level acting out of grief, it doesn't neccesarily mean he was a terrible person just that he did a bad thing, as a result of intense emotional trauma. Same goes for remy... I mean yeah, he is pretty selfish at times, but he is not doing things out of a disinterest in the safety of others, he is simply passion blind and while he... arguably maybe should have learned a lesson about not catching others up in the crossfire... he is hardly a meanspirited person.

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

Angrynoodle Twenty Five Perhaps. But even intense emotional problems, which Skinner does not seem to possess, perhaps mild anger issues, it would take something else to get him to violate the law. And the fact that his lawyer is aware of this would also make said lawyer culpable in this crime. Idk, it’s a puzzling situation with fuzzy morality

[@aleh9382]

0:21 “Wait what? I’m a lovable cartoon character on a kids movie, what could I have done?” Tax evasion