First impressions of another Saturn

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[@BeBop9889]

Elegoo, get this man more printers! Hands down best channel out there reviewing 3D printers.

[@SmugglerBoutique]

This channel has been such a wealth of knowledge for anyone getting into 3d printing. Top notch quality as always

[@panzerschreckpete]

Elegoo, as someone about to take the leap into Resin Printing for the first time, being able to watch this channel for an objective, user-focused, and practical review/first look is so important when making the decision on what to buy. Get this guy your printers! If I can't make an informed decision from an objective, user-focused look, I'm not spending. Appreciated the practical printing suggestions that all too often are unspoken by people - assumed knowledge is a real hurdle for someone just starting with Resin Printing - I come from an FDM background and the only resin knowledge I have is as a end user purchaser of finished resin products so basically zero. One of the things that I'm finding is just how much ancillary stuff you need to have before you even contemplate your first print - Washing, Drying, Curing plans and solutions, Resin and materials disposal, even locating a source for Resin that is within the budget. I think the printer itself can end up only accounting for around 25-50% of the initial setup costs if you are starting from scratch. Far different from FDM for sure.

[@OnceinaSixSide]

Very true! You gotta setup a whole printing pipeline.

[@3deprintingwizard]

Elegoo, this guy is hands down the best youtuber for anything to do with anything on the whole platform. GET THIS MAN HIS PRINTERS!! He is literally saying amazing stuff about ur printers without even owning one! I repeat, GET THIS MAN HIS PRINTERS!!

[@RisingApe]

Elegoo, send him a Saturn 4! But send one to me first!

[@3deprintingwizard]

Lol😂

[@OnceinaSixSide]

Haha, yes let's go Elegoo! More review units all around

[@RoseKindred]

For most of us, "last gen" is perfectly fine. The updates to the newest printers, such as tilting plates and heated vats, are just niceties. I have multiple Mars3P and looking for more to keep for parts.

[@cmdrsausage9669]

Elegoo, this man is the quintessential Aussie 3d printing with a focus on miniatures youtuber! Easy to digest content, easy going attitude and actual honesty when it comes to products. Get in there son!

[@PotatoGaming8141]

legendary intro right there

[@FrazzledDadsMinis]

Also, thank you for once again showing great vat cleaning tips (41:00 ish). You're terrific at constantly providing high-value pointers for improving the printing hobby!

[@madmanwithaplan1826]

As someone who struggled to learn how to shuffle cards well into my twenties. I love this channel because it does what none of those card shuffle tutorials did. It slows down and goes through everything step by blood step and makes no assumptions of assumed knowledge. My most liked comment ever probably has close to 300k likes abmnd it was the basic explanation that you keep your thumbs parallel to the card stacks when you wiffle shuffle. MORE LIKES THAN THE VIDEO HAD. The dude even remade the video to how this simple step that eluded everyone. But once in a six side will make sure people know for sure what you're printer is capable of so if your confident in your product be confident in his ability to share it.

[@crispy_338]

I love my Saturn 2. Really great entry model. No real need for any upgrade

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

I agree, it wasn't my entry model, but it sure is my favourite.

[@jasonnewman3355]

So I honestly think there is huge value in a review timed like this. I feel like every generation of printer gets new people into the hobby, and I can't imagine the Saturn 4 isn't following that pattern given the hype. Being able to see what really changed from the last generation with a perspective of *WHAT IS AVAILABLE TODAY* rather than watching a video from a year or two ago is great info for someone looking to make a purchase. The nature of all reviews is that they will eventually age to less relevance but that full review being more up to date is something you're not actually getting anywhere else that I know of. While the most important time for reviews of a product is around the initial release, I'd say the second most important is when that product's direct replacement is releasing. Which is wild... because this is the only video I can think of timed like this that I've seen.

[@nicksurename5392]

I've got a Saturn 3 and I love it personally.

[@ScarfLad]

Waiting on this man the review a Saturn 4/4 Ultra before I pull the trigger later this year. Get this man a review model!

[@haresteven06]

On the subject of flex plates, Ive tried with 2 different printers to get the wham bam system to work. Worked great for like a month but then ran into constant failures. I thought maybe the build plate was warped but after I took off the magnet pad, I haven't run into a failure (due to not sticking) since. I'm thinking the magnet pad maybe pulled up on one side causing an uneven surface. But I don't know for sure.

[@caketality]

ELEGOO GIVE THIS MAN A NEW SATURN, A REVIEW ON THIS CHANNEL IS LITERALLY WHAT IS DECIDING IF I BUY AN ULTRA OR NOT. I don’t care if other KZbinrs think it’s amazing, I don’t trust any of them as much as I trust this channel.

[@jasonleach136]

I like your approach to the unscripted, conversational videos - your scripted ones are obviously great, but unlike many creators I have no difficulty watching your content the whole way through

[@liesureleeminis8268]

Elegoo give this man a Saturn 4 ultra so he can print a life size kangaroo with it.

[@user-gp6fj8bh5c]

Elegoo, let him have the printer to try! He's super excited about your new features! Probably jam his fingers in the lid too, so a double win.

[@sidewinder3694]

The grudge by Tool 🤘🤘

[@TheLoopyTiger]

I love my Saturn 3 and the simplicity of it. It works great and has less superfluous "features" that I don't need but can break and stop the whole printer from working. It's just a solid workhorse of a printer.

[@nexo9602]

Elegoo he needs his own printer like a Once in a Six Side Special !

[@flowinsounds]

that's a sweet idea.

[@titomfrancis]

Needs the new Saturn on this channel cause he give some of the most honest feedback I have seen.

[@MatchaBarnes]

One of the big upgrades i did with resin printing was putting a flexibale cutting mat in a $1 cooking tray for removing prints from the build plate. When i'm done i just put the whole thing outside then roll up the matt to get rid of resin.

[@Captn_Grumpy]

Few things. I love your random content, its great fun. For the the vent adaptor, a backplane would be a good idea (and easy) as it would spread the load significantly. Although unlikely to be an issue with the low load it would be a very cheap and easy appraoch to limit the likelihood of fracturing the acrylic over time. More rabbit content. To anyone that hasnt had a rabbit as a pet, you will think people are mad when they say they are smart, affectionate and fun pets. When we got one my mind was blown.

[@cameronfrost3225]

Yep, thanks for this one. Really appreciate the honest and thorough walkthrough you give a printer, all while showing sweet projects and building the audience's confidence to troubleshoot issues. Elegoo, get this guy back on your influencer train on the double!

[@RoofusKit]

The anticipation waiting to see if you destroy the screen because you're opening the flex plate AFTER you leveled the bed is killing me here at @14:36

[@UriskOfTheFae]

I adore your channel. It's helped me so much with pre-supports and more, and Mini Rater is an awesome resource! I enjoy both your heavily produced and off-the-cuff content, and I'm always excited when you've got a review, whether it's something new or old.

[@DiavloPL]

I have my own way and in 90% it works, I do the automatic light supports, then I add heavy supports manually in the lowest places. This way the heavies makes sure print doesnt move and lights are just supporting islands.

[@BraedenTheKnight]

This printer was my second one and it's been serving me perfectly since I got it like 6 months ago love the build volume and have never had an issue with it.

[@FrazzledDadsMinis]

My Saturn 2 was a terrific first resin printer. It was easy to get a very smooth workflow figured out, even as a n00bie. Wifi connectivity would be great, and their firmware upgrade process is a mess. Aside from that, I love it. I can't imagine upgrading any time soon as I've better things to spend my money on. Great video!

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

I wasn't aware that this is such a popular opinion. My local hobby group keeps gushing about the Saturn 3, but I just don't see it being worth it, when the Saturn 2 is already such an awesome machine.

[@brandonherrington7080]

Elegoo, id love to see the new saturn here and my house. :P

[@Patnode88]

Dude I hope your channel continues to grow. I have really enjoyed your content.

[@jg6935]

I greatly enjoy the content you make. Keep it up!

[@Luke_totally_luke]

I picked up a saturn 3 about a month ago, ive been trying to print the raft test ever since. Each print i do, i have about 3 rafts on the build plate and the rest in the vat. In fact, the only time I've ever had ALL 9 on the plate was when I accidentally left everything loose after troubleshooting. The only thing i can think of is that the desk my printer is on might not be 100% level?

[@PewpewFiah]

My Saturn 3 (Ultra), had weird issues with delaminations, despite what the reddit/facebook nerds were telling me, I ended up increasing my burn-in time and count, and my transition layers, and I stopped having delaminations altogether. So no idea if that'll help fix it for you, but it absolutely did for me. All the facebook/reddit nerds yelled at me cause it would cause issues for large models, but if it works I ain't gonna complain. Guess I'll find out once I print a Titan

[@tempusavatar]

Thanks for the video. The biggest conundrum I have right now is that the Saturn 4's preorder price is about the same as the Saturn 3, but there's no media coverage yet for the 4.

[@leonandrews2668]

Elegoo, get this man more printers! Hands down (= with Fauxhammer and Vog) best channel out there reviewing 3D printers

[@TheUndeadslayer221]

I have a Saturn 2 8k. It's nice for some of the larger models that I've had to print and the details are nice. Also, side note, mine came with Chitubox software.

[@benderxx1338]

I prefer a mix of scripted and doing it live stuff. It makes both feel special in their own ways rather than just only having one of the other. Keeps it fresh or something. Either way I enjoy your work

[@madmanwithaplan1826]

Btw i love how when your attaching magnets you immediately forget which side goes where as soon as its in your hand and have ti double and triple check. Just like me fr fr

[@OnceinaSixSide]

Lmao yeah I'm never sure. Gotta keep rechecking!

[@kelseyhurst9408]

Woooo giveaway! Thank you once in a six side. Finally made a FB account because of this.

[@Spacefriend594]

When it comes to scripted verse off the cuff, I feel like it’s more about the person behind it more then anything else and luck when it comes to youtube. Your doing great!

[@normangreenbomb]

Elegoo - as someone who is basing their decision on the first resin printer to purchase solely on KZbin reviews I need to you to send OIASS all of the printers forever. Also my decision will likely effect over 95% of all resin purchases made in my household so it's a big deal /s

[@umbraelegios4130]

22:38 "We'll not try another frontal assault, that rabbit's murder."

[@Bobyoudontneeemyname]

Looks identical to saturn 2 on outside. I like the ball joint for the build plate as well, my one issue is if not careful when tightening the bolts can cause the plate to rotate a bit in vat.

[@grahamfowler7017]

Was dreading housework, now not so much. Appreciate your work!!

[@DannyBob526]

Do you have a video explaining the supporting of models? Or have a good recommendation for a video to watch to learn the details of supporting? I have always just done auto support with lychee and it usually works out fine. But I am always looking to improve.

[@gre3705]

@ElgooOfficial the man needs a Saturn 4 Ultra to review! Give the people what they want!

[@DatFluffyMonkey]

Awesome stuff man, liked the objective take on the pricing and specs

[@TheLoopyTiger]

Rather than the Wam Bam mat, I like the silicone pet food mats from Kmart because they've got more of a lip around the edge in case of spills and are really cheap

[@jachogrzyb11]

Put the mat in the tray. Versatile and easy to clean!

[@katt7512]

Thanks for the vid... some silliness to trigger the algorithm .. Where do we get the STL's for the bunnies?

[@dylangajewski]

Great video

[@Gravity_Fish]

@Elegoo!!! sponsor this man before we all cry!! :(

[@im_2c]

I'm a little late to the party but what if you cut the slapmat to fit inside the plant tray? Then when you have to cure it outside you can just flex it and off pops the resin.

[@ratz9387]

youre so real for this

[@legozackproduct111]

Been still using my original elgoo mars. Been tempted to finally upgrade to either a slightly bigger printer or one with better interface.

[@farplaine]

Elegoo get this man more printers! We need his wargames printing perspective!

[@barulicksama3838]

ELEGOO WTF? We like this guy, send him printers!

[@TheMugwump1]

I find an Aussie owning a bunny funny. Weren't you guys infested with rabbits in the 80s? I remember having a substitute teacher from AU and she mentioned that people basically didn't bother to slow down for them in the road because they were an invasive species with no natural predators.

[@ep1kone]

@elegoo get this guy the new one!

[@Politov]

Happy to see a bun-termission! 😂

[@billcedarheath387]

Going over 8k resolution is overkill for miniatures. The fact is that you have companies (Titan Forge) doing digital sculpting and resin printing the production masters for SioCast with the Anycubic Mono X 6k. With that fact known, you don’t even have to go with anything over 6k resolution.

[@farplaine]

Elegoo sent my Mars 4 Ultra with an EU plug. In fairness to them I do live in the EU so it’s somewhat understandable, but Ireland uses the UK 3 pin plug, not the EU one. I had a ton of the cables hanging around so it wasn’t a big deal but they don’t always get the plug right apparently

[@brucoder]

#WhamBam is the standard on my mechanical parts printers (Creality LD002H, believe it or not when speaking about the previous gen printers 😄)

[@wombora]

Chances to win are super high as there are only people with a Facebook account included :D

[@InnuendoOutTheOther]

Hey Jim, we live in the same neck of the woods and I'm running a pair of mars 3s. Have you noticed any issues with the elegoo v2 resin and the Aussie winter? It's the only variable and im seeing failures for the first time ever using this resin VS the v1

[@420alphaomega]

Great video as always mate, elegoo send this man the new hotness! Question what do u usually do with your failed prints? As an Ork player i hope youve considered turning them into looted ork proxies!

[@TheJibtronic]

I call dibs on winning! Haha

[@Dubious.Bovine]

Kmart sell some super cheap silicone pet food mats with raised edges. They are great alternatives to the slap mats if you are a cheapo like me!

[@azure3456]

I bought a Photon Mono 2 two weeks ago, and I am in love with it. I know it's an older machine, but my Tyranids look incredible 🤷‍♂️

[@azure3456]

Of course this is in response to the point that buying older generation printers is not only okay, it's a great idea

[@icklemoo]

I have a photon mono x2 I think it's called, it's really good as well .... maybe later in summer I will add one of the big new machines

[@madmanwithaplan1826]

Man i wish i finished this video 2 days ago and lived in Australia

[@BarokaiRein]

Got Saturn 3 last summer. Will use it until it just breaks because I'm pretty sure abs-like resin can't even print clearer details than what I'm already getting.

[@bacawaka2813]

Yeah, flex plates on a Saturn kinda sucks. The magnet will peal off eventually and I eventually went back to printing on the bed. I hate printing on the bed because using a scraper has a chance of throwing off the bed level.

[@MAJmufin]

ah... so that is why my plate went out of level. I was wondering.

[@Cerderius]

When I watch videos like this I always feel like I made a mistake going with the Mars 3 Pro intsead of the Saturn 2/3

[@Azothe]

Elegoo send this man the new Saturn I want to buy it but need to see reviews first!

[@kaz603]

I know this may not be the place but I have tried the raft of adhesion and they stay on but when I try to print the RERF test 2 or 3 will fall off. I have leveled the bed at least 20 times and I have tightened my fep but I still keep getting the same result

[@OnceinaSixSide]

Then your bed is level but your burn in time is insufficient. Increase by 10 to 15 seconds, and if they're still not sticking very well, try scuffing up your build plate with 40 grit sandpaper.

[@mantis114]

Baking powder/soda also works as a superglue accelerant

[@gryffindoescardboard]

I started exclusively with ELEGOO, after the awful customer service never again. I got a “basically new” Saturn 1 and I’ve had to test and replace, both screens the motherboard and the motors and it still, does not work. And the customer service team keeps saying, just gets everything again while refusing refunds.

[@goldievue]

Dear Elegoo, please send this man the Saturn 4 to review. I am new to 3D resin printing and am in the researching stage and I have the Saturn 4 in my sight, but have not made a purchase decision because I cannot find a good review video on it.

[@Tutorialgarage]

Elegoo, send this guy the newest printer to review them. Thank you from an Austrian 🇦🇹 guy 😉

[@Palooka37]

Thanks for all the fine babble sir

[@3dpathfinder]

Id like to see the Saturn 4 Ultra on my channel...lol and yours @Elegoo

[@davethorton907]

Elegoo, I've been waiting for Dice's review of the Saturn 4 Ultra before pushing the button and buying one. Now I know why there hasn't been a review yet. I'm dismayed why you haven't sent him one to review, given the range of people who you did send one to - people with very little to no prior history of reviewing printers. (Yes I'm in the miniature/40K printing space). Because of their lack of experience and by extension understanding of printers I simply wouldn't but anything based on their opinions. Dice on the other hand... He has significant experience and knowledge in the miniature printing area. His large number of videos have a high degree of credibility as a result. I would be willing to buy a printer based on his opinions.

[@Cthulhusuperstar]

Clutch it like a cornerstone, otherwise it all comes down

[@wolf-xf6hf]

Bro get this man a saturn he’s the only one I watch

[@flowinsounds]

why are none of the models hollowed? I usually skin mine down to 1.8mm thick max. It means I use less resin & the models weigh way less - so they both don't break so easily if you drop them, and are harder to pick as prints once in play.

[@flowinsounds]

i've had some models i hollowed and printed over a couple of years ago now, and there's been no issues at all with them (ABS-like, iso clean, water cure, simple green ultrasonic flush), so the fear of 'uncured' resin inside is just fear.

[@flowinsounds]

also aw. please add nz to the giveaway next time, we are real close!

[@saw2503]

Well my ego is thoroughly stroked.

[@jines1284]

Can I pay for the shipping to the US?

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

I myself don't see why I should get this one any time soon. The Saturn 2 really is a great machine and already covers all I need to do. 8k and 12k resolution doesn't sound all that relevant for me.

[@agzarah]

id rather it if Elegoo incidently sent me the new printer :)

[@XenobraneStudios]

Elegoo, get your 🚢 together and send this man a Saturn 4. WTH 🤦‍♂️

[@BeepBoop2221]

Is that a tool reference I see?

[@DAS_Tanishq]

Simply watching from India and feeling sad as i can't afford a 3d printer and giveaways are rarely for indian folks

[@teabagNBG]

i like this printer alot but the fact the resin gets over the build plate is totally annoying... i really hope the next printer they release they will add the heated vat from the mono m7....

[@MrFe0]

GG

[@liesureleeminis8268]

Also Saturn 4 ultra is comparable to price of the older printers 🤷

[@Clembassador]

Elegoo needs to send you more printers! (If this comment works and you get a 4 send me the 2) 😂

[@LSOP-]

Wambam don't ship to Canada. That gets them a 👎