FIRST LOOK: Scout Terra Truck & Traveler SUV | Has Scout Built a Better Rivian?

[@edmundscars]

Is a gas range extender an important feature for a vehicle like this? Let us know what you think in the comments.

[@horuslupercal3872]

We will have to see my guess is where the gas Extender will play the biggest part is in towing range

[@RealElectech]

Range extender will likely mean a smaller battery and engine running more often to even get to 350 miles, none the less the 500. Personally I'd rather have the low maintenance and advantages of a full EV. I'm not an overlander.

[@fltndb]

Absolutely!

[@patmendoza9945]

I wouldn’t get the range extender….350 miles of range is plenty. Save the money, and the weight, and enjoy.

[@fltndb]

@patmendoza9945 I've never owned and ev, but I disagree. 350 is not that far, especially if towing or not ideal conditions.

[@IssaqAl-Ahmed]

These things look fantastic. These basically seem to address almost every issue I have with the Rivians. Physical controls, a proper gauge cluster, a more reasonable bed length on the truck, solid axles, 350KW charging, bidirectional power, and even a range extender! They wont be cheap, but if you were already looking to spend Rivian money these look SUPER compelling. Every other off-road brand needs to take notice.

[@xtaylorxg]

What’s funny is that Rivian seems to take a lot of design cues from the original Scout (the R3 is the most stunning example) and a lot of people say these look a lot like rivians

[@palco22]

".... these look a lot like Rivians" unlike every friggin car and SUV on the roads today !

[@budman1953]

I had two of the original Scout II's back in the 70's. I love it that the new versions kept the same lines and shape as the original.

[@mfcjr1]

I wish I still had my 74 Scout II. I would take it over this new thing any day.

[@quentinnicholson8202]

Wish they’d give us a gas option like an inline 6.

[@scottleggejr]

Ineos style. I like it!

[@country_intuition]

Agree. I would actually consider this if it came with a gas version. I like the look better than the Ford Bronco or the Jeep Gladiator. EV's are not really an option here in Pennsylvania Appalachia. Need to cross a few mountains to go anywhere and the cold weather will really cut down the advertised range. Also EVs aren't great off-roaders due to their heavy weight...just glamorized grocery-getters. A gas version would cut the price by $20K too. It's a shame. Would've really liked to see an off-road capable Scout reboot.

[@Luka_3D]

​@@country_intuitionWell they do give you a range extender which lets you basically run it like a gas car if you really want to. Drop in a few extra jerry cans in the back and you got even more range. On top of that, since it's an ev you can regen brake down the mountain and get some of the energy back. Other than that, EVs are great offroad. Rivian was especially praised for it's rock climbing ability since you've got a motor on every individual wheel

[@davidmeyer6389]

Sounds great and they look awesome. I think the 500 mile range (with extender) is a game changer as long as as you can still tow with it with the additional motor.

[@Tarkus826]

The gas engine is just a generator for the batteries.

[@macmanmpls]

I really want a Traveler with the range extender. It's beautiful.

[@calvinwon5113]

As someone who's owned a couple of pickups now, I can definitely say having a bed AND a lockable trunk space is pretty nice. Because normally, you either have an open bed that functions like a real bed for oversized things, or you convert your bed into a giant lockable trunk (either a camper shell or tonneau) and lose the ability to move fridges and couches with it. I bolted a lockable tool box into the bed of my old truck to have a bit of both, but I still had to sacrifice bed space for it. This new Terra is looking pretty attractive to me.

[@gilly3531]

According to the website, the rear window of the Terra rolls down like a 4Runner or Tundra

[@PossumKommander]

Finally, an EV I'd actually be willing to buy. I still want to see how it handles cold weather. Will the batteries have a temperature regulator?

[@ericzgela4683]

Give people the option to choose between gas or ev. I know which would win.

[@netsiteing]

oh how we'd love to have SCOUT in AUSTRALIA

[@paulchilders9969]

Well it's made by VW, so maybe there's hope.

[@Nicofue2902]

I hope the Terra comes to Germany. I love the design and the interior with the full-length bench seat. So cozy! The range extender is also a cool idea, i hope it comes also in the terra, or that nice seat bench in the Traveler.

[@LazyDisciplined]

Best looking EV’s so far.

[@loganghiringhelli504]

Taking an energy source and converting it to another energy source is very inefficient. It should either be a standard plug in hybrid or just EV. The RAV4 Prime has a “charge” mode where you can simultaneously watch your 30mpg 4 cylinder gas engine charge the battery as your mpg average plummets to the low 20’s. I’d use this setting while driving from Truckee (starting at Boreal Ski resort) to Roseville in California because it’s almost all downhill. It’s an 83 mile drive total and the charge mode (with no load on the engine and a lot of regenerative breaking aka ideal circumstances) would add like 15 miles of range (roughly 1/3 of the 100% charged prime battery) to the charge, and it would not be a true 15 miles of range. Might be different with a larger capacity battery but idk.

[@loganghiringhelli504]

Long story short the charge mode turned a gallon of gas in an engine that gets 20-35mpg into 15 miles of electric charge.

[@mack73]

You can buy it without the range extender. But if you actually want to take this offroad like the market its aimed at - the range extender is a fantastic solution to.... well I'm out in the woods, got lost for an hour and now I can't get home. Wish I could just put 5 gallons in it....This pushes the market to solve for the overlander/off roader who's needs haven't been met yet. And the Terra addresses the biggest issue with a EV truck and a lack of range when towing. If I can just keep throwing gas at it I can do the occasional long tow and ditch an ICE truck

[@codymorse2108]

I lost interest as soon as you said electric. I’d rather have one of the old scouts that got about 13-16 mpg respectively

[@gazjaz2010]

Nah. well, maybe a 4 cylinder Scout got that mileage, and so underpowered. my 345 V8 Scout II got 10-12mpg at BEST.

[@codymorse2108]

@ that sounds about right and it depends on a lot of things, have you upgraded your fuel system at all and is it auto or manual? Sounds like a dope ass ride btw I’d love to drive one.

[@gazjaz2010]

@@codymorse2108 my 1978 had the stock auto (dodge 727) and a very tall rear end 3.07 or something close, was a dog off the line honestly lol. didn't go fuel injection just used a new Holley 2 barrel. great truck, fun to drive, always thirsty tho horrible mileage and the exhaust manifold design was awful, constantly developing leaks. these new EV versions are gonna scream compared to the old IH versions, so much torque right off the line

[@drgermany001]

Would love the frunk with a range extender please 🙏🏾

[@HarleyPan]

Production starting in 2027? Isn't that too early to advertise? I agree with the conclusion. Who knows what's gonna happen even in 2025? This looks more like a pump for its investors.

[@lightwarp_]

This is just a great combo of retro and future❤

[@lukeshort680]

Bah Humbug...it's all electric. No matter how hard you try and take care of it, that battery will decrease in range and may be no good in 7 to 10 years. Definately not a vehicle that can be passed down. It's more like a cell phone, you HAVE to trade up to the next one. No choice in the matter..

[@thecasehd]

Any word on a 2 door version. Not really interested in a 4 door.

[@ChadAlmquist]

You'll have kids by the time they actually get released, then you'll NEED the 4-door.

[@thecasehd]

@@ChadAlmquist , hope I don't have any more kids at 61, lol.

[@ChadAlmquist]

@@thecasehd 😅 True enough, but maybe the grandkids want to rise in the Scout

[@felixvelo]

With the major problems VW is facing we will see if they don't cut the brand before the factory is even finished.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

That would actually be ideal, IMHO

[@ctclardy]

Exciting and attractive vehicle in the off-roading segment. My main concern is that Volkswagen owns it and Volkswagen is highly suspect in reliability and dependability. I'll wait with bated breath for the reality.

[@slapfan1]

Loving it, looks better than the Rivian at a cheaper price, I’m sold. Unfortunately we’ll have to wait until 2027 😢

[@jorgeluistonuellassr.4454]

It looks amazing. I like it. Please take my money because I need that vehicle.

[@АкжолМуратов-м4ф]

shut up and take my money!!!!😻😻😻😻😻

[@_Chev_Chelios]

The engineers don’t know where the range extending engine and gas tank are going to go? They are either terrible liars or the most incompetent product planners in the history of product planning.

[@ALMX5DP]

The engineers definitely do, but the PR spokesperson he talked to did not.

[@frankr111th]

If you watch the reveal the range extender is over the back axle pretty much where the spare tire would go. The gas tank is up at the front. If you look in the front trunk, you'll see that there's about a 2-ft wide area. The gas filler is on the passenger side front fender. That's where the gas goes.

[@VariantK-82]

How many cars have you designed from the ground up?

[@_Chev_Chelios]

@@frankr111th gas tank in the front?! I’m going to go on limb and say nope on rope.

[@_Chev_Chelios]

@@VariantK-82 all of them. Minus one. I didn’t do the Trabant.

[@cthegoal05]

They need to just go ahead and make a hybrid version too. “Range extender” is nice. But be different and appeal to EVERYONE. NOT just people who are really into to electric! Hopefully range extender has a pretty good size fuel tank!! Love these though!

[@techups3082]

is it really 91" wide as being reported on some forums?

[@mack73]

With mirrors, Scout clarified its sub 80" wide without mirrors (hence no need for 3 clearance lights when you go past 80")

[@extspence]

Thanks to Scout, my Bronco Raptor feels skinny now.

[@michaeljennings6647]

I wonder about the price?

[@sinistersilverado965]

it needs a 8 liter turbocharged V-8

[@urbanstrencan]

Awesome job, would love to see pickup here in Europe ❤❤

[@jacobflaschenriem6497]

If had a gas or diesel engine it be pretty cool. Still looks way to expensive and would get easily destroyed off road

[@jimfleeman140]

I've had 3 scouts in the past. Can't beat one. But I would like a gas motor.

[@Tarkus826]

Every review is overlooking the large slide down rear window on the Terra.

[@HeyMavDak]

Why isn't anybody talking about the fact these trucks are a whopping 91.6" wide?! This is full-size, it's bigger than a Tahoe.

[@e-redj]

Afaik, the size sheet is quite misleading. The width is meant with rear view mirrors reducing the comparable width to the lower 70’s. Also the length of the traveller is the total length, including that humongous spare tyre. 🤷‍♂️

[@HeyMavDak]

@@e-redjHow do you know?

[@HeyMavDak]

⁠They're 79.9" wide without mirrors.

[@e-redj]

@@HeyMavDak Yes, I had the wrong number in memory, but I had it from Batteries included (I think they are a serious source) and they claimed they had the values from Scout.

[@TexasLocalProduce]

Yes! Need this by 2025!!!! I am putting down my deposit but I don't think I can wait until 2027.

[@SirJamesTND]

Its 3 years out. Why release this now ?

[@371kenny]

Where is the gas generator gonna go and the tank? Something has to give.

[@scottleggejr]

Another idea could be to directly couple the generators engine to the axles mechanically for more efficiency.

[@bharris0281]

I want one now😂

[@dontdoxmebro]

It’s like these car companies want to fail. All this needs is a i4 and vinyl seats, floor, and cheap price and it would sell

[@cerealkiller7734]

The point of a Scout was never how fast it could get to 60. They just don't get it.

[@jeffcady284]

Yes, the new Scout looks like a new Bronco. But the new Bronco looks like an old Scout.

[@makatron]

VW has a 2.0L TDI that would be amazing for powering this as a range extender.

[@patmendoza9945]

I want!!! 😭

[@thegreeneyej]

I want one…

[@senduran35]

I rather like ICU powertrain

[@andrewcosta5001]

Put the fuel tank in the rear so we can have a modern day Pinto

[@Warbeaver]

4 years is way to far away to get excited. Jeep REcon will be out by then.

[@Envy13376]

Good move on VW for using a nostalgic brand for EV adoption in the US. Best hope they got the software package figured out this time around.

[@sigol_ajae]

It should be released asap. EREV looks so good.

[@stuchly1]

Do people really care about 0-60 on off road vehicles that are borderline unreasonably quick off the line already? What matters is what they can do in the dirt and mud imho.

[@larrymelroy5687]

Electric lol ,pass what a letdown

[@scottleggejr]

They'd be shitty, thin, unibody junk even if they weren't. Add to another "they don't make them like they used to" bucket. 😂 I had a 72 scout and the bodies aren't galvanized so it rusted but it has a full frame and solid axles. Nothing mechanical ever broke on it in my tenure of owning it. Solid rigs. Very dependable and reliable. Not like the software world we live in today. Too much tech and extra bloat.

[@aidanrivera2234]

theres an option for both.

[@brycetomas3933]

They are going flop because there not gas. Make hybrid at least trump president gas is going be cheap again put small block in it. Heck I’d buy it and put. A Ls in it just so I can feel like I’m driving classic truck with modern tech

[@timbraun3716]

The initial impressions are very positive. The defining attribute will be its driving function and experience. Something most current EV's lack. If they can get that right, it will be a big winner!

[@CamoShirt]

crazy people think a 10 year life span is acceptable for a vehicle. if you bought an ice vehicle and knew you'd have to replace the engine in 10 or 11 years you'd say that's ridiculous and walk away.

[@alittleofthisnthat5665]

🤔...so the Scout vehicles are full size and the R2 shouldn't be anywhere in the discussion/please know what you're reviewing

[@jimmccomb6849]

Why can’t they make this with ice?

[@cheesefries7436]

I was so annoyed by their website design that I lost interest and left.

[@aidanrivera2234]

Its so simple what are you talking about

[@ChadAlmquist]

I thought the website was slick and easy to navigate.

[@snoboyz3]

Going to be sold through VW dealerships? Wonder how all those batteries would hold up for deep water crossings. Don't see the hard core 4x4 crowd embracing EVs.

[@jeffkwasny62]

This would be way better if it had an actual gas a diesel engine not that electric garbage☹️

[@AngryManSki]

If it wasn’t electric, it wouldn’t exist.

[@makatron]

If they make it diesel electric, like trains, it'll be awesome.

[@fltndb]

Love it!

[@flyonbyya]

As cool as they and other sport utilities look and can do off-road… Unlike the off-roaders with their comically large balloon tires and ride height unable to utilize their until they hit the trails. I’d rather buy a used plaid for the same price and exercise its full capabilities from the second I leave my driveway.

[@mw6563]

I have never liked the look of the Rivians. To much “styling”. Scout has the Sasquatch and Rubicons directly in its sights. I really like the Bronco but love EV’s. Will wait for Scout.

[@chltmdwp]

meh

[@DJL78]

2030 minimum. There is no way it will be to market sooner.

[@davidmyers3745]

This puts a stain on the scout name should have made it with a V6 twin turbo or a 4 cylinder turbo or even a diesel nobody wants this You're going to be badly disappointed releasing this it's just another EV piece of crap

[@trewebster5884]

Premature release….3yrs🤔

[@kemgallione8170]

The Scout Traveler looks 10X better than the Lexus, I mean Rivian. The Scout actually looks like a real off-road capable SUV where as the Rivian R1S looks like it belongs to a 90 year old grandma. No offense to Grandmas. Grandmas are great. I have one.

[@ChadAlmquist]

Most people have 2🤣

[@_Chev_Chelios]

Don’t you think you should have mentioned that it is a Volkswagen product and that Volkswagen and Rivian have a technology partnership? It has different dimensions than Rivian because it is not a Rivian.

[@willjackson5941]

He did.

[@_Chev_Chelios]

@@willjackson5941 he mentioned that Volkswagen and Rivian was working on software together. That’s far explaining that it’s a Volkswagen chassis and product.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

Completely agree... and a little more history of the International brand, and the fact that VW bought the rights to an American brand embedded in American History! Complete switcheroo! It's not like Dodge which still seems American despite being passed around various European countries and their respective large car companies (Italian Fiat, and the French company formerly known as Peugeot). A brand alive and pumping continuously is quite different than a brand never resurrected till now, and embedded in our past.

[@fitter760]

Lost me real quick. ..

[@himalayanknight8]

Should have just made a good offroader with good 4wd. Why are they making the suv go 100 in 3 seconds. Just make a simple good offroader than can go anywhere.

[@williamg8853]

That's just a byproduct of a immediately available full torque on an electric motor. It sounds like they have made it a great offroader, with locking axles, 12" ground clearance and detachable front sway bar.

[@himalayanknight8]

@ well than the byproduct of ev is useless if you cant use it correctly. What is the use of power when we cant control it or use it in proper way where it is needed.

[@williamg8853]

@@himalayanknight8 You clearly don't understand EVs. You can use the power more readily than any ICE motor...it's like having a big block motor in your SUV with loads of torque but no lumpiness or unevenness in the throttle. There is no torque curve like you get on ICE engine -- it's just immediate, linear power that, parenthetically, is exactly what you want off road. The fact that it can go 0-60 in 3 seconds doesn't mean you can't modulate it to go 0-60 in 10 seconds. Try driving an EV, you might like it. I'm a gear head that used to have American big blocks, then British and German sports cars. I'm a convert to EVs...they're awesome.

[@yelwing]

It’s not an International. It’s electric. I don’t want it. The novelty of electric cars is in free fall.

[@MLeeK365]

What a horrible time to bring out a new vehicle the auto industry sales are 💩

[@laloajuria4678]

they havent built shit....well see if they stay solvent to deliver anything first.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

An American brand embedded in history that got sold to VW... No, thank you. Enuff said.

[@aidanrivera2234]

maybe some american company or the government shouldve cared and backed them then. Its all about money and manufacturing. Youre acting like some germans are gonna be hand crafting it

[@copperkeyracing6167]

@aidanrivera2234 obviously they are hand ctafting the vehicles... aka designing them from the ground up, with no input from the original designers, which died long long ago. This brand is from 1961 throigh 1980. I remember them fondly from long ago. How would you like if Mercedes was resurrected after being dead for 34 years and was completely being designed in the USA... then, the Americans were copying the Mercedes designed cars, recreating the look, and making them again as if it were the same? It's not the same, since it's not the same people.

[@aidanrivera2234]

@copperkeyracing6167 I have a feeling you didn't watch their release event

[@copperkeyracing6167]

@aidanrivera2234 You want me to watch some salesmen convince me out of what is historically true? I'm sure this is going to be the new Scouts greatest stumbling block.

[@bradleyalbright1340]

BARF!!!!!

[@DM-io8dp]

this car will be sold out

[@Scypher0th]

sucks these arnt full gas....wont sell very well in anywhere but the west coast. This is the problem with the modern automotive market/world at the moment...there pandering to a neich less than 5% market that solely lives on the west coast....anywhere else full electric vehicles specially in my area middle of canada sasatchewan electric cars cant go anywhere but inside there MAJOR cities...no one wants them outside the west coast. Sucks too cuz i was actually interested ion one of these until i found out there EV's.....now i have zero interest. these will go the path of the Cyber truck and Rivian truck....where you see maybe one or two of them in big metro cities buyt outside of them there non existant

[@davidmyers3745]

Real men and real women drive internal combustion

[@GuileneAuman]

Fantastic video! It’s exciting to see all these exotic cars up close. But I’d recommend that anyone thinking about getting one of these luxury cars should consult a financial advisor first, it’s a massive investment. I’ve been working with a great advisor, Stephanie Janis Stiefel, for years. She has a stellar track record, both in helping me grow my investments and with the right financial planning when I considered getting a luxury car. If anyone’s considering a high-value purchase, she’s someone you should check out. You can find her online pretty easily

[@TreviMounir]

Totally agree with you. These cars are beautiful, but making a huge investment without a proper financial plan can be risky. I also work with Stephanie Janis Stiefel, and she really helped me stay grounded when I was eyeing a McLaren. She’s practical, knows the market, and just gets the big picture.

[@TiniZineb-d3y]

Good point! I know people jump in headfirst with luxury buys, especially with cars like these. I’ve also been working with Stephanie Janis Stiefel for a couple of years, and she’s helped me make smarter choices, especially with bigger purchases like my Aston Martin. Stephanie’s advice kept me from overextending myself, which is priceless when you’re eyeing something that’s more than just a car, it’s a financial commitment.

[@ArataHaru-n1t]

Thanks for the heads-up. I was actually thinking about getting an exotic car myself, maybe a Ferrari or a Bentley, but I was unsure if it was the right move right now. Could really use an advisor who knows how to guide this sort of decision, and it sounds like Stephanie Janis Stiefel. might be exactly who I need. How do I get in touch with her?

[@GuileneAuman]

​@@ArataHaru-n1tWell her name is 'STEPHANIE JANIS STIEFEL'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

[@DanKelleher-d2y]

I can back up what everyone’s saying about Stephanie Janis Stiefel. She’s been amazing for me. I looked at buying a Porsche last year, and she helped me map out a plan that didn’t hurt my finances. These cars are beautiful but not worth the stress if they break your bank! Best decision ever to work with her.

[@davidmyers3745]

I'm sorry to tell you nobody's going to buy this this puts a stain on the proud name of scout should have put a V6 twin turbo a turbo 4 cylinder or even a turbo diesel nobody wants this EV piece of crap

[@peekasa1355]

Congrats on building yet ANOTHER AVERAGE EV! Nostalgia won’t save these vehicles from mediocrity! WAIT and build them with an SSB and EVERYONE will want one! 350 mile range, with zero data on charge time, number of charge capability, or fire safety…excuse me while I YAWN!!!

[@drivesanoldcar]

vw laying off thousand workers in germany. where will this be made.

[@calebwilliams89]

Will be designed in Michigan, and manufactured in South Carolina. Scout is a US company. They are just owned by the VW Motorgroup.

[@scottleggejr]

​@@calebwilliams89so executive payout package and profit is shipped back to the EU 💡

[@aidanrivera2234]

in amercia?

[@mattspeer01]

Are these just rebadged Rivians? That’s exactly what they both look like.

[@_Chev_Chelios]

Amazingly, Edmunds neglected to mention that this is a Volkswagen product and that Volkswagen has a technology partnership with Rivian. They are not built on Rivian platforms.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@_Chev_Chelios4:21

[@_Chev_Chelios]

@@ALMX5DP yep! He mentions that Volkswagen and Rivian are working on software together. No mention of what car company is designing and building the chassis.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@_Chev_Chelios Scout Motors Inc is the car company, and I’d think by mentioning VW and Rivian working on software together suggests their connection to the new automotive brand and the technological partnership you seemed to want to point out. I always find it interesting how people see ownership as so black and white, like how people call Volvo Chinese. We really don’t know much at this point what level of physical involvement there will be for these products.

[@williamg8853]

No. Completely different. As these vehicles share a lot of design cues from the original Scout, it should be lost on no one that Rivian copied the original scout and any similarities result from Rivian's borrowing of design elements.

[@winslowbrewer821]

No thanks

[@montanavtxriders]

Another stupid electric vehicle? Talk about disappointing!!

[@user-anc123]

This is a dumpster fire. No thanks

[@dima8608]

These look like rebadged Rivians. Unclear why we need one more hyper inefficient pseudo off-roading EV.

[@williamg8853]

Who said they're "pseudo off-roading" EVs?

[@dima8608]

@, I am sure the land of “off-roading adventure” as imagined by Rivian an Scout marketing is studded with fast charging stations. Otherwise you get to the same problem as sport EVs - once you get to the track you have enough juice for a couple of laps and then you need to go search for a charger.

[@williamg8853]

@@dima8608 The Scout has a range extender...500 mile range is as good as anything else in the ICE. These scouts reportedly have a solid rear axle, a disengaging front sway bar...room for 35" tires. Couldn't ask for much more for a vehicle that is not a dedicated off roader.

[@upyours999999]

What a bunch of idiots reporters drinking the cool ai from scout. What's there to say that scout won't end up like fisker???!!!!

[@williamg8853]

They have the full backing of VW. They're pre-marketing to gauge demand.

[@Captian-c2t]

🙏🫶✨️... looks Great 👍... the time is now 👌