Fitness Mogul Chalene Johnson Reveals Her True Thoughts on the Fitness Industry | Mind Pump 2052

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00:00 “If there is a problem to solve, I will solve it and make some money.”
04:06 Capitalizing on her opportunities and choosing fitness.
15:27 Her rock bottom and why she left the fitness space.
28:12 You get happy, and you lose the weight.
37:18 Declutter your life, and things will fall into place.
42:06 Having the “Fonzie” attitude.
45:48 Fitness is a gateway drug.
47:34 Choosing family first.
53:20 Not working hard for the money.
55:07 The biggest roadblocks she sees with young entrepreneurs.
57:17 Her favorite revenue stream and why.
58:07 Sales happen when you know and trust someone.
1:01:26 Stay authentic.
1:06:52 Biggest business mistakes.
1:11:52 The most valuable commodity.
1:16:04 Has social media been a net positive or negative for society?
1:19:21 Where does she find peace for herself?
1:21:52 Being present with your children.
1:24:37 “Do for them what they can do for themselves.” Creating and building resiliency in your kids.
1:34:17 Relationship advice for couples.
1:37:51 Working through crossroads in a marriage and the value of therapy.
1:44:26 The evolution of her relationship with money.
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[@faganfit572]

Who else started their fitness journey with Turbo Jam???!!!! Charlene really kick started my love for fitness. Much love to you.

[@chalenejohnson]

Omg. Thank you!!! 😍😍

[@tinafu242]

🙋‍♀️

[@Kingdomqueentalk]

I did and still love Turbo Jam🎉

[@valerieodonnell6764]

I borrowed turbo jam from a coworker and there was one specific workout I did so often I had it memorized. Loved it!

[@tiffanydancefit]

Yes!!! 🙋🏽‍♀️

[@crhops1]

I was one of the “Success stories” that was able to work out with you in your last videos. That was such a monumental moment for me. You shouldn’t have any guilt, your smile and encouraging words changed my life at a very critical moment. Being in the videos was great, but meeting you was the true blessing. Man, I had such a hard time keeping up in the workouts. It was intense. I was told I was too pale, my hair was a disaster, and so on. BUT, not from you! You called me out on FB for everyone to see and say I was crushing it! Yet again taking the time to make someone feel worth while. People love you because you are a light, and truly care for others! Thanks Chalene, seriously!!!

[@kniv3sap1]

I don’t usually comment on these but this was an amazing episode. Extremely engaging and you can feel this woman’s authenticity through the screen. Great job as usual, Mind Pump!

[@chalenejohnson]

Awww! Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!

[@mamalovesthebeach437]

I've followed Chalene for a long time. She truly is the real deal and funny as heck...always interesting.

[@beee___]

I will forever be grateful to Chalene, she is the person who first got me in to lifting with Chalean Extreme 🧡 that was almost 12 years ago!

[@irena-mariequinton3549]

I must have been under a rock because I’d never heard of Chalene, but she is a breath of fresh air. I loved her reflections on how our pursuits of health impact our kiddos. Great food for thought.

[@nikolettajankovics93]

Wow Guys, this was one of your best show so far. ❤️ It was so good to hear her talking about her experiences. I was a professional dancer for 15 years and everyone in my family thought and said to me that I can only be a dancer, because that is the only thing I am good at. I can not tell you how many times I heard - after I stopped dancing - from family and from friends that " You used to be sooo pretty or skinny." It hurts. Especially because I work out and I am stronger than I ever was and finally I eat real food. When I was a dancer I used to eat shit like chips and sweets and coke. I was sooo unhealthy and sooo unhappy. Since then I got my teacher degree, I work with special needs kids, I have a great husband and I am healthier and happier than I ever was...🥰 Sorry for the rant and thank you for the amazing show and for your great work!💪

[@jeanettesundholm3400]

Love hearing Chalene’s story. She is one of the first people that inspired me to workout on a consistent basis.

[@thejillsnowden]

I'm a Chalene #fangirl so when she suggested this episode I ran. You guys are amazing and I did heard several things from Chalene that I'd never heard before (didn't think it was possible). Thanks so much for this real and authentic message - will be sharing for SURE!

[@MindPumpShow]

Amazing!

[@cargirl1188]

Love Chalene! She got me into a regular fitness routine with turbo jam and I've followed her ever since.

[@ak-zw8jv]

I usually can't watch these long videos but I was glued. Charlene is so real and easy to listen to. Loved this episode!!

[@ilianarivera3609]

Same I was glued too!! 😊

[@karisaguetterman5794]

You all do such an incredible job calling out the lies in this culture. A powerful episode about family, financial accomplishments and fitness. Chalene is so engaging and authentic. It's evident all 4 of you have a truth you want to share. I appreciate having not only a woman’s perspective but a mothers perspective so much. this really meant a lot to me. "Learn to love your self first then lose weight. The side effects are how you look. The real effects are how you feel." I love the part about parenting. Teaching kids that they have all the resources and tools for their own success. “Don’t do for them, what they can do for themselves." Excellent episode.

[@pbmustard1830]

Yay another Mind Pump with a Female Guest star! Loving all these Mind Pumps with women in them, as a woman they really empower me! Mind Pump Strong!!!! 💪

[@chalenejohnson]

Awww! Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!

[@AmandaHissom-vx5cp]

I loved using Chalene’s videos many years ago. She helped me begin to enjoy fitness. I appreciate her transparency in recent years. I hope she knows she’s done so much good in many ways. Thank you, MindPump for the content you provide that reaches all audiences.

[@owerluckerkexo8916]

Every day I annoy my family with new and new things that I learn on this wonderful podcast. Thank you guys, you change my life.

[@ashleyplaceres]

Personally I love it when you guys incorporate interviews!! It’s so refreshing to get others perspective and she was just so genuine and real, literally future goals for me ✨

[@sarz1837]

I used the Chalean program around 2008 and not only did I lose my baby weight but I got into the best and most ripped shape of my life. It was also one of the reasons that I got interested in what at that time I perceived as heavy weights. I now have an IFBB bikini pro as a personal trainer, and certainly I now see that the Chalean program was geared more toward beginners, but it was very useful for me, and definitely put me on the right path

[@analretentivechef-1]

What a REAL interview, wow this is top 10 for me of your show. I hadn't heard of Chalene before, but her story is so important to hear. As a woman that went through orthorexia, I really feel like this message hasn't been spoken about enough. Great show guys!

[@sethmiller9589]

This was awesome! I’m a recovering addict and will always consider myself an addict. Right now my addiction is Fitness but I have to stay consistent and know I’m never fully recovered. But I also had issues with doubting myself and creating my own business and not being enough. I also have done therapy and at this moment am very happy with my choices and life. I couldn’t find a mentor when I was young so I turned to you guys and other KZbin’s! Keep spreading the good words! I wish everyone could hear this message! I also have ADD and have to be constantly distracted and prayed up!

[@rosecotten7649]

Following Chalene for years. She’s so smart and naturally funny. Sassy and smart. I’m here, on this page, for the first time, because of her. Now, I’m subscribed. You guys are great!

[@traceyart]

Love Chalene! Don’t feel bad about your consumer fitness days…many of us benefitted from your guidance. Still do Chalean Extreme and recommend it to my friends.

[@ceeceee8288]

This woman is truly inspiring. ❤

[@katrinaml89]

I loove listening to her talk. She is SO real and matter of fact. Great episode guys!

[@chalenejohnson]

Awww! Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!

[@kakhead23]

Fantastic episode, I love this woman, So thoughtful and real!

[@jessicarosario496]

This is crazy I lost my first 60 pounds with turbo jam and I loved it. It started my fitness journey and I still am a fitness fanatic but much less cardio and much more food. Great show guys, thank you.

[@josiepatla2164]

I found this from Chalene’s podcast. Great show! Followed Chalene for many many years and learned things about her that I never knew! I can relate to feeling triggered by the fitness industry in younger years. Now I feel blessed to have the ability to workout and feel strong. Time and maturity brings us to that conclusion. And that’s what I always loved about Chalene - she is true to herself! ❤

[@alisegeorge1782]

I know you were pleasantly excited to have Chalene on the show. I appreciate this authentic conversation. It was deep and soul bearing for everyone .

[@terrisanders3191]

Wow! This one’s for the books! The realness was so refreshing & inspiring. Thank you Chalene & MindPump for hitting it out of the ballpark on this one!! Kudos!! 🙌🏻

[@MindPumpShow]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@shelbeast2]

Lifer here! Chalene is the best 💞 I’m so happy she is getting the recognition she deserves. Also, bring back Turbo! 😆

[@buffNelly1989]

Oh my goodness I have to say this was probably one of my favorite episodes so far! This woman is AMAZING and I can relate with her mentality so so well! So glad you all had her on your show. I normally don’t comment but I just HAD to! Thank you, ALL of you for what you do!

[@dubious_gal]

Chalene’s Turbo Jam workout DVDs is what initially got me into exercise when I was a teenager. I’m now almost 35 and I still workout regularly and love it. Over the years I moved from heavy cardio to a balance of strength and cardio, but it all started with Chalene’s upbeat and authentic attitude in those freaking DVDs. Amazing.

[@kimr3071]

Love this candid and honest conversation. Came here for Chalene (love her, her podcast, and her outlook) and will stick around for more! You guys are great!

[@maryssaann]

When I first started exercise, I developed orthorexia from pressures of how fitness is perceived today. Now, 7 years and three more kids later, I just want to be strong. Not as concerned with how I look. That’s the piece that needs to be taught to women. Great guest and episode guys!

[@shweird]

This is one of the best fitness interviews I've ever seen. Thank you all for speaking the truth and Shedding light on what fitness Business people have to go through

[@karahjones-de7ih]

I love Chalene and Mind Pump! What an amazing episode. I’m a former turbo kick instructor now turned bodybuilder

[@chalenejohnson]

That’s awesome!

[@karahjones-de7ih]

@@chalenejohnson Also, my twin sister and I read your book PUSH in 2013 and it pushed us to start our own business. 10 years later and we are almost to 10 million in life time sales. I honestly owe this confidence that I had to take such a wild risk to you. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, I truly Love you. (Love ya, mean it!)

[@dannelleswanson7347]

I loved learning more about Chalene. I have done her programs previously so I knew about her but didn’t know her story. Thank you for sharing!

[@nicolehalverson5225]

Oh my gosh this really resonates with me for body image! Down 24 lbs in 2 years but in my head it's not good enough. Why do we do this to ourselves?!?

[@laurieaiello]

I always appreciate how honest you are, Chalene. Great show.

[@jimbyrdiii1503]

I love when I click on a video expecting one or two things and receive so much more. If I could only watch one podcast this year--this is THE ONE! The wealth of information and inspiring stories have surpassed my expectations. THANK YOU! 🙏

[@phyllisdicesare3674]

Amazing episode. I love Chalene and what she stands for. Such a positive light.

[@viktoriamidtmoen7692]

It was wonderful hearing about Charlene and her story, the good and the bad. It is important that we remember that even the people we view as influencers can be under a lot of pressure to look a certain way to sell products. That we understand that and have compassion. She Does sound like a very strong individual who knows how to put in the work! Great episode, looking forward to the next one!

[@ericasnyder5109]

“Hey guys I wanna pop on here real quick because so many of you have been asking” 😂😂😂😂 and this is why I love Chalene. She’s my fitness hero and this interview was so real and refreshing to watch. Thank you for this!!

[@nikishim7428]

Each new episode just keeps bringing me back for more! I was never into listening to podcasts, but this show is truly golden, life changing, and connecting.

[@gfitfitnessstudio]

What a great episode!!!!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@silverpyramid9251]

Wow!!! The revelations! Thank you mind pump for bringing Chalene, great episode....I am one of the women she was talking to through the lens.

[@Amy-Unedited]

This is so helpful. As a group fitness instructor and trainer and weight loss coach… the pressure is real. Imposter syndrome linked in with weight gains… etc And Chalene- as someone who took your instructor trainings through bb, please know you were loved then AND now for your genuineness.

[@jennekleinlein]

I agree! These gentlemen are very authentic and speak the same truth over and over again. I’m a new listener and have been binge watching their videos. My mind is blown at the concept of reverse dieting and strength training…I’m just beginning to live this change and,boy howdy, 😮it works!! I used to do cardio first in order to have the energy to hit it hard before doing strength training…now I’ve flipped it around and already seeing contour changes in my body 💞 And I now have the courage to do deadlifts, squats, etc…and practicing doing them with proper form.

[@aliciaembro4694]

Great sit down! Love Chalene; She’s so real! Her journey has presented challenges but she found ways each time to push through and come out on top🙌

[@dr.dawnhealthypelvis]

She is so authentically herself, great interview. Love listening to her journey!

[@andrapateyfitness]

Love her. She's real, funny, smart and a true role model for women. Thanks for having her on. Now, how about Dr. Stacy Sims? :)

[@beckygoulart3853]

YES! She would be a great guest. I keep looking for her in interviews.

[@Malfono297]

I was just about to get on the train when I saw the notification for an episode. TRAIN RIDE SAVED!

[@irmajuarez3800]

I loved this interview. Please bring her back!!!

[@MindPumpShow]

Might have to

[@nquirico1]

Chalene, I have followed you since TurboJam and I genuinely value the transition you've made to authenticity. Thank you for sharing all this.

[@rmcomeau]

I can’t stop telling folks who are interested in starting to be more healthy about this podcast. So glad I found MindPump . You guys consistently deliver truthful, helpful information that inspire us to improve our health and fitness. Big thank you !

[@amypilot7282]

This was by far my favorite episode!! Love everyones honesty and realness!

[@MindPumpShow]

🖤

[@michellelappin]

Love Chalene. She inspired me (and so many) to turn our ideas into businesses and live authentically. Underneath all the hair extensions, make up, fillers, and nails, she's the real deal. That's unusual. Dolly Parton-like. Love it.

[@chalenejohnson]

This comment might be my all-time favorite…😂😂 you really see me and I’m not mad about it

[@ebrant003]

This was excellent. There were a lot of pieces that punched me in my soul, in a good, relatable way.

[@MindPumpShow]

Really happy to hear that!

[@thatsmywellness8522]

She’s amazing!! What a great episode. Turbo jam got me in to fitness and I’m so happy for it. I love her transparency and realization of the negatives of the fitness industry and her bravery to leave. What a strong woman and happy to have guys like you include women like her in these conversations 👏👏 p.s. during the banging I just picture the clip of Adam busting out of there 😂

[@kelliecook3117]

This is such an interesting and eye opening telling of the behind the scenes story. I was familiar with her work of course but I deeply admire her commitment to the betterment of those who have followed her as she herself leaned and grew. Great interview!

[@MindPumpShow]

Thanks for sharing!

[@GlendaLizMusic]

I follow Charlene since Turbo Fire, 10 yrs ago. She’s so authentic! Love her story and testimony of her life.

[@megan4997]

Chalene is the best ❤ Such a real and genuine person. Thanks for having her on… such a breath of fresh air

[@josephinewang2610]

Best interview I've listened to in awhile. You all were very engaged and I love how transparent and relaxed Chalene was talking through her journey. Really inspiring and great nuggets of wisdom in this episode!

[@emilyb.2176]

I wasn’t sure about this one until I listened. I really admire her and her story. You guys always surprise me and I really enjoyed it! 😊⭐️

[@marthalampropoulou]

Wow Mind Pump did it again! This woman is inspiring ! One interview and it changes your whole mentality! Thank you so much

[@Laura-sx3ju]

YES! Mind Pump and Chalene.... Two of my faves. Both podcasts are entertaining and have plenty of useful takeaways. Time is our most precious resource and it's time well spent.

[@kayjones6498]

Incredible episode! I’ve been a Chalene fan since her BB days and loved this so much!!

[@wiseandfierce]

This was a great podcast. I haven't listened to alot of full podcast from you guys, but I've heard lots of pieces, and I love what you guys do. I also have been a big fan of Chalene Johnson for years too. Hearing how you all have gone through some of the stages to get where you are is very inspiring! Keep up the great work!

[@thesealefamily5825]

Great episode. I know you guys talk about your entrepreneurial endeavors but it is nice to hear others discuss how they got into it and to hear their trials. Also, great to hear those with ADHD succeeding so well. I have a son with ADHD and I worry about his future. People like you and her reiterate what I already know, HE WILL BE GREAT!

[@pattylamp7368]

This was such an awesome interview! It is so interesting to hear Chalene’s story so honest and open. Thank you Mind Pump.

[@jlh5310]

This was my favorite episode ever. I absolutely love Chalene and her honesty. Such an interesting episode!

[@preparetobedazled]

Brilliant interview. Both parties are so authentic and that's what I think people really crave. Had no idea who she was before this video, but now I'm a fan!

[@MichelleDiGiovanni]

Chalene is the BEST. And she introduced me to your podcast, which I love. THIS was a fabulous interview!

[@MindPumpShow]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MeeksLp]

This was so long but so worth listening to.Seriously thought it was just me that stands by the shower looking for the perfect you tube video to listen to for the 5 minutes I’m showering 😂😂

[@jackiewatsonfitness3695]

I have loved Chalene for years! I got certified in Turbokick before they sold it and taught it for years. It was always a class favorite!

[@MindPumpShow]

That is awesome!

[@donnaversace3917]

What a great episode, so many great topics, and great conversation all around! I never listen to long episodes, but was totally engaged, Chalene’s story is so interesting.

[@julielyons3899]

I love this. Used to workout to Chalene’s beach body videos. I was so grateful when she shifted gears and explained that she was not working out 30 min a day to look how she looked. I loved the authenticity so much more than the sales pitch.

[@scottbennett3765]

It’s always a good time when it’s Mind Pump time baby!!! Let’s go! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@MindPumpShow]

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[@Feliagio]

I love Chalene ! She is my top fitness guru!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@lonetabordas9902]

Having Chalene in your show was amazing. I'm a very big fan of her. I did many of her workouts as I was a Beachbody fanatic. Since I've started Maps programs last year in June, I questioned the amount of work I'd have to do and almost always I ended up adding and doing more. This morning while working out I told myself that I should stick to what's written cause these guys are genuine. They have Chalene on the show!!!!❤ Great episode! Thanks.

[@SarahMast-lt9qx]

Wow! Best podcast ever...it means alot you guys keeping it real.

[@MindPumpShow]

Always!

[@nataliewilliams3390]

Commenting from the tip of South Africa in Cape Town!😅 What a great interview - I've loved and followed, then unfollowed, then re-followed Charlene since Turbo Kick days - i was just teenager desperate to be small so I got sucked all the way in so its really validating to learn about her journey. I've learned so much and now i just love to work on my overall health - i just want to feel strong and capable. You're all so inspiring for spreading the message of what really health truly is❤

[@mirianinoa1964]

Such an amazing interview. She is amazing ! It was so awesome to hear her story!.

[@colleenanderson4368]

Chalene is absolutely amazing!!! So real !! And yes, we do trust you Chalene!!! ❤❤❤ And now I have another KZbin subscription!! Great guys!!! First time listener!

[@MindPumpShow]

Thanks for subbing!

[@InspiredByCreation]

Such a nice surprise to see Chalene on Mind Pump and hear her story! Turbo Jam my favorite back in the day...I feel like I bumped into an old friend, lol. Chalene, despite the negative parts during that time period, know there were plenty of people who were positively influenced by you. I love the authenticity of Mind Pump...Thanks guys, for another great show!

[@melissachugg5160]

So great to hear from Charlene she is such an inspiration! What an incredible journey thanks 😊

[@MindPumpShow]

It really is!

[@nicholasingratta423]

This is great no one in the industry ever comes out as honest as this lady wonderful episode

[@iss8504]

Chalene, I am an entrepreneur and I work with startups almost exclusively. I am not a business mentor or trainer but have slowly become one to my clients because they are so clueless. The idea of balance is a later thing...not the startup phase. I have yet to see one succeed who starts with the work life balance. I have founders sleeping on their couches at the office right now. You are talking several years in, maybe 5. When i think about the advice applying after year 5, yes, spot on. But before that...idk. You need a certain cushion of cash too before you can walk away from opportunities, but u r right, must assess which opportunities are right. The work life advice is pre first million or pre steady income where you can affors to walk away from opportunities. It isn't always apparent as to what is the right or wrong opportunity esp if you are trying to disrupt industry standards. Mad respect for all of you. I think Mind Pump is a fantastic brand. Pure genius guys.

[@HulaGirl08]

Wow! Great conversation!! TurboKick changed my life and I miss it so much. Loved hearing more about Chalene’s journey and her thoughts on a wide array of topics. Well done!

[@alefept]

The comment about needing something to listen to in the shower. 😂 That’s me too. I listen to podcasts constantly throughout the day…cleaning, working out, cooking, showering/getting ready…

[@darlenewalsh8171]

I was looking forward to this ever since Chalene mentioned she was doing it !!! My 2 favorite podcast channels !!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Ishy33]

Amazing episode, so much to extract from this. You guys killed it with having Chalene on the show.

[@localnoonenterprises]

I love the theme here about seeing and helping the person vs seeing and fixing a problem.

[@alexaj694]

Great show and authentic conversation, thanks for including us!! As an entrepreneur I wish I did what I did best and let others do the rest…I wasted a lot of time and energy trying to do it all thinking my way was the only way…

[@amandanardiello1905]

I listen to both podcasts so this was a great combo! Great to hear a little more Justin as well!

[@mariaemiliavidal3402]

I love love this interview!! Amazing conversation. Charlene you are amazing, thank you for sharing.

[@MindPumpShow]

Thanks for listening!

[@beckyzronek3794]

Love Chalene, such a great interview!!

[@MindPumpShow]

👍

[@AlessiaDonatocoaching]

Chalean extreme kicked off my love for weightlifting. That program was amazing and so was turbofire!

[@Krysb107]

I’m cracking up listening to the construction next door because y’all talked about about it previously 🤣😬 Great episode per usual. Love Chalene

[@MindPumpShow]

So annoyed lol

[@dinapayne7743]

This is probably the best interview I have ever watched! You guys were amazing and Charlene was amazing! Charlene has lived so much and such an inspiration! Thank you all! No other combo of people in this interview would have had the WOW factor you all pulled off!

[@ambercollinsfitness]

I remember doing some of Chalene’s videos when I was 16-17ish (almost 31 now) It’s so cool to see how much her mindset has evolved since then and for her to then share all that insight and be so candid about it all… pure gold. As far as her comment about social media turning in to people only posting voice over-pointing videos. *That* is one of the main reasons I deleted the apps off my phone. Nothing about that is entertaining or interesting to me, and that’s all I was ever seeing anymore. Waste of time 👊🏻

[@jamiehindman935]

Fantastic episode! Thank you Chalene for sharing so much ❤

[@MindPumpShow]

🙏🏻